Family Truckster: The History of the Station Wagon

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  • Опубліковано 17 січ 2023
  • A classic car connaisseur tells the general history of the car that was the cornerstone of suburban life, the stationwagon! Who bought these estate cars with wood panneling, why were they so popular and what eventually replaced them? And what is up with their sporty version, the shooting brake?
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  • @ukupunkrock3981
    @ukupunkrock3981 Рік тому +343

    Funny how perception is so different over time and space... in 1990 Germany I swapped my boring, uncool VW T3 Transporter turned campervan for a giant, super cool US-made '79 Ford LTD station wagon (insert exploding van life hipster heads here). The Ford had a V8 and 140 hp as well as pathetic mileage, and I loved it to the death. Thank you Ed for another, specially great episode!!

    • @Raptor3388
      @Raptor3388 Рік тому +16

      I imagine the comfort and driveability was a vast improvement over the T3…

    • @bradevans7935
      @bradevans7935 Рік тому +9

      @@Raptor3388 You're probably right - IIRC, acceleration of a T3 could be reliably measured with a sundial. That said, all rear-engine VW's are pretty cool.

    • @Name-ot3xw
      @Name-ot3xw Рік тому +4

      Volvo and Subaru wagons are still all the rage here with the suburban WASP types.
      The ones that haven't changed over to the mini SUV/large sedan trend.

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  Рік тому +18

      Fruit is always more tasty when it's forbidden :-)

    • @jochenstacker7448
      @jochenstacker7448 Рік тому +1

      And that same T3 will go for €20-30000 in Germany in nice condition. Wrecked ones (needing engine, transmission, body and suspension work) will cost €5000.

  • @debbienye6002
    @debbienye6002 Рік тому +89

    Back in the day (early 80s), when my car needed brakes after they caught fire (that is another story) I needed something to drive. I found a Vista Cruiser for $75, and it was an overheating beast, but it lasted just long enough until my car was repaired. Ahhh, the Vista Cruiser. Thanks for the memories.

    • @kenik2023
      @kenik2023 Рік тому +3

      A running car for $75.
      Damn I miss those days❤️❤️❤️

  • @blue04mx53
    @blue04mx53 Рік тому +78

    I remember in the 70's and 80's going to demolition derbies. The Station wagons were the car of choice because they could really batter other cars with that back end.

    • @edpoe4622
      @edpoe4622 Рік тому +1

      Sadly, I have killed several very nice wagons in my demo derby days.

    • @blue04mx53
      @blue04mx53 Рік тому +5

      @@edpoe4622 They died a hero's death!

    • @WhiteTrashMotorsports
      @WhiteTrashMotorsports Рік тому

      The chevy round back (clamshell) wagons ruled the derbies.

  • @yaboymintz
    @yaboymintz Рік тому +219

    My friend's girlfriend used to have this big ol boxy Volvo station wagon. I believe it was a 245 from the 80s. Thing was beat to hell and back and had well over 500k miles on it. Looked like it had been repainted at least once. But it ran without any major issues and was built like a tank.

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg Рік тому +32

      A Volvo station wagon is just a Nokia.

    • @youtubecarspottersguide1
      @youtubecarspottersguide1 Рік тому +2

      not todays Volvos ..luxury cars

    • @Low760
      @Low760 Рік тому +2

      @@youtubecarspottersguide1 They were always luxury in Australia. I love my 740t wagon.

    • @Nimmo1492
      @Nimmo1492 Рік тому +10

      Volvo 200 series cars are absolutely indestructable

    • @michaelleoanrd194
      @michaelleoanrd194 Рік тому +10

      I started calling those 240 wagons "battle wagons" in the early 2000s. They had a way if turning up in weird places like skate parks or camp sites. They were always being absolutely abused and just trucking along. I wanted to get one and put knobby tires on it.

  • @nautiloi
    @nautiloi Рік тому +466

    "because French station wagons break down all the time" ah a man of culture I see

    • @milfordcivic6755
      @milfordcivic6755 Рік тому

      European vehicles are notorious for poor reliability. That has nothing to do with an attack on culture. Its a fact.

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Рік тому +26

      Ed is a _knowledgeable_ man of culture!

    • @puebespuebes8589
      @puebespuebes8589 Рік тому +7

      @@61rampy65 we do not have station wagon in France, well we had some but they where usually quite small, almost all french car had a hatch so they never where that popular.

    • @methyethyl56
      @methyethyl56 Рік тому +11

      @@puebespuebes8589 tu es sérieux quand tu dis ça?

    • @dreisternehof
      @dreisternehof Рік тому +9

      @@puebespuebes8589 Citroen CX Break was a giant! Nearly the dimensions of US Station Wagons.
      And they lasted Not very Long 'till rust killed the Body...

  • @adrianwilliamson6861
    @adrianwilliamson6861 Рік тому +32

    Actually we do call them station wagons in Australia. Once they were very popular.
    I always thought they were called 'station' after our huge outback farms...that are called 'stations' . Such as a 'sheep station'. In USA called 'ranch' and uk 'estate'...all after their farms. So your train station theory was new to me.
    very interesting ...and great episode.

  • @eyerollthereforeiam1709
    @eyerollthereforeiam1709 Рік тому +37

    Ah, crap, Ed! Now I'm going to have nightmares about the 70's coming back to get me! Seriously, another great episode.

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  Рік тому +4

      Wait until you'll see Ford put the wood back on the Navigators and Expeditions and then we'll talk!

    • @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain
      @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain Рік тому +2

      @@EdsAutoReviews and the salesmen wearing polyester suits??

  • @OmarGreeneotraPedroVerde
    @OmarGreeneotraPedroVerde Рік тому +24

    I learned to drive in a '69 Ford Fairlane 500 wagon. As heavy as it was it could still move out. These were the days when you could order your car just the way you wanted it built. Dad dropped a 351C into for towing purposes. It would smoke the tires! Loved that car.

    • @sunayakong8537
      @sunayakong8537 Рік тому +1

      We had a sky blue one my dad bought and fixed up. We drove the hell out of that vehicle…😂

    • @scottjs5207
      @scottjs5207 Рік тому +1

      The car I just inherited got a 351C in it. Though it's the CJ. I've never heard the end of my late father talking about how that thing came out too little too late... and Ford butchered it with the Mod motors.

  • @josefacundoabiega6146
    @josefacundoabiega6146 Рік тому +51

    In Argentina, the model is known as "rural" (probably because it was suitable for rural areas). However, the Renault 18 Break was very popular and a lot of people call them break after that.

    • @juanignaciosanchez3320
      @juanignaciosanchez3320 Рік тому +3

      Me parece que tiene mas que ver con el "falcon rural"

    • @HIDHIFDB
      @HIDHIFDB Рік тому +1

      En Mexico se les llama guayin por la palabra inglesa "wagon" aunque tambien les llaman tipo carroza por las carrozas funebres.

    • @colombianguy8194
      @colombianguy8194 Рік тому

      Renault 12 and 18 breaks were popular in Colombia. We have a Renault assembly plant here.

    • @matmcd
      @matmcd Рік тому +1

      In Brazil they call it "perua", which is a slang name to call a housewife.
      Maybe because it was a good car for them to drive with kids.

  • @Theover4000
    @Theover4000 Рік тому +62

    My dad bought a CTS-V wagon back when they were offered, I fell in love with station wagons because of it, I love them more than I can describe 😂

    • @23yearsand76
      @23yearsand76 Рік тому

      They have a Look/Face only a Mother would love.

    • @Theover4000
      @Theover4000 Рік тому

      @@23yearsand76 true, but they’re really fun at 165 mph

    • @23yearsand76
      @23yearsand76 Рік тому

      @@Theover4000 165mph in a wagon would just be scary

    • @Theover4000
      @Theover4000 Рік тому +2

      @@23yearsand76 You kidding? It was amazing! He let me ride shotgun, when I was 14, and we did 165, at least, that's what I saw before I had to pull myself back into the seat. I'll admit, it **was** dangerous driving, but my dad's a bit of a nutcase, so it was really, really fun.

    • @tpolerex7282
      @tpolerex7282 Рік тому +3

      That was a badass wagon! America’s answer to the AMG 63’s and RS8/10’s sport estates from Europe.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Рік тому +14

    Enjoyed the video. One sort of related aspect is why Americans call the cargo area in the back of a sedan a trunk. Back in those original station wagon days, people traveled with luggage that was usually in the form of a trunk. Really a steamer trunk. Steamer being a ship. Trunks were enormous. And heavy. And made back in the times before luggage makers discovered the wheel. When put on a car, or wagon, they were stuck on the back. So the transition was simple.

  • @Primus54
    @Primus54 Рік тому +80

    I’m the proud owner of a Buick Regal TourX and love it. So few were sold that I often get asked what it is and compliments on its styling. It is so much more comfortable than an SUV.

    • @williamscoggin1509
      @williamscoggin1509 Рік тому +3

      I don't remember ever hearing about that model. Cool that you own one!
      👍🏻

    • @heiner71
      @heiner71 Рік тому +3

      Those are looking nice!

    • @marcusdamberger
      @marcusdamberger Рік тому +9

      I think this is one of the the very last models of Opel's GM imported to the U.S. before they sold Opel off to PSA. I think the other was the Buick Cascada convertible. Both really nicely styled cars I must say. The Regal TourX apparently drives really well too.

    • @melv1n_official
      @melv1n_official Рік тому +5

      Oh geez! Buick Regal TourX is one of my favorite wagons! Looks beautiful especially with that burgundy paint! 😍 Too bad Buick goes all in with crossovers. 😔

    • @Primus54
      @Primus54 Рік тому

      @@melv1n_official I love the burgundy as well… it was the color of the first one I ever saw on the road. But when I laid my eyes on the white color, I was hooked. The white is VERY white and really contrasts nicely with the black wheel opening trim. Cheers!

  • @tonylindsey8912
    @tonylindsey8912 Рік тому +10

    I used to own a 1953 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon (model 79R). Having restored the wood myself, I can assure the world that the wood was STRUCTURAL, unlike other late-era woodie wagons that were metal with some wood attached. The C and D-pillars were seasoned Northern Ash, which was the only thing holding up the roof. The back panels of the tailgate and part of the doors were Mahogany.
    I used to love sleeping in the back when traveling, because when I'd wake up in the morning, I'd look up and see all that LUMBER above me. Gorgeous!

  • @Kiddman32
    @Kiddman32 Рік тому +66

    This is undoubtedly one of the most entertaining channels on UA-cam! While I'm not really a "car guy", I have a little interest in the history of said wallet-eaters, err, vehicles.
    But the thing that makes THIS channel so fun is the host! Wonderful sense of humor built into every video along with the solid historical content!
    I jump on each new video made here as soon as I see it!

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Рік тому +5

      Well said, and your comment deserves a zillion 'likes'.

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  Рік тому +6

      Thank you so much! Comments like yours encourage me to keep on going!

    • @cristitanase6130
      @cristitanase6130 Рік тому +4

      Indeed. Both me and my wife enjoy it so much despite not being too much interested in cars.

  • @davidfrend
    @davidfrend Рік тому +108

    As a wagon lover in the US, it's so hard to find good wagons. I love Volvo V50, a rebadged Ford Focus Wagon with a 5 cylinder engine, but it's starting to have more and more problems that are probably going to cost more than the car itself is worth. Wagons are honestly the perfect car for me as an artist and woodworker, because I can fold the back seats down and it's pretty much a pre-chicken tax small pickup that I can fit a full sheet of plywood into, and then after I've unloaded it, I can flip the seats up and my friends and I can go out together. It's such a perfect style for someone like me, and it's becoming increasingly rare here in the US, and that makes me so sad.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL Рік тому +7

      Ya, even a smaller wagon so the handling isn't so tippy.
      90's Subarus were the last I've seen that fit the bill.

    • @Sonny_McMacsson
      @Sonny_McMacsson Рік тому +13

      There were quite a few offered here until about 2020, when the numbers took a dive. There are still a couple normal wagons but most are "ruggedized" with pseudo-off road SUV baggage I don't want. If I weren't specifically looking for one I'd not even have known they exist since they got about zero marketing while SUVs are shoved down everyone's throats.

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg Рік тому +1

      A bit more than a rebadged focus.

    • @baddog9320
      @baddog9320 Рік тому +1

      5 cyl?
      Never heard of such an engine.
      You didn't do good are basic car exam did you?

    • @JeremiahClickyTheAvianHellam
      @JeremiahClickyTheAvianHellam Рік тому +24

      @@baddog9320 5 cylinder egines exist. Maybe you should do research before you try acting smart.

  • @bossfan49
    @bossfan49 Рік тому +6

    "You think you hate it now, but wait till you drive it!" METALLIC PEA!!

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics Рік тому +17

    Come on Ed. Get one of those wood panel Roadmasters and we will throw in a can of pledge

  • @robertqueberg4612
    @robertqueberg4612 Рік тому +21

    Hello Ed,
    You have come up with another gem from days gone bye. I started to drive Mom’s 1960 Rambler station wagon with a “six-banger, and three on the tree”, and was glad to have it to drive. Your reviews, are always a grand combination of information and entertainment, with a bit of nostalgia whipped in.

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 Рік тому +2

    When I was a kid in Canada we had a 76 Impala wagon. Apparently my European grand parents loved it!

  • @charlespascual5508
    @charlespascual5508 Рік тому +3

    I'm a boomer. My dad always owned station wagons (I learned to drive in Pontiac Catalina wagon & drove it on dates in high school with the girl I later married). We owned full-size and mid-size wagons & a mini-van in the 70s & 80s to haul our kids and stuff. I now own a BMW 330xi "Sport Wagon" (yeah, it's a wagon). Great car. Drives like my wife's 328i sedan but has plenty of room for golf clubs, Christmas trees, you name it. The Europeans have the right idea - they are ubiquitous over there. Alas, my 2018 is the last year BMW imported them to North America - so I'm doing everything to keep my wagon running forever (or until BMW starts selling them here again).

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy Рік тому +1

      Wife should have spent a few more dollars and got the 335.

  • @blue04mx53
    @blue04mx53 Рік тому +15

    I really liked the last bit comaparing the different body types. It reminded me of the question. Is a hot dog a sandwich? Is a hatchback a station wagon?

  • @peterburgess5974
    @peterburgess5974 Рік тому +14

    My 1991 Land Rover Defender is a 'County Station Wagon' by definition of Land Rover. Weirdly, this particular station wagon was, for a while, used to ferry people from Theydon Bois tube station, on London's Central Line ,to a paint ball 'experience' in nearby Abridge. Unlike most estate cars here in the UK, my particular Land Rover was by its use, a real station wagon - proper job. Thanks and power to you!

    • @ferdinand12390
      @ferdinand12390 Рік тому +1

      in my country, for some reason, the Grand Cherokee was or is considered a station wagon, i had a WJ (that i miss a lot) and when reading the paperwork, the tax papers classified it as one, weird enough.

    • @patrickcorcoran4828
      @patrickcorcoran4828 Рік тому +1

      Transporting people to a paintball field is a noble purpose for any vehicle.

    • @peterburgess5974
      @peterburgess5974 Рік тому +1

      @@patrickcorcoran4828 🤣

  • @chrisbell52310
    @chrisbell52310 Рік тому +5

    In high school I had a station wagon. We nicknamed it the Family truckster, Grocery go-getter, $#!%box, classic. It was a Malibu classic SW.

  • @volktales7005
    @volktales7005 Рік тому +7

    A buddy of mine always has interesting cars. My favourite was his '65 Ford Galaxie Country Sedan, which was a base model full size wagon. This was about six years ago and we had good times cruising in that barge!

  • @Jon205Gentry
    @Jon205Gentry Рік тому +7

    The French used to call their breaks Familiale when there’s 3 benches. Check the 505 Familiale which was the largest (European) station at it’s time with the Ford Granada Estation break wagon touring cruiser Kombi.

  • @shawnn6926
    @shawnn6926 Рік тому +18

    Wish I could do more than 1 thumbs up. Your videos are always fun, entertaining and educational.

  • @charliebigbear1630
    @charliebigbear1630 Рік тому +1

    When I was a kid I was graced with the luxury of a 1984 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser powered by a custom-built 5.7 diesel V8. Dad scored her at the dealership he worked at. I got to see most of the United States in the backseat of that gorgeous lady. When everyone was going to minivans we stayed strong with that great American Steel Beast. We finally sold her in 96 when Mom upgraded to the full size four-wheel drive Suburban.

  • @clark9992
    @clark9992 Рік тому +11

    I like the part where they've got the octogenarian in the rear facing seat, with two kids. When the tailgate drops, the kids bolt, but gramps makes a half-hearted effort, and stays put. Wonder if he ever got out?
    Brian Regan has a funny routine about riding in his parents truckster as a kid.

    • @jimbo97
      @jimbo97 Рік тому

      The advantage of a true station wagon of the '60s over todays SUVs is the rear facing back seat. I LOVED to rid in those when I was a kid. I wouldn't today. 😄

    • @rudishboy
      @rudishboy Рік тому +1

      “…I wonder what all these signs say??”

    • @natebalcerak1659
      @natebalcerak1659 Рік тому

      @@rudishboy so true 😂

    • @mattk04
      @mattk04 Рік тому

      Thumbs up earned. Watched the video while parked in my 2010 VW Passat wagon.

  • @danielulz1640
    @danielulz1640 Рік тому +4

    In 1983, I drove a 77 Renault R12 Automatic wagon, packed like a steamer trunk, from New Orleans to San Jose, CA. It used half a quart of oil and that was the only "problem" that I had. I miss that tough little car. It rode like a French car too, even loaded!

  • @Donald_Shaw
    @Donald_Shaw Рік тому +15

    Ed, really enjoy your videos... We appreciate all your research and great content not to mention your excellent narration on all your videos. Thank you.

  • @palkarsai3668
    @palkarsai3668 Рік тому +7

    I was raised in the back of several station wagons... You intro was spot on... :D

  • @bradtheviewer
    @bradtheviewer Рік тому +11

    I'd love to see what some modern/recent sedans would look like with a wagon version like the crown victoria

    • @nowukkas2472
      @nowukkas2472 Рік тому +1

      The VF2 Holden Commodore SS aka Chevrolet SS came as a great looking wagon in Australia - LS3 included!

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 Рік тому +6

    My brother had a succession of estate cars in the 80's .. Austin Allegro, Morris Ital and a Hillman Avenger which was one of the first cars I ever drove.

  • @bossfan49
    @bossfan49 Рік тому +4

    The "Family Truckster" was a 1979 Ford LTD Country Squire customized for the film. That 70s Show featured a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. My parents had an "ice blue" 1987 Plymouth Reliant K wagon. Aunt and Uncle had a 1982 Chevy Celebrity wagon in dark maroon with wood applique.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Рік тому

      The Vista cruiser was 😎.

    • @bossfan49
      @bossfan49 Рік тому +1

      @@johndef5075 The car that Clark drove to the dealership, that got crushed, was also a Vista Cruiser!

  • @louislopez55
    @louislopez55 Рік тому +12

    That was your best episode yet, I learned a lot and really enjoyed it. Very good editing and writing also, you’re looking very professional!

  • @Brian-cr6rb
    @Brian-cr6rb Рік тому +2

    We have a Volvo V90 in our American family! We love the station wagon and would never live without one, drove a Buick later 80s estate with the sticker wood for over 20 years, a 90s 965 volvo for the rest, and now the V90. Thank you for teaching me why it's actually called the station wagon. Makes me never want to drive anything else now. Except my truck that I need to pay for it with!

  • @jasonshull3106
    @jasonshull3106 Рік тому +4

    Thanks again Ed

  • @josesousa272
    @josesousa272 Рік тому +4

    I love station wagons! They are still very popular in Europe.

    • @oskich
      @oskich Рік тому

      Over 30% of all cars in Sweden are Station wagons

  • @cliff8669
    @cliff8669 Рік тому +1

    I remember the first station wagon my Dad bought. It was a mid sixties Ford. Green in color. My Dad, being color blind thought it was brown. Spent the whole trip from Florida to California in the late sixties sitting in the very back seats looking out the back window. I myself (being married and with three kids) bought a land yacht Ford with the fake wood paneling. It was straight out of National Lampoons Vacation. That was in 1991. Drove from North Carolina to Oregon in it.

  • @jameswestervelt4263
    @jameswestervelt4263 Рік тому +4

    They forgot to mention that because of the wood paneling on the station wagons, they were often referred to as ‘Woodies.’

    • @ronforeman2556
      @ronforeman2556 Рік тому

      "Woodies" Rock! An "old" form found a new function as post-war Car Culture American repurposed cheap, pre-war, wooden-sided station wagons to transport surfboards to and from the beach. They were the perfect "lifestyle" vehicle for Beach Bums.

  • @rogersmith7396
    @rogersmith7396 Рік тому +7

    The Olds Vista Cruiser is legendary. That 70s show was built around it. Windows in the roof Ooo la la!

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 Рік тому

      @@Jack_Russell_Brown That chrome was the best part of the bird. My favorite years. Like a 1950s rocket ship.

  • @hattree
    @hattree Рік тому +4

    The movie is National Lampoon's Vacation.

  • @GunnarMiller
    @GunnarMiller Рік тому +11

    Excellent overview, as usual. Another station wagon term in American English was "woodie", which were old beaten-up '30s-'40s station wagons used in the '50s-'60s by California surfers to haul their surfboards around. As Jan & Dean sang, "I drive a '30 Ford wagon and I call it a woodie; Surf City, here we come ... two girls for every boy!" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_City_(song)
    We had mostly European cars growing up, but my father had a '78 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser as a company car. I believe it was the largest passenger car made at the time, and clearly inspired the fictional "Family Truckster" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Custom_Cruiser which appeared in "National Lampoon's Vacation".

  • @michaelstasyszyn8857
    @michaelstasyszyn8857 Рік тому +3

    My aunt and uncle had 6 kids. And they also rocked some station wagons when I was a kid in the late 80's/early 90's. Man I LOVED riding in those things. I always wanted one of my own.... Granted I said that before I was 16 and had some pretty cool cars when I started driving.

  • @christopherkraft1327
    @christopherkraft1327 Рік тому +3

    My dad bought lots of station wagons. I came home from the hospital in a 57 Ford Ranch Wagon & then in 1963 he got a new Rambler Cross Country station wagon, Woo Hoo!!! Then his last station wagon was a 1969 Chrysler Town & Country!!!

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin Рік тому +7

    My mom's parents used to have a bunch of Country Squire Station Wagons that she rode in when she was a kid and my dad's parents used to have a Pontiac Safari Wagon with a Pontiac 400 in it that he rode in when he was a kid as well.

    • @MrCozin-kd9mb
      @MrCozin-kd9mb Рік тому

      that's cool man. I 'm big fan of the vehicles you mentioned there!

  • @tedlym.3390
    @tedlym.3390 Рік тому +1

    I'm thankful that you have a UA-cam channel! Thank you,

  • @fossilsfabe4304
    @fossilsfabe4304 Рік тому +3

    In Australasia ( where I have lived since the'50's ) station wagons are always known as station wagons. Maybe sometimes as wagon but almost always station wagon. Large farms in Australia and New Zealand are called stations so this is where our name came from as they were suitable rural cars.

  • @garnix6390
    @garnix6390 Рік тому +5

    I must protest about "French Breaks" beaking all the time!
    My father had a Citroen ZX Break, and it was quite reliable. But before that he had one BX Break - Oh Boy...that hydraulic suspension at the rear axle...

    • @adrianoprea3563
      @adrianoprea3563 Рік тому +4

      French cars are underrated. I owned some and they weren't as bad as people make them out to be. Not world class either, but they certainly weren't terrible

    • @garnix6390
      @garnix6390 Рік тому +1

      @@adrianoprea3563 Well. My father provided my grandfather with a Citroen Visa after the fall of communism in bulgaria. It for sure was much better than any Lada or Trabant :D

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Рік тому

      @@adrianoprea3563 the hydropneumatic Citroëns absolutely were world class. Their suspension is unbeaten in comfort and their designs unique and avantgarde. There is nothing even resembling the style of a DS, SM or C6.

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Рік тому

      Hydropneumatic is pretty reliable actually. As long as it get's maintained. But any car will give you problems without maintanence

    • @fabricefauconnier2358
      @fabricefauconnier2358 Рік тому

      @@fuckinantipope5511 and Citroen sold these hydraulic systems to a few car makers as Audi and Mercedes for their high end models A8 et classe S..

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 Рік тому +3

    The movie the Wagon Queen Family Truckster was in is called "National Lampoons: Vacation."
    Saab called its final station wagons a Sport Combi. And I'm one of those weird people that's like wagons. My 07 Saab 9-3 Sport Combi Aero hasn't been my daily since 2018, but I don't plan on ever selling it. Unless I find a mint 72 Olds Vista Cruiser.

    • @mbd501
      @mbd501 Рік тому +1

      And the Wagon Queen was actually a modified Ford.

  • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
    @skeggjoldgunnr3167 Рік тому

    I had a 1977 Mercury Marquis station wagon. Baby blue. 400M motor that I put a 4 barrel Holley on. I also put a B&M transpak and adjustable modulator in. It came with a Y-pipe so I had a local shop do up a custom dual with cats on each side, resonators, quiet mufflers, quiet silent but good performance. LOVED taking the wife and daughter and doggy camping. We had ALL the room needed, ALL the car needed. It was the best thing for our family trips, rode like silk. I'll tell you THIS much: every trip we went on: I would look over at the wife, back at the kid...and I saw smiles. A wonderful car.

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah Рік тому +2

    I have a Subaru Outback. I've wanted to do an itasha wrap on a car for a while, but I thought it wouldn't work on a station wagon. This video reminded me that station wagons have been wrapped in vinyl for a long time and are perfectly suited for something so garish.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Рік тому +1

      Fake wood on a new Subaru would be awesome!😅

  • @InterCity134
    @InterCity134 Рік тому +5

    I would argue that to qualify as a “station wagon “ or “estate car” or “brake wagon” it must have the rear fold down door (aka tail gate) capability. Otherwise if it’s just a lift hatch with a trunk rim, it’s a hatchback, not a wagon.

    • @RC-nq7mg
      @RC-nq7mg Рік тому

      Some of them also had side hinged doors that swung out on a massive swing like an ordinary but much larger door. My parents 88 Buick Estate was like that. You would have to roll the window down to load in your groceries if someone pulled in behind you in the parking lot as the door was impossible to open. The car was so long it was damn near impossible to just turn into a parking space in a tight lot so you would have to back it in.

  • @TalenGryphon
    @TalenGryphon Рік тому +3

    I have a 1976 Volvo 245 wagon. With an '83 Turbo engine. I love that little car. She punches way above her weight class and is almost as useful as a truck

  • @Dorthy-wx9fq
    @Dorthy-wx9fq 3 місяці тому

    I grew up riding in our family Station wagon. We had 3, but the one that I remember the best was our Ford LTD. It started out as a school bus, but by the time my dad got it, it was a car but with a twist it had a jump sit in the back of the wagon and I loved it. Love from Marysville California

  • @truthsayers8725
    @truthsayers8725 Рік тому +2

    my dad had a 67 ford galaxie station wagon in wimbledon white that he traded in on a 73 LTD country squire station wagon in wimbledon white but with the wood sided applique. other than the grill and front end styling, it looked like the blue ford at 10:37. we pulled our travel trailer (you Europeans call them caravans) from michigan to maine, to DC, to south to the Ozark mountains. i rode in the 'back-back' and my sister got the back seat. lots and lot of fun times with it

  • @eirfanhazlan9271
    @eirfanhazlan9271 Рік тому +6

    Here in Malaysia, there's used to be a couple of station wagons model that were offered, with popular one being Nissan AD Resort (presumely Sentra based?). Though at least those were pre-2000 (the year i was born).
    Nowadays, i believed MPVs basically took over the role for practicality. While it is an ideal car, i wished station wagons are popular again here in Malaysia. At least make the entry-level sedans like Proton Saga and Perodua Bezza having station wagon variant. Which would look ideal for SME (small businesses).
    Too bad that the local mentallity thinking station wagons are hearses doesn't help (despite the hearses that we got are mostly commercial vans).

  • @thelorax9622
    @thelorax9622 Рік тому +4

    Hi Ed - no, they were station wagons in Australia too - my family had a Aquarius Blue Holden Kingswood station wagon with a white vinyl roof in the late 1970's-early 1980's (at least that's what we called it, perhaps the ads only referred to a wagon). In any case, it is still one of my favourite car colours

  • @pattystephens8129
    @pattystephens8129 Рік тому +1

    It’s comforting to know that even after all this SUV BS they’re gonna slide me into a station wagon for my last car ride.Yay!

  • @davidgrisez
    @davidgrisez Рік тому +1

    I was born in 1951 and grew up in a family of 6 children. For my family for many years station wagons were the main family hauling vehicle. We would take family traveling vacations with Father and Mother and six children and a top carrier full of luggage in a family station wagon. My family had a total of 4 station wagons over the years.

  • @whydidtheballooneatthefox282
    @whydidtheballooneatthefox282 Рік тому +5

    My favorite car model, my granpa owned a 404 peaugout wagon back in the day, and my other gramps used to drive a ton of them. Station wagons are some of the best cars way better than the SUV wagons give me all those fond memories of roadtrips😊

    •  Рік тому +3

      Peugeot 😉

    • @fabricefauconnier2358
      @fabricefauconnier2358 Рік тому +1

      The 404 break was quite numerous in ex french colonised african countries plus South Africa and some are still running these days. It was as reliable as toyotas, maybe more.
      Moreover I saw a few 404 in some remote places all around Australia in different versions as sedan,station wagon and espacially ute,wich is a bit amazing..

    • @whydidtheballooneatthefox282
      @whydidtheballooneatthefox282 Рік тому

      @@fabricefauconnier2358 😂 yeah Grandpa had one because it was popular at the time in South Africa, it was large and could fit the whole family my dad, as they were 10ish people or more.

    • @fabricefauconnier2358
      @fabricefauconnier2358 Рік тому +1

      @@whydidtheballooneatthefox282 My father had a sedan 404 when I was 0ish ahah. He drove it for almost 15 years all around France for professionnal issues and Spain for some hot holidays !
      I was found of it with its smiling face and really loved the Peugeot breaks all of them 203 403 404 and 504.
      I had it in Dinky toys and some of it were made for the South African market in rare colors..

    • @whydidtheballooneatthefox282
      @whydidtheballooneatthefox282 Рік тому

      @@fabricefauconnier2358 that’s lovely, what a nice memory thanks for sharing =D

  • @subnormality5854
    @subnormality5854 Рік тому +5

    14:06 Don't worry about being confused - all modern cars look like roundish blobs, roughly the same size - the names don't matter much anymore

  • @donpratt1732
    @donpratt1732 Місяць тому

    Love all your episodes but this one in particular. I learned to drive in a Plymouth Satellite station wagon. No power steering. No power brakes. Manual transmission with the shifter on the steering column. I always told myself that if I could learn to drive on this car, then I could drive anything. And it was true! Dear old Dad loved the 318 cubic inch V-8 engine (the smallest V-8 they made) because of the peppy acceleration. I still remember him teaching me how to change the oil (and filter) and change out the warm weather tires for snow tires. Those were the days...

  • @rovervitesse1985
    @rovervitesse1985 Рік тому +2

    Man i love those US family wagons

  • @darrens3
    @darrens3 Рік тому +9

    Incredible amount of research. And the tour of historic carriages and the evolution of the linguistics that is associated with this typology of vehicle is much appreciated and really helps contextualise the type in each country and show its country specific applications. Excellent works as always and I look forward to the next one!

  • @1_Papa
    @1_Papa Рік тому +3

    Thank you Ed, for another awesome episode and for validating what I've always known to be true. Some people say that Ithe wagon has died in North America. I disagree. I believe it just evolved. I'd rather have a wooden-sided wagon than most of today's SUVs. More garagable and better handling, too! 🚙

  • @alangreig4261
    @alangreig4261 Рік тому +1

    Eds English accent is hilarious. Loved it everytime he said estate car 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bruceselenka7181
    @bruceselenka7181 Рік тому +2

    70 year old guy here. Growing up, my parents had a 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca wagon followed by a 1966 Buick Special wagon (the car I learned to drive on). Later in life with my own young family there was a 1983 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park wagon (with woodgrain) and a mini wagon..a 1986 Plymouth Colt Vista wagon with a 5 speed. Then came 2 Chevy conversion vans but, that's another story.

    • @danielulz1640
      @danielulz1640 Рік тому

      I had a (used) 66 Buick Special wagon too! It was a V8 with three on the tree and NO options, not even a radio.

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh Рік тому +3

    I was expecting the term 'Variant' to be included for the German (and Scandinavian) language versions, especially as the V in Volvo's model numbers (V70, V90, etc.) stands for Variant and also the VW Type 3 and Type 4 Variants back in the day.
    The largest estate car I had was a Volvo 940 and with the rear seats down, the boot was over 6' long by over 4' wide which made these older RWD Volvos popular with harpists as they'd take a full size concert grand harp no problem. And a bari sax case would go in the boot widthways without touching the sides. I replaced it with a 2nd series V70 (the one after the 850/V70) and that was nowhere near as big as I had to take the rear seat cushions out to get a concert harp in which was a big disappointment.
    Then when I had to replace that, the only estate car with a wide enough tailgate was a 7th generation Honda Accord Tourer. My bari sax case won't fit in widthway in a large Mercedes or even a Jaguar estate which is ridiculous given how large those estates are. Same with a VW Passat estate as the area behind the rear wheel arches is all closed in to make the loading area the same width all the way along its length.
    I like estate cars for their practicality and low centre of gravity as well as the fact they have far more room than some SUVs - take the Volvo XC90 and a V70 and the V70 wipes the floor with the XC90 in terms of boot space. Plus the fact I can't stand SUVs and crossovers anyway. I'm going to be a bit stuffed when it comes to having to replace my current Honda Accord Tourer unless I can find another one.

    • @steved3702
      @steved3702 Рік тому +2

      The RWD Volvos certainly had some space. I remember seeing a news item in Wheels magazine in Australia featuring a 245 wagon on sale in Europe that was a stretch version of the regular one. It was long.

    • @chrisperyagh
      @chrisperyagh Рік тому +1

      The V70 I had was the same floorpan as a Mondeo. Absolutely bugger all room under the bonnet and the battery was in the boot as a result.
      The RWD ones had tons of room under the bonnet with their inline engines and square fronts so you didn't graze your knuckles working in such a confined space, not to mention the tight turning circle given the size of the car which was almost on par with FX4 taxis.
      There was a Volvo ad in the early '90s which went along the lines of 'How to improve a (Mk2) Golf's turning circle' with a Golf sat on top of a 940 estate.

  • @megliosolichesole
    @megliosolichesole Рік тому +5

    In italy they were called "giardinetta", giardino meaning garden. They were very rare, being considered only work vehicles. Today are more of a common sight and called station wagon.

    • @MissBabalu102
      @MissBabalu102 Рік тому +2

      That is SO cute. I want a giardinetta! I am sick and tired of SUVs and monster like pickups. (Although would love a vintage P.U.)

    • @maxart3392
      @maxart3392 Рік тому +1

      Yes, still remember Topolino giardinetta.

    • @MissBabalu102
      @MissBabalu102 Рік тому

      @@maxart3392
      what does topolino mean? I want that too.

    • @maxart3392
      @maxart3392 Рік тому +1

      @@MissBabalu102 Little Italian car of the late 1940s, actually a predecessor of Fiat 500, and it also existed in ((sort of) station wagon version with wooden bodywork which gave it the nickname "Giardinetta". Topolino means little mouse in Italian.

    • @MissBabalu102
      @MissBabalu102 Рік тому

      @@maxart3392 Oh my gosh, that sounds adorable. Once again, I want one.

  • @oldiron77
    @oldiron77 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the wonderful flashback memories, Ed. At 9:24, my brothers and I would launch out the tailgate of our Grandpa's '67 Impala wagon just the same. The last one to plant their feet on the ground had to close it. Other station wagons in the family include the '71 AMC Ambassador, a '72 and '74 Ford Country Squire, and a '74 Chevy Caprice wagon. My Dad bought a used '66 VW Squareback around 1970 but it couldn't haul the whole family without overheating.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw Рік тому +2

    The other thing about SUVs and europeans is their roads. Many of their roads, particularly in smaller villages/towns, are not large enough to support larger SUvs or full sized vans. Of course in more populated areas like say Munich Germany, this isn't a problem, but in really small towns it could be especailly if there is a lot of traffic. The same for some Asian countries...their roads are not big enough for a standard US style SUV or van, so the crossover is a good compromise for those locations.

  • @andreasbenning
    @andreasbenning Рік тому +5

    In Sweden we also call them kombi (although Volvo has always called them herrgårdsvagn, translates to estate wagon), and that made me giggle a little towards the end when you addressed the confusion about the different for all the not so different body styles. Vice versa to this, the Saab 99 and 900 hatchbacks weren't hatchbacks, no, they were Combi Coupés. How's that for fancy? xD
    Thanks for uploading! Greetings from Sweden.

    • @vladraptor
      @vladraptor Рік тому +3

      Volvo used to call them 'kartanoauto' in Finland, kartano meaning an estate. The body type is usually called a 'farmariauto' or just 'farmari' (a farmer car).

  • @dannysdailys
    @dannysdailys Рік тому +3

    Nice to see you back Ed. We were a family of 5 kids and Grandma so Dad bought a 1972 Buick Estate Wagon 9 passenger and it was just beautiful. It was bamboo yellow (a Cadillac color) with woodgrain everywhere and it set the bamboo off. Cadillac didn't make a wagon so this was GM's big luxury wagon, which explains its color. It had a 455 V-8 in it and would just fly. Imagine that, a high performance battle tank and it was that. I loved the wood grain so much it stuck. So I bought a 2011 Jeep Liberty and turned it into a "Woody" complete with the surf board. And it is a looker. Even the airport workers ooh and aah over it. Keep the faith friend. I hope you didn't get vaxed. I want you to love cars for decades to come. I certainly have. I have a small collection that I know you would like. And no, the movie was called "Vacation" and was make by National Lampoon, a magazine. Danny J

  • @vinnydaq13
    @vinnydaq13 Рік тому

    Our family car was an Oldsmobile Dynamic 88 bought brand new on Jan. 31, 1963. It lasted exactly 10 years, with the engine disintegrating on January 31, 1973. I was in preschool when dad bought it, and I was in my freshman year of high school when it died. Must’ve had around 300,000 miles on it. What a trooper!

  • @trackrash
    @trackrash Місяць тому

    I've owned almost 50 different cars now and one that has me flabbergasted right now is a E350 Mercedes Benz station wagon. It kinda reminds me of my grandpa's 1985 Plymouth Reliant station wagon that I grew up with. K Car! Nothing beats a station wagon. Even my old 73 VW Squareback was a lot of fun to drive!

  • @hydorah
    @hydorah Рік тому +3

    The kind of 'brake' as in 'Shooting Brake' is spelled 'Brake' not 'Break' There was no error in the video I just wanted to mention it as it's yet another variation! The terminology around UK taxis got touched on here with 'Hackney Carriage' is very rich vein of terminology! And I bet the US scene is as well. In fact Ed, that might be a good video idea for you. The US taxi scene, Chequer and all that

  • @kaspervletter290
    @kaspervletter290 Рік тому +17

    I love the swedish station wagons, much safer and reliable

  • @venkat8419
    @venkat8419 Рік тому

    Thank you for putting together this video with clean history of automobiles.

  • @learrus
    @learrus Рік тому +1

    I was born in 84 and have always loved station wagons. We used to ride facing backwards and pretending we were B17 tail Gunners...

  • @Christopher_Giustolisi
    @Christopher_Giustolisi Рік тому +9

    The SUV will be the new minivan or station wagon. The SUVs popularity will eventually come to an end and future generations will laugh about those wannabe offroaders like I´m lauging now. The station wagon, the mini van, both were great ideas but SUVs? Why do people buy them? 99% of them will never leave a paved road and many are even sold without all wheel drive. It´s ridiculous

  • @rattelv426
    @rattelv426 Рік тому +1

    Aussie here, yes Station Wagon has been in use in Australia for decades.

  • @dannyreynolds2751
    @dannyreynolds2751 Рік тому +1

    Growing up as a boomer, my dad bought a 1952 Chevy Woody wagon, a new 1958 Edsel wagon, then 1961 Rambler wagon.

  • @edwardherzrec
    @edwardherzrec Рік тому

    I havent even started the video, yet I know that this is the best thing you have ever done and you will never top this!

  • @george2916
    @george2916 Рік тому

    Thanks Ed. Brilliant vid. Only 4 mins in and I've already learned more about wagons than a lifetime reading car books/magazines. 😁

  • @chrisclermont456
    @chrisclermont456 Рік тому

    I really appreciate this video!! My 1st car was my mom's retired 73 Ford LTD Country Squire. Loved that bad boy!!

  • @sterlingodeaghaidh5086
    @sterlingodeaghaidh5086 Рік тому +1

    Station wagons were the favorite of funeral directors (I mentioned this before probably), they were inconspicuous to be able to go into the suburbs for a removal without arousing suspicion and were nice enough to give the grand feel funeral homes try to give but they were also utilitarian enough that they could afford to use those daily and leave the hearse which were and are expensive to upkeep for the funerals. This also paired with the fact that funeral homes in the U.S weren't obligated to be the ambulance service anymore meant they could afford to do this.
    Eventually as Station Wagons fell out of favor Minivans, and SUVs and the ubiquitous Comercial Van became the Go-to, most funeral homes use Minivans and SUVs to this day.

  • @iangrice329
    @iangrice329 Рік тому +1

    I love estate cars, they are perfect

  • @colehalford1893
    @colehalford1893 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for making a video on my second favorite vehicles. My first favorite is a DeLorean

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman Рік тому

    It's great that you explain and recognise the different terms for each part of the world.

  • @stephenspilker9334
    @stephenspilker9334 Рік тому

    i've had a few wagons over the years. i love them

  • @mibfox
    @mibfox Рік тому +1

    I am from Europe, maybe that is why I love the Estate from National Holiday movie. I want that car!

  • @byushidoran
    @byushidoran Рік тому

    Loved the video. We grew up in the back of a station wagon and raised out kids in vans or SUVs.

  • @buckshot6481
    @buckshot6481 Рік тому

    The best explanation I've ever heard !
    I will saw the rear facing seat was so much better than the third row in today's SUV.

  • @neilcook4710
    @neilcook4710 Рік тому

    Ed buddy, I learned so much from this video. I've been in the automotive business for 25 years, and never, ever knew what the hell shooting brake meant. Thank you sir!

  • @saneauto
    @saneauto Рік тому +1

    I find your unique perspective on our US vehicles interesting and entertaining.

  • @jimcurt99
    @jimcurt99 Рік тому

    Growing up we had a 1968 Pontiac Catalina station wagon- was HUGE, giant V8 engine, super smooth ride, and AC that would freeze you here in the Arizona heat. Wish I had that car now....

  • @SuperMorriso
    @SuperMorriso Рік тому

    Bravo! As usual. Funny and clear.❤

  • @edpowell5754
    @edpowell5754 Рік тому

    From Buffalo, N.Y. I had several Stationwagons and Loved them back in the 1970‘s.

  • @larrybruce4856
    @larrybruce4856 Рік тому

    I had a 1973 Chevy Estate Station Wagon, green with wood paneling, cream interior, and clamshell tailgate. Loved the car. Easy and organized dash and the clamshell tailgate was completely out of the way for loading items in the back and didn't break your knees like other station wagons with tailgates.