FFS,....if you wanna do such a video,....use a tripod or someone who hasn't been drinking the night before,. ....hands are shaking. Camera work is shocking!...Agree with you Nicola Melillo
I have been trying to ID what Vanilla vines I have. I think this bloom you are pollinating may be one of the varieties I have , the flower looks almost identical. I wish I could add a pix to confirm ! TY for demo on pollination.
Except if you counted on nature - you would never ever get vanilla unless you lived in Mexico where the only pollinator lives. It won’t live elsewhere, and if you had all the time to grow the plant until it flowers. 3-4 years from cutting, then hand pollination. If it takes, 8-9 months of ripening on the vine, then 5-6 months after harvest for complex intensive curing process before being sold and shipped to other countries for processing into vanilla or sale by individual beans. If beans aren’t ripened to right amount of time, flavor and aroma is poor. Same for the curing process- has to be done correctly. Traditional, centuries old methods endure because it produces the best vanilla flavor and aroma. Sometimes they short change the procedure and get bad flavoring. Pollination takes practice and since they only bloom for 1-2 months, you don’t get much practice… ruining many flowers. Each flower you practice on and aren’t successful means no bean, no money. And you can’t try to pollinate all blooms or you will cause the plant to be stressed and ruin its durability for a long life. They only bear for around 10-12 years before having to be replaced. Orchid seed to blooming plant (7-10 yrs or less if you live in ideal location and environment and know what you are doing). Most orchids are bred and gotten to seedling stage or sold in flasks out of Asia shipped to other parts of the world and then sold by distributors to retail houses. The seeding process has to be done under exacting sterile conditions in a lab. This isn’t the tissue culture or mericlone process - just the planting seed in bottles with special solution and under lab conditions utilizing a specialty negative air box (I believe that’s what it’s called) so not a spec of fungi or bacteria gets in the bottle on the disinfected seed. Orchid Tissue culture or mericlones is another whole animal. Sure am glad that 12 year old way back in 1500s figured this out. Before that, vanilla was extremely limited and only for the kings and “gods” of the Aztecs in Mexico. Before the Spaniards discovered Mexico.
Hi! How long takes a new plant to be able to create flowers? If I buy a Vanilla-Bean, could I have a plant from that? Thanks!! PS: Pollination, reallz interesting
Line breeding is different from in breeding. Inbreeding can be harmful from the standpoint of genes not being strong as each generation goes along. But you have to remember centuries ago - in many countries - they kept the races and royal families pure by inbreeding. And clean up til what the 19th century, cousins still frequently married each other, certainly in royal families though it wasn’t first cousins. If you look at the gene pool, you would find a lot more of this than you realize. I mean before the world became so populated and global, there wasn’t really a choice. I mean people even back in the 18th century and back - people didn’t travel so much and you had to be rich to go from say NY to Kansas. And when they did such as in wagon trains - many died to do so heading for California. In flowers, or vegetables you are looking for the plants that have the best traits and genes and cross those. Romance doesn’t come into it - so it’s only the best of the best is bred and then those plants that don’t have good flowers or excellent fruit, well they are culled. When say new roses are bred, it may take 10 years to develop a new one. They cross one plant back on another that could be a sibling of some description utilizing those great traits hoping for something better than the original two. However, out of hundreds of thousands of seeds planted and then each plant that makes it is grown on eventually in the field - thousands upon thousands are culled along the way. And each year more and more are culled until they get to the best of the best. Then they are put through trials in different parts of the country and again, more and more don’t make it or develop some disease, or fragility and get culled. It’s very involved and takes much research, and devotion to details. It’s the same with all plants. And to lesser degree, in livestock - but you don’t have as much produce to work with like you do seeding plants. For just getting the beans for vanilla production you use one flower. But if you wanted to cross breed and get seed for different variety - you would use two different flowers off two different plants. You have to. You would, typically, though some orchids are crossed back on same lines. Vanilla Orchid flowers are hermaphroditic, meaning they contain both mail and female parts. Because of a plant tissue in each flower called the rostellum that covers the stem, the flower cannot self pollinate. In addition, the pollen on a vanilla orchid is highly inaccessible to most pollinating insects, so a typical honey bee cannot access vanilla orchid pollen. The Melipona bee had evolved in a way that allowed it to find the vanilla pollen and carry it to other vanilla flowers for fertilization. Read more at edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdf/HS/HS134800.pdf
Your explanation was beautiful the only thing is that I didn't see what was happening
did you realize how blurry this video was during the most important part? Terrible video quality, although Sr you have done a good job explaining
Can NOT see how you are doing this---- Camera is out of focus !
Get glasses
Camera man was moving too much. Wud love to see a clearer video.
Don't remove the petals, it stresses the bloom and the bean will not stay.
Good explanation, horrible camera operation!
Mount or fix camera! Can't see anything with shakey mc shakerson
The worst cameraman ever...
can't see properly
Thank you for explaining so clearly!!
FFS,....if you wanna do such a video,....use a tripod or someone who hasn't been drinking the night before,. ....hands are shaking. Camera work is shocking!...Agree with you Nicola Melillo
Who cares
Are the Pomona beans larger than planifolia beans? Also are there any differences in their growth and fruiting pattern?
Just like any other orchid pollination...thank you
I have been trying to ID what Vanilla vines I have. I think this bloom you are pollinating may be one of the varieties I have , the flower looks almost identical. I wish I could add a pix to confirm ! TY for demo on pollination.
Why upload a video that goes blurry right at the most important part? How irritating.
Replicating nature's work to get more ice-cream. Awesome! :)
Except if you counted on nature - you would never ever get vanilla unless you lived in Mexico where the only pollinator lives. It won’t live elsewhere, and if you had all the time to grow the plant until it flowers. 3-4 years from cutting, then hand pollination. If it takes, 8-9 months of ripening on the vine, then 5-6 months after harvest for complex intensive curing process before being sold and shipped to other countries for processing into vanilla or sale by individual beans. If beans aren’t ripened to right amount of time, flavor and aroma is poor. Same for the curing process- has to be done correctly. Traditional, centuries old methods endure because it produces the best vanilla flavor and aroma. Sometimes they short change the procedure and get bad flavoring.
Pollination takes practice and since they only bloom for 1-2 months, you don’t get much practice… ruining many flowers. Each flower you practice on and aren’t successful means no bean, no money. And you can’t try to pollinate all blooms or you will cause the plant to be stressed and ruin its durability for a long life. They only bear for around 10-12 years before having to be replaced.
Orchid seed to blooming plant (7-10 yrs or less if you live in ideal location and environment and know what you are doing). Most orchids are bred and gotten to seedling stage or sold in flasks out of Asia shipped to other parts of the world and then sold by distributors to retail houses. The seeding process has to be done under exacting sterile conditions in a lab. This isn’t the tissue culture or mericlone process - just the planting seed in bottles with special solution and under lab conditions utilizing a specialty negative air box (I believe that’s what it’s called) so not a spec of fungi or bacteria gets in the bottle on the disinfected seed. Orchid Tissue culture or mericlones is another whole animal.
Sure am glad that 12 year old way back in 1500s figured this out. Before that, vanilla was extremely limited and only for the kings and “gods” of the Aztecs in Mexico. Before the Spaniards discovered Mexico.
Hi there, who do I talk to about vanilla pompona?
Matur nuwun, regane nek Kono Piro pak
Thank you for share polination proces..
Ok he's kosher.... with dirt under the fingernails....
I need bisnis vanilli with you...i am from indonesia
tahnk for sharing video, fiend
Hi, how can I get cuttings of vanilla pompona? I am from Malaysia.
Bad video, can't even focus
Get glasses
@@christineperez7562 focus on the target vs clarity of the video
Could the video be any blurrier? Sheesh
OMG the fingernails....couldn't watch lol
terrible video
How much does it cost the vanilla in your country? Can I sell my product of vanilla to you. I am looking for buyer of vanilla
Where are you from? WANT TO BUY FROM PHILIPPINES....email. .lalibertad236@gmail.com
Terrible camera work. Can't see what's happening.
Who cares
C+ So far 5 pollination video and none do it properly.
Tell usss thenn
Thank you for explaining. Such a fascinating natural process
very usefull and simple , thank yuo !
Very bad camera work
And you thanks👍
You explained that so well. Thank you
yes he is
Good Job !
Mi abuelita dice (ella polinizó vainilla desde los 11 años) que maltratan la flor de manera injustificada. debe ser un trabajo sutil.
I've been to Puerto Vallarta so many times and didn't know this lovely place existed, more publicity. I'll try to visit next time I go
Can it be done early in the morning?
Good explanation
💐💐💐
thank you i live with this plant since i am child but i never know how to do it
Hi! How long takes a new plant to be able to create flowers? If I buy a Vanilla-Bean, could I have a plant from that? Thanks!!
PS: Pollination, reallz interesting
6 years
crappy video, very 'jumpy', what a shame, even though it was a good explanation
It just works with using both parts from the same flower? Is it not as unhealthy to them as it is to humans?
Line breeding is different from in breeding. Inbreeding can be harmful from the standpoint of genes not being strong as each generation goes along. But you have to remember centuries ago - in many countries - they kept the races and royal families pure by inbreeding. And clean up til what the 19th century, cousins still frequently married each other, certainly in royal families though it wasn’t first cousins. If you look at the gene pool, you would find a lot more of this than you realize. I mean before the world became so populated and global, there wasn’t really a choice. I mean people even back in the 18th century and back - people didn’t travel so much and you had to be rich to go from say NY to Kansas. And when they did such as in wagon trains - many died to do so heading for California.
In flowers, or vegetables you are looking for the plants that have the best traits and genes and cross those. Romance doesn’t come into it - so it’s only the best of the best is bred and then those plants that don’t have good flowers or excellent fruit, well they are culled. When say new roses are bred, it may take 10 years to develop a new one. They cross one plant back on another that could be a sibling of some description utilizing those great traits hoping for something better than the original two. However, out of hundreds of thousands of seeds planted and then each plant that makes it is grown on eventually in the field - thousands upon thousands are culled along the way. And each year more and more are culled until they get to the best of the best. Then they are put through trials in different parts of the country and again, more and more don’t make it or develop some disease, or fragility and get culled. It’s very involved and takes much research, and devotion to details. It’s the same with all plants. And to lesser degree, in livestock - but you don’t have as much produce to work with like you do seeding plants.
For just getting the beans for vanilla production you use one flower.
But if you wanted to cross breed and get seed for different variety - you would use two different flowers off two different plants. You have to. You would, typically, though some orchids are crossed back on same lines.
Vanilla Orchid flowers are hermaphroditic, meaning they contain both mail and female parts. Because of a plant tissue in each flower called the rostellum that covers the stem, the flower cannot self pollinate. In addition, the pollen on a vanilla orchid is highly inaccessible to most pollinating insects, so a typical honey bee cannot access vanilla orchid pollen. The Melipona bee had evolved in a way that allowed it to find the vanilla pollen and carry it to other vanilla flowers for fertilization.
Read more at edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdf/HS/HS134800.pdf
Fantastic Garden 👍
will try,how much per kg now?
Thank you, fascinating.
thank you.
dear frieds give clue about how to plant this vanilla? does it plant with a seed?
Seeds are very hard to grow. Making cuttings from existing vines is easier.
+Lazy Gardens . thanks for your conteropution. ishmael.