I think MIH needs to not only get a damage increase overall, but it should also last the rest of the game rather than end after one round. Would make the reward worth it
Yeah but think of it like GER, GER is easier to pull off but is dependent on your bar whereas MiH is reliant on the timer (andbit barely speeds it up now). Both are really good but not unbeatable if you know what you're up against but MiH still slows the enemy down a little which can throw off combos (GER only buff Giorno but MiH does both)
It actually better that it last one round bc how fair would that be if it last the entire game plus ur supposed to use it when u need to win one more round to end the game easily
It’s much easier to get C-Moon now. While they should just let you start with it, they made it easier to mash the 14 words. MiH did get a slight speed boost since the update, but I feel like MiH should make the opponent at least a little slower.
Maybe last the rest of the game would be to much op, but I think the best change is allow Pucci players to do MiH transform unlimited times and not just once (like Golden Experience Requiem).
That Valentine was genuinely pretty impressive ngl I think Valentine players are a different breed of ASBR player because his damage is so low, so they just automatically learn the highest damage combos that he has
All Valentine has to do is call in another Pucci and get him close enough to our main Pucci, and even if Valentine was destined to lose to Pucci, he may be able to do what Emporio did and trick Pucci into killing himself by having him change fate.
I think they'd be at a standstill. Love train prevents Pucchi from attacking Valentine, however counterattacks against Pucchi are meaningless due to the speed of MiH. Universe reset would be useless since- again- standstill would mean neither of them dies and now Valentine knows exactly what happens in the future and how to get all corpse parts asap. MiH couuuuld counter it by taking the corpse parts beforehand due to him being excluded from fate but Johnny is destined to find jesus, get Tusk, etc so *major* changes would need to occur which in the end would make Valentine and Pucchi never square off anyway.
if you want a little pucci cheese after his stand on light medium heavy you can use the circle version its mine grab to get someone if they weren't expecting it
Nah there’s no way Bc even with the complete attack nullification of Love Train, Valentine can’t really do anything that would damage Pucci. Eventually Pucci would win because the moment D4C leaves the light, Pucci one shots it
so it seems like less of a nerf and more of a rework, its no longer lore accurate but its also not an instant win con. the fact that the timer no longer speeds up is pretty nice so you can actually use MIH now instead of the game clocking out abruptly
Don't really like it, to be honest, the point of MiH was to be a win-con that was really hard to pull off, making it so that Pucci players had to juggle fighting off their opponent and working towards getting it, and it was very rewarding, but now it's not really worth it since you can just use C-moon instead and MiH becomes just a gimmick rather than a legitimate win-condition.
Dude's out here starting the vid post-opening with the best Smash Bros Melee song. 😎Best vid. Nah, but fr, great combos on all sides this was great! As for the nerf, ngl, I kinda like it more. Sure, the original was more canon, but I honestly think giving the enemy a fighting chance, and not having the timer sped up so the round ends in a matter of seconds makes fighting MiH way more fun, since you have more time to actually do it. But all that said, great vid as always Reek! Keep up the great work!👍
I went against that ExpectMeToSell guy the other day. Got my ass handed to me while he was playing Yuya, but you made him look like how I probably did fighting him.
would you ever consider doing tutorial videos? also valentine beats pucci. with love train is a given, but even without it he can just keep throwing more valentines into the fight and outlast him
How in the hell is he gonna outlast pucci. He absolutely gets clapped without love train and only stalls with it. He ain’t d hopping before pucci claps his ass not to mention those fucking valentines are regular ass people. This is like 1 billion lions vs the sun. There’s only two stands pucci always loses and those are GER and WoU
i think that if it’s whitesnake pucci vs base valentine valentine would for sure win but if it’s MIH pucci vs D4C Love Train Pucci would win bc as soon as D4C would leave the pocket dimension MIH would instantly kill him or it would be waited out until the universe reset and pucci would kill him bf he got to love train
I get why time isn’t faster anymore, but why did they get rid of slowmotion? That is what made MIH worth it. Even without the juggles, the opponent lag frames mean that they can only win if they don’t make any mistakes
I’ve actually done my research on this for pucci vs funny valentine. It more likely that pucci would win :edit that’s if pucci knows where the danger is
@@GeorgeWockington01 What most people didn't know is that Pucci can chose his speed up time to affect living things, in the Manga when his stand was evolving to C-moon, he accidentally made a baby turn half his body into an old man (in the manga it was changed to baby chickens). Pucci didn't used it against the gang on part 6 because he didn't need it (he was way too strong already) and / or because it went against his principals, but if he can use this against valentine, i don't think Love Train would protect him there
@@EXFrost Pucci can literally camp in front of love train and starve valentine to death, all this while teabagging in front of him and eating sushi. Not to mention that his speed up can affect living things if he wants to, as chosen in the manga, so i don't know how love train would protect him there
If Pucci and Valentine fought, Valentine would win IF AND ONLY IF he has Love Train. Without Love Train, Pucci can easily kill Valentine with any of his three Stands.
I think Valentine could eventually find a AU version of Pucci that also has MIH, and make them either run into each other or just flat out kill each other. After all, there are infinite AUS for him to go to. This is a pretty big reach though.
Being completely honest, every time I get MiH, I lose. I can play great with Whitesnake and C-Moon, but for whatever reason, MiH just throws me off. Do you have any tips for getting better with MiH?
Idk what devs of this fan mod on asb doing with its balance... I hope when official remaster comes out they do something interesting with original Pucci
Okuyasu is the best character in my opinion, he has one of the easiest move list and he’s easy to demolish people as long as you know okuyasu is kinda slow
I know how they can buff this but make it fair. Give it to him both rounds, you can equally fight back now. Only fair for the pucci mains honestly. It's his crutch.
pucci vs valentine in anime if pucci was using whitesnake he would get folded but put up a good fight. Cmoon, well valentine would keep making clones of himself everytime he dies it'll be impossible for cmoon to kill funny valentine. Made in heaven, no chance after what pucci did to jotaro, before funny valentine could even go to a alternate dimension to revive himself pucci would've already killed him
@@ryuzakikun96 I think I’m the og Game he could actually move during erased time while the enemy finished their attack animation, without hit boxes of course
I really like this change. It always annoyed me why the opponents are in slow motion. Like, thats not what MiH does, it speeds up Pucci. That doesn't have anything to do with others being slower than they are. They should have added maybe one more special attack, because MiH has only 3.
Reek i think taht like this is more like in the anime cause like people or objects dont fall slow but fast as and even pucci is fast af Thank you for the video I would like never be able to found that out until i would have played pucci and then be like😢😢 Support for tha boiiiii❤️❤️❤️❤️
I think MIH needs to not only get a damage increase overall, but it should also last the rest of the game rather than end after one round. Would make the reward worth it
Yeah but think of it like GER, GER is easier to pull off but is dependent on your bar whereas MiH is reliant on the timer (andbit barely speeds it up now). Both are really good but not unbeatable if you know what you're up against but MiH still slows the enemy down a little which can throw off combos (GER only buff Giorno but MiH does both)
It actually better that it last one round bc how fair would that be if it last the entire game plus ur supposed to use it when u need to win one more round to end the game easily
It’s much easier to get C-Moon now. While they should just let you start with it, they made it easier to mash the 14 words. MiH did get a slight speed boost since the update, but I feel like MiH should make the opponent at least a little slower.
@@hydra_drizz2164 it’d be fair because new mih sucks ass
Maybe last the rest of the game would be to much op, but I think the best change is allow Pucci players to do MiH transform unlimited times and not just once (like Golden Experience Requiem).
This nerf was not needed
It was already a challenge to get to C-Moon (at least for me) and nerfing Pucci was not needed
I think it works great. It makes MiH more fair than how Vanilla ASB was. Kinda wish you kept him the whole match though
@@schizophrenicsnowman3226 but MIH is an ultimate, it doesn’t need to be fair. There is almost no point to going in MIH now since no slowmo.
@@manpersonz9044 Pucci is still fast
Meaning he has faster recovery
A lot a special moves won't be able to connect after LMH
@@manpersonz9044 nvm it's not worth I just saw reeks get handed
@@Lava_Lazy Yeah. C moon is better than MiH in every way now. At least before it used to sometimes guarantee a win. Now you cannot even do that.
imagine if in the next update pucci pulls out his rappin' skills and says all 14 baby words in a second
Reek is literally the best ASBR content creator
I try my best lol
That Valentine was genuinely pretty impressive ngl I think Valentine players are a different breed of ASBR player because his damage is so low, so they just automatically learn the highest damage combos that he has
All Valentine has to do is call in another Pucci and get him close enough to our main Pucci, and even if Valentine was destined to lose to Pucci, he may be able to do what Emporio did and trick Pucci into killing himself by having him change fate.
I think they'd be at a standstill.
Love train prevents Pucchi from attacking Valentine, however counterattacks against Pucchi are meaningless due to the speed of MiH. Universe reset would be useless since- again- standstill would mean neither of them dies and now Valentine knows exactly what happens in the future and how to get all corpse parts asap.
MiH couuuuld counter it by taking the corpse parts beforehand due to him being excluded from fate but Johnny is destined to find jesus, get Tusk, etc so *major* changes would need to occur which in the end would make Valentine and Pucchi never square off anyway.
if you want a little pucci cheese after his stand on light medium heavy you can use the circle version its mine grab to get someone if they weren't expecting it
Yes it’s even work when the guy use the guard
Nah that's too slow. 2L > 2L > 214L is better especially after grounded 3H crumple while in stand on.
2:41 bro did a jump in lvl 3 GHA💀💀💀
I watched enough of his videos to know he was going to try to pull something 😂
I think Love Train would just not let Pucci do anything, but idk what Valentine could do to Pucci other than pulling in other Pucci's to help him
Yeah my thinking was along those lines as well, ultimately Valentine would win but it would take so fucking long
I mean I don’t think love train fully covers FV it’s just a wall that pucci could go around
@@foshnchip8084 "Could go around" you clearly don't know how Love Train works
@@foshnchip8084 it’s literally a beam of light that Valentine travels around in. It doesn’t work like a wall, it’s a pocket dimension
Nah there’s no way Bc even with the complete attack nullification of Love Train, Valentine can’t really do anything that would damage Pucci. Eventually Pucci would win because the moment D4C leaves the light, Pucci one shots it
that funny valentine is insane
Bro I wish they would let you play on the MiH stage regularly, btw great video
so it seems like less of a nerf and more of a rework, its no longer lore accurate but its also not an instant win con. the fact that the timer no longer speeds up is pretty nice so you can actually use MIH now instead of the game clocking out abruptly
Don't really like it, to be honest, the point of MiH was to be a win-con that was really hard to pull off, making it so that Pucci players had to juggle fighting off their opponent and working towards getting it, and it was very rewarding, but now it's not really worth it since you can just use C-moon instead and MiH becomes just a gimmick rather than a legitimate win-condition.
Dude's out here starting the vid post-opening with the best Smash Bros Melee song. 😎Best vid.
Nah, but fr, great combos on all sides this was great! As for the nerf, ngl, I kinda like it more. Sure, the original was more canon, but I honestly think giving the enemy a fighting chance, and not having the timer sped up so the round ends in a matter of seconds makes fighting MiH way more fun, since you have more time to actually do it.
But all that said, great vid as always Reek! Keep up the great work!👍
I went against that ExpectMeToSell guy the other day. Got my ass handed to me while he was playing Yuya, but you made him look like how I probably did fighting him.
That new intro is fire
would you ever consider doing tutorial videos? also valentine beats pucci. with love train is a given, but even without it he can just keep throwing more valentines into the fight and outlast him
How in the hell is he gonna outlast pucci. He absolutely gets clapped without love train and only stalls with it. He ain’t d hopping before pucci claps his ass not to mention those fucking valentines are regular ass people. This is like 1 billion lions vs the sun. There’s only two stands pucci always loses and those are GER and WoU
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i think that if it’s whitesnake pucci vs base valentine valentine would for sure win but if it’s MIH pucci vs D4C Love Train Pucci would win bc as soon as D4C would leave the pocket dimension MIH would instantly kill him or it would be waited out until the universe reset and pucci would kill him bf he got to love train
I get why time isn’t faster anymore, but why did they get rid of slowmotion? That is what made MIH worth it. Even without the juggles, the opponent lag frames mean that they can only win if they don’t make any mistakes
I’ve actually done my research on this for pucci vs funny valentine. It more likely that pucci would win :edit that’s if pucci knows where the danger is
Nah valentine could just camp in the live train forever because he can swap bodies and pucci would either starve or get to old
@@GeorgeWockington01 What most people didn't know is that Pucci can chose his speed up time to affect living things, in the Manga when his stand was evolving to C-moon, he accidentally made a baby turn half his body into an old man (in the manga it was changed to baby chickens).
Pucci didn't used it against the gang on part 6 because he didn't need it (he was way too strong already) and / or because it went against his principals, but if he can use this against valentine, i don't think Love Train would protect him there
@@GeorgeWockington01 I think he would be smart enough to not attack and to just keep on accelerating to reset
@@Scirnoye but how would the reset help him beat valentine lmao
@@EXFrost Pucci can literally camp in front of love train and starve valentine to death, all this while teabagging in front of him and eating sushi.
Not to mention that his speed up can affect living things if he wants to, as chosen in the manga, so i don't know how love train would protect him there
If Pucci and Valentine fought, Valentine would win IF AND ONLY IF he has Love Train. Without Love Train, Pucci can easily kill Valentine with any of his three Stands.
I think Valentine could eventually find a AU version of Pucci that also has MIH, and make them either run into each other or just flat out kill each other. After all, there are infinite AUS for him to go to. This is a pretty big reach though.
As long a it isn't EOH Valentine
Seeing this man pop up in my sub box makes me so happy fr.
Imo, I think C-Moon is cooler looking than MIH, but Whitesnake tops both of their styles
clean made in heaven gameplay. Good Job Reek
Thank you Jinxed!
I just found the perfect made in heaven counter, Killer Queen third bomb Bites the Dust!
Yep it basically cancels mih lol
@@Reekeyy I was surprised to find that out because I was genuinely curious about that so I tried it out in practice mode, thinking it wouldn't work.
You can hold down the button while chanting to keep going longer
OMG, the Calebcity music against the Okuyasu got me xD !
8:15 holy sht my dude got no chill fr
i was the kira, i played so bad cuz i was nervous and just started playing again😭 ggs tho had fun
Being completely honest, every time I get MiH, I lose. I can play great with Whitesnake and C-Moon, but for whatever reason, MiH just throws me off. Do you have any tips for getting better with MiH?
I wish they updated the stand auras and sound effects to match the anime. They already got the anime VCs and colors so why not just go all out?
I agree. The same yellow aura for all the stands are bland lol
@@Reekeyy and it seems like something that could be easily added
Okuyasu like one of my favorite characters to play outside of Heaven Pucci and DIO
Idk what devs of this fan mod on asb doing with its balance... I hope when official remaster comes out they do something interesting with original Pucci
Who’s need heaven when you can having short and high damage combo,2 umblocable,a good counter,additional damage??
How do you access this character on switch. Only the white snake version appears on the roster.
Okuyasu is the best character in my opinion, he has one of the easiest move list and he’s easy to demolish people as long as you know okuyasu is kinda slow
6:58 lol
road to 25k!!!
They at least should’ve made it that u keep him the whole match
"hesitation is defeat".
how do you do the 3H to 5M, 3H its so dificult, link this with the 2M, 3M is impossible
make a video with your combos for pucci please, the one that have in youtube suck
Is it still possible to get this DLC?
That okayasu was scary lmao
That Dodge on Okayasu would make me rage quit ngl
The flag dimension is actually crazy
the mih nerf is ahs i once did a lvl 560 dmg with old mih before the nerf but now its nearly impossible
That dbfz music 🔥 tho
Ayee someone noticed! Good man 😎
That jolyne at the end...I want to be as good as that person 😭
Man I love watching these videos and I love asbr I just can’t get better at it 😭 if I was I’ll love the game like 10x more
MIH needs a buff. Like fast. There's no point in going for it anymore. Too much risk for a basic install super that only lasts a round.
What happened to the old intro it was to🔥🔥💯 be cool😂
MiH no longer speeds up time 💀
I know how they can buff this but make it fair. Give it to him both rounds, you can equally fight back now. Only fair for the pucci mains honestly. It's his crutch.
pucci vs valentine in anime if pucci was using whitesnake he would get folded but put up a good fight. Cmoon, well valentine would keep making clones of himself everytime he dies it'll be impossible for cmoon to kill funny valentine. Made in heaven, no chance after what pucci did to jotaro, before funny valentine could even go to a alternate dimension to revive himself pucci would've already killed him
Rohan Next Fr 🙏🙏
You gotta pick up valentine again fr!!
Wait
So they have Pucci with White Snake
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And then Pucci with White Snake C-Moon and MiH???? Just do C-Moon and MiH for the second one
Just like with Diavolo, they ruined the accuracy of the ability to the canon but I guess it is what it is:/
How did Diavolo use to work?
@@ryuzakikun96 I think I’m the og Game he could actually move during erased time while the enemy finished their attack animation, without hit boxes of course
Bro idk what it is but I never get any matches on this game bro maybe it’s bc I have an older console
I hear that Xbox has a harder time than other consoles when it comes to finding a match
@@Reekeyy bro what💀, I appreciate that information though. I guess I’ll be buying a ps5 soon
It may be easier to find matches now that they put the game on Xbox game pass.
i was slow juggling someone today is something wrong with my game
With this nerf i think pucci should start the match with c moon
C noon still may be a bit too broken to start off with. He has all those unblockable and super armor moves
@@Reekeyy yeah thats true but mih is too weak now
Hi! Can you try and play Ikuro? He is in my opinion really good.
for me its easier to defeat made in heaven than cmoon
bro finally met his match i swear anytime im watching a vid of yours your clapping tf out the opponet😭
I absolutely despise part 7 but i gotta give that dub to valentine.
I really like this change. It always annoyed me why the opponents are in slow motion. Like, thats not what MiH does, it speeds up Pucci. That doesn't have anything to do with others being slower than they are. They should have added maybe one more special attack, because MiH has only 3.
he still my main n he didnt show what he can really do
good
I liked the old mih a lot more.
HIM basically been deleted he’s just C-moon pucci now 😭 HIM is so weak
I think they ruined it, the concept was so cool now made in heaven is probably weaker than c-moon 😓
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Reek i think taht like this is more like in the anime cause like people or objects dont fall slow but fast as and even pucci is fast af
Thank you for the video
I would like never be able to found that out until i would have played pucci and then be like😢😢
Support for tha boiiiii❤️❤️❤️❤️
Got into halfway point and subbed again.
But now I'm unsubbed! So weird, man.
hol horse is dead XD you never play with him lol
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The only nerf is the fact that your opponent has the same amount of speed as you.
Other than that learn some combos bruh.
I actually like the tweaking they did to mih