CSX Quiet Zone Crossings Installed Wrong Horns Blow For Now
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- This is a video I made in front of a Fox 13 news truck and breaking news information I am getting out to all my subscribers.
The Lakeland Florida quiet zone will not go in to effect yet.
The crossing signals were installed incorrectly.
Watch the end of this video for the Fox 13 news on this breaking story.
It's the law to blow the horn! It's for safety reasons! As a employee on the UP, I strongly agree that horns must blow!
I was in class at a school in Fremont Nebraska. They are too loud to be blown at Johnson Rd.
Let the train horns blow! No quiet zones!
Agreed.
I also agree.
Agreed
I agreed
agreed. people who hate the horns in Lakeland are stupid the trains were there before them if they really hate it, they should just move out of town.
"Hey, let's set up a dance class right next to the train tracks and then bitch about the noise"
Agreed Kota
I stand right by locomotives blaring the horn and it doesn't hurt my ears
Lol
Mr Madeleine of
Runnin' Eight 😂😂😂I know right
If I was that Amtrak driver I would’ve been blowing the horn with no mercy allllll through the to-be quiet zone.
The business owners made the choice to locate their businesses right next to the tracks. Didn't they realize that trains are loud? The dance instructor in the news story leaves the back door open and complains about the loud train horns. Pure stupidity.
I have to agree. If people don't like them, then they can just move somewhere else. Let the railfans move in and just railfans.
Yea, just move your damn facility to a place where no railroads are for 25 miles
THEY DONT CERE ABOUT THE THUNDERSTORMS THEY CERE ABOUT THE F*CKING TRAIN
I have never heard of a more ridiculous idea.... The horns are blown for safety!
you are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right
Yep
Cars*
So then why aren't cars required to blow horns at every intersection they approach? Every year, 350,000 people are injured and 50,000 are killed in car crashes. Every year, 1,200 people are killed at railroad crossings.
what if its a neighborhood
This is insane. I bet those tracks and those trains were there long before anyone set up a yoga studio right next to them. The only safe solution is a full grade separation.
It's their fault for being by the rails. The rails were there first.
It should be against the laws for the bells on signals to stop ringing in quiet zones. It is in Canada.
Most Quiet zones have Quad Gates,Bells on 2/4 signals and the bells usually ring the whole time
Tere are no bells in canada? 🇨🇦
Typical. Pretty sure that track, with trains and horns, were there before they started their businesses in the area.
I think I'll buy a house next to the airport and complain about the noise after I lived there for a few months.
TheSukitani very true.
Why is that place a quiet zone? We railfanners HATE quiet zones!
+Oregon Railfan Productions I know!
Trevor Sparks stupid people, always ruining our fun. "If you don't like it, get the heck outta here!"
+Ryan Cord but still...no horns! WAAAAAAAAA!
Agreed
Trains N' Stuff HAAAAAAATE Quiet Zones
People are stupid. If your gonna live next to the tracks get used to the noise. The horn is to tell people that there is a train coming. IT SAVES LIVES. What happens when the gates malfunction and a train comes by and the gates aren't down? If your gonna cry about the noise the train makes don't live my the tracks. And if you are gonna shut up and deal with it...
You tell them Right On
She says that they are a lot of trains, yet they say that there are only 20 trains a day! Unless you're dancing all day that's only one or two trains during a dance session! Also in my town the train blows the horn all the tin and nobody complains! Not even the restraints that are literally right next to the crossing! The music in that dance studio was also very quiet. They should turn up the volume a bit. THE HORN IS MATTER OF SAFETY, not annoying your dance studio. LET THE HORN BLOW!
To be fair the owner probably lives in the studio
Lazys The Dank Engineer how many times have you seen cars run the gates?
Lazys The Dank Engineer exactly so that’s why they blow the horn
I live down the block from a Long Island Railroad Crossing. Trains pass a lot more than 20 times a day. Those horns don't bother me. Those trains have horns for a reason. They tend to keep people ALIVE!!!! Quiet zones be damned.
lots of trains+lots of horns= railfan paradise
Agreed
When I become a engineer,I will personally break a ditch light just so I can sound the horn as many time as possible through a quiet zone and make railfanners satisfied and the people who wanted the QZ
*DISSATISFIED*
Wooooo amennn I will always record you
Well, I hope you have the throttle in notch 8 and ducked down under the windshield - bullets might be going through.
Horns blowing is a level crossing safety feature, like bells ringing even when the gates are down
Well, if the city sets up a no horn zone, they become liable if an accident occurs at the crossing. One of these days, some City is going to get sued massively and you will see the no train horn zones start disappearing like crazy. It’s only a matter of time. It’s a dangerous gamble for cities to do this.
Forrest Creek it's Florida, I'd give it 1 week and some idiot will blow through the gates and stall in the track 😂
Hvguy As a Floridian, I can vouch for that statement being true. Sadly.
A "no horn" zone does not apply to emergencies. The train will blow the horn if necessary to warn a vehicle or person.
I agree
READ YOIUR LOCAL LAWS MORON
What about buses and trucks, like the one in the video? Those are required by law to stop and listen for horns, so if there's no horn, then it will be unsafe.
shit apparently not over here in rocky mount nc its a quiet zone too thanks to these whiny sons of bitches but i see many buses dont even stop
+CSX2665 i live 200 feet from a rail road crossing and i don't even notice the train horns anymore. It something that you get used to like the background noise that comes from living in a town/city.
and cars will get hit i remeber another quite zone a car was hit becuse he did not here the train 2 out of the 4 peaple that were in the car died
I prefer trains blow their whistles on railroad crossings to warn people and vehicles to not cross the railroad tracks when trains is coming. Quiet zones should not exist in my humble opinion even if trains disturbing people when they are in bed for a good night sleep or they're working,learning,playing in daytime. This is a question of safety because if a motorist decide to not obey to the grade crossing signals to pass before the train passes.
I love the sound of train horns. Its music to my ears. My adrenaline pumps everytime I hear a train coming. Its so awesome to listen to those epic Iron Horses thunder down the railroad. Plus it is for safety reasons. If you can't deal with the noise move your business somewhere else.
I like the horns. Just not the gas from the trains.
Train2165 I like trains and the horns
Steve Spud %100 agreed
Steve Spud - amen.
shariys1 amen indeed.
I truly doubt that passing freight cars are loud enough to cause them to cover their ears. Maybe the horns but not the rail cars. Just shows how people can be such big babies.
Hey Alan the these people need to quit complaining the railroad was there before them
You get what Ian laying down?
I find it funny that all of these "quiet zones" are in areas where the houses are new. Meanwhile there are houses and neighborhoods that have been around for a hundred years and sometimes longer and they don't have any "quiet zones" on the railroads.
People know when they moved there that the trains are there before they moved in, so I say let the horns blow. I love the sound of the train horns.
Also, I do agree that quiet zones are unsafe, the horns should blow
What can be more unsafe than dumb drivers/pedestrians? Exactly. If the lights are flashing, and the bell is ringing, then you are suppost to stop, horn or no horn. If dumb drivers decide to run the crossing, then its their problem.
We have plenty of quiet zones here in Winnipeg. Many of them don't even have ANY arms. Yet, it works out fine.
But many try to run the gates, as you see on this video, hence the added need for horns, inconvenient as they may be to some people.
Eric Cooper
If they run the crossing/go around the gates, then it's their problem.
We have plenty of crossings with no horn, which have one arm for each direction. Drivers almost never go around the arms. At crossings with no arms, often drivers will go through but whatever.
Don't band the horns, ban the complainers from the town
yea same with people who live near an airport who complain about the air traffic
Don't like the noise or traffic just move away from the railroad or airport
Whos idea was to build around the tracks
Should make it a Federal law that requires sounding the horn at ALL crossings.
lets have a horn meetup! location:across from the dance theatre in lakeland FL bring the noise!
time: first day quiet zone becomes active
Nah
jnite67 ok Mr Fun-killer.
I don't have a horn but I bet if that bitch in the fox 13 news story almost got hit by a train she would wish their were horns
ryan lewis il let ya borrow one of my 3 horns! lol my definition of quiet zones and everyone out there will agree with me,
quiet zones: bitching people who choose to live/open a bisiness next to a RR crossing and complain. they are also a mistake waiting to happen
Nick Silcox the only reason I said nah is because I live in Illinois...
It's ok no one likes dancing anyway
If the people want it so bad they should be made to pay for the quiet zone, and they cause more problems then their worth.
No train horns? Im a trucker and if I ever go thru there I will be sure to hit the Jake brake!
trains + no horns = death= Lakeland's fault
KEEP THE TRAIN HORNS BLOWING!
That was sexy ass horn display by that Amtrak unit !!🔥🔥
Quiet zones?! The train horn is installed so that the engineer can alert people on the track ahead of their presence, especially at crossings. Because people somehow miss the flashing lights as a symbol of an on coming train
I totally agree with you. The train horns should always blow for safety!
I can't see well and am GLAD our trains will always blow their horns.. never bothered me any.
The train should blow their horn to warn cars and people that they are approaching
yes
@@extremeneils people still die and I'm not even in a no horn zone and someone was struck by NS 355
YAY FOR TRAIN HORNS!!! They are there to let you the people know that hey there is a train coming
They're all train haters.
Josh Utley they are all shit eaters
they're all prius drivers!
theyre alk noobs banshees and others
Ya I like horns they sound cool
J&B Productions csk
"Oh... Woe is me! The dirty noisy trains are disrupting our ballet studio built right along the train tracks! We have to stop it so we can dance in our tutus and in peace!"
This is like an example of one of those people you just want to punch in the face.
Yeah you can't stop a train from not blowing horns at a crossing. That's like passing an ordinance that cars should use blinkers when changing direction anymore. That's just asking for an incident. If you don't like it, move! Asking drivers to not blow horns at a crossing is laughable and they'll lay on the horn even more, just out of spite. They're not gonna be responsible for hitting someone or something if they can help it and someone can't tell them otherwise, especially some stupid sign.
It's like asking us to stop using our sirens when we respond to a fire.
Not gonna happen.
#hornblowsmatter!
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Harris County Railfan hey you were on the Approach Medium stream last night
Lazys The Dank Engineer Holy crap did you not see that this was 3 fuckin years ago?
That looks like the same railroad crossings you were at last time when they kept malfunctioning a lot every time
It is the same crossing, they fixed it!
And if the person dies, there's going to be a lot of anger between people. And if some blame the railroad, someone better say "bullcrap."
Awesome Video Alan!
This is not all that's breaking at this crossing! Take a look at both gates (the ones across the tracks) behind Alan. The top of the gates are broken and bent back.
I only have one thing to say about Quiet Zones: They are stupid and a completly dumb law. The trains were here way before these people were. If the people don't like the horns, then GET OUT!
I hope that when the stupid zones go into effect, trains continue to blow their horns. Maybe the people will get so pissed off they will have to leave.
PEOPLE NEED TO SAY NO TO QUIET ZONES!
No, all it would do is encourage someone to shoot the horns and/or engineer until they stop blowing them.
i like how the new lights flash slower than the old ones and they look cooler than old ones by far
I was here with Mr Allen Smith when the Amtrak train came through Lakeland that day and I was glad that I got to meet him I would have to say let the horns blow because they are trying to provide safety warning and letting people know they are coming through... active RR crossings are not good enough because sometimes they don't always work properly and they can malfunction and that can spell potential disaster in the future for motorists and railroad crews keep the horns blowing!!!
It was nice meeting you to. Maybe we can get together again and go rail fanning
Millenniumforce absolutly we should do that again someday =)
blingkid823 I will be at the Amtrak station tomorrow to board 92 to Tampa and will be getting off at 5;55 on the way back.
cool Mr Allan smith have a good enjoyable trip to Tampa and have fun railroading
That Amtrak train hornage technique is the same as heard in the heat of the night tv show in most episodes (night scenes).
The beginning of this video, that freight train engineer sure was confident the Amtrak would get out of the way! I would have at least not been in the throttle!
I don’t know about the state of FL but in the state of IL all school buses are required to stop in front of the gates and listen to horns to see if there’s a train coming.Whenever I come from school (the bus goes across the train tracks to get to the bus stops.This is not a no horn zone) and bus driver rolls up to the front of the train tracks, Opens the doors , Listens carefully to a horn.Beside there should be the horn because Amtrak’s pass there and Amtrak’s can’t stop quick they take a while.Anyways the train tracks that are by my house (also the ones that my bus goes across) a Metra passes by there and Metra is pretty much an Amtrak cause it’s a high speed train that carries people and has muliple stops and it has the same gates as Amtrak’s do.Also can you heart this comment Alan?Thanks It would be much appropriated!
lol I thought they were installed wrong :P
Yeah its a great experience and a safety law that prevents a lot of accidents. 100% with you guys, horns all the way!!
ah watching some of these old videos bring back good times
About three years ago, the next town over from me had residents trying to silence the horns and bells along the CP freight line right in behind their houses. They wanted to town to pay for all of the upgrades and nothing out of their pocket. They claimed they never knew there was a rail line in behind their houses when they bought them (umm, Google Maps anyone?). Then it was found out the residents wanted to get more money for their houses and that was the real reason for the silencing. The community went into an uproar against these residents in social media and in the newspapers; nobody wanted their tax dollars to pay for that street's benefit. .The town, who would have paid for the majority of the costs, also found this out and said NO to the bells and whistle silence request. Result: area is safe due to the noises of the trains. No more requests for that area of town have been received since.
I never have liked this idea. I live less than a mile from 2 different railroad tracks and hear a lot of trains each night but I also enjoy hearing them too. Just for the record, people also complain that live next to fire stations about sirens. I enjoy hearing those too. Guess I'm just odd like that.
Let'em Blow, baby! Let'em Blow!
Oh boy. 20 a day. Almost one every hour, we can't live like this. People are idiots! Blow the horns!
It appears to me, as a Brit, that level crossings in America really are inadequate. Whilst they remain that way trains should have to blow their horns, that I'm not disputing.
The below is going to sound a bit biased because of where I'm from, but it's my ha'pence on the subject.
If officials took a look at British automatic level crossings, which are a lot safer and only require a short blast of the horn during daylight hours (no horns during hours of darkness), they would see that, in urban areas, they are closed off on all sides to prevent any trespasses. In rural areas you tend to get "half-barrier" crossings with barrier covering only the left-hand side of the road (it would be the right elsewhere but we drive on the left). They also hold a signal at red until the barriers are fully lowered, which is when they'll show either green, amber, or double amber (depends on which signal block the preceding train is in)
I'm not saying that British crossing don't have accidents, because they do, but they tend to be the fault of pedestrians or drivers with brain fade.
There are plenty of videos of UK level crossings on YT so I'm not going to link to any of them, but a quick search would show you.
And gee, guess who's fault it was for building a dance studio next to the tracks?! Better yet, guess who's fault it was to TEACH that class? YOU lady!
If i was a engineer i would pull on the horn as loud as i could!
Great shot Alan!
Horns are meant to alert people that a train is approaching the crossing. Lakeland City has pass a law which prohibits the use of horns. If an accident which is not cause by stupidity, the city will have wish that it didn't pass the law. I assumed that some lawyers will assume that the city is a fault for the accident because of some people wanting to have some quiet.
I love the horns and it doesn't make sense not to blow. Especially near crossings that malfunction a lot and have blocked views so people don't know if there's a train and then they go around the barriers and get killed
We have the same problem up here in Saint John, NB. The main crossing in the city comes across a rail bridge heading East and from behind a ridge going West. But the crossing doesn't have any barrier arms and with trains running 24/7 some residents are getting just a little pissed off. But it should be getting better, there are less oil trains now, more is being shipped by sea. If you want see our neck of the woods just look up nbsr on You Tube. Great videos Alan.
In New York, a law passed back in 1910 (!) required cities over a certain size to eliminate most at-grade rail intersections. All because of deaths with a woman, her children and the horses on a snowy night at a rail intersection just south of Parkside Ave. The carriage was buttoned up to keep the lake effect snow out. Thus, the train was never seen. We hardly hear train horns unless CSX or Amtrak is blowing for the intersections to our northwest, and the wind is coming from that way.
The people near train tracks should of known the CSX tracks are there, and CSX waisted money, just so people can get their way.
By the Millennium Force, fatalities don't make train horns come into effect. There are about 7 fatalities in Barrie ON each year and still a quiet zone
Trains and the railroad was there before many businesses were even running. Let them blow there horns away.
I remember reading a message board sometime around 2000 where some BNSF employees were posting about an expired Quiet zone in City of Placentia. These guys were more than happy to blast the horn past the house of the Crazy lady that started the whole thing. They gave her an Extra Helping of Horn.
I just wanna say as a Railfann I think train horns are huge because if we didn’t have train horns there would be way more deaths and when something happens it’s gonna be blamed on the company but I think it’s should be illegal for no train horn zones.
Check with the FRA (Federal Railroad Administration) by Federal Law which is over state and Local laws, all trains by federal law are required to sound horns in intervals 1 mile before crossing and blow horn continually threw crossing, They tried quiet crossing in New Jersey and Federal Government sued our State government Transportation (NJ Transit) for not following Federal law. So notify FRA about this in your town.
Nice coverage. Same discussion here in Raleigh where upscale apartments have just been built beside the tracks and now people have realized that trains have horns. Oops. My mistake to buy here but maybe the trains can just shut up for me! After all, I am important.
People shouldn't go on about train noise. Tracks were there before they were. That's like building a house at the end of a runway and complaining about the noise.
I'm sorry, but this is too freakin funny.. The bars were blocking the crossing before the train was even in view. If your the type of person to crash through the lowered bars, (that in the video obviously blocked the vehicle traffic), and you only stop because you heard a horn... Well, you shouldn't be driving.
I'm going to be honest I feel like every railroad crossing is going to need a horn because I personally think it's safe. That's how people should know that they are alerted when a train's coming because of the gates what's most important is the horn that goes whatever to make sure that all cars stop immediately.
Must admit it does sound like the Engineers are rubbing salt into the wound!
Quiet zones have their place.
In urban places like this, quiet zones are an acceptable alternative to standard crossings and horn signals. If the horn needs to be blown, it can be.
More Ballerinas please Alan !!..LOL Good video mate.
Cheers Gregg
In my town,there is a dance studio a few yards from a crossing,and we don't hear them complain
Along the UP Overland Route through Iowa, we have 4 Quiet Zones. A concrete barrier has been installed in the center of the streets, and the gates cover the entire crossing.
I think that the hrons
That's right I'm behind you all the way about the Horn blowing
Simple, same as they placed a "NO HORN" sign, the should place a Stop sign with a MANDATORY RR STOP and it may ad alternative security.
How were the crossing gates installed incorrectly?
Man this is going to suck!!! having no train horns in the Downtown Lakeland area. I got tons of videos of trains blowing their horns in Lakeland, FL at the time when I was living in Tampa, FL. People in Lakeland must not be Railfans lol!
I got excited last week over seeing a CSX train in MN ( our line is BNS and that was a first time sighting for me).. we have two crossings in town so the trains blow their horns twice.. some for quite a distance but it don't bother me any. if people hate trains then they shouldn't live next to tracks or buy buildings where there are trains. Horns mean safety!
To the people who think the quiet zones are a good idea should be ashamed of themselves! If you don’t like the horn, move your place elsewhere! How is someone supposed to know that the crossing gates are not malfunctioning? That happens all the time!
Breaking news: This city has a medical disorder..
who the fuck puts a business next to train tracks?!
a person who reacts like a 3 year old to train horns.
i totally agree with you.
Personally, I say the railroad should be covered by what's called 'the grandfather clause'. The railroad was there first and if anyone wants to set up shop or buy a house that close to the railroad tracks, they should have been aware of the train horn noise that comes with the tracks and accept it! On a similar note, in Canton, Ohio, a developer bought a large tract of land not far from a mulch manufacturing facility and built some expensive homes and townhouses. The home owners later filed a lawsuit to have the facility shut down due to the stench. The lawsuit was dismissed on the grounds of 'the grandfather clause' and they were told they should have done a little more research before they bought their homes.
Why not use up your money and sound insulate hospitals or important buildings near by that need silence
I grew up near a major CSX line near a town that also had a major Norfolk-Southern (before that Conrail) line in Ohio not too far from an airport. You hear noise all the time, if not then something else is making noise. Would rather hear the trains and planes rather than hearing the people complaining about them.
Flagstaff AZ was one of the first cities to have a quiet zone back in 2009
MrJacMac1986 No way!! I was there last week and heard a train horn.
Incorrect because of a gap. LOL. Just lengthen the gates.
(At 6:00 in I see a part on the right gate which looks like it could be pulled out.)
Or does that cost too much for CSX?
I think it's allowed to be silenced only on roads near schools.
Example Johnson Rd Fremont Nebraska.
I live an area where trains come between 1 to about 10 times daily however, that isn't so bad. About 10 years ago there was a whole lot more. My guess would be about every hour you'll hear one
Ashland, VA has a quiet no horn zone and it's right near the actual Amtrak station. Talk about utter stupidity.
Dallas doesn't have quiet zones that I'm aware of
Who cares if there is a gap between the gates? They run through them anyway!!
How long have the signal installers had to accomplish this project? We have a lot of quiet zones in southern California that were implemented without a hitch.
When I saw the thumbnail, I was like. Trains make noise!?!?!?!? How!?!?!?!?!?