You gotta love the Car Wizard..... humble, honest, shy mechanic, now a serial extrovert and subject of Tyler's jokes! Goes from working on mom-and-pop rides to having Bentleys, Porsches, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and rare oddities double stacked in his shop!!
Hoovie has helped The Car Wizard succeed. Now that everyone knows how honest the shop is, the business is booming. An additional building next door. Big boats etc. Everyone wins.
@@2W3X4YZ5 Agree with you. In Australia during the middle of the last century there were many Quick Service centre franchises. But the State Automotive Industry Association had a numbered Registration Scheme for fully qualified Mechanics. Nowadays anyone working in a Garage conducting an oil change service is called a Mechanic. The complex design of Computer controlled automobiles is beyond the education level of Old School Mechanics, that is why the job title needs to be changed to clarify the skill level of the service provider. I am not belittling the experience required to carry out routine maintenance. I am saying that some Mechanics need to refresh their basic training. Phil.
There should also be a side moulding that runs from just behind the front wheel well straight through to the back of the quarter panel. Unlike other GM brands, it is stainless steel with a body colour rubber insert. The Brougham badges should be just below that molding.
my favorite videos on the Hoovies channel are the ones with Car Wizard in them. my favorite videos on the Car Wizard channel are the ones with Hoovie in them
I have a client who knows very little about cars, but likes the looks of certain models, and keeps buying them. Almost every car he buys, is a disaster, with multiple problems, that he wants repaired. I've pleaded with him to call us before he buys one, so we can tell if it's a good deal or one to stay away from, but to no avail. I guess it's the interesting people that makes life interesting for the rest of us.
He buys these cars for the entertainment value. What would be the point of buying a 2 year old Camry with full service docs and clean Carfax? "Well, I just drove this car over to the my mechanic who inspected it, and there's nothing wrong with it. Dealer even changed the all the fluids and filters before I drove it off the lot." End of video. {Yawn. Unsubscribe.} These vids are entertaining, and prove that you ain't getting a cheap used car that's actually usable as a daily driver unless you get it from your grandma. If you're not handy, and don't have the time, avoid cheap used cars. Also most people selling junkers are strictly delusional. They demand top dollar for cars that are really worth no more than the biscuits in the cat.
Thats the hydraulic compensator “spring”. It pivots in the middle of the rear axle in order to the level of the both sides of the suspension by helping distributing pressure from both shock absorbers. It’s sort of a additional dampening device not to be mixed with a self leveling suspension system
@@boblacks945 That is why you always need a Mercedes Benz specialist to check 70-80's Mercedes before you buy. It worked like an expensive version of the compensator spring kit sold for VW Beetles in the 1960s. I had both and if you were cornering at ten-tenths, the swing axel's on both vehicles would allow the rear wheel to tuck up inside of the wheel arch, which left you tippy-toeing through twisty corners. But you were driving on the absolute limit of adhesion. FUN. Phil.
It IS a levelling device. Boge hydraulic levelling strut. Same was used in Range Rover from -70 When car is moving, this thing is pumping it self to certain level, and keeping it there. In Range Rover there is 700 kg load bering in rear, and this keeps it level
@@phillipj.moodie3077 In 1994 l drove my 300SEL 6.3 in a 2000km rally. Taking foot off the accelerator ,at speed, would cause the rear wheels to 'fold under" (lots of positive camber) providing a breathtaking experience trying ti keep the beast under control.. It would get even more hairy when you needed to brake at the same time. Fun indeed 😆
The weird rear suspension part is called "Boge Bein" with 108 enthusiasts. It is actually original in all 108s. The Spring Hoovie is talking about is the cheap conversion part which comes from the w110/111 series (Heckflosse), which is considerably cheaper than the Boge Bein. The Boge Bein used to cost more than 1000€, don't know what they cost right now or if you can get any at all now. It is for automatic ride height levelling. The axle is a "Pendelachse"= pendulum axle, similar in construction in VW Beetles and Porsche 356. Something to mimic independent rear suspension. My 108 days were 10 yrs ago. Toooo many maintenance costs but great fun and reliable for daily use.
The Hydrodynamic compensator you and the Wizard were looking at is completely stock. It keeps the rear level with a load in the trunk. It does the same thing as the spring with the addition of level control. That is all. The Classic center in Irvine, CA sells rebuilt units. You send them yours and they send you one that has been rebuilt. Some people just swap in a coil spring when the hydraulic strut has worn out.
When you first start shaving once, it becomes routine. I guess he's plagued with heavy regrowth, or he *will* be from now on. When Tyler and Tavarish do their little Manscaped ads, it sounds so..... Hilariously wrong. Like way too much information. But I guess using a shaving tool beats using those wax tear-offs "down there". "Stretchy testies syndrome" is probably quite uncomfortable. And all this said with a straight face.
The same sign is hanging in my brother-in-laws customer waiting room at his shop. The shop specializes in Imports, especially high-end German vehicles and the shop has been in his family since 1957.
Free Tip: That regulator block from the Bentley (it's a standard Citroën XM and Xantia part) are very good for building a sphere tester. Connect an old pump and install a pressure meter and your done. You will also need a short "suckhose" and an oil reservoir (oil bottle), a 12mm wrench for the bypass screw and some ordinary brake pipes (coppernickel is fine). You want that Mr. Wizard if you are dealing with old Bentley/RR's with Citroën hydraulics. And lets face it. It's only a matter of time before Hoovie buys an old Citroën which I of course is waiting for and supports 100%. And I got you all covered if needed. Worked on them for 30 years and has all the official workshop manuals, and the hydraulics are completly stuck in my head. It takes one minute to diagnose a sphere. It's all about it's gas pressure. And if you really want to go to town, you can fill them yourself. You need a hydrogen bottle and some home made tools (search youtube).
Wonder if he will be able to get hold of XM and Xantia parts in the US, These cars are rare today even her in europe and parts not necessarily easy to get hold of anymore. On the other hand he could take Ms wizard on a vacation to france and do some shopping :)
Also the old sphere is grey because that's what Citroën OEM spheres were like in 2003 when the car was new. They changed their colour in '99 (?) to make the spheres look a bit more modern, but then reverted them back to their classic green colour about ten years ago I think. Both of these spheres seem OEM to me, as they're both Citroën branded. None of the aftermarket spheres I've seen had the Citroën logo on them
@@SterkeYerke5555 IIRC the first C5 that got LDS and 350cc spheres was the first grey ones. But some of the last of the Xantias actually was sold with the same C5 spheres in the rear. And for some reason they decided that SOME of the "classic" spheres needed a new color. Then there were the "three half drilled holes on the top-spheres" which had wastly improved membrande life. But even they also came some in green, some in grey. The "three hole spheres" can actually run for decades without loosing any pressure at all. But when they finally go, it is a bit more spectacular. In those cases you are glad for that loose fit filler cap. I have blown a fully pressurised sphere on a DS once. And it has a metal reservoir with screwed on filler cap with a small breather hole. Yep, it got bloated like a football.
@@leonarddaneman810 If there is one thing in the car industry that no one could do better, it was the Citroën suspension. Released in 1954 and still is the best by far. The DS makes speed bumps dissapear completely. And the Xantia Activa from 1995 was a medium sized hatchback that outperformed the McLaren 675LT in the corners. And that´s particularly interresting because McLaren with their "revolutionary" suspension actually was a rip-off of the system in that old hatchback. Pretty good for a 67 year old concept.
In the matrix according to Wizard: - you never really know a leak until you've tasted it - you never really know a service record until you've smelled it
Seeing the Wizard taste stuff felt like vindication for all the times I was called crazy when working on my own stuff. I know smell is important too, but if I see a dark puddle under my car I can't really reach to smell it, but I can usually pick a drop up and taste if it's oil, anti-freeze, hydraulic or fuel. My favorite is the pink kind of anti-freeze, that one's kind of sweet-tasting.
Given he likes floaty cars, and he likes European cars, I'm surprised Hoovie hasn't yet bought the ultimate float mobile: the Citroën DS. Nothing's cooler than a DS - he could be a French assassin!
I agree about the DS, although the last bit is the wrong way round. Escape Assassins on four shot out tyres like Charles De Gaulle did in 1962. From then on he insisted that his Presidential car was a DS.
Hello guys, the contraption on the rear axle operates like a self leveling system, the more you load the back, the stiffer it pumps up to keep the car level. Mine was replaced with the coil.
after owning a few MBs from that Era , i can say that it could be THE BEST Era for Mercedes Engineering ( it extended into the mid 80s ) , Those Cars were built to last !
Only the 300 have air suspension, 280 always have coils, none have hydraulic suspension. The weird thing on the back axle is a hydraulic compensation spring which often brakes down, but looking at the ride hide, it seems ok in this car. Good buy.
To Hoovie or Wizard- concerning the air noise on the 108, I doubt it needs parts. The vent window can be adjusted. Remove the trim above the door panel, and you will see a three inch long control rod that operates the vent window. It's a ball and socket on both ends, and the length can be adjusted. I usually lengthen the rod by one turn.
It was a common modification/upgrade to replace the hydro-pneumatic compensator with a spring. Also another cool/interesting feature of those engines is the fuel injectors are controlled by points, just like an ignition system but in this case there are 8 inside a cartridge located in the bottom of the distributor.
Trigger points was the Mercedes term. they rode on small cam lobes on the lower distributor shaft. This was/is a speed density system, with a MAP Sensor about the size of a coffee mug, mounted on the firewall, connected to the intake manifold via a vacuum hose.
LOL...I was actually born in that exact model/year Mercedes on the way to hospital. Have been looking for one for yrs!!! You are very lucky. Enjoy her!!!
@@siggiborg5076 Actually, they stopped doing those land yachts 'cuz people were starting to laugh at their brands, saying they were made for old people. "Every" grandpa or grandma had a Lincoln or a Caddy and lots of younger adults wouldn't buy a car that their grandparents would buy. So they "rebranded". And, well, they ended up like this.
The land yacht market shrunk and also Cadillac kept making mistakes with every improvement. It wasn't one single thing that screw their sales, it was almost everything, quality, reliability, exclusivity, market changes, reputation, trend changes, technology and so on.
yep, just like Mercedes they started making good cars then overcomplicated them to the point they sucked. I had a 90 Fleetwood, same style as Hoovie's. It was a simple 350TBI that was the same as a chevy truck. Same trans, simple to work on and parts were available and reasonable price. Loved the legroom in it and miss how soft the ride was. But I live in WI where everything rusts out so if I want to find another one I'll be having to take a long drive.
That W108 would be worth triple what Hoovie paid for it here in the UK! Been trying to find a nice one for ages! I guess I need to plan a Mercedes hunt in the USA!
My grandfather and grandmother both worked for GM, so when they retired, they never drove anything but new Cadillac Devilles. They're gone now, and been gone since around 2000, but I will never forget being 16 and driving some of those Cadillacs. They were to this day the best car I've ever driven.
The cows do the same for any cars lucky enough to be left outside with the window's open, also they chew off the rubber lugs from 4wd mud tyres. Its because they are lacking a certain minerals in their diet that they can't get from the plants or soil they eat. They usually stop when we put some seaweed extract stuff into their drinking water to supplement the diet. Depends on the region though.
The unit over the rear axle is called a compensator. it automatically adjusts the rear ride height. All the SE's got them. When they fail the rear end squats. New ones are not obtainable. Mercedes Classic Center will buy them and rebuild them for Mercedes prices. The easy option is to put the spring from the cheaper models on to repair the car when it fails.
Gosh I love that Cadillac! That’s what I think of when I think Cadillac. Big, luxurious, and comfortable! That’s why I own a XTS. In my opinion it’s the last “Cadillac” sedan. All these new CT4s and CT5s are super cool cars but they just don’t feel like a “Cadillac”. Hopefully one day I can own one of these incredible older Cadillacs to park beside the XTS!
I had a 1959 300 D (Diplomat) and the load leveling was controlled by a switch in the cabin. You just guessed where it should be depending on how much of a load you were carrying. And as I was only 19 when I owned it. It often carried quite a load. 4 people comfortably in the back 3 (minimum) in the front and several coolers in the trunk.
My friend Christopher had a 280Se 3.5 convertible in 1970 He went to Germany and watched it being built. He had pigskin seats. The driving feel was heavy but the 3.5 made it move. I think it was on 14" tires. Compared to the cars at the time it had a very opulent and hand made feel.
I’m used to these updates around 5/6pm my time. This was about 10pm on a Friday night when went up (I admit I was late to noticing it). I better crack open (another) beer and settle back. I love these old Mercs. No room for another car, I don’t have access to a hangar like some do.
Hi! Just so you know, you can still get the rear Boge spring repaired! I just got one sent to ZF historical department (who appearently now owns Boge somehow) and they wanted ca €800 for it.
Come for the narration on the 280, stay for the endorsement of manscaping accoutrements! That was a bonus. Okay you know they're not "quarter windows", they're "ventipanes." For me the only problem with the Mercedes was the color. Now I'm kind of interested in these Mercedes cars. I was really concerned about the mismatched tires on the Cadillac but it was reassuring to learn that you will get a new set. Try Hankook for a nice set of white sidewalls. By the way 1974 smells like Jovan Musk for Men. I should know; I was there.
I wonder if Tyler's kids with ever understand how lucky they are to get to ride in perfectly maintained cars that were luxurious when even the wizard was close to their age.
My father was born in Newton, 12-26-46 We'd go visit his parents nearly every year at least once, mainly for Christmas growing up. Nice to hear that Newton got I'm guessing a no emissions bill or whatever passed recently?!?!? Newton, KS will always hold a warm and special place in my heart. My mom had a 1987 Brougham Caddy in Silver/Blue. She adored that car, and I have some of my earliest recollections of life riding in the giant yacht on 4 wheels. My dad would take my sister to Ballet classes in it, and I'd then be allowed to "drive" it around parking lots as my dad controlled the brakes/gas lol. Your Caddy Brougham looks divine, and that interior sure brings back amazing memories for me, Hoovie. All the best with that gem of an Original survivor Mercedes.
The 1987 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham sedan, isn’t quite finished. The obvious things that are not quite right are firstly the BROUGHAM badges are in the wrong place. Secondly the side moulding on both sides of the Cadillac are missing. Thirdly the double decorative coachline / pinstripes are missing. And lastly a full set of matching white-wall tyres would make the Cadillac look so much better. I would suggest “American Classic” tyres with the 2-inch wide white-wall. If you do these additional items on the classic Cadillac Brougham, you’re more likely to get a better price, when or if you decide to eventually sell. I must add, that at this point, I wonder what other bits of trim just may be missing from this Cadillac, you know if a job is worth doing, it’s worth doing right, as they say.
I'm in love w/ that Caddy. I shouldn't want it, as I already own 8.... but I do. I was just explaining today that the Caddys they produce today are nothing like the Caddys of yesteryear. In general, the luxury cars of yesteryear are nowhere properly represented in today's market. I am actually in the middle of restoring a '87 Brougham, exactly like this, triple black, for my collecting buddy. Please put whitewalls back on this car!!! Please.
That rear Item is a Boge Hydromat self energizing levelling system. Had this on my 1968 280S. Many had it swapped for a spring. If I recall, the boge was a factory unit. The spring is not good, as it makes the rear sit too high when lightly loaded. Keep it or get a renovated unit if it fails.
I was a young adult in 1973. The National 55 mph speed limit was not imposed until 1974 in response to the 1973 OPEC oil embargo. The US manufactured cars were designed for 70 mph and beyond. 1973 was seeing new smog control but still long winded V8s.
The car I miss most is my old '78 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. It had class, comfort, and was very stylish considering that its design inspiration was a BRICK.
Thanks Tyler for returning the caddy back to it's former glory. I could see my dad in in the drivers seat and the rest of the family Cruising down the highway. Good times that we had.
I got a 85' 300CD about 10 years ago as a goof. It's fun to drive and the Panzer-ness is there but just about any maintenance will mean spending unusually big $$ for what seems like a simple trivial part(s). My horsehair seats are still in great condition and super comfy, easy on my back even for those long multi-day drives..
Hey Hoovie, you’ve probably noticed this already, but the “Brougham” was put in the wrong location on your quarter panel. It should be much lower just above the middle trim piece...
100%, totally wrong place. My grandfather was a Cadillac mechanic for decades, I drove his 1981 Fleetwood Brougham to my prom. I cleaned and waxed that car a bunch and remember quite well where that Brougham script goes, and it ain't where they've got it!
Maaco did the same thing to my Grand Prix emblem on placement, and it was the worst paint job I have ever seen and I didn't get the cheaper paint job. I think they move emblems so that when other Maaco painters see it they know where it was done, IDIOTS!!
Sadly my grandfathers 1973 459 SL I inherited in the 90s was to far gone to save. When I finally had the car in my possession it had not been stored properly so the fuel turned to varnish and took out the fuel injection system, one of the first of its kind, it had a poorly done color change paint job with lacquer paint for some reason as well as issues to numerous to list. Sprinkle in a little desert and that put the final nail in the coffin. At least I have the memories. I always get nostalgic when I see one of the r107 body type cars still on the road.
I'm not sure what you mean about American cars being stretched out at 75mph. Most of them were high geared and could cruise at high speeds no problem. I bought a beat down 73 Cadillac Sedan De Ville with the 472 V8 and it had no problem cruising at 80mph and it was smooth as glass. My friend was following me in a Toyota 4runner and he had trouble keeping up with me. Same with a '70 El Camino, or a 71 Riviera i have owned. My '38 Cadillac was a bit sketchy above 60. But by the 60s and 70s they were fine.
Please do a full paint correction on the body and have the Fuchs bundt wheels refinished in Astral Silver. Cost will be around $1000 to $1200 and will be a huge hit on UA-cam
The rear suspension thing is a compensator. It also helps to keep the wheels at the right camber. The reason that you see springs there is that you can't get new compensators. You can get them re-built ( core change ), but it's expensive
Great video, Hoovie. Loving the Cadillac. One thing to note. These mid- to late- 80s rear wheel drive cars were badged as Brougham only. They were technically not part of the Fleetwood line up. The Fleetwood Brougham, starting in the 85 model year, moved to the front wheel drive platform. I spent a LOT of time at GM dealers during this period, as my 84 Olds Delta 88 managed to accumulate some $14,000 worth of warranty repairs over 42 work orders in the first 18 months. You are also missing the side molding that helps locate the badges. Other than that, the Cadillac is magnificent.
Almost forgot about that project till you mentioned it, must be needing some extensive work done apparently , Tyler hasn’t mentioned anything since it being at the body shop. 🤔
No need to replace those quarter window seals, as the windows can easily be adjusted, a 10 minutes job for each side, and the noise is gone.You just need to remove the upper door panel to access the actuator rods that are adjustable. Another example of great MB engineering. It´s a rare sight to find a car with the BOGE Hydromat self-leveling spring element. Another marvelous example of technology. Good, that it works, they're fixable, but only in the factory and they don't come cheap. However, the wizard should take a closer look at the front suspension crossmember bushings, they very much tend to fail and the car looks a bit saggy on the front.
Love the Merc and have wanted one since a friend's family had one back in the '70s but, $9k plus up to $3,500 in repairs with the promise of more to come makes it hard to justify. But I do love the one you bought.
Jesus Christ the sound of that door on the Cadillac OPENING. You can tell just how heavy that car actually is. It’s literally amazing my grandparents didn’t mangle people daily driving these things in their 70’s.
These things aren't as heavy as you'd think though, that generation of Cadillac had already been modernized a bit design wise to save weight but was still without a lot of the tech and safety stuff which has made modern luxury cars so heavy again. The generation before that one though... those were h-e-a-v-y.
Dude, Tyler, I don't know if you will read this but I had a 1970 "250" with EXACTLY the same exterior and interior color and BOY did this car bring back memories! The little story with my car was that I bought it for $1000 in I'm guessing it was probably 1980 or 81 from somebody who ended up a little bit later having a number one hit - Billy Vera of Billy and the Beaters! It had a little bit of rust and overheated occasionally, but for a thousand bucks even back then I think was a pretty good deal. I think I ended up selling it for 2500 a couple years later. In any event, thanks for bringing back awesome memories!
You gotta love the Car Wizard..... humble, honest, shy mechanic, now a serial extrovert and subject of Tyler's jokes! Goes from working on mom-and-pop rides to having Bentleys, Porsches, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and rare oddities double stacked in his shop!!
Hoovie has helped The Car Wizard succeed. Now that everyone knows how honest the shop is, the business is booming. An additional building next door. Big boats etc. Everyone wins.
Plus adding the hard work ,talent, honesty that made Hoovie attached to the Wizard for years
Agree with all you said, but I think the term the Wizard would prefer is “technician” vs “mechanic.” Cheers.
@@2W3X4YZ5 Agree with you. In Australia during the middle of the last century there were many Quick Service centre franchises. But the State Automotive Industry Association had a numbered Registration Scheme for fully qualified Mechanics. Nowadays anyone working in a Garage conducting an oil change service is called a Mechanic.
The complex design of Computer controlled automobiles is beyond the education level of Old School Mechanics, that is why the job title needs to be changed to clarify the skill level of the service provider.
I am not belittling the experience required to carry out routine maintenance. I am saying that some Mechanics need to refresh their basic training. Phil.
Yeah!.... He's a hardworking American man. * Businessman
Caddy Brougham emblems were put in wrong place by one of my guys. Thanks for pointing it out everyone. We will get them repositioned for Hoovie.
Great job on the Caddy. Hard to put badges where they originally were when the car is 19 miles long.
is the horizontal door trim going on?
There should also be a side moulding that runs from just behind the front wheel well straight through to the back of the quarter panel. Unlike other GM brands, it is stainless steel with a body colour rubber insert. The Brougham badges should be just below that molding.
Their eagerness to jump on such a minutia of a mistake only illustrates the continual excellence of your standard.
my favorite videos on the Hoovies channel are the ones with Car Wizard in them.
my favorite videos on the Car Wizard channel are the ones with Hoovie in them
Hoovie arrives in a Mercedes, leaves in a Cadillac, it's like a successful Mafioso's journey, but in reverse 😂
At least he's not leaving in the trunk of a Cadillac...
@@AeroGuy07 Wizard might take him fishing, on his boat.
@@ebutuoyYT :)
😂😂
@@ebutuoyYT Concrete boots 🥾
10:28-10:35 even though it was missing, I still heard the Hoovie's theme song in my head.
Damn, I had to replay that. I totally missed it, somehow the theme song played in my head as well.
Ha. I heard the music that Car Wizard plays on his channel when he lifts a car.
I swear whenever Wizard calls and says a car is done Hoovie just buys a car so he has a car to drop off in its place.
I have a client who knows very little about cars, but likes the looks of certain models, and keeps buying them. Almost every car he buys, is a disaster, with multiple problems, that he wants repaired. I've pleaded with him to call us before he buys one, so we can tell if it's a good deal or one to stay away from, but to no avail. I guess it's the interesting people that makes life interesting for the rest of us.
Well how else would he get there?? 😀
He buys these cars for the entertainment value. What would be the point of buying a 2 year old Camry with full service docs and clean Carfax? "Well, I just drove this car over to the my mechanic who inspected it, and there's nothing wrong with it. Dealer even changed the all the fluids and filters before I drove it off the lot." End of video. {Yawn. Unsubscribe.} These vids are entertaining, and prove that you ain't getting a cheap used car that's actually usable as a daily driver unless you get it from your grandma. If you're not handy, and don't have the time, avoid cheap used cars. Also most people selling junkers are strictly delusional. They demand top dollar for cars that are really worth no more than the biscuits in the cat.
wizard's like.... Hoovie live forever, please!
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I'm used to the music playing while wizard raises a car lol
I noticed it missing two
But I heard it in my head even though it wasn’t playing LOL
@@StansAuto83 same 🤣
fr 😂
Little editing snafu
Thats the hydraulic compensator “spring”. It pivots in the middle of the rear axle in order to the level of the both sides of the suspension by helping distributing pressure from both shock absorbers. It’s sort of a additional dampening device not to be mixed with a self leveling suspension system
It pumps it's self up when loaded.
Most cars of this type that I have seen replaced the compensator with a simple metal spring.
@@boblacks945 That is why you always need a Mercedes Benz specialist to check 70-80's Mercedes before you buy. It worked like an expensive version of the compensator spring kit sold for VW Beetles in the 1960s. I had both and if you were cornering at ten-tenths, the swing axel's on both vehicles would allow the rear wheel to tuck up inside of the wheel arch, which left you tippy-toeing through twisty corners. But you were driving on the absolute limit of adhesion. FUN. Phil.
It IS a levelling device. Boge hydraulic levelling strut.
Same was used in Range Rover from -70
When car is moving, this thing is pumping it self to certain level, and keeping it there. In Range Rover there is 700 kg load bering in rear, and this keeps it level
@@phillipj.moodie3077 In 1994 l drove my 300SEL 6.3 in a 2000km rally.
Taking foot off the accelerator ,at speed, would cause the rear wheels to 'fold under" (lots of positive camber) providing a breathtaking experience trying ti keep the beast under control..
It would get even more hairy when you needed to brake at the same time.
Fun indeed 😆
"I disconnected the speedometer because it was noisy"? That is awesome. I gotta remember that one the next time I sell a junker.
Lol
common for the speedo gears to make a noise, regrease and ok.
officer: „do you have any idea how fast you were going?“
„no i disconnected the speedometer because it was noisy.
@@iamwritingrightnow8217 officer: "do you have any idea how fast you were going?"
owner: "oh about thirty decibels"
@@SamothRetsof It was pretty obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells that OP wasn't calling Hoovie's car a junker.
I can't believe Tyler forced me to think about his immaculately trimmed nether regions here at Pubie's Garage
You're alone with that thought. No one else that watched the video is thinking about the landscaping at the southern border. 🙃
@@bgee461 what about the 18 people who liked this comment 🙃
@@bgee461 I don't think you've seen advertisements for the lawnmower manscape razor 😂😂😂
Like polished Bentley down there.
I don't want to think about Tylers nether regions. Yuk.
The weird rear suspension part is called "Boge Bein" with 108 enthusiasts. It is actually original in all 108s. The Spring Hoovie is talking about is the cheap conversion part which comes from the w110/111 series (Heckflosse), which is considerably cheaper than the Boge Bein.
The Boge Bein used to cost more than 1000€, don't know what they cost right now or if you can get any at all now. It is for automatic ride height levelling.
The axle is a "Pendelachse"= pendulum axle, similar in construction in VW Beetles and Porsche 356. Something to mimic independent rear suspension. My 108 days were 10 yrs ago. Toooo many maintenance costs but great fun and reliable for daily use.
It’s funny when the wizard looks surprised every time when hoovie walks into the wizard shop
He's like Mr krabs when Tyler walks in $$$
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts Wizard says to himself..."my plan is working"
@@mattz6470 can't knock his good mechanic work
He's a good actor! Ever seen the first video he did with Hoovie? :-)
@@henrikcarlsen1881 he smells cash 💰
The Hydrodynamic compensator you and the Wizard were looking at is completely stock. It keeps the rear level with a load in the trunk. It does the same thing as the spring with the addition of level control. That is all. The Classic center in Irvine, CA sells rebuilt units. You send them yours and they send you one that has been rebuilt. Some people just swap in a coil spring when the hydraulic strut has worn out.
yep check it isn't leaking and leave it alone
Fix the protective boot on the hydro shaft.
Good lord that bald balls transition was priceless.
I come for the classic Mercs but I stay for the image of Hoovie shaving himself back to fifth grade for 90 GODDAMN MINUTES on a single charge.
there's no way that machine goes anywhere near my balls
@@Molders32 lol
When you first start shaving once, it becomes routine. I guess he's plagued with heavy regrowth, or he *will* be from now on. When Tyler and Tavarish do their little Manscaped ads, it sounds so..... Hilariously wrong. Like way too much information. But I guess using a shaving tool beats using those wax tear-offs "down there". "Stretchy testies syndrome" is probably quite uncomfortable. And all this said with a straight face.
Wonder how The Wizard will handle this promotion when Manscape calls to sponsor his channel
That sign in the Weeezard's office that says "Skilled Labor isn't cheap/Cheap Labor Isn't Skilled" LOL so true!
i noticed that sign too, i want one
The same sign is hanging in my brother-in-laws customer waiting room at his shop.
The shop specializes in Imports, especially high-end German vehicles and the shop has been in his family since 1957.
18:50 casual holden/pontiac driving past. Rare to see them on the roads now days, they've all been moth balled in Australia.
Hell yeah I also caught that. You can hear it too
Free Tip: That regulator block from the Bentley (it's a standard Citroën XM and Xantia part) are very good for building a sphere tester. Connect an old pump and install a pressure meter and your done. You will also need a short "suckhose" and an oil reservoir (oil bottle), a 12mm wrench for the bypass screw and some ordinary brake pipes (coppernickel is fine). You want that Mr. Wizard if you are dealing with old Bentley/RR's with Citroën hydraulics. And lets face it. It's only a matter of time before Hoovie buys an old Citroën which I of course is waiting for and supports 100%. And I got you all covered if needed. Worked on them for 30 years and has all the official workshop manuals, and the hydraulics are completly stuck in my head. It takes one minute to diagnose a sphere. It's all about it's gas pressure. And if you really want to go to town, you can fill them yourself. You need a hydrogen bottle and some home made tools (search youtube).
Wonder if he will be able to get hold of XM and Xantia parts in the US, These cars are rare today even her in europe and parts not necessarily easy to get hold of anymore. On the other hand he could take Ms wizard on a vacation to france and do some shopping :)
Also the old sphere is grey because that's what Citroën OEM spheres were like in 2003 when the car was new. They changed their colour in '99 (?) to make the spheres look a bit more modern, but then reverted them back to their classic green colour about ten years ago I think. Both of these spheres seem OEM to me, as they're both Citroën branded. None of the aftermarket spheres I've seen had the Citroën logo on them
Yes. Rolls Royce licensed Citroen's hydraulic suspension . . . they couldn't improve upon it.
@@SterkeYerke5555 IIRC the first C5 that got LDS and 350cc spheres was the first grey ones. But some of the last of the Xantias actually was sold with the same C5 spheres in the rear. And for some reason they decided that SOME of the "classic" spheres needed a new color. Then there were the "three half drilled holes on the top-spheres" which had wastly improved membrande life. But even they also came some in green, some in grey. The "three hole spheres" can actually run for decades without loosing any pressure at all. But when they finally go, it is a bit more spectacular. In those cases you are glad for that loose fit filler cap. I have blown a fully pressurised sphere on a DS once. And it has a metal reservoir with screwed on filler cap with a small breather hole. Yep, it got bloated like a football.
@@leonarddaneman810 If there is one thing in the car industry that no one could do better, it was the Citroën suspension. Released in 1954 and still is the best by far. The DS makes speed bumps dissapear completely. And the Xantia Activa from 1995 was a medium sized hatchback that outperformed the McLaren 675LT in the corners. And that´s particularly interresting because McLaren with their "revolutionary" suspension actually was a rip-off of the system in that old hatchback. Pretty good for a 67 year old concept.
Friday night 30 years ago... WOOOO! Let's hit the bars and drink!! Friday night now... Cool, Hoovie posted a new video!
Not that there's anything wrong with that
Also let's do rails of coke
In the matrix according to Wizard:
- you never really know a leak until you've tasted it
- you never really know a service record until you've smelled it
I fully expected him to taste those records
Seeing the Wizard taste stuff felt like vindication for all the times I was called crazy when working on my own stuff. I know smell is important too, but if I see a dark puddle under my car I can't really reach to smell it, but I can usually pick a drop up and taste if it's oil, anti-freeze, hydraulic or fuel.
My favorite is the pink kind of anti-freeze, that one's kind of sweet-tasting.
Given he likes floaty cars, and he likes European cars, I'm surprised Hoovie hasn't yet bought the ultimate float mobile: the Citroën DS. Nothing's cooler than a DS - he could be a French assassin!
I agree about the DS, although the last bit is the wrong way round. Escape Assassins on four shot out tyres like Charles De Gaulle did in 1962. From then on he insisted that his Presidential car was a DS.
@@MrDuncl I was thinking about that bloke in the beige trenchcoat, but aye, fair enough! ;)
I would kill for a C6, the last descendant of the original DS (and a Citroen specialist or Wizard equivalent).
@@emjayay You've got taste.
I was a Mercedes fan, but the DS was close behind it!
Hello guys, the contraption on the rear axle operates like a self leveling system, the more you load the back, the stiffer it pumps up to keep the car level.
Mine was replaced with the coil.
The interior in that Caddy is incredible! One of my favorites of yours. Time for a cross-country road trip in it!
Wizard is the salt of the earth... He treats people right and it shows.
after owning a few MBs from that Era , i can say that it could be THE BEST Era for Mercedes Engineering ( it extended into the mid 80s ) , Those Cars were built to last !
Only the 300 have air suspension, 280 always have coils, none have hydraulic suspension. The weird thing on the back axle is a hydraulic compensation spring which often brakes down, but looking at the ride hide, it seems ok in this car. Good buy.
The device on the axle might be a Boge Hyromat - an automatic self leveling spring. Road bumps pump it up.
best front end of a benz ever, loved the stacked headlights
"There are three cars that are finished". Oh oh, Hoovie's losing his storage on those ones!
The Caddy turned out amazing Tyler! Love it!
To Hoovie or Wizard- concerning the air noise on the 108, I doubt it needs parts. The vent window can be adjusted. Remove the trim above the door panel, and you will see a three inch long control rod that operates the vent window. It's a ball and socket on both ends, and the length can be adjusted. I usually lengthen the rod by one turn.
He's just ripping him off. He's making a ton of money off Hoovie.
It was a common modification/upgrade to replace the hydro-pneumatic compensator with a spring. Also another cool/interesting feature of those engines is the fuel injectors are controlled by points, just like an ignition system but in this case there are 8 inside a cartridge located in the bottom of the distributor.
Trigger points was the Mercedes term. they rode on small cam lobes on the lower distributor shaft. This was/is a speed density system, with a MAP Sensor about the size of a coffee mug, mounted on the firewall, connected to the intake manifold via a vacuum hose.
LOL...I was actually born in that exact model/year Mercedes on the way to hospital. Have been looking for one for yrs!!! You are very lucky. Enjoy her!!!
Cadillac: Let's get away from what's made us millions.
Also Cadillac: Why is no one buying our vehicles?
@@siggiborg5076 No money, no obsolescence.
@@siggiborg5076 Actually, they stopped doing those land yachts 'cuz people were starting to laugh at their brands, saying they were made for old people. "Every" grandpa or grandma had a Lincoln or a Caddy and lots of younger adults wouldn't buy a car that their grandparents would buy. So they "rebranded". And, well, they ended up like this.
The land yacht market shrunk and also Cadillac kept making mistakes with every improvement. It wasn't one single thing that screw their sales, it was almost everything, quality, reliability, exclusivity, market changes, reputation, trend changes, technology and so on.
It's kind of ugly reminds me of a ford granada
yep, just like Mercedes they started making good cars then overcomplicated them to the point they sucked. I had a 90 Fleetwood, same style as Hoovie's. It was a simple 350TBI that was the same as a chevy truck. Same trans, simple to work on and parts were available and reasonable price. Loved the legroom in it and miss how soft the ride was. But I live in WI where everything rusts out so if I want to find another one I'll be having to take a long drive.
At this rate Wizard will be able to buy your whole collection.
And put them on his island along with his boat fleet
“All three Lambos working” isn’t a jinx, it’s an observation that causes the wave function to collapse.
That W108 would be worth triple what Hoovie paid for it here in the UK! Been trying to find a nice one for ages! I guess I need to plan a Mercedes hunt in the USA!
2:54 this the funniest transition in the world
Weee-zard!
Manscape 4.0 action almost live on UA-cam!
😂
I love watching the bill-paying sequences! So funny to see Hoovie's expressions and the Wizard's explanations!
The relationship you two have is just brilliant!
My grandfather and grandmother both worked for GM, so when they retired, they never drove anything but new Cadillac Devilles. They're gone now, and been gone since around 2000, but I will never forget being 16 and driving some of those Cadillacs. They were to this day the best car I've ever driven.
Hoovie you’re right this Cadi is where GM SHOULD be as far as full size S CLASS competition is now days. Greatings from Cali.
My dad had this car in white & with a moonroof, in Germany when I was a kid. Great memories- this is the era to own...
Growing up I had a friend who’s family had a similar Mercedes in their barn. Their goat ate the interior.
The cows do the same for any cars lucky enough to be left outside with the window's open, also they chew off the rubber lugs from 4wd mud tyres.
Its because they are lacking a certain minerals in their diet that they can't get from the plants or soil they eat. They usually stop when we put some seaweed extract stuff into their drinking water to supplement the diet.
Depends on the region though.
That's good eating as far as a goat is concerned.
Big step up from cigarette butts and stones
A goat of impeccable taste
Goat must have been German bloodline 😂😂😂
Rich Corinthian goats
Hoovy: "Wizard, I bought you an old Mercedes!"
Wizard: "I have two boats already!"
The unit over the rear axle is called a compensator. it automatically adjusts the rear ride height. All the SE's got them. When they fail the rear end squats. New ones are not obtainable. Mercedes Classic Center will buy them and rebuild them for Mercedes prices. The easy option is to put the spring from the cheaper models on to repair the car when it fails.
Gosh I love that Cadillac! That’s what I think of when I think Cadillac. Big, luxurious, and comfortable! That’s why I own a XTS. In my opinion it’s the last “Cadillac” sedan. All these new CT4s and CT5s are super cool cars but they just don’t feel like a “Cadillac”. Hopefully one day I can own one of these incredible older Cadillacs to park beside the XTS!
Hoovie buys a new car
Wizard: We're going to need a bigger boat
More like " I get to buy a bigger boat"
Love the edit switch up for manscape using wizards head
Classic
@Hoovie's Garage
I was thinking as you pulled up to the shop that you should have your own garage door opener for that place!!
That would be scary Tyler would feel it up overnight than they wouldn't be able to get in lol
I had a 1959 300 D (Diplomat) and the load leveling was controlled by a switch in the cabin. You just guessed where it should be depending on how much of a load you were carrying. And as I was only 19 when I owned it. It often carried quite a load. 4 people comfortably in the back 3 (minimum) in the front and several coolers in the trunk.
My friend Christopher had a 280Se 3.5 convertible in 1970 He went to Germany and watched it being built. He had pigskin seats. The driving feel was heavy but the 3.5 made it move. I think it was on 14" tires. Compared to the cars at the time it had a very opulent and hand made feel.
I can relate to Wizard on that one ... I absolutely love the smell of old paper or a book that hasn't been opened in ages!
I’m used to these updates around 5/6pm my time. This was about 10pm on a Friday night when went up (I admit I was late to noticing it). I better crack open (another) beer and settle back.
I love these old Mercs. No room for another car, I don’t have access to a hangar like some do.
I had a Fleetwood Cadu like that one and it was great !
I could pass everything except the gas stations !
Hi!
Just so you know, you can still get the rear Boge spring repaired! I just got one sent to ZF historical department (who appearently now owns Boge somehow) and they wanted ca €800 for it.
Come for the narration on the 280, stay for the endorsement of manscaping accoutrements! That was a bonus. Okay you know they're not "quarter windows", they're "ventipanes." For me the only problem with the Mercedes was the color. Now I'm kind of interested in these Mercedes cars. I was really concerned about the mismatched tires on the Cadillac but it was reassuring to learn that you will get a new set. Try Hankook for a nice set of white sidewalls. By the way 1974 smells like Jovan Musk for Men. I should know; I was there.
Well, we all know how The Wizard is able to afford yachts, Ferarris & all his other toys 🤠
The Wizard has said so, a couple of videos ago.
@@noway234 what’d he say
Have always loved these. Thank you for making these vids!
I wonder if Tyler's kids with ever understand how lucky they are to get to ride in perfectly maintained cars that were luxurious when even the wizard was close to their age.
My father was born in Newton, 12-26-46 We'd go visit his parents nearly every year at least once, mainly for Christmas growing up. Nice to hear that Newton got I'm guessing a no emissions bill or whatever passed recently?!?!? Newton, KS will always hold a warm and special place in my heart.
My mom had a 1987 Brougham Caddy in Silver/Blue. She adored that car, and I have some of my earliest recollections of life riding in the giant yacht on 4 wheels. My dad would take my sister to Ballet classes in it, and I'd then be allowed to "drive" it around parking lots as my dad controlled the brakes/gas lol. Your Caddy Brougham looks divine, and that interior sure brings back amazing memories for me, Hoovie.
All the best with that gem of an Original survivor Mercedes.
My aunt Ruby had a that Cadillac in white with white interior and drove it from the day she bought it till she passed away. Love that tuna boat lol
What are you looking at the top of my head for? 🤣🤣🤣
OK, I have to say this.....The Caddy needs to have whitewalls !
No "rims", etc. Just normal whitewalls !
I’m guessing that “mystery hooptie” underneath that car cover is a 80’s convertible Porsche.
It’s a convertible Porsche something. Those headlights were a giveaway. I thought Porsche or triumph one
Great video!! I have a 91’ DeElegance with 37k miles. The last true full size Cadillac. I agree with Hoovie. Can’t be beat.
The 1987 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham sedan, isn’t quite finished. The obvious things that are not quite right are firstly the BROUGHAM badges are in the wrong place. Secondly the side moulding on both sides of the Cadillac are missing. Thirdly the double decorative coachline / pinstripes are missing. And lastly a full set of matching white-wall tyres would make the Cadillac look so much better. I would suggest “American Classic” tyres with the 2-inch wide white-wall.
If you do these additional items on the classic Cadillac Brougham, you’re more likely to get a better price, when or if you decide to eventually sell.
I must add, that at this point, I wonder what other bits of trim just may be missing from this Cadillac, you know if a job is worth doing, it’s worth doing right, as they say.
Dude the Manscape to Wizard transition was hilarious. Great work Tyler. Longtime subscriber
"your balls will thank you" caught me so off guard 😭 only hoovie could say that with a straight face
Both Cadillac and Lincoln have lost sight of what they’re supposed to be a luxury car
I'm in love w/ that Caddy. I shouldn't want it, as I already own 8.... but I do.
I was just explaining today that the Caddys they produce today are nothing like the Caddys of yesteryear. In general, the luxury cars of yesteryear are nowhere properly represented in today's market. I am actually in the middle of restoring a '87 Brougham, exactly like this, triple black, for my collecting buddy. Please put whitewalls back on this car!!! Please.
That rear Item is a Boge Hydromat self energizing levelling system. Had this on my 1968 280S.
Many had it swapped for a spring. If I recall, the boge was a factory unit.
The spring is not good, as it makes the rear sit too high when lightly loaded.
Keep it or get a renovated unit if it fails.
I am glad Car Wizard sports a beard because we will never see a razor or trimmer sponsored segment in his videos
Hoovies Garage is basically Tyler buys a car, immediately takes it to the wizard, leaves it there a month or so. Repeat. Love it.
I just realized that Tyler sounds a bit like Shaggy from Scooby Doo
I was a young adult in 1973. The National 55 mph speed limit was not imposed until 1974 in response to the 1973 OPEC oil embargo. The US manufactured cars were designed for 70 mph and beyond. 1973 was seeing new smog control but still long winded V8s.
The car I miss most is my old '78 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. It had class, comfort, and was very stylish considering that its design inspiration was a BRICK.
That Merc is a gem!! Probably one of the sweetest rides you’ve bought!
Thanks Tyler for returning the caddy back to it's former glory.
I could see my dad in in the drivers seat and the rest of the family
Cruising down the highway. Good times that we had.
Woahhh this is an unexpected upload. Caught me off guard for a moment
Know what you mean. A pleasant surprise.
I got a 85' 300CD about 10 years ago as a goof. It's fun to drive and the Panzer-ness is there but just about any maintenance will mean spending unusually big $$ for what seems like a simple trivial part(s). My horsehair seats are still in great condition and super comfy, easy on my back even for those long multi-day drives..
Make sure you get tires with the white trim for that Caddy.
Hey Hoovie, you’ve probably noticed this already, but the “Brougham” was put in the wrong location on your quarter panel. It should be much lower just above the middle trim piece...
Good eye Robby, I was thinking the same thing.
I had a caddy like that years ago. I saw that emblem placement and almost fell off me seat.
100%, totally wrong place. My grandfather was a Cadillac mechanic for decades, I drove his 1981 Fleetwood Brougham to my prom. I cleaned and waxed that car a bunch and remember quite well where that Brougham script goes, and it ain't where they've got it!
Absolutely wrong place. Way too high.
Maaco did the same thing to my Grand Prix emblem on placement, and it was the worst paint job I have ever seen and I didn't get the cheaper paint job. I think they move emblems so that when other Maaco painters see it they know where it was done, IDIOTS!!
When Mercedes-Benz were built to last and be luxury icons.
there is really nothing built like these cars then or since, pretty unique
Sadly they lost their magic.
Luxury is now associated with # of screens. As long as it makes it past the lease period, no one cares.
This has a computer on it
Sadly my grandfathers 1973 459 SL I inherited in the 90s was to far gone to save. When I finally had the car in my possession it had not been stored properly so the fuel turned to varnish and took out the fuel injection system, one of the first of its kind, it had a poorly done color change paint job with lacquer paint for some reason as well as issues to numerous to list. Sprinkle in a little desert and that put the final nail in the coffin. At least I have the memories. I always get nostalgic when I see one of the r107 body type cars still on the road.
Did you forget to add the music during the lift?
I'm not sure what you mean about American cars being stretched out at 75mph. Most of them were high geared and could cruise at high speeds no problem. I bought a beat down 73 Cadillac Sedan De Ville with the 472 V8 and it had no problem cruising at 80mph and it was smooth as glass. My friend was following me in a Toyota 4runner and he had trouble keeping up with me.
Same with a '70 El Camino, or a 71 Riviera i have owned. My '38 Cadillac was a bit sketchy above 60. But by the 60s and 70s they were fine.
I live up north and "noisy when cold" speedo's were common and usually a good re-greasing of the cable would fix that.
The compensator is just like a big shock that maintains the rear ride height.
Hey Hoovie, keep making great videos man. Always glad to see you putting great content. Keep it up!
Please do a full paint correction on the body and have the Fuchs bundt wheels refinished in Astral Silver. Cost will be around $1000 to $1200 and will be a huge hit on UA-cam
Collaboration with AMMO? Would tune in.
@@stkiswr AMMO would make it lije new including the engine bay. Car would then bring $20K. withe mechanical fixes done
I already tune in to all mentioned 😆. But ammo should collaborate with Hoovie just like Mr wizard. Why not? All are great at what they do. 😁
The bundts look terrible on this car. It needs steelies with painted hubcaps!
@@blueridgerennsport and white sidewall tires?
The rear suspension thing is a compensator. It also helps to keep the wheels at the right camber. The reason that you see springs there is that you can't get new compensators. You can get them re-built ( core change ), but it's expensive
Great video, Hoovie. Loving the Cadillac. One thing to note. These mid- to late- 80s rear wheel drive cars were badged as Brougham only. They were technically not part of the Fleetwood line up. The Fleetwood Brougham, starting in the 85 model year, moved to the front wheel drive platform. I spent a LOT of time at GM dealers during this period, as my 84 Olds Delta 88 managed to accumulate some $14,000 worth of warranty repairs over 42 work orders in the first 18 months. You are also missing the side molding that helps locate the badges. Other than that, the Cadillac is magnificent.
The only UA-camr I least wanted to have in mind talking about manscaping than Hoovie is probably Uncle Tony.
What ever happened to the Maybach project?
Still at the body shop, apparently.
Almost forgot about that project till you mentioned it, must be needing some extensive work done apparently , Tyler hasn’t mentioned anything since it being at the body shop. 🤔
Oohhhhhh I'm blinded by the light, No I can't sleep until I feel your touch
No need to replace those quarter window seals, as the windows can easily be adjusted, a 10 minutes job for each side, and the noise is gone.You just need to remove the upper door panel to access the actuator rods that are adjustable. Another example of great MB engineering. It´s a rare sight to find a car with the BOGE Hydromat self-leveling spring element. Another marvelous example of technology. Good, that it works, they're fixable, but only in the factory and they don't come cheap. However, the wizard should take a closer look at the front suspension crossmember bushings, they very much tend to fail and the car looks a bit saggy on the front.
Love the Merc and have wanted one since a friend's family had one back in the '70s but, $9k plus up to $3,500 in repairs with the promise of more to come makes it hard to justify. But I do love the one you bought.
I see Wizard got a new office. So the customers can escape out the window after they hear the price.
the light blue paint is gorgeous
Jesus Christ the sound of that door on the Cadillac OPENING. You can tell just how heavy that car actually is.
It’s literally amazing my grandparents didn’t mangle people daily driving these things in their 70’s.
Back then, everybody had heavy cars.
These things aren't as heavy as you'd think though, that generation of Cadillac had already been modernized a bit design wise to save weight but was still without a lot of the tech and safety stuff which has made modern luxury cars so heavy again. The generation before that one though... those were h-e-a-v-y.
Dude, Tyler, I don't know if you will read this but I had a 1970 "250" with EXACTLY the same exterior and interior color and BOY did this car bring back memories! The little story with my car was that I bought it for $1000 in I'm guessing it was probably 1980 or 81 from somebody who ended up a little bit later having a number one hit - Billy Vera of Billy and the Beaters! It had a little bit of rust and overheated occasionally, but for a thousand bucks even back then I think was a pretty good deal. I think I ended up selling it for 2500 a couple years later. In any event, thanks for bringing back awesome memories!
Hoovie turns a $2000 car nobody wants into a $10,000 car nobody wants. Strong work.