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Cheap audio man! I know you have communications with fosi... I'm not sure if you'd like this idea, but when building a home theater system, what might be nice is having a 3 channel amp like emotiva builds, but from fosi! I think that would be very exciting instead of doing 3 monoblocks or something. Have the receiver do all the surround speakers otherwise.
The wireless digital input is for a bluetooth module (sold separately because.. bluetooth gets regularly upgraded... and you can then swap it) as an owner of it for the last 2 years.. it's really fantastic ! sounds really nice accurate but stil on the warm side I really love it! (yeah yeah it's taste)
I have an aversion to excessive treble. So it’s been hard to find an amp I like. The A10 is not harsh. Easy to listen to. It’s not clinical or transparent. But it’s not “tubey” either. Just good non-fatiguing sound signature. Hope that helps. I done looking now that I found the A10. Bought it through Just Audio. Free shipping and great customer service.
@@MrCambo5150 thanks for the reply, that could be perfect for my requirements. Do the vocals roll of nicely ? My ears are super sensitive to bright highs and treble and find anything on the nuetrual side of sound to be very fatiging. Do you have the lintons on stands ? Also do you have any DAC or phono with your set up ?
OK, so this episode is the "Value Audioman." I know that you're going to have people unsubscribe over this one, but as someone that used to subscribe to Audiophile magazine just to drool over every issue I appreciate where you're coming from. Keep up the good work.
Love this. I am still in the broke/vintage stage (Pioneer SX-780), but I won't be broke forever. My next upgrades will be from Schiit. Then, finally, this A10. Looks great. For turntables I'm aiming for the Michell you like. Thank you!
I was fortunate enough to find one used for $1500. It is only 4 months old. With packaging. So I grabbed it right away. I have to tell you that it is a real piece of equipment. And when you keep in mind of everything it has built in, then it is a bargain. Really does sound great and it looks classy. Wife even likes it.
Hey Randy I am now listening to your review through my Advance Paris pre - power combo (x-preamp & xa-160). They're driving the Monitor Audio Silver 300 7g's. I am very happy with the functionality of the preamp (similar to A10) and of course thw power of the XA160 (160watts per channel) Pretty good value brand. And they also have many many products, including monoblock amps etc. It is nice that you covered European products. We have many of these here in Greece 😅😅
It really is a beautiful amp. Advance Paris is a renowned French company. All their products have this special look. BTW, it is currently on sale in Germany for 1500 Euros, including taxes.
Well, I pulled the trigger and have to wait till March, but my order's in and I'm more excited than Ive been in a long time about a new audio purchase like this. Thanks for bringing this bad boy to my attention.
That amp looks fantastic and it has a sweet mix of retro style and modern features/connectivity. From where I sit, the A10 is a no brainer if one has a 2.5K budget for their amp. I've owned a Yamaha A-S1200 for the last few years. My Yammie is a sweet amp, but I would love to audition one of these. Fortunately I bought my Yammie during COVID and scored it for 1.9K, or I'd really feel bad. One retro advantage for my A-S, the silver faceplate and yellowish glowing VU meters are the ticket if ya wanna be authentically 70s 😄
I don't know some could argue your Yamaha is a better AMP in terms of quality and longevity/sound. Yea this looks very nostalgic but are you splitting hairs. No offense but not every thing the cheap audio man recommends comes out as better.
@@Ed-sh8jt Ya, I have no interest in parting with my Yamaha, but if this was out when I was buying it would have gotten a very hard look. I scored a great deal on my Yamaha, the full 3K MSRP for it would have been too much if I was aware of this as an option at the time I was buying. My last Yamaha (an A700) lasted me for 35 years, so I doubt I will be in the market for amps again in my lifetime 😆
Great review as always Randy! 2500 bucks is alot, but I get it. This thing might be worth it. Take care and keep up the good work cause me and the rest of the world love it❤️🇸🇪
Great review Randy! As an owner of both a McIntosh pre and power amp (separates) this sounds very intriguing to me! It looks great and by your estimation sounds great! This looks like it would be right up my alley if I was in the market for a new integrated amplifier. It would be one of the first on my list to check out! Hope you and your family have great New Year!
Loved the video…first thing I thought myself was Randy cleaned up his office and it must’ve made a difference because your positive attitude was through the roof….😊
@@Harrisongrey19, trash?? Ha ha ha, you have no idea what you are talking about, come down to earth and listen to this amplifier - it is absolutely outstanding! If you can't hear it, you're not an audiophile, just a wannabe, period!
The MA-5300 is a direct coupled design amplifier from McIntosh. It doesn't have the autoformers like a traditional McIntosh amplifier. I owned the predecessor, the MA-5200 for a short while. To my ears, it lacked fullness that my Cambride Audio CXA-80 at the time featured. I ended up selling the MA-5200 within a few months of purchase. Since that time, I've only used autoformer-based amps from McIntosh - 4 total to be exact. I've appreciated the flexibility in selecting my own pre-amp to pair with the McIntosh power amplifier. The down-sides? The autoformer-based McIntosh amplifiers can weight 90 - 130 Lbs., or more. Once you get them in place, you don't tend to move them very often.
@@4arocker I would have bought separates if I could, and may at some point in the future. For me, this was a giant step up from my Yamaha AS801, which originally cost about the same as the sales tax on the MA5300. I am happy with it right now.
@@mrk8212 - Quite a few of us have been in audio for a long time. When it came to the McIntosh power amps, I've bought used each time. They last. One can get a used McIntosh power amplifier with autoformers for the $3,000 - $4,000 range. Just use a cheaper pre-amplifier in the begging until you can afford the preamplifier that you want. This ensures you can buy your way into some great gear. Even some DACs in the under-$500 range feature preamplifier capabilities.
Just got a new pair of natural cherry Klipsch Cornwall IVs and have been driving them with my Luxman R-117/M-117/M-113 system which sounds really good. BUT this model is VERY intriguing since a McIntosh MA375 (tube and solid state) or a MA5300 is on my radar in the next 6 months. But this "lively presentation" has made me into a fan and I actually like the meters and it has a cool design. Just upgraded my home theater amp from a Marantz SR5015 to a Anthem MRX540 (way better), but the Advance Paris A10 could be my one stop shop. Good video- Rock on! 😎
This is LOVELY!! I will need to do a little more research, but more than likely, it WILL become part of a second vinyl system for me!! THANK YOU RANDY!!!
You get the amp for a general average of 1500€ here in Germany. If you look around you might reach a grand . For that price it looks cool and sounds great
I saw this and its price and was happy this company understands that all audio enthusiasts are not made of money. I really like its looks (most definitely love its looks) and specs. I've never compared it to McIntosh as it looks better. And it may sound better but that's up to the listener. I wish it wasn't called a A10 as I owned a beast of a integrated amp called the Onkyo A10, built like an anvil. I wish they offered it in a full analog version, without all the digital amenities, as it would be half the cost, and I'd be able to repair it when it dies. Love the tube preamp and SS driver and power section. Not interested in Class D so this does meet a lot of my criteria. And if it sounds good, it's worth the price they're asking for it. My issue is I hv some amazing sounding vintage equipment. So I'd really be buying it to step into the 21st century and enjoy its power and its digital convenience features. A remote is a plus too. Even though I may not buy one now, I'll be watching Advance Paris as there's not much for me to get excited about these days in two channel audio, but this is a cool product for sure.
Randy, you are Da-Bomb when it comes to unearthing hi-value high-end audio products at a wide range of prices! As compelling as the A10 is, the all-in-ones on the AP website are even more so, which explains why most of this product type are sold out. The next Eversolo with high quality amplification...?
I have just two things to say. Firstly, I have a McIntosh MC 2205 Amplifier that I bought at a yard sale and this A10 with its Black VU windows with blue numbers looks nothing like it. Secondly, look at your big fancy office with racks of fresh new components to review, accolades adorning the walls and sexy mood lighting. When I subscribed, your office was your kitchen table decorated with the coffee mug of the day. So glad I could be around for the growth of the channel. Thank you for all of the great content.
Don’t need or want a cheap DAC incorporated to any amp Source is King in resolution so a stand alone reference DAC with a Fosi integrated with sub out will stomp it 🎉😊🎶
I am so on the fence on taking the next step to a new integrated amplifier. This and your follow up video is making me almost pull the trigger. I appreciate your input.
Be sure to pick up your amp in Paducah! Easy hop from Paris via I-57 and also accessible by riverboat. Great downtown riverfront scene. And the food!!!
I would not hesitate to bet all my gear and record collection and everything audio I have that this Advanced Paris unit is better built than today's McIntosh gear, hands down. I have heard and touched plenty of McIntosh gear from vintage to up to 8 years ago and can say without concern that the vintage McIntosh gear is well made and the recent and new stuff, you would be lucky to have it two years before it starts literally falling apart. Sure, it sounds great, but it doesn't last. McIntosh was far better built back in the day. Today, it is just a name, a shell of what it once was. They build cheap now! It is all about the dollar! It is just a name now.
I own a A10 Classic. I ve been listening this amp for 2 years with jbl l100 Classic. Great great Amp. Warm sound for sure, and can easily drive lot of speakers. Very beautiful too. But please, mcintosh is on another level. Go listen both. You will understand what i said. For the money anyway i personally raccomand it
I recently bought the Avance Paris A 10 Classic and to make it complete the x9 cd planet with tubes in the end stage Sounds great with my Infinity Kappa Renaissance Classic 90 and the Infinity Kappa 7 3 way. Nice detailed sound stage wich is huge. I already am addicted to it. Also nice with the Eversolo DMP 6 dac I hooked on.
Very awesome, very! Price not too outta control at all. They should go for the home run and sell this thing with JUST the power amp section, charge half the price ; )
Wow! This amp has really peaked my interest. All I can wish for now is that some of the other audio reviewers that I "trust" could get their hands on one of these beauties and offer their take. Yes, it does have a look... agreed. I'd be really interested in the inner construction but that's me... most will not care. I've always loved the Yamaha's whereby speakers can be A, B, or AB. This amp (according to their website) offers just that. (Nice!!). They also offer a model down (cheaper) that also looks pretty. Gonna be watching for more reviews. Thank you ... most intriguing review in a long long time.
. The interior pictures come up easily with a google image search. I LQQKed and maybe you'll reply back with the same observation I made abut this Advance Paris A10 Classic.
Thanks, had a look. Inner construction looks busy and a bit odd. Now, I am not an electrical engineer so keep that in mind. The toroid transformer is mounted on its side - never seen that before and it is awfully close to one of the heat sinks. Other than that it is really hard to determine what quality capacitors etc that they use. I do not like the inner layout on this amp but the A12 is another story - looks much better but again, I'd like a real engineer to look at these amps. Yes, the view meters are a nice touch but in no way give better sound or indicate quality construction. Now, if you want to talk about quality construction take a look at the 2 Kinki integrated(s) or ANY Hegel. Did I mention Schiit?? Now, they make some very good audio "stuff" at very good price points. @@TriAmpHiFi
@@charlesclifton1006 . Well, you certainly did your homework. Usually what we want to see in a classic Type A/B amplifier is that big copper doughnut and beer can sized filter capacitors. Old school. For an extreme comparison, DuckDuckGo search a "Bryston 28B³ Mono Block Power Amp". In the picture of the Advance Paris A10 Classic, there seems to be missing those terrific "caps". Their importance comes into play, for example, in repetitive rhythmic low frequency beats. Every time that kick drum hits, there is a higher power demand than for, let's say cymbals. It's those caps that give us a bank of instantaneous reserve, which moves woofers. I'm no EE either, so perhaps there is a topology at work here I don't recognize but since we are hobbyists, it's worth noting. Perhaps someone else could chime in and tell us why this Advance Paris A10 Classic has been "Decapitated". Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
I used to own an advance acoustic (the old brand name of advance Paris) maa405. Loved it for its sound quality but it was always humming. Not on the channels but the massive power transformer. Listening at very low levels wasn’t much pleasure. Normal and high levels was pure pleasure. And that is the difference to a McIntosh. You get what you pay for. Never experienced humming on a Mc. I also had the chance to listen to this bad boy here. It’s better than what I used to own, it’s really cool looking and I enjoyed listening to it and watched the uv meters with a big smile on my face. You get something awesome here but it just looks a little like a McIntosh. It isn’t one. A Mc is a Mc. But the A10 is still worth every penny. By the way… in Europe that thing is sold way cheaper… a price around 1.7k is not unusual. Plus shipping it should be still a bargain for you guys in the US. 😅
@@michelerallo9982 I heard it at the shop. There was noise around anyway. There was some noticeable humming. Way less than with the MA but it was there. I would say in a quiet private environment it might pop up at an acceptable level. Not sure but it’s my guess.
That’s a nice looking amp! I have a McIntosh MC7300. It came out about 1991. I got it in 2012 restored for $2000. The main advantage of a Mac is that you can still get parts for them, and they pretty much last forever, and they keep going up in value. I probably can’t afford a Mac today, so if I didn’t already have one, I would probably get one of those that you just reviewed. Will you be able to get parts for it 30 years from now? I doubt it, but I’ll be dead by then.
There's a great channel called Alpha Audio and they have recorded, very long session comparing the A10 to other amps around the same price. Also the A12, which is the one I ended up buying and no regrets. It really is something else, they do have some great products.
As a long time high end dealer, I don't consider bettering McIntosh a terribly difficult feat, if your interest is sound. When I sold my store some years ago I stayed for a while and was forced to go to Mac school. Horrible. They told us they don't listen to designs, just measure, sales trainer said the only sound he cares about is the cash register and we were told how to do rigged demos. Very impressed. Stuff looks great, lots done in house, high build quality but I don't like the way it sounds (for the money) and I despise the company. My main lines had been Levinson, back in the day (Dealer of the Year at one point), Audio Research, Classe, VTL, etc.
Adcom just released a preamp-amp bundle for just over $2500, offering 200 W/ch of class AB power into 8 ohms. It should compete head to head with the Advance Paris A-10.
A very interesting and affordable integrated / at the price, not out of range at all. And to be able to switch to class A bias? An amazing product! Definitely looking at the website and just may buy it.
I think you just sold a bunch of these. I'll definitely be looking up more info on it. It's gorgeous and has all the features and connections I'm looking for.
I hope they make a stripped down version with all the same amp/preamp parts but without all the I/O .. Just need XLR combi jack, USB/ARC and optical. $1500. Keep the 2 subs and crossover tho. Even one set of speaker outs would be enough but doubles would be nice for that price.
I saw your review while looking for an amp. I was at that point looking into the Choko Emei and the Unison Research Unico Primo. After seeing your review I decided to buy the Advance Paris A10 blind (no possibility to listen to it). I got it from Amazon Germany for 1524 euro (under 1500 dollars). I am absolutely blown away by this amp. Huge improvement over my Rotel, which I always thought was a very good and reliable amp. Huge soundstage, great improvement in the bass, much easier on the ears (far less listening fatigue), sweet midrange and highs, excellent instrument separation. One thing I noticed, as well, is that it made me want to listen to and enjoy CDs after a very long time (I was listening almost exclusively to vinyl before). This thing SINGS (running it on high bias mode), and it has a ton more connectivity than the other two amps I was considering, and a ton of power for my KEF LS 50s. So, thank you very much. I have never bought a component based on a single review before this, but this little monster deserves very high praise. And Advance Paris owes you😊
I do home theater exclusively so I plan to buy a 7ch amp (OSD or Outlaw) that does 130wpc all channels driven. They both are less than half the price of this featured amplifier.
The only spec I've found that matters is total harmonic distortion (I could be wrong). Best amp I ever heard had a THD of 0.005%. My Yamaha has a better than most THD of 0.05%. This one has a THD of 0.1. This is why I'd need to hear it because for less money you can get a LEAK Stereo 230 with a THD of 0.002% or the NAD C 3050 with a THD of 0.005%. I'd love to hear a review of a comparison of those with the A10.
After looking at their site, I’m more interested in the X-A160 EVO power amp at 2k. Has the same Class A Bias ability. Already invested in separates, now if I could only go listen to one.
IMHO wise implementation of technology and solid engineering is tantamount. It appears the A10 has it in spades and I would love the opportunity to give it a listen. As a Mcintosh owner, one of my biggest beefs is you spend so much money and on certain models like the MA5300 and you still need to spend another $1000 on a DAC if you want HDMI ARC capability. What B.S. I cannot make a comparison on the sonics between the two, having never heard an A-10. However, I love the idea of an amp than deliver much of the Mac sound at $2500.00 albeit I am skeptical it can. I am sure the technologies and components used differ between the two brands. Regardless, good sound is good sound, and the internal difference do not mean a hill of beans when it comes to enjoying its character. Color me intrigued.
I just picked up this amp and I love it. You mentioned the loudness switch. I don’t really see a big difference whether it’s on or off compared to past units. I was also curious how this amp would sound with klipsch forte 4’s.
I have this amp ordered on eBay from Italy and I gotta say I love it, have it paired with my old McIntosh ML-1Cs and MQ101 equalizer. Great amp for the price
I am looking at this on eBay from Italy at the moment how long was the delivery I am considering the vendor for either an A10 or maybe the A12 be interesting on your thoughts on how it sounds I plan to put a DMP-A8 and a cd transport on it and maybe a cheap record deck as I keep getting tempted by vinyl
Hey audio Man i have just bought the A12 model it's fantastic as you mentioned inputs and outputs tremendous ability sounds amazing i run klh model 5s and an older pair of euphonix by krix a and b using the denafrips pontus 11 dac and to my ears it sounds great
I love the idea of this amplier, I like it's power rating, but will it hold up over time? I think those push switches are gonna break, I need actual manual swiches for each function & control of volume.
Finally one of the few that can run in Class A while some Arcam amps are only up to about 8 Watts in Class A as well as the Aegir and maybe some Rega amps because the hotter it gets the better it sounds and has plenty of power for normal listening. The synergy will sometimes be a bit more depending on not easy to drive speakers though. Reliability is a concern though, this is not the biggest name.
Greetings from rainy Scotland Cheapaudioman. Loving your channel. I have a couple of questions, much obliged in advance.... I'm about to pull the trigger on the A10, it's £2000 in the UK so more or less $2500. I usually listen in very low light, so the question is do all the front lights, including the white around the volume control, on/off button etc, dim or just the VU meters and valves?
Can you review a super amp like the Musical Fidelity M8s-500s that's 500W into 8Ω and almost double that into 4Ω? And compare it to lower powered and cheaper amps to see if it's worth it.
LOL! That opening! I get it that this is a review comparing to a McIntosh because that's what it resembles, but the HDMI Arc input makes this a 2.1 channel A/V receiver, and in that case have a look at the new Marantz Stereo 70s which John Darko just reviewed. I think it's $1200 US, but it is a seriously compelling contenter.
I love what you do. Thank you for pointing me at the Wiim Mini. Have been running it with an Allo Shanti power source (built nearby in Bangalore, India) last 18 months. Am always thrilled to bits with your suggestion.
Find me an amp that has the looks and the feeling that the A10 has... I'm buying one for my second setup. Regret that I've sold my old advance acoustic maa406v1. Was a perfect match with the Klipsch RP600M. 😊
This is a truly exciting piece of equipment I’ve been waiting for to come along. The price is well within reach and considering a good sounding built in DAC, the amount of inputs and wattage it puts out and the killer look with your high recommendation, It’s on my list to get!
So i did a little quick research, and for$2500, i think I'll stick with my Yamaha AS1200. Looked at some photos of the internals and immediately noticed the lack of power capacitors. Weight is a measly 32 lbs, vs Yamaha's 48.5 lbs. This leads me to believe, although it may sound good, it is cheaply made and using parts that shouldn't be used in a unit for this price range. I feel there selling point on this will be the VU meters and tube preamp stage. 😢 i was so excited, but I'm glad i researched this and i think I'll keep shopping for a second system. But thanks for your review Randy.
Excellent review of a rarely discussed brand. I'm betting the Rotel 1572 MkII for just under the same price will send the Advanced Paris packing its bags though. Because legendary designer Ken Ishiwata came across from Marantz and taught Rotel how to deliver proper bass.
@@user-jp3vl5jx1jOk but you went for the weakest budget model (50W) which is hardly designed to blast electronic music. The 1572 Mk II is only two steps up from that and delivers 120W - and very strong bass.
I just bought the RA-1592 MK 2 Crutchfield had it on sale for $2700. I have it connected to a pair of Ohm Walsh 3000 and a 1979 Sony PS-X600 Biotracer TT with Shure cartridge using the 1592's integrated phono stage. Plenty of clean tight bass, so much so I pulled the speakers away from the front wall to tame it a bit. I'm just getting into higher end 2 channel audio and this is my first system so I have nothing to compare it to other than blue tooth speakers or cheap home theater in a box type stuff but it sounds awesome to me.
@@mikef2270 RA-1592 MK 2 is an excellent all round amp to start with. If you want strong performance in bass, mids and treble I don't think any amp for similar money can beat it. Hegel probably comes closest but their mids are too thin for most systems, Rotel is where it's at imo in terms of performance for price. 200W of high quality Class AB for $2,700 is a great deal!
I should've chimed in sooner but I love your take on the audiophile universe/community. I am a poor audiophile and I appreciate your reviews greatly. I recently gave you a reference when I purchased an Emotiva PT2 and an Ampapa phono preamp. I'm also a vintage lover and for my small listening room I have 1979 Celestion Ditton 15's which are as dynamic as any speaker I've ever owned. Of course there is an additional sub. Anyway, keep up the wonderful podcasts!
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Cheap audio man! I know you have communications with fosi... I'm not sure if you'd like this idea, but when building a home theater system, what might be nice is having a 3 channel amp like emotiva builds, but from fosi! I think that would be very exciting instead of doing 3 monoblocks or something. Have the receiver do all the surround speakers otherwise.
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The wireless digital input is for a bluetooth module (sold separately because.. bluetooth gets regularly upgraded... and you can then swap it) as an owner of it for the last 2 years.. it's really fantastic ! sounds really nice accurate but stil on the warm side I really love it! (yeah yeah it's taste)
I could not find a single Advance Paris on Ebay.
I got my A10. For anyone wondering, it sounds fantastic with Wharfedale Linton’s.
I have lintons and it's been driving me insane looking for a pairing. How would you describe the sound ?
I have an aversion to excessive treble. So it’s been hard to find an amp I like. The A10 is not harsh. Easy to listen to. It’s not clinical or transparent. But it’s not “tubey” either. Just good non-fatiguing sound signature. Hope that helps. I done looking now that I found the A10. Bought it through Just Audio. Free shipping and great customer service.
@@MrCambo5150 thanks for the reply, that could be perfect for my requirements. Do the vocals roll of nicely ? My ears are super sensitive to bright highs and treble and find anything on the nuetrual side of sound to be very fatiging. Do you have the lintons on stands ? Also do you have any DAC or phono with your set up ?
@@MrCambo5150 I paired the A10 with some Klipsch R620F. Just wow!
OK, so this episode is the "Value Audioman." I know that you're going to have people unsubscribe over this one, but as someone that used to subscribe to Audiophile magazine just to drool over every issue I appreciate where you're coming from. Keep up the good work.
Really, are audiophiles that sensitive that if you put one foot wrong, you're done? Yes they are
I was able to hear the The Advance Paris equipment at the Toronto Audiofest and I was very impressed.
As tubes burn-in they generally warm over time, which is why many like tube amplication.
Report back after using it a few months
Love this. I am still in the broke/vintage stage (Pioneer SX-780), but I won't be broke forever. My next upgrades will be from Schiit. Then, finally, this A10. Looks great. For turntables I'm aiming for the Michell you like. Thank you!
I was fortunate enough to find one used for $1500. It is only 4 months old. With packaging. So I grabbed it right away. I have to tell you that it is a real piece of equipment. And when you keep in mind of everything it has built in, then it is a bargain. Really does sound great and it looks classy. Wife even likes it.
Hey Randy
I am now listening to your review through my Advance Paris pre - power combo (x-preamp & xa-160).
They're driving the Monitor Audio Silver 300 7g's. I am very happy with the functionality of the preamp (similar to A10) and of course thw power of the XA160 (160watts per channel)
Pretty good value brand.
And they also have many many products, including monoblock amps etc.
It is nice that you covered European products. We have many of these here in Greece 😅😅
It really is a beautiful amp. Advance Paris is a renowned French company. All their products have this special look. BTW, it is currently on sale in Germany for 1500 Euros, including taxes.
Do you have a link
@@BoRerunn the last time I checked it was offered at Hifi Schluderbacher
@@etron1967 I found it on Amazon Germany but can't buy it or ship it
@@BoRerunnOnline sales will ship in olny France.. that is what their website said.
Well, I pulled the trigger and have to wait till March, but my order's in and I'm more excited than Ive been in a long time about a new audio purchase like this. Thanks for bringing this bad boy to my attention.
That amp looks fantastic and it has a sweet mix of retro style and modern features/connectivity. From where I sit, the A10 is a no brainer if one has a 2.5K budget for their amp. I've owned a Yamaha A-S1200 for the last few years. My Yammie is a sweet amp, but I would love to audition one of these. Fortunately I bought my Yammie during COVID and scored it for 1.9K, or I'd really feel bad.
One retro advantage for my A-S, the silver faceplate and yellowish glowing VU meters are the ticket if ya wanna be authentically 70s 😄
I don't know some could argue your Yamaha is a better AMP in terms of quality and longevity/sound. Yea this looks very nostalgic but are you splitting hairs. No offense but not every thing the cheap audio man recommends comes out as better.
@@Ed-sh8jt Ya, I have no interest in parting with my Yamaha, but if this was out when I was buying it would have gotten a very hard look. I scored a great deal on my Yamaha, the full 3K MSRP for it would have been too much if I was aware of this as an option at the time I was buying. My last Yamaha (an A700) lasted me for 35 years, so I doubt I will be in the market for amps again in my lifetime 😆
Great review as always Randy! 2500 bucks is alot, but I get it. This thing might be worth it. Take care and keep up the good work cause me and the rest of the world love it❤️🇸🇪
Great review Randy! As an owner of both a McIntosh pre and power amp (separates) this sounds very intriguing to me! It looks great and by your estimation sounds great! This looks like it would be right up my alley if I was in the market for a new integrated amplifier. It would be one of the first on my list to check out! Hope you and your family have great New Year!
Thanks for introducing the community to this great piece of gear!
Loved the video…first thing I thought myself was Randy cleaned up his office and it must’ve made a difference because your positive attitude was through the roof….😊
It has really put me in a better mood
I am actually taking delivery of a McIntosh MA5300 today. Bias would never let me like the A10 as much as the amp I have wanted for decades.
Me to.
@@Harrisongrey19, trash?? Ha ha ha, you have no idea what you are talking about, come down to earth and listen to this amplifier - it is absolutely outstanding! If you can't hear it, you're not an audiophile, just a wannabe, period!
The MA-5300 is a direct coupled design amplifier from McIntosh. It doesn't have the autoformers like a traditional McIntosh amplifier. I owned the predecessor, the MA-5200 for a short while. To my ears, it lacked fullness that my Cambride Audio CXA-80 at the time featured. I ended up selling the MA-5200 within a few months of purchase. Since that time, I've only used autoformer-based amps from McIntosh - 4 total to be exact. I've appreciated the flexibility in selecting my own pre-amp to pair with the McIntosh power amplifier. The down-sides? The autoformer-based McIntosh amplifiers can weight 90 - 130 Lbs., or more. Once you get them in place, you don't tend to move them very often.
@@4arocker I would have bought separates if I could, and may at some point in the future. For me, this was a giant step up from my Yamaha AS801, which originally cost about the same as the sales tax on the MA5300. I am happy with it right now.
@@mrk8212 - Quite a few of us have been in audio for a long time. When it came to the McIntosh power amps, I've bought used each time. They last. One can get a used McIntosh power amplifier with autoformers for the $3,000 - $4,000 range. Just use a cheaper pre-amplifier in the begging until you can afford the preamplifier that you want. This ensures you can buy your way into some great gear. Even some DACs in the under-$500 range feature preamplifier capabilities.
I bought it. love the meters. love the dad remote. love the power. oh yeah...and it sounds great
Just got a new pair of natural cherry Klipsch Cornwall IVs and have been driving them with my Luxman R-117/M-117/M-113 system which sounds really good. BUT this model is VERY intriguing since a McIntosh MA375 (tube and solid state) or a MA5300 is on my radar in the next 6 months. But this "lively presentation" has made me into a fan and I actually like the meters and it has a cool design. Just upgraded my home theater amp from a Marantz SR5015 to a Anthem MRX540 (way better), but the Advance Paris A10 could be my one stop shop. Good video- Rock on! 😎
This is LOVELY!! I will need to do a little more research, but more than likely, it WILL become part of a second vinyl system for me!! THANK YOU RANDY!!!
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You get the amp for a general average of 1500€ here in Germany. If you look around you might reach a grand . For that price it looks cool and sounds great
Beautiful box. Happy to hear it sounds as good as it looks.
I have this amp and it's fantastic. Looks great sounds great. Loads of inputs plus HDMI ARC
Have you been tempted to go for a separate DAC as an upgrade? The DAC in the A10 is over ten years old…
I am running balanced in from a media player so not tested the DAC.@@Kerwonderful
@@chrissinclair3136 ah ok, thanks for the reply. Glad you like the amp. It looks absolutely killer to me.
I listened to their integrated and mono amps at CAF a couple months ago and was pleasantly surprised. Great sound and a great look.
I saw this and its price and was happy this company understands that all audio enthusiasts are not made of money. I really like its looks (most definitely love its looks) and specs. I've never compared it to McIntosh as it looks better. And it may sound better but that's up to the listener. I wish it wasn't called a A10 as I owned a beast of a integrated amp called the Onkyo A10, built like an anvil.
I wish they offered it in a full analog version, without all the digital amenities, as it would be half the cost, and I'd be able to repair it when it dies.
Love the tube preamp and SS driver and power section. Not interested in Class D so this does meet a lot of my criteria. And if it sounds good, it's worth the price they're asking for it. My issue is I hv some amazing sounding vintage equipment. So I'd really be buying it to step into the 21st century and enjoy its power and its digital convenience features. A remote is a plus too. Even though I may not buy one now, I'll be watching Advance Paris as there's not much for me to get excited about these days in two channel audio, but this is a cool product for sure.
Randy, you are Da-Bomb when it comes to unearthing hi-value high-end audio products at a wide range of prices! As compelling as the A10 is, the all-in-ones on the AP website are even more so, which explains why most of this product type are sold out. The next Eversolo with high quality amplification...?
Heard this amp at CAF. Was a very nice addition (wish I could remember the speakers they were hooked to because it sounded fantastic)
It was the PMC transmission line loudspeakers. Fantastic combo- very engaging and smooth sounding
Wow. Finally a company gets it. And thank you for this video.
I using advance paris preamp and monoblocks…
Sounds great
Best value for money
Great review Randy, sounds like a great product at the right price!❤
Room looks great.
Love the Chris Cornell album in the back.
Also the Warthog filmage. 👍
Amp seems a winner too lol.
I have just two things to say. Firstly, I have a McIntosh MC 2205 Amplifier that I bought at a yard sale and this A10 with its Black VU windows with blue numbers looks nothing like it. Secondly, look at your big fancy office with racks of fresh new components to review, accolades adorning the walls and sexy mood lighting. When I subscribed, your office was your kitchen table decorated with the coffee mug of the day. So glad I could be around for the growth of the channel. Thank you for all of the great content.
I wish you would have compared the internal DAC to the SU-1 which I know lies within a totally different price category but nonetheless
Don’t need or want a cheap DAC incorporated to any amp
Source is King in resolution so a stand alone reference DAC with a Fosi integrated with sub out will stomp it 🎉😊🎶
I bought the A12, it's very good in all aspects. Wonderful!
happy owner of a Classic 10 since 2021… I am really happy with it… using it with a wiim pro plus and Qobuz…. couple goal
Can wiim power on a10 via 12V trigger?
I am so on the fence on taking the next step to a new integrated amplifier. This and your follow up video is making me almost pull the trigger. I appreciate your input.
Yes, you should purchase your next amp based on this inadequate review.
@@Franklyidontgiveadamnn wow, snarky. Haha
All good. I'm reading up on everything I can find out about the amp. Thanks for your concern buddy. ✌🏼
I saw this gear at Capital and it sounded great. It looks awesome too, in my opinion
Be sure to pick up your amp in Paducah! Easy hop from Paris via I-57 and also accessible by riverboat. Great downtown riverfront scene. And the food!!!
I would not hesitate to bet all my gear and record collection and everything audio I have that this Advanced Paris unit is better built than today's McIntosh gear, hands down. I have heard and touched plenty of McIntosh gear from vintage to up to 8 years ago and can say without concern that the vintage McIntosh gear is well made and the recent and new stuff, you would be lucky to have it two years before it starts literally falling apart. Sure, it sounds great, but it doesn't last. McIntosh was far better built back in the day. Today, it is just a name, a shell of what it once was. They build cheap now! It is all about the dollar! It is just a name now.
I own a A10 Classic. I ve been listening this amp for 2 years with jbl l100 Classic. Great great Amp. Warm sound for sure, and can easily drive lot of speakers. Very beautiful too. But please, mcintosh is on another level. Go listen both. You will understand what i said. For the money anyway i personally raccomand it
He does compare it to his own Macintosh. I love Mac but they are amongst the many that stopped delivering value for money
I recently bought the Avance Paris A 10 Classic and to make it complete the x9 cd planet with tubes in the end stage Sounds great with my Infinity Kappa Renaissance Classic 90 and the Infinity Kappa 7 3 way. Nice detailed sound stage wich is huge. I already am addicted to it. Also nice with the Eversolo DMP 6 dac I hooked on.
Very awesome, very! Price not too outta control at all. They should go for the home run and sell this thing with JUST the power amp section, charge half the price ; )
There are no short cuts for quality equipment. You get what you pay for generally. You just need to know what it is you want.
Wow! This amp has really peaked my interest. All I can wish for now is that some of the
other audio reviewers that I "trust" could get their hands on one of these beauties and offer
their take. Yes, it does have a look... agreed. I'd be really interested in the inner construction
but that's me... most will not care. I've always loved the Yamaha's whereby speakers can be
A, B, or AB. This amp (according to their website) offers just that. (Nice!!). They also offer a
model down (cheaper) that also looks pretty. Gonna be watching for more reviews.
Thank you ... most intriguing review in a long long time.
. The interior pictures come up easily with a google image search. I LQQKed and maybe you'll reply back with the same observation I made abut this Advance Paris A10 Classic.
Thanks, had a look. Inner construction looks busy and a bit odd. Now, I am not an electrical engineer
so keep that in mind. The toroid transformer is mounted on its side - never seen that before and it is awfully close to one of the heat sinks. Other than that it is really hard to determine what quality capacitors etc
that they use. I do not like the inner layout on this amp but the A12 is another story - looks much better but again, I'd like a real engineer to look at these amps. Yes, the view meters are a nice touch but in no way give
better sound or indicate quality construction. Now, if you want to talk about quality construction take a look at the 2 Kinki integrated(s) or ANY Hegel. Did I mention Schiit?? Now, they make some very good audio
"stuff" at very good price points.
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@@charlesclifton1006
. Well, you certainly did your homework. Usually what we want to see in a classic Type A/B amplifier is that big copper doughnut and beer can sized filter capacitors. Old school. For an extreme comparison, DuckDuckGo search a "Bryston 28B³ Mono Block Power Amp".
In the picture of the Advance Paris A10 Classic, there seems to be missing those terrific "caps". Their importance comes into play, for example, in repetitive
rhythmic low frequency beats. Every time that kick drum hits, there is a higher power demand than for, let's say cymbals. It's those caps that give us a bank of instantaneous reserve, which moves woofers.
I'm no EE either, so perhaps there is a topology at work here I don't recognize but since we are hobbyists, it's worth noting. Perhaps someone else could chime in and tell us why this Advance Paris A10 Classic has been "Decapitated".
Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
I used to own an advance acoustic (the old brand name of advance Paris) maa405. Loved it for its sound quality but it was always humming. Not on the channels but the massive power transformer. Listening at very low levels wasn’t much pleasure. Normal and high levels was pure pleasure. And that is the difference to a McIntosh. You get what you pay for. Never experienced humming on a Mc. I also had the chance to listen to this bad boy here. It’s better than what I used to own, it’s really cool looking and I enjoyed listening to it and watched the uv meters with a big smile on my face. You get something awesome here but it just looks a little like a McIntosh. It isn’t one. A Mc is a Mc. But the A10 is still worth every penny.
By the way… in Europe that thing is sold way cheaper… a price around 1.7k is not unusual. Plus shipping it should be still a bargain for you guys in the US. 😅
you forgot to say.... Was A10 humming too at low volume?
@@michelerallo9982 I heard it at the shop. There was noise around anyway. There was some noticeable humming. Way less than with the MA but it was there. I would say in a quiet private environment it might pop up at an acceptable level. Not sure but it’s my guess.
That’s a nice looking amp! I have a McIntosh MC7300. It came out about 1991. I got it in 2012 restored for $2000. The main advantage of a Mac is that you can still get parts for them, and they pretty much last forever, and they keep going up in value. I probably can’t afford a Mac today, so if I didn’t already have one, I would probably get one of those that you just reviewed. Will you be able to get parts for it 30 years from now? I doubt it, but I’ll be dead by then.
How did it sound with the Lintons? Thank you dor the content!
There's a great channel called Alpha Audio and they have recorded, very long session comparing the A10 to other amps around the same price. Also the A12, which is the one I ended up buying and no regrets. It really is something else, they do have some great products.
A few other brands come to mind for possible comparisons in this price range: Vincent, Parasound , and Belles.
As a long time high end dealer, I don't consider bettering McIntosh a terribly difficult feat, if your interest is sound. When I sold my store some years ago I stayed for a while and was forced to go to Mac school. Horrible. They told us they don't listen to designs, just measure, sales trainer said the only sound he cares about is the cash register and we were told how to do rigged demos. Very impressed. Stuff looks great, lots done in house, high build quality but I don't like the way it sounds (for the money) and I despise the company. My main lines had been Levinson, back in the day (Dealer of the Year at one point), Audio Research, Classe, VTL, etc.
Adcom just released a preamp-amp bundle for just over $2500, offering 200 W/ch of class AB power into 8 ohms. It should compete head to head with the Advance Paris A-10.
My 1988 Adcom amp and receiver are still sounding amazing. Just got a new Technics SL-1210GR and it sounds great!
I got an old 1991 Kenwood amp this week, love the A-B switch for comparing speakers.
Current definitely brings speakers to life.. NAD / Hafler / HK were always big on high current. Good looking integrated in the video.
I’m always looking for that 70’s warmth with modern clarity, seems like a winner! Thanks
A very interesting and affordable integrated / at the price, not out of range at all. And to be able to switch to class A bias? An amazing product! Definitely looking at the website and just may buy it.
I think you just sold a bunch of these. I'll definitely be looking up more info on it. It's gorgeous and has all the features and connections I'm looking for.
cuold you elaborate on Lintons with this beast pls
I hope they make a stripped down version with all the same amp/preamp parts but without all the I/O .. Just need XLR combi jack, USB/ARC and optical. $1500. Keep the 2 subs and crossover tho. Even one set of speaker outs would be enough but doubles would be nice for that price.
I saw your review while looking for an amp. I was at that point looking into the Choko Emei and the Unison Research Unico Primo. After seeing your review I decided to buy the Advance Paris A10 blind (no possibility to listen to it). I got it from Amazon Germany for 1524 euro (under 1500 dollars). I am absolutely blown away by this amp. Huge improvement over my Rotel, which I always thought was a very good and reliable amp. Huge soundstage, great improvement in the bass, much easier on the ears (far less listening fatigue), sweet midrange and highs, excellent instrument separation. One thing I noticed, as well, is that it made me want to listen to and enjoy CDs after a very long time (I was listening almost exclusively to vinyl before). This thing SINGS (running it on high bias mode), and it has a ton more connectivity than the other two amps I was considering, and a ton of power for my KEF LS 50s. So, thank you very much. I have never bought a component based on a single review before this, but this little monster deserves very high praise. And Advance Paris owes you😊
Which Rotel model did you have?
Rotel RA1062 @@pedroaraujo6300
I'm wondering how would you compare the Rotel Ra-1592 Mark 2 to the Paris ~
Thanks!
I do home theater exclusively so I plan to buy a 7ch amp (OSD or Outlaw) that does 130wpc all channels driven.
They both are less than half the price of this featured amplifier.
Cool story.
Advance Paris makes really good stuff. What most folks are worried about is customer support and returns.
Advance Paris A10 Classic
Preis CHF 1'613.00 in Switzerland
Thanks for the video!
The only spec I've found that matters is total harmonic distortion (I could be wrong). Best amp I ever heard had a THD of 0.005%. My Yamaha has a better than most THD of 0.05%. This one has a THD of 0.1. This is why I'd need to hear it because for less money you can get a LEAK Stereo 230 with a THD of 0.002% or the NAD C 3050 with a THD of 0.005%. I'd love to hear a review of a comparison of those with the A10.
After looking at their site, I’m more interested in the X-A160 EVO power amp at 2k. Has the same Class A Bias ability. Already invested in separates, now if I could only go listen to one.
IMHO wise implementation of technology and solid engineering is tantamount. It appears the A10 has it in spades and I would love the opportunity to give it a listen. As a Mcintosh owner, one of my biggest beefs is you spend so much money and on certain models like the MA5300 and you still need to spend another $1000 on a DAC if you want HDMI ARC capability. What B.S. I cannot make a comparison on the sonics between the two, having never heard an A-10. However, I love the idea of an amp than deliver much of the Mac sound at $2500.00 albeit I am skeptical it can. I am sure the technologies and components used differ between the two brands. Regardless, good sound is good sound, and the internal difference do not mean a hill of beans when it comes to enjoying its character. Color me intrigued.
I just picked up this amp and I love it. You mentioned the loudness switch. I don’t really see a big difference whether it’s on or off compared to past units. I was also curious how this amp would sound with klipsch forte 4’s.
I have this amp ordered on eBay from Italy and I gotta say I love it, have it paired with my old McIntosh ML-1Cs and MQ101 equalizer. Great amp for the price
yeah from italy its around 1499 only which makes it a greater deal
I am looking at this on eBay from Italy at the moment how long was the delivery I am considering the vendor for either an A10 or maybe the A12 be interesting on your thoughts on how it sounds I plan to put a DMP-A8 and a cd transport on it and maybe a cheap record deck as I keep getting tempted by vinyl
1750$ here in Sweden, might be an even better bargain!
The tubes are a set of 12AT7 and they are NOT user replaceable, so no tube rolling.
Hey audio Man i have just bought the A12 model it's fantastic as you mentioned inputs and outputs tremendous ability sounds amazing i run klh model 5s and an older pair of euphonix by krix a and b using the denafrips pontus 11 dac and to my ears it sounds great
Advance Paris is some Awesome Stuff
I love the idea of this amplier, I like it's power rating, but will it hold up over time? I think those push switches are gonna break, I need actual manual swiches for each function & control of volume.
Finally one of the few that can run in Class A while some Arcam amps are only up to about 8 Watts in Class A as well as the Aegir and maybe some Rega amps because the hotter it gets the better it sounds and has plenty of power for normal listening. The synergy will sometimes be a bit more depending on not easy to drive speakers though. Reliability is a concern though, this is not the biggest name.
Why not call it an intergrated amp in the title?
I have the A10 with the Q Acoustic Concept 50 a really great set
Cleaned up office, new year and is that a new Submariner? Looks great
Great video, Randy! Thank you
Greetings from rainy Scotland Cheapaudioman. Loving your channel.
I have a couple of questions, much obliged in advance.... I'm about to pull the trigger on the A10, it's £2000 in the UK so more or less $2500. I usually listen in very low light, so the question is do all the front lights, including the white around the volume control, on/off button etc, dim or just the VU meters and valves?
Can you review a super amp like the Musical Fidelity M8s-500s that's 500W into 8Ω and almost double that into 4Ω? And compare it to lower powered and cheaper amps to see if it's worth it.
Half the price of McIntosh ?? Wow ! Now I only need to save up for 10 years instead of 20
Great review!
LOL! That opening! I get it that this is a review comparing to a McIntosh because that's what it resembles, but the HDMI Arc input makes this a 2.1 channel A/V receiver, and in that case have a look at the new Marantz Stereo 70s which John Darko just reviewed. I think it's $1200 US, but it is a seriously compelling contenter.
I love what you do. Thank you for pointing me at the Wiim Mini. Have been running it with an Allo Shanti power source (built nearby in Bangalore, India) last 18 months. Am always thrilled to bits with your suggestion.
Find me an amp that has the looks and the feeling that the A10 has... I'm buying one for my second setup. Regret that I've sold my old advance acoustic maa406v1. Was a perfect match with the Klipsch RP600M. 😊
loved the episode 6 reference, caught it right as i noticed the helmet...this is the way
Thanks for your review. It would be nice if you had some benchmark data. Unfortunately some fancy vernacular doesn’t replace technical analysis!
You are being generous with "fancy".
@@Franklyidontgiveadamnn 🤣
I have an AP 75xi thing. Super impressive. I don't see thr A10 as a clone just cause... blue vu meters.
This is a truly exciting piece of equipment I’ve been waiting for to come along. The price is well within reach and considering a good sounding built in DAC, the amount of inputs and wattage it puts out and the killer look with your high recommendation, It’s on my list to get!
I think you meant to say 8 to 4 ohm minimum for A-B speaker load.😊
So i did a little quick research, and for$2500, i think I'll stick with my Yamaha AS1200. Looked at some photos of the internals and immediately noticed the lack of power capacitors. Weight is a measly 32 lbs, vs Yamaha's 48.5 lbs. This leads me to believe, although it may sound good, it is cheaply made and using parts that shouldn't be used in a unit for this price range. I feel there selling point on this will be the VU meters and tube preamp stage. 😢 i was so excited, but I'm glad i researched this and i think I'll keep shopping for a second system. But thanks for your review Randy.
Yamaha is analogue only, this has a DAC.
@@jgolig The comparison should be against the Yamaha N-R2000A
Excellent review of a rarely discussed brand. I'm betting the Rotel 1572 MkII for just under the same price will send the Advanced Paris packing its bags though. Because legendary designer Ken Ishiwata came across from Marantz and taught Rotel how to deliver proper bass.
@@user-jp3vl5jx1jOk but you went for the weakest budget model (50W) which is hardly designed to blast electronic music. The 1572 Mk II is only two steps up from that and delivers 120W - and very strong bass.
I just bought the RA-1592 MK 2 Crutchfield had it on sale for $2700. I have it connected to a pair of Ohm Walsh 3000 and a 1979 Sony PS-X600 Biotracer TT with Shure cartridge using the 1592's integrated phono stage. Plenty of clean tight bass, so much so I pulled the speakers away from the front wall to tame it a bit. I'm just getting into higher end 2 channel audio and this is my first system so I have nothing to compare it to other than blue tooth speakers or cheap home theater in a box type stuff but it sounds awesome to me.
@@mikef2270 RA-1592 MK 2 is an excellent all round amp to start with. If you want strong performance in bass, mids and treble I don't think any amp for similar money can beat it. Hegel probably comes closest but their mids are too thin for most systems, Rotel is where it's at imo in terms of performance for price. 200W of high quality Class AB for $2,700 is a great deal!
At similar price,is this better than the Yamaha AS 1200?
I should've chimed in sooner but I love your take on the audiophile universe/community. I am a poor audiophile and I appreciate your reviews greatly. I recently gave you a reference when I purchased an Emotiva PT2 and an Ampapa phono preamp. I'm also a vintage lover and for my small listening room I have 1979 Celestion Ditton 15's which are as dynamic as any speaker I've ever owned. Of course there is an additional sub. Anyway, keep up the wonderful podcasts!
A head to head with the Yamaha N-R2000A should be in the works.
Great video on a unique product. I had no idea it existed. What is the consensus of the brand Advance Paris?
I have some emotiva gear that’s pretty powerful. I love my setup Bobby
I wanted to tell you that Audio Impact is selling that unit for 1470.00. The xi75 for 770.
I have read up on this amplifier and they said when it is played loud it does looses its nice sound.