Three Batman and Joker comics that every fan should know!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The very first appearance of the Bat-Man in the six-page story ""The Case of the Criminal Syndicate!"" This issue also features the first appearances of Commissioner Gordon and the revelation of Bat-Man's secret identity as Bruce Wayne. The first comic dedicated exclusively to The Dark Knight, featuring the first appearance of The Joker! And the Clown Prince of Crime is back in Gotham City, and he's going to make everyone pay in this classic story by the legendary creative team of Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #batman
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Ethan should grow out his beard even further. I don't think we have seen Ethan with a beard. We saw Ben with a beard, and Sal is rocking his goatee since he was probably birthed.
I'm here for the chaotic energy in the opening.
Sal bringing in a library book his mum never returned is peak Comic Pop
How often sal talks about that particular book, the book he stole from the library, is a member of the cast
Joker actually has the sanest reason to be an arch nemesis.
Lex Luthor: "He made me bald."
Sinestro: "I was the best until he came along."
Cheetah: "She needed one, and here I am."
Joker: "Every time we meet each other for the first time, he has killed me."
I always thought that Circe is a better archnemesis to Wonder Woman than Cheetah ever could be.
@@chrisdaily2077Agreed, plus I think Cheetah (certain incarnations) is too sympathetic a character. Circe is where it’s at. I can’t wait for the Wonder Woman video game to give Dianas rogues gallery the mainstream attention they deserve.
@@chrisdaily2077well technically if we with the long history. Cheetah was there with Wonder Woman way back then in the golden age so there that
Lex Luthor: "Dick measuring contest " with someone who dose not care and is not competing.
"Ah Batman, we meet for the first time for the last time"
Neal Adams was just ridiculous. His art was so ahead of it's time, it still looks amazing
"Statistically he loses this story" Is an all time back issues quote
Can we just appreciate the end credits of this episode being “created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane” that’s the dream for every time they print that!!
I love how through most iterations of the Joker it has him announcing over radio or tv that he’s gonna murder some people. His theatricality is always there from his first appearance to now
It's kinda neat seeing how some characters do appear to be ageless, huh? I read Batman #1 not too long ago and I swear I could hear Mark Hamill voicing the Joker. He even disguises himself as a cop, just like in TDK.
That bit with the Joker hiding for hours in a suit of armour armed with a blow dart to kill someone is such a pure example of that character to me, it's so goofy yet complete insanity all at once.
I wish we'd see elements of that goofier side of the Joker resurface more in recent depictions, especially in film. Still baffles me that 1989 was the last time we saw Joker use laughing gas in a film.
Was the Joker toxin in the Lego Batman movie?
@@robertwild9447 He may have, I should've specified that I was referring to the live action versions we've had in film
@@tomtudorweaver1078Lego Batman Movie historian here - I can confirm that, unfortunately, Lego Joker does not use his laughing gas at any point during the film. Honestly, Lego Joker is probably the most non-lethal, kid-friendly version of the character since Cesar Romero tbh. It’s ok though because the movie is still peak
Joker in Batman #1 looks and acts exactly like the DCAU one... or is it the other way?
I love how the 60 show, the 89 film, the animated series, and the dark night all kept the tradition of the joker first scheme involves him taking over TV and broadcasting a message
You could argue the entire plot of the movie Joker exists to facilitate him getting to the point that he can do a TV terrorism
I like the idea that Brute Nelson is some sort of public figure and that’s why everyone knows who he is and where he lives
I appreciate the dedication to the finger guns whenever Sal mentions Geoff Johns by name.
I love learning so much from this show, like Bob Kane’s idol to HIMSELF
These Joker stories where he announces his murders always reveal how bad Batman is at his job. Batman laughs at the end at "Five Way Revenge" despite helping 1 out of the 5 victims.
“One is better than none!” -The Bat-Man
For real people always like to praise batman, hahaha but he is really bad at his job.
Nope, it isn't that he's bad at his job at all. Gotham is literally the worst place you could imagine. The odds were stacked against the dark Knight before he put on the cowl. It's a miracle really whenever Batman does succeed. DCs comics have always been a little more grounded than Marvels in the sense that even Superman fails sometimes. This isn't the Avengers there's no happily ever after. It's just Batmans War on crime and evil and in a hellish city full of scum and death worshipping chaos sometimes he can make a difference and that is better than nothing.
Superhero who's bad at their job?
Spawn? Dude has actually sat back and brooding done nothing on many occasions.. he's never used his abilities for what They were intended. Then you have nut jobs like the punisher and Ghost Rider both constantly fuck up even worse when they team up with other heroes.
Well I feel like that’s just particularly the case here. He acts like a naive dolt.
Ben's greatest enjoyment in this is with his Daisy. He is a boy who knows how to handle his Daisy.
I have always liked when the Joker is more expressive, the permanent smile is more traumatic and horifying. But, there is something about the image of a frowning or grimacing clown that is haunting.
The image of him on the first page, laughing while driving in the rain is chilling
An added addendum to the Bob Kane Stan Lee relationship. Kane was always giving Stan Lee a hard time since Batman was getting Movies and Spider-Man was still so far away from being able to do a legit attempt. Kane passed before Stan Lee could finally rub it in his face that Spider-Man finally got a big budget production.
I’m imagining Stan trying to bring up the Nicholas Hammond Spider-Man show, and Bob being a dismissive ass.
Neil Adams has always been one of my favorite artists in the industry. There's just something about his work that stands out amoung the rest. That splash of Batman running is the definitive illustration of Batman in my mind. He didn't just do it with Batman either. That guy can draw superheroes like no other.
Stoked to see some Golden Age Batman love!!! There's so much funny and surprising Batman history, it's an 85 year old gold mine. We recently had Sal on our show to chat first appearance of Penguin, and he killed it as always. Here's to more golden age appreciation in the scene! 🦇
I should check out your show
Shameless plug, but I will be checking out the podcast.
@@amusingmoose9924 we know no shame
@@batlessons listened to a few episodes, and I really enjoy it!
Sal be careful we don't want a certain Library Cop to interrupt this episode.
34:00 Oh wow, they pulled that for The Dark Knight with Joker hiding in the police ranks during the parade sequence.
Double wow because that's also something Snyder pulled for Endgame when he was pretending to be a Doctor at Arkham. Damn, alright Scott.
I’m three minutes in and I’m utterly flabbergasted that there is an actual Cardiac fan in existence.
There are Dozens of us!
@@lucyinchat That number still seems a bit high in my personal opinion. 😂
54:16 "I'm moving to Metropolis." Hahaha
NGL I would love it if you did a similar formula with other short but seminal stories of Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman/whoever else would fit this mold. Poison Ivy first appearance for example is such a weird thing and putting it in comparison to one of her later appearances would be really interesting
The reason that random ghost story is collected in there is because it's the first Batman book by O'Neil and Adams.
😁Bob Kane was such a genius. Imagine how much talent he had, coming up with three stories like that over so many years, and not even counting the stuff he wrote after his death. Amazing.
5:32 Ben was talking about a gun that resurrects people I thought he was going to reference DC's Black Hand, William Hand, because you know Bill Finger
Man, Neal Adams was so good.
I spent summers as a kid finding these random significant issues online and reading them and slowly seeing familiar elements and mythos introduce and evolve. A lot of fun to do with Batman, Supes and Spidey. This was a great episode.
I remember this retcon comic where they imply the killer Batman knocks into acid in his first appearance, is actually Joker, and the acid vat was from Ace Chemicals
I feel like I’ve come back and rewatched this episode more than any other. Please do more Golden Age and other pre-Crisis Batman stories!
I hope this get popular because I want you guys to cover early Justice League
This was a great episode. Seeing the jump from the Batman #1 art to the Adams art was cool to see. I also like how subdued these are. Batman isn't a God, Joker isn't destroying Gotham. Would love to see more O'Neil and Adams Bat Stories on the channel.
I honestly keep returning to this one because of the colors and designs of the thumbnail. it's pretty sweet
Bob Kanes insistence on always being called “the man that created Batman” is so evocative of his insecurity around the fact that he DIDNT create the character alone and in most cases did the bare minimum. Finding out what a piece of crap he was in relation to other comic artists and writers was fascinating. Other artists and editors considered him a joke because he couldn’t draw well to save his life and farmed out the work to other anonymous people constantly. His major contribution was getting his attorney father to somehow negotiate an insanely lucrative deal for the sole creator rights at a time when Superman creators Siegel & Shuster could barely pay the rent!
IDK I think its swung too far in the opposite direction. Yeah Bob Kane got too much credit and was not kind about sharing that credit. But its gone the same way as Stan Lee discussions where people think he didnt do anything basically. We will likely never know the actual specifics of how Batman was created. I doubt Kane and Finger even remembered the exact specifics years later when Batman was huge.
@@ComicCrossing I recommend the film Batman and Bill, there’s enough documentation and evidence out there to quantify where a lot of specific Batman elements came from. It’s not as if Kane did nothing but the ratio of what he actually did compared to what he claimed to have done is staggering and enough to make DC amend credit & residual compensation to this day.
I have Neil adams joker comic from Portland expo a few months back. The variant cover looks exactly the same but instead of the tag line being “look out gothem.” It’s “look out Portland.” It was a fun purchase.
I got that one but for Vancouver
I’m gonna be the nerd from the Simpsons and remind all that the shark repellent was kept in the whirly bird and not on Batman himself. Why an aircraft that isn’t meant for like water rescue would have something like that is beyond me
What always confused me was the whale repellant next to the shark repellant. In what possible situation would one need whale repellant?
YES! I remember as a kid my Mom and Dad buying me a comic that was a collection of Joker stories and that very first one was included. I was so captivated by it. Reading something like that shapes your life forever.
When the copyright is up on Batman it’s going to be a total free for all. I know they are limited to the Batman things from the 40’s but that won’t hold anyone back.
I think they need to stop writing batman for awhile for that to happen remember Winnie the pooh blood n honey
One of my most prized comic collecting moments was having Neal sign my copy of Batman 251 back in 2015.
Been listening to Back Issues for almost a decade now, and I gotta say that Sal’s comedic timing has never been more on point than it was for this episode! I was audibly laughing out loud for pretty much the entirety of this video 🤣
Another reason to love the Chris Nolan bat films, Batman starts out as a colorful theatrical superhero in that universe and his idle brings about the colorful villains. Just as the comic histories if colorful heroes gaining colorful villains in that time
Jerry Robinson and Bill Finger were the unsung heroes; Bob Kane made sure of that. He was even worse than Walt Disney. Carl Barks at least got credit for the Donald Duck comics after Walt kicked off. Bob Kane had his name on the comics until the new look Batman and Julius Schwartz. And that was only because Batman almost got cancelled in the 50s, it was that bad. The only people who got screwed worse than Finger and Robinson were Siegel and Shuster, basically all they got was the credit, the company got everything else. They tried for decades to get compensation and only got a fraction of it in settlement.
At least Siegel and Shuster got the credit and respect they deserved before their deaths. Granted, their family estates had their own troubles with DC, but still…
The way Sal retells these stories is just so damn funny!
All 3 stories are just Three Jokers. The epitome of Batman! (Very sarcastic)
Reading Tom King's Winning Card after watching this so many times made it even more entertaining. One of my favorite Back Issues for sure.
this is one of the best episodes of back issues 💀
Definitely do more episodes like this! This is one of my new favorites.
Jokers five way revenge!!! Aw yeah what a treat for us! Love some classic bats
The other issue with comic books that came out before and during WW2 is that many comics were recycled for making war bonds and items for troops. There was a bug push to recycle all your paper to help the war efforts so a lot of comics were destroyed because of this.
American comic books were actually used as ballast (weight to balance out ocean liners) and then sold in other countries for pennies. That's how Alan Moore got into comics
Both of these stories are in a volume from the 80s called _The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told._
Also in that volume is _The Laughing Fish_ which might be my favorite Joker story ever (a good one for next time yall do something like this)
...although _Going Sane_ is another contender for my favorite Joker story ever - a story that DeMatteis pitched to DC, who said no, so he re-worked it as a Spider-Man story and it became _Kraven's Last Hunt._ A few years later, DC was like, "still wanna do that Joker story?" and it finally got made.
That's another good one to talk about on this show.
Omg i loved this so much i hope we can maybe get a few more golden age stories down the road!!! And i was just cracking up the entire time another excellent and entertaining episode! The best channel on youtube for a reason.
I think that this might be my favorite episode of Comicpop.
I read the same collection trade as a kid in the early 90's. It was my introduction to so much Bat-lore. I borrowed it at least half a dozen times. Tried to check it out a couple years ago from nostalgia but it's since gone missing. Was that YOU, Sal?
I think the library accomplished its goal with that book
Denny O'Neil and Neal Addams will always be the best Batman duo of all time. Suck it Miller.
They’re both the guys that made Batman the darker figure people like so much, too.
The Daisy Gun ad made me cry laughing 😂😂😂
It's kinda cool that Sal and I had the exact same experience with the same book. It was my first experience with Batman and I read it religiously and never wanted to return it
Any time you guys cover an older comic, it's always a great ep! Avengers #1, 'This man this Monster' and now this are some of my favourites you've done over the years
I’d love more Golden-Age books on this show!
Even though I know how absurd the earliest Golden Age stuff is, I always forget how absurd the earliest Golden Age stuff is
It was definitely absurd, but the Silver Age stuff was just plan weird
You guys should cover more Stan Lee/Kirby, and golden era comics. The commentary is just funny as heck!!!
I have the Superman version of this book and absolutely love it!
Batman did get beaten up a lot during this period, got the shit kicked out of him in the early Ra's al-Ghul stories too. He felt a lot more vulnerable.
I would love if you guys did more origin issues, especially from the Golden Age
Sweet GB shirt, Sal. Fingers crossed that you guys will one day cover the IDW Ghostbusters.
big fan guys, superb as always
This is my favorite episode!
Old comic back issue episodes are always the best😂
Batman having a gun, and willing to see the criminals dead, makes more sense, if you consider the possibility of him being a ripoff of the Shadow.
Excellent video. I hope he covers golden age Superman one day, because those stories are wild.
I guess Bond figured... Force works
When people say they don't like the Golden Age, they've never read early Batman!
The time Batman shook his Silver Age softness.
This is one of the funniest episodes in a while.
Though the story might seem less than stellar today, the reason The Joker's Five Way Revenge is so highly regarded (besides the art) is because it was the first story to try to reestablish the Joker as someone you should be afraid of after his sillier portrayal during the Silver Age.
When an episode is so good you already relisten the next day
You guys are like the Top Gear of comic books, i hope you get a TV show
Golden age comics are great, if you can get past 1,000 words a page that are literally describing the image you can see.
They had no faiyh in their audience or their visual medium...one or the other.
I have been loving these classic story episodes!
I don’t know if I’m crazy but I swear that in that one panel of golden age joker that’s always shown everywhere in every video and blog about the golden age Batman stuff looks exactly like Steve Buscemi in clown make up 21:51
It's funny that Ethan accidentally does a woody woodpecker laugh 14:54
39:57 sal, we can not question the ways of the butler
I’m here for the disdain for golden age Alfred 40:28
Hey guys, can you do Batman vs the Mad Monk? It is a great story of a younger Batman vs Monk and is set before Batman: The Man Who Laughs which is the Joker story you guys have covered. So please?
Such a good format for back issues. Would love to see that for Superman or Fantastic Four or any range of characters
Sal, Lt. Bookman is coming for you.
This reminds of an episode of Batman the animated series. I’m sure the fans know
As someone who unabashedly loves Golden and Silver Age stuff, this was a real treat.
Oh man, I love the one where Batman reveals his identity to Joe Chill who promptly runs away, tells what just happened to his goon buddies who are so pissed at him for creating Batman that they murder him, and then they immediately lament that they killed him before asking who Batman is under the mask.
21:52 Joker looks like Steve Buscemi in that panel
40:26 Alan Grant brought him back in a Shadow of the Bat Zero Hour tie-in, just as shocking for 90s and modern readers
I've been so excited for this one guys! This just made my day 100x better! Hope y'all are good today and thanks for doing the one above all's work!
Bill Finger swiped the plot for the first Batman story from a Shadow pulp.
12:00 the Batman gaslighting is rediculous 😂 this is why I'm subscribed 😂
Hey Sal, I also had that Batman 30's to the 70's , however I got mine in the 1970's ( I'm kinda old) still have it although it's falling apart. Also one of the earliest Batman comics I got was the Joker's five way revenge, my six year old mind was blown because that's wasn't the Batman and Joker from the TV show!
Bob Kaine invented Batman much in the same way that the very first cavemen discovering they could sear meat over fire invented every modern cooking technique known to 5-star chefs in the 21st century
33:19 it’s so cool how the dark knight kinda homaged this moment when joker disguises himself as the honor guard officer to shoot the mayor.
I think I had the same experience as Sal growing up but with a big bound purple book called The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told, which had these same stories. I reread that thing so many times!
Love backissues on classic Dc and Marvel books. Please do more
Perfect! One story for each Joker
Accidentally watched this video for the whole hour while doing nitrous ballon until I figured out what was going on