Hardcore Beta is perfect. Its basically harder version of fallen mode, but this hardcore they put lots of enemies that need certain tower just to counter it
The best version imo was the first official version, I feel beta was easy, you could even use sniper which was bad at that moment, and at the end it would be the same, ranger spam, which is not bad tho The next version required a bit more of strategy and teamwork and rng wasn't a really big problem, and really, WB feels more like a hardcore map than Robloxia (the map me and many people used in beta) I think fixing the placement price was a mistake, the version with this fix was basically hard just for the early game
One of the main problem right now is that the hardcore lobbies are in tds lobby servers. Like when have you ever used those things without private servers or friends?
TDS before: "Ayyy, it's so much fun than Tower battles, because it's survival and easy. So enjoyable :D" TDS now: Waiting 2 years for a new totally balanced update.
@@Pyromaniac-bt6jd my dude have ever seen what actually balancing is It isnt just making evrything OP and thats it They want the game to be fun and also u cant just belive that the devs are gona just buff evrything at wonse is not that simple
@@rafaelalvesoliveira245 By even worse, I was talking about how the OP complained that there was no update, and yet one just released. I was not complaining about the update itself.
@@hellothere9567 I was intending to speak positively about the update, I just worded it a bit badly. Also, I’m not even going to bother to explain why that is a bad comeback to any criticism/complaints.
I’ve never seen the community be so mad at an update probably cuz I joined on mid frost invasion, but I agree the balancing in the game right now is complete crap and probably even worse than ever.
Its sad that a mode that is meant for tryhards is impossible in the history of hardcore i cant think where hardcore is not near impossible the only thing i can think of is the hc beta, the only thing that is worth to play the current hc is to get accel and yet idk if old strats for gem grind still work
And it’s hard because of void reaver’s souls. When he’s mad, he spawns thousands of souls bc of new entity system that can hold over 5000 enemies and units at the same time, and so it’s not like 3-4 souls, it’s 50-100.
I think I had a diagnosis since this video is now 2 months old: the entity update allowed a lot more entities on the map at a time, so the coding got confused, and it allowed the void reaver to spawn way more than allowed now
I love how the commander said at the end ''strategy is key'' I mean strategy is key literally every wave but rng is also a key. But rng is a key to ruining hardcore like literally I just saw like 100 souls get spawned in and they got overwhelmed even with cheats.
honestly hardcore just needs an entire revamp, the "towers on the floor can't hit sky enemies" is stupid, why not just half their damage when attacking sky enemies or somethin like that
No one has yet proven to have beaten this gamemode, with cheats or not. In no social media, not even the tds discord server, has someone shown real proof that you can win legitimatelly.
Imo, I think the towers prices in hardcore shouldn't be raised. It should be the same price as the normal tower. (along with the upgrades) This game mode needs a rebalance and the rewards should be changed. The gems rewarding you low prices is ehhh. But when you triumph you get 250/500 gems. (This is just a concept ok)
Yeah it's insanely hard even though you have accelerator you still lose even with the most strongest and the 1st Tower in the game you will still lose I hope the Devs fix that
its actually possible but only for admins. you need to spam monsters and kill the void reavers really quickly (spawn monsters before void reavers spawn so they can be in the spawn thingy already)
The thing is thousands of people win those modes for the first time. Less people win hardcore for the first time than people win the other modes for the first time.
I feel like accel in the front and turrets in the middle to counter soul with cheats can probably have a small chance because they had turrets in the front cause accel targeting system sucks
@@thealltimeusername with 100 of them 650hp each turret need to kill the, but they literaly have 65k hp. its like a whole molten boss spawn, but can only be beat with turret. yea, sheet
John:is he gonna get mad? John:oh my God a baby getting mad googoogaagaa Void reaver:*getting really fricking mad* Void reaver:/spawn enemy soul 1,000,000
Hardcore now very impossible. I like the official release version of harcore bc the hardcore now very hard. The hardcore beta version quite easy in my opinion bc you requiring a bit of strat or no need strat but atleast you know what u doing with your teamnate in hardcore
Hardcore more like Hardcore is literally impossibe no matter what you do you will never win it is an unfair gamemode that only about 2k people have beaten.
@@bludeay987 you need like 2.5k to get the accel , and you mostly fail , and if you DID win , you will only get 150 gems for like 40 minutes , not worth it
If there was a better way to grind,I might wanted those gems to be earned randomly Or Have a specific enemy called Gemstone or something that drops gems when killed,it's optional and won't affect your base. Has average stats to ease up a bit,and appears randomly. Spawn chance raises up slightly throughout the match,plus a badge for being lucky when a gemstone spawns on wave 1
the best way to farm gems on this gamemode is to lose lol
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Congratulations on 1M Subscribers John!!!! :)
John
Ok
@Polar haha no
ok
Hardcore Beta is perfect. Its basically harder version of fallen mode, but this hardcore they put lots of enemies that need certain tower just to counter it
Yea Hardcore beta was good before but now we got high price, died on mega slows, and lose on souls.
The best version imo was the first official version, I feel beta was easy, you could even use sniper which was bad at that moment, and at the end it would be the same, ranger spam, which is not bad tho
The next version required a bit more of strategy and teamwork and rng wasn't a really big problem, and really, WB feels more like a hardcore map than Robloxia (the map me and many people used in beta)
I think fixing the placement price was a mistake, the version with this fix was basically hard just for the early game
You rely for good rng
First one was funner cuz freestyling
Bruh beta was literary a fallen but longer, cooler. new enemies it literary wasn’t a “challenge” I think it was just too easy to be hard
One of the main problem right now is that the hardcore lobbies are in tds lobby servers. Like when have you ever used those things without private servers or friends?
And it's also super unbalanced
@@Nooks73 ok?
Oof
agreed
@@RRRRRRRR1-k5n what
I'm sure below gonna balanced Hardcore but at the same time they might take a while, like Golden Mode trying to be balanced.
Below if deaf, he is only a decent listener when towers can get 0.0000000001 more firerate
kids: im gonna pretend i didnt see that
@@jjthecreative9966 he literally said he’s bad at balancing in genera
@Jeff The DJ (???Gamer¿¿¿) let's be honest
Ur bad at tds
@@jjthecreative9966 also a kid
congratulations in 1M subscribers John!!!!!
Ukraine what are you doing here
Yes
Your late
He already got 1M subs at the pat few days
Ello Ukraine ball
TDS before: "Ayyy, it's so much fun than Tower battles, because it's survival and easy. So enjoyable :D"
TDS now: Waiting 2 years for a new totally balanced update.
IT JUST GOT AN UPDATE
Even worse when that update just buffed a decent amount of towers.
@@Pyromaniac-bt6jd Tell me you don’t know how to develop without telling me you don’t know hoe to develop.
@@Pyromaniac-bt6jd my dude have ever seen what actually balancing is
It isnt just making evrything OP and thats it
They want the game to be fun and also u cant just belive that the devs are gona just buff evrything at wonse is not that simple
@@rafaelalvesoliveira245 By even worse, I was talking about how the OP complained that there was no update, and yet one just released. I was not complaining about the update itself.
@@hellothere9567 I was intending to speak positively about the update, I just worded it a bit badly. Also, I’m not even going to bother to explain why that is a bad comeback to any criticism/complaints.
I’ve never seen the community be so mad at an update probably cuz I joined on mid frost invasion, but I agree the balancing in the game right now is complete crap and probably even worse than ever.
I started playing mid Halloween, got the toxic 2 days before frost
Now it’s nerfed
Below you are ruining your game
The game was more fun back then
Now it’s just [Strategy] [Win] [Repeat]
@@BloonPlays It more so depends on you i just use random towers to not get bored
@@BloonPlays Not nerfed, fixed
@@hellothere9567 hes nerfed to a ground.before it was 10% slow down now its 5% the max before was also 50% and its now 25%
Its sad that a mode that is meant for tryhards is impossible in the history of hardcore i cant think where hardcore is not near impossible the only thing i can think of is the hc beta, the only thing that is worth to play the current hc is to get accel and yet idk if old strats for gem grind still work
Bruh,hardcore didn't really have a long history,not even five years of it,so right now it's the good old days
@@ΓιώργοςΠαρασκευόπουλος-ω4τ tds isnt even 3 yeard old wth u talking about
@@nerdokiddo8106 well that's why i wrote in the end
@@ΓιώργοςΠαρασκευόπουλος-ω4τ more like the bad old days lmfao
Bro you just have grind not win
damn now i dont feel bad for only getting to wave 21 in literally impossible game mode
Yeah but i got on wave 25 when commander nerf
yeah but I got on wave 0 when it was released (never really played it lol + I dont remember the wave I got to)
Void reaver: *misses the tower completely*
Logic: *spawns an army of souls*
An infestation of souls*
its rlly hard now like the old strat is still useable but yea its now hard since the commander nerf
True
@@RRRRRRRR1-k5n ngl
And it’s hard because of void reaver’s souls. When he’s mad, he spawns thousands of souls bc of new entity system that can hold over 5000 enemies and units at the same time, and so it’s not like 3-4 souls, it’s 50-100.
This is why supports should never get nerfed exception from freezer
Ah yes, "mathematically accurate"
Hardcore should be renamed to "Impossible mode" since now it really is impossible.
Nightmare mode is best i think
that is a good mode for game
Let me fix it:
Terrifying mode
Let me fix it : VoidCore Mode
Do ya one better "How far can you go without dying to souls?"
why you should never make a baby mad 6:00
6:09 My reaction when i have to do 20 hours of school and 500 pages of homework
6:07 this part is so funny 🤣
I love when i saw in the losing screen commander says "Strategy is key" 😂
@@Eli1eZ The commander wanted to say L
It means sike
S - Strategy
i - is
k - key
Equals SIKE
Literally me when I encounter 6 billion exploiters:
I think I had a diagnosis since this video is now 2 months old: the entity update allowed a lot more entities on the map at a time, so the coding got confused, and it allowed the void reaver to spawn way more than allowed now
Glad he decided to make a whole video on it
At this point, the void reavers should not be able to spawn souls.
heck they should just be replaced with the nfk
@@tylerjones-davis6269 bruh what the hell do you mean? Nfk is hell HE SPAWN CIRCUITS BRO AND HE STUN ABUSE
*mental breakdown*
@@tylerjones-davis6269 how to make hardcore from almost impossible to **LITERALLY UNBEATABLE**
Haha skill issue
@@InfiniteYūki stun abuse can be countered by pursuits and remember that the medic is stun immune
6:52 i'll show u what a balanced game is
And bro actually did it
6:04 im less concerned about the angry mob of souls and more concerned about the fact John is able to do make that sound
6:36 well guys even with cheats YOU STILL LOSE THE GODDANG GAME. WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!!!
You cant beat that with anything because it will go right through the towers
I love how the commander said at the end ''strategy is key'' I mean strategy is key literally every wave but rng is also a key. But rng is a key to ruining hardcore like literally I just saw like 100 souls get spawned in and they got overwhelmed even with cheats.
maxed out all towers already, does that mean u have to sell and replace? Hm
Lets be real, even if you sell and replace you still wouldnt put all the tower down fast enough to counter those souls spam
@@atomzz2487 macro!!1!1
Try macroing on literally 9999999999999999999 souls.
@@spoo1 macro it!1!
0:31 *"the best way to farm gems is losing the game, tds game design"* his voice just makes it even better lmao
I guess removing the limit troops only on hardcore will help? Idk
2:13 basically 90% of the tds community when they see someone with a skin thats female
True
John Roblox before: baby getting mad googoogaagaa *baby noises*
John Roblox after: HOWS THAT FAIR
after seeing that im never playing hardcore till it gets nerfed
@Walmart bean art just grind gems and buy that beam boi
@Jeff The DJ (???Gamer¿¿¿) i mean ranger is good for high health bosses and accel is mostly good for lower health
@@sy-2 Good for lead zombies
@@thanhan7879 oh yeah
@Jeff The DJ (???Gamer¿¿¿) yes, ranger is good for solo fallen while accel is just better in everything else
honestly hardcore just needs an entire revamp, the "towers on the floor can't hit sky enemies" is stupid, why not just half their damage when attacking sky enemies or somethin like that
Or at least like a 50% hit chance
It's funny how towers on ground can't hit sky enemies, yet cliff enemies can, w h a t
They won't cause they will need to rewrite the code of all the ground towers for attacking sky enemies
Or add a good sky attack tower that isnt gem costed
Fly detection : am i joke to you
3:58 it’s because sledger hit an hidden enemy I think
homewrecker is underrated
HE IS SAYING SPIKES THE ABILITY OF FALLEN SWORDMASTER THAT WAS BUGGED
I used freezer on slow boss, it shows the same effects
@@lcplaystuffsonline3200 that one tf2 weapon is only useful on ubers or pybro
@@lcplaystuffsonline3200 electro wizard is op
Congrats on 1 million John you deserve it u are cool and pro
Congrats on 1 million John!!! Been a loyal viewer since the arsenal content :) cant believe you’ve grown this much well deserved
Same
I was here when he was at 600k ik no one asked
@@noyes4968 that cool
6:16 Wha-
0:16 thats only new players getting the wins imagine how many wins there are a day for every account and not just new accounts getting a first win
No one has yet proven to have beaten this gamemode, with cheats or not. In no social media, not even the tds discord server, has someone shown real proof that you can win legitimatelly.
@@nerdokiddo8106 if you clicked the timestamp you would know what he is talking about
@@grittx2970 o ok im stupid
they should make it so you have 6 slots instead of 5 on hardcore so you can counter more enemies with the right towers
Actually they should make it 4 so it's harder
@@artaneva8151 don’t say that, they will take your idea and you I’ll be the cause of tds death.
You’ll*
@@artaneva8151nah they should change the placement limit, however if you have 3 players the placement limit is normal
well there is no strats, and the chances of you winning hc without a strat is pretty low so i see why.
we used a strat, eggs strat, the guy that literally made the strat
Lol
@@GDILIVES makes sense.
@@GDILIVES hi
@@Tomw1983theidiot hi
moral of the story: never call an other worldly void creature boss a baby.
HOW IS THAT FAIR
?
@@John_the_man2Watch the video 😁
Below sucks.
@@expi-rtedbelow is stupid
@@serial_designation_Zach102 yeah, l hate below too.
ya love to see an impossible-to -beat game..
Imo, I think the towers prices in hardcore shouldn't be raised. It should be the same price as the normal tower. (along with the upgrades) This game mode needs a rebalance and the rewards should be changed. The gems rewarding you low prices is ehhh. But when you triumph you get 250/500 gems. (This is just a concept ok)
bro even when they used cheats for money they still lost the prices dont matter you lose anyway
@@wizzyisreal There's always a possibility.
@@BlueMcBloxian well what if that possibility fails?
@@wizzyisreal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And thats why ts called "Hardcore"
"below, give me the game."
XTD: *ah yes, another sequel.*
Hes gonna nerf Hardcore and added john tower back if hes the owner
Hold up
How did you guess Tdx
Yeah it's insanely hard even though you have accelerator you still lose even with the most strongest and the 1st Tower in the game you will still lose I hope the Devs fix that
@Jeff The DJ (???Gamer¿¿¿) thanks for letting me know
@@aladinoz039554 its a lie below Did not say that
@Jeff The DJ (???Gamer¿¿¿) Oh boy I sure love spreading misinformation on the internet.
@@GOAT537 :0
its actually possible but only for admins. you need to spam monsters and kill the void reavers really quickly (spawn monsters before void reavers spawn so they can be in the spawn thingy already)
meanwhile souls
@@MobControl457spam exe?
The thing is thousands of people win those modes for the first time. Less people win hardcore for the first time than people win the other modes for the first time.
yea, this is something. but of with cheat and admin perm you cant do anything, you understand
I had a stroke reading this for the first time
Congrats on 1M keep up the good work and soon u will be at 5M 🔥
3:16 lol that ryhmed
06:36 THE VERY VERY BEST EPIC MOMENT WHEN JOHN SCREAM UNTIL MY EAR WANNA BROKE
Love how he didn't think of getting hidden detection at the back for souls and monster for boss.
majority of the towers there had hidden detection
just way too many souls
Around 50-100 souls right there
Souls sucks :(
He was trying to get a real win dude..
John:baby get mad gugugaga Void reaver:are you sure about that *spawns tuns off souls*
For me, the main problem is the Cash multiplier, cuz if there was no Cash multiplier, i bet i would have gotten to wave 45.
6:38 - 6:43
The loudest scream John have ever done XD
I feel like accel in the front and turrets in the middle to counter soul with cheats can probably have a small chance because they had turrets in the front cause accel targeting system sucks
there was literally a hundred of them you couldnt do anything
@@thealltimeusername with 100 of them 650hp each turret need to kill the, but they literaly have 65k hp. its like a whole molten boss spawn, but can only be beat with turret. yea, sheet
@@gertrude1585 + insane amount of speed from souls.
@slurry called using commander
Everyone rn:triumping hardcore is impossible
Elite mario and wikia:are u sure abt that
6:35 Well guys even with cheats U STILL LOSE THE GOD DAMN GAME *WHAT ARE U DOING*
Imagine after this video John join vc with below and blow Below's ears for making hardcore impossible
0:59 smartest tds player
Eyy Congratulations in 1M John! 🎉
For the billions of souls spawned you could have used the command to boost you base hp to 1b
It's hard to type fast
What about normal players?
6:22 john can just add like a million health lol
im pretty sure that he wasnt able to do that at the time
@@pandidapandahe could but he was trying to see if hardcore was even possible with only cash commands
He literally added 2 void reavers
@@ItsartoTVhe didn't
@@ItsartoTVno, hc used to spawn 2 void reaver with 700k hp each rather than 1 void reaver with 1.2m.
5:09 Eggrypted is Polish
o
This is just too funny
John: baby getting mad
2 second later: 6:08
5:28
Fire rate buff got nerfed because it is now “mathematically correct”
no its not
john, at this point your gonna be the only person able to revive tds when it dies
Your average guy beating hc with only 4 towers in 2024 solo
*by using overpowered strats found on the internet
It's easier now
1:35 I don't blame you for not understanding egg's accent
Souls are now the strongest enemy in tds cause there will be 1000 of them spawning
John:is he gonna get mad?
John:oh my God a baby getting mad googoogaagaa
Void reaver:*getting really fricking mad*
Void reaver:/spawn enemy soul 1,000,000
6:50 welp this might age well
“You Played TDS since October 2020?”
“Yes.”
“So you beaten hardcore?”
"it depends"
6:40 is funny lol!
You know it's impossible when a fucking ADMIN says it's impossible
i got to wave 50 and died i thought we can win but i lost
"you can't play with the noobs you probably lose most of the time"
Critical tower defense relatability
Hardcore now very impossible. I like the official release version of harcore bc the hardcore now very hard. The hardcore beta version quite easy in my opinion bc you requiring a bit of strat or no need strat but atleast you know what u doing with your teamnate in hardcore
I kinda agree but beta was too easy to call it “hardcore “ you just walked in and won
7 months later and cowboy rework, snipers, golden perks, engineers, maybe someday hardcore will be what it was made to be in beta
Fallen but harder
Hardcore more like Hardcore is literally impossibe no matter what you do you will never win it is an unfair gamemode that only about 2k people have beaten.
Dude nobody cares
They should rename the mode as "Impossiblecore"
@@smoltanjiro3015 and who the hell cares when you reach 1K subscribers?
@@owen3968 oooo
@@owen3968 epic comeback
Congrats onllyellion subs and Noice vid
Hardcore is now impossiblecore 💀
Nice name
Congrats on 1mil john.
Holy crap that looks like so hard below need to balance TDS
If only hardcore wasn’t broken in August 2020
now i know why john make tdx💀💀
Cause hes a noob
Congratulations on 1M subscribers John you really do earn it
If they hired me to fix Hardcore. I will rebalance it
No you wouldnt lmao
@@morenosimons6924 no, I am pro 😎
@@NotItsKaz not funny, didnt laugh
rebalencing isnt easy you know so i bet u will quit first second of the job
@@BYLT nah
Congrats with 1 million doe
Now let's wait 2 years so hardcore can get balanced
3:56
The cause of this when sledger accidentally hit the shadow boss it will create big spike ice
*ice is nice*
Btw congrats to 1m
6:07 that’s Litteraly the reason why hardcore is SO hard
It’s called “HARD”core what did you expect?
@@bludeay987 impossiblecore is more fitting
@@K5E4VX7YY2I9N sounds about right
@@bludeay987 you need like 2.5k to get the accel , and you mostly fail , and if you DID win , you will only get 150 gems for like 40 minutes , not worth it
0:50 great John teaching us about inflation
I have an idea: carry people in hardcore who hasn't win once yet with admin commands
i agree
He already did that lol
You can’t because cheat of getting accel and badge so and getting a crate
If he did, below would remove his admin commands
below wouldnt like that bc i give ppl free stuff that's very hard to get, or basically impossible now lol
John: is that a girl skin?
Eggeypted: yes
John: simp
Also john: neko dj,zero two,maid commander
2:20 When tds players see someone using a girl skin.
But then girl uses girl skin?
@PogFrogGamer What.
Congratulations on 1 million dude I’m subbed!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
If there was a better way to grind,I might wanted those gems to be earned randomly
Or
Have a specific enemy called Gemstone or something that drops gems when killed,it's optional and won't affect your base. Has average stats to ease up a bit,and appears randomly. Spawn chance raises up slightly throughout the match,plus a badge for being lucky when a gemstone spawns on wave 1
trading 100 coins for 1 gem
@@iwasneverkilled35165 golden tower=accelerator. ok
mimic:
5:59-6:10 got me dead also it spawned that much because the Reaver took all your tower which was 50’s souls and spawned em
Remember
Spread out your towers
@@capottoman yes
The badge means only the first win, not the 3rd or 4th win
Even with infinite money they still lost. That is how hard hardcore really is
reallt jhon?
Yes
yed
yes very
John : egg is simp. Also john : Zero two moment (2019)
Hidden wave is still harder it's impossible to win, no strategy wins, if you know you know
hidden wave was removed, and a strat easily beat it
no it isnt since hardcore is IMPOSSIBLE while hidden wave was possible.hidden wave had a strat to beat it. but hardcore HAS 0 STRATS
@@GreeniesOut ???????
also, is the joke that hidden wave is not in the game anymore
@@pandidapanda that's why I spoke in the present tense
Congrats with the 1 mil John!!! ^^