420 Stainless Hot Tools? - GS Tongs
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- Опубліковано 24 січ 2024
- I test an idea that 420 stainless steel may be ideal for hot punching.
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Thanks for taking one for the team, Glen! Lol! It was an interesting piece of modern art, tho'! I too like H13 for hot punches!
It can be embarrassing to try stuff like this and get "stuck". But I think it's important to show mistakes - not all though! Thanks my friend for your continuing generosity. Usual shout-out to follow. Glen
@gstongs The pleasure is mine as always, friend!!!! 👍😁
What I really like about you is that you are always talking as you go on doing the job, which attract more attention and makes the listener educate a lot. Thanks for sharing with us your great ideas.
"I make the mistakes so you don't have to". I was going to make a comment just like that. We appreciate your work, Glen 😊
I was disappointed with this one. I really thought it was going to be next level good. Oh well, back to what I know. Thanks Dennis.
@@gstongs my interest was piqued when I saw the title and watched the intro. I'm not sure why. I don't have any 400 series stainless, H13, A2, or anything of the sort, just a chunk of S7, a fair amount of O1, and the rest is salvage steel from various sources. I guess I get to live vicariously through you, Glen. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the R & D.
I was really disappointed by this on - had such high hopes. Thanks.
impressive how it riveted and how the test was probant. thank you glen
Hi Kirk, I was disappointed with this one. I had high hopes. On to the next... Thanks.
Oddly enough, I watched Denis Tyrell's video on making stainless damascus right before this one, and am left with the impression that I should stick to the steels I know! Thanks for experimenting on behalf of the smithing community.
From my quick foray into stainless I can say that it's a very difficult steel to blacksmith with. Nothing wrong with giving it a go though. I have all this stuff leftover so I'll figure something out. Thanks Bryson.
Great tutorial, thanks Glen
Here's one where you definitely learned what not to do. Thanks Ron
Good video, good comparison demo between the efficacy of the two metals for hot work! Hope all is going well in your part of the world! Keep up the good work Glen!
I was disappointed by this one as I thought 420 stainless might be the stuff of hot work legend! Won't be the last time I'm wrong. On to the next... Thanks my friend.
Thanks for making this mistake for us 😂
Interesting experiments as always!
Making mistakes for me is easy! Just really disappointed in this 420 stainless experiment. Thanks for all my friend.
Quenching doesn't anneal copper. It's the heating of the copper that softens it. You could let it air cool for the same effect. Also, the magnetism of stainless steel has to do with the iron content, not the carbon content.
The magnetism of stainless has to do with the presence of room-temp austenite, caused by nickel in 300 series and a mix of nickel and manganese in 200 series.
I misspoke - wanted to say iron. Also, I should have mentioned the very high nickel content in 300 series compared to the relatively low nickel content in 420 as another factor... I'll see if I can annotate the video to correct this. Annealing doesn't harden the copper like with carbon steels so no harm in cooling quickly plus I like to see what colors emerge from the quench. Thanks.
I should have mentioned the high percentage of nickel in 300 series stainless leading to its non-magnetism as well as relatively low iron content. Thanks for your comment.
That was good information, thanks.
This didn't work the way I wanted but that's the way it goes sometimes. Live and learn... Thanks so much.
I have forged a hammer drift from an old pneumatic cylinder shaft by hand and that stuff is extremely tough!
I'm not sure what type of steel your cylinder shaft is but I imagine an alloy tool steel. Hand hammering on stuff like that is no joke. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Sucker rod works fairly well and is cheap and available in Canada and the U.S.
Great videosxi like your narration. I just SUBSCRIBED 👍 Hello from Maine
Thanks for watching and for subscribing. This one was a disappointment so hopefully the next video works out better.
If you don't let it get hotter than 400 degrees celsius it will work well.
Do you mean the punches or the steel I'm trying to punch? I imagine the former and so this may be something to try. Thanks.
@@gstongs I meant you should keep the punch below 400 celsius.
Stainless makes good tongs
I imagine it would make great tongs but it's pricey and is one of the most difficult steels to hand forge in my opinion. But now that you've said that, I may try a stainless pair of tongs for a video. Thanks Matt.
hmm I imagine the stainless is a little more expensive than H13 but wow what a difference ....not good , well done getting that punch out
thanks for sharing
Yeah, I will try quenching directly in water and see but I don't think it'll make a difference. And yes, the price of 420 stainless and H13 is close. Thanks.
@@gstongs I did a bit of research and though the higher temp hold and oil quench is easy enough, the reheating every time you use it will make it a lot like toffee to use for punching hot. I don't know if it would hold up to cold punching ...I suspect not but what do I know. Overall I reckon H13 is still the way to go
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Thanks. 😬
i know stainless is very hard steel one of the hardest
I worked some 310 stainless recently and that has to be the most difficult stuff to hand forge and it barely has any carbon. Thanks.