I’ve been feeling so emotional through this series. It cuts so deep. She has affirmed and expanded upon certain ideas I’ve had in my most lucid moments, some of which had faded from memory. I’m so grateful for her actions. And yours, Stephen! Thank you!
I put these on at bedtime. I think I forget all the worries of the day, and concentrate on West. It cured my insomnia. This may sound like a backhanded complement, but it isn't. My anxiety is relieved and I can drift off thinking. Insomniacs will understand. I've listened to the entire series twice now. West is best in the West and best thing on the internet.
Thank you for making Simone Weil's philosophy a lot more accessible to people. She deserves it! One thing I'm not fully on board with is the anthropocentric/speciesist view from 10:06 onwards (unless by "persons" and "we" you mean all life forms, like some indigenous peoples do). It's very Christian, and typical of Western philosophy, to emphasise ourselves over others. Which is understandable. Western philosophy and religion are about understanding ourselves and the cosmos through our _human_ perception and intellect. It's inherently at risk of becoming egocentric, putting too much emphasis on humans over other forms of life that we share this world with. Maybe we're not the center of the universe? (Maybe "God" was created in our image?) Aren't all of life "vessels of God"? Could non-human life be even more in tune with "God's frequency", with less rationality getting in the way? I think a world without humans would still be beautiful, and "God" would still exist. Humans are not required. Morality and justice can also exist without humans. Dogs, having the mental ability of human toddlers, do have (dog) morality. Even plants can be altruistic, helping strangers in need. (If you don't believe me, ask a biologist.) Still, I recognize that humans have a special responsibility in how we act, due to our advanced minds and societies and their impact on the world (force).
Just found your channel. A friend and I are now reading Heidegger's being and time. I think your series on H was helpful. I am a huge fan of Meleau-Ponty and I find myself relating Mp to Mh as I am reading. I encourage you to do more phenomenology - particularly Merleau_Ponty from the the Structure of Behavior to Ph of Pers, and especially the last works the visible and the invisible - also "eye and Mind". Anyway, thanks for your channel. Just a suggestion.
Amazing content Thank you for everything you do ❤️ If you can please make an episode on the myth of sisyphus by alber Camus it will be greatly appreciated and I’m sure it will help our great community. Thank you again
Firstly many thanks for the great job you are doing. I am a huge fan of your channel and I am always looking forward for the next episode. 🙏❤️ Thank you very much. It would be tremendously useful if you could gide us a bit more and point out the book where all her theory of god is written. Best wishes from south Spain
I think a lot of it is from Gravity and Grace and The Need for Roots. Be warned though, she's not an easy read! I end up whole-heartedly agreeing with something she says, only to furiously disagree with the next thing she says. And maybe later come around to understanding her better. She can be very extreme at times. Yet I love her, nobody cuts as deep and as clean as her.
Goddamn. Philosophize This! _The Iliad The Poem of Force_ --Simone Weil. Frequency Illusion Bravo West. Oh, the argument will never end. Always will Truth quarrel with Beauty. The human host will always split In two halves: Greeks and the Barbarians. --Heine, _For Mouche_
I did have a question for attention/openess. I was wondering instead of willpower what if it is something you want to stop doing. like stop drinking alcohol? How do I find joy in stopping to drink alcohol. So instead of a positive thing like reading a book what if it's a negative vice?
Different people find different ways to handle their vices. Some seek comfort in a supportive community. I personally find it helpful to always remind myself of why I'm stopping myself from engaging in a vice that feels good in the moment. When you have a deeply felt reason that is more important than a momentary pleasure, it changes your perspective from that of "I must suffer in abstinence" to "This moment of suffering paves the way to a life I would like to live".
@@SisypheanRoller Although I agree because that's how I do it, this is not realistisc for most people. A more efficient method that will work long term is to replace with something else, preferably a healthy alternative like exercise or like you mentioned talking with people that are on a similar path, they need something to fill that void where their bad habit used to be.
Know the bargain that one makes when ingesting that which imposes limits. Sometimes that's good, as a tool, but not as a way of life. What gets in the way is that the person doesn't have a reference point. There's a joy in realizing, after giving up that restraint, the fullness of being. What is sad almost is that there's a limit to what one can give up however by the time one reaches that limit it doesn't matter.
@@rabbychan Replacing is good and helpful but it's not sufficient until you truly have a profound shift in identity. This is why most people who want to give up smoking or drinking continue to relapse, sometimes after years of quitting. Try mental visualization, journaling, or even meditation. Anything that will work your executive brain and remodel your subconscious.
Getting your freedom and health back, for one. There’s a hell of a lot to be excited about but you’ve just forgotten about it. Even with addiction. You just have to try to really think about what it used to feel like to not be in chains. Deep down you’ll find that motivating drive and spirit when you really start to remember who you are and the life you’re taking back. Realize that you’re fighting through something incredible. You’re doing something not everybody can do! It’s almost like a professional boxing match for your future! Take pride in the burn like you’re in the gym lifting weights and building up your dream self! Get hyped about your progress and what you’re doing, because you should be! You’re a badass and a hero to your own self!! Forget about what got you into the situation, think about how you’re responding to it now! Revel in the fight and love every little bit of the feelings and freedom you’re getting back, even as rough as they might seem in the moment. It’s like a cold splash of water to the face. YOU’RE ALIVE AGAIN! For the first time in a long time! And stay motivated because the prize is far better than any athlete’s trophy. It’s a blessing like no other to finally be in control of your own self again! And when it’s all said and done you’re even gonna be thankful for the experience! Most people never get this kind of opportunity to learn and grow for themselves. You’re not just getting your life back, you’re coming back stronger, smarter, and better than ever before! So appreciate those oh-so-little improvements with each and every day as you slowly adjust and the torture struggles to keep up. YOU’RE WINNING!!! It doesn’t matter how small the steps you’re taking are, you just have to outlast and the reward is priceless!
Bizarre how you never mentioned Jesus Christ whom Simone Weil experienced mystically and loved as well as the Catholic Church. But you have described God away. I feel you're missing out on her soul, but you explained things as youd like them to be. I wonder how Simone would feel about ignoring very crucial experiences such as her experience of Jesus.
Attention addresses an immanent God, not a transcendent God. The article was about attention, not faith in a story. There was so much emotional manipulation in the few lines of your comment as to be a perfect advertisement for philosophy.
I wonder if Weil's "god" should also display moral responsibility. If he/she/it did, then that was some mighty fine feinting during WW2. Funny how she doesn't crucify her "god" or at least put him/her/it on trial for indifference, at a minimum. Let me guess: I'm probably missing something 🙄.
Hey friend funny enough the same people who complain that God could allow things to happen giving us free-will and responsibility, will be even more poliarized if free will was taken away from them from said God???
From the little Weil I've read (and I could be wrong), I think her answer to the problem of evil is in the absence of God and the existence of what she calls necessity. "The world must be regarded as containing something of a void in order that it may have need of God." "God created through love and for love. God did not create anything except love itself, and the means to love. He created love in all its forms. He created beings capable of love from all possible distances. Because no other could do it, he himself went to the greatest possible distance, an infinite distance. This infinite distance between God and God, this supreme tearing apart, this agony beyond all others, this marvel of love, is the crucifixion. Nothing can be further from God than that which has been made accursed." "… all the thickness of the creation which God has put between himself and himself, being as contrary to God as anything real can be, is without understanding and is subject to involuntary obedience." "Involuntary obedience can only be mechanical necessity." "… This blind mechanism made of chance, produces the rhythm of day and night, the changing seasons, the trees and flowers. It produces all these without knowing. Yet it itself produces them. God has entrusted creation to necessity. Otherwise God would be within the process - here on earth and not in heaven. His presence would bring all creation to nothing - or else God himself would not be goodness." "All the blind destruction which comes about bears witness to the fact that this conquered necessity still rules and that God does not dwell here on earth but in heaven." "He is in heaven and whatever evil we do, or whatever evil we bear, we know that no evil will be caused to God by it. All the evil that we see happening around us confirms us in the certainty that God is elsewhere, beyond our reach. Can there be a greater joy for him who loves, than to say to himself: 'Whatever happens, he whom I love is in complete security'?" And I just have to add this amazing line: "There is a point in space and time which contains God nailed, emptied of divinity and in the form of a slave." From the book Simone Weil, as we knew her.
I'm not a fan of Simone Weil Honestly the much I know of her philosophy I disagree with However I see the reasoning in this and to an extent I agree with it
Religion without philosophy is emotional and erratic, and leads to division and warfare, especially within the individual. The need to be right is antithetical to the need to understand. When you no longer feel a division between outside your body and inside your body, you're paying attention.
I’ve been feeling so emotional through this series. It cuts so deep. She has affirmed and expanded upon certain ideas I’ve had in my most lucid moments, some of which had faded from memory. I’m so grateful for her actions. And yours, Stephen! Thank you!
I have exactly the same feeling.
Simone Weil really does cut deep!
Your simone weil series has changed my perspective on life for the better
The whole series about Weil are one of the best of the podcast. Thank you Stephen!!!
Two episodes on one day? Blessed
Always exciting to see notification for philosophize this
I put these on at bedtime. I think I forget all the worries of the day, and concentrate on West. It cured my insomnia. This may sound like a backhanded complement, but it isn't. My anxiety is relieved and I can drift off thinking. Insomniacs will understand. I've listened to the entire series twice now. West is best in the West and best thing on the internet.
Likewise. I listen to them everytime I've overthought everything. Helps put things into perspective and relaxes my mind.
This guy does such good work.
Thank you for making Simone Weil's philosophy a lot more accessible to people. She deserves it!
One thing I'm not fully on board with is the anthropocentric/speciesist view from 10:06 onwards (unless by "persons" and "we" you mean all life forms, like some indigenous peoples do). It's very Christian, and typical of Western philosophy, to emphasise ourselves over others. Which is understandable. Western philosophy and religion are about understanding ourselves and the cosmos through our _human_ perception and intellect. It's inherently at risk of becoming egocentric, putting too much emphasis on humans over other forms of life that we share this world with.
Maybe we're not the center of the universe? (Maybe "God" was created in our image?) Aren't all of life "vessels of God"? Could non-human life be even more in tune with "God's frequency", with less rationality getting in the way? I think a world without humans would still be beautiful, and "God" would still exist. Humans are not required. Morality and justice can also exist without humans. Dogs, having the mental ability of human toddlers, do have (dog) morality. Even plants can be altruistic, helping strangers in need. (If you don't believe me, ask a biologist.)
Still, I recognize that humans have a special responsibility in how we act, due to our advanced minds and societies and their impact on the world (force).
Just found your channel. A friend and I are now reading Heidegger's being and time. I think your series on H was helpful. I am a huge fan of Meleau-Ponty and I find myself relating Mp to Mh as I am reading. I encourage you to do more phenomenology - particularly Merleau_Ponty from the the Structure of Behavior to Ph of Pers, and especially the last works the visible and the invisible - also "eye and Mind". Anyway, thanks for your channel. Just a suggestion.
Please more videos about Guy Debord " The Society of the Spectacle" chap 2 and 3.
Its was mind blowing ...
Agreed!
Amazing content
Thank you for everything you do ❤️
If you can please make an episode on the myth of sisyphus by alber Camus it will be greatly appreciated and I’m sure it will help our great community.
Thank you again
He already has an episode on Camus that touches on the myth of Sisyphus. Have a look at his previous episodes.
Yes ! I had a very traumatic experience at Barnes and Noble when I was seven. That’s it 🤣🤣🤣
Firstly many thanks for the great job you are doing. I am a huge fan of your channel and I am always looking forward for the next episode. 🙏❤️ Thank you very much. It would be tremendously useful if you could gide us a bit more and point out the book where all her theory of god is written. Best wishes from south Spain
Where can i read her work about this theme?
I think a lot of it is from Gravity and Grace and The Need for Roots. Be warned though, she's not an easy read! I end up whole-heartedly agreeing with something she says, only to furiously disagree with the next thing she says. And maybe later come around to understanding her better. She can be very extreme at times. Yet I love her, nobody cuts as deep and as clean as her.
Goddamn. Philosophize This!
_The Iliad The Poem of Force_
--Simone Weil.
Frequency Illusion
Bravo West.
Oh, the argument will never end.
Always will Truth quarrel with Beauty.
The human host will always split
In two halves: Greeks and the Barbarians.
--Heine, _For Mouche_
Of the Refrain
Kindly make it on Phillippa Foot too
I did have a question for attention/openess. I was wondering instead of willpower what if it is something you want to stop doing. like stop drinking alcohol? How do I find joy in stopping to drink alcohol. So instead of a positive thing like reading a book what if it's a negative vice?
Different people find different ways to handle their vices. Some seek comfort in a supportive community. I personally find it helpful to always remind myself of why I'm stopping myself from engaging in a vice that feels good in the moment. When you have a deeply felt reason that is more important than a momentary pleasure, it changes your perspective from that of "I must suffer in abstinence" to "This moment of suffering paves the way to a life I would like to live".
@@SisypheanRoller Although I agree because that's how I do it, this is not realistisc for most people.
A more efficient method that will work long term is to replace with something else, preferably a healthy alternative like exercise or like you mentioned talking with people that are on a similar path, they need something to fill that void where their bad habit used to be.
Know the bargain that one makes when ingesting that which imposes limits. Sometimes that's good, as a tool, but not as a way of life. What gets in the way is that the person doesn't have a reference point. There's a joy in realizing, after giving up that restraint, the fullness of being. What is sad almost is that there's a limit to what one can give up however by the time one reaches that limit it doesn't matter.
@@rabbychan Replacing is good and helpful but it's not sufficient until you truly have a profound shift in identity. This is why most people who want to give up smoking or drinking continue to relapse, sometimes after years of quitting.
Try mental visualization, journaling, or even meditation. Anything that will work your executive brain and remodel your subconscious.
Getting your freedom and health back, for one. There’s a hell of a lot to be excited about but you’ve just forgotten about it. Even with addiction. You just have to try to really think about what it used to feel like to not be in chains. Deep down you’ll find that motivating drive and spirit when you really start to remember who you are and the life you’re taking back. Realize that you’re fighting through something incredible. You’re doing something not everybody can do! It’s almost like a professional boxing match for your future! Take pride in the burn like you’re in the gym lifting weights and building up your dream self! Get hyped about your progress and what you’re doing, because you should be! You’re a badass and a hero to your own self!! Forget about what got you into the situation, think about how you’re responding to it now! Revel in the fight and love every little bit of the feelings and freedom you’re getting back, even as rough as they might seem in the moment. It’s like a cold splash of water to the face. YOU’RE ALIVE AGAIN! For the first time in a long time! And stay motivated because the prize is far better than any athlete’s trophy. It’s a blessing like no other to finally be in control of your own self again! And when it’s all said and done you’re even gonna be thankful for the experience! Most people never get this kind of opportunity to learn and grow for themselves. You’re not just getting your life back, you’re coming back stronger, smarter, and better than ever before! So appreciate those oh-so-little improvements with each and every day as you slowly adjust and the torture struggles to keep up. YOU’RE WINNING!!! It doesn’t matter how small the steps you’re taking are, you just have to outlast and the reward is priceless!
Bizarre how you never mentioned Jesus Christ whom Simone Weil experienced mystically and loved as well as the Catholic Church. But you have described God away. I feel you're missing out on her soul, but you explained things as youd like them to be. I wonder how Simone would feel about ignoring very crucial experiences such as her experience of Jesus.
My thoughts exactly. Although, I must admit, the principles are still there.
Attention addresses an immanent God, not a transcendent God. The article was about attention, not faith in a story. There was so much emotional manipulation in the few lines of your comment as to be a perfect advertisement for philosophy.
Thanks for www warning!
TLDR, summary?
Attend
I wonder if Weil's "god" should also display moral responsibility. If he/she/it did, then that was some mighty fine feinting during WW2. Funny how she doesn't crucify her "god" or at least put him/her/it on trial for indifference, at a minimum. Let me guess: I'm probably missing something 🙄.
Hey friend funny enough the same people who complain that God could allow things to happen giving us free-will and responsibility, will be even more poliarized if free will was taken away from them from said God???
@@Vector1990 There IS no "God." How are the powerful few, through generations, going to control the masses except by mindf*ing them?
From the little Weil I've read (and I could be wrong), I think her answer to the problem of evil is in the absence of God and the existence of what she calls necessity.
"The world must be regarded as containing something of a void in order that it may have need of God."
"God created through love and for love. God did not create anything except love itself, and the means to love. He created love in all its forms. He created beings capable of love from all possible distances. Because no other could do it, he himself went to the greatest possible distance, an infinite distance. This infinite distance between God and God, this supreme tearing apart, this agony beyond all others, this marvel of love, is the crucifixion. Nothing can be further from God than that which has been made accursed."
"… all the thickness of the creation which God has put between himself and himself, being as contrary to God as anything real can be, is without understanding and is subject to involuntary obedience." "Involuntary obedience can only be mechanical necessity."
"… This blind mechanism made of chance, produces the rhythm of day and night, the changing seasons, the trees and flowers. It produces all these without knowing. Yet it itself produces them. God has entrusted creation to necessity. Otherwise God would be within the process - here on earth and not in heaven. His presence would bring all creation to nothing - or else God himself would not be goodness."
"All the blind destruction which comes about bears witness to the fact that this conquered necessity still rules and that God does not dwell here on earth but in heaven."
"He is in heaven and whatever evil we do, or whatever evil we bear, we know that no evil will be caused to God by it. All the evil that we see happening around us confirms us in the certainty that God is elsewhere, beyond our reach. Can there be a greater joy for him who loves, than to say to himself: 'Whatever happens, he whom I love is in complete security'?"
And I just have to add this amazing line: "There is a point in space and time which contains God nailed, emptied of divinity and in the form of a slave."
From the book Simone Weil, as we knew her.
I'm not a fan of Simone Weil
Honestly the much I know of her philosophy I disagree with
However I see the reasoning in this and to an extent I agree with it
Well, this is her philosophy
Religion without philosophy is emotional and erratic, and leads to division and warfare, especially within the individual. The need to be right is antithetical to the need to understand.
When you no longer feel a division between outside your body and inside your body, you're paying attention.