AVRO ARROW vs WAR - BATTLE FOR RANKIN INLET (PART 1)
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2019
- Part 1 of the "Battle for Rankin Inlet"
(Series Link - • AVRO ARROW vs F 35 & F 18 )
NOTE: This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events and incidents are either the products of the author’s imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
I have a vague memory of my father taking me to an airfield when we were travelling from CFB Esquimalt to CFB Halifax when I was about 2 years of age. He was in the RCN and had been re-assigned, so the family took a trailering trip across Canada in a yellow Shasta Trailer. We stopped outside of this airfiled and I remember him saying that something very important was happening there. We parked for awhile and I remember hearing and seeing a jet aircraft take off in the distance . Then my father drove us away and onward to our next destination. The time of the trip and locations we drove through seem to fit the Arrow test flight schedule so in my mind that jet will always be the Arrow.
I think it only flew from Malton airport (now Pearson) so either it was there, or perhaps Trenton (if it ever landed there). Great memory BTW.
@@mikejaynekennedy4790 As I was very young I don't know the exact route we took except that we visited with relatives on the Prairies, Winnipeg, multiple Ontario locations including the Toronto region and Hamilton, Detroit, and then onto the Maritimes. It was a month long relocation trip so I imagine we were on the road for at least three weeks with our blue '52 Ford (Bluebell) and the Yellow Shasta travel trailer (Buttercup). Vehicle nicknames in brackets. I know from pictures that we crossed the border with the US a number of times during the trip but since my parent are long passed it's only pictures and memories that tell the story. Unfortunately no pictures of the Arrow flight. I remember that when we came back after six months we were assigned to CFB Matsqui in British Columbia which was (and is) a communications hub for the west coast naval fleet.
THANK YOU! Another great story to watch. Can't wait for part two. Just think of how GREAT Canada would be today if they kept the AVRO Arrow. Industry would be so advanced today, jobs and so much more.
The Yanks never did respect us, but they sure as hell FEARED what the AVRO Arrow could do for Canada. Which would have made them a lot less than 2nd rate to Canada. Isn't it nice to have thoughts of how GREAT it could have been for Canadians.
Hi Johnboyu....Thanks for the comment. I am sure you will really like Ep. 6. I will release it end of the month. regards.....Virtual
WOW - you've got a winner here! :)
Hi Merle, Thanks....but this episode really only sets up Ep. 6. I am working on the the ending of that episode. The episode will blow all the others away. regards.....Virtual
Ohhh yes, this is looking good. Perfect, the UK and France have arrived!! Technically the US is involved with the CIA helping Canada. Can't wait to see the actual battle. I hope ground units are also involved.
HI WCR...I don't think you will be disappointed with Ep. 6. Should be out by the end of this month. regards...Vitual
Yahoo. It's here. Thanks.
I want to thank you for these videos. Very well done, very educational, very entertaining.
They keep reminding me of how badly Dief the Chief and his party screwed up.
They keep reminding me of what we could have had -- nay, what we could still have.
A country that cannot feed itself, starves, and is not a nation. And one that cannot defend itself, may enjoy that fate also. The last several governments have done us a disservice. We should have, long ago, re-done the Arrow. And kept improving it as time went on.
We stopped because USAS and Soviet interests did not want it, and NASA wanted all those engineers and techs, and their knowledge and abilities.
Take Care, LL:AP.
PS they are VERY WELL DONE!
Thank you P.M. I will release Ep. 6 in a few weeks or so. I think you will really like the next one. Ep. 5 is the set-up for a pretty wild Ep. 6 and a stunning admission of sorts. regards....Virtual
@@Virtualenvirons I await on the edge of my seat. And I often share these! (I was an Arrow freak as a kid. Still am. The vids make me cry each time, but THAT is NOT your fault!)
BTW. Good dialog and music. Good plots.
Love the piano. Wish I had the sound files. Do you play it yourselves?
Hi P.M. There is only me in these creations. I have colleague who is the foremost expert on the Arrow who I brainstorm with on the scenarios for plausibility. I cold not do these without his help. But, I make all the visuals myself.
The really nicely recorded music was done by my uncle who unfortunately has passed. He was a concert pianist. I write the other arrangements and record on an iPad only. HIs were recorded in a studio. He was very gifted. regards....Virtual
@@Virtualenvirons FIRST, my condolences on the loss of your supremely talented Uncle. he played the piano so well in these vids, and the music is so well chosen, that I also watch just to listen. It helps my depression!
Second: Regards to your colleague!
And, WOW! You are one HELLA talented person! I found two music pieces on the channel, and some other vids. I do not know how I discovered you but it was a LUCKY day. ,I may look ar some of the other vids. I hade never gone to the videos page!
THANKS AGAIN. Just sent a link to my adopted bro in Sweden. He is a history buff, like me. Will look for the book locally (Sudbury) when it comes out. (Likely a special order!) Thanks again!
@@PierreaSweedieCat Thank you P.M. The books are not mine, they are authors who have asked to have their books associated with this channel. They can be ordered anytime.
As to some other movies, check out Vimy Ridge. The Army contracted me to reconstruct the battle field and trenching as they were in 1917. Then they asked if I could do a synopsis of the Battle, etc. I think you will like it. regards....Virtual
I do not have a musical bone in my body, but your piano playing is really nice. I love the Arrow, but I sleep to your score.
This is great
Pretty sure the arrow would not keep uo in dog fight in anything made after the 2000 but might have a chance with thrust retiring tech abd speed but would be a great inter enter abs strategic strick bomber not fight
The question today, will Russia declare a nuclear war againt's the world, NO. a conventional war, not after the Ukraine. A general in the U.S. army said after capturing Germany "keep moving east towards Moscow" nope? he was right. Love what could have been, well done Virt
an American general NO . But Churchill was promoting the idea
Not only a great story, but talk about a sound track
Hi Felipe. Well thank you. The really good music was played my by uncle and recorded in a studio. He was a concert pianist. The other stuff I arranged and recorded on my iPad, so it pales by comparison. He was a great pianist. Thanks for watching.....regards.....Virtual
Base gets bombed. People calmly walking. It is Canada after all.
whens part 2 coming what a story
Hi Dana, Thank you. It won't be long and I don't think you will be disappointed with part 2. I am hoping for a few weeks, but I have to take a trip, so possibly early Nov. regards...Virtual
Can't you include the section which includes the upgrade to the Iroquois engine
HI Mike Once the movies are uploaded they are set in stone forever. regards...Virtual
Oh c'mon, America would be the first ones to help Canada and everyone knowes it. Timber really?
Hi Joseph. Well, that is true as of yesterday at around 2:00 pm. But, for the last ~ four years.....not so much. regards....Virtual
You made a mistake with the bombers. They should have been going to the major centers of Canada, like Ottawa. Not toward the states.
HI Ivor. What episode or movie are you referring to. There are no bombers in this Episode. regards...Virtual
Bull shit the user was all ways targeting USA not Canada the guy does a great job on these make sure you are correct befor you criticize
And how the Americans turn such a blind eye to this?
Blue....I need a question that is formed in some way that I can respond please. regards...Virtual
@@Virtualenvirons what I mean that in this series, is that why the Americans are so willing to callously force the Canadians to cancel the Avro Arrow, yet refuse to defend them when Russia attack? Some friend and some ally!
@@att1743 Hi Blue. I like the American People, but the American government and the industrial influence on them......not so much. Also, it is not clear Trump would help us unless there was a direct threat to the U.S. and he is very friendly with Putin who may have something on him.
We are friends and allies, but lately the friendship is strained....again Trump. In the series though I realized something. The U.S.A. does not really protect us. We protect them. The only way Bombers can get to the Northern U.S. is through Canada and we would shoot them down, so who protect who? regards...Virtual
@@Virtualenvirons Of course, the American government is thinking about itself. But when Russian bombers hit American towns (highly doubtful even in this situation), the American government can only blame themselves.
@@att1743 Hi Blue. The original reason to keep the Americans out of the series was to demonstrate how vulnerable Canada is without the Americans. We rely on them too much. Having said that, I am not America bashing. Like I said, the American people are good people, but they really don't know what is going on in the World. America could be compared to a fishbowl. The view from the fishes point of view is quite peaceful, but outside the fishbowl.....mayhem is everywhere. regards....Virtual
Previous to the twentieth century, American forces had attacked Canadian territories many times, sometimes involving forces which outnumbered the entire population of Canada. Amazingly, though luck and sometimes military prowess, the invaders were always turned away. A superficial analysis of the history of Europeans in North America demonstrates that the peoples originally known as les Canadiens had staved off domination and annexation by the thirteen American colonies, first with the assistant and deterrent influence of Imperial France, and later that of the British Empire.
It should come as no surprise, then, that previous to WW II Canada’s primary war plan called for defence against US invasion. This was backed up by vigilance against US domination of Canadian foreign and economic policy. This stance on the part of the Canadians ‘’establishment’’ reflected the economic interests of those with power. These policies cannot be considered an extreme response because America’s war plans up to 1931, were primarily concerned with displacing the United Kingdom as the most powerful global actor, and envisioned invading Canada with four armies and removing it from the British Empire. Concurrently depriving Britain of control of Canada’s strategic resources and gaining these enormous assets for themselves was the “win-win” situation envisioned. ((Granatstein: paper on US influence on the Canadian military))
The tactic of playing one side against the other, while selling to both arms, is also described In China the munitions companies reported that there was a certain amount of feeling between the Central [Nanking] Government and the Canton Government. The Boeing agent was able to sell 10 planes to the Canton Government. Referring to the Nanking (recognized) Government, he wrote: “Their anger at us in selling airplanes to the Cantonese is more than offset by the fact that the Cantonese have gotten ahead of them and will have better equipment than they will have. In other words, the Canton sale is quite a stimulant to the sale up here [in Nanking].” Boeing replied to their agent; “it is to our advantage to successfully conclude the business if for no other reason but for the effect it would have on the Nanking Government.” (Nye Committee Report, section V para. 16-17)
Perhaps the worst of all, certain munitions and chemical companies had assisted future belligerents arm themselves to fight their home countries --- and had profited from both sides in the process. John Foster Dulles was directly involved in Du Pont’s questionable dealings in the 1920’s --- deals that were “winked at” by the State Department. (Mosley, Leonard: Dulles, p. 92) Allen Welsh Dulles was a member of the US delegation in 1925 and his papers always pleaded for a relaxation of the arms limitation elements of the Treaty of Versailles (Mosley Leonard: A Biography of Eleanor, Allen, and John Foster Dulles and Their Family Network New York: The Dial Press, 1978 p.p. 71-72)
The Du Pont representatives ... later remark of the final draft of the convention regarding the arms traffic signed at Geneva: “There will be some few inconveniences to the manufacture of munitions in their export trade, but in the main they will not be hampered materially.” Electric Boat Co. patents were used in German submarines, Several US aviation companies had helped arm Japan for their conquest of Manchuria, and the Focke Wulf FW-190 fighters used American Pratt & Whitney engines built by BMW under licence.
Excellent synopsis of the influence of American Arms producers globally over the last hundred years. regards...Virtual
In your video you showed that the USA was afraid of Canada attacking them with the Arrow, I found that hard to believe! However, with a little research you proved me wrong “LOL”, so I just had to post what I found!
@@jim100ab9 Good stuff. In the scene with the joints chiefs I make it clear that the U.S. has a contingency plan for any attack from anywhere. That is just good planning on their part. Russia, England, France, etc. probably do also. For the military, It comes down to the "could they" and not the "would they" and without question an Arrow Mark 3 could have hit Washington with Iron Bombs.
I am putting the finishing touches of Ep. 6, which is the real Episode for the Battle of Rankin Inlet. I can tell you this Jim, you won't be disappointed. I will likely release it in the first few days of Nov. regards...Virtual
I think that most Canadians know of the attacks on Canada back in 1812. However, to think that the USA our greatest ally would have been planning to attack us with four armies for our resources right up to 1931 is hard for me to take. I guess that they found that buying up as much of our companies and resources as they could, while killing companies that they couldn’t buy “AVRO” was easier. The real problem is the USA is still trying to interfere and control Canada (as well as other countries) to this very day. I said it before so I’ll say it again!
Dam the torpedoes, politicians and our neighbours to the south, let’s roll up our sleeves and get on with defending ourselves again!
Why? Why the Russians in this series, are so stupid to attack?
Hi Blue....Well I guess we would not have a series without them. There are many underlying currents in this series. There is the 1958 story as to why the Arrow was cancelled, the abilities of the Arrow are better explained, but there is also the fact that Canada cannot defend itself and in particular the North. regards....Virtual
@@Virtualenvirons I get the feeling that if the Russians think they can get away with something then they'll do it.
@@easybeat I suppose they would, most countries do, but the Russians are different than most. They are not afraid of what the rest of the world thinks. Sometimes I wish Canada was more like that. I don't really view the Russians as a threat to us, it would be their Stalingrad to come across our Arctic. I needed an adversary that was very formidable and there they were. The other thing they provide is the Admiral Kuznetsov. Unlike American Carriers the Admiral Kuznetsov can defend itself. The more I learned about that design to be quite honest, the more I liked it. Unfortunately in reality, it is getting very run down, but the Russian Carrier is more like a Missile Battle Cruiser with forty jet fighters. Canada could use one of those. regards....Virtual
HI Hua. I think you have that wrong. The Admiral Kuznetsov is a missile firing, defensive Battle Cruiser that carries high performance fighters, helo's, etc. It is it's own battle group of sorts. It could not defeat an American Battle group, but if it met an American Aircraft Carrier by itself without support, Kuznetsov would likely kill it......regards....Virtual