Part 8: Dream Garage Build - 42' Trusses Placed WITHOUT a Crane!
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One video in and subscribed. It's great to find people doing different things different ways and I enjoy the creativity.
The scissor lift with a load and fully extended
Unstable and dangerous as hell but it did the job.
Watch R R buildings do it!
I know someone who almost died doing the very same thing. He moved forward with no problem when he stopped the load swung, the lift tilted, and then fell throwing the operator onto the ground below. He is able to feed himself now if you wonder the extent of his injuries. Not worth the risk.
Reliable Truss and Components is the closest truss vendor to our project -- a 40-foot 5/12 span. Great to see they'll engineer, build, and deliver smaller jobs. Then it will be up to me to install (with help). The more I can divide this project into manageable pieces, the less it is costing us (there's way too much overhead and boat payment money involved when dealing with soup-to-nuts contractors).
Congrats on the successful back surgery! Glad to see you're up on your feet and pressing forward with this impressive project.
It's actually not a very good idea at all. With all those guys, you simply carry the truss inside the garage, put one end on one wall, then the other, let it hand upside down, slide it into place and lift it up and put it in place, bracing it with a couple 2 x 4's. I put up 32' ones by myself. They could have had them all up on a few hours.
Looks like the wind was kicking a little. Nice work. That lift setup is how I’m going to go. I’ve got 44 footers to set as soon as the snow starts melting. Thanks for the info. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yea, as if it wasn't sketchy enough to hang a 42' truss from a scissor lift the wind showed up to the party. Good luck with your build and be careful!
Gable end truss is also definitely designed structurally. It has a different bearing condition but it is still ran at the same criteria if not more than a typical main span truss
Well technically all framing of a building is structural in that respect. Even non load bearing walls need to hold sheetrock and often a door but you know what I mean. Gable ends don't need to structurally span anything, just support the roof.
@@Trialnerror Well it has to support lateral wind loads as well as outlookers
Glad to see you get the trusses in; I was afraid winter was going to put snow on the ground before you had a roof on there. The inspector will probably require you to put 3 strong backs on that end gable wall truss. That is the good thing about having it inspected when you do it yourself, the inspector will explain clearly to you what needs to be done to secure it properly. You will also probably need to put up the last 3-4 trusses on top of the wall before you place them because the lift will not fit between them again. if you can get the lifting beam to work on the long side you might can make it work for just the last 2 needed done by hand.
One other thing, don't extend a extension ladder like that against the wall like it is at 9:56. The quick ride down when the feet slide out from under it can be painful and life altering.
Good luck with getting it done.
Stand at the base of your extension ladder. You know the angle is right when with your toes touching the feet your arms fully extended in front of you hit the rails.
Too steep you fall off the back
Too shallow you slide down or off the wall you're leaning against.
Or ¼ distance out of height up.
Great job. Well planned out.
I know how you feel with the back problems I’ve been out of work since nov 2017 two failed back surgeries later. L4-l5 fusion and laminectomy. And l5-s1 fusion. Glad yours worked out
I always prefer a drop gable. Makes for much strong overhang. For the next delivery,place some dunage under trusses before dropping them (3or 4 pieces).
I'm so glad I saw this video.... that's a great idea!! I'm gonna be doing the same thing here (I hope) I'll probably follow much of what you did here. Great stuff.
That's cool man . Ya'll did a good job , and it looked windy there.
Great information. I'm getting ready to tackle the same thing for the first time. I think I can accomplish this. I will be renting a scissor lift for sure!
@@Trialnerror Wiil do, thx
Glad to hear your back surgery went well.
Thank you very much and thanks for watching!
Are trusses are being delivered tomorrow it is October 9th 2019 and this video is really help me out a lot I'm 56 years old and it's just been a little while since I've set trusses we put all our rat runs in so we're good to go on footing I really appreciate appreciate the video it's help me brush up on some stuff that I might have forgotten thank you good job guys
Nice work on the building. The wind looked nasty.
Keep going, looks very nice!
"Below me". LOL you share my sense of humor.
How can you use scissor lift on the rest of them, no swing room or space for lift?
Whatever you do kids, don't try this at work!
I've seen a similar method for erecting coverall buildings. Looks pretty good!
looking great stay bless n thankyou n keep it moving bra. hope back gets better
A crane would probably cost more but to have your machine rented, delivered and picked up is probably not cheap either (300$?). We had our 34' trusses delivered and boomed directly on the walls for free. You can drag them fairly easily and install them in place.
Glad the surgery went well.
Awesome idea
that's a damm good idea using the scissor lift
I dunno if it was a good idea but it got the job done about as cheap as possible lol. Thank you for watching!
Nice job great idea
Next time...install the trusses upside down and swing them upright in to place.
This. We did this all the time when I was framing, seems way easier, less risky, and no need for the scissor lift.
If your doing 24" oc you need to cut your spacers at 22.5" or else your spacing will be all wrong.
I am Lifting 24' trusses by hand, by myself, thankfully only 8' tall walls so its doable.
I'm an idiot and learned that the hard way. Best of luck with your build!
@Trialnerror finally got the last truss up an hour ago. Now, to get it dried in before the snow Flys and call it good until next spring. I am not a carpenter, mistakes where made but overall, Pretty happy with doing this large of a project, 100% on my own. Mistakes can be fixed.
Nice job but I would of used a 65' snorkel lift then you can set up in one spot and swing around to pick up your load and then swing back like a crain much faster.
Where do yo ulive that you can't shingle the roof over the Winter? Even if its cold, you can still spend an hour or two laying the shingles on the roof in the morning, return in the afternoon, a little more next week......just an observation .....nice garage though.
About the OSHA thing: I think you can just mean it figuratively that it's not the right equipment for the job which is always a good point. Remember, before OSHA was Oh sh**!
Looking GOOD!
You needed some one on a tag line too help Control the truss in the wind.
did two people stand the truss up first then move them to the scissor lift?going to have some delivered but they will have to be about 200 ft from the detatched garage.just wondering if ok to move 24 ft truss over to garage with 2 people
I'm not going to get to watch your whole video my boss called and the trust is going to be there 10 tomorrow between 10 and 11 it's going to be so cool I can't wait it's going to be fun for me I haven't done it in a long time all right well thank you for everything thank you for your time and making the video and I'm sure there's a lot of us out there that really appreciate it
Yes very useful this you tube
I count a scissor lift as a cheat. You made it sound like you where manning it up there.
I'll be placing trusses twice this summer on two builds. The first are only 16' low pitch trusses so I can easily do them myself. The second build is my 'temporary' wood shop which will have 24' scissors trusses with 1' overhangs. Still unsure how I will do those. I hope to do them by myself, but time will tell. We had to use a crane on our house trusses as they were 'room in attic' trusses and were insanely heavy -- especially the double ones.
It's a good feeling once that gable truss is connected to the strong-backs and fastened in place. It's the most dangerous one, and also the most critical in regards to placement. The place is looking real nice! I'm off to the next truss video...
Great looking building. However, one should not use a scissor lift. Too heavy with that weight. That is dangerous. A telehandler is a good alternative.
It's not the best way of doing it but it works if you don't mind putting you life in your own hands LMAO.
I can’t believe you did that without the walls being braced. Although you got the job done it was pretty sketchy. If you had a crane you could have built the entire gable wall as one unit and installed it
No need to brace the walls for topping it with trusses. There's no outward force when using a truss vs. a typical rafter style roof.
Great video. where did you buy 42' Trusses. I struggling to find them.
Just a local truss company. Most any lumber yard works with one or more truss builders that they can direct you to.
Awesome video, thanks! How long did it take to set all the trusses?
Thank you! It basically took us 2 day's but that's the time from the ground to in-place, metal tie downs secured and cross braced well beyond the minimum requirements. Could be done much faster but we we're really learning as we went and made plenty of mistakes along the way...hence the name of my channel LOL.
how much were they a peice
The lift should have started beeping and stopped you from doing that unless you bypassed a safety switch.
i like this channel haha just read the description
What was the cost of the trusses
Will only work in this situation which is rare. You can't have interior walls at all in this situation.
That's not rare for truss built buildings at all. In fact, interior walls are always the last to go in a truss building since they are not load bearing and have nothing to do with the actual structure.
Did you say... long and floppy just like me...
Hey guys let's see how much we can complicated this process 🤠
Hey guys, let's spend our worthless time making worthless comments on random UA-cam videos.
What was the reasoning for not wanting to use a crane ? Cut you down to 10 minutes per truss. Looks good though.
If anyone seen you pull a stupid stunt like that you’d still be in jail. Read the manual, the machine is not designed to lift materials. The maximum safe load on a AWP is 500 pounds. The operator is not wearing a full body harness with a retractable lanyard, I’d be interested to know if the operator has a AWP ticket. your lifting over peoples heads and your not using tag line, for 42’ you should have a tag on each end of the load. Just mentioning a stunt like this where I work they’d escort you to the gate!! As a property owner it is your responsibility to insure the health and safety of all peoples working on your site, no need to ask if you have workers compensation coverage in the event you did hurt someone working on the site.
I have a AWP ticket good for scissor and boom lifts to 330 feet, I have a rigging ticket, I work in the industry, I know what occupational health and safety laws state. It’s not just common sense it’s the law. Why are their laws for such things? People have died doing this kind of work.
How tall are your sidewalls?
12' 6"
Nive
At 1:21 you can clearly see a double plate lol. Who made these trusses again?
@@Trialnerror Sorry. A truss designer and in the industry for 25 years lol. I tend to notice things like that.
The same joe shmoe they hired for 14$an hour at the factory last year, just had a different social and addiction problem
LMAO, prob true.
I am not sure why you rented a scissor-lift when a portable crane rents for about the same. Were no cranes available in your area? What you did, worked for you but at a considerable risk of disaster to you & all of the nearby workers. That was a perfect example of how to completely cripple yourself after already having a bad back. I was cringing every time that you moved forward or turned while at full height. I sincerely hope that others aren't tempted to imitate what you did.
You are the reason they print "caution hot" on coffee cups.
What is your roof pitch?
It's 5/12 if I remember right.
How the hell did you do the last ones lol?
Left a hole big enough to work the lift up and down in and prestacked the last 5 or so up on top of the walls and leaned them against the existing garage.
Hey great job and i will be building a 64x40 this summer myself...question though...how tall are your walls? 14'? Im doing 16ft walls on mine... i ask due to the trusses being the only part thats going to be a pain and thats all im worried about...thanks in advance and hope you feel better
Woww thats it? Lol yours looks tall from the vid esp next to that 7 ft tall door...and you are correct and heating wise wont be such a big deal as itll be in central florida...however cooling will be a must but ill add central air, bathroom etc and yes you are right itll be expensive but itll be my shop as well and i will be doing the work myself with some help with walla trusses etc... doing it all myself but the slab and footing.. im sub contracting that as well like i think you did.. reason for 16ft walls is due to working on big rigs or semis... and fitting my camper that is 12 ft tall give or take as well.. id love atleat a 14' header if that makes sense.. did you do all.of the work yourself besides the slab and footing? And im going to do a monolyptic pour btw.. footing and slab all in one which should definitely save a lot of money being done at once.. and im from chicago...so i feel your pain on snow, cold weather changes etc etc..
@@Trialnerror yesssi can only imagine putting up the trusses and them being a pain and making sure everything is straight and level and what not... but at the same time do know it will be worth the headache if that makes sense? And yes i do have skills and have built my own house by my self minus help with roof to get it done on the weekend... but yes we love saving money and using our skillset to our advantage...plus you can do it how you want and you will know exactly how it was done... and yes i do stuff the right way as well.. so yes it will be fun and hectic but worth it.. can i ask you if you ever got quotes for the excavation stuff and how much were you qouted? And how much per yard of cement what psi did you do and how many inches thick is the slab?
@@Trialnerror holy hell...115k they qouted you? That is very high if you ask me lol i mean im not sure if its due to where you are or not no offense but that seems very outrageous.. im sorry man thats bs... i ask because i i got qouted 90 for my 64x40.. yes its all 6xs and what not just like yours because of the span and trusses and what not too...but damn thats a huge difference lol of course i dont have 90 laying around and never would pay that when i can be up to code just on my own and do mine for about 30 here..but thats really shopping around and getting doors and windows on a steal...lol i got my last set for free for example similar to your doors... they came off a new house and were 5 years old tho lol.. but yeah im going to be silly and just end up doing a residential door for time being...those commercial/rv doors are not cheap at all.. ill just reframe it later for the bigger door.. but yeah you are like me on being upfront and posting very specific details showing people that it can be done on your own and definitely love how you showed the material list/cost...no one does that so thank you i appreciate it! And did you use rebar as well? I know i will be.. its foundation is the start and i will do over kill witht that...6 inches all around for slab + footing and qouted for 1 foot deep at back half of garage(30'dx36'w) of the slab where the 3 lifts will be... 2' wide footings on each side of the garage hence the slab wont be a foot deep there itll be 3' deep at footings and that was still 13k lol im sure areas are different and prices go up and down a lot sadly.... im still shopping around tho man.. getting qoutes on materials every where i can now that i know what i need and what not but your garage is so awesome man hope i didnt confuse you...i explained what im doing in concrete kind of ass back wards lol
@@Trialnerror oh and i have been watching every episode on your build btw to answer your earlier question lol i subscribed as well im sure you know that tbough lol i wish you were closer man... not many around like us.. maybe to a point but not down to specifics that try to help everyone out...
@@Trialnerror and also im.kind of in a predictament now.. maybe im over thinking this but the county wants me to show my live and dead loads etc etc... did you have to do that for your county? And what size bottom and upper cords do you have? Do you know what they are rated for psf wise or load wise? And your walls are 2x6s correct? Just making sure cuz thats what im going to use.. sorry for all of the questions...but i guess i need the help here as my country wants it all documented..not asking for your help with the documentation or figuring loads but if you knoow what your trusses are rated for load wise and sizes of bottom and top cords as well as webbing id feel better just got my qoute for 31 attic room trusses, 31 common trusses, and 2 gable ends.. $5246.00
Looks like a Crane to me...
Should be 22.5 "
That's for the space between trusses not the on center spacing.
I caught that also. I see he replied with "O.C." distance but what he said was "all of those pcs. lined up were 24" spacers" and that means - to me, anyway - that the pcs were cut at 24" lengths. 'Trialerror' should have just admitted his error instead of defending it.
First thing i see is that double plate. Not good haha
Beats no plate at all I suppose lol.
Just get a crane. So much faster, safer, and easier
This is cheaper, allows me to work at my own pace and still got the job done. To each their own.
That's a hard no from me...
In reference to what? I don't think I asked a question...
OSHA is this safe? 😆😆😆
Yea, OSHA: Oppose Safety Habitually Administration ;)
I am sorry, but setting 42' trusses without a crane is just stupid. I am a journeyman carpenter that ran framing crews for years and so I know what I am talking about. With a crane you can set them in a couple of hours with two men. You paid the cost to have the lift on site probably for an entire day or more. You would have paid about a $125.00 per hour for about three hours for a crane. My bet is that it would cost you less to rent a crane, especially if you consider the time to set them. Even with your family setting them with you, you would have been safer, quicker and easier by just using a crane.
When I first started as a carpenter, we set all of our trusses by hand and so I have plenty experience setting trusses. I am not trying to be mean to you, I am just trying to give you some insight from a pro.
I bought the scissor lift and sold it for more than I paid for it. Yes a crane would have been easier but I wanted to do it myself and this wasn't just cheaper, it made money. Call it stupid if you want but it did the job and no one got hurt so can it still be called stupid if it works?
@@Trialnerror Hello, thank you for responding, that takes a lot of guts. You don't have to worry, I am not going to call you stupid. Considering that you made money on your scissor lift, you kind of paid yourself for your extra work.
Having said that, having a ton of experience setting large trusses both by hand and by crane, I can say that crane is by far the better choice. There just isn't any comparison.
Also, if you use a crane you can lay down four or five sheets at the corner where the house is strong and have the crane set your plywood bunk up on the roof. This saves you a ton of time and hard work of having to man-handle the plywood up onto the roof.
You are not alone., a lot of DIY people sometimes take do things the hard way. The main thing here is that you had the courage to tackle a very difficult job and you worked hard to make it happen. You deserve a ton of credit for that. Great job!
@@franklong6269 Well said Frank and I appreciate where you're coming from. Thanks for watching and for sharing your knowledge. As you can see I accurately named my channel if nothing else lol. Take care man!
Thats basically using a crane lol
Looks like you started from the wrong side and couldn't finish the job
Nope. I needed the other side to be left open because we only had access to the front. We stacked all the remaining trusses and leaned them up against the original part of the garage.
@@Trialnerror Good job and thanks for the video
Looks great but if this crew pulled that shit using the scissor lift to put the trusses up and not wearing fall protection I’d have kicked their asses of my property. That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
That's not a crew, that's my family doing some Trial N Error
Thirty minutes a truss? Sorry but that was the biggest waste of time and money I've seen on a build. You don't need a lift with all that manpower.
Why not just rent a telehandler? Smdh...
Because that cost money. This made money once resold and allowed me to finish off the inside and ceiling.
pardon me on my site that show over before it starts any argument and you over as well i go get reach and do myself if you no listen just sayin
Well said. I have no clue what your talking about but it was well said.
If you get caught by OSHA using a scissor lift for a crane you will be fined. This video is all the evidence you need to provide for the fines. Does anyone have training certifications for the lift. If they did, they should have known better. Safety Supervisor
OSHA can eat my ass!!!! HaHAHAHAHAAHHA. OMG. Could not have said it better myself. Project looks great.
@@Trialnerror It looked safe enough, for that size truss, just slow as hell. A boom truck operator (I'm one, been doing it over 20 years) could have done it easily in a couple hours, 20 to 400 bucks. With you on the OSHA thing, NOT APPLICABLE!
I've worked heavy construction for 27yrs and never seen OSHA. I honestly think they are a myth. Quit being a snowflake.
@@jaywagner13😂 that comment is gold
They usually show up if something happens...but if your working by a highway or in town..best to play it safe
thats cheating
No crane but you have a lift.
Click bate .
What part of "without crane" do you need help with?