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- If you were taught to weld your sheet metal panels together with stacked tacks or jumping all over the panel you are causing more work for yourself. Long continuous welds are the key to keeping your panels nice and straight during the welding process and makes hammering out any minor distortion a breeze.
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Man, this channel is going to be one of the most popular metal fabrication spots on UA-cam some day. I'm really glad Karl Fisher mentioned you on his channel as someone he follows. I can sure see why he reccomended you; Stellar content!
Thank you, I sure hope the channel continues to grow. That will allow me to cover a lot more material with more detail
nailed it
I STARTED DOING THAT IN THE GOOD OLD GAS WELDING DAYS. IT WORKED THEN AND IT WORKS EVEN BETTER NOW. I JUST COULD NOT EXPLANE IT LIKE YOU DID. WELL DONE SON !
Thanks
Oh, the video editing was good. You got to the point fast enough to keep people engaged AND you didn’t cut out needed content. IMHO.
If "professional" nickels and dimes welders did a straight through weld like you did..... I wonder how well they'd do.
Beautiful heat pattern.... like a machine did it.
After watching your process and justification for doing so, I wonder about the guys that don't have the tools you do.
Is the backyard welder/car dude better off with just slowly welding spots, or stitches? I love watching you do what you do, but some guys just have a welder, grinder, hammer and dolly.
I have two of those, and a welder isn't one of them. 😁
....asking for a friend. 😉
Once again, that weld was beautiful.
I was trained as a welder in Job Corp.
First class was torch welding...
Oxy/acetylene
Welding, is almost exactly like tig welding.
Just a different heat source.
We had to certify in gas welding before moving on to arc.
Chapped my hide at the time
Glad I had that training now.
Great looking work man .
Dimes are for dumb ass es
I recently started using this technique and it works. I've done the tack method for years and this process is really the way to go. Thanks for making these videos Mike.
Thanks for watching. Glad its working out for you
Haven’t used my new tig yet. Got it for learning to do my body patch panels. Will do some practicing soon. Yours is the first I’ve seen to do this. Will try that too. Thanks. Great explanation.
After seeing this video, I need to practice and work on learning to tig weld. Superb detail, explanation of the method behind the theory behind the and video!
Started out welding sheet metal 50 years ago. Man, I wish I had seen this back then. These days I'm a CWI. Your right, It's all about consistent heat input. Wish I could have seen the back side, but it looks really good. Thanks for the post, subscribed.
I like how he gets straight to the point and gets right into it.
Thanks
I like how you explained everything in detail step by step 👍
Best explanation of weld/warp I've ever heard. Thank you !
Glad it was helpful!
Best & most logical/practical explanation of the atomic structural reactions of metallic alloys when heat is applied.
Thanks for watching
LOVE SEEING SHEETMETAL SHAPING & WELDING, THANKS MIKE
Thanks for watching
Great video very thorough and informative. Thanks
I agree with your method. When I was a sheet metal model maker apprentice back in the 1970's, that is how we were taught. I have arc, mig and tig welders in my shop today, and I rarely roll out my mig welder.I just don't care for it. The control on the tig process is so good you can control warpage much more than mig. This was a really good video, thank you.
Mike hands down this is the best no nonsense video on welding sheet! I always did it jumping around till I caught some of your stuff on Instagram and started running it continuous with .030 rod. DAY and NIGHT difference. Thank you for all you share on here. Your straight to it approach and your commitment to giving all the details make every one of your videos worth well beyond the time spent watching them.
Thanks man, glad it helped make things better on your end. I appreciate the feedback
Excellent video, Mike.
Excellent video! Now I have to start practicing with my rig!
Excellent stuff, always learn something new from your videos!
Awesome, thank you!
Another awesome and informative video. Thanks for putting these out.
Thanks for watching
Mike your awsome ,there was hardly amy warping what so ever ,guess im saving for a tig welder now lol thanks for the great video
Thanks, you wont regret the upgrade
Great info Mike, keep them coming.
Thanks i will do my best
Love the content. You are spot on about TIG welding. Hard to beat a Miller syncrowave TIG welder. I use the same welder at work but I use the TIG button on the torch handle instead of a foot pedal. I feel more stable with both feet on the floor and still have all the control at my finger tip. Great point that nobody sees a pretty weld once it is finished out. Your heat control is great, It is easy to set the heat but you have to be able to keep a consistent speed. Your fit up skills are obvious seeing such a consistent heat zone. All the pieces coming together, quality parts, fit up, weld preparation, excellent finished panel. Frank
Thanks, i prefer the pedal most of the time, i use a thumb wheel when i tight spots such as roof bars of a roll cage in the car.
Hi Mike, I love the channel and thank you for sharing your knowledge. I I totally understand why you are using the power hammer for production speed, but would it be possible for you to also include a small demonstration on how to complete some of these tasks with hand tools as well in your videos please? Thanks.
Another great lesson, thank you Mike.
Glad you liked it!
I see that you offer beginner metal shaping classes. I would be very interested in attending one. Part of the class is creating shapes with basic hand tools. As a diy guy I don't have access to all the high end equipment so using basic hand tools to achieve a satisfactory finish would be very beeificial for me. Thanks for the detailed content that you produce.
Thanks Mike! This is great information.
Thanks for watching
You are a great teacher. Thank You for sharing your knowledge it’s really appreciated.
Thanks for watching
Thanks, I really appreciate the info, I am trying to improve all the time and your videos really help
Thanks, constant improvement is what the craft is all about
Thank you for taking the time to share your viewpoint. Much appreciated!
Thanks for watching
A very well explained video! Thank you.
Thanks for watching
Fantastic job on demonstrating and explaining this process. I hope to be trying it out soon.
Thanks for watching
Thank you that was an awesome video! I’ve always thought that was the best way to weld sheetmetal. I always have ground my welds down before planishing and I end up fighting the highs and lows, I will now try planishing before I put a grinder or da to the sheetmetal.
Great video! A lot of logic, well edited, well done, your a great Craftsman, your Craftsmanship is outstanding!! You got me hooked line and sinker!!
Thanks 👍
Awesome demonstration 👏👏👏
Thank you
Thank you for this video. I too prefer TIG welding sheet metal. I spent hours chasing the warpage. Learned of this technique from Christian Sosa, I have since become a true believer. Thanks again!
Yep tig is the way to go
Another great video ... learned a lot ... love the projects ...
Thanks, glad it was helpful
This is a really, really good explanation of what you're doing. It all makes logical sense, and you can't argue with the results.
Thanks
Going to have to try this out. Also the videos and editing is coming along leaps and bounds! Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
100% agree ! Been doing it that way since way back when using oxy acetylene for welding
I find also that what everyone fails to explain is that when you are welding, no matter what the process, is that when you are adding any kind of hot filler metal, when it cools it will shrink causing more distortion. Just keep that in mind. And yes Tig is the absolute best for the least amount of warpage, also the welders experience.
I clearly state in this video that the distortion in a panel after welding is due to cooling of the weld
To anyone welding. Wear gloves on both hands. Mike I ask you to weld like you did for one inch with no glove on your feed hand. After that smell your feed hand and you will smell burnt skin. Yes it does take some time to get used to feeding wire with a glove on and more when using small wire I used to weld every day and on average eighteen gauge steel,stainless and aluminum tubing. Protect yourself.
I weld all the time with gloves, and with out or one glove just depends. I will do me but thanks for the feedback
@@cornfieldcustomsI was going to mention the glove as well. You are exposing your left hand to a lot of UV. That could come back to haunt you latter in the form of cancer. If you are going to give advice you shouldn’t blow off well meant advice so easily.
@@TricksterJ97 I am aware of the risk, i choose to ignore it.
What a good teacher, thank you
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for being honest about the reality of working metal. None of this is perfect. It’s the finesse that makes it a finished product.
Mike - very well done, and well explained!
Thanks ron, I am humbled by your continued support
This made sense to me, I used to tig weld a lot of stainless stuff and always had better results with long welds then doing the short weld method jumping around thing, but never thought of it this way.
Very helpful and interesting video thanks Mike.
Thanks for watching
Great welding technique!!!
Thanks 👍
This is really neat!! I’ll have to give this a try 👍
Let us know how it turns out
Mike great video! Your right I was taught the old way of stacking tacks and small sections with a mig. I bought a tig and will try this method. Thanks!
I think you will be happy with the results of switching to the TIG
You are amazing ❤ please continue your show and explain
thanks for watching and the kind words, but i am far from amazing
The faders you travel you see more and better
Which I learned from you many years ago
4:18
Lower amps is likely a longer period of time where heat is applied as well- which actually is more heat travel and more heat deformation in my somewhat little experience.
this was great information, 180 degrees from what I would have done in the past...
but makes perfect sense......I know I will be doing this in the future.......thank you so much....
Paul in Orlando
Glad it was helpful!
Great educational content. Your teaching is very well done and your editing is very professional. I see a lot of other channels referencing your quality of work and content. Keep up the great content.
Thank you very much!
I am looking forward to applying this technique when I go todo sheet metal work on my 51ford.
Awesome. let us know how it turns out
Fantastic video and tutorial.
Thank you , Glad you liked it!
Such a great video, super informative
Thank youb
Awesome video, thanks for what you do
Thanks for watching
well presented information Mike, where I struggle is at the final finish stage. The line between hammering the metal enough to be straight or stretching it too much for me is difficult to gauge.
the other one I have trouble with is when the panel is 90% there but full of dimples baffles me too. its as if metal has hardened and won't flatten out for me, the result is I hit it too hard and stretch it into an "oil can" effect and end up back where I started.
once again well done, good presentation
Very Precise. Thank you!!
Thanks
Great episode! Video content and production is A+. A follow-up of grind, massage and finish would be great. It is obvious that you have spent years dedicated to your craft. Thank you so much for sharing your hard earned wisdom.
Thanks for watching
Thank you very much. Great information
Thank you
Thanks, good information! just need to practice.
Thanks
Good explanation
Thanks
Another fantastic video! Keep up the great work! 🫡
Thank you! Will do!
Just as you indicated here, I was taught to TIG panels, close fit-up, tack every inch or so. then continues TIG weld the seam. Always works, just need to develop the skills.
Yep just practice and striving to do better with each part
Thank you for the instruction.
Thanks for watching Glad it was helpful!
Great video and great explanation.
Thank you
thanks for the tip.
you bet, thanks for watching
Great vid, concise, good content, well delivered 👏
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching
The “stack of coins” obsession needs to die and never come back. Function is beauty when it comes to welding.
Yep thats all people want to focus on
Good video and nice welder. Ive got one of the dialarc hf machines.
Thanks 👍
Nice work.
thank you
I would submit that when all we had was oxyacetylene welding there was a greater chance of warpage of sheet metal and the need for tacking and hammering metal was necessary, But, with the Tig welding process we can concentrate an amount of heat in a smaller area as shown by the heat strip of about one inch. So, we have better technology available to people in today's world than before when all we had was oxyacetylene and stick welding along with a gas cutting torch to do our work. This was a good technical presentation. And your explanation was spot on.
Very informative,thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Experience speaks, nice work
Thank you
Hey Mike nice work as always going to have to try that. I am surprised that there aren't a lot of no way comments for the one pass.
nice work dude, i am very impressed with your skill and knowledge
Thanks a lot
Finally someone said it! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Videos are great! I’ve began to try tig welding! Trying to use the pulse features to avoid having to use the pedal while I’m welding! Thanks for this! Your craftsmanship is excellent!
I would recommend not using the pulse as it will become a crutch. just dial your amps back so your not on the pedal as much. Like is said in the video this was wide open at 60 amps other than the beginning and end
@@cornfieldcustoms looks like I have some practice ahead of me!
Yup, I do the same thing with 16ga trailer fenders on mig but once you start you gotta drop the hammer keep truckin until the end, i still get alittle rush trying to out pace the burn through 😂, great content and like everyone said straight and to the point 👍🏼
Thanks for watching
This works for mig too, sort of. I use .030 and the welder pretty hot and after tacking in place like you did run tacks with a 25% overlap waiting for them to just flash off from molten before setting the next one down, Its quick on and off the trigger move over a bit and repeat not stopping from edge to edge. Gets a more consistent heat zone but not as even as yours with tig. I started doing this to avoid pin holes I kept getting from jumping around. Certainly more finish work with mig but when its what you have you work with it. Love the channel, keep it up and you'll be at 150k subs in no time.
Great video,, that takes a lot of practice, but good idea
Everything in the pursuit of being a craftsman takes practice
Great video and thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
i did not dare to say that loud !
thanks to you.
Thanks for watching
I watch so many videos, and you are spot own 🤓👍💯
Thanks I Appreciate that
I picked up a TIG torch in 1974 to weld sheet metal and never looked back. I can do O/A and stick, but I am not a MIG guy….yet. I only did one big MIG job in 50 years.
Wow great video, I really appreciate you doing these. I try to do good work , but I was at a shop that was more about the fastest one is the best. So I got scolded while the cave and pave guys got the atta boy and Pat on the back. I quit because of those reasons. I still want to get into quality work . So your videos are very helpful and inspiring thank you
Yea to many people are not quality driven any more, its instant gratification and take the money and run
I agree with your technique , you have a good understanding of the forces at play. One of the techniques I like to use when welding flat panels with the TIG welder is hammer welding. It used to be fairly common back when we torch welded everything. Not sure if you're familiar with it but it's where you weld for an inch or two, then iron it out while it's still very hot, red hot if you can, then repeat the process down the panel. It takes practice to be really good at it but when you're done all the stresses are out and the welds are flat. It takes a small amount of clean up after that. I got my first TIG welder over 40 years ago and realized quickly how nice it was to weld sheet metal.
I am aware if what hammer welding is but not a fan of it as you have variations in your HAZ from your starts and stops. Much easier to correct as i demonstrated in the video
Would you consider a video showing the next step in metal finishing? Thanks
Ive always heard you say this and I’ve seen it first hand on low crown panels especially. You can visibly see the inconsistent distortion from starting/stoping in the middle of the panel. You’ll see a very consistent slightly raised area from the weld then a little pucker right where the start or stop occurred.
Yep, you saw it first hand to see the difference in technique
great tip.
Thanks
Preach brother! I tell so many people to quit mig welding sheet metal on restoration work. Tig is the only way. I try to do everything tig at my shop from chassis to body work.
Right on, people dont want to hear it. because mig is so cheap and easy they think its the best.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Would you use the same technique with aluminum panels?
yes same technique with aluminum as well
At the moment I use a MIG machine as… that’s all I have etc…. I did two restoration courses with a company that restores and builds Jaguar XK150’s it was my first experience of working metal… They had MIG machines there …they mentioned them…but only taught TIG welding whilst working panels. So that where I started. Welding panels requires the right fitment mention here… we didn’t use filler rod at all. Not sure if that was the next step forwards but ‘Bruce’ the guy who taught us(along with his late father) was an advocate of tight fitment. His father (a coach build since the late 40’s) was a wizard with the hammers and their skills together were quite frankly awe inspiring! I must admit I was out of my depth compared to some other students(some have been in metal shaping for several years professionally) which was obvious from their ability to achieve stuff much quicker than I. As expensive as my two weeks were on those two course(back to back) the amount of knowledge gained was well worth it. I really need to get back into TIG.
I guess that you went to Contour Autocraft in the UK. I went there about 10 years ago and met Bruce and his father. Sad to hear that the father had died. Mike in Germany
Make it Customs told me about your channel. 😀
Thanks for coming over and checking out the page
Guess i`ll be hitting the scrap pile and start practicing the long weld. Have a roof insert to do soon
get out there and give er hell
Good stuff keep it going 👍
Thanks, will do!
A lot better than my duct tape method.
The root of the shrinkage, correct me if I am wrong, is that we get most metal in its rolled state. Clean sheet is cold rolled. So there are stresses in it.
Once it’s heated, as you say, we allow the molecules to go back to their annealed state, which as you say is more compact.
Hammering expands it or creates a push v a pull. Right? So it offsets the pull of the weld.
Welds of course lay in hot and expanded. When they cool they shrink, of course. That can be used to pull things in too.
I’m not as good as you are by any means! I have had some luck with ideas like you are putin’ down. Right on! Thanks for confirming!
it all plays into it. in actual matters, your adding metal in a molten state and as it cools it changes. thats really where the most warp comes from. if you could figure out how to weld without any heat then you essentially wouldn't warp at all. the filler metal is introduced to the base material in a liquid state (expanded at its most) and then as it cools it will get smaller. simple facts. he covers this but does a bit of mental gymnastics around that core principle thats been scientifically proven by industry experts for years. there's absolutely no way around this core principle
In training to weld it was shown we have filler on hand but progress fusing the sheet edges together with filler only to add material reducing flame effect on the parent metal. I accept your style as a better method, just the way you tell & show ! Being a mere human myself, I try to use a backing strip of panel steel; as a heat sink to compensate for my fallible application.
The heat sink is not helping you at all. it may be hurting you. The heat sink pull the heat out meaning you need to run more amps to get good penetration. more amps means larger HAZ.
Excellent video Mike. I’m sure you are using a zero gap fit up, but didn’t catch that in the video. Am I correct to assume that? Please keep up the excellent content.
@@cornfieldcustoms fair call. I'll have a go at making a series of repairs in that style you show here 👍
Hi thank you for the video it was very helpful. One thing I am curious to see as I am new to Tig ,is what the back of a weld like this should look like .
Thank you
The back should just have at least 100% if not more penetration. so you know the seam is solid
Nice video. I run into problems when it's impossible to have access for planishing. I sure would like to have access to a power hammer. That tool is about the same size as my shop. LOL. Best wishes.
when I run into not having access to the back of a panel say on a quarter panel, I will remove the entire panel at factory seams, do the repair then re install the entire panel.