When it comes to option trading,most beginners often overlook the importance of getting a reliable trained unit which will serve as guidance against huge risk and that often draws attention to the unforeseen loss of trades and money for investors..
I started trading in 2017 and i suffered few losses,I didn’t stop till i lost a couple more lol. However i was able to make back my loss and more when I started trading through the mentorship of a trained entity. I do think the absence of a professional makes trading very tense and unpromising
Self trading always tend to be difficult especially for beginners because they repeatedly make common trading errors making them wonder if option trading is any progressive
i have lost a whole lot to the market in the past few months and i have come to realize how essential it is to have professional guidance . How can I go about getting that info such as trained entity to serve as support on my trades?
I have watched likely more than a dozen videos, most of them SMB Capital, explaining Iron Condors an similar strategies. What I never get is an explanation for how/why the price is picked for the options you are buying for protection, in this case 50 points higher. Why 50? Is this just based on a % above and below? Or is it based on the delta?
I really appreciate the dedication in each video you post. To be successful one has to have multiple income streams and so on, also investors should understand the crossover between asset classes & liquidity flow, Judith Layton focuses on Multi-asset trading, a single strategy to manage risk, profit, and the code or the actual decision-making across multi-asset classes. Her skills set is top notch
I sympathize with many people who had no knowledge digital marketing because currently dollar is unstable and coin is taking over to be the universal currency
I remember when I just got into crypto back in 2019 but later in 2020 I ended up selling it because I was dumb and I didn't understand it. I studied and learned and now I know how it works. Got back into crypto early in 2023 with 10k and I’m up with 128k in a short period of time .This comment serves as motivation for all those who have invested and continue to invest in cryptocurrencies with so many losses, do not give up, cryptocurrencies can change your life. Do your best to connect with the right people and you will surely see changes.
I started working with Antonio Alex back in June, and my financial goals have never been clearer. It’s like having a strategic partner for my money with a solid track record.
You have 60 days to manage the trade. One thing I do, is close the position if price action causes one of the spreads' "cost close" to reach 80% my original credit. So, that way I get out of the trade with a small profit, even when considering broker fees+comms. For example, if I put on an iron condor and collected $500 premium ( $200 for the put side;$300 for call side) and something crazy happened in the markets, causing the call spread to rise to $400 to close it, then I'd close the whole thing. I'd have $100 left, plus what ever the put spread was worth, minus $~10 in broker expense. The trade didn't workout like I expected, but I didn't "lose": I got paid $100+ for my trouble. More importantly, I didn't drawdown any of my initial capital.
you can sell options secured with cash ie. you must have enough cash in your account to buy all the stock obligation you sell in case it is exercised. for most broker it is automatic. if you don't have enough cash you can't sell the options. second way is to secure with cheaper opposing options to the one you sell (aka. credit spreads)
@@bernieadams4057 You can sell cash secured puts, but not calls, since calls have no upside limit unlike puts. Though I think some brokers allow you to sell "naked calls" if you have enough cash in your account?
Thank you for the video, but I have a couple of quick questions. Can you create an IC as soon as you close the previous one so that you do not wait wait for the next 2 month cycle. Generally speaking, can you have several IC going at the same time as long as the profit range is not close to the current market?
Hi.aditya, you can use any free strategy builder which shows PoP, max.profit, max.loss, break-even levels, initial credit/debit amount & most importantly the initial margin money required. Don't you find it enough for you to assess the trade. Of course you can do it on paper trading mode initially and if found suitable with having 70-80% accuracy and if you can have a good understanding to stick to a comfortable risk/reward ratio with good money management, you can !!!
This probability analysis is based the dubious assumption that the volatility of the underlying asset (RUT in this case) won't change between now and expiration. The deltas that are being interpreted as probabilities are themselves changing daily.
Why would you wanna do 60 DTE options and execute only 6 trades annually when you can do 0 DTE trades 5 days week and pocket substantially more money ?
I did a phantom trade on this . . . risk was 45K for 4.2K return . . . really??? even if the chances of trade going bad is 20% . . . risk is not worth the reward
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Michelle Stewart.
She is my family's personal broker and also a personal broker in many families in United States, she's a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in United states
Most of these videos suggest selling options to make a profit. Unfortunately, most brokers won't allow you to sell options unless you're a professional investor. They only allow you to buy them.
I lost over $80k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Veronica Hoy
I like most of your videos but this strategy just seems so dumb. As soon as you lose one of these trades, which is likely to happen eventually, it is going to wipe out 2 years of profits. Seems like a horrible way to trade.
You won't lose it if you manage the trade. I'm pasting in a previous response; "You have 60 days to manage the trade. One thing I do, is close the position if price action causes one of the spreads' "cost close" to reach 80% my original credit. So, that way I get out of the trade with a small profit, even when considering broker fees+comms. For example, if I put on an iron condor and collected $500 premium ( $200 for the put side;$300 for call side) and something crazy happened in the markets, causing the call spread to rise to $400 to close it, then I'd close the whole thing. I'd have $100 left, plus what ever the put spread was worth, minus $~10 in broker expense. The trade didn't workout like I expected, but I didn't "lose": I got paid $100+ for my trouble. More importantly, I didn't drawdown any of my initial capital."
Need to have a R/R$ stop on a loss. If you backest this yourself after Seth gave you the free idea, you'll find what R multiple you have to take a loss on based on the W/L ratio in your own backtest. You can't execute this anyway- even if you think you believe it works, until you do the backtest yourself. Believe me.
Yep, make sure you are looking at the right column but some platforms just put the number, others convert to a percent. I think fidelity is an example that has it just as the raw number.
SMB Cap provides excellent training materials but I don't think this is for beginners - I believe SMB Cap should have at least illustrate to the beginner what one loss would be in your example - it would erase all their gains in your example
Doing iron condors is not for begginers as most of us cannot even get our broker to give us an option level high enough to do that. I have been with my broker for a few years and cannot past level 1 even though I qualify for a pattern day trader. I am looking into other brokers, but I cannot even do spreads.
Do your protraders invest millions into this strategy? Do they even use it? If they don't use it that says something right there. My guess is the professional traders don't use this strategy because if they did you could talk about some of the success they have had with it and everyone would be investing millions into it.
There is a time and place that top end hedge funds use this strategy. The reason that not every great trader uses this has to do with knowing their swing. Using this at the right time (? Do more work to find out where the extreme edge lies in using this one), and then decide if it fits with your personality or "swing". Until then, I'd just listen more and talk less
@@cu8350 I am listening. Please let us know the best time and place to use this. Where is that extreme edge using this one. I did not hear this discussed on the video and would like to know more, thanks.
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When it comes to option trading,most beginners often overlook the importance of getting a reliable trained unit which will serve as guidance against huge risk and that often draws attention to the unforeseen loss of trades and money for investors..
I started trading in 2017 and i suffered few losses,I didn’t stop till i lost a couple more lol. However i was able to make back my loss and more when I started trading through the mentorship of a trained entity. I do think the absence of a professional makes trading very tense and unpromising
Realizing an unsafe intuition is one thing,being able to capitalize on the market to make profit independently requires your personal techniques
Self trading always tend to be difficult especially for beginners because they repeatedly make common trading errors making them wonder if option trading is any progressive
@LEAKOBARNES
i have lost a whole lot to the market in the past few months and i have come to realize how essential it is to have professional guidance . How can I go about getting that info such as trained entity to serve as support on my trades?
I agree with people who are saying that this is not for beginners. The biggest challenge is terminology.
which broker allows iron condor level option for beginners ?
I have watched likely more than a dozen videos, most of them SMB Capital, explaining Iron Condors an similar strategies. What I never get is an explanation for how/why the
price is picked for the options you are buying for protection, in this case 50 points higher. Why 50? Is this just based on a % above and below? Or is it based on the delta?
He’s not trading price, he’s trading deltas.
I really appreciate the dedication in each video you post. To be successful one has to have multiple income streams and so on, also investors should understand the crossover between asset classes & liquidity flow, Judith Layton focuses on Multi-asset trading, a single strategy to manage risk, profit, and the code or the actual decision-making across multi-asset classes. Her skills set is top notch
The very first time we tried, we invested $1000 and after a week, we received $3900. That really helped us a lot to pay up our bills
You trade with Elizabeth Messer too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
I was skeptical at first until I decided to try. It’s huge returns is awesome! I can’t say much.
she's mostly on Telegrams, with the user name.
Exactly the information that I need. Thank you.
You did not talk about the most important part of trading these: risk management.
Many thanks! It is perfect fo me😊
I sympathize with many people who had no knowledge digital marketing because currently dollar is unstable and coin is taking over to be the universal currency
I know Yetta cox strategy is the best at the moment, I recommend it for beginners because it is perfect for now and it is known
How do I get to her??
I've seen plenty people talking about this Yetta cox she must be very amazing for people to talk this good about her
I remember when I just got into crypto back in 2019 but later in 2020 I ended up selling it because I was dumb and I didn't understand it. I studied and learned and now I know how it works. Got back into crypto early in 2023 with 10k and I’m up with 128k in a short period of time .This comment serves as motivation for all those who have invested and continue to invest in cryptocurrencies with so many losses, do not give up, cryptocurrencies can change your life. Do your best to connect with the right people and you will surely see changes.
I started working with Antonio Alex back in June, and my financial goals have never been clearer. It’s like having a strategic partner for my money with a solid track record.
he's mostly on Telegrams, using the user.
I have heard so much about him and have been trying to get in touch with Antonio. thanks for the info. His popularly known here in Madrid
THAT IS HIS USER NAME
Really you people know ProAntonio Daily? I was even thinking that I'm the only one he has helped walk through the fears and falls of trading.
You don’t say what happens when you loose trades 20% of the time?
Yup. That's a pretty easy mathematics too. On a 50 point spread, you're risking 5,000 to make that $500-$600.
You have 60 days to manage the trade. One thing I do, is close the position if price action causes one of the spreads' "cost close" to reach 80% my original credit. So, that way I get out of the trade with a small profit, even when considering broker fees+comms. For example, if I put on an iron condor and collected $500 premium ( $200 for the put side;$300 for call side) and something crazy happened in the markets, causing the call spread to rise to $400 to close it, then I'd close the whole thing. I'd have $100 left, plus what ever the put spread was worth, minus $~10 in broker expense. The trade didn't workout like I expected, but I didn't "lose": I got paid $100+ for my trouble. More importantly, I didn't drawdown any of my initial capital.
@@markl431 I don’t understand it yet. People say they are making money but you loose 2 times out of 10 , each time $4400?
@@markl431yep. SMB never tell you the downside. Who would listen to these guys? Risking 1 to lose 10. Need to be right >100% to make money.
Thank you so much for this!
mike where can i get that hoodie ur wearing ?
How to get funded from smb
In options, how do you sell a call on stocks or an ETF you do not own??
you can sell options secured with cash ie. you must have enough cash in your account to buy all the stock obligation you sell in case it is exercised. for most broker it is automatic. if you don't have enough cash you can't sell the options.
second way is to secure with cheaper opposing options to the one you sell (aka. credit spreads)
@@bernieadams4057 You can sell cash secured puts, but not calls, since calls have no upside limit unlike puts. Though I think some brokers allow you to sell "naked calls" if you have enough cash in your account?
Thank you for the video, but I have a couple of quick questions. Can you create an IC as soon as you close the previous one so that you do not wait wait for the next 2 month cycle. Generally speaking, can you have several IC going at the same time as long as the profit range is not close to the current market?
This will work well in a sideways market. What happens when the market moves in one particular direction? What's the maximum loss in these trades ?
Hi.aditya, you can use any free strategy builder which shows PoP, max.profit, max.loss, break-even levels, initial credit/debit amount & most importantly the initial margin money required.
Don't you find it enough for you to assess the trade. Of course you can do it on paper trading mode initially and if found suitable with having 70-80% accuracy and if you can have a good understanding to stick to a comfortable risk/reward ratio with good money management, you can !!!
This probability analysis is based the dubious assumption that the volatility of the underlying asset (RUT in this case) won't change between now and expiration. The deltas that are being interpreted as probabilities are themselves changing daily.
So what if the Russell wasn't going up but rather going down?
nice one
picking up nickels in front of a freight train?
misleading without mentioning risk management
Why would you wanna do 60 DTE options and execute only 6 trades annually when you can do 0 DTE trades 5 days week and pocket substantially more money ?
Thanks Sir.
I did a phantom trade on this . . . risk was 45K for 4.2K return . . . really??? even if the chances of trade going bad is 20% . . . risk is not worth the reward
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Michelle Stewart.
She is my family's personal broker and also a personal broker in many families in United States, she's a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in United states
You trade with Michelle Stewart too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much
she's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name.
Most of these videos suggest selling options to make a profit. Unfortunately, most brokers won't allow you to sell options unless you're a professional investor. They only allow you to buy them.
I lost over $80k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Veronica Hoy
I'm surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of her clients testimonies on CNBC news last week...
Veronica Hoy was my hope during the 'bear summer' last year. I did so many mistakes but also learned so much from it, and of course from Veronica Hoy.
The first time we had tried, we invested $1400 and after a week we received $5,230. That really helped us a lot to pay our bills.
she's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name.
HOY15 💯
I like most of your videos but this strategy just seems so dumb. As soon as you lose one of these trades, which is likely to happen eventually, it is going to wipe out 2 years of profits. Seems like a horrible way to trade.
I have been seeing lots of testimonies about yetta Cox she must be very good for people to talk so well about her am going to search her up now
You won't lose it if you manage the trade. I'm pasting in a previous response;
"You have 60 days to manage the trade. One thing I do, is close the position if price action causes one of the spreads' "cost close" to reach 80% my original credit. So, that way I get out of the trade with a small profit, even when considering broker fees+comms. For example, if I put on an iron condor and collected $500 premium ( $200 for the put side;$300 for call side) and something crazy happened in the markets, causing the call spread to rise to $400 to close it, then I'd close the whole thing. I'd have $100 left, plus what ever the put spread was worth, minus $~10 in broker expense. The trade didn't workout like I expected, but I didn't "lose": I got paid $100+ for my trouble. More importantly, I didn't drawdown any of my initial capital."
Need to have a R/R$ stop on a loss. If you backest this yourself after Seth gave you the free idea, you'll find what R multiple you have to take a loss on based on the W/L ratio in your own backtest. You can't execute this anyway- even if you think you believe it works, until you do the backtest yourself. Believe me.
Why i don't see 10 delta mine shows -0.someting and max out at 1.000?
Yep, make sure you are looking at the right column but some platforms just put the number, others convert to a percent. I think fidelity is an example that has it just as the raw number.
10=.10
Надо попробовать.
This is not the simplest options play... the simplest options play is to buy naked calls (ideally in or close to the money).
SMB Cap provides excellent training materials but I don't think this is for beginners - I believe SMB Cap should have at least illustrate to the beginner what one loss would be in your example - it would erase all their gains in your example
These guys make their money off the market, not in the market.
Any video discussing more than buying one call is not simple.
BNB Market Price 528, Sell call 500 strike rec 28.8 prem. Sell 560 Put rec 32.8 prem. Exp day market close 538.80
What will be the PNL outcome ?
And this is the simplest option trading for beginners?!?!?!
Doing iron condors is not for begginers as most of us cannot even get our broker to give us an option level high enough to do that. I have been with my broker for a few years and cannot past level 1 even though I qualify for a pattern day trader. I am looking into other brokers, but I cannot even do spreads.
i cant grasp the fact you are risking 4k to make 200.... and no risk management ..
Day 4 of asking someone who can review my DRC (Daily Report Card) and Trades......
Risking $4100 to make $580 in 60 days?
Do your protraders invest millions into this strategy? Do they even use it? If they don't use it that says something right there.
My guess is the professional traders don't use this strategy because if they did you could talk about some of the success they have had with it and everyone would be investing millions into it.
There is a time and place that top end hedge funds use this strategy. The reason that not every great trader uses this has to do with knowing their swing. Using this at the right time (? Do more work to find out where the extreme edge lies in using this one), and then decide if it fits with your personality or "swing". Until then, I'd just listen more and talk less
@@cu8350 I am listening. Please let us know the best time and place to use this. Where is that extreme edge using this one. I did not hear this discussed on the video and would like to know more, thanks.
Such a joke. The risk reward of these trades is terrible.
Dude u lost me 1min in, have no idea what ur talking about lol.
So much for easy.