A couple of corrections to make before you leave a comment about it, yes I am now aware that Sandstorm's alt mode is a SH3 Sea King, which is an older helicopter. The MH53 Pave Low, which is Movie Blackout's alt mode, is much larger but is made by the same manufacturer. Because of this, they look similar which is probably why the TF Wiki lists Sandstorm as the Pave Low. The Bumblebee movie Triple Changers alt modes are as follows - Blitzwing is a F-4 Phantom II. Shatter is a Harrier. The official Asian market poster I used has a red F-4 Phantom for her jet mode, but in the film she is a Harrier.
@RodimusPrimal I love it! as I do with most of your Transformers videos. There is though one piece of info that you forgot to mention and that is that Sandstorm and Octane are actually friends. This ties in with the DREAMWAVE story line that you mentioned in which Shockwave was experimenting with Cybertronians to create the Triple changes, but one detail in importance is that these Cybertronians were actually all Autobots POWs, and in his experiments he turned them into Decepticons. A lot of them were supposed to have shattered memories of their former lives as Autobots and maybe this is what happened with Sandstorm and Octane. They probably remember their time as prisoners along with Springer, Astrotrain and Blitzwing. Too bad DREAMWAVE closed under Chap 11, I much loved THEIR Transformer comic stories more so than IDW.
RodimusPrimal What did Optimus Prime mean when he said “...more alive?” in reference to losing the ability to transform? I’m a purist that only appreciates G1 and it’s feature length movie so I have no background at all on this concept. I utilize this video series to fill in the gaps of my knowledge. Therefore, I very much appreciate this series and your efforts to produce it - thank you!
@@RodimusPrimal You are the man for that! Ever since I saw that episode when I was a pre-teen, I never forgot that line. You are a true Transformers ambassador. Thanks so much for the content!
Astrotrain was my FIRST Decepticon and my second Transformer. Prime was my first transformer and my folks got me Astrotrain for Christmas so I'd have someone for Prime to fight.
Blitzwing has got to be one of the most mysterious and interesting Transformers, thanks for going deep on this subject. And that Astrotrain/Starscream plot...... wow.
@@lel0uchvibritannia981 I think Lani Bird218 is right. I mean how often did we see anyone other than Starscream try to overthrow Megatron and take control of the Decepticons? Starscream was quite often making it known he wanted to over throw Megatron, and every so often he tried to do so only to fail miserably. This episode had Starscream start off teaming with the triple changers to do that only for them to doublecross Starscream and try to take over for themselves. And fail even worse than he normaly would because while they did manage to get Megatron and Starscream temprarily out of the way, their plans to control things were ultimately doomed to fail.
To be honest the best Triple Changer in my opinion were the Horrorcons, yes they are not name officialy Triple Changer, but two headmasters that turn from robot to jet to deadly beast, was awesome
I agree. Headmasters AND triple changers! How can you go wrong? Well... OK, I suppose that could go VERY wrong... I had a friend when I was very young who had a G1 Apeface, and I thought that was one of the coolest toys ever. I've never experienced Snapdragon, except in the form of the pocket sized "Night" toy made by Unique Toys.
I love this channel! I'm a too young to have watched the Original G1 but I'm still very intrigued and curious about the original lore. You always deliver, satiating my insatiable curiosity again and again.
I recommend giving the original G1 cartoon a try. If you look around you might find a way to watch episodes online somewhere. It might not be as magical to watch as it was for 80s kids but it will give a better appreciation for where it all began and what the modern continuities are derived from.
@@unstoppableExodia I believe Amazon has episodes for sale to watch online. I know the Google Play store has Season 1 available. Wish they had Season 2 up, I need to get the second half of the season as I only have Season 2.0, aka the first half, on DVD so I don't I have the creation of the Stunticons, Aerialbots, Combaticons, or Prime on DVD. Though I do have all the important Dinobot episodes (at least the ones I think are important). I get Season 2.5 on DVD and I'll have all of G1 collected.
@@BamP0W99 He's quoting Five Faces of Darkness, when Springer got sucked up by the Harvester and dismantled. The Junkions put him back together. Or, as they'd say, "We can rebuild him. Faster. Stronger. Better." -- well. Much the same as before, really, which is still awesome.
Hey Roddy, I liked the "Airwolf" music you inserted there with the story on Springer! Not many youngsters will recognize that one! As for my thoughts on Starscream in the new Bumblebee movie,I dont like the whole thing with Blitzwing being easily mistaken for Starscream. I dont know if that was an uh-oh moment , or too many drinks that night or what, but personally, being an old school G1 guy,I think it sucks!! Hopefully the director will work this big crapstorm out! Triple changers...to me.... Should be any vehicle (including air, land ,or water), that takes on a complete change of either or twice, and have a robot form!...period. Great video Roddy! Thanks, and hope you have a very Merry Christmas, and all your viewers as well!!
"Megatron creates Triple Changers...THE MOST EVIL DECEPTICONS OF ALL!" So that means, what, they were three times as vile as the average 'Con? 😂 "Tankor," yes. "Octone," a definite "NO." Why did Casey Kasem leave the show again? Um...oh, yeah: "CARBOMBYA." 😑 I get they were looking to make almost any type of vehicle TF marketable, but Broadside was a mistake. AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER?? The cartoon was smart, keeping him a giant a la Omega Supreme, but it cost him the camaraderie with Sandstorm and Springer...except in the wonderful U.K. comics, of course. (But debuting Springer by himself in the movie ruined Autobot Triple Changer marketability anyway.) Along with Snap, Ape, and Scorponok, you can throw Fort Max in there as being a Triple Changer as well. Heck, Metroplex and Trypticon, too! But now we're gettin' nuts! 😆 As ever, I err on Dreamwave side of things, and I say Shockwave modified whatever natural abilities multi-changers had, resulting in Triple Changers, and Autobot spies stole the technology. As for Devastator forming inside of Astrotrain, well, that wasn't even the craziest part of the movie! 😉😂😂
@@r.a.overbee7174 True. "Blue Thunder" originated as a 1983 movie, and the TV series started a mere 16 days before "Airwolf". But while the movie was a success, the TV series didn't ilast very long. Both "Blue Thunder" and "Airwolf" were midseason replacements which began airing in January of the '83-'84 season. Intrestinyly, although "Blue Thunder" began Januray 6th and "Airwolf" January 22nd, "Airwolf's" season ended sooner with 12 episodes while "Blue Thunder" season ended two days later with only 11 episodes. "Airwolf" was picked up for a second season while "Blue Thunder" was canceled. And why was it canceled? Couple of reasons. First, ABC ran it against ratings success "Dallas", "Dallas" won that ratings war. Second, "Airwolf". ABC felt the two shows were too similar and that CBS's "Airwolf" would win the TV helicopter war so they just didn't bother. "Airwolf" ran for four seasons (though personally I don't count the crappy fourth season as that's like "Battlestar Galactica 1980", everyone you care about is gone)
well, that explains the badass music, was wondering where it was from. Although I now have the image of the copter from Airwolf replaced by Springer, and it's so good lol. And Rodimus has done a TV intro ua-cam.com/video/JRdEQy3paXw/v-deo.html
Really digging that background music starting at 3:39. It really goes well with all the explaining. Forgot about Six Shot until you mentioned it. Thanks for going deep!
great video again, just a side note Octane's story arc was to be part of Blitzwing's season 3 story arc. So that would have been Blitzwing releasing Starscream's ghost, just Hasbo wanted Octane to get more air time as he was the new toy on the store shelf then. Oh and Merry Christmas everyone.
I think that make sense. If I recalled (I haven't watched Animated in a long time), she was a scientist of some sort like trying to cure herself from the spider mutation and made Stinger into Waspinator!
Great job!!! I love how you incorporate everything!! Mad respect for the TF comics!! You do a hardcore fan proud! TIL ALL ARE ONE! (That Blitzwing quote at end is one of my favs!!) "tell me what's on you mind or I'll splatter it all over the wall and see it myself!!!" LMAO!!
*8:02* Airwolf! My big secret revealed. I used Springers helicopter mode as Airwolf. As always another really great Transformers video. Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Great video, love this topic. I wish you had made more mention of the Diaclone Helicopter/Tank/Robot that was around the same time as the Diaclone version of Blitzwing, but that is fine, as I didn't even know of its existence until this year. I do have some challenges to your theories though. First, I would suggest that Blitzwing might have been on Earth but NOT on the Ark, that he had been another Decepticon who had been aboard the Nemesis, like the Insecticons, but had been in another escape pod and simply been in stasis until discovery. Second, I would be extremely doubtful of the triple changer technology having been developed by the Quintessons due to canon issues. In the Five Faces of Darkness arc, the Cybertronians were shown fighting and driving the Quintesson forces off while in robot form, and it is stated that when the Decepticons took over, enslaving the Autobots, that the Autobots "turned to stealth and new power, the ability to transform". Therefore, the ability to transform at all was not present during the Quintesson's control of Cybertron, or else it would hardly be "new". I think it more likely that when the Decepticons copied the Autobot's ability to transform, that they conducted experiments in order to improve on it, resulting in not only triple changers but combiners, duo cons, and possibly laying the foundation for the titans as well. Sandstorm's off planet origin is simply explained by saying that his ancestors were willing or unwilling subjects to expand upon the transformation abilities of their race. On a final note, about what is and what is not a triple changer, there were some clear criteria set out by fans a while back that I think best defines them. First, they must be of normal size, at least figure wise. Titans such as Metroplex, Trypticon, and so on are so much larger that it is easier for them to have multiple modes, possibly even multiple transformation cogs to guide their transformation. Second, they must have three separate complete modes. This means that combiners, who have a third form as a module or component of a gestalt, and Transformers like Tracks and the Transmetals, whose third mode is simply a modification of the vehicle or animal mode, are not eligible. I would also point out that five out of the six "official" G1 Transformers had very powerful personalities and minds. All three Decepticon Triplechangers attempted to take over the Decepticons, while Springer was named as Rodimus Prime's successor and Sandstorm already was a leader on Paradron. If one considers the mental training Heatwave underwent in the Rescue Bots cartoon, it could be suggested that ANY Transformer with sufficient willpower can become a Triple changer, but that is another topic. As always, great video, can't wait to see your next one, and please let me know what you think, look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Here's the thing about learning to transform. They already had the ability since it's part of their bodies, hence the T-Cog. Also, there was construction vehicles in the peacetime part of the flashback. I say that not all early Transformers knew they had the ability to transform because the Quintessons programmed them not to think about it. It's like our Appendix. Many have had it removed but people aren't sure what it really does.
An interesting point, but one I'm not sure I agree with. As far as I know, there is no information as to when the T-Cog actually became standard for Cybertronians, especially in the G1 cartoon, so I must ask was it "originally" part of their bodies? It is entirely possible that the first few generations of Cybertronians lacked a T-Cog entirely, and that just as we have developed genetic engineering, Cybertronian scientists developed the T-Cog as an improvement on their original design which would go on to become standard for all future Cybertronians. The construction vehicles seen during the first golden age, when the Autobots and Decepticons lived in harmony, do indeed resemble the vehicle modes of the Constructicons, but we do not see them actually transform. While this may seem overly critical, I would say that without actual evidence of transformation, they may have simply been drones, operated by remote control. Even if they were actual Transformers, it would only prove that some, not all, Cybertronians had this ability. In any event, my point is that according to the Five Faces of Darkness, the transformation ability didn't appear to be common among the populace until years after the Quintessons left Cybertron, thus making it unlikely that they were behind the Triple Changer technology. I would suggest that they kept a close eye on the Cybertronians, and if possible would capture vulnerable subjects, such as explorers, scouts, or colonists, and use them as we would test subjects. This would let the Quintessons evaluate their progress, in the hope of recapturing Cybertron, and also see if there were any new technologies that they could exploit. It is by this method that the Quintessons developed the Sharkticons, and would continue to be experts on the Cybertronians despite having little to no contact in several million years.
@2:53 I just saw Megatron danced and it is so funny! @6:35 I didn't know a robot like Octane can get spooked by a ghost especially when it's Starscream. @8:02 Airwolf theme for Springer's transformation...hell,yeah!
Awesome video R.P.! You’re one of the best Transformers UA-camrs ever. I’m so disappointed in myself for not finding and subbing to your channel long time ago. I never got the opportunity to watch G1 except seeing many clips of it and the 1986 movie. I’m a movie, Animated and Prime fan but your videos really helps me learn so much of G1 and everything that makes Transformers such a great franchise. Absolutely liked this and the seekers video. Can’t wait to see more future videos. Keep up the good work bro 🙂
Astrotrain was among my favorite TF toys growing up as were the triple changers being one if my favorite gimmicks. Very cool look into their origins. With how Blitzwing recognizes but don't remember the Quitessons it makes you wonder if the Quintessons had had a fail safe, maybe like a mind wipe program to erase their memory of them after they were purged from Cybertron during the revolt or the Transformers truly just forgot about their original creators in the cartoon. Anyway back on topic. I think any TF with three distinct modes should be considered a Triple Changer. Emphasis on distinct as Tracks would not qualify since that mode is more of just a flying car like something out of M.A.S.K. Same with Perceptor even if the mode is a mobile lab it just seems to be a variation on his microscope mode. Very cool topic choice.
Man, that moment when Rodimus destroys Sandstorm's world, then is like "Yeah, my world's better anyways" always bothered me. Destroying the poor guy's planet was bad enough. Have the good sense to STFU afterward, lol.
Adding on your theory that Blitzwing was one of the Decepticon Seekers. You can be right on that. It’s possible when the Autobots and Decepticons crashed and were then revived and fixed by Teletran 1, Blitzwing was probably not fully fixed since the Autobots didn’t have triple changers at the time, and they probably don’t know the transformation sequence of triple changers work. Due to this, Blitzwing was changed into a normal Transformer with two alternate modes, which is a robot and jet. He would then be fixed later to be turned back into a triple changer.
As always, the videos you make are very intriguing. :-) I'd like to consider Robots that are Triple changers as Triple changers if their 2 other modes are very distinct. Guys like the 6 you mentioned are really Triple changers to me, but a robot like Metroplex and Tripticon who have 2 other modes but the other 2 modes are just minor adjustments to their other modes.
City bots in general probably shouldn’t have that classification anyway (after all by that logic the aligned version of triptocon is a triple changer until megatron locks him into his nemesis mode)
The Kup vs Blitzwing scene in the movie is one of my favorites, the Bumblebee movie Blitzwing seems like a pointless waste of a chance to pay homage to the original Starscream but whatever, great vid dude and great channel too, really indepth analysis and research and great approach to the content, many thanks
@@BasedVegeta This guy really is a delusional elitist geewhiner, if he thinks that Bumblebee's movie is awful. That being said, I'm not really fan of the Bayformers hate either. But that is just plain ridiculous.
When oberserving the Human Species it became somewhat clear to me that it often happens that some individuals can have the same names without encountering too much difficulty, although the latter fact can sometimes lead to certain strange thoughts and / or actions.
Carbombya, lol. Gotta love that name. Casey Kasem took offense at the character who was the leader, an obvious parody of Moamar Khadaffi. Or Ghadaffi or however you spell his name. Also, I heard that it was supposed to be Blitzwing in Starscream's Ghost instead of Octane, which would explain Starscream saying "old friend". And Sandstorm and Octane, though Autobot and Decepticon respectively, were good friends. There's a lot that was left out that should have been included here.
Awesome video again Rodimus. My spin on the Blitzwing overcharges bit is that after Blitzwing confrontation with Galvatron, Blitzwing was captured by the Quintessons and the Quints stole the triple changing technology. This is because, in the original cartoon, transforming was developed by the Autobots to combat the Decepticons, after the Quintessons left Cybertron. Although this could the story of transforming could be considered by some as Autobot propaganda. Wish Hasbro would give make a new G1 movie to tell the events of Springer's arrival on Earth, and whether or not he was a triple changer back on Cybertron (and how Ultra Magnus got his earth style alt-mode) and what was Broadside doing for the last 4M years (if anything).
I remember a Transformer who was both a Decepticon and an Autobot. I saw the commercial once. WHO IS he? Also, I saw a toy that was a sextuple changer. He appeared in one episode and killed all the aerialbots.
I think what should define a triple, or even a multiform changer, is separate and distinctly different modes. Blitzwing is an obvious example, and using the briefly shown picture of the Beast wars transmetals, I'd say Waspinator is the best, lower end example, as he has a jet cockpit, his bug mode legs form landing gear, jet thrusters are revealed when folding his back legs up against his body, and his wasp wings fold and reposition as jet wings and stabilizers. Most of the other Transmetals barely have enough changes happen to warrant truly calling their "third mode" a vehicle mode. So I feel those two examples realistically set the standard of what defines being a Triple changer.
I concur with your assessment of Bumblebee's Blitzwing, I think that he was just a random Seeker with the same name as the Triple Changer. It's not like it would be the first time characters have doubled down on a name, we already got two Eagle Eye's, Override's, etc.
Or maybe overcharge is in the bay formers universe and he is blitz wings personal friend and when overcharge finds out blitzwing is KIA he takes the name blitzwing to honor his name by killing as many autobots as he can
And then we have all of the Transmetal 1 characters in Beast Wars. Though they are described as having a 3rd "vehicle mode", most of them, especially the early ones like Cheetor, Rattrap, and Megatron, effectively just have Beast Modes with some "vehicular" parts, like wheels or jet boosters, and are more akin to Tracks' flight mode. Rampage and Depthcharge, however, actually do closer resemble having a true 3rd mode, since Rampage gets tank treads and can use his cannon in this form, and Depthcharge looks like a Cybertronian submarine. But, I wouldn't call them "Triple Changers" because they already have the title "Transmetal". I WOULD call Optimal Optimus a "Multichanger", though, since his new form was created by Primal housing Prime's Spark, so it effectively rebuilt him to be more like the ancient Cybertronians than the Beast Wars era bots.
Every transformer with a 3rd mode should be considered a triple changer. This not te case for Tracks, or the Beast wars Transmetals wich have a an enhanced mode. For example the flying car for Tracks it´s a flying car, it can fly but it´s still a car, so it´s an enhanced car, not another mode. Now, Galvatron from the Cybertron Cartoon, is a triple changer, a car, a Jet and a Robot mode. PS: Your Airwolf Reference was GREAT!
Boy, those original G1 packages seem like they would confuse the hell out of a noob consumer. ha! To answer the question: By description/specification alone, one can consider any transformer with a default form and two distinct alternate modes a Triple-changer. Whether they are called such in storylines does not discount that. Blitzwing was the first and still my favorite of the entire bunch. Thank the Quintessons for creating him, and thank you for the video.
Personally, I think that if the toy AND the cartoon character both transform in three seperate modes, (robot & two alt modes) then they fall under the triple-changer banner. By this logic I would include Apeface, Snapdragon, Doubledealer, Scorponok, & Cybertron's Megatron. Punch-CounterPunch I'm kinda on the fence about because although he does have three different modes, two of then are just robots. SixShot, QuickSwitch, and RID's Megatron are already known as Six-Changers or Multi-Changers.
To me, a Triple Changer is a Cybertronian that has two completely distinct and different alt. modes and can still become a robot. I'm sure that's also probably how a lot of people view it as well
A couple of corrections to make before you leave a comment about it, yes I am now aware that Sandstorm's alt mode is a SH3 Sea King, which is an older helicopter. The MH53 Pave Low, which is Movie Blackout's alt mode, is much larger but is made by the same manufacturer. Because of this, they look similar which is probably why the TF Wiki lists Sandstorm as the Pave Low. The Bumblebee movie Triple Changers alt modes are as follows - Blitzwing is a F-4 Phantom II. Shatter is a Harrier. The official Asian market poster I used has a red F-4 Phantom for her jet mode, but in the film she is a Harrier.
It's okay RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal I love it! as I do with most of your Transformers videos. There is though one piece of info that you forgot to mention and that is that Sandstorm and Octane are actually friends. This ties in with the DREAMWAVE story line that you mentioned in which Shockwave was experimenting with Cybertronians to create the Triple changes, but one detail in importance is that these Cybertronians were actually all Autobots POWs, and in his experiments he turned them into Decepticons. A lot of them were supposed to have shattered memories of their former lives as Autobots and maybe this is what happened with Sandstorm and Octane. They probably remember their time as prisoners along with Springer, Astrotrain and Blitzwing. Too bad DREAMWAVE closed under Chap 11, I much loved THEIR Transformer comic stories more so than IDW.
do one for sixshot!!!
RodimusPrimal
Well that explains a lot rather than me doing conflicts to other peeps
RodimusPrimal
What did Optimus Prime mean when he said “...more alive?” in reference to losing the ability to transform? I’m a purist that only appreciates G1 and it’s feature length movie so I have no background at all on this concept. I utilize this video series to fill in the gaps of my knowledge. Therefore, I very much appreciate this series and your efforts to produce it - thank you!
How ironic Blitzwing isn’t a triple changer in Bumblebee, yet the two new characters are!
Kristopher Shafer I have seen the movie, Blitzwing isn’t a triplechanger. The toyline is a bunch of crap!
LMAO
Disappointed on that for real.
I guess the director doesn't know everything about the Transformers
@@Pernection It was Probably Starscream until complications with the timeline
"Hey Blitzwing.....Tank you" Hahahahahaha....I'm sorry, 'til this day that line and the way it was delivered still amuses me.
That line was too perfect not to include!
@@RodimusPrimal You are the man for that! Ever since I saw that episode when I was a pre-teen, I never forgot that line. You are a true Transformers ambassador. Thanks so much for the content!
powerglide - no decepticon gots the zip to zap me
It is an all-time Classic. Like
“Wanna bet?”
@@RodimusPrimal can i call the seekers doritos?
When I saw Astrotrain transform from train to space shuttle, when I first saw the ‘86 movie as a kid. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
What's so cool about it is that all of the Decepticons were INSIDE of him.
Astrotrain was my FIRST Decepticon and my second Transformer. Prime was my first transformer and my folks got me Astrotrain for Christmas so I'd have someone for Prime to fight.
"Tell me what's on your mind or I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself" dang thats dark
Blitzwing has a way with words! Lol
"Come on down, Autobrat!"
Same episode “I Win!” (Proceeds to destroy more stuff)
That doesn't even make any sense! XD
Blitzwing has got to be one of the most mysterious and interesting Transformers, thanks for going deep on this subject. And that Astrotrain/Starscream plot...... wow.
The reason that brawl's name is devastator is that Michael bay sucks
My favorite part i couldn't stop laughing.
More like Michael Bay doesn’t care about the Internet’s feelings as he’s too busy making money and having a life.
Well, he was going to change it to brawl but there was time constraints
"Die like the worm you are!" 😂 awesome line by astrotrain
Astrotrain was basically the decepticons Packmule.
The episode triple takeover was ridiculously funny.
Yeah, it was, but it is a favorite episode of mine. Because it shows the Decepticons thirst for conquest
@@lel0uchvibritannia981
Decepticons other than Starscream that is
Lani Bird218 No, I think Starscream also seeks conquest and I believe that he believes usurping Megatron would be the greatest achievement
I’m still waiting on toys of Astro-Train’s Astro-Force.
@@lel0uchvibritannia981 I think Lani Bird218 is right. I mean how often did we see anyone other than Starscream try to overthrow Megatron and take control of the Decepticons? Starscream was quite often making it known he wanted to over throw Megatron, and every so often he tried to do so only to fail miserably. This episode had Starscream start off teaming with the triple changers to do that only for them to doublecross Starscream and try to take over for themselves. And fail even worse than he normaly would because while they did manage to get Megatron and Starscream temprarily out of the way, their plans to control things were ultimately doomed to fail.
I always saw Springer as the Han Solo of Transformers.
Same
Same
Actually the 1986 cast where based out of the original star wars
@@lilianemachadostigliano1727 that's cool
That means Arcee is Leia
To be honest the best Triple Changer in my opinion were the Horrorcons, yes they are not name officialy Triple Changer, but two headmasters that turn from robot to jet to deadly beast, was awesome
I personally think snap dragon was one of the best transformers toys ever produced
I agree. Headmasters AND triple changers! How can you go wrong? Well... OK, I suppose that could go VERY wrong...
I had a friend when I was very young who had a G1 Apeface, and I thought that was one of the coolest toys ever. I've never experienced Snapdragon, except in the form of the pocket sized "Night" toy made by Unique Toys.
@@NemesisTomato I had g1 snapdragon he's seriously awesome. All his modes look great which could be hard for triple changers
Snapdragon and Apeface
Anyone recognize the AirWolf theme song?
I had theme stuck in my head while working on this video. So much so that I did the whole intro! ua-cam.com/video/JRdEQy3paXw/v-deo.html
Blitzwing looks bad ass, he's actually both a mig and a soviet tank.
No hes a japanese tank
Yet he had a German accent in animated LOL
The German accent in Animated was due to the 'blitz' in his name making it appropriate.
Actually he was an F-4 Phantom II, and what looked like a british Centurion, from what little I've seen in the comic.
Even though he has a German name
I love this channel! I'm a too young to have watched the Original G1 but I'm still very intrigued and curious about the original lore. You always deliver, satiating my insatiable curiosity again and again.
If it is insatiable, how does he satiate it?
I recommend giving the original G1 cartoon a try. If you look around you might find a way to watch episodes online somewhere. It might not be as magical to watch as it was for 80s kids but it will give a better appreciation for where it all began and what the modern continuities are derived from.
Agreed. I was introduced to Transformers by the Unicron trilogy.
@@unstoppableExodia I believe Amazon has episodes for sale to watch online. I know the Google Play store has Season 1 available. Wish they had Season 2 up, I need to get the second half of the season as I only have Season 2.0, aka the first half, on DVD so I don't I have the creation of the Stunticons, Aerialbots, Combaticons, or Prime on DVD. Though I do have all the important Dinobot episodes (at least the ones I think are important). I get Season 2.5 on DVD and I'll have all of G1 collected.
Richard Greenleaf those are some good suggestions for legal ways to watch it online
Springer: I got better things to do tonight than di- (dies)
He died?
It's a joke
Gross
@@filletofish2200 how is it gross
@@BamP0W99 He's quoting Five Faces of Darkness, when Springer got sucked up by the Harvester and dismantled. The Junkions put him back together. Or, as they'd say, "We can rebuild him. Faster. Stronger. Better." -- well. Much the same as before, really, which is still awesome.
Hey Roddy, I liked the "Airwolf" music you inserted there with the story on Springer! Not many youngsters will recognize that one! As for my thoughts on Starscream in the new Bumblebee movie,I dont like the whole thing with Blitzwing being easily mistaken for Starscream. I dont know if that was an uh-oh moment , or too many drinks that night or what, but personally, being an old school G1 guy,I think it sucks!! Hopefully the director will work this big crapstorm out! Triple changers...to me.... Should be any vehicle (including air, land ,or water), that takes on a complete change of either or twice, and have a robot form!...period. Great video Roddy! Thanks, and hope you have a very Merry Christmas, and all your viewers as well!!
I've been thinking about doing something with Airwolf and Springer since I did that Combaticons video.
RodimusPrimal love those unexpected 80s cross overs
I too love the Airwolf nod.
I noticed that too
I used to watch Airwolf back in the day
All they need for astrotrain now is NASA sponcersip
That black and white Astrotrain did look very cool
Elon, get on it!
The first ever triple changer was Blitzwing?! Holy crap! & Astrotrain!
First a dank starscream, now a dank skywarp?! How many dank seekers are there?!
Chevy234 Gaming Actually every Seeker is on UA-cam except Ramjet, generics, & Slipstream
@@skywarp1470 hi other dorito >:3
@@thegreeter1476 thats not movie Starscream
Springer identifies as an attack helicopter = )
Take your thumb, damnit.
7:59 now he's the one who can TRULY identify himself as an attack helicopter
YarugumaSou I think AstroTrain transform into a JNR Class D62 2-8-4 Berkshire Steam Locomotive and a Space Shuttle
2:07 amazing art. This one is a perfect mementos for Mr Angel.
2:53 Megatron Show off his ballerina skills.
"Megatron creates Triple Changers...THE MOST EVIL DECEPTICONS OF ALL!" So that means, what, they were three times as vile as the average 'Con? 😂
"Tankor," yes. "Octone," a definite "NO."
Why did Casey Kasem leave the show again? Um...oh, yeah: "CARBOMBYA." 😑
I get they were looking to make almost any type of vehicle TF marketable, but Broadside was a mistake. AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER?? The cartoon was smart, keeping him a giant a la Omega Supreme, but it cost him the camaraderie with Sandstorm and Springer...except in the wonderful U.K. comics, of course. (But debuting Springer by himself in the movie ruined Autobot Triple Changer marketability anyway.)
Along with Snap, Ape, and Scorponok, you can throw Fort Max in there as being a Triple Changer as well. Heck, Metroplex and Trypticon, too! But now we're gettin' nuts! 😆
As ever, I err on Dreamwave side of things, and I say Shockwave modified whatever natural abilities multi-changers had, resulting in Triple Changers, and Autobot spies stole the technology.
As for Devastator forming inside of Astrotrain, well, that wasn't even the craziest part of the movie! 😉😂😂
Octonus prime
Airwolf theme song reference at 8:00 FTW! Airwolf superior, Blue Thunder inferior!
@likeits1985 ua-cam.com/video/TxIBGqIM6jI/v-deo.html
Very nice, Soundwave
Blue Thunder came 1st and you got'a like the term JAFO
@@r.a.overbee7174 True. "Blue Thunder" originated as a 1983 movie, and the TV series started a mere 16 days before "Airwolf". But while the movie was a success, the TV series didn't ilast very long. Both "Blue Thunder" and "Airwolf" were midseason replacements which began airing in January of the '83-'84 season. Intrestinyly, although "Blue Thunder" began Januray 6th and "Airwolf" January 22nd, "Airwolf's" season ended sooner with 12 episodes while "Blue Thunder" season ended two days later with only 11 episodes. "Airwolf" was picked up for a second season while "Blue Thunder" was canceled. And why was it canceled? Couple of reasons. First, ABC ran it against ratings success "Dallas", "Dallas" won that ratings war. Second, "Airwolf". ABC felt the two shows were too similar and that CBS's "Airwolf" would win the TV helicopter war so they just didn't bother. "Airwolf" ran for four seasons (though personally I don't count the crappy fourth season as that's like "Battlestar Galactica 1980", everyone you care about is gone)
well, that explains the badass music, was wondering where it was from. Although I now have the image of the copter from Airwolf replaced by Springer, and it's so good lol. And Rodimus has done a TV intro ua-cam.com/video/JRdEQy3paXw/v-deo.html
Really digging that background music starting at 3:39. It really goes well with all the explaining. Forgot about Six Shot until you mentioned it. Thanks for going deep!
great video again, just a side note Octane's story arc was to be part of Blitzwing's season 3 story arc. So that would have been Blitzwing releasing Starscream's ghost, just Hasbo wanted Octane to get more air time as he was the new toy on the store shelf then. Oh and Merry Christmas everyone.
and before that, Blitzwing’s role in Five Faces Of Darkness was gonna be Shockwave’s.
Wait...hold up Blackarachnia gave Blitzwing three faces? Okay, maybe that explains why she calls him "Three Face".
I think that make sense.
If I recalled (I haven't watched Animated in a long time), she was a scientist of some sort like trying to cure herself from the spider mutation and made Stinger into Waspinator!
It's Wasp not Stinger.
Great job!!! I love how you incorporate everything!! Mad respect for the TF comics!! You do a hardcore fan proud! TIL ALL ARE ONE! (That Blitzwing quote at end is one of my favs!!) "tell me what's on you mind or I'll splatter it all over the wall and see it myself!!!" LMAO!!
*8:02* Airwolf! My big secret revealed. I used Springers helicopter mode as Airwolf.
As always another really great Transformers video. Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too.
Springers' soundtrack is also a remix of the soundtrack for Airwolf!!
I learn so much when you upload these...thank you
I gave you a like because you held my attention for 17 minutes on a subject that I'm not interested in good job!
Love the air wolf music
İ wished that blitzwing would first come as a jet than go to ground in tank mode than, turn to robot mode
That would be badass as hell
Great video!! I personally loved Animated's take that triple changers have multiple personalities & faces. Wish they'd do that again
Great video, love this topic. I wish you had made more mention of the Diaclone Helicopter/Tank/Robot that was around the same time as the Diaclone version of Blitzwing, but that is fine, as I didn't even know of its existence until this year. I do have some challenges to your theories though. First, I would suggest that Blitzwing might have been on Earth but NOT on the Ark, that he had been another Decepticon who had been aboard the Nemesis, like the Insecticons, but had been in another escape pod and simply been in stasis until discovery. Second, I would be extremely doubtful of the triple changer technology having been developed by the Quintessons due to canon issues. In the Five Faces of Darkness arc, the Cybertronians were shown fighting and driving the Quintesson forces off while in robot form, and it is stated that when the Decepticons took over, enslaving the Autobots, that the Autobots "turned to stealth and new power, the ability to transform". Therefore, the ability to transform at all was not present during the Quintesson's control of Cybertron, or else it would hardly be "new". I think it more likely that when the Decepticons copied the Autobot's ability to transform, that they conducted experiments in order to improve on it, resulting in not only triple changers but combiners, duo cons, and possibly laying the foundation for the titans as well. Sandstorm's off planet origin is simply explained by saying that his ancestors were willing or unwilling subjects to expand upon the transformation abilities of their race.
On a final note, about what is and what is not a triple changer, there were some clear criteria set out by fans a while back that I think best defines them. First, they must be of normal size, at least figure wise. Titans such as Metroplex, Trypticon, and so on are so much larger that it is easier for them to have multiple modes, possibly even multiple transformation cogs to guide their transformation. Second, they must have three separate complete modes. This means that combiners, who have a third form as a module or component of a gestalt, and Transformers like Tracks and the Transmetals, whose third mode is simply a modification of the vehicle or animal mode, are not eligible. I would also point out that five out of the six "official" G1 Transformers had very powerful personalities and minds. All three Decepticon Triplechangers attempted to take over the Decepticons, while Springer was named as Rodimus Prime's successor and Sandstorm already was a leader on Paradron. If one considers the mental training Heatwave underwent in the Rescue Bots cartoon, it could be suggested that ANY Transformer with sufficient willpower can become a Triple changer, but that is another topic. As always, great video, can't wait to see your next one, and please let me know what you think, look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Here's the thing about learning to transform. They already had the ability since it's part of their bodies, hence the T-Cog. Also, there was construction vehicles in the peacetime part of the flashback. I say that not all early Transformers knew they had the ability to transform because the Quintessons programmed them not to think about it. It's like our Appendix. Many have had it removed but people aren't sure what it really does.
An interesting point, but one I'm not sure I agree with. As far as I know, there is no information as to when the T-Cog actually became standard for Cybertronians, especially in the G1 cartoon, so I must ask was it "originally" part of their bodies? It is entirely possible that the first few generations of Cybertronians lacked a T-Cog entirely, and that just as we have developed genetic engineering, Cybertronian scientists developed the T-Cog as an improvement on their original design which would go on to become standard for all future Cybertronians. The construction vehicles seen during the first golden age, when the Autobots and Decepticons lived in harmony, do indeed resemble the vehicle modes of the Constructicons, but we do not see them actually transform. While this may seem overly critical, I would say that without actual evidence of transformation, they may have simply been drones, operated by remote control. Even if they were actual Transformers, it would only prove that some, not all, Cybertronians had this ability.
In any event, my point is that according to the Five Faces of Darkness, the transformation ability didn't appear to be common among the populace until years after the Quintessons left Cybertron, thus making it unlikely that they were behind the Triple Changer technology. I would suggest that they kept a close eye on the Cybertronians, and if possible would capture vulnerable subjects, such as explorers, scouts, or colonists, and use them as we would test subjects. This would let the Quintessons evaluate their progress, in the hope of recapturing Cybertron, and also see if there were any new technologies that they could exploit. It is by this method that the Quintessons developed the Sharkticons, and would continue to be experts on the Cybertronians despite having little to no contact in several million years.
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The Airwolf reference is hilarious! I laughed just like I did when you did the A-Team reference in one of your other episodes!
Thanks! I also did an Unsolved Mysteries reference in another video too!
@@RodimusPrimal which video is it?
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That would be the video pointing out all confirmed deaths in Transformers: The Movie.
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I just saw Megatron danced and it is so funny!
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I didn't know a robot like Octane can get spooked by a ghost especially when it's Starscream.
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Airwolf theme for Springer's transformation...hell,yeah!
A big thank you for all of your videos. Hope your family have A Prime Christmas and A to all are one New Year. So Transform and Roll Out for 2019.
Another great video made Rodimus and I'm going to see bubblebee this Friday and i will tell you after i see it
You gain my love and respect for using one of the best quotes in the Transformers Movie, “COME ON DOWN AUTOBRAT!”
I appreciate the Air Wolf reference!
Awesome video as usual. Airwolf tune at 8.00 mins, pure class.
Another great video from my favorite TF UA-camr.
YOU.ARE.AMAZING!!
I DON'T KNOW ALL OF TRANSFORMERS BUT YOU ARE HELPING ME!
Another great video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! It's a lot of hard work to make these videos.
Awesome video R.P.! You’re one of the best Transformers UA-camrs ever. I’m so disappointed in myself for not finding and subbing to your channel long time ago. I never got the opportunity to watch G1 except seeing many clips of it and the 1986 movie. I’m a movie, Animated and Prime fan but your videos really helps me learn so much of G1 and everything that makes Transformers such a great franchise. Absolutely liked this and the seekers video. Can’t wait to see more future videos. Keep up the good work bro 🙂
Astrotrain was among my favorite TF toys growing up as were the triple changers being one if my favorite gimmicks. Very cool look into their origins. With how Blitzwing recognizes but don't remember the Quitessons it makes you wonder if the Quintessons had had a fail safe, maybe like a mind wipe program to erase their memory of them after they were purged from Cybertron during the revolt or the Transformers truly just forgot about their original creators in the cartoon.
Anyway back on topic. I think any TF with three distinct modes should be considered a Triple Changer. Emphasis on distinct as Tracks would not qualify since that mode is more of just a flying car like something out of M.A.S.K. Same with Perceptor even if the mode is a mobile lab it just seems to be a variation on his microscope mode. Very cool topic choice.
Nice Airwolf theme at around 8:05, instantly recognized it.
Man, that moment when Rodimus destroys Sandstorm's world, then is like "Yeah, my world's better anyways" always bothered me. Destroying the poor guy's planet was bad enough. Have the good sense to STFU afterward, lol.
He's all like "ah you'll get over it no big deal."
Almost as if he were accelerated to adulthood from adolescence without developing emotionally!
It's like "happy festival fireworks!"
GROSS
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Transforms into an aircraft carrier.
Then the aircraft.
You gotta love that.
Over Charge your credit card? Change your name
to Blitzwing
Chris Vellner AstroTrain transforms from a JNR Class D62 2-8-4 Steam locomotive to a Space Shuttle
I always wondered if Tracks was a triple changer. Thanks for explaining.
Adding on your theory that Blitzwing was one of the Decepticon Seekers. You can be right on that. It’s possible when the Autobots and Decepticons crashed and were then revived and fixed by Teletran 1, Blitzwing was probably not fully fixed since the Autobots didn’t have triple changers at the time, and they probably don’t know the transformation sequence of triple changers work. Due to this, Blitzwing was changed into a normal Transformer with two alternate modes, which is a robot and jet. He would then be fixed later to be turned back into a triple changer.
Yes! I love this theory!
Thank you for showing Mixmaster, for me he is actually Quadraple-Changer, his Toy box said its triple changer, Nice video!
I find it ironic how Broadside, who transforms into a boat and jet, has a fear of heights and gets sea sick easily
Great perspective on triple changers here Optimus Primal!! Keep the videos coming can't wait for the next one.
I wish Hasbro used the Helicopter Jet Triple Changer for the Transformers line as a Decepticon since there are more Autobots than Decepticons.
That would have been cool. Shame as it would have fit in nicely.
Dark Scream the AH-1JSDF to a F-14 tomcat (i guess) to a robot
As always, the videos you make are very intriguing.
:-)
I'd like to consider Robots that are Triple changers as Triple changers if their 2 other modes are very distinct. Guys like the 6 you mentioned are really Triple changers to me, but a robot like Metroplex and Tripticon who have 2 other modes but the other 2 modes are just minor adjustments to their other modes.
City bots in general probably shouldn’t have that classification anyway (after all by that logic the aligned version of triptocon is a triple changer until megatron locks him into his nemesis mode)
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Starts laughing at the attack helicopter
This video is great and was enhanced further by mentioning the Six Changers and RID Galvatron with a total of 10 altmodes. Again, great video.
The Kup vs Blitzwing scene in the movie is one of my favorites, the Bumblebee movie Blitzwing seems like a pointless waste of a chance to pay homage to the original Starscream but whatever, great vid dude and great channel too, really indepth analysis and research and great approach to the content, many thanks
They couldn't name him Starscream because this character dies in like 5 minutes
@@mano7636 ahh gotcha, that explains why they didn't use his name
@@mano7636 Also Travis Knight would betray fans if he just kills off Starscream in a Bumblebee movie
Rewatching this video before Christmas the nostalgia!!!
Wow I didn't expect the airwolf theme
I was glad they gave me the go ahead!
@@RodimusPrimal nice job dude
I LOVE triple changers. Great video bro!
#1 movies don’t count. They’re awful!
#2 thanks for this awesome video
@@BasedVegeta This guy really is a delusional elitist geewhiner, if he thinks that Bumblebee's movie is awful. That being said, I'm not really fan of the Bayformers hate either. But that is just plain ridiculous.
When oberserving the Human Species
it became somewhat clear to me that it often happens that some individuals can have the same names without encountering too much difficulty, although the latter fact can sometimes lead to certain strange thoughts and / or actions.
Lol nice airwolf theme
Carbombya, lol. Gotta love that name. Casey Kasem took offense at the character who was the leader, an obvious parody of Moamar Khadaffi. Or Ghadaffi or however you spell his name. Also, I heard that it was supposed to be Blitzwing in Starscream's Ghost instead of Octane, which would explain Starscream saying "old friend". And Sandstorm and Octane, though Autobot and Decepticon respectively, were good friends. There's a lot that was left out that should have been included here.
Three modes= triple the fun
Rock version of the airwolf theme, nice touch!
Waiting for the that's not blitzwing jokes
Same here. Of course if folks watch all the way through.
Great work. Very in depth, and a good source of info.
Thanks!
anyone else get Sandstorm's name confused with Sunstorm?
Quick, how does Sandstorm go? :P
I wish I could double thumbs up this video for the Airwolf theme guitar cameo!
Check out the full intro mash up too! ua-cam.com/video/JRdEQy3paXw/v-deo.html
Springer became a triple changer when he chose the attack helicopter as his new gender. xD
HypertronDE As well as Sandstorm and the unreleased Diaclone Helicopter/Jet Triple Changer.
Awesome video again Rodimus. My spin on the Blitzwing overcharges bit is that after Blitzwing confrontation with Galvatron, Blitzwing was captured by the Quintessons and the Quints stole the triple changing technology. This is because, in the original cartoon, transforming was developed by the Autobots to combat the Decepticons, after the Quintessons left Cybertron. Although this could the story of transforming could be considered by some as Autobot propaganda.
Wish Hasbro would give make a new G1 movie to tell the events of Springer's arrival on Earth, and whether or not he was a triple changer back on Cybertron (and how Ultra Magnus got his earth style alt-mode) and what was Broadside doing for the last 4M years (if anything).
I remember a Transformer who was both a Decepticon and an Autobot. I saw the commercial once. WHO IS he?
Also, I saw a toy that was a sextuple changer. He appeared in one episode and killed all the aerialbots.
This should answer your first question. ua-cam.com/video/WRV6lr_LH1g/v-deo.html
I think what should define a triple, or even a multiform changer, is separate and distinctly different modes. Blitzwing is an obvious example, and using the briefly shown picture of the Beast wars transmetals, I'd say Waspinator is the best, lower end example, as he has a jet cockpit, his bug mode legs form landing gear, jet thrusters are revealed when folding his back legs up against his body, and his wasp wings fold and reposition as jet wings and stabilizers. Most of the other Transmetals barely have enough changes happen to warrant truly calling their "third mode" a vehicle mode. So I feel those two examples realistically set the standard of what defines being a Triple changer.
I was always a big fan of Blitzwing and Astrotrain. Definitely my favorite triple changers then probably Springer rounds out my top 3 triple changers
Love this video! I think the true triple changers are the original six. My brother had blitzwing and I enjoyed playing with Blitzwing.
Nice use of the AIRWOLF theme that was cool.
Thanks. I also did an Airwolf intro mash up too. ua-cam.com/video/JRdEQy3paXw/v-deo.html
I concur with your assessment of Bumblebee's Blitzwing, I think that he was just a random Seeker with the same name as the Triple Changer. It's not like it would be the first time characters have doubled down on a name, we already got two Eagle Eye's, Override's, etc.
Or maybe overcharge is in the bay formers universe and he is blitz wings personal friend and when overcharge finds out blitzwing is KIA he takes the name blitzwing to honor his name by killing as many autobots as he can
@@turogamer-oi4nq possible but in my experience the simplest explanation is typically the best
And then we have all of the Transmetal 1 characters in Beast Wars. Though they are described as having a 3rd "vehicle mode", most of them, especially the early ones like Cheetor, Rattrap, and Megatron, effectively just have Beast Modes with some "vehicular" parts, like wheels or jet boosters, and are more akin to Tracks' flight mode. Rampage and Depthcharge, however, actually do closer resemble having a true 3rd mode, since Rampage gets tank treads and can use his cannon in this form, and Depthcharge looks like a Cybertronian submarine. But, I wouldn't call them "Triple Changers" because they already have the title "Transmetal". I WOULD call Optimal Optimus a "Multichanger", though, since his new form was created by Primal housing Prime's Spark, so it effectively rebuilt him to be more like the ancient Cybertronians than the Beast Wars era bots.
Every transformer with a 3rd mode should be considered a triple changer. This not te case for Tracks, or the Beast wars Transmetals wich have a an enhanced mode. For example the flying car for Tracks it´s a flying car, it can fly but it´s still a car, so it´s an enhanced car, not another mode. Now, Galvatron from the Cybertron Cartoon, is a triple changer, a car, a Jet and a Robot mode.
PS: Your Airwolf Reference was GREAT!
Nice use of the Airwolf tune
Boy, those original G1 packages seem like they would confuse the hell out of a noob consumer. ha!
To answer the question: By description/specification alone, one can consider any transformer with a default form and two distinct alternate modes a Triple-changer. Whether they are called such in storylines does not discount that. Blitzwing was the first and still my favorite of the entire bunch. Thank the Quintessons for creating him, and thank you for the video.
Great video as usual dude I've always wondered this myself
Loved your content on Triple Changers..
I love this channel so much keep up the great work👍
I live in Australia and I'm going to see Bumblebee today before everyone in America
Thanks! I saw it on December 8th with a special early screening.
@@RodimusPrimal I just watched Bumblebee
The designs were awesome and that opening scene was the best thing I've ever seen in the world 😍😍
Personally, I think that if the toy AND the cartoon character both transform in three seperate modes, (robot & two alt modes) then they fall under the triple-changer banner. By this logic I would include Apeface, Snapdragon, Doubledealer, Scorponok, & Cybertron's Megatron. Punch-CounterPunch I'm kinda on the fence about because although he does have three different modes, two of then are just robots. SixShot, QuickSwitch, and RID's Megatron are already known as Six-Changers or Multi-Changers.
Triple Changers are rad. Other than that, gr8 review, Rodimus Primal and cool Transformers Channel sir, kek-kek:).
you are so serious about the 80s series , i like it
the intro is one sick beat
To me, a Triple Changer is a Cybertronian that has two completely distinct and different alt. modes and can still become a robot. I'm sure that's also probably how a lot of people view it as well
I would also caviatte that they cannot fall under other mode variations such as combiner or whatever the hell skylinks falls under
Awesome video as usual. Keep it up.
Wow, really great video. So quality content.
Metroplex, Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok could be considered triple-changers. And if you were being generous, Punch/Counterpunch!
Thank you for another great video