killing the shopkeeper makes the enemy team only able to shop wile they are dead. BUYING IN THE AFTERLIFE from the shopkeeper ghost, Truly amazing Rito, Amazing.
Well no. The entity MUST be there lol... That how coding works...... It's set to be untargetable.. So with script you can likely sent direct attacks to it via ID or some sheninegans.. However.... WHY IS IT KILLABLE OMG.. IF ANY dev with brain... yeah far shot for rito games.. makes this... you put 999 armor and 999 mr JUST IN CASE.. Or.. better yet. It's allied to both factions? or such..
Its quite easy actually, they said years ago that EVERYTHING was minions. So of course the shop is a minion. U can attack it because scripts can make you able to hit invulnerable targets.
@@DiabolicNick AFAIK devs have to jump through multiple hoops to make the simplest of additions. With some unorthodox methods being the only ones that they can use. I think it was august that said this? Anyways its shitty code.
@Vandiril Yeah, so maybe let's talk about rito event passes. Level 2 (that for 3650 RP) says it gives 10 level passes. But what if we first buy less expensive one (that for 2650 RP). It seems it gives us 10 Level passes and when you buy second one you've got another 10 level passes. That's an another anticonsument move by riot - seeing their price for 1 level that mean that if you but event pass wrong you're about 950RP behind if you buy two of em in separate transactions.
The shopkeeper having nexus kill animation is fucking hilarious, like riot someday said "someday, someone, will manage to kill the shopkeeper, let's animate his death" LMAO
@psychokuca302 to be honest I don't see any similar properties between the nexus and the shopkeeper, but can be, we will never know how rito spaghetti's code works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@exynex9441 he's probably coded as a nexu protected by the fountain tower,. With the fountain that can't be destroyed you can't attack the nexus. The problem maybe come from the new effect of tower respawning, so that nexus can be damaged even with tower alive (well, can't be targeted but the nexus can have loosed hp in the downtime) so the fountain tower may be bugged, allowing the Nexus-shopkeeper to loose life. It's just my interpretation tho
I'm gonna take a wild guess. The shop is coded as a unit, so essentially a minion. Normally untargetable, but somehow the script can target it and thus kill it. Once it's dead, the proximity check, that usually looks whether you're close enough to the base/shop, stops working as there is no reference unit anymore that is usually used to see whether you're in base or not. But it still works while you're dead because, during death you can always access shop. That's likely there because your unit is not immediately returned to base when dead but they still want you to be able to access shop whenever you're dead.. But I might be completely wrong, so if I am, be sure to tell me.
So when coding, I know that if you need something to be interactable, it's common that you copy and paste, so maybe the shop is copy and pasted as a turret. So what I am suspecting is going on here is that they took the code from the turret so you could click on it to 'acknowledge' that it's a targetable sprite(like how you can see a turrets armor and hp in the top left when you click on it), but they didn't take off the hp or 'destroyed' animation. This could have been an exploit for years tbh. Like this could be beta or alpha code or something they have never seen before and only now is being seen because someone deleted something they shouldnt have during preseason updates on the shop or something. Could be the same code for a nexus instead of the turret. Could be literally anything lol. It's probably a placeholder code, maybe code got moved around and pasted somewhere. Maybe the code for it is in a safe place tabbed out from the shop somewhere and someone untabbed it. There's seriously like a thousand different reasons this could exist. xD
They should fix this exploit by having the shop keeper respawn, but unlimited range agro, so it chases anyone who attacked them around the map. Of course with all of the combined stats for the all of the items that they could possibly sell. Oh and of course anyone on the friendly team could still shop both at the base or wherever they have chased the offending enemies to.
Any object on the map is a building and has a health. You just need to find a way to deal damage to it. For example, in Dota, you used to be able to destroy the enemy team's fountain. That thing that does damage and heals everyone. And it wasn't done with bugs or scripts. No, you just took a character who had passive ability to infinitely increase damage on the target with every next attack and statchecked the enemy fountain. Nice to see the League almost developed to that level too. I think a couple more years and we'll get a character who can destroy the fountain.
I mean, there was a bug where Neeko could transform into the fountain. And that's seems only possible if the fountain is indeed a building/minion/unit.
@@EminNSU That's how they made it but it doesnt need to be that way. It just needs to be coded when someone is in range it plays laser animation and deals damage per second if its and enemy and heals if its an ally. It doesnt need to be an object it can just be baked into the 3D mesh along with the rest of the map. Turrets are supposed to be targetable so they have to be objects. That would mean tho that you can figure our how to attack bushes since they are 100% an object too.
Don't be fooled, Riot is preparing a new gamemode: ARASR: All Random All Summoner Rift, and as we know from ARAM, you can only buy when you die, so they implemented coding the shop as a minion as an easter egg!
I guess they coded the shop as a building clickable for both teams and just set the click-hitbox as basically zero for the enemy team, so it couldn't be attacked. With a script it might be possible to click the exact spot necessary, which is too small to hit with a mouse cursor.
@@thuroria7631 A script can only target things that are targetable. To target something it must simulate the input which targets the thing. Since the input to target the shop is not performable by a human player it cannot just be a keyboard button press. Hence my guess is that it simulates a click on a hitbbox that is basically zero. You are right, that the script bruteforces the attack on the shop, but the input method would still be a simulated mouse click.
No one, not even riot, said vanguard was flawless. It’s a incredibly fast learning anti cheat. If you create a new cheat, the system won’t pick it up because it doesn’t recognize it. They teach the system to look for it, it doesn’t auto detect cheats it doesn’t know exist. (No I’m not a vanguard apologist, just saying how it works)
When I saw the blowing up Nexus animation and the +50 gold I expected Senna to just win the game, she destroyed something apparently very similar to the Nexus after all, but she really did just kill the shop, don't know if I was dissapointed or amazed, probably both.
Right? When I played Val it considered msi afterburner as a script and I had to restart every time I used it and turn it off. Also had a problem with my mobo's rgb software too lol.
Eh... Not really. What most likely happened is they copied the nexus entity in their toolkit and then proceeded to change it into the shopkeeper. Because the copied it, it kept all the other settings including nexus animation. It also perfectly explains why the shop gives you 50 g for destroying it and why it no longer functions as a shop after it is destroyed.
@@callmeriggy I mean, you dont touch the part that is working, and this is an hack not a bug, and need you to script and its already recognized and banned, so yes in this case they dont need to make anything, at least right now
In URF, sometimes i had seen the bug, that dead bodies of champions having a hitbox, so minions get stuck at these bodies or walking buggy around them. And one time, a Rengar ulted to a dead Champion to get closer to my teammates.
I've noticed this since the season start. The shopkeep's hitbox is way too large, and there's the attack icon if you hover over it with your mouse. There's also a seam by the red's bot side tier two tower, and now you can't unsee it anytime you're there
Couldnt they make something like this for scripters, where they put something attackable by only scripting and the moment someone damages it, the game terminates?
Why? Why would you build in a fail safe the scripter has to attack deliberately? That's like a bank kindly asking the robbers to press the big red button to call the police themselves.
@@lubue5795 I think the point they were going for is that, if they are using a script that autoattacks for you, they would hit the "untargettable" target
@@deusvult9761 Still overly complicated, isn't? I mean you then would need to know how exactly the script is issuing attack commands, while making sure ordinary players can't hit it. And if you then use a script for abilities it wouldn't get detected at all.
Every day, I clock into UA-cam and see yet another thing that goes wrong in League. I've been doing this job for 5 years at this point, and because of that, I'm not even surprised anymore
It's crazy how a League of Legends exploit from 2011, like killing the shopkeeper, is only now being figured out. Reminds me of those old Pokémon glitches that fans still keep discovering even after so many years!
Writing before I see this. The craziest thing for me was Yasuo in a solo game after a remake and he got a win and everyone else lost and were penalized. There is no way it's crazier than that. NO FUCKING WAY.
for some reason this feels like rito implemented this as easter egg a looong time ago when player base was low.. and actually forgot it exists when it is at its current state since no one found out
I think if there was an objective defending the shopkeep or the shop could defend itself that this would actually be really cool. Also you gotta let him respawn. Almost like a 4th inhib
I noticed that after the release of this new season, the shopkeepers has the same line like he was a minion, so you can theorically "aggro" him. I think that is the problem here
Us: You're gonna fix this whole spaghetti mess right? Rito: ...We'll add a gacha system and focus on that instead, you guys like shiny things right? It's like dangling car keys in front of a baby
+50 gold and the animations tells me that the shopkeeper is coded as a nexus (or inherits the nexus object). Which means that inside of the nexus object or struct there is a tag probably called "clickable" and one probably called something like "destructible", which opens up a whole new world of possibilities for future bugs if there is a way to toggle them on or off... Or maybe there are literally no such tags and for the shop to be indestructible Rito either placed the hitbox under the clickable event or for the enemy team there is for once more an invisible wall of minions that guard the area and somehow the Renata buff bypasses that with Senna... Either way, the fact that this is even possible in the first place is ridiculous.
I can only guess that the shop in Summoner's Rift and Howling Abyss/ARAM are similar in code. Since you can only buy in ARAM at the start of the game or when dead/respawning, there's probably a hint of that in the SR shop. Perhaps the one in ARAM 'dies' from a timer setting their health to 0 instead of player input, but probably isn't script-proof to be invincible from players.
At this point I'm just at a loss of words. I'm so glad I quit this game recently and I think more people should do the same. Maybe that will show them to treat their game and it's players seriously.
Riot wont care, as long as whales keep throwing their money at Riot they will keep making the game worse to bleed them of more and more money. We lost our chance to make an impact as a community when we tried boycotting champions instead of the actual game when the mythic scams started
Because of this? Meh This is a very very niche exploit that can be done only with third side software, not even the worst one around, and it probably existed for years - just wasn't detected because of how niche and rare it is. There are way worse things in lol...
From what I remember, when the game was created, they had a brilliant idea to code everything as a minion. Anivia wall is made out of "minions", walls are "minions", jarvan ultimate is "a minion", Azir wall is "a minion" a so on. They are untargetable the same goes for the shop. So, if you have a script to destroy the shop, you can do the same for everything above. Structures have hidden high amounts of hp, and when Ornn charges Anivias wall to destroy it, it just deals a huge amount of true damage to it. If you have damage numbers in settings set on, it used to show the damage done to these structures. League is an old game relying on legacy spaghetti code, and it would simpler to write a new game from scratch than fixing the current one. This is the true reason why the league will never be truly fixed. It is not humanly possible.
I wonder whether that might have been out of necessity. The League engine is 15 years old after all and it was Riot's first game, so there likely wasn't a lot of budget around. The engine probably just doesn't allow for anything else and over the years they had to use minions everywhere as creative solutions for new abilities and stuff.
killing the shopkeeper makes the enemy team only able to shop wile they are dead. BUYING IN THE AFTERLIFE from the shopkeeper ghost, Truly amazing Rito, Amazing.
So not an exploit but a feature. Rito is always a step ahead
That makes a lot of sense! 1000 year experience coming in clutch. Good one Rito
I mean, sounds just like an aram game-
That aside... it DOES bring an interesting feature if we go to the shadow isles in a future gamemode.
Oh my God you people are horrible to kill the shop it's a giant elephant mouse
Oda Genio. Não tem como.
Oh so the shopkeeper is also coded as a minion? Got it.
Looks like coded as a nexus.
As a nexus apparently, which is a special type of minion for sure.
everything is minions the nexus is a minion, the map is a minion, life is a minion, you are a minion
@@Natsuki89 Yeah its basically just a minion w/ 5500 health
as a teemo but a nexus death
this is too far gone to be spaghetti code a dev has to be trolling
Well no. The entity MUST be there lol... That how coding works...... It's set to be untargetable.. So with script you can likely sent direct attacks to it via ID or some sheninegans.. However.... WHY IS IT KILLABLE OMG.. IF ANY dev with brain... yeah far shot for rito games.. makes this... you put 999 armor and 999 mr JUST IN CASE.. Or.. better yet. It's allied to both factions? or such..
@janvrabec3401 it doesn't have to be an entity that is destroyable, targettable, or with health so it's most likely bad riot coding lmao
Its quite easy actually, they said years ago that EVERYTHING was minions. So of course the shop is a minion. U can attack it because scripts can make you able to hit invulnerable targets.
@@DiabolicNick AFAIK devs have to jump through multiple hoops to make the simplest of additions.
With some unorthodox methods being the only ones that they can use.
I think it was august that said this?
Anyways its shitty code.
@@Karami42how do you explain the exploding shop animation 🤨
I literally sat here with a confused smile on my face and said:
"....what...."
Honestly I had a similar reaction and I thought I've seen everything...
@Vandiril Yeah, so maybe let's talk about rito event passes. Level 2 (that for 3650 RP) says it gives 10 level passes. But what if we first buy less expensive one (that for 2650 RP). It seems it gives us 10 Level passes and when you buy second one you've got another 10 level passes. That's an another anticonsument move by riot - seeing their price for 1 level that mean that if you but event pass wrong you're about 950RP behind if you buy two of em in separate transactions.
I think this is the way the shop difference between SR and Aram is coded - if the team has the shop minion, it can buy when alive
@@VandirilI swear if you dig deep enough you'd find out this game still runs on Warcraft 3
The shopkeeper having nexus kill animation is fucking hilarious, like riot someday said "someday, someone, will manage to kill the shopkeeper, let's animate his death" LMAO
No,most likely shopkeepers code was once copied from nexus,keeping all its properties which never were removed
@psychokuca302 to be honest I don't see any similar properties between the nexus and the shopkeeper, but can be, we will never know how rito spaghetti's code works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@exynex9441the +50 gold and animation makes it seem like it is coded similar to nexus
@@exynex9441 he's probably coded as a nexu protected by the fountain tower,. With the fountain that can't be destroyed you can't attack the nexus. The problem maybe come from the new effect of tower respawning, so that nexus can be damaged even with tower alive (well, can't be targeted but the nexus can have loosed hp in the downtime) so the fountain tower may be bugged, allowing the Nexus-shopkeeper to loose life. It's just my interpretation tho
@@exynex9441 The similar properties is that they're both coded as a minion probably
at this point the whole game is an exploit
the whole game is a minion.
That's why composition is usually better than inheritance
Best exploit is when unistall lol
It is. Security Exploits when we allowed Vanguard to run on our PC.
Financial Exploit via gachas and shitty passes and skins
Fame exploit via mess of a Game
Security exploit via Vanguard
Oh glad they also manage driver on players' computers : )
The most crazy part about this is that it only happened now. A bug like this feels like the type that was there since beta
Yeah, after pc breaking deal with vanguard. I can only clap and cry for riot
Wouldn't be surprised if even the ground is a minion
lmao
You're just playing a match over a minion head
Can't wait for cho'gath to eat all of summoner's rift for 1 (one) stack
@@amiablereaper then tower
Your comment is a minion
This… is so broken…
It makes Viego look like he was QA tested before release.
speaking of viego, i wonder if he can inhabit the spirit of the shopkeeper after it dies lmao
@@smushycows2334 probably not, because it is most likely a minion.
@@Tascioni49 that means neeko can transform into the shop?
@ maybe even renata can turn the shop against the team 🤭
World be hillarious if veigo could sell items to his team after taking shop soul
I'm gonna take a wild guess.
The shop is coded as a unit, so essentially a minion. Normally untargetable, but somehow the script can target it and thus kill it.
Once it's dead, the proximity check, that usually looks whether you're close enough to the base/shop, stops working as there is no reference unit anymore that is usually used to see whether you're in base or not.
But it still works while you're dead because, during death you can always access shop. That's likely there because your unit is not immediately returned to base when dead but they still want you to be able to access shop whenever you're dead..
But I might be completely wrong, so if I am, be sure to tell me.
yeah that checks out
But the places where you're able to shop from are not a circular range around the shop ; they just match the visual of the fountain.
I am sure you might be wrong, but I'm also sure I'm too lazy to tell you why.
I remember that video where everything in league is coded as a minion, so this actually might be true.
Yeah most likely this
Italians would be proud of Riot for cooking such pasta
riot fixed a bug that allowed you to get the $250 jinx skin for like $50 immediately but will take a week to fix this exploit
I dont think they will fix it, you need an exploit that can already been recognized and banned so its useless
@@xpy99 I think Riot will fix this, as it is just 1 thing to change, the immutability
@@Salzui you litterly use cheats (scrpit ) for this to work . i dont think they will fix it
Why is the shop even attackable...what's the point?
this is probably how aram works
Because everything in league is a minion with a skin on it
Invis minion coor intargeteable
So when coding, I know that if you need something to be interactable, it's common that you copy and paste, so maybe the shop is copy and pasted as a turret. So what I am suspecting is going on here is that they took the code from the turret so you could click on it to 'acknowledge' that it's a targetable sprite(like how you can see a turrets armor and hp in the top left when you click on it), but they didn't take off the hp or 'destroyed' animation. This could have been an exploit for years tbh. Like this could be beta or alpha code or something they have never seen before and only now is being seen because someone deleted something they shouldnt have during preseason updates on the shop or something. Could be the same code for a nexus instead of the turret. Could be literally anything lol. It's probably a placeholder code, maybe code got moved around and pasted somewhere. Maybe the code for it is in a safe place tabbed out from the shop somewhere and someone untabbed it. There's seriously like a thousand different reasons this could exist. xD
@@odorousobject8165 in this case it looks like it's a nexus reskin
We've reached levels of spaghetti that shouldn't be possible
They should fix this exploit by having the shop keeper respawn, but unlimited range agro, so it chases anyone who attacked them around the map. Of course with all of the combined stats for the all of the items that they could possibly sell.
Oh and of course anyone on the friendly team could still shop both at the base or wherever they have chased the offending enemies to.
That should be a feature in the MMORPG they're making, as punishment for players who try to steal. XD
Any object on the map is a building and has a health. You just need to find a way to deal damage to it. For example, in Dota, you used to be able to destroy the enemy team's fountain. That thing that does damage and heals everyone. And it wasn't done with bugs or scripts. No, you just took a character who had passive ability to infinitely increase damage on the target with every next attack and statchecked the enemy fountain.
Nice to see the League almost developed to that level too.
I think a couple more years and we'll get a character who can destroy the fountain.
I mean, there was a bug where Neeko could transform into the fountain. And that's seems only possible if the fountain is indeed a building/minion/unit.
@@lubue5795 That's what I'm talking about. At base level there aren't many options for making an object.
@@EminNSU there are actually a ton of options for making objects and structures as two completely different things
@@EminNSU That's how they made it but it doesnt need to be that way. It just needs to be coded when someone is in range it plays laser animation and deals damage per second if its and enemy and heals if its an ally. It doesnt need to be an object it can just be baked into the 3D mesh along with the rest of the map. Turrets are supposed to be targetable so they have to be objects. That would mean tho that you can figure our how to attack bushes since they are 100% an object too.
Nowadays not 16 years ago.@masterbomber98
Don't be fooled, Riot is preparing a new gamemode: ARASR: All Random All Summoner Rift, and as we know from ARAM, you can only buy when you die, so they implemented coding the shop as a minion as an easter egg!
That's how we did it back in the day before aram with custom games
Actually we all can buy thing alive on ARAM but only in the fountaint and not after moving from the starting place.
@@PrzezWielkieM With a slight wiggle room, even if you leave for a second or two
So what I'm hearing is the shop was coded with a minion... Yah that tracks.
It exploded, so probably a nexus/turret.
@DevilWearsAdidas those are probably minions too lol
@ Well now there's evidence that the nexus came first xD
I guess they coded the shop as a building clickable for both teams and just set the click-hitbox as basically zero for the enemy team, so it couldn't be attacked.
With a script it might be possible to click the exact spot necessary, which is too small to hit with a mouse cursor.
This is the most likely explanation from all the comments :)
Well, it's not like there isn't something similar in other game, particularly fountain killing in Dota.
it's not about clicking, the script directly targets the shop.
@@thuroria7631what do you mean? The script can't give the game any special commands, only mouse movement and keystrokes.
@@thuroria7631 A script can only target things that are targetable. To target something it must simulate the input which targets the thing.
Since the input to target the shop is not performable by a human player it cannot just be a keyboard button press. Hence my guess is that it simulates a click on a hitbbox that is basically zero. You are right, that the script bruteforces the attack on the shop, but the input method would still be a simulated mouse click.
New day new league bug
"new"
it's not a bug
Akshually 🤓👆
I... did not expected that at absolutely all
1:22 what about Vanguard!>?!
Yeah hé cheating and no one talking about
Vanguard is just a myth, a spook story ppl tell their kids at night
No one, not even riot, said vanguard was flawless. It’s a incredibly fast learning anti cheat. If you create a new cheat, the system won’t pick it up because it doesn’t recognize it. They teach the system to look for it, it doesn’t auto detect cheats it doesn’t know exist. (No I’m not a vanguard apologist, just saying how it works)
I just saw a short from Riot August where he was talking about alternate win conditions....
"if everything is exploitable, nothing is!"
When I saw the blowing up Nexus animation and the +50 gold I expected Senna to just win the game, she destroyed something apparently very similar to the Nexus after all, but she really did just kill the shop, don't know if I was dissapointed or amazed, probably both.
Same, in fact, but I don't think scripter would do this if this was a case. Too obvious even for automated systems, instant ban incoming
Leave the shopkeepers alone :(
It reminded me of ffx 😂
They should’ve left the yordles alone.
Okay i must admit... from every bug i have seen that is the new Spaghettiest one...
my teammates were already losing to the shopkeeper on the regular but this is a new level!
BUT BUT Vanguard ????? Atleast it considers my Samsung SSD Drivers as not allowed Programm sometimes...
It was busy spying on ur data, thats why she was banned after the players reported her
Right? When I played Val it considered msi afterburner as a script and I had to restart every time I used it and turn it off. Also had a problem with my mobo's rgb software too lol.
i mean.... the animation of the shopkeeper exploding kinda cool ngl. lmfao
the crazy part is that when the shop "dies" it has the nexus explosion animation... a dev intentionally got that animation in...
Eh... Not really.
What most likely happened is they copied the nexus entity in their toolkit and then proceeded to change it into the shopkeeper. Because the copied it, it kept all the other settings including nexus animation.
It also perfectly explains why the shop gives you 50 g for destroying it and why it no longer functions as a shop after it is destroyed.
Imagine you are multi billion company for 7 years and still have these issues. embarrassing.
Because the game is 15 years old, and you NEVER touch anything if it works.
@@xpy99 Clearly it's not working, tho. A new bug video comes up like multiple times a day every day.
You've never coded anything in your life to say that
@@callmeriggy I mean, you dont touch the part that is working, and this is an hack not a bug, and need you to script and its already recognized and banned, so yes in this case they dont need to make anything, at least right now
@@lov3mena261 do i have to be a chef to know the food tastes bad?
In URF, sometimes i had seen the bug, that dead bodies of champions having a hitbox, so minions get stuck at these bodies or walking buggy around them. And one time, a Rengar ulted to a dead Champion to get closer to my teammates.
I've noticed this since the season start. The shopkeep's hitbox is way too large, and there's the attack icon if you hover over it with your mouse. There's also a seam by the red's bot side tier two tower, and now you can't unsee it anytime you're there
i knew something was off when i could click the enemy shop with rengar these past games, it felt weird but i didnt think it would be this bad
The fact that there is even a special animation for it is insane
Limited access to the shopkeeper would make for an interesting gamemode. Kinda like Arena or csgo, but team death match.
aram exists
Bro forgot ARAM existed
With this, Vandiril finally has gathered enough evidence to put the riot staff behind bars
everything is coded as a minion!
Rito: How can we make this game more snowball?
Intern: Let the enemy destroy the shop?
Rito:My goodness, Jimmy! You sly devil! 😂
Baus: "Every death is good death now"
Couldnt they make something like this for scripters, where they put something attackable by only scripting and the moment someone damages it, the game terminates?
Why?
Why would you build in a fail safe the scripter has to attack deliberately? That's like a bank kindly asking the robbers to press the big red button to call the police themselves.
@@lubue5795 I think the point they were going for is that, if they are using a script that autoattacks for you, they would hit the "untargettable" target
@@deusvult9761 Still overly complicated, isn't?
I mean you then would need to know how exactly the script is issuing attack commands, while making sure ordinary players can't hit it. And if you then use a script for abilities it wouldn't get detected at all.
I am sure it's worthwhile to implement a feature that will catch exactly one (1) scripter before it's figured out.
Scripters have more trouble with Vanguard, detecting Scripts because they interact with the game instead of behaviour-based.
Cant't believe it's only January. Vandiril's been eating good.
This explains why the shopkeeper hitbox is so massive now.
Every day, I clock into UA-cam and see yet another thing that goes wrong in League. I've been doing this job for 5 years at this point, and because of that, I'm not even surprised anymore
This is by a country mile the most insane thing I've ever seen on this game
this is just what happens in war, senna and renata are role-playing for the noxian update
Whenever Vandiril talks in his video, you know its about to get serious.
It's crazy how a League of Legends exploit from 2011, like killing the shopkeeper, is only now being figured out. Reminds me of those old Pokémon glitches that fans still keep discovering even after so many years!
If you want to beat the enemy, destroy their shop - Sun Tzu.
You can also do it on the little critters in river and outside the map (frogs, birds)
Writing before I see this. The craziest thing for me was Yasuo in a solo game after a remake and he got a win and everyone else lost and were penalized. There is no way it's crazier than that.
NO FUCKING WAY.
for some reason this feels like rito implemented this as easter egg a looong time ago when player base was low.. and actually forgot it exists when it is at its current state since no one found out
Basically a hidden Ornn buff. My man need no shop.
So the "everything is a minion" goes so hard in LoL that even the Shop is a minion
Killing the shop feels like an alternate win condition on par with some other RTS game where you kill the enemy workers.
The RE4 Merchant sends his condolences.
It's like the true roguelike element of purchasing new items after you die in a run
Riot "Let's code everything as a minion, surely nothing will go wrong" Games.
Riot: Vanguard will end scripters
Vandiril: Hold my beer
Next patch with riot '200 years' solution: shopkeeper now has 5 billion hp.
imagine a bug & exploit channel still have infinite content after a whole fkin 15 years. it can't surprise me anymore lmao
I think if there was an objective defending the shopkeep or the shop could defend itself that this would actually be really cool. Also you gotta let him respawn. Almost like a 4th inhib
The spaghetti evolved to space monster spaghetti
I prefer to believe that this is an easter egg that was hidden for decades and for some reason was discovered.
I noticed that after the release of this new season, the shopkeepers has the same line like he was a minion, so you can theorically "aggro" him. I think that is the problem here
Us: You're gonna fix this whole spaghetti mess right?
Rito: ...We'll add a gacha system and focus on that instead, you guys like shiny things right? It's like dangling car keys in front of a baby
To be fair killing off the opponent's supply is a strategy
Going by the 50 gold and animation, the shop keepers are untargetable nexus turrets apparently? Wild.
My reaction was the same as Starlord's when ego told him he killed his mom
Even in death, the shopkeeper still sells....
This is like DOTA where you can destroy the Well
Waiting for Neeko to be able to disguise as the shop
My teammates wouldnt notice this happening as they are always dead anyways.
Enabling Aram mode in real time is crazy work
+50 gold and the animations tells me that the shopkeeper is coded as a nexus (or inherits the nexus object). Which means that inside of the nexus object or struct there is a tag probably called "clickable" and one probably called something like "destructible", which opens up a whole new world of possibilities for future bugs if there is a way to toggle them on or off... Or maybe there are literally no such tags and for the shop to be indestructible Rito either placed the hitbox under the clickable event or for the enemy team there is for once more an invisible wall of minions that guard the area and somehow the Renata buff bypasses that with Senna... Either way, the fact that this is even possible in the first place is ridiculous.
Shop extends minion.
The script tool then just removes the extra stuff of the shop that prevents it from beeing targeted.
Riot just giving Vandril content at this point.
I fully expected them to just attack the enemy nexus and kill it, but killing the shop keeper is diabolical.
They should turn it into a feature with a long resplendent timer. Like 10 minutes
Next up: "Did you know that you can kill THE ANNOUNCER in league?"
You know something is really hilariously bugged when Vandiril speaks. That's when you know the video is gonna show something really special.
Not really,he has been doing it for a while now
Last one was like 12 days ago, so it's mostly a rarity
@ except before we got it.. rarer than once a yesr
Cant wait to see for Vandiril buying special items from the nexus next time.
I can only guess that the shop in Summoner's Rift and Howling Abyss/ARAM are similar in code. Since you can only buy in ARAM at the start of the game or when dead/respawning, there's probably a hint of that in the SR shop. Perhaps the one in ARAM 'dies' from a timer setting their health to 0 instead of player input, but probably isn't script-proof to be invincible from players.
RIOOOOTTTT SURELY YOU ARE CHOKING ???:
"I hope you're ready for ARAM!"
"This isn't Aram.."
"I said. 'I hope you're ready'."
This is stuff i would expect from a random warcraft 3 dota clone map with anime characters.
The bug situation has developed not necessarily to Riot’s advantage.
I noticed this at the end of one of my ranked games! Everyone else was dead so Briar targeted the shopkeeper!
Well, atleast we have Vanguard to spot such things live, right? Right? Oh no, vanguard was busy spying on my data, so she got banned after the game
The fact shop has animation after destroyed it reminds me when people kill gatekeeper in lineage2
why do i feel that this is some relic of implementing aram not being able to back and buy items
OMG, everything IS CODED AS A MINON!!!
Rito's response: I TOLD YOU THIS EXISTS, IT WILL NOT BE FIXED, DEAL WITH IT.
it seems like the Shop has, for some reason, the same properties as the Nexus. Both gives 50g and it even gets destroyed the same exact way
Damn, it would honestly be a cool mechanic to add.
They hotfixed it... now only demacia themed champs can kill the noxus themed shopkeeper as part of the trade wars
At this point I'm just at a loss of words. I'm so glad I quit this game recently and I think more people should do the same. Maybe that will show them to treat their game and it's players seriously.
Riot wont care, as long as whales keep throwing their money at Riot they will keep making the game worse to bleed them of more and more money. We lost our chance to make an impact as a community when we tried boycotting champions instead of the actual game when the mythic scams started
Because of this? Meh
This is a very very niche exploit that can be done only with third side software, not even the worst one around, and it probably existed for years - just wasn't detected because of how niche and rare it is. There are way worse things in lol...
@Airin258 No. Not because of this. Because of everything.
Especially the recent changes.
“We cant beat them in the battlegrounds, so we’ll beat them on the markets”
From what I remember, when the game was created, they had a brilliant idea to code everything as a minion. Anivia wall is made out of "minions", walls are "minions", jarvan ultimate is "a minion", Azir wall is "a minion" a so on. They are untargetable the same goes for the shop. So, if you have a script to destroy the shop, you can do the same for everything above. Structures have hidden high amounts of hp, and when Ornn charges Anivias wall to destroy it, it just deals a huge amount of true damage to it. If you have damage numbers in settings set on, it used to show the damage done to these structures. League is an old game relying on legacy spaghetti code, and it would simpler to write a new game from scratch than fixing the current one. This is the true reason why the league will never be truly fixed. It is not humanly possible.
I wonder whether that might have been out of necessity.
The League engine is 15 years old after all and it was Riot's first game, so there likely wasn't a lot of budget around. The engine probably just doesn't allow for anything else and over the years they had to use minions everywhere as creative solutions for new abilities and stuff.
A "minion" is just a circle with a skin and a health bar. It's a normal way to programm, the real problem is that staff changes all the time.