Tim Walz and JD Vance share their views on abortion during VP debate
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- November 2024 will mark the first U.S. presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned its landmark decision in Roe v. Wade that established a federal constitutional right to abortion. Watch Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Ohio Sen. JD Vance discuss the issue of reproductive rights during the CBS News vice presidential debate on Tuesday.
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Saying choice is important doesn't mean anything if that choice stops at the state level.
im suprised that this was the most normal debate since...obama and romney in 2012
JD, what have you done: Just one of his 36 bills has received a committee vote in Congress, with none yet enacted into law.
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
We need real media in the United States not fake news
FOX NEWS
Walz did a great job and covered all the important points. Great job !
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It's 3 against 1 as usual and Vance is still mopping the floor with Walz big time!
Least obvious rage bait
Are you kidding. He completely lied about Amber Thurman and you all are just eating it up. It's pathetic.
@@Crackpot_Astronaut the rage bait is getting out of hand
Walz showed Vance what a real VP candidate looks like!! Vance couldn't help but show why he has a low favorability rating. Vance needs a coach to help him emote sincerity because he comes across so plastic!
*”I’ve noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”* - Ronald Reagan
It’s none of your business. You don’t get the right to tell women what to do with their bodies.
@@Drualeaf nobody is telling anybody what to do with their body. That’s nothing but a meme. A woman has the right to choose who she gives her body to, whether or not to protect her body from pregnancy, and 100 more things before an abortion gets put on the table. Then when that does sorry a woman doesn’t have a right to tElL iT wHaT tO dO wItH iTs BoDy
Well he’s dead now
Probably the dumbest quote i have ever heard lmaooo
@@60BloodyChamp60 I don’t care what you have to say. You don’t get to choose what women do with their bodies. Bye!
What was with Vance's weird side-eye to the moderators throughout the debate? It was rude.
Why didn't the fact-checkers use AI to help the moderators ask better questions in real time? Vance's rhetoric would have him walking back statements constantly. Walz would have sailed through on the truth while empowering undecided voters to turn out. Unfortunately, CBS moderators, in trying not to seem biased, gave more time to Vance, treated him like they didn't want to be accused of being biased, and accepted nonanswers as answers. They did not force answers, they did not call him out, and they did not do their jobs to make sure the people knew Vance was lying. Instead, he was allowed to flood the zone with misinformation and disinformation, "calling out, 'Fire!', in a crowded theater", as if it were protected speech. Trump, the boy who lied wolf, cannot cry censorship, he is the wolf. The people who believe and elevate Trump's lies are the true threat to democracy. The lies are used to empower people to incite violence, to sow mistrust in our institutions, and to gaslight the gullible into a delusional false sense of reality, where critical thought has lost out to cognitive dissonance. Ohio chose freedom, and even there, Republican'ts tried to cheat the people. Their desire to control people, as if the people are slaves, is almost as disgusting as their fear mongering, end of days, bigoted rhetoric. Trump is old and suffering from dementia like Joe Biden on steroids or like Bill Clinton on an intern.
I would suggest that everybody here look up what a d&x is, or a partial-birth abortion.
Why? Nobody is having elective partial birth abortions. You're hung up on the medical terminology "abortion" but you're not thinking about it objectively at all.
You are absolutely right - "Intact dilation and extraction is a surgical procedure that terminates and removes an intact fetus from the uterus. an intact D&E can occur on a live fetus." And these people say they are so smart and educated and yet they know virtually nothing about any issue period. It's astonishing!
@@evhwolfgang2003
Respectfully, I don't think you've looked into this enough.
I'm not 'completely' pro life.
I'm not Christian.
I'm not black & white on this.
But there are things being lied about regarding late term abortions, and it's giving women a completely false idea about what actually is happening.
Most woman I know who have had abortions, live with shame and regret the rest of their lives, especially when they age and realize what they did, but nobody ever talks about that.
You are lying. Watch David daleiden's videos. Your talking points was debunked decades ago.
Men have no say in abortion …period
It starts in a man
Neither do women
@@bradleywong6446read that out loud, brain rot
But I thought men could get pregnant?
So you don't believe in state mandated child support?
Vance and Walz ought to team up and run for president and vice president themselves. Clearly, they’re more articulate than Trump and Harris, they spend less time insulting their opponents and aren’t afraid to agree on issues. I think they would do well in coming up with bipartisan solutions to the many problems facing our country. Trump should go play golf and Harris might want to expand on her culinary interests.
That’s been what everybody was trying to do before Trump, and why he won. That’s outadated crap that never got anywhere.
Vance is a religious extremist. Would never work.
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It's 3 against 1 as usual and Vance is still mopping the floor with Walz big time!
Boycott cbs don’t trust them anymore
But it's not your decision to tell any women what they should do not even the state
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It's 3 against 1 as usual and Vance is still mopping the floor with Walz big time!
Read a biology book.
@@michaelschaefer1904 if you wanna enforce an abortion ban, at least offer to pay for all expenses to enable childbirth, and adopt the newborn on the spot
sheesh say you just want to enforce christianity
She DID NOT die in "the journey back and forth" what the hell.
FFS, in a 6 minute clip he's already BS'ing and not being fact checked.
I'm so sick of this chicanery.
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It's 3 against 1 as usual and Vance is still mopping the floor with Walz big time!
First of all, don’t start throwing around ten dollar words in this comment section, most of us have GED’s FFS.
But, I’m sure when Tim said that, he was speaking verbatim, suggesting that her traveling back and forth, along with her miscarriage, probably contributed to her death. Not to mention, is that really a bombshell issue worth fact checking, cuz it just sounds so petty.
@@Notlikeus4039 TIM WALZ BLATANTLY LIED about the bill he signed, so I don't trust his story either. Look it up, JD Vance was telling the truth. Prior to 2023, Minnesota law required “reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice” to be taken to preserve the life and health of a born-alive infant resulting from an abortion (Minn. Stat. § 145.412). However, in May 2023, Governor Tim Walz signed a bill repealing this requirement, replacing it with a provision that only mandates “care” for the born-alive infant, without specifying what constitutes “care” or requiring medical professionals to take any specific actions to preserve the infant’s life.
@@Notlikeus4039
Um, yes. Of course lies are worth fact checking.
Also, you might have GED's, but you also have Google; I suggest you use it, rather than complaining about somebody else's vocabulary.
That being said: saying that a young woman died traveling "the journey back and forth" because she just "had to travel to another state for an abortion" is completely AND INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting what actually happened.
She died because the abortion pill is looked at like taking Tylenol and it was given to her WITHOUT all of the _should-be-necessary_ medical attention.
I'm not Christian.
I'm not a crazy pro-life advocate.
But the fact of the matter is that, if anything, she died because of how this country has began seeing abortion as something frivolous.
If we understood how serious an abortion is, _especially with twins,_ she would have been in a proper medical office and it would have been taken care of by an actual doctor.
But instead, everybody is just told that _'you can just take a pill' and ZOOP 'baby go bye-bye, no problem.'_
It's a serious medical procedure to remove another living being from your body.
So yeah, misrepresenting her death to lie about it being on the hands of people who actually want abortion to be taken seriously.. I think that's definitely worth fact checking.
But who knows, maybe that's just me.
@@Notlikeus4039
Um, yes. Of course lies are worth fact checking.
Also, you might have GED's, but you also have Google; I suggest you use it, rather than complaining about somebody else's vocabulary.
That being said: saying that a young woman died traveling "the journey back and forth" because she just "had to travel to another state for an abortion" is completely AND INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting what actually happened.
She died because the abrtion pill is looked at like taking TyIenoI and it was given to her WITHOUT all of the _should-be-necessary_ medical attention.
I'm not Chrstian.
I'm not a crazy pro-Iife advocate.
But the fact of the matter is that, if anything, she is no longer alive because of how this country has began seeing abrtion as something frivolous.
If we understood how serious it is, _especially with twins,_ she would have been in a proper medical office and it would have been taken care of by an actual doctor.
But instead, everybody is just told that _'you can just take a pill' and ZOOP 'baby go bye-bye, no problem.'_
It's a serious medical procedure to remove another living being from your body.
So yeah, misrepresenting her de4th to lie about it being on the hands of people who actually want abrtion to be taken seriously.. I think that's definitely worth fact checking.
But who knows, maybe that's just me.
Abortion vs healthcare are not the same!
Yes they are the same. Just like plastic surgery is healthcare.
@@jameysummers1577plastic surgery is not considered a “healthcare need” unless it is needed due to abnormalities from birth or injury. Plastic surgery in most cases are for those folks who are “vain”…in other words wanting to look younger, prettier, special. Most medical insurance companies will not pay for “vain” surgeries.
even so. if you wanna enforce an abortion ban, at least offer to pay for all expenses to enable childbirth, and adopt the newborn on the spot
sheesh say you just want to enforce christianity
@@pammckinney1752 Bruh... plastic surgery in general IS part of healthcare, google it. It's just that there are two different types of plastic surgeries, cosmetics and reconstruction, and only one of them is covered by health insurance. Why Walz is bringing in healthcare is because abortion, at a certain point, is a health issue for women who could die from giving child birth. Your reasoning is solely based on the the idea that the majority matters more than the minority, which supports the idea that there should be no medical support in that area because people are using the system wrongly. Not everyone is having plastic surgery for looks and abortions for their lack of safe sex, there are still people out there that need it to live, even if it's just one person. Plus, your first comment "Abortion vs Healthcare are not the same" doesn't make any sense because the "vs" means that they are against each other, not supporting your adjective. Next time, use the word "and" instead.
@@neiltristanyabutmost abortions are based on having sex and not wanting the child. Medical abortions are totally different. I myself had to choose between having my twins or have an abortion because of an illness during my pregnancy.
Great response vice president Walz
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Is that Tampon Tim?
Nice Job CBS, Liars
Incredible Vance says he wants people to trust him on the womens rights and medical care issue yet he stated repeatedly that he feels women without children have less stake in America and insinuated they should have less political say as a result. Yeah, that's the type of guy you can trust on this issue! Vile.
Yeah, he's a professional liar.
Well, Vance is right. people without children do not have to worry about bad policies affecting their children in 20 years. They are only focused on the now not the future. Yes, there are women and men that can't have children before you say it. Get hurt about it but it's the truth.
You're clearly misunderstanding.
@@NickAnderson357 If that is in fact accurate, then it's accurate that people don't care about the things that don't affect them and should have no say in those matters. And if that is in fact the case, then men should have no say at all in matters of women or their bodies (yes, including pregnancies, abortions, fertility etc.)
@@iluvpolarseltzer6972
..how does pregnancy and birth not affect the men?
If a man makes a baby but doesn't want to be a father, too bad; he's roped into child support and fatherhood to 'live up to his responsibilities.'
But if he WANTS to keep the child, he has no say?
That makes 0 sense.
Trump & Vance always talking what they looking into and concepts of plans they will look at but if they would have said we running project 2025 and been real , I could a lil respect for. But to lie and at the same time in suggest plausible deniability 😂 you got to be weird 😂😂😂
Margaret Brennan BROKE THE RULES-FACT CHECKED VANCE, BUT NOT WALZ
Just be quiet. Vance BS'd Walz did not.
What needed to be fact-checked with Walz?
The stories of those women?
Google!
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It's 3 against 1 as usual and Vance is still mopping the floor with Walz big time!
@@a51alias Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. He has finally admitted to lying about his DUI. He actually lies a lot, but the media is so biased that they give him a pass every time!
@@a51alias CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Vance killed it! Trump 2024!
if you wanna enforce an abortion ban, at least offer to pay for all expenses to enable childbirth, and adopt the newborn on the spot
sheesh say you just want to enforce christianity
Woman's right? I'm 100% for it. But what about baby's right to live?
If conservatives cared so much about babies they would stop voting for cutting funding for health care, housing, education, and food assistance.
if you wanna enforce an abortion ban, at least offer to pay for all expenses to enable childbirth, and adopt the newborn on the spot
sheesh say you just want to enforce christianity
Vance is a good liar! His comments about Jan 6 was pure gas lighting! Vance wrote the forward for Project 2025!
Walz won! He was serious, listed many examples of things they implemented in MN that worked to improve working people's lives, showed that Trump was responsible in the election denial & talked like a uniter not a divider! Vance was robotic & just regurgitated Trump rally routine for the most part! Vance was not straight forward & was too cagey!
Thats a ridiculous claim, you need to do some research before making random statements. He had nothing to do with it, the closest thing is that he wrote a bit for a different project for one of the guys that worked on project 2025... 😆
This is absolutely stupid to make these claims.
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. He has finally admitted to lying about his DUI. He actually lies a lot, but the media is so biased that they give him a pass every time!
After watching Waltz constantly looking down at his pad of papers, I don't think he's taking down notes. Rather or probably trying to draw a cartoon character of JD Vance.
Wish Waltz would focus the issue towards being pro-access to healthcare vs pro-women. More likely to entice the weirdos who dislike women.
Abortion fun facts: Intact dilation and extraction (D&E) is a surgical procedure that terminates and removes an intact fetus from the uterus in the second or third trimester. An intact D&E can occur on a live fetus as well. And these people say they are so smart and educated and yet they know virtually nothing about any issue period. It's astonishing!
JD Vance, Mind Your Own Damn Business!
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Never 👎🏿 walz
JD totally smoked Tampon Tim.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
@@tonedelectation3721 JD’s eyeliner looked so sick!!
Really owned him with that moniker
As a Minnesotans, JD Vance is correct on the Minnesota law. Walz is lying.
Walz lied through the whole thing!
Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. He has finally admitted to lying about his DUI. He actually lies a lot, but the media is so biased that they give him a pass every time!
Sick....Vance said it right here, amidst everything else he says here trying to suddenly sound reasonable and populist on this issue he throws in there that religious based hospitals shouldn't be required to provide certain forms of necessary medical care to women. I'm sure many folks didn't even catch it or at least stupidly don't register the significance of it, but that is such a HUGE illustration of the difference between the parties on this issue and of the ramifications if Repubs are permitted to continue to restrict womens access to healthcare.
CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Health care ? Is that the new word for abortion?
Abortion fun facts: Intact dilation and extraction (D&E) is a surgical procedure that terminates and removes an intact fetus from the uterus in the second or third trimester. An intact D&E can occur on a live fetus as well. And these people say they are so smart and educated and yet they know virtually nothing about any issue period. It's astonishing!
Ok, think of something you would never do and that it would go against ALL your beliefs and consciousness and tell me if you would do it? Now think about your statement and tell me how you would feel if your were forced to do it. Easy one: you obviously don't like Trump, would you vote for him if you were forced to?
The majority of women in the United States will NEVER FACE an unwanted or unhealthy pregnancy.
Abortion will never be an issue for the majority of women in the United States. I do hope the American voters will realize this is just a bate issue for the Democratic party to cover up all their many failures on inflation, immigration, and handling of world conflicts.
65 million abortions since 1973. Do the math.
Trump 2024🇺🇸
There’s an easier way to tell everybody you have a tiny brain.
username matches your IQ?
Vance crushed him
California for Donald J Trump 2024.MAGA.
You got a lot of company in CA, it’s just about making those more incremental changes. It starts with you and your friends. Stay strong.
🤣🤣🤣
She is such a hack and liar.
Nobody won
What a waste of time
JD slapped Walz and Kamala. And Biden.
Trump 2024 baby🇺🇲
Only one of them was in the room tonight, brain rot.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
@@joannapower5768 Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. He has finally admitted to lying about his DUI. He actually lies a lot, but the media is so biased that they give him a pass every time!
@@joannapower5768 CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
Well they’re both very worried and sympathetic towards women…and so am I…but I’m also a little worried about the babies. If women are going to get this much attention they should have this much accountability. And men.
What do you mean "this much attention?"
@@iluvpolarseltzer6972 CBS has failed to keep their word. They said there would be no fact checking - they lied! It was 3 against 1 as usual and Vance still mopped the floor with Walz big time!
💙🇺🇸
Abortion fun facts: Intact dilation and extraction is a surgical procedure that terminates and removes an intact fetus from the uterus. an intact D&E can occur on a live fetus. And these people say they are so smart and educated and yet they know virtually nothing about any issue period. It's astonishing!