Interesting.. I'm lucky enough to have a new 50# Cheyenne.... beautiful bow, there's a bit of noise from string but not much and it has no hand shock.. I've tied on nocking points..not brass ones.also have a super Kodiak,no hand shock,and a 40# super grizzly which had a little bit of hand shock till I put some leather between the string and limbs.. so this was great to listen to.
@@CampfireKodiak well that's like choosing between my children. They're all beautiful,and when I'm with any one that seems like a favourite.The super Kodiak is excellent, accurate,fast smooth draw.If l could only have one bow that might be my choice????? Also with narrower limbs they will be less likely to twist. I want to get a 55# bow next.. maybe an ausable long bow? If I see a super Kodiak for sale though........ regards.
Thanks for posting this helped me decide on a new bow . I swung by bear archery in Gainesville today and ironically bought the same bow hope I like as much as you did.
I am sure you would like it, if you got the bow, I reviewed it will already be setup with correct nock height and brace height. Did you get the quiver with it...Let me know how you like it? Thanks
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 I did get the quiver with it the guy working there said it was the same one you reviewed after I mentioned seeing your video about it
Very Impressive bow and your complete run down from start to finish on your videos is awesome! Really looking forward to your upcoming video on the 1974 Bear Grizzly you put together and see how it's shooting. Thanks for all you do.
Some of that hand shock and string/limb noise can be fixed with a higher brace height, I know you like them lower but I find a lot of Bears perform better at 8-even 8 3/8 on some
I have always wanted the Cheyenne, I think it’s a very nice looking bow and I will have it in my collection some day thanks for the review Todd. Take care my friend God Bless.
@@UncleDanBand64 That will be fantastic I’ve been waiting on those videos for sometime now!! It is definitely cheaper to shoot arrows then lead the price is just gotten too expensive unless you are Hickok 45 in the sponsors send you free ammo lol.. I am glad to hear it truly looking forward to it see you soon brother take care and God bless.
Just for clarity and I could be wrong but I was under the impression that when they say 1/8th above center for split finger, that it's for nocking above the nock point, not below it.
I use a bow a 54 inch bow. The Bow is from OEELINE Ariowbow the one piece 54 inch bow at 45 pounds I draw to 35 pounds due to my 24 inch draw, that is like a Bear Grizzly/more Super Grizzly but scaled down. The Chinese company OEELINE Airobow does not really have model names (except the Black Hunter models) but the bow but they do have models by one piece or single recurve then go by height as they have a right hand only 58 inch model that is nearly a Bear Grizzly and a takedown recurve that is either 58 or 60 inches. To make bow a little quieter I used the side triangles I had for 2 piece side rest set I bought but only used the lower part and used them on the limbs where the string first makes contact with the bow to make it a bit quieter as the loud part was the string hitting the limb again during the shot. I have not tested with a chronograph, but I would bet that bow I have would if drawn to 28--29 inches gets the same numbers as you do since I got a better string for the bow, a full Fast flight in Flemish Twist. The Bow I have would basically be a faster flight Bear Super Grizzly if the rule is true that limbs are faster if you go shorter and keep the same design.
Can you describe the grip profile? I shoot a 2018 Bear TD with a fairly thin/narrow grip (compared to most of the other Bears I've shot). I really prefer a thinner profile and am interested how this compares.
He really squeezed that nock on there. That's cut strings . If you must use brass please use caution. Now days I tie on all my nocks,2 per bow. Also you can then make adjustments till your tuned and ready to go then you give it a dab of glue. Love the bow though
Hey Todd ,Casey tenbarge from bear archery told me they don't sell blemished bows, I told him about this Cheyenne you tested and sent it back to bear . You also told a gentleman to contact Jarred at bear bow and ask him about the Cheyenne bow. The gentleman did and purchased the bow. So what's up???
Great review. How do you think the Cheyenne would handle a 30.5" draw? . Im between this and the Kodiak hunter, but I find that bears tend to stack pretty bad for me.
Another great review thanks Tod.. it would seem the super grizzly is the better shooter? Also tod I have a 3 month old super grizzly and it has alot of white crazing showing through the black glass on both limbs from the fading down to the center of the limbs. The crazing goes across the limbs and down them it's the 4th bear bow to do this in 2 years do i have anything to worry about?
No that seems to happen to a few Bear bows. I have shot many bows and tested many Bear Bows with the same grazing and they perform perfectly. As long as there are no splits or splinters the bow should be fine.
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 thanks for the quick response there's no splinting or anything like that and it has a smooth finish. Thanks again mate.👍
Hello there kind sir, I absolutely love ur videos and trust your opinion over any other in this world when it comes to traditional bows and how they shoot etc. Can u please show me how to get ahold of that link for the factory second bear Cheyenne? Pretty please? I would like one in 50# if possible but no less than 45# if I have any day at all. I really appreciate ur help and all of the great reviews u have made showing me just which now I would like to own. Thank buddy and if there is ever anything that I can do in return, do t hesitate to ask. Take care and god bless.
Give my buddy Jared a call at the Bear Archery factory pro shop in Gainesville Florida tell him Todd sent you and he will take good care of you thanks for wstching
So I’m looking to get into traditional but wanna buy a one piece wood bow. I like this bear in this review but wanna start with a budget option. Is there a one piece you’d recommend that’s on a more budget friendly level? I plan on stepping up once I get form and arm built up on lower poundage bow.
Starting this week, Jared McCoy no longer works in the Bear Pro Shop. There are some new guys, answering the same phone numbers and email. Seem like very decent fellows.
i have a simple question u probably would know. i have a 50 # 59 kodiak.. what spine arrow should i use ? i use 11/32 wood arrows. also use a 135 zwickey 4 blade eskimo. also i use a 50 # 64 inch take down bear. what would be the correct spine arrow for this? ty richard
I guess it is better than trashing the bows that Bear makes that do not make the quality control cut. Bear Archery has always had this factory second program just a lot of people do not know about it.
I use 9.3 g per inch Easton arrows at 31 inches,feathered,400 spine.seems to be right.Heavy enough to give the bow something to push against,and still fast.pleasure to use. 100 g point.regards..
This fastest I've seen 45lbs class. There some 60 lbs bow shooting 36ftlbs. This 15 lbs lighter. Look up ebc bows on youtube. Local guy building hand made bows. But Cheyenne bow looks like the one to buy for KE.
Yes give my buddy Jared a call his number is (352) 376-2411 he runs the Fread Bear Factory Pro Shop in Gainesville Florida I am sure he has what you want tell him I sent you and Thanks for Watching!!!
There was an older model then the one made in late 2000's that was called the Chyane from the Michigan shop, but the bow was more a standard recurve bow ends like a Bear Grizzly with a nearly the same shaped riser section. The modern Chyane is a nearly super recurve but not quite a super recurve bow that would be faster then a Bow of similar size that is a more standard recurve. The old Chyane came from a static tip model in the 1950's that the name got resurrected in the late 1960's or early 1970's as a higher end recurve that could only take a Dynaflight D-77 at most when that came out a few years later, due to the tip ends how the limbs are not as big as they need to be for Dynaflight D-97/Fast Flight. I do think that smaller then 55--54 inches and the recurve bows tend to wiggle around more then what people want, sure there can be smaller flat bows/shortbows in this size that if the limbs are made only a little wider then what they should be as if scaling down a longbow in either the flat limb or English/Welsh style would work fine. Maybe if you have a Static tip design like a Mongolian/Asian Russia bow, Chinese, or a Middle eastern bow or even an older modern design you can get smaller.
@@caseysmith544 Casey Thanks for the correction, I went back to all my Bear Research and I could not find the model you speak of in the Bear catalogs from the 60's and 70's. My research shows The first time I see Cheyenne listed in the Bear Catalog was 2003 nothing in 2004 and 2005 then it shows up again in 2006. Please send me all the info you may have on this bow so I can update my literature on this bow. Thanks
@@caseysmith544 Great comment. I have a Super Magnum. It is very stable but, not blistering fast because of the giant brace height. I have a Tiny Turkish bow that is only 33" strung. It is 50 at 26" and will really sling an arrow but, it is very unstable. I hunted with it last fall and filled my tags with it. I think I will shoot something a little longer this season. Maybe 44 or 46😂
@@UncleDanBand64 Yep My bow is a tick unstable compared to an actual Bear Super Grizzly but not by much mainly due to the smaller handle as it is nearly an identical scale down of the Bear Super Grizzly, the sad part is the slightly lower brace height did not help with my draw. I am looking at the Youth Model and Youth Longbow from the GREAT PLAINS TRADITIONAL BOW COMPANY now out of Kansas since the new owners took over in 2010's. I am thinking the longbow as the handle grip on the Youth Model Recurve looks off. If not, I might just get a 50 or 55 pound version of the bow I currently have to pull 40--45 pounds. I am Still thinking this over.
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 I have a feeling the bow I am thinking of is what became the Bear Chyane and is not called that explicitly but sellers on E-bay might call it original name "Chyane" as it is nearly the same bow.
Interesting.. I'm lucky enough to have a new 50# Cheyenne.... beautiful bow, there's a bit of noise from string but not much and it has no hand shock.. I've tied on nocking points..not brass ones.also have a super Kodiak,no hand shock,and a 40# super grizzly which had a little bit of hand shock till I put some leather between the string and limbs.. so this was great to listen to.
Which of these bows is your favorite?
@@CampfireKodiak well that's like choosing between my children. They're all beautiful,and when I'm with any one that seems like a favourite.The super Kodiak is excellent, accurate,fast smooth draw.If l could only have one bow that might be my choice????? Also with narrower limbs they will be less likely to twist. I want to get a 55# bow next.. maybe an ausable long bow? If I see a super Kodiak for sale though........ regards.
Very impressive, thanks for your review. My next Bear I think👍😁
Thanks for posting this helped me decide on a new bow . I swung by bear archery in Gainesville today and ironically bought the same bow hope I like as much as you did.
I am sure you would like it, if you got the bow, I reviewed it will already be setup with correct nock height and brace height. Did you get the quiver with it...Let me know how you like it?
Thanks
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 I did get the quiver with it the guy working there said it was the same one you reviewed after I mentioned seeing your video about it
@@North_Florida_Knappingbut I would try the brace height closer to the 8" mark. That's what I've got mine at now.
Very Impressive bow and your complete run down from start to finish on your videos is awesome! Really looking forward to your upcoming video on the 1974 Bear Grizzly you put together and see how it's shooting. Thanks for all you do.
Think I have new Bear Bow on my shopping list, thanks for the review.
Some of that hand shock and string/limb noise can be fixed with a higher brace height, I know you like them lower but I find a lot of Bears perform better at 8-even 8 3/8 on some
Thanks I will try that
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 no problem
Bear recommend 7 to 8 inches brace height for the Cheyenne...mine seems happy 😁 around 7.5 mark. Bare bow,tied on nocking point s.
Had one of the first Cheyenne recurves @45# in 2010
Gave it away. I have regretted it. I will have to get another.
I have always wanted the Cheyenne, I think it’s a very nice looking bow and I will have it in my collection some day thanks for the review Todd. Take care my friend God Bless.
Hey Sig...it is me Uncle Dan. Changed my channel name....Thinking of doing some archery vids.
@@UncleDanBand64 That will be fantastic I’ve been waiting on those videos for sometime now!! It is definitely cheaper to shoot arrows then lead the price is just gotten too expensive unless you are Hickok 45 in the sponsors send you free ammo lol.. I am glad to hear it truly looking forward to it see you soon brother take care and God bless.
@@sigmanarchery54 thanks buddy
I really enjoyed your bow review.
I've been shooting a 45 lb bear grizzly, actually 43 listed under the shelf peice, I'd like to move to a 50 lb. I may try a new model
Make sure you can shoot your 45# to its full potential first.
Just for clarity and I could be wrong but I was under the impression that when they say 1/8th above center for split finger, that it's for nocking above the nock point, not below it.
Yes that is correct
Love my Cheyenne!
I use a bow a 54 inch bow. The Bow is from OEELINE Ariowbow the one piece 54 inch bow at 45 pounds I draw to 35 pounds due to my 24 inch draw, that is like a Bear Grizzly/more Super Grizzly but scaled down. The Chinese company OEELINE Airobow does not really have model names (except the Black Hunter models) but the bow but they do have models by one piece or single recurve then go by height as they have a right hand only 58 inch model that is nearly a Bear Grizzly and a takedown recurve that is either 58 or 60 inches. To make bow a little quieter I used the side triangles I had for 2 piece side rest set I bought but only used the lower part and used them on the limbs where the string first makes contact with the bow to make it a bit quieter as the loud part was the string hitting the limb again during the shot.
I have not tested with a chronograph, but I would bet that bow I have would if drawn to 28--29 inches gets the same numbers as you do since I got a better string for the bow, a full Fast flight in Flemish Twist. The Bow I have would basically be a faster flight Bear Super Grizzly if the rule is true that limbs are faster if you go shorter and keep the same design.
Can you describe the grip profile? I shoot a 2018 Bear TD with a fairly thin/narrow grip (compared to most of the other Bears I've shot). I really prefer a thinner profile and am interested how this compares.
Sweet bow!
Why would you not have a 10 grains per Arrow ready when that's what bear recommended from recurves Lefty New Jersey
Have 2 Bear Cheyanne RMEF bows. One 50# one 55#. Good shooting bows IMO.
How are you getting 55# Cheyenne’s? They only sell them at 50#
The 50# is the highest draw weight the Cheyenne comes in.
@@gfreeman9843 I know that, but several of these videos and ads for used ones says 55#~60#
He really squeezed that nock on there. That's cut strings . If you must use brass please use caution. Now days I tie on all my nocks,2 per bow. Also you can then make adjustments till your tuned and ready to go then you give it a dab of glue. Love the bow though
Hey Todd ,Casey tenbarge from bear archery told me they don't sell blemished bows, I told him about this Cheyenne you tested and sent it back to bear . You also told a gentleman to contact Jarred at bear bow and ask him about the Cheyenne bow. The gentleman did and purchased the bow. So what's up???
Stuck on cheyenne or super grizzly for woods/ tree stand
Great review. How do you think the Cheyenne would handle a 30.5" draw? . Im between this and the Kodiak hunter, but I find that bears tend to stack pretty bad for me.
Try a super Kodiak 60" a.m.o.
Do you have any tips for shooting with glasses on ? I recently had to start wearing glass and I'm seeing my frame instead of the target.
Another great review thanks Tod.. it would seem the super grizzly is the better shooter? Also tod I have a 3 month old super grizzly and it has alot of white crazing showing through the black glass on both limbs from the fading down to the center of the limbs. The crazing goes across the limbs and down them it's the 4th bear bow to do this in 2 years do i have anything to worry about?
No that seems to happen to a few Bear bows. I have shot many bows and tested many Bear Bows with the same grazing and they perform perfectly. As long as there are no splits or splinters the bow should be fine.
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 thanks for the quick response there's no splinting or anything like that and it has a smooth finish. Thanks again mate.👍
Hello there kind sir, I absolutely love ur videos and trust your opinion over any other in this world when it comes to traditional bows and how they shoot etc. Can u please show me how to get ahold of that link for the factory second bear Cheyenne? Pretty please? I would like one in 50# if possible but no less than 45# if I have any day at all. I really appreciate ur help and all of the great reviews u have made showing me just which now I would like to own. Thank buddy and if there is ever anything that I can do in return, do t hesitate to ask. Take care and god bless.
Give my buddy Jared a call at the Bear Archery factory pro shop in Gainesville Florida tell him Todd sent you and he will take good care of you thanks for wstching
So I’m looking to get into traditional but wanna buy a one piece wood bow. I like this bear in this review but wanna start with a budget option. Is there a one piece you’d recommend that’s on a more budget friendly level? I plan on stepping up once I get form and arm built up on lower poundage bow.
Go with the Black Hunter Recurve about $100 on amazon I have several reviews on my channel about the Black Hunter that is the one I would recommend.
I noticed you bought those carbon arrows with bamboo look. How are you liking nose I bought two dozen but I haven't built them yet
Thanks for the link!
Starting this week, Jared McCoy no longer works in the Bear Pro Shop. There are some new guys, answering the same phone numbers and email. Seem like very decent fellows.
i have a simple question u probably would know. i have a 50 # 59 kodiak.. what spine arrow should i use ? i use 11/32 wood arrows. also use a 135 zwickey 4 blade eskimo.
also i use a 50 # 64 inch take down bear. what would be the correct spine arrow for this? ty richard
hello
this bow is beautiful a___a"""
Hi there todd ur the best! Can u please send me the link for buying factory second Cheyenne bow like urs? I am very interested
Please give my buddy Jared a call at the Bear Archery Pro Shop tell him I sent you and he will hook you up.
Jared 352 376-2411
Thanks for watching
Do you need a 7 inch brace height you’ll get more speed
depends on the bow some of my bows have an 6 inch brace height. Brace height is more for tune and quietness than speed
Why doges he sell it at such a good price?
Keep up your great content :)
I guess it is better than trashing the bows that Bear makes that do not make the quality control cut. Bear Archery has always had this factory second program just a lot of people do not know about it.
Does he have any web shop? I can’t find any.
What arrow/spine/length and weight are you shooting out of this thing?
I use 9.3 g per inch Easton arrows at 31 inches,feathered,400 spine.seems to be right.Heavy enough to give the bow something to push against,and still fast.pleasure to use. 100 g point.regards..
Arrow length 31 inches draw length about 28
This fastest I've seen 45lbs class. There some 60 lbs bow shooting 36ftlbs. This 15 lbs lighter. Look up ebc bows on youtube. Local guy building hand made bows. But Cheyenne bow looks like the one to buy for KE.
Very nice ✌
You got a factory second bear bow on one of your videos. Is there a place you can buy factory seconds bear archery traditional bows.
Yes give my buddy Jared a call his number is (352) 376-2411 he runs the Fread Bear Factory Pro Shop in Gainesville Florida I am sure he has what you want tell him I sent you and Thanks for Watching!!!
I can’t find a number for factory pro shop .any one have a clue?
Yes here is the Number ask for Jared 352 376-2411. I have also updated the video subscription with the phone number.
What year is your Cheyenne?
The one I have is a 2022 Bear Factory Second
I think the 55" Cheyenne is a great trade off between short and long recurves. I think it has been out longer than that though Tex....just sayin'
There was an older model then the one made in late 2000's that was called the Chyane from the Michigan shop, but the bow was more a standard recurve bow ends like a Bear Grizzly with a nearly the same shaped riser section. The modern Chyane is a nearly super recurve but not quite a super recurve bow that would be faster then a Bow of similar size that is a more standard recurve. The old Chyane came from a static tip model in the 1950's that the name got resurrected in the late 1960's or early 1970's as a higher end recurve that could only take a Dynaflight D-77 at most when that came out a few years later, due to the tip ends how the limbs are not as big as they need to be for Dynaflight D-97/Fast Flight.
I do think that smaller then 55--54 inches and the recurve bows tend to wiggle around more then what people want, sure there can be smaller flat bows/shortbows in this size that if the limbs are made only a little wider then what they should be as if scaling down a longbow in either the flat limb or English/Welsh style would work fine. Maybe if you have a Static tip design like a Mongolian/Asian Russia bow, Chinese, or a Middle eastern bow or even an older modern design you can get smaller.
@@caseysmith544 Casey Thanks for the correction, I went back to all my Bear Research and I could not find the model you speak of in the Bear catalogs from the 60's and 70's. My research shows The first time I see Cheyenne listed in the Bear Catalog was 2003 nothing in 2004 and 2005 then it shows up again in 2006. Please send me all the info you may have on this bow so I can update my literature on this bow.
Thanks
@@caseysmith544 Great comment. I have a Super Magnum. It is very stable but, not blistering fast because of the giant brace height. I have a Tiny Turkish bow that is only 33" strung. It is 50 at 26" and will really sling an arrow but, it is very unstable. I hunted with it last fall and filled my tags with it. I think I will shoot something a little longer this season. Maybe 44 or 46😂
@@UncleDanBand64 Yep My bow is a tick unstable compared to an actual Bear Super Grizzly but not by much mainly due to the smaller handle as it is nearly an identical scale down of the Bear Super Grizzly, the sad part is the slightly lower brace height did not help with my draw. I am looking at the Youth Model and Youth Longbow from the GREAT PLAINS TRADITIONAL BOW COMPANY now out of Kansas since the new owners took over in 2010's. I am thinking the longbow as the handle grip on the Youth Model Recurve looks off. If not, I might just get a 50 or 55 pound version of the bow I currently have to pull 40--45 pounds. I am Still thinking this over.
@@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 I have a feeling the bow I am thinking of is what became the Bear Chyane and is not called that explicitly but sellers on E-bay might call it original name "Chyane" as it is nearly the same bow.
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Your brace height is too low.