Yeah ik. And the dude that was the "victim" getting in trouble uploaded the full video of him explaining what happened and the ski resort just completely B.S'd them so hard
Ya exactly I’ve snowboarded down that slopes how many times in last years and I don’t know what they wer doing different from what I do all the time..🤦🤷♂️
As a skier, there are skiers and snowboarders that are out of control and/or dangerous to others but they are not. Sure they were doing freestyle stuff but they were not being unsafe to anyone whether it’s themselves or others.
That rule doesn't even make any sense. How can the slowest rider set the pace? If you're going slower than the slowest rider, aren't they going faster than you?
I’m a kid and I have skied so fast into a ski patrol officer and shoot past them they don’t have a problem with me but when my dad is following me trying to keep up on his board he gets pulled
“They filmed themselves speeding down the mountain” what video did you guys watch? They gave people space, they slowed down when they were asked, they even stopped and hung out for a minute on the side of the run.
They uploaded the ful video. You can tell that the workers in yellow 100% lied about the events. They were passed by half the mountain so couldn't of been going fast. That like driving a car and being overtaken multile times but still getting in trouble for going fast, you know a mistake has been made. the clip they showed at the end was the only point in his whole video where he went fast, for a bend with no people near him
Awful reporting. Most of the clips you showed happened in the terrain park, not schoolmarm. Also, you aren't going to report the fact that Keystone Mountain Safety employees were caught lying on video?
It think some of you guys don't get it. Crappy riders sort of know how to be crap without running into the other crappy riders. It's when you put experts in with the crappy riders do you have bad accidents.
@@zeaferjones1404 not true at all, I saw probably a dozen crappy riders run i to each other at heavenly today. An experienced boarder will be able to get out of the way of someone not looking up the mountain and snaking them much easier
@@MinorProduction You might be right but the way I see it is think about an empty parking lot that parents let their kids try to learn how drive in. Now put professional nascar drivers going 150 mph in that parking lot.
Btw “cash”, the guy with the Red Bull hat is not actually a pro athlete. He buys those Red Bull hats and helmets off eBay and puts his name on the back with stickers himself
Sometimes, it is more profitable to be wrong than right and hated rather than loved. It is a cold calculus that has undermined faith in journalists. We all saw the video. I see idiots putting others at risk nearly every time I ride up a chair, but those boarders were being incredibly respectful.
Shows the power and reach Vail ski resorts has over their clientele, they knew Johnathins video was going viral, so they tried to get the media to back them up. If you think the news covered this segment because they were concerned for the public and not because a vail resorts investor tried to get media back up then ive got great beachside real estate for you in Colorado as well 👍
The insistence of that director that they were somehow being irresponsible is such bs. And the disingenuous gesturing at the "slow" sign... They weren't going fast near the slow signs. Just a totally dishonest and patronizing portrayal of events.
are you dumb af? speeding through a kid area is unacceptable, quit defending a pile of garbage the snowboarding community does NOT support a**holes like that prick playing the victim when hes clearly in the wrong. He got banned from vail rightfully
@@finklefartspcflipping2774he’s right! The backflip isn’t even from that run! That was way earlier on before they even got to schoolomar! FALSE REPORTING!
I’m with buckhouse, he is extremely nice and good at snowboarding and I have seen his videos and would never say he was trying to be dangerous. I have seen his video and those safety patrols were out their minds.
They clearly did. The final clip they showed was the fastest he went in his entre video around the bend with the trees. They chose taht and edited to make him look bad. They must of been paid by the mountain for PR as their social media was getting bombarded.
I don’t know John personally, but I have followed his UA-cam channel for two years. A few things I can say for certain- he is a good person, a family man, and he is always concerned with the well being of others. As a former snowboard instructor from Washington state, it is my opinion that they were not going too fast. It appears that the patrol person that stopped them was upset and wanted to make an example out of them. I have boarded the Colorado area several times, beautiful mountains and amazing people. Unfortunately there are still a few old timers that really don’t like boarders and take advantage of their authority. Such is the case here.
Im a ski coach and I completely agree. Where they speeding and doing expert tricks ? Yes, where they passing dangerously close to beginners ? No. Just let them be, and stop the snowboard ski hate pls.
Lol this is ridiculous, there were shots taken out of the day that weren’t on the same run they got stopped. So that’s false showing! Plus this is the most family friendly snowboarder there is on the planet! #freebuckhouse
Typical of a news station to only get half of the storie. The video that went viral only showed a bit of the situation. Johnathan Buckhouse just put up a video up that entails the whole incident. As a subscriber to Johnathan's channel, I can say he is totally a safe rider. They were told to slow down by one safety patrol and they did. At no time were they told to stop. They did stop within ear shot of one. They were on the side of the run hitting side hits. Yes backflips were probably not the best of idea, but they were going at a safe pace. The safety patrol just didn't want to listen. For those that want to say I am not a rider, I'm not one of Johnathan's, but I do ride and I've been down Schoolmarm plenty of times.
Those side hits back onto the piste weren’t built, they were carved my thousands of boards and skis going over them at speed. Were thousands of people also stopped? Seems ridiculous that they just target people having fun without any prior warning or information about what they could or couldn’t do. Set the expectations properly, don’t punish those who have to guess what is your interpretation. That is what an organisation is for… organising.
That took a lot of courage for those snowboarders to go down the family run. Those family runs are dangerous. All them Jerrys losing their skis and watching them fly down the hill like a missile. Very dangerous. Glad those snowboarders made it out safely.
Happened to me a few days ago at Park City, I was literally in the lift life for Crescent express when some Jerry coming down Homerun smashed into me full speed. He just laid there on the ground looking at me with the most confused face ever. Didn't say a word.
Jonathan is a nicer guy than he is a good snowboarder. You can go and watch the raw footage of the incident and they obeyed the request to slow down and went the rest of the run a good pace. The Ski patrol made their own narrative, but the video backs up Johnathan and crew did no wrong. There are people that bomb down Schoolmarm and need to be stopped. Johnathan and crew are not those people. #freebuckhouse Keystone should apologize and utilize Jonathan in a positive way. He has done more for promoting Keystone than Keystone themselves. The whole notion of slow is so vague that it is meaningless. Put up speed limits on certain runs and put up guns that display your speed so you can know what that speed limit feels like.
@@mysticrider76 I stand corrected. Mountain safety and ski patrol are two different groups with different functions. My points are still valid regardless of this error.
Keith Jones ski patrol = qualified individuals with reasonable power which they use in a reasonable manner for a useful and necessary task. On the other hand, mountain safety = bored race team parents or grumpy people with zero qualifications and a little bit of power which they abuse in unnecessary ways. But your points are valid.
@@eastwardExpansion Yes, I incorrectly called them ski patrol Those guys are the best. Yellow jackets have a difficult job and when I'm there on spring break they are no where to be seen on Schoolmarm when they need to be. 3:30-4:30 it is a scary place with all the bombing straightliners coming back from the back two mountains.
@@eastwardExpansion Basically spot on there. Ive never had a problem with ski patrol. Ive even snowboarded with them. They are very well trained and informative and could possibly save your ass if need be. These idiots called mountain safety are a joke. Glad none of them in the midwest. Yall can come here and throw a flip on a green run anyday. We will help you build the jump too! :)
If you watch their video, there are people passing them the whole time. The video doesnt lie. Anyone who thinks the boarders are at fault are just salty.
The vast majority of people speaking on this issue have never even tried snowboarding in their lives. I’ve been an avid subscriber to Johnny B for years now and the mans always keeps safety in check. Keystone is just butthurt they can’t control advanced riders like they can beginners.
Eliot Pacella Word. At the same time tho I can kinda see why they are getting pissy on a green run. I get that this dude is making videos but there is no reason for anyone with skill to hit those runs unless they are teaching someone else.
@@deadtome44 green runs like this are perfect for practicing your more technical ground tricks as well as advanced side hit tricks with minimal consequence. It's completely wrong to restrict riders to certain hills based off skill.
Turc44 additionally many green runs are major arteries between peaks, lifts, base areas, and the run out back to the bottom. In many cases, skiers and riders need to take green runs to get somewhere regardless of their skill level. Additionally, if you really need an isolated area to learn to ski there is always the learning center; once you are out on the real mountain you should really be prepared and in control enough to be around other skiers and riders.
@@deadtome44 Keep your butt at the bottom of the hill. Clearly youve never been to the top and rode down on anything. Green runs are your main runs to everything else, especially at a place like this. Also classification of runs are kinda a moot point. what is a diamond run on a smaller hill could be considered a green run on a bigger hill. Run classification is based on the hill and its skill required based on other more technical runs of that hill. Also you dont practice on 30 foot monster table top jumps to try new things. You do that on easy runs with smaller side hits and smaller obstacles. Know your limits and work your way up.
@@MidwestMTBAdventures I haven’t been on a green run in at least 10 years unless absolutely necessary. Plenty of side hits on less crowded parts of the mountain. Ski patrol doesn’t know if you are skilled enough to avoid the beginners, so there are rules in place. Have some common sense. See ya at the bottom ✌🏻.
@@ccshideler you're brian is a little late to the party. Have you ever been on a ski hill? There was zero close calls there. No one was near enough to be in any danger of getting hit.
Let me clarify the mountain is in fact for everybody, but these guys just didn't look that irresponsible, they were back flipping bit but they generally appeared to be giving people space
They were cruising completely in control at the speed of the rest of traffic. The yellow jackets acted like complete jackasses and now these reporters are making asses of themselves as well.
Ugh I hate how most everybody in these comments sides with keystone, so let me break it down. To get to the park, where they were headed, they have no choice but to go on this family run. Not only were they completely in control, they were going at reasonable speed. They were told once to stop, but they did not see the yellow jackets trying to tell them to slow down. Later on, they were stopped and forced to take a safety class even though they did not know why. They are professionals, who had complete control and had to take that family route. I wish the people on these comments would do their research or actually know about snowboarding and keystone before assuming things. Keystone is 100 percent at fault here.
@@MrBobzilla1959 no im honest, youre the one lying to yourself from some bias. they were clearly going too fast for a beginner area, end of story. Amazing what kind of excuses and childish lying you fall for
@@MElixirDNB Yah I repeat You're delusional. They were NOT going fast! CO. is a nazi controled LibTurd state. Ive never seen or heard of a "Mountain Safety Patrol" just what we need mountain nazi's NOT!!!
@@MrBobzilla1959 they were going fast, youre blind or super low iq to argue with whats clearly on video. They ignored the first person warning them and argued like children instead of simply owning up to their mistake. Nazi? You dont even know history, communists are what liberals are dummy
Wow, I clicked on this to give y’all props for reporting this story. Instead I guess I’ll settle at taking a shot at dying media. This is why people don’t like the news anymore. When we can watch raw footage what you actually are doing by presenting this sorry in this way is showing your blazing incompetence or your malicious intent.
Seems to be a problem of the country. I went skiing several times in multiple European countries and never was an institution like this Ski Patrol necessary. Helpers on the mountain are just there for medical emergencies and the rest is settled by common sense and unspoken rules.
Terrible reporting, they were not going fast at all. They were in control the whole time and were not going that fast. Looks like I’m never going to keystone.
I think it's funny that the old lady thinks the mountain is in her control. Vail is only there because the Forest Service allows it. The property is National Forest, not Vail. Even the "management" is not smart.
@@donziperk I have asked myself that question a few times this season. I guess it's so I can ride every day with kid half my age and keep up. I had over 130 days last year. You?
those type of guys make the slopes more entertaining, I used to love watching guys do tricks, ask the little boys and girls how they liked seeing a guy do a backflip? if they are not hurting nobody then stfu
I love how Denver-7 took clips of him riding in blues and in the park and juxtaposed it with this incident to make him look disrespectful. Main reason I 1) own an IKON and 2) don’t watch the news 😂💀
I think many are missing the point here. Just because you are skilled does not mean you are above the rules of the resort. There is no question that these experienced snow boarders were in control of themselves BUT they were in a clearly marked slow speed beginner and family area where their higher speed and maneuvers could be distracting and scary to beginners. They belong on the advanced slopes appropriate to their skill level with others who are used to boarders of that level and speed. While a better action by the ski patrol could have been to simply wave these guys over and suggest that they move to slopes more appropriate to their skill levels, STOP BUSTING ON THE SKI PATROL!! I have witnessed countless times these folks have to deal with entitled skiers and boarders who feel they should be allowed to go wherever they want with no regard to others on the slopes. I have watched them get abused for trying to stop someone barely in control from being on slopes beyond their skill level where they present a threat to not only themselves but also to others on the hill. I have watched them deal with the injuries resulting from out of control skiers and boarders. Sure they get short tempered at times…wouldn’t you dealing with people who treat you with contempt all day? I fully respect their tough job and am fully in their camp on this one.
I've had this same thing happen to me. Ski patrol lied out of their ass saying that I ran into a family among others things that I'd supposedly done that I absolutely hadn't.
How can this be called bombing? If you knew anything about skiing and/or snowboarding this is a very very mellow run. If you’ve seen the raw footage you can tell that these guys know what they are doing and keep both safe distance, a low speed and a high respect for others as well as obeying ski patrol. I am a dad that have been skiing and snowboarding for 30+ years and I could honestly say that I would have these guys passing me and my children all day long in the slopes rather that any middle aged newbi. The slopes are for everyone but apparently not in Keystone.
He was not boming it he should not take a safety class that is so stupid the little kids where going faster then them.there is no reason to stop them they were just having fun and doing what they love
I saw Jonathan’s raw footage and now seen this. At least the comment section is keeping it clear and honest. The keystone safety patrols are ridiculous. I already skied a few days there this season and i always slowed down when the yellow slow signs coming up. They don’t stop the people who’s really fast with no control, but they gave me warning when I made a few not that fast small carving turns, on one side with no people around
None of those snowboarders even came close to causing an accident. Can someone please define the definition of slow for me? Those boarders were slow relative to their ability. I didn't see them doing anything dangerous. I skied Keystone one day about 35 years ago and wasn't impressed. A-Basin is a much better mountain. Avoid Keystone!
The snowboarders stayed to the sides of the trails, they slowed down when the patrol told them at the beginning, and the news failed to note several of the out of control skiers and snowboarders seen in the footage that were not stopped.
When they were told to slow down, they did even though everyone else on that run was going the same speed or even faster. Furthermore, they were on the side of run literally in the trees! This is ridiculous!
This is crazy. They were absolutely within their limits and also respected the others around them. Y’all pointed out the backflips. Nothings wrong with doing a backflip when you are in control and there’s no one around as these guys were doing. The older skier wanted to make an example out of them.
You’ve taken footage filmed on different slopes and different days to make it look like the boarder were being reckless on the slopes. Watch the raw footage, they didn’t nothing wrong and were not bombing it down the slopes
Dear Vail, crap like this from your people who straight up lied on camera when you watch the raw footage is what kept/keeps me from ever going on the Epic Pass. Tricks are not bad, speed can be, and these guys were never once out of control when you watch the full footage.
Wow!!! Do you guys see how this news report sided with keystone employees?! That’s so unfair and uncalled for. So stupid. The little girls were going faster than them. The rules of the road were changed just because they were good. These people targeted them just because they were expert snowboarders
Bullcrap, watch the raw footage they were literally going the same speed as everyone else. Mountain safety is outright lying. And Denver 7 can report about as well as a 5 year old with a mic.
For Context: The riders (Buckhouse) were going along at a regular speed, the same with everyone else. Then, a mountain safety patrol guy yell at them to slow down, they yell back saying "Yes" and promptly slow down, giving the guy a thumbs up. He slows down and stays to the side of the run, and they continue to do this for the rest of the run. They then get pulled over by the mountain safety, and lectured. The mountain safety claims they were ripping past (in the gopro recording they are clearly going at a regular pace), and the mountain safety claims that they were flipped off, yet all of the riders were wearing mittens. Also, in the background of the video, Johnothan Buckhouse (the guy in trouble) is more concerned about the skiers in the background who were falling over in the middle of the run than the mountain safety. What a joke of a mountain patrol. The whole video is on his channel where he covers this in depth.
Ok, but what about before they started recording? They had already been warned previously. If you are going to simp for idiots, at least pretend to be objective.
@@someguy5035 They were never warned previously so there's your bias. They started recording when they started riding. If you are going to be an idiot, at least try to not be this obvious.
I am a ski racer from the east and the same stuff happens all the time to us. We get our passes pulled for going too fast when we are in control. I feel for these snowboards man they are usually the coolest people on the mountain. I hope they got their passes back
If they try and pull your pass take off your skis and run back to your car ! What are they going to do tackle you and pull it out of your pocket ! Assuming they don't know your name you can return again soon just wear different ski clothes
Same stuff happens to us, at my home resort we always get flagged down for skiing trees (which being in a non mountainous region is the most advanced terrain we can ride here… really sucks) never had passes pulled but it is really annoying when you sign a waiver freeing resorts of liability to get a pass and ski patrol bit€hes at you for riding terrain that is within your riding ability
@@copythatchannel what exactly is "slow"? Please define it for us. Slow for you is most likely not slow for me. And vice versa. Roads have explicitly defined speeds, so we know what is expected of us
@@copythatchannel keystone has slow signs at the edge of steep terrain, merging runs, and the base of the mountain. That does not mean you have to go slow through the whole run as they are just there for safety purposes. I’ve seen hundreds bomb green runs every single year, as long as you are in your own comfort level they need to fuck off
This is completely wrong, the guy that says he is all about being safe on the slopes was going faster than they were. And half of those clips weren’t even on the same day, area, or season.
yeah i saw this video, you guys need to calm down. im not from the keystone area nor ive never been there, but i see people always doing tricks and stuff on greens, and i do too! so why are you stopping these gentelmen when there are hundreds of other skiers/snowboarders doing the same thing? its completely normal.
I was thinking of going here but it looks like the sort of place you’d feel uncomfortable skiing, like you are being watched by someone waiting to take your pass.
I follow Jonathan on UA-cam and he was never on a family run. He was on a black to a blue in the matter of 1:00. “Keystone is building an amazing park and all this year but there losing there reputation of have good ski patrol” Jonathan said. The video name is “getting our year passes pulled for speeding?” Hope this clears things up a bit.
I saw the whole video of this, including the riders going down. They were not going too fast, were in control, not doing anything dangerous near anyone outside their group, you can clearly see none of the ski patrol they past along the way made even any motion to slow them down, also they went slow in the slow zones. The ski patrol were in the wrong, and unprofessional about this whole incident. This is why at other resorts skiers and boarders will try to evade the ski patrol and actually become dangerous. If you watch the whole incident you will see this group maintained great composure with the unprofessional ski patrol. And even one guy on the radio, a manage or someone, who was in no way involved in the incident threatening them if he had to come down.
Those dudes were completely safe with what they were doing, crazy to be cited for that. Come on up to Mt Baker, WA; you’ll be cheered from the chairs! -dude who likes going down the hill on 2 sticks
Look at the raw footage on John's channel and you will see that him and his friend slowed down and where in control all the time. Come to the Alps instead of the shitty slopes in Keystone. The mountain patrol boss knew he was wrong but didn't want to loose the "fight" so he flexed his authority and gave the two young men a black stamp to show an example that you can not argue with the patrols.
“Family skiing zone” as if thats a law or something... i wanna buy these kids new season passes for next year, keep ripping it up dudes. Dont let the Karen patrol get you down.
This guy has taught me so much about the park and my snowboarding sky rocketed since I started watching him!! BTW this channel is the most biased thing ever.
clearly, you guys never watched the full video. at no point were they going to fast and ski patrol had 2 opportunities to stop them before the bottom of the hill. Keystone making up lies about john flipping them off is laughable. they need to meet their quota for that safety class. You guys might want to watch the full vid and redo this segment
This reporting is just awful.. lol
kwengca welcome to biased news
Yep. One sided reporting and used footage not related to the event to make the boarders look like reckless idiots.
The zoom in on the slow down sign just makes it 100% better and funnier
Foreal, cant even take local news stations seriously anymore. Everything has to be sensationalized. What ever happened to sticking to the facts?
FACTS
This is crazy. ´´Bombing down’´ He was going slower than the little kids.
Yeah ik. And the dude that was the "victim" getting in trouble uploaded the full video of him explaining what happened and the ski resort just completely B.S'd them so hard
And how fast were the little kids going? Just because they are little kids doesn't mean they are going slow.
@@Venisor21 the point is that they got their passes removed, but it was okay for other riders to go faster than them?
@@globetracker917 I agree watch the vedio Bennett
whole vid just screams Vail give us a bunch of money to frame this story a certain way...
They were riding entirely 100% NORMALLY for that area. Other people were even passing them at times.
Ya exactly I’ve snowboarded down that slopes how many times in last years and I don’t know what they wer doing different from what I do all the time..🤦🤷♂️
They are going to fast they are going to kill someone shame on them they should be tried in court
@@blakes6192 what the hell
@@blakes6192 I see you are dumb and a Karen
@@blakes6192 Damn is humanity this dumb holy SHIT
“A lot of people are taking their side online” maybe because they did nothing wrong!
As a skier, there are skiers and snowboarders that are out of control and/or dangerous to others but they are not. Sure they were doing freestyle stuff but they were not being unsafe to anyone whether it’s themselves or others.
Talk about selective editing....
I was gonna say that as well, like holy shit
The raw footage is on the original guys channel
no surprise.. local news is trash. This is another shining example
The slowest rider does not set the pace for everyone else on that run. Keystone sounds ridiculous.
crappy canal we would all be sideslipping down at 0.5 miles an hour
That rule doesn't even make any sense. How can the slowest rider set the pace? If you're going slower than the slowest rider, aren't they going faster than you?
It's laughable. Going by that rules you'd soon come to a stop. I suppose that's about as safe as you get 😂
Everyone would literally be stopped lol
Keystone is definitely ridiculous, I tried keystone one year instead of Copper and it was terrible
But it's ok for the competition team to go down every run.
Bobble W it’s okay for ski racers to close down some of the best parts of the mountain on a Powder Day so they can fucking Race fuck them!!
I’m a kid and I have skied so fast into a ski patrol officer and shoot past them they don’t have a problem with me but when my dad is following me trying to keep up on his board he gets pulled
The comp teams full of 9 year old's think there the shit
Fax dude the race skiers take up the whole hill
@@sarahrunge9711 hell ya speak the truth. You are cool!
“They filmed themselves speeding down the mountain” what video did you guys watch? They gave people space, they slowed down when they were asked, they even stopped and hung out for a minute on the side of the run.
They uploaded the ful video. You can tell that the workers in yellow 100% lied about the events. They were passed by half the mountain so couldn't of been going fast. That like driving a car and being overtaken multile times but still getting in trouble for going fast, you know a mistake has been made.
the clip they showed at the end was the only point in his whole video where he went fast, for a bend with no people near him
Awful reporting. Most of the clips you showed happened in the terrain park, not schoolmarm.
Also, you aren't going to report the fact that Keystone Mountain Safety employees were caught lying on video?
People who are essentially between above average pro level riders are in the most control and are the safest people on the mountain
and the nicest*
It think some of you guys don't get it. Crappy riders sort of know how to be crap without running into the other crappy riders. It's when you put experts in with the crappy riders do you have bad accidents.
@@zeaferjones1404 not true at all, I saw probably a dozen crappy riders run i to each other at heavenly today. An experienced boarder will be able to get out of the way of someone not looking up the mountain and snaking them much easier
@@MinorProduction You might be right but the way I see it is think about an empty parking lot that parents let their kids try to learn how drive in. Now put professional nascar drivers going 150 mph in that parking lot.
Btw “cash”, the guy with the Red Bull hat is not actually a pro athlete. He buys those Red Bull hats and helmets off eBay and puts his name on the back with stickers himself
This sounded like some of the most biased and loaded reporting I’ve ever heard. Shame that objectivity is a thing of the past.
Objective journalism is a contradiction, but ya those reporters are pretentious tools
Sometimes, it is more profitable to be wrong than right and hated rather than loved.
It is a cold calculus that has undermined faith in journalists.
We all saw the video. I see idiots putting others at risk nearly every time I ride up a chair, but those boarders were being incredibly respectful.
Really wish I could agree, but this is just average US small station reporting it feels
Shows the power and reach Vail ski resorts has over their clientele, they knew Johnathins video was going viral, so they tried to get the media to back them up. If you think the news covered this segment because they were concerned for the public and not because a vail resorts investor tried to get media back up then ive got great beachside real estate for you in Colorado as well 👍
How so? They provided enough info so that I could tell Keystone was wrong.
You can see people going way faster than they were in the background
The insistence of that director that they were somehow being irresponsible is such bs. And the disingenuous gesturing at the "slow" sign... They weren't going fast near the slow signs. Just a totally dishonest and patronizing portrayal of events.
The girl they used as an example was going faster than them in the video, go watch. Pull her pass
As a skier, I stand in solidarity with my snowboarding brethren. Peace and love!
Which ones lol
Much love my white powdered brother! ❄️🏂⛷
Much love fellow pow loving brother
are you dumb af? speeding through a kid area is unacceptable, quit defending a pile of garbage the snowboarding community does NOT support a**holes like that prick playing the victim when hes clearly in the wrong. He got banned from vail rightfully
Oh did you see them or something? Or are you just picking sides
This video needs to be taken down, it’s showing footage of them from a different run and it’s false reporting, very unprofessional
@Connor Cruz wtf
@@finklefartspcflipping2774 he’s being sarcastic
@@texman2000 i have to remind people of that all the time these days
@@finklefartspcflipping2774he’s right! The backflip isn’t even from that run! That was way earlier on before they even got to schoolomar! FALSE REPORTING!
@@texman2000no! He’s RIGHT!! THE BACKFLIP WASN’T DONE ON SCHOOLOMAR!
I’m with buckhouse, he is extremely nice and good at snowboarding and I have seen his videos and would never say he was trying to be dangerous. I have seen his video and those safety patrols were out their minds.
Fan boys 😂
Love when the news can't even watch the boarders' full video to see what happened
They clearly did. The final clip they showed was the fastest he went in his entre video around the bend with the trees. They chose taht and edited to make him look bad. They must of been paid by the mountain for PR as their social media was getting bombarded.
I don’t know John personally, but I have followed his UA-cam channel for two years. A few things I can say for certain- he is a good person, a family man, and he is always concerned with the well being of others. As a former snowboard instructor from Washington state, it is my opinion that they were not going too fast. It appears that the patrol person that stopped them was upset and wanted to make an example out of them. I have boarded the Colorado area several times, beautiful mountains and amazing people. Unfortunately there are still a few old timers that really don’t like boarders and take advantage of their authority. Such is the case here.
yeah its like they forget skiing is basically the same as snowboarding both a extreme sport with risks
Yellow jackets are nasty both the ones on snow and the one that fly.
I’ve fallowed Johnathan for over a year and I couldn’t have said it better myself.🙂
He’s a kook
Im a ski coach and I completely agree. Where they speeding and doing expert tricks ? Yes, where they passing dangerously close to beginners ? No. Just let them be, and stop the snowboard ski hate pls.
Lol this is ridiculous, there were shots taken out of the day that weren’t on the same run they got stopped. So that’s false showing! Plus this is the most family friendly snowboarder there is on the planet! #freebuckhouse
Yep that's the media these days, controversy sells,don't mind the truth
Typical of a news station to only get half of the storie. The video that went viral only showed a bit of the situation. Johnathan Buckhouse just put up a video up that entails the whole incident. As a subscriber to Johnathan's channel, I can say he is totally a safe rider. They were told to slow down by one safety patrol and they did. At no time were they told to stop. They did stop within ear shot of one. They were on the side of the run hitting side hits. Yes backflips were probably not the best of idea, but they were going at a safe pace. The safety patrol just didn't want to listen. For those that want to say I am not a rider, I'm not one of Johnathan's, but I do ride and I've been down Schoolmarm plenty of times.
American ski patrol and ski safety is a joke
Those side hits back onto the piste weren’t built, they were carved my thousands of boards and skis going over them at speed.
Were thousands of people also stopped? Seems ridiculous that they just target people having fun without any prior warning or information about what they could or couldn’t do.
Set the expectations properly, don’t punish those who have to guess what is your interpretation. That is what an organisation is for… organising.
2:02 “YOU!! SNOWBOARDER!!!” To the dude just trying to learn who’s clearly not with them😂 the guy just hates snowboarders CLEARLY
So true
If you watch the raw footage from the YT guy that's his buddy who hikes up the hill to rejoin the group moments later.
Who wouldnt? Damn snowboarders 😏
This sums it all.
Facts, you can see him struggling to stay up
That took a lot of courage for those snowboarders to go down the family run. Those family runs are dangerous. All them Jerrys losing their skis and watching them fly down the hill like a missile. Very dangerous. Glad those snowboarders made it out safely.
Lmao
Haven't seen this kind of courage since Pelosi's Congressional social justice warriors took on Putin and FOX news!
Lmfao
preach
Happened to me a few days ago at Park City, I was literally in the lift life for Crescent express when some Jerry coming down Homerun smashed into me full speed. He just laid there on the ground looking at me with the most confused face ever. Didn't say a word.
Jonathan is a nicer guy than he is a good snowboarder. You can go and watch the raw footage of the incident and they obeyed the request to slow down and went the rest of the run a good pace. The Ski patrol made their own narrative, but the video backs up Johnathan and crew did no wrong. There are people that bomb down Schoolmarm and need to be stopped. Johnathan and crew are not those people. #freebuckhouse Keystone should apologize and utilize Jonathan in a positive way. He has done more for promoting Keystone than Keystone themselves.
The whole notion of slow is so vague that it is meaningless. Put up speed limits on certain runs and put up guns that display your speed so you can know what that speed limit feels like.
@@mysticrider76 I stand corrected. Mountain safety and ski patrol are two different groups with different functions. My points are still valid regardless of this error.
Keith Jones ski patrol = qualified individuals with reasonable power which they use in a reasonable manner for a useful and necessary task. On the other hand, mountain safety = bored race team parents or grumpy people with zero qualifications and a little bit of power which they abuse in unnecessary ways. But your points are valid.
@@eastwardExpansion Yes, I incorrectly called them ski patrol Those guys are the best. Yellow jackets have a difficult job and when I'm there on spring break they are no where to be seen on Schoolmarm when they need to be. 3:30-4:30 it is a scary place with all the bombing straightliners coming back from the back two mountains.
@@eastwardExpansion Basically spot on there. Ive never had a problem with ski patrol. Ive even snowboarded with them. They are very well trained and informative and could possibly save your ass if need be. These idiots called mountain safety are a joke. Glad none of them in the midwest. Yall can come here and throw a flip on a green run anyday. We will help you build the jump too! :)
The video that started after they had already been warned for riding recklessly? That video?
If you watch their video, there are people passing them the whole time. The video doesnt lie. Anyone who thinks the boarders are at fault are just salty.
Keystone was 100% in the wrong here and they know it. I'll never give that place my business.
The vast majority of people speaking on this issue have never even tried snowboarding in their lives. I’ve been an avid subscriber to Johnny B for years now and the mans always keeps safety in check. Keystone is just butthurt they can’t control advanced riders like they can beginners.
Eliot Pacella Word. At the same time tho I can kinda see why they are getting pissy on a green run. I get that this dude is making videos but there is no reason for anyone with skill to hit those runs unless they are teaching someone else.
@@deadtome44 green runs like this are perfect for practicing your more technical ground tricks as well as advanced side hit tricks with minimal consequence. It's completely wrong to restrict riders to certain hills based off skill.
Turc44 additionally many green runs are major arteries between peaks, lifts, base areas, and the run out back to the bottom. In many cases, skiers and riders need to take green runs to get somewhere regardless of their skill level. Additionally, if you really need an isolated area to learn to ski there is always the learning center; once you are out on the real mountain you should really be prepared and in control enough to be around other skiers and riders.
@@deadtome44 Keep your butt at the bottom of the hill. Clearly youve never been to the top and rode down on anything. Green runs are your main runs to everything else, especially at a place like this. Also classification of runs are kinda a moot point. what is a diamond run on a smaller hill could be considered a green run on a bigger hill. Run classification is based on the hill and its skill required based on other more technical runs of that hill. Also you dont practice on 30 foot monster table top jumps to try new things. You do that on easy runs with smaller side hits and smaller obstacles. Know your limits and work your way up.
@@MidwestMTBAdventures I haven’t been on a green run in at least 10 years unless absolutely necessary. Plenty of side hits on less crowded parts of the mountain. Ski patrol doesn’t know if you are skilled enough to avoid the beginners, so there are rules in place. Have some common sense. See ya at the bottom ✌🏻.
I don’t see anything wrong for doing your thing on the side of a green slope with no one near.
No one near? Lol
@@ccshideler go fuck yourself
@@CloroxBleach-hi6jd little late to the party dipshit
@@CloroxBleach-hi6jd little late to the party dipshit
@@ccshideler you're brian is a little late to the party. Have you ever been on a ski hill? There was zero close calls there. No one was near enough to be in any danger of getting hit.
Typical Denver 7...Terrible reporting on a subject they know so little about. ..
They probably knew the facts but couldn’t trash Vail so they had to make it this vague narrative
Full video has been posted by myself and a few others in this chat! 😂
Let me clarify the mountain is in fact for everybody, but these guys just didn't look that irresponsible, they were back flipping bit but they generally appeared to be giving people space
The backflip wasn’t even from that run the compiled other clips to make them look bad
They were cruising completely in control at the speed of the rest of traffic. The yellow jackets acted like complete jackasses and now these reporters are making asses of themselves as well.
Ugh I hate how most everybody in these comments sides with keystone, so let me break it down.
To get to the park, where they were headed, they have no choice but to go on this family run.
Not only were they completely in control, they were going at reasonable speed.
They were told once to stop, but they did not see the yellow jackets trying to tell them to slow down.
Later on, they were stopped and forced to take a safety class even though they did not know why.
They are professionals, who had complete control and had to take that family route.
I wish the people on these comments would do their research or actually know about snowboarding and keystone before assuming things.
Keystone is 100 percent at fault here.
A51 is served by Peru chairlift. You can spend all day in the park without ever having to go near Schoolmarm.
@@bobpetty294 nope not where he was, he was at the top, the only way to get to the a51 lift would be schoolmarm.
He doesn't have to go the the top to get to A51. He did have a choice.
@@bobpetty294 he started at the top, it's obvious you've never been skiing or are just a massive Jerry with an IQ lower than a file cabinet.
@@michaels.1676 There you go.
Imagine being told you need to take a "safety class" at a place you already gave your money to, absolutely ridiculous
its totally right and he deserved it. Zooming past beginners is dangerous, its good he got banned since he clearly didnt think he did anything wrong
@@MElixirDNB You're delusional!
@@MrBobzilla1959 no im honest, youre the one lying to yourself from some bias. they were clearly going too fast for a beginner area, end of story. Amazing what kind of excuses and childish lying you fall for
@@MElixirDNB Yah I repeat You're delusional. They were NOT going fast! CO. is a nazi controled LibTurd state. Ive never seen or heard of a "Mountain Safety Patrol" just what we need mountain nazi's NOT!!!
@@MrBobzilla1959 they were going fast, youre blind or super low iq to argue with whats clearly on video. They ignored the first person warning them and argued like children instead of simply owning up to their mistake. Nazi? You dont even know history, communists are what liberals are dummy
Wow, I clicked on this to give y’all props for reporting this story. Instead I guess I’ll settle at taking a shot at dying media.
This is why people don’t like the news anymore. When we can watch raw footage what you actually are doing by presenting this sorry in this way is showing your blazing incompetence or your malicious intent.
Seems to be a problem of the country. I went skiing several times in multiple European countries and never was an institution like this Ski Patrol necessary. Helpers on the mountain are just there for medical emergencies and the rest is settled by common sense and unspoken rules.
Terrible reporting, they were not going fast at all. They were in control the whole time and were not going that fast. Looks like I’m never going to keystone.
I think it's funny that the old lady thinks the mountain is in her control. Vail is only there because the Forest Service allows it. The property is National Forest, not Vail. Even the "management" is not smart.
Typical Karen
Vail well that explains it all
Vial is the worst just ask pass holders at Whistler, Created Butte, Stevens Pass and any other hill they mismanage.
@@donziperk, tell me about it, I wear a blue jacket for Vail.
@@PosiP one question. Why?
@@donziperk I have asked myself that question a few times this season. I guess it's so I can ride every day with kid half my age and keep up. I had over 130 days last year. You?
Wow this report is ridiculous, I've broken my leg due to other skiers, I can say those snow boarders were not at fault from watching the raw footage.
those type of guys make the slopes more entertaining, I used to love watching guys do tricks, ask the little boys and girls how they liked seeing a guy do a backflip? if they are not hurting nobody then stfu
As a European this is disgusting
I love how Denver-7 took clips of him riding in blues and in the park and juxtaposed it with this incident to make him look disrespectful. Main reason I 1) own an IKON and 2) don’t watch the news 😂💀
i think it’s so funny how in the same video of the patroller pulling them over there’s just another guy absolutely nuking down in the background
If he is bombing then I am achieving fucking light speed
I think many are missing the point here. Just because you are skilled does not mean you are above the rules of the resort. There is no question that these experienced snow boarders were in control of themselves BUT they were in a clearly marked slow speed beginner and family area where their higher speed and maneuvers could be distracting and scary to beginners. They belong on the advanced slopes appropriate to their skill level with others who are used to boarders of that level and speed. While a better action by the ski patrol could have been to simply wave these guys over and suggest that they move to slopes more appropriate to their skill levels, STOP BUSTING ON THE SKI PATROL!!
I have witnessed countless times these folks have to deal with entitled skiers and boarders who feel they should be allowed to go wherever they want with no regard to others on the slopes. I have watched them get abused for trying to stop someone barely in control from being on slopes beyond their skill level where they present a threat to not only themselves but also to others on the hill. I have watched them deal with the injuries resulting from out of control skiers and boarders. Sure they get short tempered at times…wouldn’t you dealing with people who treat you with contempt all day? I fully respect their tough job and am fully in their camp on this one.
I've had this same thing happen to me. Ski patrol lied out of their ass saying that I ran into a family among others things that I'd supposedly done that I absolutely hadn't.
Good thing the snowboards respected every person on the mountain. Please train your employees keystone.
Yo yalls might wanna pull this vid or re air a segment now that the raw footage is released ... just an idea lol
yea they may have done a little lying with this report
How can this be called bombing? If you knew anything about skiing and/or snowboarding this is a very very mellow run. If you’ve seen the raw footage you can tell that these guys know what they are doing and keep both safe distance, a low speed and a high respect for others as well as obeying ski patrol. I am a dad that have been skiing and snowboarding for 30+ years and I could honestly say that I would have these guys passing me and my children all day long in the slopes rather that any middle aged newbi. The slopes are for everyone but apparently not in Keystone.
Bro was going slower than my dead grandma
He was not boming it he should not take a safety class that is so stupid the little kids where going faster then them.there is no reason to stop them they were just having fun and doing what they love
YOU CUT OUT A BUNCH OF THE VID THIS NEWS REPORT IS TARSH
I saw Jonathan’s raw footage and now seen this. At least the comment section is keeping it clear and honest. The keystone safety patrols are ridiculous. I already skied a few days there this season and i always slowed down when the yellow slow signs coming up. They don’t stop the people who’s really fast with no control, but they gave me warning when I made a few not that fast small carving turns, on one side with no people around
oh my gosh
this is so messed up, "disregarding everyone else's safety." Johnathon Buckhouse is probably the safest s snowboarder out there.
Keystone has the most parasitic ski patrol on the planet.
None of those snowboarders even came close to causing an accident. Can someone please define the definition of slow for me? Those boarders were slow relative to their ability. I didn't see them doing anything dangerous. I skied Keystone one day about 35 years ago and wasn't impressed. A-Basin is a much better mountain. Avoid Keystone!
The snowboarders stayed to the sides of the trails, they slowed down when the patrol told them at the beginning, and the news failed to note several of the out of control skiers and snowboarders seen in the footage that were not stopped.
When they were told to slow down, they did even though everyone else on that run was going the same speed or even faster. Furthermore, they were on the side of run literally in the trees! This is ridiculous!
“Jonathan Riding normally”, reporters and Karen’s “they were endangering everyone on the mountain”
This is crazy. They were absolutely within their limits and also respected the others around them. Y’all pointed out the backflips. Nothings wrong with doing a backflip when you are in control and there’s no one around as these guys were doing. The older skier wanted to make an example out of them.
🤣🤣🤣🤣LMAO “you, snowboarder!!!” *guy is going 2 MPH and has no idea how to stop*
Totally unfair reporting when you see how he's going fairly slowly and staying on the side of the run.
I respect that snowboarder, this is unreal
Dis sum bull shit
You’ve taken footage filmed on different slopes and different days to make it look like the boarder were being reckless on the slopes. Watch the raw footage, they didn’t nothing wrong and were not bombing it down the slopes
They ain’t bombing, they just taking some side hits and livin it up. These guys probably some of the safest on the mountain
Dear Vail, crap like this from your people who straight up lied on camera when you watch the raw footage is what kept/keeps me from ever going on the Epic Pass. Tricks are not bad, speed can be, and these guys were never once out of control when you watch the full footage.
Wow!!! Do you guys see how this news report sided with keystone employees?! That’s so unfair and uncalled for. So stupid. The little girls were going faster than them. The rules of the road were changed just because they were good. These people targeted them just because they were expert snowboarders
Bullcrap, watch the raw footage they were literally going the same speed as everyone else. Mountain safety is outright lying. And Denver 7 can report about as well as a 5 year old with a mic.
Next up:
Ski patrol arrest beginners on double diamond.
Impeding dope skiers is a crime!
Cheers!
Children can turn in unexpected directions. Even an expert skier can be blindsided. Therapy were wrong to be skiing like that on a kids run.
Johnathan is right, the keystone staff is wrong
For Context: The riders (Buckhouse) were going along at a regular speed, the same with everyone else. Then, a mountain safety patrol guy yell at them to slow down, they yell back saying "Yes" and promptly slow down, giving the guy a thumbs up. He slows down and stays to the side of the run, and they continue to do this for the rest of the run. They then get pulled over by the mountain safety, and lectured. The mountain safety claims they were ripping past (in the gopro recording they are clearly going at a regular pace), and the mountain safety claims that they were flipped off, yet all of the riders were wearing mittens. Also, in the background of the video, Johnothan Buckhouse (the guy in trouble) is more concerned about the skiers in the background who were falling over in the middle of the run than the mountain safety. What a joke of a mountain patrol. The whole video is on his channel where he covers this in depth.
Ok, but what about before they started recording? They had already been warned previously.
If you are going to simp for idiots, at least pretend to be objective.
@@someguy5035 you must be a corny ass skier LOL
@@jlin4606 Imagine this being your reply.
@@someguy5035 how you flip someone off with mittens on? Don't be angry because you can't ride
@@someguy5035 They were never warned previously so there's your bias. They started recording when they started riding.
If you are going to be an idiot, at least try to not be this obvious.
I am a ski racer from the east and the same stuff happens all the time to us. We get our passes pulled for going too fast when we are in control. I feel for these snowboards man they are usually the coolest people on the mountain. I hope they got their passes back
If they try and pull your pass take off your skis and run back to your car ! What are they going to do tackle you and pull it out of your pocket ! Assuming they don't know your name you can return again soon just wear different ski clothes
Same stuff happens to us, at my home resort we always get flagged down for skiing trees (which being in a non mountainous region is the most advanced terrain we can ride here… really sucks) never had passes pulled but it is really annoying when you sign a waiver freeing resorts of liability to get a pass and ski patrol bit€hes at you for riding terrain that is within your riding ability
Does that make it ok for a f1 racer to speed over the road speed limit in a school zone? No! Break the rules. Pay the price. The sign said slow!
@@copythatchannel what exactly is "slow"? Please define it for us. Slow for you is most likely not slow for me. And vice versa. Roads have explicitly defined speeds, so we know what is expected of us
@@copythatchannel keystone has slow signs at the edge of steep terrain, merging runs, and the base of the mountain. That does not mean you have to go slow through the whole run as they are just there for safety purposes. I’ve seen hundreds bomb green runs every single year, as long as you are in your own comfort level they need to fuck off
In the background when they’re talking to ski patrol people are going faster than they ever were. LOL. Keystone needs to get their game together.
This is completely wrong, the guy that says he is all about being safe on the slopes was going faster than they were. And half of those clips weren’t even on the same day, area, or season.
yeah i saw this video, you guys need to calm down. im not from the keystone area nor ive never been there, but i see people always doing tricks and stuff on greens, and i do too! so why are you stopping these gentelmen when there are hundreds of other skiers/snowboarders doing the same thing? its completely normal.
#BailOnVail
1:08 oml this is like my 8 year old ass making a home video type bad
IKR
Lmao!
I was thinking of going here but it looks like the sort of place you’d feel uncomfortable skiing, like you are being watched by someone waiting to take your pass.
go watch the video, i thought the news could be trustworthy
I follow Jonathan on UA-cam and he was never on a family run. He was on a black to a blue in the matter of 1:00. “Keystone is building an amazing park and all this year but there losing there reputation of have good ski patrol” Jonathan said. The video name is “getting our year passes pulled for speeding?” Hope this clears things up a bit.
I saw the whole video of this, including the riders going down. They were not going too fast, were in control, not doing anything dangerous near anyone outside their group, you can clearly see none of the ski patrol they past along the way made even any motion to slow them down, also they went slow in the slow zones. The ski patrol were in the wrong, and unprofessional about this whole incident. This is why at other resorts skiers and boarders will try to evade the ski patrol and actually become dangerous. If you watch the whole incident you will see this group maintained great composure with the unprofessional ski patrol. And even one guy on the radio, a manage or someone, who was in no way involved in the incident threatening them if he had to come down.
#FreeBuckhouse
Imagine paying upwards of 600 dollars just to be told to slowdown and even threatened to get passes revoked, just ridiculous.
Do not ever give ski patrol your pass there is nothing they can do, just go to your vehicle and leave then come back an hour later.
Those dudes were completely safe with what they were doing, crazy to be cited for that. Come on up to Mt Baker, WA; you’ll be cheered from the chairs!
-dude who likes going down the hill on 2 sticks
If it is not your property you HAVE to abide by rules in place. It is Colorado though, so common sense doesn't count.
Look at the raw footage on John's channel and you will see that him and his friend slowed down and where in control all the time.
Come to the Alps instead of the shitty slopes in Keystone.
The mountain patrol boss knew he was wrong but didn't want to loose the "fight" so he flexed his authority and gave the two young men a black stamp to show an example that you can not argue with the patrols.
I’m so glad I keystone isn’t my home mountain those ski patrol people are full of crap.
I just want to say to the mountain safety "OK BOOMER"
Did they speed up his video because it looks a lot faster than the raw footage he posted.
They weren’t doing anything long. They didn’t hit anybody
“Family skiing zone” as if thats a law or something... i wanna buy these kids new season passes for next year, keep ripping it up dudes. Dont let the Karen patrol get you down.
This guy has taught me so much about the park and my snowboarding sky rocketed since I started watching him!! BTW this channel is the most biased thing ever.
clearly, you guys never watched the full video. at no point were they going to fast and ski patrol had 2 opportunities to stop them before the bottom of the hill. Keystone making up lies about john flipping them off is laughable. they need to meet their quota for that safety class. You guys might want to watch the full vid and redo this segment
They were skiing in control and should have gotten a warning
This is literally just average snowboarding