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The Maelstrom a.k.a. The Crawling Chaos from Isle of Siptah. The Crawling Chaos is one of Nyarlathotep's monikers.😁 Maybe the history of Lemurian Remnant (there's some interesting stuff in R.E.H.'s "The Hyborian Age" essay)?
I still can't get my head around how he survived. I guess he was feeling really headstrong having gained new sorcerous power. One would say he should have quit while he was ahead but he probably attracted the attention and ire of Toth-Amon, who decided to head to the Exiled Lands and head Mek off at the pass before he could escape the Exiled Lands and spearhead his revenge attack.
I thought the Priest-King was reanimated as part of the curse that brought back the Kinscourge. It affected the Silent Legion and the now Undead Dragon in the Arena due to their connection with the intended target. In any case, there's also a small camp of Darfari near the Sinkhole that got so intensely corrupted that they passed immediately into undeath without realizing it, which is neat and could add more to this. Makes sense with the corrupted Vitality perk that petrifies your flesh.
It's never directly stated if the Priestking is resurrected as a result of the same curse. It's said that the Diadem resurrects him, but whether it's because of the Diadem itself, or the curse, isn't defined. I personally think they're separate, though closely linked versions of similar sorcery
One thing that confuses me is that Mek technically doesn't wear a bracelet anymore, so how might that work? What is keeping him in the exiled lands?(besides not being able to walk)
As far as we know, nothing. If he manages to find a body without a bracelet, he's home free, but I'm guessing they're not abundant in TEL. It'll be interesting to see how that pans out
@@Eradicati0nn Or maybe the bracelet's powers work on one's soul as well as the body and extend beyond death? Then again, it might not, because if Mek-Kamoses managed to become a sentient undead, that would mean he has an access to his sorcery, which was previously nullified by the bracelet. Or maybe it's Kurak's brand of sorcery?
@@jankoval I think the bracelet only works on the body, rather than the soul. This is something I'll likely end up delving into a bit more in another Raw Lore episode in the future. The Keystone pretty much confirms that, but the keystone itself is fairly problematic in the lore (already working on a video about that too) Kurak and Mek's brands of sorcery seem a bit different, though both work by somehow subverting the bracelet. It seems the bracelet was made to restrict most types of magic, but some have managed to either get around it, or were developed after the bracelets were made, thus rendering the restriction incompatible
Guessing we will find out after The Age of War, at the latest. One possible guess could be the new dungeon, that we can currently see the entrance to. Between the west by northwest entrance to the unnamed city, and the silvermine.
I figured it was basically a form of litchdom and that before being sent to the exile lands he put his soul in a container. Considering powerful magic users live hundreds or thousands of years I imagine it is probably easy to do something like that for a magic user on his level.......or the dev's didn't want him gone from the story so just said "Talking head, that is funny".
Dude your lore videos are underrated asf your editing choice of music and sound, and of course the choice of visual representation is top notch. 10/10. I cant believe you "only" have 30k subs. Im currently binge watching every lore video you have out yet and I hope for more in the future. I love your love for Lovecraft my brother and wish you all the best. Thank you for making the conan universe feel so much more alive you are doing a great service for many like me. Cthulhu llll ah ymg
Thanks Gera! The lore videos always take a long time for that exact reason, I wanna nail the presentation every time 😂 There will most definitely be more in the future!
@@Eradicati0nn yes I can imagine! To name one aspect the placing of every npc and getting the angles for every shot must be torture but remember that guys like me really appreciate your work. All the best to you and success with your channel, quality sooner or later always pays out.
Thanks Sesimie! I've got some other Raw Lore videos cooking up at the moment too, next one should be pretty important for a glaring issue in the lore 👀
A wearable version of the Witch Queen mask is in the admin panel, and then I put it onto a helmet display from the Fashionist mod and just buried it in the sand a bit :)
How did Mek Survive? the boring answer is that he is a religion teacher and thus has to be available. I personally think Mek will either take the body of Kurak as you hypothesized or one of the Stygian invaders, which i think to be more likely because it won't "break" the dungeon. At the end of the day it depends on what they will do with the storyline after the age of war
I don't think he'd necessarily have to be available as a religion teacher, his role could be taken by any unknown Setite, or even a book left near his spire. As for the dungeon, I think Kurak is still a viable possibility because the dungeon has technically already 'happened', as such. Dungeons and boss fights are kinda weird, as you should only ever be able to do them once in the lore sense, but they can be ran forever because it's a game. Kinda weird to rationalize, same as the Keystone, but that's kinda the nature of games with story and replayable elements
This is almost a triumph, I'd make a note here, "Near success" It's hard to overstate my mix reaction. Arcane Sorcery I do what I must because I can, For power over life and death, Except I'm now just a head. But there's no point crying over every mishap, I'll just get a body made of crystal and crap, And the spells'll get done and the demon will come, For the mortals who are still alive.. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.😁
Xaltotun was and acheronian, and was resurrected by the Heart Of Ahriman, and destroyed by it. Tsotha Lanti survived in the same way Mek did, sorcery, in the story The Scarlet Citadel. " Before Tsotha could toss the globe in his left hand, Conan's sword sheared through his lean neck. The wizard's head shot from his shoulders on an arching fount of blood, and the robed figure staggered and crumpled drunkenly. Yet the mad black eyes glared up at Conan with no dimming of their feral light, the lips writhed awfully, and the hands groped, as if searching for the severed head. Then with a swift rush of wings, something swooped from the sky-the eagle which had attacked Tsotha's horse. In its mighty talons it snatched up the dripping head and soared skyward, and Conan stood struck dumb, for from the eagle's throat boomed human laughter, in the voice of Pelias the sorcerer. Then a hideous thing came to pass, for the headless body reared up from the sand, and staggered away in awful flight on stiffening legs, hands blindly outstretched toward the dot speeding and dwindling in the dusky sky. Conan stood like one turned to stone, watching until the swift reeling figure faded in the dusk that purpled the meadows."
There's some descriptions of Xaltotun that describe him in the same way Howard describes The Elder Races. That's likely because he's at least partly of the Giant King blood, as I believe he's the son of The Kinscourge, Xalthar
I don't think any of these examples fit Mek. Kurak practiced sorcery for far longer, was part of a powerful race of serpent men and if we believe that he made a pact with a demon then it makes far more sense that he gets to come back or not fully die the encounter with the exile. Mek lost his powers when he was cast out here in TEL so it's been many ages since he practiced. He hasn't communed with any dark powers in TEL until Kurak suddenly shows up. I also believe Mek having stoic control is a pretty funny notion. He was consumed by hate, revenge and fueled by selfish reasons. He claims Kurak is devious and causing murderous chaos yet he commits the exact same atrocities in his attempts to gain power as well. Just because he wasn't screaming and cackling doesn't mean he wasn't going mad. The clip you play of him talking about Kurak and control makes him sound like a complete lunatic. You say the Witch Queen was driven by unbridled rage and fury? I feel this is wrong. Her people were hunted like animals and driven out of their home lands. They then are betrayed by the giant kings who tried to wipe them all out. The biggest example of her humanity even in sprit is how she saves the life of Razma after you defeat her with the mask on. Someone consumed by rage and fury would not even consider this as an option. Considering he was originally part of a circle of Set worshippers seems the only way to go. If Toth and Kurak either pissed off Set or tried to betray the demon who they made the pact with would result in major repercussions. Mek being used as a tool to vengefully take out the people that pissed off a higher entity would make more sense. When he finds Kurak he doesn't even go to take out his enemy himself. He hides behind the exile and uses you to do it for him. There's nothing powerful about that. I believe it makes more sense for him to be used by a higher power to take out the others and have to endure the rest of his existence on a shriveled up serpent man body. That seems like something the higher powers would allow as it is very entertaining to them. Those are my thoughts.
Based on what evidence do you make the claim that Thulsa Doom is a member of the Giant King race? Also, how exactly do you claim that Xaltotun is the son of the Kinscouge? Where precisely are you getting this "information" from? Also, if you were going to bring up undead character from Conan Lore, why not bring up Akivasha who lived in Stygia 10,000 years before the time of Conan, when the Giant-Kings ruled the land and was likely herself a member of that race (as were a few people written in the Howard Stories and why I absolutely hate the way they are depicted in Conan Exiles). Or perhaps Tascela who had to sacrifice youthful people in order to maintain her own immortal youth?
I said that Thulsa Doom is a member of the elder race (or races). He's not a Giant King, though the context of the line might have implied so. I've detailed my thoughts on Xaltotun and his possible parentage in this video: ua-cam.com/video/u3_TVZbks80/v-deo.html Thulsa Doom and Xaltotun were brought up as two subjects in the wider lore, though ones that were already at least partially represented in the non-human category by the Priestking. Seeing as both Thulsa and Xaltotun are elder race, it was used as an example to rule out Mek being a member of the elder race, hence why I also didn't mention Akivasha. Tascela's immortality also wasn't particularly pertinent to this video, as I'm looking specifically for people that died and were resurrected. Thulsa didn't particularly fall into that category, but was a good back-up example of ruling out the Elder Race theory
@@Eradicati0nn There is nothing in Delcardes Cat which states that Thulsa Doom is of any race, elder or human. So I ask you again, where are you getting your information from as it is clearly not from writing of Robert E. Howard. Furthermore the Hour of the Dragon mentions nothing of Xaltotun's parentage. However, the reason I did bring up the examples of Akivasha who although she is also a member of the Giant-King race she gained her immortality in a different manner than being cursed or being a vengeful spirit, and not simply because she was a member of an "elder race" which by no means granted one immortality. She gained it through sorcery, magic, willingly. The same is true for Tascela who was human. And since both of them gained their immortality through magical means, and likely so did Mek Kamoses, would they not be better examples of how he might have actually obtained it?
@@paulmiller7838 Thulsa appears in other materials, including the movie and comics after Howard's death. In Kull the Conqueror #3, Thulsa is depicted as a skull-headed being with shining eyes. Howard describes the Elder Race as having 'luminous eyes' (paraphrase). That allusion is also present in Delcardes' Cat, where his eyes are described as having 'livid fire'. Whether that is actual fire, or just appears as such, is down to reader interpretation. The canon-ness of those sources are debatable, but seeing as Howard's works have been adapted and built upon over and over again, it's more of a personal distinction as to where that line lies. The video I linked prior covers the circumstantial evidence of Xaltotun's parentage. HotD makes no mention of them, as the link to the Kinscourge is a modern one that requires evidence from in-game, along with evidence from HotD. Akivasha and Tascela may have been good extended universe examples. However, Xaltotun and Thulsa are more well-known examples. I primarily focus on in-game lore with some backing from the wider universe, as and when I come across it. Regardless of if they were included, the conclusion would have been the same: The Outer Dark, and control of the arcane
@@Eradicati0nn OK, I see, you are using the movies / comics as material which are not really canon. That would make more sense as to why there was a disconnect between our lines of thinking. Thank you very much for taking the time for explaining things. I have been a fan of your videos for a long time even if I don't always comment but this one just threw me off as I had no idea where you were getting your information from.
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The Maelstrom a.k.a. The Crawling Chaos from Isle of Siptah. The Crawling Chaos is one of Nyarlathotep's monikers.😁 Maybe the history of Lemurian Remnant (there's some interesting stuff in R.E.H.'s "The Hyborian Age" essay)?
I think a overview on the history and current state of the Unnamed City would be amazing
my vote is on golem body. COME ON MAN HIS NAME IS MEK IT'S PERFECT
Mek Mek? That would be one hell of a nick name.
I personally don't think they'll go Golem, but it is a viable option for sure
@@Eradicati0nn HE IS PRECISION!
"The Outer Dark is a path to many abilities some consider... Unnatural"
I still can't get my head around how he survived.
I guess he was feeling really headstrong having gained new sorcerous power.
One would say he should have quit while he was ahead but he probably attracted the attention and ire of Toth-Amon, who decided to head to the Exiled Lands and head Mek off at the pass before he could escape the Exiled Lands and spearhead his revenge attack.
Bruh 😂
@@Eradicati0nn I like how I managed to make a bunch of puns while sharing genuine theories
Heady stuff, isn't it?
Caught me off guard with the Adam Smasher/Conanpunk joke! I *was* enjoying that tea, now it's all over my keyboard.
He needs a golem body.
Call him Mecha Moses.
I thought the Priest-King was reanimated as part of the curse that brought back the Kinscourge. It affected the Silent Legion and the now Undead Dragon in the Arena due to their connection with the intended target. In any case, there's also a small camp of Darfari near the Sinkhole that got so intensely corrupted that they passed immediately into undeath without realizing it, which is neat and could add more to this. Makes sense with the corrupted Vitality perk that petrifies your flesh.
It's never directly stated if the Priestking is resurrected as a result of the same curse. It's said that the Diadem resurrects him, but whether it's because of the Diadem itself, or the curse, isn't defined. I personally think they're separate, though closely linked versions of similar sorcery
Oh dude! Very appreciative of this! perfect timing and vibe for my week end to begin! Thanks m8
Thanks Simcha, glad you enjoyed it! I got some more planned out
One thing that confuses me is that Mek technically doesn't wear a bracelet anymore, so how might that work? What is keeping him in the exiled lands?(besides not being able to walk)
As far as we know, nothing. If he manages to find a body without a bracelet, he's home free, but I'm guessing they're not abundant in TEL. It'll be interesting to see how that pans out
@@Eradicati0nn Or maybe the bracelet's powers work on one's soul as well as the body and extend beyond death? Then again, it might not, because if Mek-Kamoses managed to become a sentient undead, that would mean he has an access to his sorcery, which was previously nullified by the bracelet. Or maybe it's Kurak's brand of sorcery?
@@jankoval I think the bracelet only works on the body, rather than the soul. This is something I'll likely end up delving into a bit more in another Raw Lore episode in the future. The Keystone pretty much confirms that, but the keystone itself is fairly problematic in the lore (already working on a video about that too)
Kurak and Mek's brands of sorcery seem a bit different, though both work by somehow subverting the bracelet. It seems the bracelet was made to restrict most types of magic, but some have managed to either get around it, or were developed after the bracelets were made, thus rendering the restriction incompatible
He will graft to his own mummified body. His Khitan servants are preparing his body for the ritual, which is why it is missing.
Guessing we will find out after The Age of War, at the latest. One possible guess could be the new dungeon, that we can currently see the entrance to. Between the west by northwest entrance to the unnamed city, and the silvermine.
thanks for the heads up, I didn't know there was something new to see
I figured it was basically a form of litchdom and that before being sent to the exile lands he put his soul in a container. Considering powerful magic users live hundreds or thousands of years I imagine it is probably easy to do something like that for a magic user on his level.......or the dev's didn't want him gone from the story so just said "Talking head, that is funny".
I know it's not going to happen, but I just imagine Mek body snatching like Specules from Korgoth of Barbaria
Dude your lore videos are underrated asf your editing choice of music and sound, and of course the choice of visual representation is top notch. 10/10.
I cant believe you "only" have 30k subs.
Im currently binge watching every lore video you have out yet and I hope for more in the future.
I love your love for Lovecraft my brother and wish you all the best.
Thank you for making the conan universe feel so much more alive you are doing a great service for many like me.
Cthulhu llll ah ymg
Thanks Gera! The lore videos always take a long time for that exact reason, I wanna nail the presentation every time 😂 There will most definitely be more in the future!
@@Eradicati0nn yes I can imagine! To name one aspect the placing of every npc and getting the angles for every shot must be torture but remember that guys like me really appreciate your work.
All the best to you and success with your channel, quality sooner or later always pays out.
love this thinking E. You Ahead of the game!! ;)
Thanks Sesimie! I've got some other Raw Lore videos cooking up at the moment too, next one should be pretty important for a glaring issue in the lore 👀
Admin privileges + god mode. Meta-Kamosses
What mod do you use to have the witch queen mask as a prop in the sand?
A wearable version of the Witch Queen mask is in the admin panel, and then I put it onto a helmet display from the Fashionist mod and just buried it in the sand a bit :)
Mek survived by the power of Funcom 🙂
How did Mek Survive? the boring answer is that he is a religion teacher and thus has to be available.
I personally think Mek will either take the body of Kurak as you hypothesized or one of the Stygian invaders, which i think to be more likely because it won't "break" the dungeon. At the end of the day it depends on what they will do with the storyline after the age of war
I don't think he'd necessarily have to be available as a religion teacher, his role could be taken by any unknown Setite, or even a book left near his spire. As for the dungeon, I think Kurak is still a viable possibility because the dungeon has technically already 'happened', as such. Dungeons and boss fights are kinda weird, as you should only ever be able to do them once in the lore sense, but they can be ran forever because it's a game. Kinda weird to rationalize, same as the Keystone, but that's kinda the nature of games with story and replayable elements
This is almost a triumph,
I'd make a note here,
"Near success"
It's hard to overstate my mix reaction.
Arcane Sorcery
I do what I must because I can,
For power over life and death,
Except I'm now just a head.
But there's no point crying over every mishap,
I'll just get a body made of crystal and crap,
And the spells'll get done and the demon will come,
For the mortals who are still alive..
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.😁
you forgot the at the end 🤣
I want a golem Mechamek. Or Mekmech.
Xaltotun was and acheronian, and was resurrected by the Heart Of Ahriman, and destroyed by it. Tsotha Lanti survived in the same way Mek did, sorcery, in the story The Scarlet Citadel.
" Before Tsotha could toss the globe in his left hand, Conan's sword sheared through his lean neck. The wizard's head shot from his shoulders on an arching fount of blood, and the robed figure staggered and crumpled drunkenly. Yet the mad black eyes glared up at Conan with no dimming of their feral light, the lips writhed awfully, and the hands groped, as if searching for the severed head. Then with a swift rush of wings, something swooped from the sky-the eagle which had attacked Tsotha's horse. In its mighty talons it snatched up the dripping head and soared skyward, and Conan stood struck dumb, for from the eagle's throat boomed human laughter, in the voice of Pelias the sorcerer.
Then a hideous thing came to pass, for the headless body reared up from the sand, and staggered away in awful flight on stiffening legs, hands blindly outstretched toward the dot speeding and dwindling in the dusky sky. Conan stood like one turned to stone, watching until the swift reeling figure faded in the dusk that purpled the meadows."
There's some descriptions of Xaltotun that describe him in the same way Howard describes The Elder Races. That's likely because he's at least partly of the Giant King blood, as I believe he's the son of The Kinscourge, Xalthar
you should have used the original thulsa doom from age of kull. as the movie has very little to do with conan stories.
I don't think any of these examples fit Mek. Kurak practiced sorcery for far longer, was part of a powerful race of serpent men and if we believe that he made a pact with a demon then it makes far more sense that he gets to come back or not fully die the encounter with the exile. Mek lost his powers when he was cast out here in TEL so it's been many ages since he practiced. He hasn't communed with any dark powers in TEL until Kurak suddenly shows up. I also believe Mek having stoic control is a pretty funny notion. He was consumed by hate, revenge and fueled by selfish reasons. He claims Kurak is devious and causing murderous chaos yet he commits the exact same atrocities in his attempts to gain power as well. Just because he wasn't screaming and cackling doesn't mean he wasn't going mad. The clip you play of him talking about Kurak and control makes him sound like a complete lunatic. You say the Witch Queen was driven by unbridled rage and fury? I feel this is wrong. Her people were hunted like animals and driven out of their home lands. They then are betrayed by the giant kings who tried to wipe them all out. The biggest example of her humanity even in sprit is how she saves the life of Razma after you defeat her with the mask on. Someone consumed by rage and fury would not even consider this as an option.
Considering he was originally part of a circle of Set worshippers seems the only way to go. If Toth and Kurak either pissed off Set or tried to betray the demon who they made the pact with would result in major repercussions. Mek being used as a tool to vengefully take out the people that pissed off a higher entity would make more sense. When he finds Kurak he doesn't even go to take out his enemy himself. He hides behind the exile and uses you to do it for him. There's nothing powerful about that. I believe it makes more sense for him to be used by a higher power to take out the others and have to endure the rest of his existence on a shriveled up serpent man body. That seems like something the higher powers would allow as it is very entertaining to them. Those are my thoughts.
Kurak is a serpent-men so i don't think Mek want his body.
Based on what evidence do you make the claim that Thulsa Doom is a member of the Giant King race? Also, how exactly do you claim that Xaltotun is the son of the Kinscouge? Where precisely are you getting this "information" from?
Also, if you were going to bring up undead character from Conan Lore, why not bring up Akivasha who lived in Stygia 10,000 years before the time of Conan, when the Giant-Kings ruled the land and was likely herself a member of that race (as were a few people written in the Howard Stories and why I absolutely hate the way they are depicted in Conan Exiles).
Or perhaps Tascela who had to sacrifice youthful people in order to maintain her own immortal youth?
I said that Thulsa Doom is a member of the elder race (or races). He's not a Giant King, though the context of the line might have implied so.
I've detailed my thoughts on Xaltotun and his possible parentage in this video: ua-cam.com/video/u3_TVZbks80/v-deo.html
Thulsa Doom and Xaltotun were brought up as two subjects in the wider lore, though ones that were already at least partially represented in the non-human category by the Priestking. Seeing as both Thulsa and Xaltotun are elder race, it was used as an example to rule out Mek being a member of the elder race, hence why I also didn't mention Akivasha. Tascela's immortality also wasn't particularly pertinent to this video, as I'm looking specifically for people that died and were resurrected. Thulsa didn't particularly fall into that category, but was a good back-up example of ruling out the Elder Race theory
@@Eradicati0nn There is nothing in Delcardes Cat which states that Thulsa Doom is of any race, elder or human. So I ask you again, where are you getting your information from as it is clearly not from writing of Robert E. Howard. Furthermore the Hour of the Dragon mentions nothing of Xaltotun's parentage.
However, the reason I did bring up the examples of Akivasha who although she is also a member of the Giant-King race she gained her immortality in a different manner than being cursed or being a vengeful spirit, and not simply because she was a member of an "elder race" which by no means granted one immortality. She gained it through sorcery, magic, willingly. The same is true for Tascela who was human. And since both of them gained their immortality through magical means, and likely so did Mek Kamoses, would they not be better examples of how he might have actually obtained it?
@@paulmiller7838 Thulsa appears in other materials, including the movie and comics after Howard's death. In Kull the Conqueror #3, Thulsa is depicted as a skull-headed being with shining eyes. Howard describes the Elder Race as having 'luminous eyes' (paraphrase). That allusion is also present in Delcardes' Cat, where his eyes are described as having 'livid fire'. Whether that is actual fire, or just appears as such, is down to reader interpretation. The canon-ness of those sources are debatable, but seeing as Howard's works have been adapted and built upon over and over again, it's more of a personal distinction as to where that line lies.
The video I linked prior covers the circumstantial evidence of Xaltotun's parentage. HotD makes no mention of them, as the link to the Kinscourge is a modern one that requires evidence from in-game, along with evidence from HotD.
Akivasha and Tascela may have been good extended universe examples. However, Xaltotun and Thulsa are more well-known examples. I primarily focus on in-game lore with some backing from the wider universe, as and when I come across it. Regardless of if they were included, the conclusion would have been the same: The Outer Dark, and control of the arcane
@@Eradicati0nn OK, I see, you are using the movies / comics as material which are not really canon. That would make more sense as to why there was a disconnect between our lines of thinking. Thank you very much for taking the time for explaining things. I have been a fan of your videos for a long time even if I don't always comment but this one just threw me off as I had no idea where you were getting your information from.