I’ve had the same approach for years now, colleagues sometimes criticize me for not having stems but who cares!! The organicity and humanity found in stereo recorded performances is, at least to me, unmatchable.
And today I will find out if my bid on a second hand PerFOURmer is successful....🤞 - I have been converting the PerFOURmer since Mk I - watching your videos recently has inspired me to flip some old gear and go after the Vermona!! 😀 🙏
Since I moved from just working in the box to using hardware Ive embraced using just stereo master recordings for my tracks too. I love how immediate and human it can make my stuff sound. I never considered recording the separate instruments at the end of a take like you have - great idea - its a nice way of giving some extra samples or an emergency repair kit for rebuilding track sections if needed later. Great tip 👍
This is fantastic. I’ve been so stuck getting to the next stage of taking live jams and song sequences and getting them into my daw to complete the song process. Every time I’ve recorded my synths one by one into ableton I completely lose the vibe and don’t know where to go next. Subbed and binge watching all of your videos
Hey Roy! that was my probelm too. The only other way fr me would be to have all multitracked and record the performance, but way too much headaches. Im happy right now :)
For a long time I struggled with mixing my hardware to a stereo file out of the box. It’s difficult when you know, or think, you could get better results tracking individually in the box. Recently though I’ve been able to embrace the performance aspect found in the single take. Went all in on out of the box mixing with an analog heat / SSL SiX and have been really happy with the results. Sure there are aspects of control I lose but I’m loving the overall experience much more. Letting go of individual stems was difficult but I’m glad that I did. Great video to watch because taking mixing out of the box has only been a recent thing for me. Thanks again!
It's a great discipline and something I'd like to get more comfortable with. I tend to work with a few stereo channels so somewhere between mixed and multi-tracked - I rely too much on being able to tweak EQ and levels on tracks in post, even though I don't do much post production. Drums especially. My fear with this workflow is those retakes - if I have a multitrack sometimes it's as simple as moving a single slider to fix it - having to recapture a whole performance has the risk of losing some of the magic in the first take. Like all things fear holds me back :)
Thanks for your share! Fear is a normal thing, sometimes tho is liberating to let go of all the expectations and comforts, I think that pushes creativity a lot!
Sounds wonderful! And I can totally relate to the workflow but then again I am biased as I do the same haha My hypothesis is that folks with background in gigging or playing live with bands just feel more at ease and in the flow when performing as opposed to recording each bit and the lego blocking it into place. In any case, wonderful tune and a wonderful video!
Very similar to my approach. Recording and mixing live performance through analog mixer as L/R track; if the recording sucks, I'll do it again. Then just mastering!
That's pretty much the same way, I do it. Different instruments and mixer of course. I even do the single sound recording afterwards, but most of the time I don't use them. I tried multitrack recording, but somehow that didn't feel right. What's came out always sounded so different then the stereo mix, resulting in a lot of work to get closer to the sound I actually wanted. So the stereo track recording for me is the better way. Even if you risk to have the perfect take performance wise but messed up volumes. You said you're doing around three takes. Sometimes I end up doing four to eight takes, but on the other side, sometimes the first one is just perfect. Thanks for the insight! Glad to see other musicians working that way!
I’m a recent subscriber and have really been enjoying your videos. Your set up is clean without being sterile, very inspiring stuff. Your melodies are also just great, they hit that nice balance between tense, emotive and danceable. Good work ✌️
Really enjoyed this video and the previous also. Look forward to more and maybe some of your scientific approach to mixing/mastering. I work in stereo due to the limitations of my mixer and next time I am going to do as you have done here. Thank you for showing us the way.
thank you for taking us along your recording process! I'm using stereo recordings only, and now doubting to record all my instruments individual, but I think I will lose myself completely in the post production.. Maybe just get a better stereo audio-interface then haha
Thank you so much for your videos! Love the topics you share and also your way of explaining etc :-) would love to see a deeper dive into your mastering process sometime if the inspiration arises!
THANK YOU! There need to be more Videos like that about workflow for imtermediates instead of all those beginmer videos how this or that synth or synthesis method works
I would like to see you build off this track. It would be helpful to learn your process through to the finish of this track. You already inspired me for a new approach to recording with this video. Thank you.
Agree mate. I have direct outs. But a live performance always seems to sound more organic and way better to me. Harmonics created through the mixer bus just blend together in a way you just can't create from stems without loosin the magic.
Thanks! Would love some DAW arrangement/process videos. I'm working on an album using just the Model Cycles that only has a stereo out. Struggling to figure out and commit to a workflow. Any inspiration would be appreciated.
Thanks man! this is exactly how I want to do it. 1 question: How do you make sure you can align the recorded stereotrack in your DAW to the time grid in the DAW? do you sent start/stop messages to your octatrack from the DAW? or do you drag the track to the grid later? no tempo problems when adding stuff in your DAW (like the rytm overbridge parts) later?
So, i just set the tempo in the daw as the same tempo on my octatrack. then later on i will move the recording to put it in grid but being the tempos matched is super eeasy!
I've been wondering about switching to Bitwig. Have had Ableton many years and it has never kept my interest long. Mostly using hardware now but I would like to do as is shown here... still on Ableton 9 so time to decide to upgrade or jump to Bitwig
I’ve had the same approach for years now, colleagues sometimes criticize me for not having stems but who cares!! The organicity and humanity found in stereo recorded performances is, at least to me, unmatchable.
Yes, I would love to see the process of building the track from the individual parts! I love your weekly posts. Bravo 👏
And today I will find out if my bid on a second hand PerFOURmer is successful....🤞 - I have been converting the PerFOURmer since Mk I - watching your videos recently has inspired me to flip some old gear and go after the Vermona!! 😀 🙏
Thank you! Will do!
Congrats!!!
Hey, this is a great video, and very helpful. I'm really glad I ran across your channel. Cheers!
Thanks mate!
Since I moved from just working in the box to using hardware Ive embraced using just stereo master recordings for my tracks too. I love how immediate and human it can make my stuff sound. I never considered recording the separate instruments at the end of a take like you have - great idea - its a nice way of giving some extra samples or an emergency repair kit for rebuilding track sections if needed later. Great tip 👍
Glad that can be helpful. Is a simple thing,but is also great to grow your sample library
Really insightful! Would love to see how you make a track from the stems
Coming soon!
This is fantastic. I’ve been so stuck getting to the next stage of taking live jams and song sequences and getting them into my daw to complete the song process. Every time I’ve recorded my synths one by one into ableton I completely lose the vibe and don’t know where to go next.
Subbed and binge watching all of your videos
Hey Roy! that was my probelm too. The only other way fr me would be to have all multitracked and record the performance, but way too much headaches. Im happy right now :)
@@OoraMusic Thanks for giving me the confidence to roll with the limitations I have and finally complete some music. Your channel is pure inspiration
sounds great man! and yes I'd love to see you build a track from that in Ableton!
On it!
+1 on this
My man! You're doing a fantastic job with these videos. Great work 👏 🖤🖤🖤
Thanks!
For a long time I struggled with mixing my hardware to a stereo file out of the box. It’s difficult when you know, or think, you could get better results tracking individually in the box. Recently though I’ve been able to embrace the performance aspect found in the single take. Went all in on out of the box mixing with an analog heat / SSL SiX and have been really happy with the results. Sure there are aspects of control I lose but I’m loving the overall experience much more. Letting go of individual stems was difficult but I’m glad that I did. Great video to watch because taking mixing out of the box has only been a recent thing for me. Thanks again!
Was the same for me. Also i realized hat i never got better result with individual tracks, only lot more possibilities i didnt need. Ciao!
Sounds lovely man. I'm always keen on learning how people approach their live jams. Keep these videos coming
Thanks! Will do!
It's a great discipline and something I'd like to get more comfortable with. I tend to work with a few stereo channels so somewhere between mixed and multi-tracked - I rely too much on being able to tweak EQ and levels on tracks in post, even though I don't do much post production. Drums especially. My fear with this workflow is those retakes - if I have a multitrack sometimes it's as simple as moving a single slider to fix it - having to recapture a whole performance has the risk of losing some of the magic in the first take. Like all things fear holds me back :)
Thanks for your share! Fear is a normal thing, sometimes tho is liberating to let go of all the expectations and comforts, I think that pushes creativity a lot!
Sounds wonderful! And I can totally relate to the workflow but then again I am biased as I do the same haha
My hypothesis is that folks with background in gigging or playing live with bands just feel more at ease and in the flow when performing as opposed to recording each bit and the lego blocking it into place. In any case, wonderful tune and a wonderful video!
Exactly! I was in bands so my approach is totally performance oriented!
Very similar to my approach. Recording and mixing live performance through analog mixer as L/R track; if the recording sucks, I'll do it again. Then just mastering!
my favorite approach!
Thank you, I was really looking forward for a tutorial like this since very long time!! Also I like your setup a lot, it matches my taste. Grazie : )
Prego! happy you like my videos!
I make a really different kind of music but i find that you're the only one that has the approach im looking for !
grazie Emilio!
That's pretty much the same way, I do it. Different instruments and mixer of course. I even do the single sound recording afterwards, but most of the time I don't use them. I tried multitrack recording, but somehow that didn't feel right. What's came out always sounded so different then the stereo mix, resulting in a lot of work to get closer to the sound I actually wanted. So the stereo track recording for me is the better way. Even if you risk to have the perfect take performance wise but messed up volumes. You said you're doing around three takes. Sometimes I end up doing four to eight takes, but on the other side, sometimes the first one is just perfect. Thanks for the insight! Glad to see other musicians working that way!
I always feel that the first take is the best. It has the improvisation factor and the exploration or where you can go.
I’m a recent subscriber and have really been enjoying your videos. Your set up is clean without being sterile, very inspiring stuff. Your melodies are also just great, they hit that nice balance between tense, emotive and danceable. Good work ✌️
thanks for writing these beautiful words, really appreciated!
Really enjoyed this video and the previous also. Look forward to more and maybe some of your scientific approach to mixing/mastering. I work in stereo due to the limitations of my mixer and next time I am going to do as you have done here. Thank you for showing us the way.
ahah im sure some mastering engineer is looking for me to tech me alesson
thank you for taking us along your recording process! I'm using stereo recordings only, and now doubting to record all my instruments individual, but I think I will lose myself completely in the post production.. Maybe just get a better stereo audio-interface then haha
yeh its always a compromise but you need to follow what makes you produce good stuff!
Hi Oora, thanks for the video, really honest and very useful. I am a great fan of all your content, please keep on doing it!
Thank you very much!
Outstanding workflow. And great content again!
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you so much for your videos! Love the topics you share and also your way of explaining etc :-) would love to see a deeper dive into your mastering process sometime if the inspiration arises!
You got it!
Brilliant! Thanks for this ongoing education
My pleasure!
THANK YOU! There need to be more Videos like that about workflow for imtermediates instead of all those beginmer videos how this or that synth or synthesis method works
I would love to go more on that direction in the future!
Very interesting process, thank for sharing this.
Thank you! Cheers!
thank you for sharing this. i learn so much from you from each video.
Means a lot coming from you!
I would like to see you build off this track. It would be helpful to learn your process through to the finish of this track. You already inspired me for a new approach to recording with this video. Thank you.
Great! i think i will do that!
Yeah nice one, I record almost the same way, but you've given me extra inspiration.. cheers...
Cool, thanks!
another fantastic video ! amazing!
Thanks again!
Inspring. Well done!
thanks joel
Super nice mate! Stereo recordings for me too.
The best!
Nice one🎶🎶🎶🎹🎶🎶👌😉🎧
Thanks 🔥
Agree mate. I have direct outs. But a live performance always seems to sound more organic and way better to me. Harmonics created through the mixer bus just blend together in a way you just can't create from stems without loosin the magic.
Yes! it a compromise , of course, but somehow liberating.
love it man, awesome stuff
interesting approach
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for sharing, it was interesting and helpful 🙏🔥❤
Glad it was helpful!
thank you, it is really helpful, please keep doing this 👍
Thank you, I will
So nice man 👌🏻🤘🏻
Thank you 🙌
Another great video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Very nice tune. I want it.
Im gonna finish this tune probably in a next video :)
Awesome I have to revisit this subscribed
Welcome aboard!
100 % agree. For big precision and automation in the box is the way. For jamming: go stereo
definitely!
I must say...
.... I like your studio
I appreciate that!
hey, love watching how you craft a track.... can you possibly talk about how you mix from song to song to do a full set?
good idea, will do
I have a mixer with direct outs but I like to make stereo recordings so I can use the faders on the mixer.
Yes same for me
Nice demo 👍
Thanks! 👍
Thanks so much for this!
How often do you jam enough to lay down some ideas, then hit record? Or do you always hit record before you touch anything?
Depends, sometimes i like to just jam with no recording, I think is important to have some fun time with no expectations.
Nice spaceous and gluey!
thanks!
Great tut
thanks!
I would love to see how you arrange and build a track from this.
will see if i still have the recording
Grazie ! Having several channel inputs , you could or do you also record sometimes at ones all channels same time ?
not sure if i got the question right, but this mixer has only a stereo out, so i record all together most of the time!
@@OoraMusic grazie
Thanks! Would love some DAW arrangement/process videos. I'm working on an album using just the Model Cycles that only has a stereo out. Struggling to figure out and commit to a workflow. Any inspiration would be appreciated.
will definitely do something!
Great video man, highly educational, thanks a lot 🙏🏼 Where do you release your music?
Thanks Joris! this is my bandcamp. oora.bandcamp.com
Thanks man! this is exactly how I want to do it. 1 question: How do you make sure you can align the recorded stereotrack in your DAW to the time grid in the DAW? do you sent start/stop messages to your octatrack from the DAW? or do you drag the track to the grid later? no tempo problems when adding stuff in your DAW (like the rytm overbridge parts) later?
So, i just set the tempo in the daw as the same tempo on my octatrack. then later on i will move the recording to put it in grid but being the tempos matched is super eeasy!
Love these videos. What headphones are those...?
Audeze lcd2!
nice preview
Thanks!
How cool, kudos to you! When did you start producing your owm music?
Thanks! electronic usic i'd say 5 years ago!
Could i ask what stands you are using for the synths? Like the vermona.
they are all amazon laptop stands!
Cool
thanks!
In your dawless setups, what do you use to record audio?
mixer stereo out into UAD soundcard and ableton
What are you using to sequence this track? I really enjoy your music.
all my sequencing are made with Octatrack. And thanks!
Does anyone know what those Headphones are he is using just curious?
those are audeze lcd2
@@OoraMusic Cheers
❤️
Thanks!
Nice video but having trouble hearing the audio clearly. Maybe a lavalier mic would help?
THAT is a problem i had this time. Im so sorry for the lack of quality , Im working on it!
i tried to click "close" on your notification :D
:D
Nice keygen music :3
:)
Awesome video brother. Cans youre rocking? 🎧🎧😁✌🏻🙏🏻
those are Audeze lcd2 !
I may have missed it, but what is your audio interface to get the model 1 into your computer?
Universal audio Apollo 8
Consider Bitwig studio . Way better than Ableton and superb audio editing
I've been wondering about switching to Bitwig. Have had Ableton many years and it has never kept my interest long. Mostly using hardware now but I would like to do as is shown here... still on Ableton 9 so time to decide to upgrade or jump to Bitwig
@@Non-dw5lu i switched from ableton to Bitwig. It’s a bit the same you’ll learn it easy...
i know man, but just got live 11 and happy for now!
Great studio but sound like lack of soundproof
Its basically my apartment, no soundproofing yet.
Sarebbe utile , una masterclass pratica sull’arrangiamento pezzi ambient su UA-cam praticamente non ne esistono
Respect !
buona idea! ci penso su
@22:50 what did you do here? Did you chop up the whole recording and took certain parts?
yes, I choose some parts of the recordings and put them together