The FBI has been having this type of technology for years and many more way before it's given to the public. Their new technology that's not known yet but being used to other purposes.
Ken shamrock was good.. definition of brute force.. older Ken could not beat young tito.. the old dog has to be able to defeat young dogs to prove/show greatness like Floyd or mj ;) Ken was good though in his heyday
During the first two years of Pancrase, both Funaki and Suzuki could beat anyone at will. Once injuries and Technique from their opponents caught up, this was no longer the case. Funaki worked Ken, while Ken shot on Funaki. Bas Rutten shared a similar sentiment.
@@na-ky8ou you know this was pre wwe days ken has said many times he never juiced until after joining wwe. And finding out how readily available they were. And that they were not tested for at the time by some organizations.
@@theProdigy02 c'mon man look at the physiques, and many of the fighters have commented that the promoters were eager to supply anabolics because it was better for publicity and optics if the fighters were better faster stronger. Makes sense.
7:17 Funaki probably contemplating the fact that three years earlier in the UWF(reborn) dojo he ragdolled and easily submitted Shamrock during Shamrock's 2nd tryout multiple times (as did Suzuki) and now Shamrock's skill in Japanese Catch as Catch Can combined with his unmatched athleticism has surpassed his. Must have felt like Dr. Frankenstein when his creation got out of his control LOL.
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid I liked watching some fights from fighting network rings which I got to know thanks to the Japanese game for PlayStation
@@kstxevolution9642 ground strikes were allowed. It's just that there was a gentlemen's agreement that there would be no striking on the ground. But if anyone strikes on the ground, it's consent that the other person can strike back.
@wobbly nostrils - Yeah Bas was a top notch fighter. He was heavy weight champ of the UFC and Pride and another one in Japan that I can't remember. "Pancrase" or something. I like both Bas and Ken. Frank Shamrock was great too. They all liked each other very much. They are great guys. True gentlemen.
At that time when the japanese young boys joined the dojo they weren't shown much offense at first during sparring they were expected to learn constant defense and blocking submissions before they started learning offense, In many cases learning offense from having it done to them as they practiced and learned defense first. As a result as you observed they developed very good defensive skills.
What exactly is the point of the flowers being given right before they’re about to fight? Since they just literally just throw them outside the ring after they presented to them.
Оба показали класс! Да, были наши такие времена! А сейчас смотрю на это, и думаю, не стоило оно того, здоровье у нас одно, и его не вернуть, а каждый пропущенный удар, или болевой приёмчик, без следа не остаётся, в итоге ты весь порванный, поломанный, и вряд ли долго проживёшь, вечная память Мухаммеду Алли! ПС. Молодёжь, занимайтесь спортом, который не портит никому здоровье!
Is this a points driven Match?? No punching, No real submission until the end? At one point it looks like he asks wayne to stop choking him or release the hold and he does??
@@mbfenner Not exactly. You can still hit on the ground but still maintain the no closed fists rule. It was a gentlemen's agreement that there would be no striking on the ground, leaving only grappling. But if anyone were to throw a legal strike on the ground, it's consent that the other person can also strike back.
I understand that Tito Ortiz beat up a old wash up shamrock but I don't understand how he could easily take shamrock down because Dan severns much bigger then Ortiz couldn't take shamrock down
Jimmy Likoelangi wayne shamrock is ken wayne shamrock. The same man. Frank Shamrock is his adopted brother. Both men were adopted by a man named Shamrock.
Shamrock's loud celebrating after the match was kind of funny, but it's actually frowned upon in real martial arts, as it's disrespectful to your opponent. But then again, Shamrock never cared about respecting his opponents.
solitarylonewolf Mixed martial arts are a sport, not a real martial art. They are not quite into all that stuff of respect and spiritual growing. The whole business tend to be two testosterone fueled young men in boxers who come to beat down each other to get the fame and the money. Some of them show classical respect and bow to their opponents, but it still not accurate to want them to behave like a bushido follower.
+AMK Actually I have experienced it, you ignorant jackass. Sportsmanship and humility is something you obviously know nothing about, and it is that to which I am referring. In martial arts, it's considered improper and inappropriate to celebrate after winning a point or a match. If you cannot even understand or acknowledge that, then don't bother commenting. You're just making a fool out of yourself.
Wayne great fighter that he is he Never lets go when the referee tells him too so he was always like this very likely he wants to inflict as much damage as possible even after his opponent surrenders
Look at all these guys during the steroid era of sports... I grew up with these guys and the big movie stars thinking it was what men actually looked like. It's amazing how much sleeker athletes look today. Obviously they still use steroids but its lesser so.
Actually Kenny wasn't "juiced", anyone who knew him at that time(which I did) knows how naturally developed he was. He was a gym rat and workout fanatic. There were other times later in his career that he was huge. Most guys just don't have that physique, therefore some people have to complain to feel better about themselves. He was a stud and pioneer in the sport. He deserves that credit.
His traps do not lie Call , Bay of the most androgen receptor In the body. Plus Japanese organizations do not care about steroids. For example the The pride contract said we do not test for steroids.
The quality of this video is great for the one filmed 25 years ago.
cause it was in Japan.
Japanese Quality!
The FBI has been having this type of technology for years and many more way before it's given to the public. Their new technology that's not known yet but being used to other purposes.
25 years ago was 1999 mate. not 1920. so, your point is moot
This was actually before UFC 1 even happened. Pancrase was light years ahead at this time.
@sneksnekitsasnek.
最初も最後も負けても最高の選手ですよ船木は。
His excitement is cause he beat one of the best. Funaki is the only MMA guy to beat both the Shamrocks and Bas Rutten.
One of the all time greats.
@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 mm..............,ni ni ni n
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@P Jeffery llm.0
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Shamrock was quality all the way power technique smart and aggressive ...you cant find them like him these days
Ken shamrock was good.. definition of brute force.. older Ken could not beat young tito.. the old dog has to be able to defeat young dogs to prove/show greatness like Floyd or mj ;) Ken was good though in his heyday
@@deekay7594 This is Wayne shamrock. Not ken.
@@mikelitorise6148 Wayne Shamrock = Ken Shamrock. They are the same person.
The way he under hooked his arm and kind of reversed the takedown at 6:43 was sick!
SEMAJ just before 6:43 yea I saw that too
Switched the weight and hips and used a good Whizzer which is he second thing a wrestler learns after he learns how to shoot.
During the first two years of Pancrase, both Funaki and Suzuki could beat anyone at will. Once injuries and Technique from their opponents caught up, this was no longer the case. Funaki worked Ken, while Ken shot on Funaki. Bas Rutten shared a similar sentiment.
Lol at Ken Shamrock celebrating after the match. ''That's right! That's right!" XD
Submitted by arm triangle
"Yes yes yes, I feel great I can do this!"
コメント欄が海外ばっかりでビックリ!
やっと世界が追いついたのか?
個人的には、MMAよりRINGS,PANCRASEの方が好きです!
インターは大笑いだけど、
今見ると
リングス、パンクラスは
相手を怪我させない前提で
試合をしてるので、今の
総合より
おじさんは楽しいですね。
Ken Shamrock was freakin legit in his prime
この試合は当時衝撃でした
2:24 is that how you are supposed to block a leg kick?
When skill level evens out, the one possessing more strength eventually wins.
Endurance is in that formula somewhere as well
@@adamsmith8660 Also does steroïds
@@na-ky8ou you know this was pre wwe days ken has said many times he never juiced until after joining wwe. And finding out how readily available they were. And that they were not tested for at the time by some organizations.
@@theProdigy02 c'mon man look at the physiques, and many of the fighters have commented that the promoters were eager to supply anabolics because it was better for publicity and optics if the fighters were better faster stronger.
Makes sense.
This is just fantastic!!
7:17
Funaki probably contemplating the fact that three years earlier in the UWF(reborn) dojo he ragdolled and easily submitted Shamrock during Shamrock's 2nd tryout multiple times (as did Suzuki) and now Shamrock's skill in Japanese Catch as Catch Can combined with his unmatched athleticism has surpassed his.
Must have felt like Dr. Frankenstein when his creation got out of his control LOL.
Yeah funaki did because,Shamrock had been going for over an hour and 30 minutes that's the only way that funaki could have submit him
Funaki had the same time to train and get stronger. Why didn't he get better with his opponents?
決まり手は肩固めですか?
ＮＫホールの旗揚げ、観戦行きましたよ!
いいですね。
会場広かったですか？
@@huminshou213 キャパは8000人くらいでしたね。今は取り壊されてないですよ
Quality of this film is amazing for its age...how about those U.F.O videos that the our military have...
0:58 sounds like the guy is saying shamrocks name riding past on a motorcycle.
What’s the joke made at 2:49 ? , the crowd starts laughing,, any Japanese people here wanna translate for me pls
was just curious, can they not throw a closed fist, is that illegal in these bouts? first time i have seen these
Yeah, illegal... no no... red card if close fist.... but to the body yeah it's allowed
@@moescredriver5486 thanks
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid I liked watching some fights from fighting network rings which I got to know thanks to the Japanese game for PlayStation
no closed fist to head and no ground strikes
@@kstxevolution9642 ground strikes were allowed. It's just that there was a gentlemen's agreement that there would be no striking on the ground. But if anyone strikes on the ground, it's consent that the other person can strike back.
one of the greatest fight I´ve ever seen
シャムロック
かっこええな～。
Liked and subscribed 7 years later (after posting lol)
Mike you've nearly got a great name.
@@mikespilligan1490 nearly 😔😔
Ken was a machine when he was at the top of his game. No better. Nowhere.
@wobbly nostrils - Its "Rutten". Yes Bas was great, but not like Ken. Did you ever watch their fights? ...
@wobbly nostrils - Yeah Bas was a top notch fighter. He was heavy weight champ of the UFC and Pride and another one in Japan that I can't remember. "Pancrase" or something. I like both Bas and Ken. Frank Shamrock was great too. They all liked each other very much. They are great guys. True gentlemen.
@wobbly nostrils Gotta remember that Bas never avenged his defeats to Ken. But it was those defeats that fuelled Bas to become the legend he is.
Historic match!
Funaki was the best. Way ahead of his time.
大事な旗揚げ戦で秒殺続きだったこの日、少しでも試合の時間を長引かせたかったと本人がおっしゃっていました。
藤原組からパンクラスと独立して、独自の格闘技を築いたのには驚いたなぁ！
後にバトラーツを創設する石川雄規もパンクラスに誘われてたんですよね。
Wayne e meu super Herói sou super fã 😍💪💪❤️❤️❤️🤜🤜
I wish they would bring pancrase fighting back
Is this guy name Wayne or Ken I'm confused
A same guy.
This is a shoot style professional wrestling much too!!
There is nothing like a big bouquet of flowers to make you feel super manly right before a big fight.
Yeah wtf was that? I don't get the purpose of that.
Flowers are how Roman's were greeted.... before death and after the match
@@turtledave77 called history
What was the comment at 2:49 that made everyone laugh?
"He debuted in 1989 in Royal's North Carolina-based Atlantic Coast Wrestling promotion under the ring name Wayne Shamrock"
Adorei que o Wayne ganhou sou super fã dele 💪💪💪💪💪❤️❤️❤️
Ken just was always the man
幻に終わった、橋本真也vsウェイン・ジャムロック見たかったなぁ
A lot of these Japanese fighters are very good at defense.
At that time when the japanese young boys joined the dojo they weren't shown much offense at first during sparring they were expected to learn constant defense and blocking submissions before they started learning offense, In many cases learning offense from having it done to them as they practiced and learned defense first.
As a result as you observed they developed very good defensive skills.
NKホールの旗揚げ戦、俺は仕事で観れなかったwww 船木VSシャムロックは、後世に残る名勝負やな。
Ken Shamrock, was great warrior
I knew that Ken had a brother Frank.i didnt know about his identical twin wayne.amazing
ホイスグレイシーと共に現UFC黎明期を
支えたアルティメットの英雄
ケン・ウェイン・シャムロック
パンクラッチオンのハイブリッドレスリング
修羅の男・船木誠勝
最期は肩固めで無歓声のときに
タップ音だけがこだまして決まるのも素晴らしい
What exactly is the point of the flowers being given right before they’re about to fight? Since they just literally just throw them outside the ring after they presented to them.
That's how death is celebrated and fighting to the death is brought by new flowers ,Roman's did this alot
What is with the pancake name?
Pancrase from the ancient Greek Pankration
Can we get more of this event type
Joel Ellsworth I would love the classic pancrase style in modern mma. But the majority would probably not accept it tbh.
@@majortom331 It would be a niche sport for certain demographic. Maybe the type of people who watch professional jujitsu or catch wrestling.
@@joelellsworth1991 Catch Wrestling is making a comeback. The community has been building up, and events organizing.
This is the most interesting fight I have seen in my life
I fell asleep twice
It's a work.
I thought his name was Ken Shamrock???????
Jimmy Jennings It is. Wayne is his middle name for some reason they use it as his first name in Japan.
この頃の船木、ホントにいい男だなあ(私そっちではありません)
SHAMROCK
2:34 HIGH FIVE LETS GO!
Is wayne, frank, and ken all the same person??
Frank is Ken (same as Wayne)'s brother .
So no punching on the ground or?
Also on my channel I make Soulless Humans Organic Portals videos and food plant teaching videos
how is this lows
Has anyone ever seen Wayne and Ken at the same place and time?
Didn't they have the twin special on wwf no cap bro they did ...
Yes
Shamrock was so juiced up... Funaki was the best fighter in Pancrase by a mile in those days, and everyone knew it.
Funaki was part owner of the company. Of he thought he'd make more money by losing he would.
Оба показали класс!
Да, были наши такие времена! А сейчас смотрю на это, и думаю, не стоило оно того, здоровье у нас одно, и его не вернуть, а каждый пропущенный удар, или болевой приёмчик, без следа не остаётся, в итоге ты весь порванный, поломанный, и вряд ли долго проживёшь, вечная память Мухаммеду Алли!
ПС. Молодёжь, занимайтесь спортом, который не портит никому здоровье!
I love old pancrease fights Bas was the best tho
Shamrock must have decided to play heal during this match. Celebrating like that is frowned upon in Japan.
I enjoy these more Then ufc.
Damn I didn’t know their was a third Shamrock. Wayne?? Looks just like Ken.
That was good old Ken
Why are they open palm slapping
Is this same Funaki that wrestled in the WWE and is now a member of the Japanese broadcast team on WWE PPV'S?
no not the same guy
You are thinking of Sho Funaki. This guy is Masakatsu Funaki.
デキと言う意見がありますが、無いです。
ただパンクラスが顔の張り合いをお互いに避けたのは修斗と違い基本的に団体内でのマッチメイク、他にもロープエスケープや無差別級のみレガース着用、それに伴うヒールホールドの禁止…修斗に遅れをとった原因は沢山あります。
Was Ken previously Wayne?
no. He was just promoted as that in Japan for some reason.
Middle-name.
There was a comedian popular in Japan at the time named Ken Shamrock so Ken was promoted under his middle name as Wayne Shamrock.
Like in Bloodsport he should have yelled
U.S.A!
U.S.A!
U.S.A!😂
Deep in an underground lab in an undisclosed location Shamrock clone 312 is completed.
The atmosphere from the crowd was electric
Is this a points driven Match?? No punching, No real submission until the end? At one point it looks like he asks wayne to stop choking him or release the hold and he does??
Something seems fake here. It's like shamrock isn't really trying and letting the guy escape from holds deliberately.
Imagine if ken had fought Tito in this prime ?
He would have choked his ass out, ken would of
Ken has admitted this was a work
Ken wayne shamrock 💪🏼😎👊🏼 #kenshamrock
Ol' Shamrock was built like a Greek Hercules statue
That must be ken shamrocks twin brother wayne we dont ever hear about
Wayne is his middle name
That first kick doe 👀
こういうプロレスを見せられると今の新日本プロレスは目も当てられないわ。あれをプロのレスリングとは呼ばないでほしいね。
Why dont they ground and pound? Against rules?
Back then it was against the rules. No strikes to the head with closed fists or elbows.
@@mbfenner Not exactly. You can still hit on the ground but still maintain the no closed fists rule.
It was a gentlemen's agreement that there would be no striking on the ground, leaving only grappling. But if anyone were to throw a legal strike on the ground, it's consent that the other person can also strike back.
I understand that Tito Ortiz beat up a old wash up shamrock but I don't understand how he could easily take shamrock down because Dan severns much bigger then Ortiz couldn't take shamrock down
ガチと興行の両立は難しい…
勝ち負けというより、ケガ人が増えてしまいますからね。
懐かしいｗ
When did he stop calling himself Wayne?
ＶＨＳ買いましたヽ(^。^)ノ
Wayne shamrock?? Is he like the von Erich cousin??
Ken Wayne Shamrock.
顔面パンチなんかは無いだけで、試合はガチでしょうか。
船木選手と比べてシャムロック選手はリーチが長いですね。
How many shamrock...??? Wayne shamrock,ken shamrock,frank shamrock... Any else???
Jimmy Likoelangi wayne shamrock is ken wayne shamrock. The same man. Frank Shamrock is his adopted brother. Both men were adopted by a man named Shamrock.
And me El Chapo Shamrock
Shamrock's loud celebrating after the match was kind of funny, but it's actually frowned upon in real martial arts, as it's disrespectful to your opponent. But then again, Shamrock never cared about respecting his opponents.
solitarylonewolf Think it was not martial arts, it was (real) pro wrestling.
Pancrase is both a hybrid style of mixed martial arts and a set of rules under which you can fight any way you want.
solitarylonewolf Mixed martial arts are a sport, not a real martial art. They are not quite into all that stuff of respect and spiritual growing. The whole business tend to be two testosterone fueled young men in boxers who come to beat down each other to get the fame and the money. Some of them show classical respect and bow to their opponents, but it still not accurate to want them to behave like a bushido follower.
+AMK Actually I have experienced it, you ignorant jackass. Sportsmanship and humility is something you obviously know nothing about, and it is that to which I am referring. In martial arts, it's considered improper and inappropriate to celebrate after winning a point or a match. If you cannot even understand or acknowledge that, then don't bother commenting. You're just making a fool out of yourself.
solitarylonewolf AMK Whoa, calm down, guys.
3:14 don't try this at home kids.
Wayne great fighter that he is he Never lets go when the referee tells him too so he was always like this very likely he wants to inflict as much damage as possible even after his opponent surrenders
Bon combat ☺😀😊
actualy this was good fight for that time
Look at all these guys during the steroid era of sports... I grew up with these guys and the big movie stars thinking it was what men actually looked like. It's amazing how much sleeker athletes look today. Obviously they still use steroids but its lesser so.
Esse cara era muito forte.
I think "Atomic Wedgie" should be a legal move in any martial art...
旗揚げ戦でエースが敗れるという衝撃！！
この時の船木はゲイにモテモテ
二人ともコスギ氏に言わせれば、“perfect body！”
Wayne Shamrock ☘️ Look 👀 Hella like Ken Shamrock.
Lol
Actually Kenny wasn't "juiced", anyone who knew him at that time(which I did) knows how naturally developed he was. He was a gym rat and workout fanatic. There were other times later in his career that he was huge. Most guys just don't have that physique, therefore some people have to complain to feel better about themselves. He was a stud and pioneer in the sport. He deserves that credit.
Indeed he is a legend, and also has great genetics....but even HE admitted to using steroids. plenty of times too.
His traps do not lie Call , Bay of the most androgen receptor In the body. Plus Japanese organizations do not care about steroids. For example the The pride contract said we do not test for steroids.
He used deca winstrol and t propionate
He was caught don’t be a jackass
Whatever man. He was juicing.
Love& War 😍
Ring looks so small