omg, idk how many people finished this game and the only thing they get out of is just "racism is bad" and thats it. The whole message of the game is not about racism, at all. Its all about finding strength to overcome your fear and anxiety and fantasy has the ability to change reality if people are determined enough. And racism is just a tool to strengthen this message. Racism has 2 implications, 1 is to fortify those who is in power by brainwashing other races to make them think they are inferior. 2 is about fear the unknown, seeing a new races that completely novel to peoples lives obviously make them scared and xenophobic, and this is exactly what happened in later part of the game, which lead back to the core message that the game is trying to tell. Facing your fear and anxiety to learn and accept about new races, while having a fantasy about the world where no Sanctist church brainwashing people to stabilize their standing, no strong bully the weak is the FIRST step to deal with racism. Even summoning Archetype is also related to the theme of the game. The act of ripping out one heart is a metaphor for the person overcome their fear and anxiety residing within their heart, and become braver, a better version of themself. The description of Archetype in the memorandum is "the manisfestation of an idealized version of oneself that was materialized by magla", in other word, a fantasy about themself. And during the part that More reveal Tokyo to the main character and called it "the real world". Its just a fake world made by More to convinced his son to not go through the same pain he went through. But Gallica's music magic proved this wrong, and the main character realized that "the real world" More claims to be real are fake, and his world is actually still the real one. The game really shown you about each of every characters struggle with not just reality, but their fantasy as well. The last king abandoned his fantasy as More and trapped him inside Akademia because it was too hard for him too endure, he knew that he could never bring his fantasy into reality. Sometimes fantasy can be like a prison more than salvation. But if only you have a strong will like the main character, never lose sight of his goals, and powerful enough to bring his ideas into real life. Only then fantasy can become something more than just fiction. I think that this game really don't need an ending like nier automata, its perfect as it is. And i personally thinks that this game messages are way more powerful than nier's .
I totally can see it this way! I do remember a lot of the context with magic itself being around overcoming anxiety and fear. I just feel like that point gets very overshadowed. Most if not all the conflict from the game comes from the differences between the tribes. As much as the game is about anxiety and overcoming it, its just as much or even more so about unity. The party being from each tribe solidifies it. Louis's vengeance, Fordan's motivation, Catherine's directive, Heismay's isolation, each character I feel has some part of backstory with how they were treated because of their tribal background. I agree, I think the message is perfect I just wish it was harder hitting. Like I was saying with Nier or Edgerunners those games made me cry, this one was more light hearted but this part is more opinion then anything.
@@Aqua-Wavez every single characters stories is all about “fantasizing about a better world”. Louis want a world where people can face their own anxiety and stop being so ignorant that what tragedies like his hometown not gonna happen anymore, Fordan want he become a king himself and to stand above others, Catherine want a world where her tribes can have a better lives and do whatever their want without being treated badly, Heismay want a better world where every children can have a happy life and not ended up like his son, Strohl want a place for his townfolk could live savely and not being attacked by humans again and Basilio dreamt of a world no strong bully the weak, ect… Its all return back to the main theme of the game which about fantasies are not just lofty dreams but can change the world for the better.
@@Aqua-Wavez i guess tragic stories are more impactful, but happy end is way more fitting for this game. Its like saying “these characters can do it and so do you” to the players.
You got it backwards at the end when More reveals the IRL “real world.” It’s a deception, a fantasy based on his novel of the past. He uses a projection of his fantasy, which is our real world, to try and convince the prince to stay alive there and escape. The “real world” in the game is the actual world we’ve been experiencing the entire time.
“Speaking your heart out” is to share your deepest feelings or thoughts to someone. It’s quite literally each character telling the world what they have to say.
If you like more lore about the city of shinjuku. Play Etrian oddesey. It will have lore about the last effort humanity did to save their civilization against the said Pollution, which is Magla.
I feel like yes the story can be a little extra on the prejudice front, but the story is told with so much less *cringe* than Atlus’s last games. Like everything is just so much more well written
Game definitely feels unfinished. The first half is so strong and then shit just drops right off. Even the whole Bosch meets Berserk aesthetics just disappears.
I thought the game would take place in the human world not it have been ended atleast they stuck to the human thing but it felt very shirt as said like this world was born based from are modern society but we still in a clockpunk world like its the middle ages no cell phone or cars, clothes(still very middle evil), not even in architecture it felt like they abandoned the idea and put it in last minute I know "society" is gone but these are very hard hitting mementos tho
Actually most of the fashion in the game is inspired by the 1960s fashion trends, mixed with a bit of Victorian/Edwardian fashion from the 19th century. It’s not medieval at all. One of the more interesting and refreshing aspects of the art direction in this game. As for why there aren’t more aspects of the “modern” world…it’s essentially a post-apocalyptic world. Everything was destroyed. It’s a pretty common trope, honestly, in both science fiction and fantasy. Plenty of fantasy turns out to actually be science fiction. I’ve been reading sci-fi and fantasy for 50 years now, and playing video games for more than 40 years-so I’ve seen it a lot.
@wisemoon40 ig but not even like anything 1960s is kinda far from modern and the existence of eldas and "humans" should mean that the war wasn't as destructive and even the other tribes are decedent's of humans and through all their years no archeology like in splatoon were they found a human skeleton with a wii console like in their humanity was gone all be it in a different way but still apocalyptic but there were records like mammoth and dinosaurs they're should be fossils or ruins of citys their was none of that here like nobody knows at all besides the Elda cause they were victims of the war but the bone I'm picking isn't the premise but how they showed it like ig by the end of the game the existence of humans starts to unravel but you would think of like even small things like a text book or a tire or something but nope just ruins nothing greater all the rich people, celebrities, world leaders all bite the dust Idk but if they make a sequel they should actually explore this it would be cool though have the thing of humans gets destroyed and replaced but not completely erased is neat idea to explore no?
The weakest and most disappointing part of the story is main villain. Louis motivation has no sense at all and his plans are extremely risky and dumb as hell. At least his design and dialogs are cool.
His motivation made sense to me, people in power failed and the people under that power also failed by not tearing down the government that oppressed them. He feels the world is too far gone and needs to provoke a change but the only option available to him was to do that on a cataclysmic scale.
This game was mediocre at best, Lious just became a generic anime villian. In his world he just want the strong to survive, and the party's is the polar opposite. The party just became generic anime crap. Oh we love and accept everybody, with friend ship we can conquer all. There is no issue to small for use to resolve with the power of friendship and kindness.........so disappointed considering how strong the first few chapter's were.
Story was trash and has too many branching paths that were unnecessary. Teenage anime kids will love it and experienced ones will still need something deeper.
omg, idk how many people finished this game and the only thing they get out of is just "racism is bad" and thats it. The whole message of the game is not about racism, at all. Its all about finding strength to overcome your fear and anxiety and fantasy has the ability to change reality if people are determined enough. And racism is just a tool to strengthen this message. Racism has 2 implications, 1 is to fortify those who is in power by brainwashing other races to make them think they are inferior. 2 is about fear the unknown, seeing a new races that completely novel to peoples lives obviously make them scared and xenophobic, and this is exactly what happened in later part of the game, which lead back to the core message that the game is trying to tell. Facing your fear and anxiety to learn and accept about new races, while having a fantasy about the world where no Sanctist church brainwashing people to stabilize their standing, no strong bully the weak is the FIRST step to deal with racism. Even summoning Archetype is also related to the theme of the game. The act of ripping out one heart is a metaphor for the person overcome their fear and anxiety residing within their heart, and become braver, a better version of themself. The description of Archetype in the memorandum is "the manisfestation of an idealized version of oneself that was materialized by magla", in other word, a fantasy about themself. And during the part that More reveal Tokyo to the main character and called it "the real world". Its just a fake world made by More to convinced his son to not go through the same pain he went through. But Gallica's music magic proved this wrong, and the main character realized that "the real world" More claims to be real are fake, and his world is actually still the real one. The game really shown you about each of every characters struggle with not just reality, but their fantasy as well. The last king abandoned his fantasy as More and trapped him inside Akademia because it was too hard for him too endure, he knew that he could never bring his fantasy into reality. Sometimes fantasy can be like a prison more than salvation. But if only you have a strong will like the main character, never lose sight of his goals, and powerful enough to bring his ideas into real life. Only then fantasy can become something more than just fiction. I think that this game really don't need an ending like nier automata, its perfect as it is. And i personally thinks that this game messages are way more powerful than nier's .
I totally can see it this way! I do remember a lot of the context with magic itself being around overcoming anxiety and fear. I just feel like that point gets very overshadowed. Most if not all the conflict from the game comes from the differences between the tribes. As much as the game is about anxiety and overcoming it, its just as much or even more so about unity. The party being from each tribe solidifies it. Louis's vengeance, Fordan's motivation, Catherine's directive, Heismay's isolation, each character I feel has some part of backstory with how they were treated because of their tribal background. I agree, I think the message is perfect I just wish it was harder hitting. Like I was saying with Nier or Edgerunners those games made me cry, this one was more light hearted but this part is more opinion then anything.
@@Aqua-Wavez every single characters stories is all about “fantasizing about a better world”. Louis want a world where people can face their own anxiety and stop being so ignorant that what tragedies like his hometown not gonna happen anymore, Fordan want he become a king himself and to stand above others, Catherine want a world where her tribes can have a better lives and do whatever their want without being treated badly, Heismay want a better world where every children can have a happy life and not ended up like his son, Strohl want a place for his townfolk could live savely and not being attacked by humans again and Basilio dreamt of a world no strong bully the weak, ect… Its all return back to the main theme of the game which about fantasies are not just lofty dreams but can change the world for the better.
@@Aqua-Wavez i guess tragic stories are more impactful, but happy end is way more fitting for this game. Its like saying “these characters can do it and so do you” to the players.
That and racism is bad
It’s because they hit you over the head with it in the beginning using elementary methods
You got it backwards at the end when More reveals the IRL “real world.” It’s a deception, a fantasy based on his novel of the past. He uses a projection of his fantasy, which is our real world, to try and convince the prince to stay alive there and escape. The “real world” in the game is the actual world we’ve been experiencing the entire time.
“Speaking your heart out” is to share your deepest feelings or thoughts to someone. It’s quite literally each character telling the world what they have to say.
Just a heads up the next time you make an analysis video, people are here for the analysis. There's a 4-1 ratio of story recap to your thoughts here.
Came to the comments to say this
If you like more lore about the city of shinjuku.
Play Etrian oddesey. It will have lore about the last effort humanity did to save their civilization against the said Pollution, which is Magla.
This is true, tho the games are not likely to canon to eachother
Lol the “take punishment” option increases your endurance by 5 😂 so it’s hilarious, but that’s *why* it’s an option
my dude Glodell can't catch a break he got completely ignored in the retrospective hahahahah
LOL, wellllllllll you knowwww. Can ya blame mee
Kinda feel bad for him and Zorba tho…both have cutting edge fashion sense that slays but are tossed aside by Louis and beaten by the MC. Sad.
I feel like yes the story can be a little extra on the prejudice front, but the story is told with so much less *cringe* than Atlus’s last games. Like everything is just so much more well written
Game definitely feels unfinished. The first half is so strong and then shit just drops right off. Even the whole Bosch meets Berserk aesthetics just disappears.
literally wish we saw more from the other tribes too, also like NO OUTFITS
literally
You want them naked or what?
YAYYY I LOVE YOU AQUA
Thanks, I was looking everywhere for a summary of the story
Brandon? Lol
Cute little rat guy?
I thought the game would take place in the human world not it have been ended atleast they stuck to the human thing but it felt very shirt as said like this world was born based from are modern society but we still in a clockpunk world like its the middle ages no cell phone or cars, clothes(still very middle evil), not even in architecture it felt like they abandoned the idea and put it in last minute I know "society" is gone but these are very hard hitting mementos tho
yeah thats a part of how i felt too
Actually most of the fashion in the game is inspired by the 1960s fashion trends, mixed with a bit of Victorian/Edwardian fashion from the 19th century. It’s not medieval at all. One of the more interesting and refreshing aspects of the art direction in this game. As for why there aren’t more aspects of the “modern” world…it’s essentially a post-apocalyptic world. Everything was destroyed. It’s a pretty common trope, honestly, in both science fiction and fantasy. Plenty of fantasy turns out to actually be science fiction. I’ve been reading sci-fi and fantasy for 50 years now, and playing video games for more than 40 years-so I’ve seen it a lot.
@wisemoon40 ig but not even like anything 1960s is kinda far from modern and the existence of eldas and "humans" should mean that the war wasn't as destructive and even the other tribes are decedent's of humans and through all their years no archeology
like in splatoon were they found a human skeleton with a wii console like in their humanity was gone all be it in a different way but still apocalyptic but there were records like mammoth and dinosaurs they're should be fossils or ruins of citys their was none of that here like nobody knows at all
besides the Elda cause they were victims of the war but the bone I'm picking isn't the premise but how they showed it like ig by the end of the game the existence of humans starts to unravel
but you would think of like even small things like a text book or a tire or something but nope just ruins nothing greater all the rich people, celebrities, world leaders all bite the dust
Idk but if they make a sequel they should actually explore this it would be cool though have the thing of humans gets destroyed and replaced but not completely erased is neat idea to explore no?
The weakest and most disappointing part of the story is main villain. Louis motivation has no sense at all and his plans are extremely risky and dumb as hell. At least his design and dialogs are cool.
His motivation made sense to me, people in power failed and the people under that power also failed by not tearing down the government that oppressed them. He feels the world is too far gone and needs to provoke a change but the only option available to him was to do that on a cataclysmic scale.
@ReelistStudios how will that make the situation better?
@jarosawbielec3141 Weaklinks would be all but removed from the world. A new species of man would be created without their shortcomings
comprehension skill issue@jarosawbielec3141
@@jarosawbielec3141he not interested in improvement he's interested in punishment.
The story sucks, the Monarchists won lol
Gameplay was great story was just OK. I kept rolling my eyes at the ending. It just kept dragging on like return of the king the film.
This game was mediocre at best, Lious just became a generic anime villian. In his world he just want the strong to survive, and the party's is the polar opposite. The party just became generic anime crap. Oh we love and accept everybody, with friend ship we can conquer all. There is no issue to small for use to resolve with the power of friendship and kindness.........so disappointed considering how strong the first few chapter's were.
... This is a depressing analysis. Media literacy is dead.
bro never got the message 😢
Story was trash and has too many branching paths that were unnecessary. Teenage anime kids will love it and experienced ones will still need something deeper.
New most pretentious youtube comment just dropped. Seriously fine if you don't like it but why the condescension.
Did you come here from R/Atlus?
You’re like the JRPG equivalent of a toxic, Rick and Morty fan.