Golden Pyro used to be my main guy for early game back in 2020 when he didn't get nerfed and had the double flamethrowers at level 5. He was great, arguably on par with Golden Scout.
It makes sense that it struggles with single targets pyro is meant to be a support tower not a main dps tower. its good for crowd control and the fallen guarding would be way easier for it to beat coz of the defense melting
I'm actually really happy with this buff. That's because as a low level I thought he was the best pre-buff (just because of the damage) but I never really knew it sped up bosses so this buff is prob the best buff in ages.
this tower used to be so bad lol but the fact my friend is actually hoping to get it I was worried for his mental health because I didn’t know about the change
The regular pyro still needs a buff. Defense dropping is too niche of an ability to offset lower dps. I have an idea for a different support function. Instead of def reduction, pyro would make enemies more vulnerable to damage. It's like the heat from the flames softens the shell of the enemies, and potentially turns the flesh into goop. Each tick could make damage dealt to that enemy increase by 4 or 5% (maximum of 25%).
@coolboy34 fan cause most people use fast firing towers with average damage and cause of the defense the dps is heavily decreased cause of the defenense
John I was thinking of a new tower called magnetier at first it pulls back enemies 5 studs every 4 seconds and it has 4 upgrades its a support tower at lvl 2 fast pull 3.5 attack speed then 3rd level it pulls enemies back 10 studs but only fast enemy's then at max it can pull small bosses every other thing acept final wave boss and cost 60k coins because I think it would be op
John was complaining about not being able to use a different skin and still get golden buffs, and now his wish has been granted. Yet John still uses the Golden skin for pyro, rather than hazmat or acidic. I guess he changed his mind, and decided that golden skins look great.
@@0ok02ThePerson no. Kasodus cowboy works properly. What I don't like is how most skins that got a different weapon now use the same weapon as the default skin. Partisan Ranger used to have a musket. Redemption cowboy used to wield a Winchester Rifle.
gold mini doesn't have a placement limit but ur gonnaneed to spend a lot more than accels to get the same dps output and also gpyro has to have you skip before getting it so its a lot worse for speedruns
John:the golden pyro only does one damage at base level but the reason it kills these abnormals so quickly is its fire rate. Pyro's burn damage:am I a joke to you?
pyro use to be trash one time. But now its basically good since golden perks came. Basically old pyro might be better then this golden perk pyro, basically im talking about the old tds and in the updates the pyro speed got 15% (or gone) and this would be very usefull. Pyro is A great tower and a decent one, Not only his golden perks it gives him HD POV: the hiddens are thinking pyro dont have HD....
Old time: pyro speed up enemy and had worst DPS also can’t destroy the entire crowd New time: pyro destroy entire crowd and deal some damage to enemy giving tower a good time to kill also LITERALLY DESTROY TANK WHEN SPAMMED
2021 before frost invasion : omg pyro and gold pyro is so trash 2021 after frost invasion : bruh pyro and gold pyro still trash but kinda useful in event 2022 : *finally the devs heard our prayers*
I think below is trying to buff the worst towers like what he did with the militant and pyro maybe he will do freezer next but then he would nerf all the good towers lol
@@insertpng6289 I think that would be on the lowest priority, cus there's only a certain amount of people got that. The others are on the shop, which is available for free.
@@0ok02ThePerson except that there are more event badges than the average amount of people playing tds, and buffing event towers would keep the people who would most likely spend robux playing
@@0ok02ThePerson which results in hate, leading to players who played the game for a while (and most likely spend money) to quit the game for a period of time. Plus we haven’t gotten a rework for event towers since overhaul, the rest is just nerfs, nothing that’ll bring players back
If u want to actually win on fallen with this many pyros,go in the 6 people games and make sure all ur temamtes have Commander and golden pyro and u should get about the same amount John did at the end
John I propose to you an idea, the helicopter tower has an ability that can be used to carry troops around the map without selling and replacing them. Helicopter can be upgraded to increase the amount of weight the helicopter can carry.
Pyro alone can only lower a enemies defense by 20% But if you have more than one down upgraded to the max like for Pyros to fall in hero you can reduce it’s different from 80% to 40%
My coins is 17000, i dont have any golden skins, but i hope i will get golden pyro for hardcore, and golden scout for polluted wasteland, in the old that two is the most unwanted skin right?
Golden pyromancer is now way more better than warden but warden still my favourite the thing is warden cannot kill the the fallen king yet cause of his range but does lots of damage and dps so golden pyromancer buff is good 💪
ok but community overrates it way much if it can solo fallen it doesn't mean it's instantly the best tower hc and events exist anyway and normal pyro is still bs
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Golden Pyro used to be my main guy for early game back in 2020 when he didn't get nerfed and had the double flamethrowers at level 5. He was great, arguably on par with Golden Scout.
The double flamethrowers , I remember that in 2020
Sorry bro, your comments stealed by a bot
I miss good old pyro
Level 1 Pyro does 1 damage but is shredding your health IS THAT SANS
Double flamethrowers, because the devs were about as stupid back then as the community is nowadays.
It makes sense that it struggles with single targets pyro is meant to be a support tower not a main dps tower. its good for crowd control and the fallen guarding would be way easier for it to beat coz of the defense melting
Thats why im a pyro user boi
Im a minigunner spammer boi
pyro isnt a support tower??
@@Mythril64 it is
Debuff by slowing enemies/burning defense counts as support since it struggles against bosses or high hp targets
Yep
3:45 bro turned into a paper shredder 💀💀💀💀
fr
4:37 All molten-based enemies are immune to burn damage. The pyro can still damage the Molten Boss through its normal damage (not burn).
yeah that's an L
The reason it deals so much dmg at lv 0 is because there is also the tick dmg (burn) pairing along side the 4 dps
And pierce effect
(so in a scenario with single target it wouldn't do well)
@@oneup117gaming4 exactly, because pyromancer can hit up to multiple enemies without losing any damage. which makes it exceptionally good
ofc DoT
I'm actually really happy with this buff. That's because as a low level I thought he was the best pre-buff (just because of the damage) but I never really knew it sped up bosses so this buff is prob the best buff in ages.
@coolboy34 fan Replaced gold pyro with my gold crook boss. Was not dissapointed.
@coolboy34 fan Golden Pyro And accelerator never bad :)
@coolboy34 fan nah you suck
@coolboy34fan84hardcore am I a joke to u?
this tower used to be so bad lol but the fact my friend is actually hoping to get it I was worried for his mental health because I didn’t know about the change
Lol
The regular pyro still needs a buff. Defense dropping is too niche of an ability to offset lower dps.
I have an idea for a different support function. Instead of def reduction, pyro would make enemies more vulnerable to damage. It's like the heat from the flames softens the shell of the enemies, and potentially turns the flesh into goop. Each tick could make damage dealt to that enemy increase by 4 or 5% (maximum of 25%).
true. It’s unfair if the golden and “rich ones” get the buffs while other players dont
@@Thecanadian_map I mean for the people with golden skins, they could have grinded alot and got the golden skins
If this would happen look at mini and accel doing this maybe glad
@@sentarator yeah maybe
it's a cheap tower that isnt meant to be good, the golden skin "enhances" the tower making it better
What's makes pyro better is the fact it can decrease tanky zombies defense and it's aoe damage makes it better
@coolboy34 fan yeah bro like zombies w/ defense aren't that hard
@coolboy34 fan cause most people use fast firing towers with average damage and cause of the defense the dps is heavily decreased cause of the defenense
it's amazing to see such a bad tower that everyone would put on F tier in tier lists beat the fallen king
Tower limit exists on this game
RoF bug exist
@@benedictcorpuz5582 it was already fixed
@@nobloopers1108 okay
3:45 best audio I've heard all day XD
Just wait for the golden tower nerf. The big change is that the skins are just flex’s and not upgrades
This was a joke lol
golden mini:
No you
NOOOOOO
agreed 👹
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Love your vids john keep up the work my guy cant wait for TDX Keep up the work once again :)
Ye he da best tds UA-camr
John Roblox: "Guys we're gonna win, look how much damage he's doing-"
Tanks: *Enters*
Also John Roblox: *Demonic screeching*
paper shredder
@@omorisballs lol
3:46 someday that screech will be iconic
I love how John does this knowing no one else can do admin commands.
he is not only one
with commands
yeah it's really dumb how he says gpyro is op when it's far from it
Video idea:make an accel army line how you did with pryo and than spawn void reaver see what happens
when pyro becomes an arsonist to commit several war crimes
war crime jokes again lol
german ww1 skin when
@@200iqdumbass7 hell fighter skin
Gilded arsonist
Idk what it means but it’s an upgrade name
3:36
The new meta for grinding fallen, take notes
bro stfu ur literally 100x better off spending all of that money on accels rather than gpyro
Technically speaking, level 1 golden pyro does 4 damage a second. No bad for early placement, with the beginning HD too.
@coolboy34 fan nah
@coolboy34 fan from what i know its 2nd or 3rd best g skin, also if you want the worst gold skin look at g soldier
The molten boss doesn’t get damaged by fire but the gold pyro also has normal dps that’s why the fallen king got damaged more if you noticed.
Golden crook: I’m cool
Golden mini: pathetic
Golden pyro: amateurs
Golden mini: your bad
Golden pyro buff: 100000000000000
Golden mini: WHAT THE F-
g.cowboy: still trash kid
cringe
Congrats On one MILLION!!!
ps. fellow phantom forces gamer and im on xbox and i have got a 1100 meter sniper shot
Now, all we need is freezer, then we are complete.
Yes
Paintballer, demoman, shredder :
How about the expensive explosion towers
Rocketeer?
I really think you're forgetting that commando, paintballer, shredder, rocketeer and demoman exist.
3:45 MAN LITERALLY BECAME THE RAKE IM DYING BRO ✋✋💀
Or just any EEEAAAA-
John I was thinking of a new tower called magnetier at first it pulls back enemies 5 studs every 4 seconds and it has 4 upgrades its a support tower at lvl 2 fast pull 3.5 attack speed then 3rd level it pulls enemies back 10 studs but only fast enemy's then at max it can pull small bosses every other thing acept final wave boss and cost 60k coins because I think it would be op
Isn't that just freezer but a lot better
Can you make a video about spamming rocketteers like you did with the Golden pyros or freezers
John was complaining about not being able to use a different skin and still get golden buffs, and now his wish has been granted. Yet John still uses the Golden skin for pyro, rather than hazmat or acidic. I guess he changed his mind, and decided that golden skins look great.
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There aren't any good skins for the pyro except the golden one.
@@breadbake7543 Yes. The devs did ruin Hazmat pyro. It used to shoot green flames and had more details on the armor.
Remember Kasodus Cowboy? That skin's broken now. I really want the devs to fix the old skins tbh.
@@0ok02ThePerson no. Kasodus cowboy works properly.
What I don't like is how most skins that got a different weapon now use the same weapon as the default skin. Partisan Ranger used to have a musket. Redemption cowboy used to wield a Winchester Rifle.
Don’t forget the gladiator, that crap was horrible back in 2019
Before pyro starts with 0 dmg so at lvl 0 he need to depend of fire dmg and you need to upgrade it to lvl 2 to actually do 1 dmg
Shut up he ate a cheese burger with 10 party's and you have your face as your pfp
g.pyro has 1 damage at level 0 and on level 2 it gets 2 damage
This was changed tho?, Pretty sure he now does 1 dmg at lv0 instead.
@@astro-naut2567 i said that
Dude it sounds like he's thinking inside of his head the entire time because of the echo.
I’m so glad it good john when I got it I was like emotional damage because it was very bad but now it kinda good
3:44 new sound effect
Gold pyro + gold mini is on par with glad + accel (for solo fallen) in my opinion, arguably better for lazy people like me.
Gold cowboy accel
Nah bro dont need accel bc i win solo Fallen with Gold pyro and mini (and some support tower)
@@tololrblx gold cowboy can also win
gold mini doesn't have a placement limit but ur gonnaneed to spend a lot more than accels to get the same dps output and also gpyro has to have you skip before getting it so its a lot worse for speedruns
do you have a idea when tdx come out i cant wait for it
Pyro definitely had a gigachad transformation
Hey john when tdx cames out can you do more farm skins
Below should make a admin command that makes you able to place cliff towers on the ground
the mona lisa herself plays tds
@@jinxed-truly yaa
@@jinxed-truly imagine having 50 rangers on the ground
@@jinxed-truly or 50 mortars
@@monalisa0792w frr
thank you for making vids and makes me happy so i wont think about my cat that died this morning thank you :) :(
John:the golden pyro only does one damage at base level but the reason it kills these abnormals so quickly is its fire rate.
Pyro's burn damage:am I a joke to you?
3:42
John: Guys we’re gonna win look how much damage it’s doing
John when he loses: eeeeeeeeAAA-
Lol😂
pyro use to be trash one time. But now its basically good since golden perks came. Basically old pyro might be better then this golden perk pyro, basically im talking about the old tds and in the updates the pyro speed got 15% (or gone) and this would be very usefull. Pyro is A great tower and a decent one, Not only his golden perks it gives him HD POV: the hiddens are thinking pyro dont have HD....
3:45 YEEEEEEEEAA
The tower really good for early defense
But on mid game it just not perform
Mid game still does decent, late game is a struggle but i mean it's a support/offense and not full offense
@@IShowBallsack up
Mid game is ehhhhhhhhh ur better off getting other towers like accel and late game it does literally no damage
John is the video sped up? Cuz it looks like it
How do you have a square instead of circle under tower?
(The glow)
If you turn your graphics higher. It would change the blue square thing into circle
I was also interested by this. I thought that he had a 7,000 dollar PC or something. It doesn't really matter, still a great video.
@@CaffeinatedCrusader well cause in previous videos he went all the waaaaay down to fps in the single digits cause of tons of enemies and tower
3:45 what was that sound john?
We should not talk about how op this tower is or below will nerf it to the ground it make it even worst
nah he wont
@@unixwastaken let see
BFB 4 screech???!?!?!?!?!?!?! 3:45
Is no one gonna talk about how fast those fallen guardians died?
fr, i think the fire bypasses armour
@@200iqdumbass7 the fire melts defenses also, so yea
"I fear no man. But that thing, it scares me"
Minigunner, talking about pyro
why does it sound like you are in a room with nothing in it.
he has a new house
Old time: pyro speed up enemy and had worst DPS also can’t destroy the entire crowd
New time: pyro destroy entire crowd and deal some damage to enemy giving tower a good time to kill also LITERALLY DESTROY TANK WHEN SPAMMED
Golden pryo is better then regular one guys you have to believe me! It’s better!
2021
Pyromancer : BRUH I SUCK
2022
Pyromancer : I am god
Fun fact: You can solo fallen with (gold pyro, accelerator, farm, commander, dj.)
@☭ bob You don't need to win hardcore to get accel tho
@☭ bob amosus
@@0ok02ThePerson mogus
2021 before frost invasion : omg pyro and gold pyro is so trash
2021 after frost invasion : bruh pyro and gold pyro still trash but kinda useful in event
2022 : *finally the devs heard our prayers*
pyro used to do 0 damage and only did afterburn damage until like level 3
*now it is a registered arsonist and on the FBI's most wanted list*
Pyro TF2
Your voice is being echoed btw where were you to do that voice changer lol
Imagine if below added the no space for every tower (the red box that shows how much space it takes) as a command. That would be too op lol
I think below is trying to buff the worst towers like what he did with the militant and pyro maybe he will do freezer next but then he would nerf all the good towers lol
Yet event towers are still dogwater
@@insertpng6289 I think that would be on the lowest priority, cus there's only a certain amount of people got that. The others are on the shop, which is available for free.
@@0ok02ThePerson except that there are more event badges than the average amount of people playing tds, and buffing event towers would keep the people who would most likely spend robux playing
@@insertpng6289 then that leads to another way then. They will rework the towers that will go on sale. The priorities stay the same
@@0ok02ThePerson which results in hate, leading to players who played the game for a while (and most likely spend money) to quit the game for a period of time. Plus we haven’t gotten a rework for event towers since overhaul, the rest is just nerfs, nothing that’ll bring players back
pro
You first and you pro :D
@@vallikescrackers-28 You first and you cringe :D
i get why it used to make the enemies faster, if you were on fire would you start running? probably
frrr💀
3:44 best part
If u want to actually win on fallen with this many pyros,go in the 6 people games and make sure all ur temamtes have Commander and golden pyro and u should get about the same amount John did at the end
its speeds up because when ur on fire u get burned and run around super fast, like me (unless ur weird)
Can u just do the other towers like the gold mini nerf and others buffs and nerfs??
I swear to God the tds community is gonna beg for this to be nerfed cuz and I quote "TOO OPPPPP"
You can actually beat the fallen king with only g pyro and support and ranger , and if u want u can use medic instead of farm
i mean ranger is a strong tower
7:17 why did john turn into kermit XD
John I propose to you an idea, the helicopter tower has an ability that can be used to carry troops around the map without selling and replacing them. Helicopter can be upgraded to increase the amount of weight the helicopter can carry.
Nah bro that sucks
3:46 average scout spammer
John: flam thrower
Me: you had one job and that job was to say flam thrower correctly... oh sh-
Pyro alone can only lower a enemies defense by 20% But if you have more than one down upgraded to the max like for Pyros to fall in hero you can reduce it’s different from 80% to 40%
You still need only one though, its ability is to drop defenses down by halve
@@0ok02ThePerson it only 1 Pyro drops def by 20% 2 40% so you really only need 2
@@designation_n8139 No? Read the wiki, a single Pyro drops enemies' defenses by halve, plus, the ability doesn't stack.
Man i love your content, it makes my day when you upload
1:45 well I agree with the speed up do with the pyro BC it real logic that ppl do run if they got on fire
well, zombie don't have thing that make them feel pain so they won't feel anything,it make no sense
@@Asm0sday then still, imagine if they got so burnt up, their weight reduced. That might be the best explanation
"Tds player bully pyromancer, what below do next is shocking"
5:43 rip that one pyromancer level 0 near the cliff
John why is there an echo in your mic lol
“The min8 would struggle tho and the pyro wouldn’t”
*10 seconds later*
“The pyro sucks now and the mini won’t struggle on it”
gold pyro it did 3000 dps pr sec when you spamed it
your content is fire
Good one
2020: gold mini: ha ur better than you! pyro: awh man i wih i can get buff
2022: pyro: PRAISE ME ALL HAIL THE LORD!!
John don’t u have a good battle station? Why ur graphics not at max lol
Yoooo pyro is now as good as the good ol days in TDS
Bro 3:45 got me rolling on the floor😂😂
Hi john, i heard that you and roxa broke up, i hope your okay, btw im ur biggest fan :D
My coins is 17000, i dont have any golden skins, but i hope i will get golden pyro for hardcore, and golden scout for polluted wasteland, in the old that two is the most unwanted skin right?
TDS… TDS is doing good.
3:44 John turned into a monster
thanks for the mr incredible jumpscare, appreciate it
3:45 Donkey John
Golden pyro and crook boss can solo molten mode I try it works with support
When you get golden pyromancer: trash
Golden Pyro after Golden Park update: overpowered
Golden pyromancer is now way more better than warden but warden still my favourite the thing is warden cannot kill the the fallen king yet cause of his range but does lots of damage and dps so golden pyromancer buff is good 💪
ok but community overrates it way much
if it can solo fallen it doesn't mean it's instantly the best tower
hc and events exist anyway
and normal pyro is still bs
He is used in hc
Hes such a good tower in hc speedruns
@@user-in6fe9bh3r who even does hc speedruns anymore
@@fili2871 Apparently the entire party queue at the tds discord server.
John could u please try to spawn Ducky D00M in another different map
John Roblox: Abnormal boss
Me: Admiral boss
Eggrypted got to wave 47 solo on hardcore using this thing ace pilots rangers and commander for support