The tiny horn melody at 0:53 and the section after it with that unbelievably simple but so so very much beautiful piano part and decending scales on the winds is for me, one of the most beautiful moments in music
ElSmusso its very beautiful but I doubt he meant it literally. I don't think we should take a single personal letter too seriously. It may be but I don't believe so.
All of the performers are incredible of course, but I’m so impressed by the precision and delicacy of the pianist, and the articulation and blend of the hornist. It’s clear they spent a lot of time playing with woodwinds - their articulation matches that unique crispness of the reeds so well.
One of the single greatest compositions in all classical music. Impeccable architecture, sublime melodies, ingenious interplay between the instruments.. and the story unfolds so effortlessly and so naturally.
1:00 That 5-6-consecutive is just pure heaven. All those nice little suspension notes in the piano accompaniment are really spicy and just make this incredibly mellow sound. I also love how Mozart gives all of the lines in that section their own unique identities with their respective dramaturgical arcs as opposed to just using vocabulary from the theoretical phrase book. Yes, there are canonic entrances, but all those little deviations are the proof of this being a masterwork. E.g. that difficult chromatic horn part in the second bar which supports that wonderful quinte superflue. It just gets richer and richer the longer the sequence lasts. Each detail, however minor it may seem, is utterly important to the whole. Just wow.
Mozart considerava questo quintetto il suo capolavoro assoluto...in effetti è di un equilibrio, una perfezione stilistica e formale e di una classe infiniti... è musica di pura trasparenza e cristallina bellezza...vi è inoltre tanto tantissimo sentimento in questo pezzo... è come un Dipinto di Raffaello o una scultura del Canova...
I reiterate Brian Bernstein's statement below: "One of the single greatest compositions in all classical music" --and that is not an exaggeration! That any human being could put together something so immeasurably intricate without sounding intricate --as if composed by a child-- boggles the mind. Yet that is the least of it. Beneath that classical veneer lies a singularly incomparable quality --how can i put it?-- YES: a divine naiveté --the defining characteristic of Mozart which is expressed "a la perfección" by this grand ensemble.
24:02 absolutely amazing thing ! The winds crescendo result to the chord on the piano next measure, chord who sound naturally diminuendo, with the same timbre and colour than the winds...EVVIVA TRAZOM !
Firstly, impressive, very nice. let's see Paul Alan's card. Secondly 0:42 amazing oboe note, literally the best way to voice a diminished 7th . thirdly 0:54 - 1:18 is absolutely blissful, an underused moment in the piece which is thoroughly beautiful.
Zac it is nice. It's amazing how the whole piece has an operatic character to it, similar to Carl Maria von Weber's pieces for clarinet and piano, and his own opus 34.
Brian R. I prefer the Beethoven work, op. 16, particularly when scored as a piano quartet (piano w/ violin, viola and cello). This work is the best of its kind IMO
@@timothythorne9464 Hmm. I guess that's one of the main reasons I like this work more, then. The woodwind parts seem more essential to the piece as a whole, as a truly integrated chamber work. The themes written for them are idiomatic, with Mozart's ear for the timbral/sonoral capabilities of each woodwind instrument that he perfected from writing all those woodwind divertimenti. The Beethoven seems like a small scale piano concerto where the woodwind parts can be exchanged for other instruments.
Brian R. I'm giving the Mozart quintet another listen. Maybe I'm missing something. It's just the Beethoven piece really appeals to me, and the finale is so animated and catchy. But I'll run through the Mozart again before determining one is "better" than the other.
“"I have composed a Quintet for Oboe, Clarinet, Horn, Bassoon and Pianoforte, which has been received with extraordinary favor. (Kochel, No. 452.) I myself think it the best thing I ever wrote in my life."” - Mozart: the man and the artist, as revealed in his own words by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart a.co/01CZgT7
A wonderful piece indeed, one of my all-time favorites, and an excellent performance here. But - I wonder how many time Mozart made a similarly enthusiastic statement about a piece he had just written?
@@bagochipsmusic5687 This humour was prevalent back then. Even Chopin the INTROVERT had scatology in his letter. Children's lullabies were filled with poop jokes.
Definitely one of the highlights from the whole piece. The transition from E minor to B-flat especially is supposed to be difficult (since they are literally farthest keys to each other) but he did it in a matter of several bars, during which the music still sounds all natural and flawless....like a champ. Pretty sure that's a part of why he is so proud of this particular piece.
He isn't B flat major, he's in E flat major starting at 15:33 when section "Q" starts. He uses C7 as a pivot chord, which is V/ii in E flat major and the augmented 6th chord of E minor. Our ears are expecting the C7 chord to resolve to F minor, the ii chord of E flat major, instead we get a cadential 64 chord in E minor. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but this is incredibly standard modulation up a minor 2nd interval. We'd expect E major to follow the dominant B chord, as E is the Neapolitan of E flat and would allow a very easy transition back to E flat major if desired. Following a B major chord with E minor instead of E major is as easy as 123, though I agree it provides a nice surprise.
The modulation from E minor back to B flat is pretty cool though... using C major and D minor as little islands to jump on, sandwiched in between dual functioning diminished chords. C major even sounds like fresh harmony here, even though he used it to modulate to E minor literally five seconds earlier.
Gosh, what lovely music, and played by this group with such attention to nuances of dynamics. As for the writing, I especially love how, in the middle movement, the development in the development section is almost not as intricate as the "development" that he cooks up for the recapitulation! Marc Vincenti
This is one my all-time favourite Mozart`s chamber works,because I love the wind instruments as well as the piano,especially the second movement is so beautifully well-performed and well played.
Only famous intrprets (Brendel, Holliger !!!) have contributed to this recording of the very beautiful and elegant quintet of Mozart for piano and winds. The invention and the sense of tones of Mozart ids very rich, as we can hear in that awesome rrecording.
In terms of musical "deepness", this quintet was writtten rather for friends and aristocratic sociaty. So, it does not have the "deepness" of the string quintets or the piano quartets. Nevertehelss, this is by no ways a "weak" point but a deliberate choice of a genius, and the outcome is nothing else than a top level work, much better thazn for instance Beethoven's similar work op. 16.The 'dialectic use' of piano and winds is unprecedented in my opinion before XXth century (Stravinsky, Hindemith, Webern, French music by Milhaud and Poulenc). The genuis of Mozart had many faces: you can hear it for uinstance in his operars 'Don Giovanni' or 'Die Zauberflöte'. One of the most outstanding harmonic analysis books which I know (in French or English) is the (unfortunalmtely) poorly known 'Antitraité d'Harmonie' by Mrs Andreani, ranging from Monteverdi to Debussy and Ravel. In a key section, one of the leading scores that she chose as a guideline through the entire section is this score and no else by Mozart. When I was younger, this book brought me a lot in getting a high level vision of tonal harmony as a whole - rather than Schoenberg's of Schrecker's books. .
I wouldn't be surprised that Mozart thought this his best piece yet if the performers in the premiere also did such an exhilarating accelerando al fine.
A masterpiece! Beethoven wrote a piece for the same instruments and it was a paean to Mozart but this is, at least in my opinion, far better. The horn melodies are sumptuous. And this is an all star group performing. Mozart also wrote amazing music for the clarinet.
Bea, how many versions did you actually heard that you can state that this is your favorite version?---there are the catalog about 25 recordings, if not more, for this wonderful piece ...( see Amazon)
Listening to the second movement, I just sit there with mouth agape as did Salieri in the movie "Amadeus," and ask myself "How could any human being create such music?
Having listened to both this and Beethoven’s opus 16, the former definitely surpasses the latter. Mozart’s seems so much more subtle, and texturally pleasant.
Yeah cause it hints at a pop V - IV - I progression (though actually it's just an ornamental device since there's very little melody over it and the bass remains on scale degree 1).
Why is the Clarinet in Bb not written as "Clarinetto in Sib/Bs" in the score (at the very beginning) ? I feel like there should be an 's' after the 'B' instead of "Clarinetto in Sib/B." I'm trying to get better at orchestration and I want to make sure that I am not missing something. Thank you so much ! :)
I think that would better describe Beethoven's quintet for piano and winds where the piano is dominant throughout. This composition is a true ensemble piece for 5 instruments. Even in the cadenza of the last movement, the woodwinds enter first.
The beginning is simple. All five instruments enter at the same time and then piano escorts the rest. Horn and basoon take over with the heavenly voice. The sweet and light allegretto reminds sinfonia concertante.
Yes I just found it...It is titled just Piano Score, I thought it is just the piano part...but when I found the Beethoven Quintet OP 16, in full score named Piano Part, I found it too... Thank you.
Io l'ho appena ascoltato e non c'è stata nessuna interruzione. Mi ero lamentato per lo stesso motivo con un releaser. Mi ha risposto che non dipendeva da lui la scelta del momento e la quantità delle interruzioni pubblicitarie. Si è anche scusato.
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The tiny horn melody at 0:53 and the section after it with that unbelievably simple but so so very much beautiful piano part and decending scales on the winds is for me, one of the most beautiful moments in music
The horn gives me chills. The voice of God :)
Mozart wrote in a letter to that this was the best he had composed :) it’s beautiful 😍
ElSmusso its very beautiful but I doubt he meant it literally. I don't think we should take a single personal letter too seriously. It may be but I don't believe so.
It truly is. One of my favourite works by Mozart.
It is one of the best pieces written by Mozart. I compare it with the beatiful ouvertures to the operas.
Yes but it was before Figaro and the 1791 masterpieces
Anyone proffer why he thought that?
All of the performers are incredible of course, but I’m so impressed by the precision and delicacy of the pianist, and the articulation and blend of the hornist. It’s clear they spent a lot of time playing with woodwinds - their articulation matches that unique crispness of the reeds so well.
One of the single greatest compositions in all classical music. Impeccable architecture, sublime melodies, ingenious interplay between the instruments.. and the story unfolds so effortlessly and so naturally.
1:00 That 5-6-consecutive is just pure heaven. All those nice little suspension notes in the piano accompaniment are really spicy and just make this incredibly mellow sound. I also love how Mozart gives all of the lines in that section their own unique identities with their respective dramaturgical arcs as opposed to just using vocabulary from the theoretical phrase book. Yes, there are canonic entrances, but all those little deviations are the proof of this being a masterwork. E.g. that difficult chromatic horn part in the second bar which supports that wonderful quinte superflue. It just gets richer and richer the longer the sequence lasts. Each detail, however minor it may seem, is utterly important to the whole. Just wow.
A real "all-star" ensemble to play this masterpiece!
Mozart considerava questo quintetto il suo capolavoro assoluto...in effetti è di un equilibrio, una perfezione stilistica e formale e di una classe infiniti... è musica di pura trasparenza e cristallina bellezza...vi è inoltre tanto tantissimo sentimento in questo pezzo... è come un Dipinto di Raffaello o una scultura del Canova...
Come tutti i lavori di mozart...
The tiny horn melody at 0:53 is one of the most beautiful parts of any piece I’ve ever heard
Merveilleux échange entre le piano les cordes et les vents... de bout en bout la grâce, l’élégance et la beauté
There is no stringed instrument here
only the piano and wind instruments
@@jesusmanriquezsantana1590
Thanks for the précision Jesus
SIMPLY LOVE AND BEAUTY
Fabulous playing from a truly all-star cast.
Brendan on piano, Heinz holliger on oboe!!!
The present musicians can't beat Mozart.
Невероятно! Потрясающе!
I reiterate Brian Bernstein's statement below: "One of the single greatest compositions in all classical music" --and that is not an exaggeration! That any human being could put together something so immeasurably intricate without sounding intricate --as if composed by a child-- boggles the mind. Yet that is the least of it. Beneath that classical veneer lies a singularly incomparable quality --how can i put it?-- YES: a divine naiveté --the defining characteristic of Mozart which is expressed "a la perfección" by this grand ensemble.
Music not from this world. Thanks for publishing!
The most beautiful piece that Mozart ever write!
24:02 absolutely amazing thing ! The winds crescendo result to the chord on the piano next measure, chord who sound naturally diminuendo, with the same timbre and colour than the winds...EVVIVA TRAZOM !
This piece never fails to make me smile...
Thanks, Wolfie!
Firstly, impressive, very nice. let's see Paul Alan's card. Secondly 0:42 amazing oboe note, literally the best way to voice a diminished 7th . thirdly 0:54 - 1:18 is absolutely blissful, an underused moment in the piece which is thoroughly beautiful.
С 0.54 до 1.18 мне с первого раза понравился также! Этот фрагмент совершенно невероятный!
The second movement is one of the most profound, mysterious and strangely beautiful pieces ever written.
Zac it is nice. It's amazing how the whole piece has an operatic character to it, similar to Carl Maria von Weber's pieces for clarinet and piano, and his own opus 34.
I couldn't agree more.
couldn't agree more with Mozart himself... One of the best opus he have ever written
Juan Manuel Sanchez and yet it's less attractive than the similarly scored Beethoven op. 16
@@timothythorne9464 Less attractive to whom? Critical opinion seems more favorably disposed to this work compared to the Beethoven.
Brian R. I prefer the Beethoven work, op. 16, particularly when scored as a piano quartet (piano w/ violin, viola and cello). This work is the best of its kind IMO
@@timothythorne9464 Hmm. I guess that's one of the main reasons I like this work more, then. The woodwind parts seem more essential to the piece as a whole, as a truly integrated chamber work. The themes written for them are idiomatic, with Mozart's ear for the timbral/sonoral capabilities of each woodwind instrument that he perfected from writing all those woodwind divertimenti. The Beethoven seems like a small scale piano concerto where the woodwind parts can be exchanged for other instruments.
Brian R. I'm giving the Mozart quintet another listen. Maybe I'm missing something. It's just the Beethoven piece really appeals to me, and the finale is so animated and catchy. But I'll run through the Mozart again before determining one is "better" than the other.
“"I have composed a Quintet for Oboe, Clarinet, Horn, Bassoon and Pianoforte, which has been received with extraordinary favor. (Kochel, No. 452.) I myself think it the best thing I ever wrote in my life."”
- Mozart: the man and the artist, as revealed in his own words by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
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A wonderful piece indeed, one of my all-time favorites, and an excellent performance here. But - I wonder how many time Mozart made a similarly enthusiastic statement about a piece he had just written?
that larghetto is inexplicably beautiful
The definitive performance of this work.
This is like the cutest and most innocent thing ever
If that’s all you hear I recommend another listen
Mozart was far from innocent!
@@bagochipsmusic5687 that's true :D but it doesn't mean that his music can't sound like that
@@chipichipichapachapa733 You're right! Like, if you don't understand German, Leck mich im Arsch is a beautiful innocent tune!
@@bagochipsmusic5687 This humour was prevalent back then. Even Chopin the INTROVERT had scatology in his letter. Children's lullabies were filled with poop jokes.
The modulation from B♭ major to e minor and back is amazing. (Development of second movement.)
I fully agrree with you.
Definitely one of the highlights from the whole piece. The transition from E minor to B-flat especially is supposed to be difficult (since they are literally farthest keys to each other) but he did it in a matter of several bars, during which the music still sounds all natural and flawless....like a champ. Pretty sure that's a part of why he is so proud of this particular piece.
He isn't B flat major, he's in E flat major starting at 15:33 when section "Q" starts. He uses C7 as a pivot chord, which is V/ii in E flat major and the augmented 6th chord of E minor. Our ears are expecting the C7 chord to resolve to F minor, the ii chord of E flat major, instead we get a cadential 64 chord in E minor. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but this is incredibly standard modulation up a minor 2nd interval. We'd expect E major to follow the dominant B chord, as E is the Neapolitan of E flat and would allow a very easy transition back to E flat major if desired. Following a B major chord with E minor instead of E major is as easy as 123, though I agree it provides a nice surprise.
The modulation from E minor back to B flat is pretty cool though... using C major and D minor as little islands to jump on, sandwiched in between dual functioning diminished chords. C major even sounds like fresh harmony here, even though he used it to modulate to E minor literally five seconds earlier.
Gosh, what lovely music, and played by this group with such attention to nuances of dynamics. As for the writing, I especially love how, in the middle movement, the development in the development section is almost not as intricate as the "development" that he cooks up for the recapitulation!
Marc Vincenti
Yes, Mozart always had little 'tricks' like this up his sleeve :)
Mozart's lovely, miraculous music. Perfect and divine and borne of love. He put his entire heart and soul into this quintet!
He told his father it was best thing hed done!
This is one my all-time favourite Mozart`s chamber works,because I love the wind instruments as well as the piano,especially the second movement is so beautifully well-performed and well played.
What did an impressed person have to say about this piece? I'm blown away by this.
As English novelist, Thomas Love Peacock affirmed, “there is nothing perfect in this world except Mozart’s music.”
Only famous intrprets (Brendel, Holliger !!!) have contributed to this recording of the very beautiful and elegant quintet of Mozart for piano and winds. The invention and the sense of tones of Mozart ids very rich, as we can hear in that awesome rrecording.
Here we have my Topp team,only to say to olla-vogala,You have a very good taste!!
In terms of musical "deepness", this quintet was writtten rather for friends and aristocratic sociaty. So, it does not have the "deepness" of the string quintets or the piano quartets. Nevertehelss, this is by no ways a "weak" point but a deliberate choice of a genius, and the outcome is nothing else than a top level work, much better thazn for instance Beethoven's similar work op. 16.The 'dialectic use' of piano and winds is unprecedented in my opinion before XXth century (Stravinsky, Hindemith, Webern, French music by Milhaud and Poulenc). The genuis of Mozart had many faces: you can hear it for uinstance in his operars 'Don Giovanni' or 'Die Zauberflöte'. One of the most outstanding harmonic analysis books which I know (in French or English) is the (unfortunalmtely) poorly known 'Antitraité d'Harmonie' by Mrs Andreani, ranging from Monteverdi to Debussy and Ravel. In a key section, one of the leading scores that she chose as a guideline through the entire section is this score and no else by Mozart. When I was younger, this book brought me a lot in getting a high level vision of tonal harmony as a whole - rather than Schoenberg's of Schrecker's books. .
I wouldn't be surprised that Mozart thought this his best piece yet if the performers in the premiere also did such an exhilarating accelerando al fine.
Yes the composer wrote his father best thing he'd done so far. Thats saying a LOT given the composers already massive oevre
An absolute beauty
Beauté de ... W.A.Mozart et de ses interprètes ici.
A masterpiece! Beethoven wrote a piece for the same instruments and it was a paean to Mozart but this is, at least in my opinion, far better. The horn melodies are sumptuous. And this is an all star group performing. Mozart also wrote amazing music for the clarinet.
It was said that this was his (Mozart's) favorite. Hence, that is the reason for my being here.
Yes indeed! You can read it in my video description :)
He really thought so and so he was right !
Maybe he was drunk af
@@Primalrage76 Maybe he was just absolutely right.
In a letter to his father he confessed proudly that he considered this piece his best UNTIL THEN (1784)
Magnificent!
So sublime. This is my favorite version of this beautiful piece.
Bea,
how many versions did you actually heard that you can state that this is your favorite version?---there are the catalog about 25 recordings, if not more, for this wonderful piece ...( see Amazon)
Cool.
Mozart for President!
Exquisite performance!
Even without a great recording (clarinet is always "far"), great interpretation and great listening!
Thanks for uploading these masterpieces! ❤
Instrumentistas de peso. Esse quinteto é uma das criações em que Mozart nos legou belas melodias, ricas sonoridades.
Listening to the second movement, I just sit there with mouth agape as did Salieri in the movie "Amadeus," and ask myself "How could any human being create such music?
La crème de la crème - R.I.P. Eduard Brunner
So sad...
The melody played by the oboe @1:34 coincidentally sounds like the beginning of Beethoven's 7th symphony with the melody also played by oboe.
Yes there are a lot of elements from this piece that we can find in several concertos of Beethoven !
Thank you. This is beautiful.
This seems like a good photoshoot music. This and a flowing river.
sublime creativity🌠
Having listened to both this and Beethoven’s opus 16, the former definitely surpasses the latter. Mozart’s seems so much more subtle, and texturally pleasant.
Is there some reason these two pieces should compare?
@@will8026 Yeah bitch. They're both quintets for piano and wind. Send me your skull measurements... NOW!
Neither cute nor innocent. Particularly the 2nd movement is the heaven on earth.
+olla-vogala
Thank you for sharing. Beautiful!
My pleasure!
作曲した本人が、最高傑作というものがコレです。
Divine
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SInce when is a horn a wind instrument? I've never got this.
10:46 sounds so pop music
How?
Yeah cause it hints at a pop V - IV - I progression (though actually it's just an ornamental device since there's very little melody over it and the bass remains on scale degree 1).
Amazing
It amuses me that Beethoven at an early stage in his career attempted a homage to this piece.
que belleza dios mio !!
Yes!
0:53 Está parte parece compuesta por el mismísimo Dios 🥰🥰🥰
Absulte beauty...😭
3rd movement development starts at 21:90
22:00 actually
Why is the Clarinet in Bb not written as "Clarinetto in Sib/Bs" in the score (at the very beginning) ? I feel like there should be an 's' after the 'B' instead of "Clarinetto in Sib/B." I'm trying to get better at orchestration and I want to make sure that I am not missing something. Thank you so much ! :)
It’s because In Germany, the note 'B' is called 'H', while 'B flat' is called 'B' ;)
Yo I actually want to learn this it sounds really cool
On which instrument?
I ask because I frequently play it on clarinet.
A 15:35, que cette phrase est belle...
This is basically a Mozart piano concerto without strings.
I think that would better describe Beethoven's quintet for piano and winds where the piano is dominant throughout. This composition is a true ensemble piece for 5 instruments. Even in the cadenza of the last movement, the woodwinds enter first.
This is basically a Mozart opera without the vocal parts
This is basically a Mozart mass without the church.
2nd movement horn solo starts the development at 15:32.
ugh!! beauty
0:53
The beginning is simple. All five instruments enter at the same time and then piano escorts the rest. Horn and basoon take over with the heavenly voice. The sweet and light allegretto reminds sinfonia concertante.
Is horn a wind?
Yessss
11:40 14:09 18:20
waaaaahhhhu
but play it over and over again
10:11 Mvt II
11:51
Oh Fritz!please fetch me water and a plate of onions your heiness
Vi prego.... restituiteci Mozart!
2:22
Can anyone give me any information about the score used here?? I searches through internet, and IMSLP, but found no usable full score.
+Sayantan Dutta This is the score I used, from IMSLP: javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/1/11/IMSLP135968-PMLP51439-Mozart_Quintet_K452_score.pdf
Yes I just found it...It is titled just Piano Score, I thought it is just the piano part...but when I found the Beethoven Quintet OP 16, in full score named Piano Part, I found it too...
Thank you.
Ce serait encore mieux si les musiciens respectaient davantage le texte. Pourquoi ce changement de tempo dans la conclusion du finale ?
Es lebe Sarastro!
Is this written for an Eb horn as opposed to an F horn?
I think so because in the score as usual the horn is written without accidents.
Third movement is a little fast?
22:58
19:47
Mozärtich gespielt ...
14:24
maybe not his best but it's up there...
5:30 Bach mass in B minor?
10:11
It would be better without the freaking stupid and noisy ads...
Che nervi la pubblicità che parte un secondo prima dell'accordo finale. Maledetti.
Io l'ho appena ascoltato e non c'è stata nessuna interruzione.
Mi ero lamentato per lo stesso motivo con un releaser.
Mi ha risposto che non dipendeva da lui la scelta del momento e la quantità delle interruzioni pubblicitarie. Si è anche scusato.
una delle composizioni più pallose della storia della musica
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The effect is not the same after a Berg's opus and another Mozart's.
To me Berg's music is beautiful in an other way.