Altra Torin Plush 4.5 Review | 2020
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Thanks for watching our preview of the new Altra Torin Plush 4.5. This shoe comes our June 1st but is available for preorder now on our website, shop.letsrunmo.... Right now promo code “shopsmall” will save you 10% and free shipping on this and any other product on our store.
Run Moore has carried every version of the Torin since they debuted in our shop. We are very excited to talk about some new updates on the Torin Plush 4.5.
Quick shoe notes:
1.1oz lighter
New upper with more stretch
Max cushioned neutral
28mm stack height
Extra padding to the heel cup
Zero drop
Foot shaped toe box
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For more info about the Torin Plush, I compare it to the New Escalante 2.5 in one of our latest Altra reviews here: ua-cam.com/video/fUx4UWBf0Qg/v-deo.html (around the 5 min mark :) )
The weight loss on the new one comes from shortening the laces 😂
LOL
True 😂
The laces are ridiculous!
Good to know the 4.0 won't be updated....I'm only just past 100 miles in mine and recently saw a review of someone who had passed 1000 miles and they were still holding up great.
We love the 4.0. Always risky making a shoe a two-year run in case it’s a dud. We’re perfectly happy having the torin 4.0 available for another year.
Great news, I recently bought my first pair of 4.0s on sale, I thought they were going out. They are for me my favorite of all shoes I have run in. I don't think I'd really need any other road shoe then the Torin 4.0, they are fast enough for a slow guy like me, they almost feel faster then my Escalante racer in a way as I feel I get more energy return while the racers are firmer and don't compress and spring back as much. And they almost feel more cushioned then my Paradigm 4.0s yet again because the Paradigms feel firmer and don't really compress that much. All in all a great shoe for me, only minor thing is their fit is a little on the snug side for me and I have had some mortons neuroma like sensations in my trouble foot, but that might also be sciatica as that have been an issue lately.
Totally sold me on these - thank you for being so open about the shoes online! I truly appreciate it and just purchased through your store! :)
I was on the verge of ordering some Topos until I watched your review. You addressed every problem I experience. I have the Altra Paradigm 4.5 and while they are great shoes, I think the extra stability enhancements from the guide rail and that little red hard wedge on the lateral edge of the sole are causing some discomfort on the lateral part of my feet. I also have a pair of Hoka Bondi 6 shoes that are great everywhere except for the cramped toe box. Thanks for the great review and explanation of the shoes qualities.
Thanks, Thom!
Now I need to try the Torin
The Topo's saved me when the Escalante 1.0 caused me to get a Morton's Neuroma and then the Paradigm didn't help; after 100 miles they hurt me too. Topos have never let me down. That said, my current go-to road shoe is the Torin 4.
Coincidentally, my first run in the Torin 4 was the same day this video came out and less than a month later I've got just under 200 miles on them. Mr. Moore is correct: it seems Altra may have finally got their sizing fixed and I may be mistaken but the toe-box is also a little smaller, which is great because Altra had a tendency to overdo it; now it's plenty spacious but not overly so. I LOVE the sock liner as it allows a nice snug fit around the midfoot without the need to over-tighten the laces, which I believe was my problem with the Escalante. This is my go-to shoe for the road when I'm going 10+ miles. I'm very interested in trying the Plush 4.5 and recommend you give it a try.
Hey Steve, thanks for your extensive reviews. Well, you were spot on with your Escalante 2.5 review, as in Altra did listen to feedback and make the top of the shoe less constrictive; I could not wear the 2.0s. However, regarding the tightness on top of the shoe, I have to disagree that Altra made the same requested adjustments on the Torin Plush 4.5. I was looking for something with even more cushioning since I recently developed tibialis posterior tendonitis (like plantar fascitis, but inflammation of a tendon instead of a ligament). I literally could not even get my foot into the shoe it was so constrictive. I'd caution your customers who are sensitive about upper shoe tightness and too narrow shoes about this one. I'm not sure why Altra keeps making models that elicit the same complaints from so many customers. But I appreciate the tip about the Escalante 2.5s -- they've been a lifesaver.
This is great news. Love my regular 4.0 and will try this 4.5 for sure.
Thanks for watching!
bought them and ran a marathon the same day after not digging the escalante for a few months. Amazing update
Thanks for watching!
What is the difference for you compared to the escalante? I want to return my 2.5 escalante as the sole is too narrow for my feet.
@@Crepitom the toe box is significantly wider, which is insane to me, while also being much more stable and the overall comfort and stability of the upper and the midsole of the shoe is much much thicker and provides long lasting comfort on long runs. id say the escalante is made for very fast long distance runners and sprinters who are under 180lbs and the the torin is made for someone who prioritizes both comfort and speed. i noticed no difference in speed in my torins so making the escalante less comfortable just seems pointless
RogerThat Thanks. Interesting that the toe box is wider. I don’t run long distance and am far below 180lbs, just want a comfy running shoe when I don’t want to bother with minimal shoes. Might consider
Right on brother! Can't wait until the release. Thanks for the review! 👍
Lighter and Plusher - ok you got my attention Altra - looking for a super long shoe .. looks well worth checking out. LOLZ @ Hair Cut
I got these and they are awesome, very happy, though I'm not sold on the knit that Altra seems to be using more and more of. Wish they would use a mesh.I feel the knit isn't great for ventilation and holds heat, but that's a minor complaint.
Great review!!! Thanks for the helpful info.
Thanks!
Thanks for the awesome content. Just pulled the trigger on these from your online store and can't wait to try them out.
Thank you! Hope you enjoy them
Nice review on the Torin Plush. I currently use the Torin 4.0 in my rotation of running shoes, but I’d really like to try the Plush version. I know that the Brooks Glycerin 18 has increased the heal & ankle collar with more padding over the ‘17’ version, therefore increasing the retention of heat during long runs, so that is one of the main reasons I hesitate to upgrade from my favorite ‘17’ to the ‘18’. So the same concern from my Torin 4.0 to the Plush, but I also love the cushiness of these. So more food for thought for getting the Torin Plush. I’m usually willing to try new fittings & versions of my current favorites.
I feel you on that. Hard to say if the added padding in the heel will make for a hotter ride but it is a fair concern.
Thank you so much! It is an excellent review!
Amazing reviews, everything I wanted to know!
Thanks for the in depth review! Love the look of the Plush 4.5 and sounds like it performs as well as it looks. Keep up the great work!
Would the Torin 4.5 Plush be good for a 61 year old former football lineman-cum-Crossfitter who is a heavy foot runner? I’m down to 208lbs these days and top 200 in world, but running is my Achilles heel. I will never do more than 5 miles at a time. Was thinking about one of the shoes with a carbon plate to help with energy conservation (new ASICS Metaracer) to add fun to run. I have a wide foot and love Altra’s as a result. Any advice much appreciated. Thank you for the thoughtful review.
They are great Michael
I've got a hot foot. How's the breathability on this year's plush model? I haven't had a great experience with the paradigm 4.0's mainly because that arch area didn't breath well for me ultimately giving me bad chafing, and I'm hoping breathability wise the 4.5 plush will be comparable to the Escalante 1.5 or even the Torin 4.0 mesh. What do you think? As breathable as those two models?
Probably closer to the standard Torin 4 than the Escalante. Our shop manager ran a ton in the Escalante 1.5 and she felt that was a hot shoe for her and not so much with the Torin 4. I did not like the lack of breathability in the Plush 4 but this seems to be a little better there.
@@RunMoore thank you! Lastly, what men's colorways can we expect on release?
@@brianmagkasi There are four colors coming out right away. On the mens there is that nice dark red I am holding, a light grey, black and a brightish blue. The grey is nice but I really like that red one.
Can’t decide wether I should go with this or the escalate 2.5.
Mainly looking for a daily trainer / easy day long run shoe.
But I also want to strengthen my feet.
So I’m not sure if I should go with the Torin 4.5 plush and make my easy days easier.
Or get the escalante 2.5 since I will be using it mainly as a daily trainer for running.
Help me please.
Is the 4.5 a littler wider? I have a weird thing in by big toe and the 4.0 almost worked for me but not quite.
I measured them up against a 4.0 and the width looks and feel is the same. I walked around with each on my foot too and the seemed to fit me the same with just a little more stretch in the upper in the 4.5.
Run Moore How does the width compare to the Altra Superior 4-trail running shoe?
@@aznluckeegirl05 I just lined up mine to a Superior and they look dead on exact in width. The Plush has more cushion on the inside so it may feel a tad snugger but I would say they are damn near the same.
Tried Altra Provision previously, suffered from shin splints while in the shoe. It was thought the shin splints resulted from the zero drop platform. Have you seen this to be the case when trying to transition to zero drop? Thanks love your reviews!
We actually like trying folks in zero drop options with shin splints. Sometimes shin splints are from over striding and whacking the heel too much so the low drop can encourage a midfoot landing and help with the impact. Not always the case but we like to try that as an option and we have had good luck. There are always a lot of other causes for shin splints like big changes to the training routine, structure of the shoe or even the terrain you are running. There are also those who just don't take to the zero drop and it changes their form too much and that can cause some issues like shin splits. Short answer is we like pulling Altras for shin splints but it's not necessarily a one shoe helps/causes any particular injury in my opinion.
Switching to Altra for the first time and just received the Escalante 2.5 and the Torin 4.5 Plush.
The Escalante seems to fit perfectly and feels very comfortable, and the Torin Plush does not fit at all. There somehow seems to be both excess material on the inside, along the big toe while it's also extremely tight around the foot just behind the toes, so the widest point across the foot. The space is there, it's just that the foot is not in the right part of the shoe to use that space it seems - but the length of the shoe is correct. If I tried a smaller size to put my foot into that space, my toes would be hitting the front of the shoe. It just seems like the shape of this shoe is just slightly off.
new subscriber!
I purchased a pair of the torin plush 4.0 and noticed an uncomfortable pressure in the forefront of the shoe created by the webbing under the lacing. It created pressure and made the shoes unwearable for an extendeed length of time. There are several comments on the Altra site attesting to this issue. Do you know if Altra has addressed it for the 4.5? thanks
Thanks for the subscription! There is no webbing on this 4.5. It's gone and it's not a big padded tongue on this model so this may help add some depth to the shoe if that extra add on stuff was bugging you.
@@RunMoore thanks
I'm a 12 in the original escalante which fit me perfect and haven't had Altra's since those. Are these smaller fitting than the original Escalante's ? Should I go up a half size to 12.5 ?
Hi - I've been on the verge of buying these but am unsure of size. I have a pair of Superior 4 in size 12 and Timp Trail in 12.5. Any help would be appreciated. I've spent hours researching and came up with no answers. Thanks!
You mentioned the guide rail and the higher arch. I am wearing the torin 4.0 regular presently, and they have essentially no arch, which is what I need. I have "collapsing arches", great fun there, so a stiff arch means 1.5 inch blisters in my arches. So is this a major difference from the 4.0 regulars ? This is for ultra distances, so regular long runs of 20+.
Thanks for checking out the review and I would say that the arch and I would say the arches are very comparable from the standard Torins to the Plushes. Hope this helps.
Torin 4 and 4 plush had different interiors. The regular had a piece of cloth covering the side walls and the plush left the "straps" exposed....which rubbed.
Did they cover the exposed straps in the 4.5 ?
Thanks for checking out our review. The 4.5 does not have the sock liner that the Torin 4.0 has but they have the have eliminated the straps from the Plush 4.0 to the 4.5 that may have caused you irritation. Hope this helps.
Great review. I used to get plantar fasciitis but have used the Altra provision 3.0 and 3.5 with success for both running and tennis. Would this Torin Plush provide as much side-to-side, stop-and-start stability as the Provision when darting around on the tennis court? I'm a little nervous about the new changes made to the Provision 4.0...
Hi thank you for checking out the review. While the Plush doesn't have all the stability features that the Provision has it is still zero drop is very balanced for the side to side motions for tennis. Hope this helps.
Great review! I liked that you described best fit for different type of runners. I run generally short distances (5-10k) with a forefoot strike. I understand that zero-low drop is best for this type or running. I also have been having a sensitive meniscus and i thought some cushioning would alleviate the stress there. It seems like the Torin Plush 4.5 would fit the bill, but would be curious to know whether you would recommend a different shoe. Thanks!
Thanks for checking out our review. The Plush certainly sounds like a great option for you. The only thing I would question is if you may need some extra stability for your meniscus in which case I would recommend checking out the Paradigm from Altra as well. I'll have a review up for the new Paradigm in the next few weeks. Hope this helps.
Nice thanks
Hi .
Im looking to buy a pair of lone peak 3.0 do you carry it?
Size 12
Is the upper of the Torin Plush 4.5 the same basic material as the Paradigm 4.5?
No it feels different than the paradigm. With the toe ventilation in the paradigm it felt a little cooler but this one feels softer overall and more stretch to it. Hope that helps without being too confusing.
Trying to decide between these and the Viho for everyday wear. Which one would be better? I’m talking about running errands, walking the dog etc. Thanks!
Hi thanks for checking out the review. I would lean you towards the Viho for more everyday tasks. The Viho is 2 mm lower than the Plush in cushion but still provide enough support for walking the dog and running errands. I also think the Viho will be a little more durable. I have an employee who has used her Viho for just about everything and loves them. Hope this helps.
why are you looking over my left shoulder tho hahah
One take - nice!
One take and I managed not to swear!
@@RunMoore a little useful swearing is no big deal! ;)
Working through my 3rd pair of 4.0 non-plush's and am almost coming due for a new pair- how do these compare to that shoe? Know this one lacks the sock liner and adds a bit in the stack, but at the same weight. Are there other tradeoffs?
Thanks for checking out the review. The biggest differences are the missing sock liner and the extra cushion. We have had great feedback on the new plush so far. I would say if you are looking to try something different and looking for some more cushion I think this a great option.
With regard to proper sizing, I have been wearing Altra Torins since the 2.0. Usually, I need to go a 1/2 size up. With the 4.0 Plush, I ordered it a 1/2 size up and it was very big on me, almost too big, yet the Torin 4.0 (regular) fit well with the 1/2 size up. For this 4.5 plush, which do you recommend normal sizing or 1/2 size up? Thanks in advance.
Hi thanks for checking out the review. So the 4.5 is made from the same mold as the 4.0 so if you went up a 1/2 size and it was big in the 4.0, it would be big in the 4.5 as well so I would recommend normal sizing. Hope this helps.
hello first thank you for your review thanks to you i purchase today the plush today and i would like to ask you... i used to run with paradigma 4.5 for marathon distance and looking for more dynamic shoes for 10 kms or interval run ... do you think is right or recommended the plush for that use? thank you in advance tomorrow i will test them for a easy 14/kms
Thank you for checking out our review. I think the plush is perfect for the marathon distance. The Plush is the less stable version of the Paradigm essentially.
UPDATE: I got my pair of Torin 4.5 Plush shoes today and I am pretty disappointed. They are the proper size but they are much too snug overall with very little cushion in the sole. My Paradigm 4.5s have a much softer feel and have a more comfortable toebox. I still experienced the same pressure on the lateral side of my left foot but also felt a lot more pressure along the entire length of my foot from heel to toe especially in the arches. There was so much pressure in the left arch it almost felt like I was getting a cramp. I walked 1.5 miles and then switched back to the Paradigm 4.5s for an accurate comparison and it was a huge improvement when I changed shoes. In fact, I have a pair of Altra Graftons that were more comfortable right out of the box. they have a very low stack height and are more of a trail shoe but are still more comfortable. I read the recent reviews at the Altra site and one reviewer said it took about 6 miles for the knit on his to stretch to the point it started feeling comfortable around his toes. I'm not sure the rest of my feet would survive that long.
Even though Altra offers a 30 day no questions asked return policy if you buy directly from them, I would certainly recommend only buying these from a qualified shoe store, such as Lets Run More, to make sure you are getting the proper fit and the shoe experience you desire before walking out of the store.
Great review. Subbed
So, why would I spend $20 more for 2mm's for foam and looks like a nicer upper. Has anyone compared the two?
I appreciate the review. I previously had the torin 4 plush but had to return to LRS because the toe box height where the overlay/material for lacing started was too low on my feet. Will the 4.5 cause the same issue?
Same here on torin 4 plush. Dug into a bunion I never knew I had. I loved everything else about them but had to send them back. Very curious if they fixed that. Seen others complaining about it, on the altra site comments.
Hi Thank you for checking out the review. They did make an upper change from the 4.0 to the 4.5 that is much flexible and breathable. I find it to be much nicer than the 4.0. Hope this helps.
I’ve been running in the Escalante Racer for a good while now (I have a couple pairs). I love the shoe and how it fits. I am looking for a shoe that I can take out when my feet feel a little more beat up or for runs in the 12-20 mile range. Is this a shoe you’d recommend for such?
Thanks for checking out the review. The Plush is a great shoe, however, if you are coming from the Escalante Racer I would be more inclined to recommend the standard Torin 4.0. The Torin 4.0 is a little firmer and more bouncy, but still provides you plenty of cushion for the longer runs. We have an employee that was a very loyal Escalante wearer and switched to the Torin when his mileage ramped up for college and loves them. Hope this helps.
Kevin, Thanks for asking this question. I too am a huge lover of the Escalante Racer, not so much the regular version. Like you I am looking for an Escalante Racer’ish upper mated to a sole that is better suited to the longer and slower days of training.
I got a pair today! 😊
If I am a neutral runner with a low arch, this shoe would be good for me? I tend to have pain on my plantar fasciitis
If you have a lower arch but are still running neutral. This shoe would be a great option, we often fit people in Altras who suffer from plantar because they have a great arch profile to them. Hope this helps.
hi, any info, why Altra still not have regular 4.5 version....only plush....
The Torin 4.0 was the last version of the standard Torin. The Plush will be adopting its name as the Torin 5.0 in May when that model is released.
@@RunMoore i understand... i mean why Altra broke their rule....typically they do every year 0,5 version by updating upper on their Torins.....this tradition was for few years,,
Nice stache
Does it stretch like the escalante on top? And does it stretch more than the new paradigm 4.5?
It's got some give but not as much as the older Escalante 1 or 1.5's. I would say it's probably in line with the Paradigm stretch. I think it's got some give, more than last Plush for sure, but not so much that if you feel super snug out of the box you'll stretch it out.
Hello i have Torin 4.0 they are nice and but i like the Duo.. For trail what you recomended?
Hi Richard - The timp is nice and is like their trail Torin. The Olympus is probably their closest Duo trail. The new Olympus is coming later this summer and looks great but the current version has been very popular as well for a max cushion Altra trail shoe.
Will try these for my 50 mile run coming up.
How’d it go? I’m just now watching this video since I’m suddenly in the market for something like this.
@@Mysterios0 I love them. They are now my all time fav. I will get another pair after these are worn out.
Hi! I try to preorder but I live in France... 😰 Do you know if it's possible for me to preorder anywhere?
Sadly, I don't know of any place that would. I wish I could because we have never shipped to France! Thanks for watching and I hope you can track down a pair.
Thanks for this excellent review. I have Torin 2.5 in size 12.5 and fit perfect. What size do you think I would need in this shoe? Thank you.
I feel like I was the same size in my Torin 2.5's as I am in these Plush. I think you should be fine staying with a 12.5. I don't have my old ones anymore but I think they fit me pretty true like these do.
@@RunMoore Thank you!
I just bought a pair specifically for long runs 3 hour plus, is this a shoe u recommend
This is a max cushion shoe, so yes, it would be good for your long runs.
How are you guys finding the midsole durability these days? I found with the earlier Altras that they would flatten out "really" quickly. I'm 6 3" and 190lbs so not on the light side!
Sizing and durability have always been the bugaboo for Altra (and a few other brands specifically one that rhymes with Moka). I will say since our early days with Altra things seems to last longer. Someone actually commented on here they have a friend who hit 1000 on the Torin 4. My Timp 1.5's are my favorite trail shoe. My current pair have hundreds of miles on it and going strong. A lot of time the combo of the right shoe for right body type is key. At your size, something like the Plush should give you a better chance for longer and happier miles than say the Provision.
@@RunMoore Thanks for the reply. I've got the Timp 1.5 and find them fantastic for easy trail terrain. Reckon I'm going to give the 4.5's a bash, looking for a pillowy road ride. The "Mokas" I have tried on are just way too narrow on the forefoot. I'd buy them from you but I'm in the UK :) PS: Your store looks mint!
I always Replaced the insole with a Sof Sole Airr insole that I buy in finish line life time warranty are the best
Thanks for the great content. Just a question on sizing. My current sizes:
Escalante 1/1.5 - Mens Size 12
Escalante Racer - Mens 11.5
Clifton 6 - Mens 12
Could you comment if i should go with a mens size 12 in these?
jlamn - I normally wear a size 10 in most running shoes, however, when I went & actually tried the Torin 4, I needed to go up 1/2 size to 10.5. Just know that the sizes indicated on the shoe boxes are a constantly moving target; no two brands are exactly the same. This is why it’s so important to go to your local running shoe store (not big box store) and let them fit you properly. You should have between 1/2 thumbnail to full thumbnail distance between your longest toe and the inside edge of the end of the shoe. If your toe(s) literally touches the end of the shoe inside, you have too small of shoe on and no room to let your feet swell during running or walking. Hope this helps.
@@rusty3831 thanks for the response! So does the torin 4 sizing run the same as the 4.5 plush? I tried the torin 4 non plush version in a size 13 and it was too big. I understand if it's difficult to answer.
jlamn - I would think they would be the same considering the ‘Plush’ is just that. However, I could be wrong. My local running store only sells the Torin 4.0 and no Torin Plush.
I have a size 9.5 in Escalante 1, 1.5 and Torin 4. I really should have got a 10 in the Torin 4 because there is not enough movement around the toe box. When Altra put strips of rubber as a toe guard in the upper I will always get a 10. The Torin 4.5 looks like a beefed up Escalante which I’m super keen to get my hands on. A 9.5 might be ok because of the upper
I have found the Torin and Torin Plush and Plush 4.5 to be cut similar in length. The new Escalante 2 is cut long for a lot of people and I believe the Racer is based off the Escalante 2.0 model so it would make sense that you sized down in the racer. If you are regularly a 12 in most running shoes, I would recommend a 12 in the Plush 4.5. Hope this helps.
How do these compare to the Paradigm 5?
While they are considered max cushion like the Paradigm 5, this is a neutral shoe and the Paradigm is a stability shoe.
too narrow?
How long would it take for me to transition from 5mm to zero drop? 2-3 weeks?
0 weeks. Do in once a week the first week, 2 times the second... etc. slowly until you feel no achilles or calf strain
Can these be shipped to Canada or US only?
We can ship to Canada but it would not qualify for free shipping. If you contact us with your shipping address we can quote you a price to get these to you.
I the price point the same for the plush?
I totally forgot to mention the price on this. It went up five dollars to $140. That’s what I get for rambling without notes.
Would this shoe be good for heel spurs?
Thanks for checking out the review. We find this shoe is a great option for those with heel spurs or plantar facisitis.
We are now june 9th. Is it available ?
Hi yes, these are available now on our website.
What about a flat footed runner? Would torin be good?
Perfect for that. I'm African-American and have 100% flat feet. These carry me through marathons with zero discomfort
Technically this shoe can be used for a flat footed person if they tend to not overpronate. If you are a typical flat footed runner who requires support than this may not provide enough structure. It's a neutral shoe so whatever you are naturally doing pronation-wise this won't adjust it.
How is breathability on the 4.5 plush vs. the 4 regular? I sweat like a pig 🤷♂️🥵 hate it when I feel like I ran through a puddle at mile three. 😕
Thank you for your time and recommendations 🙂
I would say the 4.5 plush is more breathable than the regular Torin 4.
@@RunMoore Thank you
Much appreciated
99% awesome shoes, but the 1% makes it unwearable for long runs. THe bottom of the shoelace overlay where it meets the toe box creases downwards when shoe flexes on toe off. Every step I take the crease bends downwards and rubs on the top of my feet. It is annoying and will create a blister. Wanted to love this shoes for my next marathon.
What’s a good show for people with flat feet
Any shoe with extra added arch support is good for people with flat feet. Three good options would be the New Balance 860, the Brooks Beast, and the Hoka Gaviota.
Is this still overly squishy as the 4?
Yes, this shoe still holds a high level of cushion just as in the earlier models.
Which one is wider?
Thanks for watching our review. What shoe are you comparing the Plush too on width?
@@RunMoore altra torin 4.0 regular , torin plush , torin plush 4.5 . Basically I m looking for a wide shoe from Altra . What you suggesting me ?
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