New York clubbing around 1983/4. The emerging 'dance music' scene takes hold in NYC.
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- This is a special feature from a UK programme 'The Tube' broadcast in the early 80's. The presenters are Jools Holland & Leslie Ash. This excerpt try's to give a brief insight into the current New York dance club scene. It features famous clubs such as the Paradise Garage, Danceteria, The Roxy and a quick outside look at the grunge/rock club CBGB.
I was 23-24 years old at this time, clubbing three or four times a week, every week!!! I bought all the records showcased here like Peech Boys, Quando Quando, the Jamaica Girls....it was a very special and pivotal time in Dance music or what we called "Club Music". Chicago House was about to pounce upon the NYC/NJ scene in about 4 to 6 months. The Paradise Garage was everything at this time...Larry Levan was slaying week after week...introducing the latest Italo-Disco cuts, UK imports (British Jazz Funk, Funky New Wave & Synth-Pop), then all the tunes coming out of NYC indie dance labels like West End, Salsoul, Beckett, Prelude, etc. It was an amazing time and I'm so glad that I was there to experience it all! Mudd Club, Pyramid Club, Reggae Lounge, Funhouse (I went once...more of a Funk Garage/Zanzibar head), of course, Danceteria, Better Days, The Loft on 99 Prince St., and Melons.
yup the loft and freds king st parking garage was my church from 82-87 . clubbing in the 80s was great times. great clubs
Don't feel bad about only getting to FUNHOUSE once , i been to the PARADISE GARAGE and LOFT ONLY ONCE ☹,but never been to the FUNHOUSE , LATIN QUARTERS or THE ROOFTOP. Been to NIEL'S ,JUSTINE'S AND ANDRE'S once also, but ZANZIBAR was my main main spot(85 to 90).
@@johnpetty9310 Whassup John! How are you? I haven’t seen you in over 20 years. I glad to see you’re still in the mix and commenting on our scene. I’m about to do an interview with Kenny Bobien on the 11th of June for New Generation Records. Do you still live in NYC?
@@clubhead433 NO, I'm in Portland Oregon (long story 🤣) but ima visit in July. Both NJ and Brooklyn.
@@johnpetty9310 I would love to link up with when you come to NJ in July. You should come around the time in July of the Lincoln Park Festival.
Just got done reading "l:ife and Death On The New York Dancefloor 1980-1983" by Tim Lawrence...
I was already drawn to so much of the music. That's whole damn reason I picked up the book.
But learning about this scene was so inspiring. Dreaming of what a night, the dancefloor, a club can be. Happy with what I got to work with today, but damn, do wish I woulda been there..
A completely magical place and time. So many elements intersecting to create something that, surely, was a new nirvana, peak living, transcendence...
I won't spend too many words on what it was (I wasn't there!!)
But if I was, I surely woulda have been dancing well past sunrise...
I want to read this book. I grew up night clubbing as a 15 year old it was amazing Danceteria was my first club. Down the block was another spot called silver shadow. There were so many places in NYC too go to. I can’t begin to tell you how fun it was. I didn’t drink or do drugs. I just danced. In 1996 the club scene was dead. This video is absolutely just what it was like. That elevator in Danceteria where the quick interview was done brings back memories.
check out this must be the the place good book about clubbing and nyc scene from 1950s to today
I just bought the book and didn’t grow up in NYC, but we had a pretty great club scene in San Francisco and I was keeping up with the club scene in NZyC from a far. I did get finally get to visit NYC and caught much of east was going on in 87. I do regret not going to the paradise garage and got a flyer for but didn’t know about the Garage back then. The whole city was so exciting and so much going on everywhere. Glad I got to witness it and NYC was so much better than I expected,
Hard to believe the 80s were 40 years ago.
Time flies! ✌
I'm an 85 baby
Your comment reminds me of something i'd hear older people from the 1950's & 1960's say about hanging out up in HARLEM, back when JAMES BROWN ,SAM COOKE and ARETHA were in their Heyday. When i last spoke with someone in the 1990's, who partied then they'd say : WOW , I CAN'T BELIEVE THE 1960's WERE ONLY 30 YEARS AGO!!! What i can't put into words was THE WAY THEY EXPLAINED IT & THE LOOK ON THEIR FACES!!!
It was an amazing time.
The music, TV, movies, haging out @ the Mall. Long live the 80's.
Still not bettered, the most vibrant time of music. There were great acts like ESG on Factory records (Manchester).
Red Parrot, 1018, 4D, Zenons, Lime Lite, Magique, Starbucks, Underground, Palladium, Cat Club, Roxy, Fun House, Ritz, Tunnel, Beat Street Sqeeze, Visage, Danceteria, Leviticus, Bentleys, Garage, Private Eyes, Nirvana, & Studio 54....GOOD TIMES, GREAT MEMORIES!!!
You Don't Remember Crisco on West 15th Street
Costco on West 15th, The Driveway, Tom Tom’s Club, Walmart, The 69 Bathouse, Jonny’s Gin, 711, Sam’s Club, MacDonald’s, Wendy’s, now that’s what I call a party scene THOSE WERE THE DAYS
When the love of my life met the only place that I remember is 12West which had one of the best sound systems
I’ve ever heard. As far as sound goes a lot depends on the material that you’re
surrounded with. I can remember when the dance floor was empty, your sound
pressure level was way down and as the
place began to fill up, so went the SPL.
The first time I got behind two Techniques turntables, I was in heaven.
@@michaelboccino5251 Yes, I do recall Crisco on W 14th St. It didn’t last long
Nailed it!
I’ve been to the Loft… Xenon…Funhouse…Zanzibar…Limelight…but when it came to sound systems. Paradise Garage. Was a regular. It was in another dimension compared to all rest. By far.
God Bless everyone who survived the 70s/80s...Im still here in 2024!! RIP to all that passed, we are in queue, but until then, lets love~
The shape of that cab's windows (which gives us a sense of the year and make), The Police's Every Breath You Take on the cab radio (radio!) and the streetlight windshield washer: a time capsule in seconds.
Thanks for posting this classic tube new york club special !! Remember watching this show back in either it was october or november 1983.
The Legendary Crazy Legs of Rock Steady! true NYC LEGENDS!!!
🤓 Hey YOU !! ROCK STEADY CREW !!
Hard to believe most of the people here are probably around 60 by now... and they were just so young and hip then!
👍👍👍
I can’t believe I was there at that time and had such a great time and am still here!
this was great lots of energy i miss this type of energy coming from this time so eclectic and adenturous
The "Apache" scene with the b-boys is fantastic
If you want more beautiful footage like that from the early 80s watch the docs Style Wars, Looking For The Perfect Beat, and another longer UK doc “Big Fun In The Big Town”. I know I’m forgetting one or two..
*classic* So much fun in NYC during that time.
i feel like i just went back in time. this is so cool man.
WTF happened to us? There was some issues, but really if you think about it, ALL people were just nicer back then.
No real racial sh-t, people had manners and MUCH better music. Why can't it be that way again??
@@j.j.j9152 Its the Media World and Internet ,Phones with Cams and and .... different world back then.Everyone is trying to say or show something today no matter if it makes sense or not.Too much output but no quality.😎😉😉😉
the second they shows the Klaus Nomi stuff i got a little sad knowing that he had just passed not long before. always cool to see some vintage footage from The Roxy and Danceteria and a little bit of the Break groups. and of course the empty front of CBGB a little after its heyday.
That hit me really hard as well. Klaus passed away in early August of 1983 😢
loved seeing Mark Kamins segment in Danceteria...nice film, thanks for uploading!
3:34 Mark Kamins was the DJ that Madonna gave her demo reel of "Everybody" to and the rest is history!
While i never been to DANCETIERIA, i remember people telling me that madonna used hang out there (BEFORE she became MADONNA to the world), which i'm not really really surprised, many people from all over hung out in NYC back then. She just happened to have the ambitious soul and acted on it.
Wow, this is gold. Thx for the upload!
Dear..God! the soundtrack to this clip! NYC was a Blast! London too! 1983!!
😂 they _absolutely_ edited in the audio of decent scratching when the British woman was giving it a try on the record
I absolutely love Arthur Baker and Tina B. Thanks for sharing!
WOW, I wish I was an older teen back then. I was born in '84. listening to what PLJ was playing then, if only they'd play that good music now!!
As a oldie😂, there is some good stuff out there, but you really have to go out and seek it.
The Garage portion made my hairs do jumping jacks,hilarious how these two squares played it down!
Good 'ole New York...before it changed.
Brings Back Wonderful Memories.
awesome upload - some serious archival footage here, danceteria, roxy and the garage... what a tour! but they left the garage and it was dark :-( you supposed to leave in the morning man!
freds king st parking garage was my church 82-87
Love videos like this , back in the good times
I wonder if I'll see me in here. 1983-1985 I practically lived at Danceteria, or so I recall. We were all so cute back then. Does anyone remember Liz the bartender? Short black hair, always wore black leather, she had icy dark eyes and would stare people down as if she could freeze them solid right then and there. I was enchanted by her. I'd forego dancing and mingling to just sit at the bar and watch her. I think she kind of adopted me for a while. She never let anyone mess with me. And she'd let me catch some sleep at her place while I was waiting for my train. I miss that woman. That dark goddess. Oh and her former profession was shocking and yet alluring to me. I always regret losing track of her...
Liz Connor, she passed away apx 4 , 5:years ago
So in the 80s there was no stupid rock vs rap war? People just listened to whatever they wanted to as long as it sounded good?
yes.
Nice footage wane blitz float committi still putting in that work 2021 and still overlooked burnone all day small peace of the puzzle
Let me just add, Leslie Ash is a actress, mostly on TV in the UK at the time. Jools Holland was a band member of a UK group 'Squeeze'. This show (The Tube) was broadcast for several years, filming in the North East of the UK. Although, the two Brits seem out of place? I would suggest that the UK broadcaster (Channel 4) was keen to see the underground side of NYC, which is in total contrast to large swathes of US media, who pretended the underground scene wasn't there? The UK music scene has long had a very close association with the States. In fact, House Music flourished in the UK, while it was ignored in the US by most network radio stations. Many House/Techno 'US' DJs travelled around the US pretty much unknown ... whilst in the UK they had become iconic with the youth of that time. It has taken nearly 30 years for the mass audience of the US to get on board with 'Dance Music' in a modern form. The only downside is the US music companies have tried to dilute the original 'underground' sound, originally feature in the above video and thereafter. The tag 'EDM' is the media mainstream version of dance music ...
I'd agree with most of this except Jools was already more than just the piano player in Squeeze by this time, he was more known for TV presenting, the Tube had been going for a while before this broadcast. Squeeze were fronted by Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook, Jools wasn't known 'for' the band. He's gone on to be probably the most well-known music presenter on the BBC. Leslie Ash had a very celebrated lead role in Quadrophenia and was known for this before her TV roles. Quadrophenia and the mod culture was the basis of the 'tribal rites of the Saturday Night' article by Nic Cohn which was adapted as the screenplay of Saturday Night Fever, which is a strong link between those similar working class dance music cultures in the US and UK. US techno got a straightforward advantage in the UK when journalist Neil Rushton created Network Records and released Detroit techno compilations to the UK and got artists like Derrick May (who he managed) publicity in trendy UK magazines like The Face.
Nice video. Any chance you’re familiar with Iolo from Danceteria? He produced an EP for a NY based trio called Male Model. I can’t find any mention of the band anywhere!
This is essential. Wow ♥ NYC.
I started clubbing when I was 13 in the mid 80s, cuz i hung out w myy cousins who were 18+. Back then the drinking age was 18+, and clubs really didnt care. You'd get a fake ID on 42nd Street and it got you pretty much into any venue. As long as you dressed decent and acted mature they didn't care. Roxy and Devils Nest were my spots. Im from Queens and then L'Amour East (a rock club in Queens) started doing club nights, so started to hang out there as lur first stop before heading to the city or the Bronx. Wild times. I remember Jellybean @ The Funhouse and hitting Pyramid for some drinks
started clubbing at 14 lol my older sisters boyfriend new lots of people and so i got in without any questions lol and the rest is history ….no regrets
Check out....The New York Dolls at the 82 Club in New York.....from 10 years before this, Bowie, Ferry and other rockers would go there....it was a disco that played an mix of rock, new wave, and dance music......there was also Max's Kanas City.no dancing there but they did have bands......These were emerging clubs before 54 and CBGB....There were other discos Le Jardin was one.
def have been to 82 club
Paradise Garage...original underground NYC mecca whence came house music later. He was right to mention that tracks would become popular later, first at places like the Garage then the mainstream experienced it later via house music.
Fred's king street parking garage was my church 82 tol 87
Even though it's only a movie 🎬 ... THEE BEST showing of ROXY was in BEAT STREET.
My favorite thing about this vid is how it shows just how progressive America was going back to the 80's. Gen z is so clueless. They aren't doing anything that hasn't been done before
Gen Z? Surely you’re referring to Millenials?
😂 is that right? That European guy said “I really like music with transvestites playing accordion or something that feels homely” and the American interviewer was like “uhhh yeah sure”
you idiots ruined climate change i bet you still believe the earth is flat 😂😂😂😂😂
... i born i'm 1987 and people in your age is so Boomer now
@@erenyeager8299 how does one “ruin climate change”?
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Dam No One Remembers Crisco Disco West 15th Nyc- I Worked There it Was an After Hours From 12 Midnight to 10am in the Morning Where Do You Think Everyone Went After All the Other Clubs Closed at 4am ' We Were Always Packed With A 15 Foot Crisco Can With Famous Djs and A Light Man on the Top With Technic 1200 Tables '
i remember i lived on 20th and 10th then
Even though he's dead and gone ,i have to keep giving LARRY his props & praise for keeping DISCO ALIVE, when most others were moving on musically, and YES he did play the new sound that was coming in and all the rest, but STRAIGHT DISCO , the PHILLY SOUND, the MOTOWN SOUND and other Hot Tracks of the 1970's,MEL CHEREN said of LARRY playing SYLVESTER'S music: LARRY LITERALLY WORE THE GROOVES OUT ON THE VINYL HE PLAYED OF SYLVESTER ,like at the time of this video, some of the music played at the GARAGE was 10 to 15 YEARS OLD ... ALREADY !!! And we (at least "i") absolutely LOVED IT !!!! Matter of fact I STILL BUY OLD DISCO RECORDS to this day!!!!!! My girlfriend at the time ,is 10 years older than me (i was 18, she was 28 ), and was in her late teens when DISCO was THEE ONLY MUSIC, she said of me liking Disco: IN ANOTHER LIFE YOU DIED IN A THREE PIECE SUIT AND ON A DANCE FLOOR 🕺 💃 SOMEWHERE, HOW COULD YOU LOVE DISCO THAT MUCH !!!!!
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTT ???? THATS JOOL HOLLAND IN THE CAB
I WAS THERE!!! (in spirit). I was actually 13/14 and living in Shepherds Bush.
More likely 50ish since most of these people were in their late teens early to mid 20s at the time. Arthur Baker excepted.
they did sort of,the music video "confusion" that arthur baker played was filmed in the funhouse. the funhouse was represented.ny clubs in the 80's ,historic and if you werent there..you missed it..awesome video .thanks for uploading,a real treasure..too bad clubs in nyc cant compare.peace to all clubheads, old school.
Technics 1200s. Still the best
Technics 1500MK2 - 1900MK2 models are just as good.
i was in grad school in ny during this time
never stepped foot in a club
the people that worked there and created the atmosphere your the best
GREATTTTT!!! thanx for uploading this!!:)
Shock when New Order popped up. Transported from NYC to Manchester in a second.
Klaus Nomi died at the Sloan Kettering Hospital Center in New York City on August 6, 1983, as a result of complications from AIDS. He was one of the earliest known figures from the arts community to die from the illness.[21][22] Nomi's close friend Joey Arias was executor of his estate.[23] Nomi's ashes were scattered in New York City.[11]
i miss these days
ny is filled w/ posers not pretending to be from here
if u weren't here before the later 90s u dont know what it was like so stop it
You know . . .i wish i was able to go out in NYC at the time of this clip,im not to disapointed cause i did get in on the partying that took place a few years after this (ZANZIBAR and PARADISE GARAGE
Too bad they didn't hit the Funhouse ... That would have awakened them ...
Must. build. timemachine.
Arthur Baker said he was producing for his wife, the one and only Tina B...
9:20 The Legendary Arthur Baker !
Great upload!
Joy Division and then New order returned the music to NY via Italy and Manchester which is pretty cool😉👌🇮🇹🗽
my 2 fave bands besides 2 others ; )
These kids of today have no clue on the great times & fun we had back in the day. Sad.
This was fantastic thanks!
Pretty cool, so much culture must be forgotten
Wow. Thank you so much for posting this.
"This is the real sort of American cab driver." So funny when the presenter says that.
Ah. What happened to New York? There's nothing like this anymore. It's been whitewashed and the fun driven out.
@21:38. I couldn’t imagine waiting until 4-4:30 in the morning just to hear this
I would have loved Danceteria and Paradise Garage the best!
at 14:00 jools hits a (then hidden) mark, they're actually talking about ''house-music'' as we now know it..
luvin every sec of this video..thanks for this!!
Wow 1 night! Unbelievable!
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Wow even showed cb gbs. Where it all started for a lot of huge bands
saying it stands for “Country Blues,Grass Blues” and that’s it’s an Hells Angels hangout was the best part lol
You can always tell Crazy Legs windmill style
AMAAAAAAAAAZING!!! Love this so much!❤
this is awesome. slightly before my time although i did make it to danceteria shortly before it closed down.
I went to CBGB's from the UK when I was 19. It was like a religious pilgramage. None of the taxi drivers in New York knew what it was or the significance of it.
Isnt that the DJ[4:00] that Madonna slipped her demo to in '82 and got her big break into music?
Yeah, Madonna did do that, and first hit "Everybody" was born
95KIPPIE
His name is Mark Kamins. He produced her first track
What about Save The Robots club
Much Respect!!!
The male Londoner seems out of place as Rod Stewart. Damn, Rod Stewart? But, really, it's good to see people like them chillin' at places like The Roxy, I would never have known.
@Vassilika1
Klaus Nomi added to tags. ;-)
great, would be nice if you could ad Klaus Nomi in the tags... thx
this video reminds me about grand theft auto, especially the radio stations being played in the background.
This is sooo awesome
Looking at this reminds me of one fact as we gain so do we loose. These film seems highly antiquated for 1983/4 but at the same time those were some truly stylish years and the House music thing was really booming. Perhaps the only bad thing is that AIDS was just starting and stuff would surely dissolve in the years ahead.
My regret was I didn’t get the chance to attend Danceterria.
Mark Kamins! Wow. He made Madonna famous. He helped launch her career!
interesting question about "complete rhythm records", as this video pre-dates house music by a couple years. The original house records were totally just programmed drum and bass and they were HUGE
It's happening Underground...Now you have to Dig For those Treasures!
f%#k, New York is so dead now...
This is my new York! Lol
Mott st, use to get m80's there in the 90's
Where's Nelson Sullivan?
LOL - Yeah, that guy from the Peach boys looked overly healthy. Wonder why they didn't serve booze ;)
Is anyone still running this UA-cam channel?
Would've been better getting the local's perspectives.
Ain't nothing but a heartache.
16:44 Rock Steady b-boy king Crazy Legs, looking pretty much the same as he looks now days--b-boys age well!
I love those B boys!! As a 48 year old woman, I've always secretly wished that I could breakdance! I guarantee the only thing that would break would be me, so not gonna try, but keep it up b boys, you're the best!
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What track plays, when Peech Boys talks?
Did dude say CBGB's was a Hell's Angels hangout? Lol I used to go there sometimes back in the day and don't remember any biker gangs hanging out, I think he got some bad intelligence on that one.
they had a headquarters on 3rd st