Complaints Chinese Girls Have About Foreign Guys - Intermediate Chinese - Chinese Audio Podcast
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2024
- What are behaviors some foreigners display in China that Chinese girls really dislike? Eileen and Gwen look at this question!
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I feel like often times rather deviant behavior is passed off as "foreign culture" even though it wouldn't be acceptable in that persons home country.
Underrated comment.
And all the foreign guys in the comments saying "we're not all like that!"
Exactly!!
That first story pissed me off. That guy was just taking advantage of the situation, or clueless that he may be leading her on.
Which behaviour exactly would not be acceptable in that persons home country?
@@chrisschill9222 Talking about sex in front of colleagues is likely to get you a sexual harassment charge or at least hostile work environment in the US. Repeatedly pursuing a virgin for "no strings attached" sex would be scummy. So would directly asking a colleague if they masturbate.
It’s a different culture for sure, but I think the important lesson to takeaway (especially from the story about British guy) is that putting more effort into clear communication is needed, not the opposite. The girl found an immature guy, and then got horrible advice online. “Don’t ask” is not the norm in the west, in fact, there is no norm, it just depends on the maturity of the people. Not her fault. When you communicate your intentions from the start and talk openly as you go, that transcends most cultural boundaries, even in China.
I agree . I think the woman needs to ask the right questions to sift out what kind of stones are in a man's heart ; could be precious gems or plutonium .. Sometimes a man's mind might be corrupted by bad influences if so then she has to decide whether she can live with that or somehow help him to see what sort of person he really is . If the man is not “斯文” and does not show love in all things to her then she should hide herself from the danger and deceit . If the man has no intention of starting a fire for a purpose but just wants to burn wood then the woman should hide herself from the calamity and save both of themselves from the heart .
Yeah, her friends sounds terrible. I wonder how old these people are? I would never give this kind of advice to anyone.
Agreed. I think the only people in the wrong are the people discouraging communication. Outside of that I don't see any issue with either dating culture.
Agreed with Hocker. Open communication is the key to success in any relationship.
In many western countries there is the concept of having 'the talk' to define the relationship around the time the relationship becomes intimate, so I found that 'don't ask' comment very strange.
Here in the US, any male who made comments about "touching oneself" in a workplace setting or even with outside of work with co-workers could be charged with sexual harassment. HR would need to intervene and he would have to do harassment training to learn to respect women in the workplace. Even in casual situations, his comments could be deemed inappropriate and end up with a drink in his face. I think some Western guys in China are extra cavalier in their behavior because none of their family or regular friends are around so they can embarrass themselves all they want and most likely they'll eventually go back home so if you look like a creep to people, who cares, it won't matter.
@@RiDankulous and yet it still happen and a norm behavior in the US.
@@RiDankulous It is. You have to live exclusively online to pretend that people are that sterile at the workplace. It would be certainly inappropriate to treat sb without proper acquaintance, but once you know each other, people discuss all sorts of shit, serious or not. Grow the fuck up.
You are right, they are not western girls, so westerners dont care if creep is a western man. Another reason is many of the western men are actually managers, teachers and employers and the girls they abuse are workers, usually migrants. Their family is very far away, also many girls from previous generation dont have brothers to protect them. You will never see a western guy behave like that to an ethnic minority community, example in Yili and Kashi because they know that girls there have many brothers, who dont care about government policy to be nice to disrespectful foreigners and will beat up badly the western guys if they behave the same way as in big cities. Foreign guys know who to target
Good to know westerners don't care about "embarrassing" themselves aka sexually harassing women in China, but Chinese people probably care. Thanks for proving Westerners think it's okay to treat people of color terribly.
Dude...what is with all these crazy ideas people have? Unless you work in porn nobody is touching themselves at work. Saying that's the norm is absurd. To actually believe that shows you have to be just completely ignorant of reality and base your ideas of life off pornos.
I doubt anyone wants to be seen as a creep be it in China or America or wherever. Will people be more cavalier with places that are temporary... probably. I'd imagine it would be the same response for anyone visiting anywhere but I doubt the response would be to sexually harass someone and justify it on visiting or a nationality.
Awesome topics, intelligent girls with a great sense of humor speaking this beautiful language. Thanks a lot for the hard work of subtitling and translating everything.
I just want to let you know that these podcast/interview videos are having a significantly positive impact on my Chinese learning (and likely the learning of thousands of other people), so I'm really grateful that you are continuing to make them!
Regarding relationships, I think I'm conservative too, and I'm French. I think for most French people, you are officially in a relationship once you kiss, it means you're a couple. But even if we are in an exclusive relationship, we won't start thinking or talking about marriage before a while. Usually we are in a relationship for some time (months or years) before talking about living together, and then there are a few more years before considering marriage. Actually, when you start living together, it means you're testing your couple before getting to the next stage (marriage), so both people have the idea of spending their life together, but we might not tell it explicitly because we prefer to see if we can maintain our relationship while living together, before giving any hope of marriage to our partner. If things don't go well, we can still break up and not get married.
We usually do it this way, instead of getting married first and then realize we're not suited to live together and need to divorce.
To follow up on what you said and what's mentioned in the video, but also as a french canadian man. We test the relationship before proposing. But the girl could have asked if they were in a relationship. I don't see why her foreigners friend told her not to. Unless she wanted to get married after 5 dates.. But asking if you are a couple, there's nothing wrong with it if it's not obvious for you. Be open with your thought and don't be afraid. If the guy get upset about it he's probably not serious about you. Just like Chinese people we don't want to waste our time. Obviously for us dating will also ultimately end in marriage if both party are compatible. But only after living together, and experimenting life together, can we know if we are perfect for each other. We take getting married as a very serious part of our life. Marriage is the decision that we will pass the rest of our lives with you. No one want to get a divorce. Talking openly about sex is also a way for us to know about you're preference. Keep in mind that westerners and European have a pressure of being good in bed. So we are open about it, as we want to make sure you have a satisfieing experience. But also we are not as conservative and we would definitely not force ourselves to be with someone if we were not compatible on that aspect at all. About cleaning the house why would someone get upset if they have nothing to hide. That sound fishy! But obviously it's not her job to do so and they could have done it together. Now if she did rearrange the whole house without asking, like moving object and reorganizing. I would also get upset. For the food complaint that really depends on everyone. It also depend on how open you are to trying new things. But westerners really care about food appearance. I totally disagree with westerners being dirty. Personally I take a shower in the morning and before going to bed or right after sport. But let's say I train at 17pm and I take a shower after. I won't take another shower later on. Cleaning to much is bad for your skin. Those that only take one probably have lived by themselves for to long. It depend on your routine but don't put everyone in the same bag. Also instead of slippers I prefer to walk barefeet or with your sock's on. Those are my personal opinion.
Not really.
@@nagihangot6133 Which part ?
@@pascallaflamme3688 To be fair not everyone wants to get married. Many people don't think they need the government's approval for their relationship to be valid.
@N Y Just about relationships, we're not talking about social security or human rights here.
I really enjoyed this. Is it possible to do complaints that chinese men have of their foreign girlfriends. I am in that kind of relationship and it would be nice to hear how other chinese men feel about this topic
agree, I will be happy to take my part to contribute to video if she plans to make it. I'm in the similar relationship as well
Great idea! My husband is Chinese and I haven’t seen many channels talk about the husbands or boyfriends perspective. (Although I know a bit of my husbands from what he has told me)
Some people say that Chinese men may not be so attractive to foreign girls😅
Never met a white girl chinese guy couple
@@mariamara999 omg I did, and a lot.
When you started talking about food I felt like I’m on a wrong planet. Ppl are actually talking about how strange it is not to eat brains, intestines, limbs and bones 😂 fascinating!
It is pretty weird and not just for Chinese. I’m from Eastern Europe and my boyfriend is Chinese, we met in UK and we were always annoyed how we couldn’t find so many ingredients for our dishes which included YES, brains, intestines and other organs. Just felt like people in UK are wasting so many good animal parts and we lived in a small city so finding Slavic/Baltic or Asian shops where they would sell not just bacon and chicken wings was pretty hard.
@@crymeariver7945 it didn’t used to be that way in British cuisine. But over time, these things became less common.
@@happy_camper that’s really unfortunate in my opinion. What was It like before ?
@@crymeariver7945 I'm British too so I'll answer for you. Eating offal was quite common in the past and there are still a lot of traditional recipes. We've got haggis from Scotland which is made of the liver, heart, and lungs of a sheep. Blood pudding is made from pig's blood, it's still quite common with breakfast. I've seen quite a few of the older generation still eat ox tongue or pig tongue too. Brawn is a traditional dish made from pig or sheep head processed into a kind of meat jelly, it was popular in the Victorian time. There'salso crubeens from Ireland which is boiled pig's feet. Tripe (stomach lining of farm animals) was pretty popular until a few decades ago too. Steak and kidney pie is still widely eaten and sold too, but as for the rest they are a bit more uncommon but you can probably find them in butchers or special stores. This generation hasn't got a taste for these things anymore.
The showering in the morning thing is definitely true! I would feel kind of "stale" if I slept for a full 8 hours, jumped out of bed and then headed straight out of the door without washing. Although if I've done some kind of physically strenuous activity in the evening (going to the gym, cycling, being outside in hot humid weather, etc) then I will shower in the evening as well before bed, pretty much all the foreigners I know are the same. I don't know any foreigners that would hit the gym for a full 90 minutes and then just head straight to bed all sweaty and gross without showering.
as a chinese, i feel morning shower is ok, and i like it too. but there are people just can't understand it
I shower morning and night, especially in China. Getting into bed after a day of being in pollution is gross.
As a foreigner I find some Chinese things much closer to my style. I can only understand showering at night. I can't actually sleep easily without a shower.
As someone with super curly hair, i have to shower in the morning.. unless you want me looking like i just walked through a tornado in order to find my witch coven. I don't shower at night cause going to bed with wet hair is kind of annoying, although i will. if i feel gross. Curly hair should be air dried which takes hours, applying heat can cause damage.
@@kvcp didn’t know that, thanks for sharing!
You truly are a blessing, Eileen. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
我同意！
This cultivated uncertainty about the stages of "dating" is really more of an Anglo-Saxon thing than one with Westerners in general, let alone all foreigners. In France, for example, it's very straightforward: once a kiss has been exchanged, you're a couple and you get to do couple things like staying at each other's places, meeting each other's parents, etc. And unless stated otherwise you're expected to be exclusive. It may be over in a week (and for it to be over one of the parties has to say so explicitly), but for that duration of time you're in a full-fledged relationship.
I would say it is a scumbag thing... because yes, same here in Germany, usually a kiss seals the deal (though things are changing, so nowadays it often requires you to have to have a talk about it, lol, 'what are we?'). But of course there are some people who think they can just lie to others, claiming to have serious intentions, but once they got what they wanted they vanish... and that is easier to do if you are in a strange country, where no one even knows you and you don't ruin your reputation. I think this is really messed up.
So interesting! Could you please do a "Complaints Chinese Guys Have About Foreign Girls" video. This would be really great :D
Thank you eileen your still the best. I don't know how you can produce so many videos in such a short period of time. I would not have reached the same level of spoken chinese had you not been around with these great topics and contents. Keep up the good work
Spicy food is found across many cultures, but it is primarily based on climate. Before refrigeration, cultures in hot areas used spices to cover the rotting meat smell/taste and became more accustomed to spices. The more tolerant you become to spiciness, the more "bland" non-spicy food becomes to your palate.
People getting upset about someone liking or not liking a certain food is pretty ridiculous. The physical reality of whether a kind of food tastes good or bad to you isn't a moral failing or a virtue.
I'm not sure where this is coming from. Mostly it's just where these plants were indigenous that determined where they were most popular, with the exception of chili peppers, which were exported from the Americas to pretty much everywhere.
People have certainly come up with a lot of theories as to why such things became popular, from medicinal affects to preventing or slowing spoilage, but most still concede folks likely just enjoyed the taste.
As for covering the taste or smell of spoiled meat though, people actually had a much simpler solution to that: keeping live animals. Chicken, it turns out, does not spoil too quickly when the chicken is still alive.
The spices used to cover rotting taste is definitely a myth. Since spices were expensive it would have been the rich people using them, and rich people definitely didn’t eat rotten meat
@@comitatocentrale2022 In the past, everyone was eating rotten meat, both poor and rich, because in the past there were no refrigerators and the meat couldn't be contained for long. In fact, there are places in the world where people consider rotten meat as the tastiest (Iceland and some parts of Kazakhstan might be a good example). And yes, spices do cover the rotting smell.
In fact, in many countries, even in Europe, it is legal to add rotten meat into mincemeat, because most of the pathogens that could cause illness can be killed with high temperatures, and the foul smell can be masked with spices.
Please invite Gwen to come back for more topics! She's very entertaining.
On the not showering at night topic. I think this mainly comes from people who are used to living with air conditioning all the time. If your home, your car, and all the places you go to during the day are air conditioned, you don't end up getting sweaty and feeling gross by the evening. Obviously people who do manual labor or play sports during the day will probably shower after.
In China, I found that people were quite reluctant to turn on AC until it got very very hot.
So people who choose to not shower at night don’t mind the dirt/bacteria they picked up throughout the day despite not feeling sweaty?
@@karenavocado344 I think its pretty normal to not shower in the evening. Most people I know shower in the morning. If there is a special reason like sport or going on a date than you take an additional shower.
If you worry about bacteria that much good luck with showering every 5minutes. We are not made out of paper after all and carying too much will end in hurting your own immun system
@@karenavocado344 Unless you're showering in hand sanitizer I don't see how you're getting rid of all the bacteria. Bacteria is a normal part of life, trying to make your home or body 'bacteria free' will just result in a weakened immune system.
People should shover before going to bed .
You bringing all the accumulated nasty stuff to bed with you . Nasty .
No need to shower in the morning if you didn't do anything dirty in the bed lol
@@velkylev4217 People should shower when they like.
Sadly, the present-day Chinese women may have formed an opinion about the "Western culture", the culture of "dating" in particular, from experiences with smaller number of mostly American and British men who hardly qualify to present Western culture, or any culture whatsoever. The views on the woman-man relationship in most European societies are not significantly different than in China. So - scumbag is the right word; you have been mostly meeting and dealing with scumbags. Think of it - there are better ways to improve your spoken English.
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Shut up.
@@nagihangot6133 here little insecure troll, here's the attention you wanted. Happy? Now go be miserable and negative somewhere else
Their perception of the word "dating" is also very different to reality I find. They assume that in Western dating culture people will date multiple people at the same time to find "the one". From my own experiences and basically everyone I know this isn't the case. People will date one person for a while and if there isn't a feeling between them only then will they start dating someone else.
@@stijnhs People in the West will date multiple people sometimes and one person sometimes. I've dated people who have seen other people in-between dates and I've gone on dates with different people and repeated as well. I don't think there's any issue with dating multiple people, you're trying to find someone you're compatible with and will spend the rest of your life with. It's probably not gonna be the first person you go out on a date with.
Eileen you did such an amazing job you are the best....Usually studying Chinese is very tiring but your content is so refreshing and fun that it allows to practice and improve Mandarin without effort
I absolutely love Gwen's sense of humor!
Many (all?) of the men talked about in this video are not just foreigners but “ex-pats” I.e. people who are living in China for a relatively short period of time and plan to leave at some point. Because of this they aren’t very interested in marriage and don’t care who knows this.
As for showering in the morning, if you have a beard it is convenient to shave immediately after showering. A man looks unkempt if he only shaved the night before. This notion of accumulating bacteria working in an office sound germaphobic. Of course after exercise or if the day is hot, a shower in the evening is called for.
This is a fantastic video. Thank you. I am from Chicago and live in Taiwan. As for talking, yes, people, be direct. It saves time for your life. And, as for serious relationships, yes, you have to have a trial period to see if it is a good fit. This also saves you from wasting time in your life.
I still feel like it would be considered impolite to talk like that in front of women, or about private relationships.
Even in America right? Exactly. Those foreigners just have no manners whatsoever.
She met a bunch of rude foreigners and made a general judgement that she now thinks means “how foreign men are”
Yeah, who talks about the details of their sex life with an acquaintance from work, especially a man to a woman?
@@thebrokenmystic879 You're talking about her as if she lied and her experiences are not valid. Why don't you take a walk?
That's because your people are prideful and secretive. The rest of the world is mostly totally unlike you in this regard.
终于还有一个东北人！！！ 好开心。 虽然我不喜欢这种话题，但我还很喜欢东北话所以这个视频让我很满足了。
You both speak incredibly clear Mandarin. Which... makes it painfully obvious how much vocabulary I still need to learn. Sigh.
Love this video! Great synergy, and great for improving Mandarin listening and reading skills. Eileen, your interview skills improve with each video and you have the same infectious charisma you had 5 years ago, only more so. Gwen, you have a great sense of humor and add lots of value. Eileen and Gwen, you delivered a fun topic that made me want to see more videos with you two.
Once again a really helpful video! Your videos are the best!
Still, I'd like to add that there were shown extreme cases and the term "westerner" or "foreigner" is used in a really really broad sense. Some (or even most) of this behavior is unacceptable in my country for example, too.
Nevertheless, not mad at all, just wanted to point it out.
Thanks once again for helpful content!
Mandarin Corner is the best- This one is interesting. Two Chinese girls talking candidly about sex in front of tens of thousands of people while saying "Chinese girls don't feel comfortable talking about sex" at the same time they sound just like most people I've met regardless of country or origin. Maybe realize that you're specifically talking about men that have left there home country to go to China. They would be a very select group (adventurous to say the least). And even then it is an impossibility that they are all the same. I love these videos and I'm always proud to be a subscriber and to have donated more than once (this one is great- a provocative discussion that makes people talk). I would invite anyone who watches this video to do the same. Thumbs UP. 谢谢老师！
Great video with useful vocabulary, and your guest was very charismatic and charming! So sorry to see so many men in the comments completely miss the point and cry "racism", when it's clearlt stated these are personal experiences, and the complaints are quite grounded as well
Gwen is witty! Cultural differences make us better people in that we learn to tolerate others and love unconditionally
這個影片太好笑了，看妳們這麼自由自在地聊天鼓勵我繼續練習我的聽力。感謝你們做影片的勞動！
Come for the Chinese language, stay for the huge generalisations.
It's only a generalization because it's true. Not one of your fantasizing innuendos.
@@nagihangot6133 Ah, yes - ALL "Western" men are the same. Just like all Chinese people are guaranteed to break every contract they ever sign. Any other pearls of wisdom you'd like to share, cretin?
Yes. It is personal opinion. Let’s get over it and just focus on learning Chinese.
The way Chinese have true respect for their relationships is a large reason why western men like Chinese women so much . western woman do not hold the male/female relationship to the same standards ! i agree sex should be between two people who care for each other , not between complete strangers !
Loved and enjoyed watching this video so much!!!!! Thank you!
each and every video of yours has numerous and valuable leeson
thanks a lot for yours efforts
thank you for your works as always！
I feel that a lot of these bad behaviors by foreign (western) guys are due to the fact that they are living in a country that is not their own and therefore have a more laid-back attitude regarding relationships. I'm a westerner (from Portugal) and I indentify much more with what you described as the chinese understanding of relationships. I'm sure chinese girls would have a much different experience if they were dating foreign guys in the west rather than dating them in China. Great video, keep up the good work Eileen!
Hahaha Portuguese!!! So you're saying that "bad behavior" from Western guys are because they're living in countries not their own so it's okay and expected of them to sleep around, like what you would do, since you are one? Yet, you say you "identify more with the Chinese understanding of relationships". Pick one. A man does not change because of entering a new place, the way a snake sheds its skin every few weeks.
@@nagihangot6133 In essence, you just said western guys are not allowed to criticize other western guys.
我的女朋友（她是中国的，也来自黑龙江）也有这些两个抱怨：上床之前要洗澡，和要把内衣和外衣分开放在洗衣机里。关于第一个抱怨，我们西方人一般都觉得去上班或者出门跟朋友玩之前洗个澡比较重要，但是我们如果一天锻炼了或者因为其他原因出了一身汗也会睡觉之前洗个澡。反正，我觉得两个观点都有道理。
关于第二个抱怨，洗衣服的这个方面，我觉得不用管内衣和外衣放不放在一起，因为无论什么是不是衣服会洗得干净？外衣的脏不会印象内衣的干净！洗衣液体会保证这个结果。
Thank you so much. You don't know how much you're helping us
With my girlfriend I can’t talk about ghosts or anything scary after it’s dark because she’s afraid it is unlucky. She finally convinced me to always fry my underwear thoroughly in the sun. Because in America we just used drying machines. I wear slippers even when I didn’t before. Slippers keep your feet warm in the winter when the floor is cold. In America we just have carpets. I have body hair and I sweat easily in the humid weather. She doesn’t want me to touch her if I’m sweaty. I love her no matter whatever little disputes we have.
Eileen, 你的材料是youtube上最好的。我的中文水平已经还可以但是如果我是早一点找到你那就会很好。
不只是你的材料，你的性格也非常棒。很多老师喜欢展示自己的英文。中级和高级的材料也不多。谢谢 🇬🇧🇨🇳
嗨，你认识的汉字很多，但是看过你的这段文字后，我感觉您的汉语水平离“还可以”还有一定的距离。因为有些表达很生涩，中国人更倾向于会说资料，而不是材料。但是请继续加油！
BEST VIDEO SO FAR ! - good for learning but also SO FUNNY !!!
Great video! Both Eileen and Gwen are fantastic to listen to, very standard pronunciation and easy to understand
I am French and my boyfriend is Chinese. Since we've started dating and moved in together, I change my shoes to slippers when I come home and even keep them on when taking a shower. I've always taken my shower in the evening so this hasn't been an issue. I wash our underwear and outwear (without shoes omg) altogether but we need to soak the underwear in disinfectant afterwards. I also put my suitcase on the bed but avoid the wheels touching it (we get inside the bed to sleep after all). I've always thought I was a clean person but it was nothing compared to him. I've changed my habits because I think there are more important things to fight about instead of "should I wear slippers in the shower or not"
Growing up, i was taught to shower twice a day since we live in the tropics. When I went to China I found it very strange that during the summer when it's very hot that they shower only once a day.
Thanks for all the video uploads Eileen! God bless.
Great topic. I think the guys behaviour change with Chinese girls . It is possible that they feel more secure with them because chinese girls could be a little naive and they are curious about western cultures.
Interesting content. Some Chinese ladies observe Chinese dating conventions. There are also unspoken conventions where Chinese girls go for "lessons": English lessons, gym training, and swimming lessons as a front for sex sessions. The Chinese dating morality card has limits
Chinese people saying foreigners are dirty... So ironic. Most of the chinese people I know aren't really clean, they don't clean their home, they spit, and the way they eat is absolutely disgracious. I work in a chinese restaurant where half of my clients are Chinese, and even though I love them, I still apprehend cleaning their table after they leave. Most of the things you said are right, but that judgement about foreigners not being clean is just absolute nonsense.
I feel that all of these things western way is crazy… WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?!?! so weird and unclean
哈哈，很喜欢Eileen 的podcast。 这个话题聊得好有意思😂 确实，在国外和老外打交道各种担心，还是和中日韩的朋友交流舒服
It seems like a lot of men learning chinese to hook up with Chinese girls felt personally attacked by this video lol
I hate them, many of them come from countries that hate China, especially India and Muslim
@@manfunny917 No, most of them are Westerners.
Great content, Eileen, Thanks!
I still don't understand the throwing underwear and outside clothes in the washer at separate times.
Because after the wash is done they all get clean. Soap doesn't discriminate.
It might be about the fact, that Chinese washing machines usually use cold water, which in the end might not kill all the bacteria altogether. In this case, in my opinion it makes sense to divide these two kinds of clothing.
But also seemed like they didn't consider it when laughing about "foreigners" doing the opposite haha
Chineese washing machines operate with cold water so it does not kill germs, and I think a lot of Chinese cannot imagine we can use 60+degree celsius hot water, or even hotter to wash and also, to disinfect.
@@Bluegreen197 1. A lot of machines use warm-hot anymore at least in the apartments I've rented in major cities. 2. what does that have to do with not separating them.
@@snakers716 Then you've used more expensive and newer washing machines. Most people do use cold-water machines which means that bacteria won't be killed by the water temperature. However, detergent is super effective so it really shouldn't matter, but as you can see, that's just how people feel about it.
@@snakers716 Often we have to pay for our own hot water, so washing clothes in cold water is an economical decision, hence if only using cold water with soap it just seems “cleaner” to separate underwear and other clothing.
昨天 我第一次学中文。
这channel是很好! 我喜欢这channel。
This channel is pure gold omg ！
Sorry for my broken chinese 哈哈
Also i think the chinese dating culture is way better.
I enjoyed this one and the guest knows how to keep the conversation fun😅 没一只都没有不会百死 made me laugh so hard
我是法国人，这一集让我笑得很开心。再次感谢您度过了这个愉快的时刻😂😂
Aww, looks like an answer to my question from the comment section of your last video in connection with Chinese racism. Thanks!
Hahaha! Exactly!
They are actually some Chinese guys who are also like that. But for some reason, it causes more attention when the perpetrator is a foreigner, even worse if he is a black guy.
I think it is unfair to lump all foreign guys in the same category. You mentioned the Turkish guy who was dirty. Most American and European guys would also be repelled by his behavior. Standards of cleanliness vary between countries.
There's a saying in America, "It'll all come out in the wash." I think Westerners have such faith in the washing machine's ability to clean that we think it doesn't matter what goes in together, dirty: Everything will come out perfectly clean, anyway! :)
We separate based on the effect hot or cold water will have on the material of the cloth, itself, or on whether some clothing (colorful) will damage other clothing (whites).
It is important to note that casual dating (without assumed exclusivity [as boyfriend / girlfriend] and without the assumption that it will lead to marriage) is not something that all westerners would be comfortable with so please do not judge all western men based on this behaviour. IF you find yourself in a confusing relationship with a western man it is absolutely fine to ask can I call you my boyfriend? If he answers no we are just friends or FWB, you are fine to ask if he sees the relationship changing to boyfriend / girlfriend in the near future, if he says no and you want a serious relationship that will probably lead to marriage, end that relationship as he is just wasting your time.
I love this! Great video!!! It’s so interesting and funny! And I’m learning a lot!!!
Personally, I don't understand why so many Chinese girls long so much to date foreign guys. I have many female Chinese friends who ask me constantly if I know some handsome foreign guy to meet. They idea of foreigners (God knows why) is that all foreign men are rich, handsome and most importantly romantic! And I mean what is actually their expectation? Do they want to merry a foreigner? Or do they just want to try how it is dating foreigner? And about the personal hygiene. I really don't know anyone who don't take shower in the night after long day. But different cultures different habits. On the other hand, you Chinese guys are so crazy about being clean but don't mind throwing rubbish everywhere. Maybe not in the big cities, but smaller cities, towns and villages are different story. Even one of Eileen's videos was from her home village where she showed the ''mountain'' of rubbish thrown partly in the local stream...
Good channel, good informative videos. Thank you.
I feel like this is a stereotype and you can't really group every foreigner the same that's borderline racism. It's just saying all Asians are the same. However I do believe these stories are true, I feel like most expats, people who are working abroad or is still travelling won't really want serious relationships. It's a time of excitement and adventure, why would you want to commit to any serious relationships? And I feel like the two foreign friends who gave the advice not to ask directly about relationship status isn't a cultural thing, that's just bad advice. I am Chinese Australian and never had that issue before when I was dating. I actually tell the guy what I want even prior to meet up so we don't waste each other's time. Never had a problem with being direct, in fact most guys I met prefer that. We respect each other's time and want to find someone who are on the same page. It is sad how the Chinese girl ended up wasting her time with that scumbag, but I seriously think healthier relationships are base on directness and honesty. If anyone fears of losing someone for asking a question then it's not the right relationship, that is a clear signal that it isn't right. From observation, people who says "See how things goes" even after weeks of dating then it just means they are not that into you. (that's from both genders and from various diff background and cultures)
very fun and informative, thanks.
Thank you Eileen for everything. You are greatly helping me to learn Mandarin. Your video's are very nice. Really appreciate the hard work you put in your video's.
Dating culture was the same in the west as in china until the sixties and seventies when feminism took over. That made women want to be more like men.
I know the topic is foreign men, but in the west, it's not only the men who have that mindset, most of the women, do as the men do.
It's also generational. Traditionally sex was off-limits until marriage and most Boomers grew up like that. And "Westerners" who have spiritual values such as Christian or Buddhist are very conservative about sex.
Eileen, thanks for this video.
Those European men just wanna have fun with their short time living in China, like it's a new taste and a great experience, and what I known Europeans really love discovering and experiencing for sure. But we can choose who we gonna dated 'cause there always are good and bad pp all around the world 🌎
Yeah, some men talk about women like dishes they wanna try. Hope these sexpats get a proper kick in the butt, lol
I agree with David, this analysis is too general and different foreign cultures have different etiquette for dating and relationships. There is also the consideration of religion and an individual's value system that could contradict their own general cultural norms. I never agreed with the promiscuous attitude of many Brits, even though I am a Briton. I am a Christian and many Christians have the same attitude towards sexual relations - best within a formal marriage (opposite sex).
That driver and old driver comes from that old song right? The one with the driver picking up dancers
Great video, Eileen, as usual!
Lets be honest if you meet a guy who still "'dates" after 30 years old, he is not looking for a wife but someone to fill his (greedy-sexual) needs.
If you fall for a guy like that you're as immature as he is. Everything happens for a reason, learn from it.
Communication is the key no matter the culture. There is no need to start a sexual intercourse to read through someone, i think that's the first mistake people often do is following lust instead of their brain, that's why they end up disappointed because their projections were not real. Stop wishing someone to be the person you wish them to be.
Thank you so much!!! Your content is really interesting and useful.
真的喜欢这个视频，谢谢你， 你们两个很好笑的 ☀️☀️☀️
I just wanna add that the culture of 'western' dating is pretty similar to what we have in Singapore. Singapore is a melting pot of eastern and western culture. And the younger generation now treats dating as just hanging out with the person to judge and feel the compatibility. So I suppose even in an Asian country like Singapore, you can also experience the western style of dating. Just to share.
Just to add on, we also throw the inner wear and other cloth into the washing machine. Haha.
Plus wearing a sports jacket with nothing on underneath was already considered a bit rude, even in 1980s Miami.
To me it doesn't matter where the woman comes from. Sex should not happen before marriage but especially before she understands the intention of the man. I am a traditional American and I believe in todays world the dating society is all backwards. The one thing that I like about asian culture is for the most part they have a fundamental truth about family. My country use to be that way. Now the younger women stopped being ladies and men stopped being gentlemen. Not all though.
It's a valuable in understanding Chinese life.
such an enjoyable episode this one.
Shower at night? That’s crazy! Hahaha….it is just a custom or habit or there is a practical reason. In America, many people do their hair before work and that involves washing it and drying it and then styling it. Most Asians have straight hair which is lower maintenance. I have curly hair. My hair will look crazy when I go to work if I don’t wash it and brush it in the morning. Also, it’s nice to go to work feeling clean and fresh. Clean body clean clothes and good hair.
Eileen! Awesome job again!
Gwen's English, Omg, it was so freaking cute!
showering at night makes a lot of sense, I might do it from now on 🙂
A lot of the characteristics mentioned in this video apply only to western European/North American males, and even then, a lot of western guys still prefer to date the traditional way. Many of these statements are based on stereotypes.
If you travel to Latin America, which is more socially conservative than the 'West', many couples date with the intention of getting married one day. I am half Latino and have been dating a Chinese woman for five years. We match because our values and expectations are similar to one another. I wish Chinese people would not put all foreigners in a single description, because we are so different - but then again, other countries do the same to Chinese and Asian people in general.
Amusingly interesting, I'm Australian even I didnt realise that other Westerners weren't showering at night - its a crazy person that is on the go all day then doesnt shower at night.
谢谢你的视频。发音很清楚。我经常把你的视频推荐给我的学生。😊👍
Great, another one so soon.
Very enjoyable interview with Gwen! Her inquisitive nature exploring topics that make some people blush was fun and refreshing. I had to laugh several times at things in the video because they seemed so true. My wife is an excellent cook but I think she was a little surprised that some dinner guests wouldn't even try her delicious chicken feet or shrimp with the shells on. The same thing with fish. People here in the U.S. are not used to anything but fish filets with no bones. From her perspective this makes no sense since the tastiest meat is next to the bones. Also I was surprised at some of the comments for this video saying that it was racist, I guess because they didn't like being judged as being questionable characters for wanting to "score" on a first date or at least early on in a relationship.
It is borderline racist, if I was a white dude that made a video about Asian girls (just group all Asians as the same race) then continue to say how money driven and controlling Asian women can be, do you think that's a good look? Scumbags exists in all races by the way and sadly expats or people who are travelling and still experiencing the world would not want to settle. (majority) It's the environment not necessarily a cultural thing... I am Chinese Australian, when I was dating I had no trouble with directness and being upfront when I was on date or before a date.
The reason people complain is because the word foreigner here means whole world except for China.
That's kind of ridiculous
You just can't put everyone into one basket
My biggest question is how do you eat a bone? Maybe Eileen can make a video of it.
这个频道提高我的听力能力，学习中文我们还学海无涯。
How do you clean your rags if you don't throw them in the washing machine?
wow！
Very cool interview!
Hello, I'm from Argentina, I learn a lot with your videos, and I have a question: can we use the word Piāo liàng, to say, "It's a beautiful day"?
no，we would like to say: Jin tian tian Qi hen hao, rather than Jin tian tian Qi he piao liang
@@ansonahn9828 Also it's piao4
I think foreign women talk about sex too openly. Most dudes tend to keep it fairly discreet.
我是外国人，来自东南亚的。在热带国家我们习惯一天洗两次澡。我来中国五年了，还是一天洗两次澡，冬天也是。我在南方，但冬天有时候也会零度。
I see a lot of people disagreeing in the comments but the truth is this is very common in the west. People have sex on the first date and there is no guarantee that it will lead to anything. Actually it's a bit refreshing to hear this perspective from a Chinese woman. Like they genuinely expect something more serious to develop after sex.
Work is bad, Feeling Not showered at Work is Bad = Double bad.