A few months ago I had a discussion with my grandmother and she didn’t understand how bad the housing market is today. She really asked why can’t my man and I just buy a house now ? My grandma and grandpa were able to buy a house back in 1978. They paid $45,000 and now it’s worth $500,000. My grandma also was able to retire early in her 40’s and live off of her pension. She also doesn’t understand how people are struggling to make ends meets and she said we just need to work more. My grandma also wanted me to keep my last toxic job just to say I have a job. Also yes I’m grateful for my grandma and all her generation did for me. Unlike my toxic abusive Gen X mother, she was very loving and kind and she taught me about my history, she taught me about self love, how to save money, and how important it is to build your credit. She is a black woman who grew up in the Jim Crow Era and was there for the Civil Rights Movement. Her generation fought for the rest of us to have rights but I’m just talking about how out of touch she is with what’s going on when it comes to how people are struggling financially today. Hell my own brother literally has to work two jobs to survive just like so many people in our society and yet my grandma still doesn’t get it.
If you think she'd be open to hearing, I had great 'awareness' with my relative by printing off and describing some numbers out there, adjusted for today's costs. I asked what she paid for her house as the average and what the salaries were. So if house back then cost x% of income, take a look at that ratio now. How salaries have not kept up with something like housing (just one cost, you can use others like college loans/ education, even a car) and suddenly the light went on. Dollars to dollars. Why 2 incomes are needed is not just to pay for the 'luxuries', it's to pay for the basics. She had a context she could understand better.
damn I’m glad I finished reading this entire post because I was about to say that your grandma sounds really mean oof. but I actually think it’s really sad when I hear about people in marginalized groups say stuff like this, because it makes me think that they believed the stuff society told them about pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and eventually leading them to try and push those same thoughts onto other people. and that really sucks. I hope you and your family find peace in these hard times ❤
I grew up in the shadow of the Boomer mythos and in my teens, I was as into 1960s bands, music, movies and pop culture as I was '90s music, movies, and culture. I admired their fights for justice and to change the world. I encountered many of them as teachers and guides on my spiritual journey. I continued to hold them in high regard until the late '00s / early 2010s when I started reading hit piece after hit piece on the Millennial generation written by Boomers and feeling the absolute scorn and lack of care they had for anyone of the younger generations. Our struggles didn't move them to try to make things any different; it was almost more like they were gloating, rubbing our noses in shit (their shit). I had also been living through the experience of how they sat perched on positions of power, blocking younger folks from going anywhere in their careers. Not just that, but they'd ratcheted up the job qualifications (master's degree required for positions they were grandfathered into with an H.S. diploma or GED) and ratcheted down the pay. Their cynical maneuverings were a major reason I ended up switching careers later on. Struggling to try to make it in the world they created, working my ass off, while reading their hot takes on how "lazy" and "entitled" my generation was started to sour me on them. From there I noticed all we've noticed collectively as a culture over the last 10 years. As with many Millennials, a lot of the tokens of material security that my parents and many in their generation obtained easily are still out of reach for me, though I'm middle-aged now. And I can easily say I've worked at least twice as hard as either of my parents to have significantly less wealth or security. Both my parents are pretty typical Boomers. Their near-total self-centeredness-to the extent I as a child was expected to meet their emotional needs, while they considered it none of their business to try to meet mine-has manifested in more and more grotesque ways as time has worn on. And of course Boomers have been a disaster for this country politically. Like a lot of people at this point, I'm just waiting for them to die, and I'm not going to apologize for it after a youth of admiring them and a young adulthood kissing their asses and working my ass off to make profits for them and now having so little to show for it personally, on top of having to live in a world that has become progressively more horrifying over the last 10-15 years largely thanks to their actions. They did some good things but at this point they're dragging us all down.
Yeah I’m right there with you, waiting for them to pass on. It’s beyond me how they are elected officials that really don’t represent the majority, considering millennials and Gen z outnumber them.
Great analysis. I'm really sorry your parents treated you like that and I can definitely understand you anger. I really can't disagree with anything you have said about the generation as a whole. Obviously, not every boomer fits this mold, but they still control virtually all aspects of our lives at this point and the bulk of the ones that have this power couldn't give 2 shits about anyone that comes after them.
I think that the problem with the Boomers is that they spent their whole lives thinking that they are the "main characters", but then the world moved on.
Everyone is the main character of his/her own story, a supporting character to their circle of friends and family, a bit part to some of their co-workers and neighbors, and an extra to everyone else in the world.
@@MelanieNLee I disagree: Many people are intricately aware of how themselves and their lives constitute only a small part of the bigger picture. Boomers were elevated by the wartime generation as "the future" as "hope" as "what we were fighting for" and now they are reeling in disbelief that the world has moved beyond them. They are in abject shock that they are actually going to die, and that life will continue after they are gone, and, they are very prepared to take it down with them, from the world leaders who have their fingers hovering gleefully over the nuclear launch buttons, to the layman scoffing at any suggestion of lifestyle changes to protect the environment for future generations.
@@reaceness We Boomers grew up with the ideas of protecting the environment, ending racism, and ending war. In our eyes, our parents' generation was responsible for creating pollution, continuing racism, and glorifying war. So it turns out now that too many of us let go of those ideals and have embraced the advantages--to certain people--of capitalism, racism, warmongering, and yes, ignoring our corporate industrial system's impact upon the environment. Or maybe, this generation gap has always existed, from generation to generation, with a younger generation blaming their parents for the world's woes. One day, Reace Novello, you will receive this attitude from your children. I disavow the idea that Baby Boomers always espoused war, racism, runaway capitalism, and anti-environmentalism, but I must acknowledge the fact that too many of us grew up to become like that. However, I also believe that at least some of us hold onto those "love and peace" ideals and continue to fight for them. Some of us, still, desire those ideals, but may have given up the fight.
I think part of why there is so much frustration at older generations is young people are asked to be the ones to step up and make change and forge relationships with our grandparents despite seeing not necessarily seeing effort by the group that is actually more powerful, more experienced and theoretically, more 'adult' Obviously this isn't all Boomers, but as a young person when those kinds of boomers are all you personally interact with its hard to be told you need to be the bigger person when you're literally the 21 year old
Civil rights laws were also signed by Great Generation politicians and supporters of the New Deal. No, they weren't always great parents. A significant chunk of them were terrible parents. But at least they implemented widespread societal change in an attempt to make sure their kids wouldn't have to live like they did during the World Wars or the Depression.
But of course, at least until recently, it was perfectly normal and natural for one's icons to be 5-20 years older than oneself as a teen. When you are in highschool, the people making it big are those in their early to mid twenties. The internet has changed that, but up until the mid 00s, that's just how it was.
I noticed that musicians are always a generation older than their target audience. Millennials like bands like Green Day(Gen X) and a lot of Gen Z musicians are basically millennials
Fun Fact: the classic rock icons named for the 60s were all Silent Gens. Honestly some of the figures named are of that generation. We already trying to learn from Boomer failures, remember Gentle Parenting?
Gentle parenting? Nope. Most parents of contemporaries couldn’t give a rat’s ass about empathy…and almost all of us were children of Boomers. Nice try, but no dice. Gentle Parenting was as a result of bad Boomer parenting.
@@Trix897 do you mean permissive parenting? Letting your kids do whatever. That’s not what gentle parenting is. Gentle parenting is basically just teaching them how to people. Trust me it takes way more effort
@@chasingdharmaify Is that the official term for it? I’ve only been getting advice from other parents online. Maybe it’ll be easier to get book about that.
As a GenXer who knows rather a lot about my parent's generation, I find it hilarious that the Generation that was SO at odds with their parents, are now so critical of "the kids". Keep in mind, this is the generation that fought and won to lower the voting age to 18, and who famously championed the slogan "No one over 30 can be trusted". Seriously, ROFLMFAO
I read an article sometime last year that was on the subject of how liberal were boomers back in the day. The article pulled statistics from the 70s showing that while hippies got a lot of attention, boomers were statistically about as conservative as their parents.
I agree with that. My parents were both born in 1950 and they had a different taste in music and fashion than their parents, but otherwise? They went to work, put their money into their house and cars and tried to build a little bit of wealth by saving money. They might have had some dreams and some verbal fights with their parents, but otherwise no big rebels. And neither were their friends. My father actually dreamed of crossing the USA by motorcycle like in Easy Rider, but it never happened. We’re from Germany and I found a travel catalog for the USA after my father died. 🥲 It’s not so easy to live your dreams and change the world. People want to be rebels when their young but they also want children and for those children they want a roof over their heads, steady income, good schools. We shouldn’t look down on our boring, bourgeois boomer parents, when they became that way for us.
There’s this weird phenomenon where the counter culture aspect generations get the most remembered despite being counterculture and therefore not the majority. Most women weren’t flappers in the 1920s. Most boomers weren’t hippies.
@@kimberlyterasaki4843. Bingo! The best example from the article was the support for the Vietnam War. I remember in school we would talk about the protest and I seemed like there was just this huge movement against the war. Meanwhile one statistic the article sited was to the majority of Boomers supported the war and most of the men that fought in it voluntarily enlisted. Not to disregard the men that were drafted but the anti war movement wasn't the majority of Boomers like people think.
Same when people make it seem like there was this HUGE support for the civil rights movement. Even in the black community there was push back not just against the more radical elements, but even MLK. It's a dirty secret almost.
“During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the 'consolation' of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.” I think a lot of the Boomers who were actually out fighting for justice and change were either straight-up murdered (such as Fred Hampton or the Mississippi Burning murders), were imprisoned (leading to worse health later on that would kill them prematurely), or they died from drug use (heroin and cocaine in particular). What we're left with are the conservative boomers who want to pretend they were in the resistance and not part of the Vichy government.
I would argue that The Silent Generation (the one just prior to the Boomers) had more actual players in the movement in the 60s that created the culture of the times.
My mother is a baby boomer. That generation was the children of those who lived through the depression and thus grew up under the parentage of: "I'm gonna work hard so my kids don't have to" and they f*cking did. So my mom's generation grew up with so much just handed to them and now they have the nerve to call MY generation (millennials) entitled. My mom was a bar tender in her early to mid 20s. She was a single mom with 3 kids, all under 10 years old and we lived in a house. She didn't have state aid either. My aunt, her sister, was a waitress, single mother of 2, no high school diploma and had a condo. Also, no state aid. Uhhhhhh.... yeah.
As a tail-end Boomer (born in 1963) I saw in real time what progress happened to give more opportunities to women. The first was when Title IX was passed. My mother saw educational opportunities for me that she never had as a young woman in the 1940s. I remember when Roe vs Wade was decided and the relief my mother felt about her daughter having an additional choice in reproductive care. I remember when rape shield laws were enacted so a rape victim's sexual history couldn't be used against her. I remember when women could get fired from their jobs because they became pregnant and how that changed during the 1980s. Some progress was made, but as a tail-end Boomer I often felt that I was sweeping up the crumbs of what was left over. My career often stalled because older Boomers filled the jobs that limited any advancement. That delayed income increases, and add in the crashes of 2001 and 2008, now I'm priced out of home ownership. Seems like I have more in common with younger generations than the one I was born into.
Finally someone else who feels the same way as I do. Too many boomers got entry-level jobs, as appropriate, but dam well never moved up and out of them making way for younger people. When I started my company, thanks to boomers not growing up, I tell people move up or move out. After 5 years I expect to see initiative.
People who have the nostalgia power seem to think being a victim is club they aren't allowed in so of course they want in but ya know without the problems that come with it
Ah yes my favourite kind of statement: “X group WILL find a way to do y thing”. If someone made a similar statement such as “Liberals and Progressives WILL take a normal thing everyone does and try and be offended by it. That’s messed up” you’d tell them to stop generally and being silly.
I think as a society we need to drop the generational naming as a whole. It was literally invented to classify the consumers by age, nothing else, and is just a capitalistic devider.
This right here... There are undoubtedly cultural shifts that people live through that mark them as a group (so yeah generations) but the obsessiveness of this categorizing ...the concept of generational "wars" is bullshit marketing that fractures communities and makes it easier for us to be good little controlled consumers...
@@BillyBob-oi9kl building your society based on capitalism is a patently stupid idea, unless you personally have capital. If you need an example of that, consider looking at the state of affairs in the world's capitalist countries.
@@boneybaron2508 do yourself a favor and try to find literally one country that tried to do something other than capitalism that wasn't intensely harassed by the CIA for the entirety of its existence The CIA declassifies all of their information every couple of decades, you can just scroll through their official website and read up on the literal hundreds of instances of them spending millions of taxpayer dollars to undermine any serious attempts at building a society differently.
The funny thing about Baby Boomers is that various achievements in music or pop culture that are attributed to them were actually done by people from the generation before them. All four Beatles, the Stones, Bob Dylan, Jack Kerouac and Ken Kesey, Gloria Steinem, Billie Jean King, the Apollo astronauts, and the Stonewall protesters were all born before the war even ended and thus before the Baby Boom began. So Baby Boomers are guilty of the very thing they complain about their descendants supposedly doing, riding the coattails of their parents’ hard work.
OK, but none of those people were old enough to be Boomer parents. John Lennon was 5 when the baby boom started. George Harrison was 2. So maybe they were not "technically" Boomers, but they were a lot closer to them than their parents who were born in the 20s & 30s.
@@thevirtualtraveler okay, let me revise my initial comment thusly. Baby Boomers are guilty of the very thing they complain about their descendants supposedly doing: riding the coattails of *the previous generation’s hard work. Also counterpoint: it’s all arbitrary anyways, the concept of generations and where one ends and another begins. The cut off year for Baby Boomers is usually 1964. By that year, Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones had five children with five women before he turned 23 the following year. John Lennon was also 23 when he and his first wife Cynthia had Julian Lennon in 1963. My mother was born in 1965, making her GenX. Does that mean she has nothing in common with Julian Lennon who was born a Boomer just two years prior? So I agree that someone born towards the beginning of a generation has more in common with the previous one than someone born towards the end of their generation. But I was born four years after my Millennial sister and five years before my GenZ sister, if I don’t really fit neatly into either generation what does that make me? Food for thought
Gen X and Gen Z have so much overlap, too. Growing up with constant economic crashes and increased disparity, terrorism and war, propaganda and fear mongering from Boomers, a massive pandemic with far-reaching social issues, definitions of gender and social roles rapidly shifting... and a whole lot of great music/pop culture to deal with the constant stresses.
I really hate generation wars. It’s all cyclical and in 50 years everyone will blame gen Z for everything. The hope is that we can learn from past mistakes AND past successes, but every generation absolutely will make many mistakes, and they will also contribute a lot of good. We’re all all people doing the best we can with what we have and what we know. Why not learn from each other instead of tear each other down. Also - it’s all a lot of nonsense and finger pointing as a means of not looking at ourselves. Even saying “Boomers are the selfish generation” when data literally shows the rise of social media is causing more narcissistic tendencies, or boomers and their consumerism? We’re all on UA-cam, which is successful because it ultimately feeds consumerism - consumerism is at an all time high - we’re all guilty
I feel the idea of boomers being hypocritical and selfish is seen as more universal than it actually is. My non-white immigrant baby boomer parents had to face many obstacles trying to settle down and provide a life for their children, and that’s something we’ve always recognized and honoured. I know that’s true for many communities of color. I wish that narrative was recognized more.
Sorry bro, but even my black and Mexican friends have the same exact complaints as I do about my parents. It's generational, not racial. I guess it was a good try though.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Immigrant Boomers are definitely of the "I sacrificed everything for you, you ungrateful little brat!" type of self-centeredness. r/AsianParentStories is full of those kinds of stories. They refuse to consider that monetary success is not the same as actually showing affection and love for their children (and write off their children's natural needs for affection and support as just the wantings of "spoiled westernized brats").
My dad as I remember adviced me inna cafe ince with my older sister spreading working. She wasn't happy. It was supposed to be uplifting yet everything he was saying was unrealistic. I felt I wanted to say something but he didn't want to listen. It was an entanglement. I just agreed and kept the peace although it was shallow. "What do you want to be when you grow up?" Honestly? I get my money and I cant save even my sister becouse external forces take it by "good reasons." Buying a house is next to zero chance. Meeting people in this woke culture, feminist misindry toxic trends of the general is just bull. I had dreams, good intentions, even people. They faded or slapped my hand. That is my own generation that are reactionarys and lables they love to lable and cut people inside where there is love in the people that theyhurt. And yet they are going through stuff we dont know. Boomers then were considered to give love, but what is the opposite this video saying. Prejudice disguised as trend, ironic stoicism fighting for justice? It's a complete cluster and twisted Mostly people look like robots today and it's sad becouse it's like they are wearing mask. The only the that I wanted to see a person that smiled, enjoying them on that beach and that was a warm heart feeling I saw if my generation, even me being apart of it that never had that chance or even them not realising that if they asked and they answer what they think of me then what actually is the case. Becouse no one wants to listen to other people. It's like they want to go too ther grave and press the autopilot to make it move until its drops.
I did like what you mentioned about how the relationship with the boomers and their children mirroring the relationship with their own parents and how that is human. I have noticed something similar with my gen x and older millennial friends (I am an older millennial as well).. I see people of these generations starting to sound just like the boomer generation did when they were coming down on the "ridiculousness of the millennials".. I think there is a trap as one gets older, to want to distance from the younger generations, probably because they feel distanced already, and to put them down or "in their place". I agree that the generations should learn from each other instead of this push and pull.
To a degree I agree, but Millennials for instance have a more legitimate gripe about both the older (Boomers) and younger (GenZ) generations. I think given the austerity and hard road Millennials have had to undertake compared to Boomers, it made us Millennials initially more empathetic towards GenZ. GenZ however turned around and stabbed Millennials in the back by making fun of Millennials with little awareness about the world and history at large. I don't have a big issue with them being more socially aware, but there is something to Boomers complaints about younger generations not wanting to work anymore. I don't agree completely with that sentiment, but a few of my fellow Millennials have noted GenZ demand more at work, while the work ethic Millennials were taught to have had, diminished a bit with the next generation. It's a bit jarring because GenZ can to a degree get away with it today, now that Millennials are middle managers, but when Millennials entered the job market, it was "yes sir", or an attitude of "how high do you want me to jump" attitude Millennials had to endure when we graduated college during the Great Recession and unemployment was over 14% at many major cities. Boomers and older GenX were the middle managers then. Millennials were one of the most educated generations (statistically, not a personal bias), and yet the economic conditions in the U.S. and policies enacted by Boomers kind of screwed Millennials over. GenZ isn't facing the same job market as Millennials did when they started working in their young adult lives. Now Millennials are it feels like we're sandwiched between the still demanding Boomers/GenX and the more lackadaisical GenZ where we have to balance the absurd expectations of Boomers with the literally absent GenZ worker. I think Millennials need a break from the generations before and after us.
@@danmur2797 in my experience, the demands GenZ put forward to the employers are just what millenials started learning to do upwards of their 30s. To put it simply, the millenials never asked out of fear or impostor syndrome, and many are now angry with GenZ for not "going through what we went through", which is the same thing we Millenials are accusing Boomers of. I believe it's better to try to understand GenZ and learn from what many of them are doing well. Otherwise, well just be set in our ways, and in 10 to 20 years will end up where boomers are now, making the cycle repeat itself.
@@nikita3666 Oh I agree that it's a good thing GenZ is putting down clear lines they're not willing to cross for a job. Wish we Millennials would have had that option when we entered the job market in the 2000s and 2010s. Sadly though in my city--2nd largest metro in the U.S.--the housing bubble burst leading to the Great Recession 2008-2014. Unemployment in my metro area topped 14% then--for those under 30 yrs old it was closer to 25%. Even for college grads underemployment was endemic. We didn't have a choice because the boss could always replace us then with 100 more applicants behind us. So we put up with a lot. That I can let go though by joining GenZ in demanding better work life balance conditions and pay for all workers in the workplace (not just college educated professionals). However there's that saying about putting your money where your mouth is. So if I demanded better pay, better benefits like paid sick leave, vacation pto, longer maternity AND paternity pto, etc. all of which I still strongly agree with then I would try to be diligent as well. However now as I and my siblings and peers have become managers and consumers I can tell you first hand experience that getting some GenZ workers to do basic things is like pulling teeth. From undependable frequent call outs, putting strain on those who did show up to really awful customer service. I btw have been very considerate of my employees often siding with them over management where possible in the past. And I generally tip very well where most service workers who are often young work because I remember the struggle as an entry level worker and empathize. But some GenZ workers--and it's a trend--just don't show up when they need to figuratively and literally. I thought I was the only one that noticed until someone else close to my age in a supervisory position at a different company pointed it out as well. Also when I was younger working part time, I literally had to almost beg sometimes to work more some weeks so I could make my car payment and even though I was a hard worker, they still cut hours to all employees across the board. My sister today says that her part time employees 1) don't want extra shifts 2) call out often (more than 10 times in a month), or are 45 minutes or more late 6 times in less than 2 months. I totally cannot relate about being so lackadaisical when I struggled so much earlier practically having to almost grovel to work to have some money--only as recently as 2010 mind you, not 1980 or 1990. Still I do agree at least that employers need to treat their employees across the board much better, and if GenZ can bring them to the table I applaud them. They're just a mixed bag. I still dislike Boomer work culture btw.
@@danmur2797 Thanks so much for your perspective! It's very interesting to read, especially since I'm from another part of the world and even though the 2007/8 crisis hit us as well, it obviously wasn't as strong. I personally have had both good and bad experiences with GenZ where I work, like one person asked for a promotion very quickly without having any experience basically, while another is one of the most hard working and reliable colleagues I have. This is anecdotal evidence though of course :) Also I want to comment on GenZ, at least where I am and in other parts of the world like some European countries, are hard pressed to find work as well, especially straight out of college/uni. Still, again thanks for your perspective, I appreciate you sharing it!
The lack of community in the US prob didn't/doesn't help either. The nuclear family module, capitalism and how it overworks people, the workaholic hustle culture of boomers--all of it has lead to isolation and a lack of community, thus a lack of empathy and hyper-individualism and consumerism to fill the holes it can never actually fill.
The age gap between me and my mother is 37 years as she had me later as I'm w of 4 siblings. We are like chalk in cheese when it comes to world outlook, politics, housing opinion, relationships, technology. Everything is so different and we cannot relate on anything. Her advice has NEVER helped me because she just doesn't understand how the world operates for a millennial. We get branded complainers (irony), entitled and lazy. Yet everything happening in our lives now is a direct result of a boomers decision. Banking crisis, housing crisis, university fees, clown politics, social media was brought in by millennial but boomers made it possible. We are the product of everything which came before but world just gets stuck in the past all the time. We can't change the way the world works until boomers are dead and gone. Sad but true. It takes at least 100 years to change a generations hold on society. But no doubt in 50 years time generation A or whatever will be blaming millennials for not doing more for the climate..
I have hope Gen Alpha will have enough access to internet and digital tech that just looking up the statistics of who voted in what election to see where the real influence is. its not like how it was looking up things about life between the world wars, where you have to go thru and read all the newspapers from the times and collect the data first hand yourself, or hope some other historian already did some of that work
What empathy should I have for boomers? They signed permanent trade with China sending all manufacturing over seas, hoarded everything physically and mentally.... F them, seriously. btw, I did it with no help from parents - millennial business owner/Iraq veteran. do they think either of these are nobel? nope, I should go work for a company boomer for 12/hr they believe.
Both my gen X bestie and millenial me had a boomer mom born in 1947. Our two moms were very different yet stranglely similar: both revolved around themself, were selfrightous and demotivated their children, told them, they were never good enough. Her mom was neglectful, mine was overprotective. She was what people call a key-kid. A child that had two working parents and had to take care of herself when she came home. She mostly raised herself. My mom never let me do much myself, thinking, she had to protect me from myself and the world. My bestie grew up in east germany -the ddr, I in west germany. Her mom was a seamstress mine a teacher. She had friends. I had none. I was mostly home schooled by my mom - ilegally cuz it's not legal in our country and we lived hiding from the system until authorities caught us. Then my family went into hiding with me again. The result: my bestie is a strong selfloving woman with a huge heart. I'm a text book example of a broken millenial. If my mom was still alive, she would still control and own me not as a daughter but as a worshipper. She was a manipulative one-woman-cult. My bestie's mom is still alive and kickin'. Their not on good terms- but that's ok.
I am millennial in mid 30s with boomer grandparents, my parents had me young. As a child I admired the boomers. Their music, the counterculture, great movies, etc. By the time I was graduating college and starting my career, the financial crisis hit. Then the hate pieces against my generation went full force from boomers. We are entitled, lazy, unwilling to work, etc. That is when my relationship with boomers soured. My parents and grandparents went to school with a night job, while I was saddled with thousands in debt. Had difficulty finding GOOD jobs during the recession. Going back to school for a masters was the only way for me to get my first real job in my career. In my job, I mentor tbe younger employees and try to guide them through the pitfalls I went through early in my career. Have to break the cycle.
The baby boomers were kids in the 60's, I don't think that they were the source of the 60's movement, just the beneficiaries. The era was ushered in by people who were a bit older than them, even societal shifts that seem sudden were not. Those slightly older people knew the hardship of WWII, rationing etc. Boomers were born in a time of renewed optimism, thus the weird entitled vibe.
The older baby boomers were born 1946-1954 so they would have been teens and early 20’s in the 60’s. The younger boomers were born 1955-1964 so yea they would have been too young.
I worked my way through college and came out with no debt, and I'm well aware that I was in the last generation (Gen X) where it was even possible to do that. The gen before me didn't need degrees if they could read, and the gen after me needed degrees a min-wage teenager couldn't possibly pay for. We're the smallest generation (there aren't even enough of us to replace the retiring boomers) so we can't be accused of hogging all the... anything. And we've managed to avoid the pie-fight between the Boomers and Millenials!
Sadly, I’m a black woman from the tail end of GenX. I started college, then decided to go to work after a semester. After a couple of recessions, I realized I would never get ahead because I would continue to be considered uneducated even though I took AP/IB classes in high school. Now, I have much more debt than many contemporaries because I returned to college in 2008, at the height of our last recession. I am going to do all I can so my daughter doesn’t need to take out loans for an education.
@@merrytunes8697 btw, sorry you had to go through all that. But hey, at least 2008 was a better time for going back to college than for looking for a job!
I honestly think you guys are in the best position. All the other gens seem to forget you guys exist, so these generation squabbles don't touch you. Take that as a win. ;-)
Gen X got shit on with the economy and uncertainty of the Cold War. They grew up during the OPEC oil embargo, but they were able to get jobs in the tech sector, which paid a lot of money. That blew up with the Dot Com Bubble, so Gen Xers who didn't get in right away were left out. "Oh, I'll get a degree in web design and _then_ I'll travel to Silicone Valley. I'll get one of those six figure jobs because I'll have better qualifications than people who are there right now that may not have even graduated from high school!" was the thinking. But by the time they finished with their degree, it was worthless, especially as sites like Facebook and Google made their skills obsolete. As if that wasn't enough, they were finally managing to get into careers so they could start families before "lol whoops we destroyed the housing market in the worst economic crisis since the Depression." All of this was done with the threat of the US or USSR losing their shit and deciding to wipe out human civilization, followed by a group of religious radicals blowing up multiple skyscrapers in a single day. No wonder Gen X is the slacker generation and just doesn't give a fuck lmao...their whole lives have been a mix of Sisyphus and Kafka. 😭🤣
Clint Eastwood is the ultimate Boomer to me, and I think he even made a "Get off my lawn!" movie about it. Memes like that or 'Old man yells at cloud' always make me laugh. I think Grandpa Simpson was my earliest exposure to how we view this generation. He basically exists to be a never-ending supply of Boomer jokes. Good video
@@foxdragoon84 Totally, and it fits. He can afford a 2-car garage home, support 2 kids and a stay-at-home wife on his one salary despite not being hardworking or exceptional in any way.
Buzzfeed -- the same place that tried to make "cheugy" a thing a while back -- has now posted several of their lists this week that are starting to conflate Boomers with Gen X, and suggest that Gen X = MAGA Trumpers. No. Absolutely not. Not even close.
Is Obama a boomer or a GenX? I mean the starting/ending years of these gens are kinda all over the place People tend to forget that generation between boomers and millennials and I know Obama was a rather “young” politician.
Obama is on the cusp of Boomer/GenX. Born 1961. Generation Jones I guess (that's a thing). I was thinking the same thing. But, for the most part Gen X has been kind of ignored in the generation conversation. Suits me fine although it's annoying when we get grouped with Boomers/Millennials
When it comes to relationships with older generations, I consider myself lucky: My father turned 80 this year, and while he occasionally struggles with some technologies, it’s rarely because of a dismissive attitude or lack of trying. He’s also been a real estate lawyer and politically active for decades, so he’s arguably more “worldly” about most things than I am. Part of the problem for any generation is when they refuse to adapt/move on as a matter of misguided principle.
@@9395gb I know he's not a boomer. I was speaking more generally in terms of living alongside an older generation and how that can impact both sides (for better or worse).
My Dad's in his early 80's as well, and I feel the same. He really tries to grow and adapt and though we sometimes debate each other on certain issues, I've never felt like he's condescending to my generation (Gen X) or younger generations. Maybe that's because he was a teacher for so long, so he was coming in contact with the way younger people thought all the time. Now he's got his grandkids.
@@Erica-en2qz That “coming into contact“ aspect is crucial. I work in a public library system, and fairly often we run into customers - usually older people - who have substantial difficulty with technological concepts that younger generations take for granted. In some cases there are fully legitimate reasons for that difficulty (financial constraints limiting personal access to computers, newly arrived immigrants with bigger issues to deal with, serious health problems limiting time spent on learning/activities, ect…), but when there seems to be no real barrier to them gaining that knowledge besides the oft-repeated excuse of “I’m this-many-years-old”, our patience only goes so far. Sounds kind of harsh, I admit, but when you hear it repeatedly week after week, it throws the digital divide into sharper focus without always offering real solutions. It’s frustrating for everyone.
I still see it as more of a class division than an age defined one. If you came from wealth, or had great-grandparents/grandparents that passed that wealth on to their kids, maybe this "boomer" classification holds more water. If you were still working class or near the poverty line, these advantages of the post-war era weren't always readily available to you, or the expectations of materiality and property were not thrust upon you. I know plenty of boomers who see the value in collectivism, who try to elevate or amplify the voices of younger generations to generate equitable and positive change. Yes, there are always those who gripe about the latest generation for how they communicate, or the ones who embody the very persona discussed in the video - material-driven, libertarian self reliance, and a desire to uphold capitalist profit over shared public goods and services. But in my experience they are typically those who were born into money, or who exploited the dot com boom in the late 1990s, thinking that their "brilliance" at cashing in on the stock market at just the right time made them exceptionally smarter than others. For the average lower-middle class household, that is simply not the case.
In all fairness though, the two generations who came of age in the West during the Cold War helped bring about a truly monumental transformation of Western society: gender equality, racial integration (somewhat), decolonization, students' rights, workers' rights, patients' rights, tenants' rights, LGBT rights, dismantling all manner of rigid sterotypes and barriers and also creating an unprecedented explosion of creativity and freedom and exploration and experimentation. Much of what we take for granted in Western society today is thanks to their efforts and their choices. Now they're all old and grumpy (or dead), but boy, what a time to have been young in a rich and democratic country in the 1970s compared to any generation that came before!
… I am a late boomer who grew up wanting to be a hippie and wanting to protest against the Vietnam war. So I started protesting it at 12 when the older boomers were 22. Like millions of us, I am super liberal and have always been super liberal and I get more liberal as I get older. Stereotypes always fail, even if theyre funny.
I think this whole notion of “young liberal, old conservative” is a unique narrative to a certain set of boomers. Most people don’t pick an ideology based on their 401k but because they have genuinely held ideological beliefs.
I’m with you except I’m from the previous generation, the Silent Generation who did protest the War in Vietnam, for women’s rights. I was inspired by JFK who became president when I was a senior in high school.
@@rachelgarber1423 That was such an explosive time to be young. I bet his assassination was devastating for you. I was in first grade when he was killed and the principal’s voice came over the brown speaker box in the classroom to tell us the president was dead. My teacher cried. That was awful. So I raised my hand and tried to comfort her and said we should all be sad if we’re Democrats or if we’re Republicans. Because I knew my parents were Republicans (bah). But that just made her cry more and give me a big hug.
I honestly don’t know what it is that boomers don’t get about how difficult things are for the younger generations now. Have they forgotten how to do math? They live in the same world we do. They pay rent/mortgages, buy cars, gas and groceries just like everyone else. How do you live day-to-day in this county watching your children and grandchildren struggle and come to the conclusion that they’re not working hard enough? Maybe they should stop taking over younger generations and put pen to paper and realize for themselves how much better they had it, instead of telling us how much better we do.
every generation has wonderful hard working people and also lazy assholes. Every generation had both hardships and benefits that other generations can never understand. Pretending 1 generation is “better” is stupid. We all just grew up differently which obviously results in different values and perspectives, but everyone is doing the best they can with what they had
I remember reading an essay by Pliny the Elder, who lived during the Roman Republic. He was constantly bemoaning the fact that the younger generations do not respect their elders and do not have sufficient gravitas for the rules and customs of Roman Culture. He was writing this circa 200 BCE. This video’s assertion that generational conflict is a human condition rather than something unique is very true-as proven by Pliny the Elder’s woes over 2,000 years ago. The real take away is to make sure we have empathy, learn from past mistakes, and treat others the way we would like to be treated. Only then can we actually be better.
It might be different for Millenials but for Zoomers, part of why 'Ok Boomer' took off is because it's an expression of our feeling of powerlessness in the face of more powerful but sometimes wrong or harmful people Sometimes all you can say is 'ok' to your racist grandparents (Again, obviously not all boomers but it's also a very common experience for young people)
Dude... their inability to accept accountability and unwillingness to be wrong has been their drive since forever. They live in a constant state of saying fuck you to their kids and grandkids.
Yeah I remember seeing a bumper sticker and I'm paraphrasing here. I was one of those hippies who fought against the system but now I work for the system..
At 7:02, you talk about The Trial of the Chicago 7 as among "stories about the Baby Boomer generation," and... there's just one problem. None of the 7 defendants were Boomers. They were all members of the Silent Generation. So was Martin Luther King. In fact, most activists in the Civil Rights and anti-war movements were Silent Generation. The Baby Boomers on average were way too young to be involved in political activism, but they took credit for it because, what, they partied at some hippie music concerts. The Silent Generation grew up in the Great Depression and World War II. The Baby Boomers grew up in economic prosperity and peacetime. They didn't understand hunger or conflict on a global scale. So, their parents who struggled to provide a better life for them unintentionally created a generation of spoiled brats who believed in "change" on a superficial level but actively voted for policies that personally benefited them.
I think this fight between generation is nonsense. A poor boomer is still a poor boomer like a poor millennial or Gen Z. do you think someone from Gen Z who was born into a silver lining have something in common with another Gez Z who was born into poverty? This is a class struggle. and honestly I love The Take, but this generation video feel empty
Hi it's me again :) Please make a video about things happening in Iran right now, the struggle and the purpose they have tells a lot about women right and harsh abused that women are facing in Middle East. The impact of Iranian women work on the general view and definition of feminism cannot be ignored. and a thought-provoking slogan Women,Life, Freedom and the message it holds . This is REALLY important because The biggest war for feminism is happening in Iran, right now If you’re living on earth and you’re being silent , you don’t get to talk about women rights anymore!
Likely won't as it's not "pop" culture but maybe if we can get them to somehow link it to narratives of Iranian women on-screen or something? Thinking of y'all. Keep fighting I know that feels like a stupid thing to say as an American we put you in this shit decades ago but don't stop fighting please.
The thing is, most of the people you mentioned here were NOT Boomers. All three stars of Easy Rider? Not Boomers. The men known as The Chicago 7? None were Boomers. Joplin? Morrison? The Beatles? Hendrix? NONE were Boomers. The founders of The Black Panthers? Not Boomers. Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway, the stars of Bonnie and Clyde? Not Boomers. They were ALL from "The Silent Generation" They were ALL born BEFORE World War II which doesn't make them Boomers. You should probably delete this video
My heart jumped when I spotted the snippet of "The Special Relationship". Such an underrated film. I wrote my Bachelor's Thesis on The Representation of Tony Blair in Peter Morgan Productions. He is not only the creator of The Crown (TB appears in season 5!), which he partly based on his play The Audience (in which TB in included in some productions) but also wrote THREE films with TB as a major character. The Deal (covering the gentlemen's agreement between Blair and Brown), The Queen (Oscar winning film about how TB saved the monarchy) and finally The Special Relationship (TB's downfall). Everytime Michael Sheen was cast as Tony Blair, I swaer there was a time my brain could not tell who's Blair and who's Sheen :D
A lot of criticism of boomers, at least from this video seems to stem from the idea individualism. I don’t think individualism itself is the problem as long as it’s not at the expense of anyone
Dividing people into rigid depications like ,generations´doesn't help anybody. We are all individuals or at least strive to be. Boomer this and Millenial that is taking away the singularity and forces everybody into a box to suffocate. People are people, sometimes they do good and sometimes they don't.
Let's talk about how boomers raised a generation of neglected latch key kids that their parents had more of a role in parenting than they actually did and how they failed miserably as grandparents and have nothing to do with their own grandchildren. The Boomer's parents were free child caregivers for them but they refused to do the same for their own grabdkids. They are the most entitled generation ever. Living in the house their parents left them for free but doing nothing for their own children. They poisoned the planet and ruined everything. They are actively taking away the rights they pretended to fight for.
I have some difficulty with this analysis, specifically that it assumes generations happen one after the other rather than all sort of shoved together. What I mean by this is that we don't have WW2/Greatest Gen giving birth to Silent who give birth to Boomers and on down the line. All of those lines get mixed up and sort of leap frogged, particularly as having children after 30 becomes more the norm. I've never met a single Boomer whose parents were the Silent generation and I don't know a lot of Gen Xers whose parents were Boomers. That's not to say that doesn't exist, but rather to point out that a fair bit of this analysis relies on parental cultural markers and then mis-identifies what generation those parents are likely to be from. Another issue is that this suggests that Boomers were the ones leading movements in the 60s rather than a mixture of Boomers and Silents. Given that the oldest boomers would have only hit their 20s midway through the 60s, there's a strong argument to be made that most actual leadership (outside of youth organizations) would have been from the previous generation. If you're going to talk about boomer myth-making, this is a pretty big fact to key into as it undermines the credibility of boomers as the civil rights generation. Sure, some of them took part and even rose to prominence but they were by no means the majority. They were, however, pretty uniformly hitting their stride as the 80s kicked off. This would all make them less a group of former progressives who "sold out" and more a group who benefited from and became the architects of the 80s, fully embracing personal "betterment" and cut throat wealth building from the jump.
Yeah, you're right, I was arguing about how we were talking about how we were generalizing generations with an understanding that goes beyond human logic, especially when it comes to having children (while it was true that compared to today, you could be ab;e to have children at a younger age, that was simply not always the case, as there were plenty of Bommers and even silents who actually delayed having children until they felt they were financially secure enough, and many were even attending college). Also, quite funny enough, many Silents had a baby boomer as just their sibling rather than a child, as the former was born at a time when birth rates in the countries most likely to feel its effect (the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand), fell to an all-time low because families were unable to afford caring for children and the war had caused many men to leave for long periods of time. This means that if they didn't manage to wait for so long as to only wound up having one child and wanted to have more, we wound up having cases where many baby booms were five, six, seven, or even a decade younger than their siblings, and any generational conflicts between the two, in this case, was less parent-child conflicts and more of a sibling rivalry, hence another possible reason for demonizing baby boomers (it could have been the leftovers of what was apparently a sibling rivalry, as you can't be able to demonize your child, but you could with a sibling).
One thing to not dismiss (which was) is the turning point of the 1980 presidential election and the "Reagan democrats". Some of them were part of the 60's counterculture, but by 1980 had become part of the establishment. If you can, watch the movie Pump Up the Volume to hear the character played by Christian Slater express his thoughts on his parents generation.
Very well done presentation! As a Boomer, lucky enough to have Gen X, Millennial, and younger co-workers, friends, and students, I applaud your conclusion!
@@sarahcristina4656 The Greatest Generation refers to people who were of age during WW2, the Silent Generation were children and thus technically too old to be Boomers. Given that both are almost dead by now, It would make sense to talk about them soon
One thing my grandfather taught me is "there is no such word as can't". This from a Marine that was told he would never walk again after an injury on a beach assault in WWII and he did walk again after great effort. This has served me well in life. The mantra of Gen-whiners is "I can't".
I agree with the overall sentiment of understanding and sharing of knowledge between the generations. Ultimately, that's the most important thing we can attempt to do while the Boomers are still here. BUT, I think this video overlooks what most videos like this overlook: the pervasiveness and role of propaganda and social engineering.
I think hippies and woke have a lot of similarities, peace and love are really good principles, but in practice boomers got mocked as naive and yes, for boomers they seem to have meant something quite specific, to a certain extent removing a lot of hierarchical structures but in other ways becoming more individualistic and attacking the support that those structures actually gave people. Woke in a similar way was about highlighting injustice, but in practice it gets sneered at by a reactionary press and used to justify old school 80s choices. There is also a bullying aspect to wokeness though, twitter mobbing etc encourages conformity and division.
@@jordanloux3883 exactly, like hippy it could imply certain attitudes, but really it means how the younger generation differs, so it has become an insulting way to say young as well
Guys, I usually love your videos, but this was a miss. The Boomer-problem is way wider, It’s apparent in Europe (including the pos-Soviet word) for sure. Our boomer generation had way different generational trauma and those traumas experienced in the US ain’t applicable here. Neither Vietnam, neither the Watergate, neither the hippie movement, neither the racial tensions and the movements regarding racial tensions had any significant consequences on the people living in Prague, Warszawa, Vienna or Budapest. Yet boomers, more likely boomer conservatives make up most of our political and economical elite, yet intergénérationnel tensions are rising high, yet “I had a house at your age” is here, yet selfish voting patterns are evident here as well (just think about Brexit). Look outside the US and dig a little deeper please!
This is an interesting angle, an "International" analysis would have to look deeper than reflections on pop culture. Imagine this question, and really let it set in: When did our elders stop being a source of wisdom? I think the answer is in the internet age. The generation that repeated to me " You can't believe what you see on TV" now gets their "news" from FOX. As a child of the internet I grew up without that elder wisdom, it's normal for me and I never knew it to miss it. The boomers actually experienced the loss and it broke them. Worldwide they've embraced misinformation and ignorance .
Boomers had real parents. Parents that knew what the world was. They were either of the Greatest Generation or the Silent Generation. They’d seen the hardest times that this world had to serve up short of a zombie apocalypse and they survived the world with dignity AND they didn’t turn their offspring (Boomers) into sniveling, fragile pussies which has been a defining feature of every generation to follow.
Yeah, because living in times of civil rights unrest, a brutal war raging halfway across the world that was killing young Americans men and boys by the hundreds every day and violent, bloody riots breaking out in the streets of just about every major city was so easy.
It seems to me that the whole “ok boomer” meme came as a response to all theses boomers blaming new generations for every bad thing in the world, as if they were the last good generation.
I think this is thing of demographics and just different generations. The Baby Boomer cohort was huge and yes dominated the culture in my youth (I am generation x). I always preferred the movies and music from the Baby Boomer times while I was growing up. But no matter what each generation will have issues with the ones of the past and the ones coming after. As you said it is a "human" thing. What happened is that individual needs and desires will often win over idealism. No matter who ends up in power it will likely still continue.
Every generation will pass on both good and bad traits/trends/thoughts and world views. Most parents want a better life for their children. Hindsight will tell us where we failed. Wish I could be alive to see how Gen Z will fare with their ideologies and be criticized by the generations following them. Take what is good, improve upon it, learn from the mistakes, try not to sell out, but forgive yourselves when you go for the money. PS. Great sponsor- Masterclass! Glad you at least learned to make scrambled eggs from a boomer and got monetized with a sponsor ship selling multiple generation learning! 🤔
Go to college and you'll be fine, kids. P.S. A college degree is not a requirement in most disciplines. Common sense, hustle, professionalism, and collaboration are.
I think what always puts me off is if people put hippies in the boomer generation. Yes some boomers were born in the late 40s, but the core of the boomers were born the 50s. In the years of a Generation change there are always people who will be more influenced by events, circumstances and experiences that put them in one or the other generation and not the exact year. Boomers are children of superabundance and materialism. Children born during WW2 were the ones who participated mostly in the hippie and anti war movement and they were influenced by people who were mostly influenced by WW1 and the Great Depression. Yes a lot of the boomers participated in the anti war movement and are influenced by the ideas of the 60s but participating and creating a movement are two different things.
I wish you could have a character analysis to Brenda Chenowith from Six Feet Under because she's very intriguing and complex character and I love this show personally
I was raid by my boomer grandma because my gen x mother couldn’t. I’m gen z and my grandmas 2 sons have done well in life but my mom and me have done horribly I wonder if there is connection there that us women have become mentally wrecked so hard being raised by same woman. Prioritizing sons maybe. 🤡
The truth he major leaders I'm sixties were from the silent generation which were born and during the depression and their war was Korea. Don Draper would be listed as a member generation, and the greatest generation the once who should be blamed for the boomers.
wait, with all the video essays, they've made/uploaded, I can't remember if The Take has covered female nerds, geeks &fangirls, female characters that love comic books, sci-fi, horror, &fantasy, basically it almost still feels like that if they're not regarded as a love interest option, it feels like they're in the background/the side-kicks, although maybe it's because that used to be the character job for male nerds, geeks, fanboys atleast 50 years go, long story short, I was very happy when I watched OnlyLeigh's fangirls youtube videos,
I'm Generation X and I cook in a restaurant. What I want to know is why Baby Boomers always have to have their food "Well Done" or "Crisp".... they're all on blood pressure medication yet they keep eating deep fried junk 🤔🤷
As a child of boomer’s I’ve always despised the “ok boomer” term. I’ve always had tremendous respect for my dad’s generation- my dad marched in Alabama and helped people register to vote for the first time in Mississippi before he became a civil rights lawyer. I owe most of my social conscience to my parents, but they were still at least traditional enough to say respect for your elders was important.
if they could find enough references for it, they could at least think about covering the male feminist characters for a video essay, &truth be told not just the portrayals of them, but how to tell the difference between which guy is lying about being pro-feminism(as sadly it has happened historically) &which guys are genuine,
I'm a boomer and none of those things. I object to being portrayed like that. I'm from a mixed marriage, was a social worker and haven't been able to work for 25 years because my disability got worse. I'm 60 and was born in 1962. I'm autistic and have no use for the rules of society. I know no one around my age who is like you portrayed. I'm a part South Asian Indian and Ashkenazi Jewish non binary woman. To tell the truth I feel a lot of ageism and ableism right now. A rise in antisemitism and anti Asian violence and I am both.
So many of our Boomer parents got married as teens/early 20s and had Gen X. They they bailed on us and had second and third millennial families. This is yet another one of the stupid problems with pitting generations against each other: we're each other's siblings. We have more in common than not.
@@mastersnet18 you're right I wasn't thinking. It's cos I was born 1980 and am just gen x. So it confused me as to why until I remembered 1981 and up are considered millennials, thinking it was 2000 and up.
@@DS-uh6ss I think it comes from lack of memory as to what we all was like as teenagers and a bit a jealousy and hypocrisy. The boomer generation invented the teenager as almost the sub culture it is today. Its ironic they don't get along.
These generation features dont apply to all countries... my 'boomer' parents were born and grew up in a dictatorship, and this was in western Europe. They had a VERY different experience than this one that you portray. It bothers me how generally this topic is presented assuming all people born in between 1946 and 1964 fall under this umbrella and characteristics 🤨🤨🤨
if you are expecting English-speaking media to cover non-English-speaking countries, you need to revise your expectations, because that doesn't really happen.
A tip: all countries have Boomers, it's the years that might change. Example: in Spain the Boomers are roughly 10 years later than Americans. So late 50s to mid 70s, more or less.
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A few months ago I had a discussion with my grandmother and she didn’t understand how bad the housing market is today. She really asked why can’t my man and I just buy a house now ? My grandma and grandpa were able to buy a house back in 1978. They paid $45,000 and now it’s worth $500,000. My grandma also was able to retire early in her 40’s and live off of her pension. She also doesn’t understand how people are struggling to make ends meets and she said we just need to work more. My grandma also wanted me to keep my last toxic job just to say I have a job. Also yes I’m grateful for my grandma and all her generation did for me. Unlike my toxic abusive Gen X mother, she was very loving and kind and she taught me about my history, she taught me about self love, how to save money, and how important it is to build your credit. She is a black woman who grew up in the Jim Crow Era and was there for the Civil Rights Movement. Her generation fought for the rest of us to have rights but I’m just talking about how out of touch she is with what’s going on when it comes to how people are struggling financially today. Hell my own brother literally has to work two jobs to survive just like so many people in our society and yet my grandma still doesn’t get it.
What gets me is that you can do all you can to educate and they still won't understand and then you are drained of your bowl.
If you think she'd be open to hearing, I had great 'awareness' with my relative by printing off and describing some numbers out there, adjusted for today's costs. I asked what she paid for her house as the average and what the salaries were. So if house back then cost x% of income, take a look at that ratio now. How salaries have not kept up with something like housing (just one cost, you can use others like college loans/ education, even a car) and suddenly the light went on. Dollars to dollars. Why 2 incomes are needed is not just to pay for the 'luxuries', it's to pay for the basics. She had a context she could understand better.
Because this generation f*** up
Exactly! I don’t agree with this video saying that we should take their advice because it’s a different world now
damn I’m glad I finished reading this entire post because I was about to say that your grandma sounds really mean oof.
but I actually think it’s really sad when I hear about people in marginalized groups say stuff like this, because it makes me think that they believed the stuff society told them about pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and eventually leading them to try and push those same thoughts onto other people. and that really sucks.
I hope you and your family find peace in these hard times ❤
I grew up in the shadow of the Boomer mythos and in my teens, I was as into 1960s bands, music, movies and pop culture as I was '90s music, movies, and culture. I admired their fights for justice and to change the world. I encountered many of them as teachers and guides on my spiritual journey. I continued to hold them in high regard until the late '00s / early 2010s when I started reading hit piece after hit piece on the Millennial generation written by Boomers and feeling the absolute scorn and lack of care they had for anyone of the younger generations. Our struggles didn't move them to try to make things any different; it was almost more like they were gloating, rubbing our noses in shit (their shit).
I had also been living through the experience of how they sat perched on positions of power, blocking younger folks from going anywhere in their careers. Not just that, but they'd ratcheted up the job qualifications (master's degree required for positions they were grandfathered into with an H.S. diploma or GED) and ratcheted down the pay. Their cynical maneuverings were a major reason I ended up switching careers later on.
Struggling to try to make it in the world they created, working my ass off, while reading their hot takes on how "lazy" and "entitled" my generation was started to sour me on them. From there I noticed all we've noticed collectively as a culture over the last 10 years. As with many Millennials, a lot of the tokens of material security that my parents and many in their generation obtained easily are still out of reach for me, though I'm middle-aged now. And I can easily say I've worked at least twice as hard as either of my parents to have significantly less wealth or security.
Both my parents are pretty typical Boomers. Their near-total self-centeredness-to the extent I as a child was expected to meet their emotional needs, while they considered it none of their business to try to meet mine-has manifested in more and more grotesque ways as time has worn on.
And of course Boomers have been a disaster for this country politically. Like a lot of people at this point, I'm just waiting for them to die, and I'm not going to apologize for it after a youth of admiring them and a young adulthood kissing their asses and working my ass off to make profits for them and now having so little to show for it personally, on top of having to live in a world that has become progressively more horrifying over the last 10-15 years largely thanks to their actions. They did some good things but at this point they're dragging us all down.
Yeah I’m right there with you, waiting for them to pass on. It’s beyond me how they are elected officials that really don’t represent the majority, considering millennials and Gen z outnumber them.
Damn..... from someone in Australia
Great analysis. I'm really sorry your parents treated you like that and I can definitely understand you anger. I really can't disagree with anything you have said about the generation as a whole. Obviously, not every boomer fits this mold, but they still control virtually all aspects of our lives at this point and the bulk of the ones that have this power couldn't give 2 shits about anyone that comes after them.
Damn. Said exactly what I would've & a lot more eloquently. Right there with ya although a skosh younger! Thank you for putting this into words.
Very well said. You absolutely nailed it.
I think that the problem with the Boomers is that they spent their whole lives thinking that they are the "main characters", but then the world moved on.
Everyone is the main character of his/her own story, a supporting character to their circle of friends and family, a bit part to some of their co-workers and neighbors, and an extra to everyone else in the world.
@@MelanieNLee I disagree: Many people are intricately aware of how themselves and their lives constitute only a small part of the bigger picture. Boomers were elevated by the wartime generation as "the future" as "hope" as "what we were fighting for" and now they are reeling in disbelief that the world has moved beyond them. They are in abject shock that they are actually going to die, and that life will continue after they are gone, and, they are very prepared to take it down with them, from the world leaders who have their fingers hovering gleefully over the nuclear launch buttons, to the layman scoffing at any suggestion of lifestyle changes to protect the environment for future generations.
@@reaceness We Boomers grew up with the ideas of protecting the environment, ending racism, and ending war. In our eyes, our parents' generation was responsible for creating pollution, continuing racism, and glorifying war. So it turns out now that too many of us let go of those ideals and have embraced the advantages--to certain people--of capitalism, racism, warmongering, and yes, ignoring our corporate industrial system's impact upon the environment. Or maybe, this generation gap has always existed, from generation to generation, with a younger generation blaming their parents for the world's woes. One day, Reace Novello, you will receive this attitude from your children.
I disavow the idea that Baby Boomers always espoused war, racism, runaway capitalism, and anti-environmentalism, but I must acknowledge the fact that too many of us grew up to become like that. However, I also believe that at least some of us hold onto those "love and peace" ideals and continue to fight for them. Some of us, still, desire those ideals, but may have given up the fight.
And they are still trying to hold it back.
yes this will happen to you too
I think part of why there is so much frustration at older generations is young people are asked to be the ones to step up and make change and forge relationships with our grandparents despite seeing not necessarily seeing effort by the group that is actually more powerful, more experienced and theoretically, more 'adult'
Obviously this isn't all Boomers, but as a young person when those kinds of boomers are all you personally interact with its hard to be told you need to be the bigger person when you're literally the 21 year old
Interesting that the musicians mentioned are all part of the Silent Generation, Paul 1942, Jimi also 1942, Janis 1943
Civil rights laws were also signed by Great Generation politicians and supporters of the New Deal. No, they weren't always great parents. A significant chunk of them were terrible parents. But at least they implemented widespread societal change in an attempt to make sure their kids wouldn't have to live like they did during the World Wars or the Depression.
Where one generation starts and another ends has always been vague, those people mentioned are on the cusp so I’d let it slide
@@jerlinej3516
Not for the Boomers. The Baby Boom was a well-defined demographic event that occurred *after* WWII.
But of course, at least until recently, it was perfectly normal and natural for one's icons to be 5-20 years older than oneself as a teen. When you are in highschool, the people making it big are those in their early to mid twenties. The internet has changed that, but up until the mid 00s, that's just how it was.
I noticed that musicians are always a generation older than their target audience. Millennials like bands like Green Day(Gen X) and a lot of Gen Z musicians are basically millennials
It’s so on point how the inter generational trauma replicated through some reference to “You kids have it easy.”
Yes and no.
Their goal is to make life better for their kids and when they do they complain.
Fun Fact: the classic rock icons named for the 60s were all Silent Gens. Honestly some of the figures named are of that generation.
We already trying to learn from Boomer failures, remember Gentle Parenting?
Gentle parenting? Nope. Most parents of contemporaries couldn’t give a rat’s ass about empathy…and almost all of us were children of Boomers.
Nice try, but no dice. Gentle Parenting was as a result of bad Boomer parenting.
@@Trix897 do you mean permissive parenting? Letting your kids do whatever. That’s not what gentle parenting is. Gentle parenting is basically just teaching them how to people. Trust me it takes way more effort
I think you may mean attachment parenting. 😊
@@chasingdharmaify Is that the official term for it? I’ve only been getting advice from other parents online. Maybe it’ll be easier to get book about that.
Gentle parenting was an invention of the lost generation. Gen X...
As a GenXer who knows rather a lot about my parent's generation, I find it hilarious that the Generation that was SO at odds with their parents, are now so critical of "the kids". Keep in mind, this is the generation that fought and won to lower the voting age to 18, and who famously championed the slogan "No one over 30 can be trusted". Seriously, ROFLMFAO
Then sent their kids to a never ending war for Israel and lied about why we went.
They were certainly originally called the "Me Generation" for a good reason!
I read an article sometime last year that was on the subject of how liberal were boomers back in the day. The article pulled statistics from the 70s showing that while hippies got a lot of attention, boomers were statistically about as conservative as their parents.
I agree with that. My parents were both born in 1950 and they had a different taste in music and fashion than their parents, but otherwise? They went to work, put their money into their house and cars and tried to build a little bit of wealth by saving money.
They might have had some dreams and some verbal fights with their parents, but otherwise no big rebels. And neither were their friends.
My father actually dreamed of crossing the USA by motorcycle like in Easy Rider, but it never happened. We’re from Germany and I found a travel catalog for the USA after my father died. 🥲
It’s not so easy to live your dreams and change the world. People want to be rebels when their young but they also want children and for those children they want a roof over their heads, steady income, good schools.
We shouldn’t look down on our boring, bourgeois boomer parents, when they became that way for us.
There’s this weird phenomenon where the counter culture aspect generations get the most remembered despite being counterculture and therefore not the majority. Most women weren’t flappers in the 1920s. Most boomers weren’t hippies.
@@kimberlyterasaki4843. Bingo! The best example from the article was the support for the Vietnam War. I remember in school we would talk about the protest and I seemed like there was just this huge movement against the war. Meanwhile one statistic the article sited was to the majority of Boomers supported the war and most of the men that fought in it voluntarily enlisted. Not to disregard the men that were drafted but the anti war movement wasn't the majority of Boomers like people think.
Same when people make it seem like there was this HUGE support for the civil rights movement. Even in the black community there was push back not just against the more radical elements, but even MLK. It's a dirty secret almost.
“During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the 'consolation' of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.”
I think a lot of the Boomers who were actually out fighting for justice and change were either straight-up murdered (such as Fred Hampton or the Mississippi Burning murders), were imprisoned (leading to worse health later on that would kill them prematurely), or they died from drug use (heroin and cocaine in particular).
What we're left with are the conservative boomers who want to pretend they were in the resistance and not part of the Vichy government.
The world has changed so much from the 70's and 80's. Sadly some boomers still think life is like that.
I would argue that The Silent Generation (the one just prior to the Boomers) had more actual players in the movement in the 60s that created the culture of the times.
Ya the oldest boomers were just coming of age tbh
My mother is a baby boomer. That generation was the children of those who lived through the depression and thus grew up under the parentage of: "I'm gonna work hard so my kids don't have to" and they f*cking did. So my mom's generation grew up with so much just handed to them and now they have the nerve to call MY generation (millennials) entitled. My mom was a bar tender in her early to mid 20s. She was a single mom with 3 kids, all under 10 years old and we lived in a house. She didn't have state aid either. My aunt, her sister, was a waitress, single mother of 2, no high school diploma and had a condo. Also, no state aid. Uhhhhhh.... yeah.
As a tail-end Boomer (born in 1963) I saw in real time what progress happened to give more opportunities to women. The first was when Title IX was passed. My mother saw educational opportunities for me that she never had as a young woman in the 1940s. I remember when Roe vs Wade was decided and the relief my mother felt about her daughter having an additional choice in reproductive care. I remember when rape shield laws were enacted so a rape victim's sexual history couldn't be used against her. I remember when women could get fired from their jobs because they became pregnant and how that changed during the 1980s.
Some progress was made, but as a tail-end Boomer I often felt that I was sweeping up the crumbs of what was left over. My career often stalled because older Boomers filled the jobs that limited any advancement. That delayed income increases, and add in the crashes of 2001 and 2008, now I'm priced out of home ownership. Seems like I have more in common with younger generations than the one I was born into.
I feel the same way.I was born in 1958.I've always related to and felt more like Gen X.
As a current business owner, I refuse to hire any boomer. I loathe them but unfortunately they're the only ones with $ to pay for my services.
Finally someone else who feels the same way as I do. Too many boomers got entry-level jobs, as appropriate, but dam well never moved up and out of them making way for younger people.
When I started my company, thanks to boomers not growing up, I tell people move up or move out. After 5 years I expect to see initiative.
Libertarians and Conservatives will find some way to take a semi-ironic catchphrase and compare it to the N-Word. That’s messed up.
I remember them trying it with Karen
People who have the nostalgia power seem to think being a victim is club they aren't allowed in so of course they want in but ya know without the problems that come with it
Ah yes my favourite kind of statement: “X group WILL find a way to do y thing”.
If someone made a similar statement such as “Liberals and Progressives WILL take a normal thing everyone does and try and be offended by it. That’s messed up” you’d tell them to stop generally and being silly.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 yep
Maybe conservatives but definitely not libertarians.
I think as a society we need to drop the generational naming as a whole. It was literally invented to classify the consumers by age, nothing else, and is just a capitalistic devider.
This right here...
There are undoubtedly cultural shifts that people live through that mark them as a group (so yeah generations) but the obsessiveness of this categorizing ...the concept of generational "wars" is bullshit marketing that fractures communities and makes it easier for us to be good little controlled consumers...
And?
@@BillyBob-oi9kl building your society based on capitalism is a patently stupid idea, unless you personally have capital. If you need an example of that, consider looking at the state of affairs in the world's capitalist countries.
@Zed vs. the non-capitalist countries? Capitalism isn't awesome, but it's better than anything else out there.
Edit: spelling error
@@boneybaron2508 do yourself a favor and try to find literally one country that tried to do something other than capitalism that wasn't intensely harassed by the CIA for the entirety of its existence
The CIA declassifies all of their information every couple of decades, you can just scroll through their official website and read up on the literal hundreds of instances of them spending millions of taxpayer dollars to undermine any serious attempts at building a society differently.
The funny thing about Baby Boomers is that various achievements in music or pop culture that are attributed to them were actually done by people from the generation before them. All four Beatles, the Stones, Bob Dylan, Jack Kerouac and Ken Kesey, Gloria Steinem, Billie Jean King, the Apollo astronauts, and the Stonewall protesters were all born before the war even ended and thus before the Baby Boom began. So Baby Boomers are guilty of the very thing they complain about their descendants supposedly doing, riding the coattails of their parents’ hard work.
OK, but none of those people were old enough to be Boomer parents. John Lennon was 5 when the baby boom started. George Harrison was 2. So maybe they were not "technically" Boomers, but they were a lot closer to them than their parents who were born in the 20s & 30s.
@@thevirtualtraveler okay, let me revise my initial comment thusly. Baby Boomers are guilty of the very thing they complain about their descendants supposedly doing: riding the coattails of *the previous generation’s hard work.
Also counterpoint: it’s all arbitrary anyways, the concept of generations and where one ends and another begins. The cut off year for Baby Boomers is usually 1964. By that year, Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones had five children with five women before he turned 23 the following year. John Lennon was also 23 when he and his first wife Cynthia had Julian Lennon in 1963. My mother was born in 1965, making her GenX. Does that mean she has nothing in common with Julian Lennon who was born a Boomer just two years prior? So I agree that someone born towards the beginning of a generation has more in common with the previous one than someone born towards the end of their generation. But I was born four years after my Millennial sister and five years before my GenZ sister, if I don’t really fit neatly into either generation what does that make me? Food for thought
Not a boomer thing...that's a people thing.
Please do one on Gen X. We're always forgotten.
Gen X and Gen Z have so much overlap, too. Growing up with constant economic crashes and increased disparity, terrorism and war, propaganda and fear mongering from Boomers, a massive pandemic with far-reaching social issues, definitions of gender and social roles rapidly shifting... and a whole lot of great music/pop culture to deal with the constant stresses.
Gen-X was mostly just Boomers-Lite
just watch a john hughes movie and youre all set 😅
"meh".
See my separate comment.
I mean, you could view the peak and fall of idealized Baby Boomer history in 1994: Forrest Gump’s release, followed by New Gingrich’s takeover.
Gingrich doesn't get enough credit for the shit we're dealing with these days. He really screwed us.
@@dipperdandy The seeds of "zero compromise" politics, it began with Gingrich.
I really hate generation wars. It’s all cyclical and in 50 years everyone will blame gen Z for everything. The hope is that we can learn from past mistakes AND past successes, but every generation absolutely will make many mistakes, and they will also contribute a lot of good. We’re all all people doing the best we can with what we have and what we know. Why not learn from each other instead of tear each other down.
Also - it’s all a lot of nonsense and finger pointing as a means of not looking at ourselves. Even saying “Boomers are the selfish generation” when data literally shows the rise of social media is causing more narcissistic tendencies, or boomers and their consumerism? We’re all on UA-cam, which is successful because it ultimately feeds consumerism - consumerism is at an all time high - we’re all guilty
let's not forget that they're the original "me" generation.
Exactly! The kids in the 1970s were literally called "the Me Generation" by Time magazine.
I feel the idea of boomers being hypocritical and selfish is seen as more universal than it actually is. My non-white immigrant baby boomer parents had to face many obstacles trying to settle down and provide a life for their children, and that’s something we’ve always recognized and honoured. I know that’s true for many communities of color. I wish that narrative was recognized more.
I think many immigrant Boomers can be selfish, just it's a different flavor.
My observations is that this is more of a white issue.
Honestly, generational discussions typically focus on white folks.
Sorry bro, but even my black and Mexican friends have the same exact complaints as I do about my parents. It's generational, not racial. I guess it was a good try though.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Immigrant Boomers are definitely of the "I sacrificed everything for you, you ungrateful little brat!" type of self-centeredness. r/AsianParentStories is full of those kinds of stories. They refuse to consider that monetary success is not the same as actually showing affection and love for their children (and write off their children's natural needs for affection and support as just the wantings of "spoiled westernized brats").
The easiest way to say “Narcissistic Tendencies” is Boomer
BPD , boomer personality disorder 😂😂
But the “advice” they give doesn’t help us because we are in a different world now.
My dad as I remember adviced me inna cafe ince with my older sister spreading working. She wasn't happy. It was supposed to be uplifting yet everything he was saying was unrealistic. I felt I wanted to say something but he didn't want to listen. It was an entanglement. I just agreed and kept the peace although it was shallow. "What do you want to be when you grow up?" Honestly? I get my money and I cant save even my sister becouse external forces take it by "good reasons." Buying a house is next to zero chance. Meeting people in this woke culture, feminist misindry toxic trends of the general is just bull. I had dreams, good intentions, even people. They faded or slapped my hand. That is my own generation that are reactionarys and lables they love to lable and cut people inside where there is love in the people that theyhurt. And yet they are going through stuff we dont know.
Boomers then were considered to give love, but what is the opposite this video saying. Prejudice disguised as trend, ironic stoicism fighting for justice?
It's a complete cluster and twisted
Mostly people look like robots today and it's sad becouse it's like they are wearing mask. The only the that I wanted to see a person that smiled, enjoying them on that beach and that was a warm heart feeling I saw if my generation, even me being apart of it that never had that chance or even them not realising that if they asked and they answer what they think of me then what actually is the case. Becouse no one wants to listen to other people. It's like they want to go too ther grave and press the autopilot to make it move until its drops.
That's pretty accurate unfortunately. ESPECIALLY career/job hunting advice.
@@BJ-zd2or and they give insolicated advice anyway 😅
Boomers deliberately give bad advice. They literally see young people, including their own kids, as competition
I always like to say that my parents (boomers) didn't give me anything, not even good advice.
I did like what you mentioned about how the relationship with the boomers and their children mirroring the relationship with their own parents and how that is human. I have noticed something similar with my gen x and older millennial friends (I am an older millennial as well).. I see people of these generations starting to sound just like the boomer generation did when they were coming down on the "ridiculousness of the millennials".. I think there is a trap as one gets older, to want to distance from the younger generations, probably because they feel distanced already, and to put them down or "in their place". I agree that the generations should learn from each other instead of this push and pull.
To a degree I agree, but Millennials for instance have a more legitimate gripe about both the older (Boomers) and younger (GenZ) generations. I think given the austerity and hard road Millennials have had to undertake compared to Boomers, it made us Millennials initially more empathetic towards GenZ. GenZ however turned around and stabbed Millennials in the back by making fun of Millennials with little awareness about the world and history at large. I don't have a big issue with them being more socially aware, but there is something to Boomers complaints about younger generations not wanting to work anymore. I don't agree completely with that sentiment, but a few of my fellow Millennials have noted GenZ demand more at work, while the work ethic Millennials were taught to have had, diminished a bit with the next generation. It's a bit jarring because GenZ can to a degree get away with it today, now that Millennials are middle managers, but when Millennials entered the job market, it was "yes sir", or an attitude of "how high do you want me to jump" attitude Millennials had to endure when we graduated college during the Great Recession and unemployment was over 14% at many major cities. Boomers and older GenX were the middle managers then. Millennials were one of the most educated generations (statistically, not a personal bias), and yet the economic conditions in the U.S. and policies enacted by Boomers kind of screwed Millennials over. GenZ isn't facing the same job market as Millennials did when they started working in their young adult lives. Now Millennials are it feels like we're sandwiched between the still demanding Boomers/GenX and the more lackadaisical GenZ where we have to balance the absurd expectations of Boomers with the literally absent GenZ worker.
I think Millennials need a break from the generations before and after us.
@@danmur2797 in my experience, the demands GenZ put forward to the employers are just what millenials started learning to do upwards of their 30s. To put it simply, the millenials never asked out of fear or impostor syndrome, and many are now angry with GenZ for not "going through what we went through", which is the same thing we Millenials are accusing Boomers of.
I believe it's better to try to understand GenZ and learn from what many of them are doing well. Otherwise, well just be set in our ways, and in 10 to 20 years will end up where boomers are now, making the cycle repeat itself.
@@nikita3666 Oh I agree that it's a good thing GenZ is putting down clear lines they're not willing to cross for a job. Wish we Millennials would have had that option when we entered the job market in the 2000s and 2010s. Sadly though in my city--2nd largest metro in the U.S.--the housing bubble burst leading to the Great Recession 2008-2014. Unemployment in my metro area topped 14% then--for those under 30 yrs old it was closer to 25%. Even for college grads underemployment was endemic. We didn't have a choice because the boss could always replace us then with 100 more applicants behind us. So we put up with a lot.
That I can let go though by joining GenZ in demanding better work life balance conditions and pay for all workers in the workplace (not just college educated professionals). However there's that saying about putting your money where your mouth is. So if I demanded better pay, better benefits like paid sick leave, vacation pto, longer maternity AND paternity pto, etc. all of which I still strongly agree with then I would try to be diligent as well. However now as I and my siblings and peers have become managers and consumers I can tell you first hand experience that getting some GenZ workers to do basic things is like pulling teeth. From undependable frequent call outs, putting strain on those who did show up to really awful customer service. I btw have been very considerate of my employees often siding with them over management where possible in the past. And I generally tip very well where most service workers who are often young work because I remember the struggle as an entry level worker and empathize. But some GenZ workers--and it's a trend--just don't show up when they need to figuratively and literally. I thought I was the only one that noticed until someone else close to my age in a supervisory position at a different company pointed it out as well. Also when I was younger working part time, I literally had to almost beg sometimes to work more some weeks so I could make my car payment and even though I was a hard worker, they still cut hours to all employees across the board. My sister today says that her part time employees 1) don't want extra shifts 2) call out often (more than 10 times in a month), or are 45 minutes or more late 6 times in less than 2 months.
I totally cannot relate about being so lackadaisical when I struggled so much earlier practically having to almost grovel to work to have some money--only as recently as 2010 mind you, not 1980 or 1990. Still I do agree at least that employers need to treat their employees across the board much better, and if GenZ can bring them to the table I applaud them. They're just a mixed bag. I still dislike Boomer work culture btw.
@@danmur2797 Thanks so much for your perspective! It's very interesting to read, especially since I'm from another part of the world and even though the 2007/8 crisis hit us as well, it obviously wasn't as strong.
I personally have had both good and bad experiences with GenZ where I work, like one person asked for a promotion very quickly without having any experience basically, while another is one of the most hard working and reliable colleagues I have. This is anecdotal evidence though of course :)
Also I want to comment on GenZ, at least where I am and in other parts of the world like some European countries, are hard pressed to find work as well, especially straight out of college/uni.
Still, again thanks for your perspective, I appreciate you sharing it!
The lack of community in the US prob didn't/doesn't help either. The nuclear family module, capitalism and how it overworks people, the workaholic hustle culture of boomers--all of it has lead to isolation and a lack of community, thus a lack of empathy and hyper-individualism and consumerism to fill the holes it can never actually fill.
The age gap between me and my mother is 37 years as she had me later as I'm w of 4 siblings. We are like chalk in cheese when it comes to world outlook, politics, housing opinion, relationships, technology. Everything is so different and we cannot relate on anything. Her advice has NEVER helped me because she just doesn't understand how the world operates for a millennial. We get branded complainers (irony), entitled and lazy. Yet everything happening in our lives now is a direct result of a boomers decision. Banking crisis, housing crisis, university fees, clown politics, social media was brought in by millennial but boomers made it possible. We are the product of everything which came before but world just gets stuck in the past all the time. We can't change the way the world works until boomers are dead and gone. Sad but true. It takes at least 100 years to change a generations hold on society. But no doubt in 50 years time generation A or whatever will be blaming millennials for not doing more for the climate..
I have hope Gen Alpha will have enough access to internet and digital tech that just looking up the statistics of who voted in what election to see where the real influence is.
its not like how it was looking up things about life between the world wars, where you have to go thru and read all the newspapers from the times and collect the data first hand yourself, or hope some other historian already did some of that work
I will keep saying OK Boomer as long as they continue giving me reason to.
Brave and courageous. Here's a cookie 🍪
Hope your grandchildren have the same energy with you.
ok boomer
same
One of the issues with any group of privileged people is a lack of understanding and empathy.
What empathy should I have for boomers? They signed permanent trade with China sending all manufacturing over seas, hoarded everything physically and mentally.... F them, seriously. btw, I did it with no help from parents - millennial business owner/Iraq veteran. do they think either of these are nobel? nope, I should go work for a company boomer for 12/hr they believe.
Both my gen X bestie and millenial me had a boomer mom born in 1947. Our two moms were very different yet stranglely similar: both revolved around themself, were selfrightous and demotivated their children, told them, they were never good enough. Her mom was neglectful, mine was overprotective. She was what people call a key-kid. A child that had two working parents and had to take care of herself when she came home. She mostly raised herself. My mom never let me do much myself, thinking, she had to protect me from myself and the world. My bestie grew up in east germany -the ddr, I in west germany. Her mom was a seamstress mine a teacher. She had friends. I had none. I was mostly home schooled by my mom - ilegally cuz it's not legal in our country and we lived hiding from the system until authorities caught us. Then my family went into hiding with me again.
The result: my bestie is a strong selfloving woman with a huge heart. I'm a text book example of a broken millenial. If my mom was still alive, she would still control and own me not as a daughter but as a worshipper. She was a manipulative one-woman-cult. My bestie's mom is still alive and kickin'. Their not on good terms- but that's ok.
Omg 😳
I am millennial in mid 30s with boomer grandparents, my parents had me young. As a child I admired the boomers. Their music, the counterculture, great movies, etc. By the time I was graduating college and starting my career, the financial crisis hit. Then the hate pieces against my generation went full force from boomers. We are entitled, lazy, unwilling to work, etc. That is when my relationship with boomers soured. My parents and grandparents went to school with a night job, while I was saddled with thousands in debt. Had difficulty finding GOOD jobs during the recession. Going back to school for a masters was the only way for me to get my first real job in my career. In my job, I mentor tbe younger employees and try to guide them through the pitfalls I went through early in my career. Have to break the cycle.
This was one of the shallowest videos yet. I didn't feel like I got a new perspective on anything. Parents and kids fight. Rinse lather repeat .
It wasn’t a myth… it made sense at the time, it WORKED at the time. Things change… 🤦🏽♀️
The baby boomers were kids in the 60's, I don't think that they were the source of the 60's movement, just the beneficiaries. The era was ushered in by people who were a bit older than them, even societal shifts that seem sudden were not.
Those slightly older people knew the hardship of WWII, rationing etc. Boomers were born in a time of renewed optimism, thus the weird entitled vibe.
The older baby boomers were born 1946-1954 so they would have been teens and early 20’s in the 60’s. The younger boomers were born 1955-1964 so yea they would have been too young.
I worked my way through college and came out with no debt, and I'm well aware that I was in the last generation (Gen X) where it was even possible to do that. The gen before me didn't need degrees if they could read, and the gen after me needed degrees a min-wage teenager couldn't possibly pay for. We're the smallest generation (there aren't even enough of us to replace the retiring boomers) so we can't be accused of hogging all the... anything. And we've managed to avoid the pie-fight between the Boomers and Millenials!
Sadly, I’m a black woman from the tail end of GenX. I started college, then decided to go to work after a semester. After a couple of recessions, I realized I would never get ahead because I would continue to be considered uneducated even though I took AP/IB classes in high school. Now, I have much more debt than many contemporaries because I returned to college in 2008, at the height of our last recession. I am going to do all I can so my daughter doesn’t need to take out loans for an education.
@@merrytunes8697 btw, sorry you had to go through all that. But hey, at least 2008 was a better time for going back to college than for looking for a job!
@@jbtechcon7434 thank you! Very true!
I honestly think you guys are in the best position. All the other gens seem to forget you guys exist, so these generation squabbles don't touch you. Take that as a win. ;-)
Gen X got shit on with the economy and uncertainty of the Cold War. They grew up during the OPEC oil embargo, but they were able to get jobs in the tech sector, which paid a lot of money. That blew up with the Dot Com Bubble, so Gen Xers who didn't get in right away were left out.
"Oh, I'll get a degree in web design and _then_ I'll travel to Silicone Valley. I'll get one of those six figure jobs because I'll have better qualifications than people who are there right now that may not have even graduated from high school!" was the thinking. But by the time they finished with their degree, it was worthless, especially as sites like Facebook and Google made their skills obsolete.
As if that wasn't enough, they were finally managing to get into careers so they could start families before "lol whoops we destroyed the housing market in the worst economic crisis since the Depression."
All of this was done with the threat of the US or USSR losing their shit and deciding to wipe out human civilization, followed by a group of religious radicals blowing up multiple skyscrapers in a single day.
No wonder Gen X is the slacker generation and just doesn't give a fuck lmao...their whole lives have been a mix of Sisyphus and Kafka. 😭🤣
Clint Eastwood is the ultimate Boomer to me, and I think he even made a "Get off my lawn!" movie about it. Memes like that or 'Old man yells at cloud' always make me laugh. I think Grandpa Simpson was my earliest exposure to how we view this generation. He basically exists to be a never-ending supply of Boomer jokes.
Good video
Except he was born in 1930, he was part of so-called the Silent Generation 1928-1945
Yeah, Homer and Marge are Boomers. Abe loved through the depressions, was a WWII vet, and wore an onion on his belt
Homer is the boomer.
@@foxdragoon84 Totally, and it fits. He can afford a 2-car garage home, support 2 kids and a stay-at-home wife on his one salary despite not being hardworking or exceptional in any way.
"Gran Torino" is probably the movie you are thinking of.
Do one on Gen X and the movies, actors, music and current X leaders!
The great musicians and social activists of that time weren't Boomers. They were silent gen and older.
Thank you for acknowledging the separation between Boomers and Gen-Xers.
We are not them.
Buzzfeed -- the same place that tried to make "cheugy" a thing a while back -- has now posted several of their lists this week that are starting to conflate Boomers with Gen X, and suggest that Gen X = MAGA Trumpers. No. Absolutely not. Not even close.
Is Obama a boomer or a GenX? I mean the starting/ending years of these gens are kinda all over the place
People tend to forget that generation between boomers and millennials and I know Obama was a rather “young” politician.
Obama is on the cusp of Boomer/GenX. Born 1961. Generation Jones I guess (that's a thing).
I was thinking the same thing. But, for the most part Gen X has been kind of ignored in the generation conversation. Suits me fine although it's annoying when we get grouped with Boomers/Millennials
Obama is a baby boomer born 1961 he was just young when he ran for president.
Obama is a boomer born a week before my mother, 1961
Probably Gen X but he was a boomer at heart
He’s part of the Baby Boom.
When it comes to relationships with older generations, I consider myself lucky: My father turned 80 this year, and while he occasionally struggles with some technologies, it’s rarely because of a dismissive attitude or lack of trying. He’s also been a real estate lawyer and politically active for decades, so he’s arguably more “worldly” about most things than I am. Part of the problem for any generation is when they refuse to adapt/move on as a matter of misguided principle.
Your dad isn't a baby boomer though. Isn't he part of the silent generation?
@@9395gb I know he's not a boomer. I was speaking more generally in terms of living alongside an older generation and how that can impact both sides (for better or worse).
My Dad's in his early 80's as well, and I feel the same. He really tries to grow and adapt and though we sometimes debate each other on certain issues, I've never felt like he's condescending to my generation (Gen X) or younger generations. Maybe that's because he was a teacher for so long, so he was coming in contact with the way younger people thought all the time. Now he's got his grandkids.
@@Erica-en2qz That “coming into contact“ aspect is crucial. I work in a public library system, and fairly often we run into customers - usually older people - who have substantial difficulty with technological concepts that younger generations take for granted. In some cases there are fully legitimate reasons for that difficulty (financial constraints limiting personal access to computers, newly arrived immigrants with bigger issues to deal with, serious health problems limiting time spent on learning/activities, ect…), but when there seems to be no real barrier to them gaining that knowledge besides the oft-repeated excuse of “I’m this-many-years-old”, our patience only goes so far. Sounds kind of harsh, I admit, but when you hear it repeatedly week after week, it throws the digital divide into sharper focus without always offering real solutions. It’s frustrating for everyone.
I still see it as more of a class division than an age defined one. If you came from wealth, or had great-grandparents/grandparents that passed that wealth on to their kids, maybe this "boomer" classification holds more water. If you were still working class or near the poverty line, these advantages of the post-war era weren't always readily available to you, or the expectations of materiality and property were not thrust upon you. I know plenty of boomers who see the value in collectivism, who try to elevate or amplify the voices of younger generations to generate equitable and positive change. Yes, there are always those who gripe about the latest generation for how they communicate, or the ones who embody the very persona discussed in the video - material-driven, libertarian self reliance, and a desire to uphold capitalist profit over shared public goods and services. But in my experience they are typically those who were born into money, or who exploited the dot com boom in the late 1990s, thinking that their "brilliance" at cashing in on the stock market at just the right time made them exceptionally smarter than others. For the average lower-middle class household, that is simply not the case.
You're so right.
In all fairness though, the two generations who came of age in the West during the Cold War helped bring about a truly monumental transformation of Western society: gender equality, racial integration (somewhat), decolonization, students' rights, workers' rights, patients' rights, tenants' rights, LGBT rights, dismantling all manner of rigid sterotypes and barriers and also creating an unprecedented explosion of creativity and freedom and exploration and experimentation. Much of what we take for granted in Western society today is thanks to their efforts and their choices. Now they're all old and grumpy (or dead), but boy, what a time to have been young in a rich and democratic country in the 1970s compared to any generation that came before!
… I am a late boomer who grew up wanting to be a hippie and wanting to protest against the Vietnam war. So I started protesting it at 12 when the older boomers were 22. Like millions of us, I am super liberal and have always been super liberal and I get more liberal as I get older. Stereotypes always fail, even if theyre funny.
I think this whole notion of “young liberal, old conservative” is a unique narrative to a certain set of boomers.
Most people don’t pick an ideology based on their 401k but because they have genuinely held ideological beliefs.
I’m with you except I’m from the previous generation, the Silent Generation who did protest the War in Vietnam, for women’s rights. I was inspired by JFK who became president when I was a senior in high school.
@@rachelgarber1423 That was such an explosive time to be young. I bet his assassination was devastating for you. I was in first grade when he was killed and the principal’s voice came over the brown speaker box in the classroom to tell us the president was dead. My teacher cried. That was awful. So I raised my hand and tried to comfort her and said we should all be sad if we’re Democrats or if we’re Republicans. Because I knew my parents were Republicans (bah). But that just made her cry more and give me a big hug.
I honestly don’t know what it is that boomers don’t get about how difficult things are for the younger generations now. Have they forgotten how to do math? They live in the same world we do. They pay rent/mortgages, buy cars, gas and groceries just like everyone else. How do you live day-to-day in this county watching your children and grandchildren struggle and come to the conclusion that they’re not working hard enough? Maybe they should stop taking over younger generations and put pen to paper and realize for themselves how much better they had it, instead of telling us how much better we do.
I honestly think it's mostly just gaslighting. It's just an act, a way to be dismissive and condescending.
They used too many illegal substances.
every generation has wonderful hard working people and also lazy assholes. Every generation had both hardships and benefits that other generations can never understand. Pretending 1 generation is “better” is stupid. We all just grew up differently which obviously results in different values and perspectives, but everyone is doing the best they can with what they had
The take is always so on point i swear
Always so enlightening on issues you had probably dismissed in the past. It's a beautiful channel.
Not really, you might just be a fanatic if you can’t find any personal narratives in their takes.
I remember reading an essay by Pliny the Elder, who lived during the Roman Republic. He was constantly bemoaning the fact that the younger generations do not respect their elders and do not have sufficient gravitas for the rules and customs of Roman Culture. He was writing this circa 200 BCE. This video’s assertion that generational conflict is a human condition rather than something unique is very true-as proven by Pliny the Elder’s woes over 2,000 years ago. The real take away is to make sure we have empathy, learn from past mistakes, and treat others the way we would like to be treated. Only then can we actually be better.
It might be different for Millenials but for Zoomers, part of why 'Ok Boomer' took off is because it's an expression of our feeling of powerlessness in the face of more powerful but sometimes wrong or harmful people
Sometimes all you can say is 'ok' to your racist grandparents
(Again, obviously not all boomers but it's also a very common experience for young people)
Dude... their inability to accept accountability and unwillingness to be wrong has been their drive since forever. They live in a constant state of saying fuck you to their kids and grandkids.
Yeah I remember seeing a bumper sticker and I'm paraphrasing here. I was one of those hippies who fought against the system but now I work for the system..
Boomers grew up in an era where the customer is always right. They simply can't understand any other concept because of it.
At 7:02, you talk about The Trial of the Chicago 7 as among "stories about the Baby Boomer generation," and... there's just one problem. None of the 7 defendants were Boomers. They were all members of the Silent Generation. So was Martin Luther King. In fact, most activists in the Civil Rights and anti-war movements were Silent Generation. The Baby Boomers on average were way too young to be involved in political activism, but they took credit for it because, what, they partied at some hippie music concerts. The Silent Generation grew up in the Great Depression and World War II. The Baby Boomers grew up in economic prosperity and peacetime. They didn't understand hunger or conflict on a global scale. So, their parents who struggled to provide a better life for them unintentionally created a generation of spoiled brats who believed in "change" on a superficial level but actively voted for policies that personally benefited them.
I think this fight between generation is nonsense.
A poor boomer is still a poor boomer like a poor millennial or Gen Z. do you think someone from Gen Z who was born into a silver lining have something in common with another Gez Z who was born into poverty? This is a class struggle. and honestly I love The Take, but this generation video feel empty
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Please make a video about things happening in Iran right now, the struggle and the purpose they have tells a lot about women right and harsh abused that women are facing in Middle East.
The impact of Iranian women work on the general view and definition of feminism cannot be ignored.
and a thought-provoking slogan Women,Life, Freedom and the message it holds .
This is REALLY important because The biggest war for feminism is happening in Iran, right now
If you’re living on earth and you’re being silent , you don’t get to talk about women rights anymore!
Likely won't as it's not "pop" culture but maybe if we can get them to somehow link it to narratives of Iranian women on-screen or something? Thinking of y'all. Keep fighting I know that feels like a stupid thing to say as an American we put you in this shit decades ago but don't stop fighting please.
Probably not a good idea
@@mewesquirrel6720 Well I like to know the reason :)
@@fxxzan because this is an American channel and getting involved would be dangerous.
Subjects like that aren't really what this channel is about.
The thing is, most of the people you mentioned here were NOT Boomers.
All three stars of Easy Rider? Not Boomers.
The men known as The Chicago 7? None were Boomers.
Joplin? Morrison? The Beatles? Hendrix?
NONE were Boomers.
The founders of The Black Panthers?
Not Boomers.
Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway, the stars of Bonnie and Clyde?
Not Boomers.
They were ALL from "The Silent Generation" They were ALL born BEFORE World War II which doesn't make them Boomers.
You should probably delete this video
Would love to see a video on gen x
My heart jumped when I spotted the snippet of "The Special Relationship". Such an underrated film. I wrote my Bachelor's Thesis on The Representation of Tony Blair in Peter Morgan Productions. He is not only the creator of The Crown (TB appears in season 5!), which he partly based on his play The Audience (in which TB in included in some productions) but also wrote THREE films with TB as a major character. The Deal (covering the gentlemen's agreement between Blair and Brown), The Queen (Oscar winning film about how TB saved the monarchy) and finally The Special Relationship (TB's downfall). Everytime Michael Sheen was cast as Tony Blair, I swaer there was a time my brain could not tell who's Blair and who's Sheen :D
A lot of criticism of boomers, at least from this video seems to stem from the idea individualism. I don’t think individualism itself is the problem as long as it’s not at the expense of anyone
Dividing people into rigid depications like ,generations´doesn't help anybody. We are all individuals or at least strive to be. Boomer this and Millenial that is taking away the singularity and forces everybody into a box to suffocate. People are people, sometimes they do good and sometimes they don't.
Let's talk about how boomers raised a generation of neglected latch key kids that their parents had more of a role in parenting than they actually did and how they failed miserably as grandparents and have nothing to do with their own grandchildren. The Boomer's parents were free child caregivers for them but they refused to do the same for their own grabdkids. They are the most entitled generation ever. Living in the house their parents left them for free but doing nothing for their own children. They poisoned the planet and ruined everything. They are actively taking away the rights they pretended to fight for.
They are the most cynical-in-power, self-righteous generation. Ugh.
You ve never lived under the power of anyone elaez so how you would you know if any other gen is better or worse
I have some difficulty with this analysis, specifically that it assumes generations happen one after the other rather than all sort of shoved together. What I mean by this is that we don't have WW2/Greatest Gen giving birth to Silent who give birth to Boomers and on down the line. All of those lines get mixed up and sort of leap frogged, particularly as having children after 30 becomes more the norm. I've never met a single Boomer whose parents were the Silent generation and I don't know a lot of Gen Xers whose parents were Boomers. That's not to say that doesn't exist, but rather to point out that a fair bit of this analysis relies on parental cultural markers and then mis-identifies what generation those parents are likely to be from.
Another issue is that this suggests that Boomers were the ones leading movements in the 60s rather than a mixture of Boomers and Silents. Given that the oldest boomers would have only hit their 20s midway through the 60s, there's a strong argument to be made that most actual leadership (outside of youth organizations) would have been from the previous generation. If you're going to talk about boomer myth-making, this is a pretty big fact to key into as it undermines the credibility of boomers as the civil rights generation. Sure, some of them took part and even rose to prominence but they were by no means the majority. They were, however, pretty uniformly hitting their stride as the 80s kicked off.
This would all make them less a group of former progressives who "sold out" and more a group who benefited from and became the architects of the 80s, fully embracing personal "betterment" and cut throat wealth building from the jump.
Yeah, you're right, I was arguing about how we were talking about how we were generalizing generations with an understanding that goes beyond human logic, especially when it comes to having children (while it was true that compared to today, you could be ab;e to have children at a younger age, that was simply not always the case, as there were plenty of Bommers and even silents who actually delayed having children until they felt they were financially secure enough, and many were even attending college). Also, quite funny enough, many Silents had a baby boomer as just their sibling rather than a child, as the former was born at a time when birth rates in the countries most likely to feel its effect (the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand), fell to an all-time low because families were unable to afford caring for children and the war had caused many men to leave for long periods of time. This means that if they didn't manage to wait for so long as to only wound up having one child and wanted to have more, we wound up having cases where many baby booms were five, six, seven, or even a decade younger than their siblings, and any generational conflicts between the two, in this case, was less parent-child conflicts and more of a sibling rivalry, hence another possible reason for demonizing baby boomers (it could have been the leftovers of what was apparently a sibling rivalry, as you can't be able to demonize your child, but you could with a sibling).
One thing to not dismiss (which was) is the turning point of the 1980 presidential election and the "Reagan democrats". Some of them were part of the 60's counterculture, but by 1980 had become part of the establishment. If you can, watch the movie Pump Up the Volume to hear the character played by Christian Slater express his thoughts on his parents generation.
Very well done presentation! As a Boomer, lucky enough to have Gen X, Millennial, and younger co-workers, friends, and students, I applaud your conclusion!
Id love to see a video like this on the "greatest/silent" generation.
What is that?
@@sarahcristina4656 The Greatest Generation refers to people who were of age during WW2, the Silent Generation were children and thus technically too old to be Boomers. Given that both are almost dead by now, It would make sense to talk about them soon
One thing my grandfather taught me is "there is no such word as can't". This from a Marine that was told he would never walk again after an injury on a beach assault in WWII and he did walk again after great effort. This has served me well in life. The mantra of Gen-whiners is "I can't".
I agree with the overall sentiment of understanding and sharing of knowledge between the generations. Ultimately, that's the most important thing we can attempt to do while the Boomers are still here. BUT, I think this video overlooks what most videos like this overlook: the pervasiveness and role of propaganda and social engineering.
There needs to be more George Carlin in The Take videos.
Why was drinking milk w dinner a thing?
I think hippies and woke have a lot of similarities, peace and love are really good principles, but in practice boomers got mocked as naive and yes, for boomers they seem to have meant something quite specific, to a certain extent removing a lot of hierarchical structures but in other ways becoming more individualistic and attacking the support that those structures actually gave people.
Woke in a similar way was about highlighting injustice, but in practice it gets sneered at by a reactionary press and used to justify old school 80s choices. There is also a bullying aspect to wokeness though, twitter mobbing etc encourages conformity and division.
Woke is a totally meaningless catchall used by people who are afraid to use people's sexualities and race as insults anymore.
@@jordanloux3883 exactly, like hippy it could imply certain attitudes, but really it means how the younger generation differs, so it has become an insulting way to say young as well
Guys, I usually love your videos, but this was a miss. The Boomer-problem is way wider, It’s apparent in Europe (including the pos-Soviet word) for sure. Our boomer generation had way different generational trauma and those traumas experienced in the US ain’t applicable here. Neither Vietnam, neither the Watergate, neither the hippie movement, neither the racial tensions and the movements regarding racial tensions had any significant consequences on the people living in Prague, Warszawa, Vienna or Budapest.
Yet boomers, more likely boomer conservatives make up most of our political and economical elite, yet intergénérationnel tensions are rising high, yet “I had a house at your age” is here, yet selfish voting patterns are evident here as well (just think about Brexit).
Look outside the US and dig a little deeper please!
This is an interesting angle, an "International" analysis would have to look deeper than reflections on pop culture.
Imagine this question, and really let it set in: When did our elders stop being a source of wisdom?
I think the answer is in the internet age.
The generation that repeated to me " You can't believe what you see on TV" now gets their "news" from FOX. As a child of the internet I grew up without that elder wisdom, it's normal for me and I never knew it to miss it. The boomers actually experienced the loss and it broke them. Worldwide they've embraced misinformation and ignorance .
Boomers had real parents. Parents that knew what the world was. They were either of the Greatest Generation or the Silent Generation. They’d seen the hardest times that this world had to serve up short of a zombie apocalypse and they survived the world with dignity AND they didn’t turn their offspring (Boomers) into sniveling, fragile pussies which has been a defining feature of every generation to follow.
Correct
The Boomer mindset was one shaped and meant to exist in times of prosperity and an easy way of life.
Yeah, because living in times of civil rights unrest, a brutal war raging halfway across the world that was killing young Americans men and boys by the hundreds every day and violent, bloody riots breaking out in the streets of just about every major city was so easy.
My roommate was "so impressed" says it all. ok non-boomer
It seems to me that the whole “ok boomer” meme came as a response to all theses boomers blaming new generations for every bad thing in the world, as if they were the last good generation.
They were the good generation compared to millennials
Those who think their bettering sociality make it worse . At least start with the man or woman in the mirror
I think this is thing of demographics and just different generations. The Baby Boomer cohort was huge and yes dominated the culture in my youth (I am generation x). I always preferred the movies and music from the Baby Boomer times while I was growing up. But no matter what each generation will have issues with the ones of the past and the ones coming after. As you said it is a "human" thing. What happened is that individual needs and desires will often win over idealism. No matter who ends up in power it will likely still continue.
Every generation will pass on both good and bad traits/trends/thoughts and world views. Most parents want a better life for their children. Hindsight will tell us where we failed. Wish I could be alive to see how Gen Z will fare with their ideologies and be criticized by the generations following them. Take what is good, improve upon it, learn from the mistakes, try not to sell out, but forgive yourselves when you go for the money. PS. Great sponsor- Masterclass! Glad you at least learned to make scrambled eggs from a boomer and got monetized with a sponsor ship selling multiple generation learning! 🤔
Yeah except that Boomers where the first generation (statistically speaking) to leave a worse world for their children than the one they enjoyed…
Go to college and you'll be fine, kids.
P.S. A college degree is not a requirement in most disciplines. Common sense, hustle, professionalism, and collaboration are.
The most selfish and spoiled generation.
Boomers got the most neoliberal brain poisoning.
I think what always puts me off is if people put hippies in the boomer generation. Yes some boomers were born in the late 40s, but the core of the boomers were born the 50s. In the years of a Generation change there are always people who will be more influenced by events, circumstances and experiences that put them in one or the other generation and not the exact year. Boomers are children of superabundance and materialism. Children born during WW2 were the ones who participated mostly in the hippie and anti war movement and they were influenced by people who were mostly influenced by WW1 and the Great Depression. Yes a lot of the boomers participated in the anti war movement and are influenced by the ideas of the 60s but participating and creating a movement are two different things.
As a Boomer, I thought we were heading in the right direction until around 1980--the Reagan years.
I wish you could have a character analysis to Brenda Chenowith from Six Feet Under because she's very intriguing and complex character and I love this show personally
Kids of boomers are born in the mid 60's to 70's and are gen x not gen y.
I was raid by my boomer grandma because my gen x mother couldn’t. I’m gen z and my grandmas 2 sons have done well in life but my mom and me have done horribly I wonder if there is connection there that us women have become mentally wrecked so hard being raised by same woman. Prioritizing sons maybe. 🤡
The truth he major leaders I'm sixties were from the silent generation which were born and during the depression and their war was Korea. Don Draper would be listed as a member generation, and the greatest generation the once who should be blamed for the boomers.
The best anti-boomer meme was "old Economy Steve". He had it better than his parents AND his kids.
2 whole generations and have y'all change the image? At some point can't keep blaming the boomers just saying
Ofc the boomer struggle is human. What bothers me is that they get to be more human than the rest of us.
Why should that bother you? Stop comparing yourself to others and focus on yourself.
@@petrichor499 ooooh. I bet that made you feel better? I feel like you're not going to see the irony in telling me to mind myself 🤣🤣
wait, with all the video essays, they've made/uploaded, I can't remember if The Take has covered female nerds, geeks &fangirls, female characters that love comic books, sci-fi, horror, &fantasy, basically it almost still feels like that if they're not regarded as a love interest option, it feels like they're in the background/the side-kicks, although maybe it's because that used to be the character job for male nerds, geeks, fanboys atleast 50 years go, long story short, I was very happy when I watched OnlyLeigh's fangirls youtube videos,
Harold and Maude showed the connection between baby boomers and really old people... This is the silliest analysis you've ever done.
I'm Generation X and I cook in a restaurant. What I want to know is why Baby Boomers always have to have their food "Well Done" or "Crisp".... they're all on blood pressure medication yet they keep eating deep fried junk 🤔🤷
Millenial here... "excess" is not something I can relate to...
As a child of boomer’s I’ve always despised the “ok boomer” term. I’ve always had tremendous respect for my dad’s generation- my dad marched in Alabama and helped people register to vote for the first time in Mississippi before he became a civil rights lawyer. I owe most of my social conscience to my parents, but they were still at least traditional enough to say respect for your elders was important.
This is a very USA-centric view of "boomers".
for generation that is all about peace and love....my parents said "SIKE.....GOTCHA BxxxH"
if they could find enough references for it, they could at least think about covering the male feminist characters for a video essay, &truth be told not just the portrayals of them, but how to tell the difference between which guy is lying about being pro-feminism(as sadly it has happened historically) &which guys are genuine,
I'm a boomer and none of those things. I object to being portrayed like that. I'm from a mixed marriage, was a social worker and haven't been able to work for 25 years because my disability got worse. I'm 60 and was born in 1962. I'm autistic and have no use for the rules of society. I know no one around my age who is like you portrayed.
I'm a part South Asian Indian and Ashkenazi Jewish non binary woman.
To tell the truth I feel a lot of ageism and ableism right now. A rise in antisemitism and anti Asian violence and I am both.
Yes the vid was a bit too general and vague man.
Surely gen x are the children of boomers not millennials?
Both
So many of our Boomer parents got married as teens/early 20s and had Gen X. They they bailed on us and had second and third millennial families. This is yet another one of the stupid problems with pitting generations against each other: we're each other's siblings. We have more in common than not.
It’s both but I think two generations difference is the standard. Of course there are plenty of boomers who had Gen X and Gen Z kids as well.
@@mastersnet18 you're right I wasn't thinking. It's cos I was born 1980 and am just gen x. So it confused me as to why until I remembered 1981 and up are considered millennials, thinking it was 2000 and up.
@@DS-uh6ss I think it comes from lack of memory as to what we all was like as teenagers and a bit a jealousy and hypocrisy. The boomer generation invented the teenager as almost the sub culture it is today. Its ironic they don't get along.
These generation features dont apply to all countries... my 'boomer' parents were born and grew up in a dictatorship, and this was in western Europe. They had a VERY different experience than this one that you portray. It bothers me how generally this topic is presented assuming all people born in between 1946 and 1964 fall under this umbrella and characteristics 🤨🤨🤨
if you are expecting English-speaking media to cover non-English-speaking countries, you need to revise your expectations, because that doesn't really happen.
Their takes are only going to cover America.
These generational terms are only meant for Americans.
A tip: all countries have Boomers, it's the years that might change. Example: in Spain the Boomers are roughly 10 years later than Americans. So late 50s to mid 70s, more or less.