Crowdfunding - Patreon VS Ko-Fi Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024

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  • @SabrinaKaufmann
    @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +12

    *Here's my own Ko-Fi page if you want to see what it can look like.* Note that it's the free version, and I haven't activated commissions 😉
    In case you'd like to tip because you like this channel, I'd gladly accept your coffee ♥
    ko-fi.com/sabrinakaufmann

  • @jasonleetaiwan
    @jasonleetaiwan Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video. I just started my Buy Me A Cup of Coffee and got a few donations for my channel on Taiwan. Look forward to seeing more of your content.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  Рік тому +1

      That's great you got started and already have a few patrons! Hope you'll get many more and be able to develop your channel 🥰

    • @jasonleetaiwan
      @jasonleetaiwan Рік тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann Another video suggested that I remind my viewers that I have a Buy Me a Cup of Coffee account at the end of each video. After the first couple of days, I didn't get any more donations, so maybe putting in the reminder in each video will work. Any other advice on getting more consistent donations?

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  Рік тому

      @@jasonleetaiwan Yes, reminding people that they can tip definitely helps raise awareness, because you often have people who either didn't get it, are new, or need some time to decide to donate. For consistent donations, it depends on your business model and what you can do: do you have an option to offer private or early content on your page? Would you like to offer specific gifts, or rather just get donations without offering anything?
      If it's more related to rewards to attract people, I'd suggest you this video that offers specific ideas:
      ua-cam.com/video/3rUAbIor7Fs/v-deo.html
      Otherwise, you might find the one or other interesting video about marketing your art in this playlist, depending on what you'd like to do:
      ua-cam.com/play/PL7ny-K9kG24hdLDaGKCekmcY4XAm41dU7.html
      Hope it helps and you'll find something useful to get more people on board 😊

    • @jasonleetaiwan
      @jasonleetaiwan Рік тому

      @Sabrina Kaufmann - From Art to Business My content is mostly about elections and politics, so they are like public service announcements and not suitable to be monetized like a business.
      Having said that, it still takes up a lot of time and money, so I need to get some consistent income in. I don't want to offer any exclusive videos or gifts because everything I research should be free to access. I am not even comfortable with monthly membership because I am not guaranteed to always put out content on a consistent basis.
      I guess I will just put the reminder at the end of each video from now on and hope that works. I promoted the coffee link on my community page for YT, but that was only seen for a couple of days.
      Thanks for your reply and your tutorial videos.

  • @VanApian
    @VanApian 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for the great video. I've got Patreon for a few years now, but yeah, some of my viewers doesn't liked the idea of the monthly payment. So I searched for an alternative. And I think that Ko-Fi is the right choice after you explained everything so well. Greetings from Germany.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      Oh thanks so much for your kind feedback! Yeah especially if your viewers already expressed that they didn't like the idea of monthly payments, it's a good choice to go with another alternative. For your info, it's not mentioned in the video as Ko-Fi just enabled this one or two months ago: monthly subscription tiers are now available, too. You can keep the classical one-time donations, and also add an option for monthly subscribers just the way Patreon works. Just saying, in case some of your followers do want to support you monthly, and you prefer to centralize everything in the same platform instead of having one Patreon + one Ko-Fi 😊

    • @VanApian
      @VanApian 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann you are welcome. And thanks for the additional information :)

  • @morjay8243
    @morjay8243 3 роки тому +16

    I was thinking about creating a Patreon acc but after watching this vid, I think it's better for me to create ko-fi instead. Thank you so much for your guidance!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +5

      You're very welcome! Feel free to drop your link so that it may inspire other people once you've setup your account 😊

  • @omnibussy
    @omnibussy 3 роки тому +7

    this was extremely helpful! there's articles all over the internet, but it can be hard to gauge how genuine those reviews are. i write interactive fiction and i think i'll start with ko-fi until i can get an idea of how consistent i can be with rewards. thanks for this review and comparison!
    plus your look is adorable and your art is amazing!! i'm subscribed

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +2

      Starting with Ko-Fi seems to be a great idea, indeed being consistent with rewards is something you'll see in the long term. Sometimes you may think it's kinda easy, but when you get caught up in it and also have other things to do... well, you might need to adjust sometimes 😊 But you'll definitely manage, and wishing you all the best in your work ♥
      And thanks so much for your kind comment, so happy to have you on board! ♥ If you ever have some topics you'd have questions on, feel free to suggest them, if I can help I'll gladly do a video about it 😊

  • @jimmanuelco
    @jimmanuelco 3 роки тому +4

    This is such a great and balanced comparison of Patreon and Ko-Fi. I appreciate you sharing this and I am definitely planning on signing up for Ko-Fi soon. Thank you Sabrina!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      So happy you like it, wishing you good luck with your upcoming Ko-Fi account! And thank you so much for taking the time to comment once again! I still don't know why some comments disappear, it's so annoying because I don't want anyone to think I'm ignoring them 😔

    • @jimmanuelco
      @jimmanuelco 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann No problemo and thank you so much Sabrina!

  • @tapocketa
    @tapocketa 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Sabrina. We were going around in circles wondering which to pick but your video has stopped us spinning around. Ko-Fi it is! 🙂

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  2 роки тому

      You're very welcome! Good luck on your Ko-Fi adventure 😁

  • @FlamingArrow
    @FlamingArrow 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for your honesty!
    Kofi needs more attentions for small time artists

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      You're very welcome, thank YOU for taking the time to watch and leave a comment 😊 Definitely, Ko-Fi is amazing for small artists to start out (and even beyond). I'm feeling though, that it's become more and more popular over the last year so that's a great thing!

  • @zaxirylaughlin4541
    @zaxirylaughlin4541 3 роки тому +2

    I found this video to be super informational and extremely helpful! Thank you so much for breaking down the differences and similarities between the two platforms!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      Ooh you're so welcome, really happy if it helped! ♥

  • @arigs8884
    @arigs8884 3 роки тому +1

    This video was so helpful! I was so confused as to which crowdfunding site to use, but this really laid it out for me to have made my choice. Also, you're absolutely adorable. Thank you for the helpful video!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      Aaw thanks so much for your kind words! Really happy it helped 😊 So which site did you end up chosing?

  • @slowblinkz
    @slowblinkz Рік тому +1

    Thank you Sabrina! THis is so insightful! You just helped me choose the best platform for me as a starting artist. So Thank you! :3 You are also very pretty!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  Рік тому

      Aaw thank you 🥺❤️ Glad to be of help! Which platform did you choose? 😊

  • @jademontialvozepeda7155
    @jademontialvozepeda7155 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much! This is what I needed it ❤ I've been searching for hours for a good opinion and I am so happy to have found yours. Love from Mexico ❤

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for your kind feedback, so happy it helped! ♥ Have you considered whether you'd go with Ko-Fi or Patreon yet? ☺

  • @hellopumpkin86
    @hellopumpkin86 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. You explained the differences between Patreon and Ko-Fi so well!
    Now that a year has passed since you posted this video, I was wondering:
    1. If you are able to make multiple tier memberships yet or does Ko-Fi still only limit free Ko-fi plans to one tier until the $6 upgrade?
    2. Does Ko-fi charge 5% per membership payment or does Ko-fi charge 5% monthly for a creator's membership income (like Patreon does through their "Lite" plan)?
    Thank you so much for your help!
    Sidenote: I love your outfit! ❤

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  2 роки тому +3

      Hello an thanks so much! Yes it's one of my favourite dresses haha 😂💕
      To answer your questions:
      1. Yes, enabling membership tiers for everyone was one of the latest big features Ko-Fi offered last year, and it's possible to have multiple tiers now with various rewards, pricing, etc.
      2. Quoting Ko-Fi's help Center: "When someone becomes a member, they pay you directly so you get the money instantly in your PayPal or Stripe account the moment they sign up. No minimum balances, no waiting for payout days. Memberships renew monthly on (or very close to) the day of the month the member first paid you." So I guess the 5% are immediately charged as soon as you receive your payment, as you won't have a global payout like Patreon does.
      Hope this helps 😊

  • @bengazi179
    @bengazi179 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video. You really showing me your better side of yourself. 😊

  • @afelliwww
    @afelliwww 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for creating the video! ^^ It really helped me to know about patreon and kofi and choose the right one for me between them for me

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      Ooh you're so welcome dear ♥ So which one did you choose then? 😊

    • @afelliwww
      @afelliwww 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann i chose to use ko-fi ^^ it really seems much better to me than patreon

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      ​@@afelliwww Good choice! ^^ It might also interest you, I didn't mention it in the video because it has only been unveiled recently, Ko-Fi has enabled membership tiers for anyone now. Just like Patreon, you can create various tiers and it's available for both free and Gold accounts. As much as I loved Patreon back in the days, just from a technical point of view now that Ko-Fi has different tiers too, it offers much more interesting features for artists 😊

    • @afelliwww
      @afelliwww 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann wow that's amazing!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @S H O N K I E Aaw you're the sweetest ♥ Will probably do a new video on Ko-Fi someday, they just keep adding news and news haha x)

  • @MusespeakStudio
    @MusespeakStudio 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this. I've been trying to decide which platform is the best fit for my needs. This has been very helpful!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      Which one did you decide to go with ultimately? Always feel free to share your link to inspire others, and happy this video helped ☺

    • @BudoNoTabi
      @BudoNoTabi 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann I decided on Ko-fi and Subscribestar. Looking forward to working on both platforms.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      @@BudoNoTabi That's great, good luck with both of them! Didn't know Subscribestar btw, will look into it 😊

  • @3oalexandra879
    @3oalexandra879 3 роки тому +1

    love the way you describe you got yourself an other subs 🥰

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      Aaw that's so sweet! Welcome here Alexandra ♥

  • @zoltanfabiansk5795
    @zoltanfabiansk5795 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you. This is very helpful. Seems it is better to start with easier set up than spend too much time with administration.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much for your feedback! Yes, whenever you're starting out with something new, I'd recommend just setting it up and trying - after a while, you'll see what works, what doesn't, and you can adjust and develop it into something bigger accordingly 🙂

  • @mortgagefinancing5558
    @mortgagefinancing5558 2 роки тому +1

    When you upload your videos is it on Kofi protected platform or do you upload a link of your video? In which case you would need a video platform protector im presuming.....

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  2 роки тому

      I don't remember if there's a function to immediately upload your videos, I've always shared the link to UA-cam or else. It's certain though, it's not a specific video protected platform 🙂

  • @lasimek
    @lasimek 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Sabrina for making this video.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave this nice comment 😊♥

  • @tumelopeane8937
    @tumelopeane8937 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much, this video was very insightful! 😊

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      Happy it helped, thank you for taking the time to comment! 😊 And wishing you all the best for your fitness practice and services, that's definitely something that can benefit lots of people!

  • @kayofoz
    @kayofoz 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      You're very welcome! Are you considering one of those two options or already tried? 😊

    • @kayofoz
      @kayofoz 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann Considering/comparing different options. I made a Patreon awhile back but never really used it. The more I'm learning about it, I think Ko-Fi might actually be a better fit for what I'm doing.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @@kayofoz I see! Well Ko-Fi is indeed the easiest option to start out. But then again, it'll depends on your goals and time you want to invest in running either one of them 😊

  • @liankirmag.6060
    @liankirmag.6060 3 роки тому +1

    In ko-fi can people still see your work like in patreon once they stop supporting you? I don't like that in patreon and I also don't like that you have to use youtube or vimeo to share the links, I want a platform where you can upload directly the videos without having to use YT or vimeo.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      In Ko-Fi you have the possibility to post supporter-only content when you have a Gold Account, which is available only to people who paid for 30 days. After this period, if they don't support you again, they'll lose access. Same for Patreon, the supporter-only content is only available if they have pledged, and they loose their access if they unpledge. People can only see your work if you make it as a public post (or with Ko-Fi, if you have a free artist account, by default all the posts are public and available to anyone, whether they support you or not). 🙂
      And yes I understand it can be bothersome to always use third party apps to integrate some videos. Maybe it'll change someday 😶

    • @liankirmag.6060
      @liankirmag.6060 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann thank you for your answer. 😊

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      @@liankirmag.6060 You're very welcome 😊

  • @loucash5862
    @loucash5862 3 роки тому +1

    Couldn'd decided which platform to choose... So I created an account on both patreon+ko-fi to check what works better to me.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      That's an idea too! Depending on what you do, you can always repurpose your content / rewards for both so that it's less work for you while you're in testing mode 😉 Would love to know your opinion of what works best for you in the end!

    • @loucash5862
      @loucash5862 3 роки тому +2

      @@SabrinaKaufmann After 3 months of playing both I'd say the sites can be run the same time. You can unlock my content by ongoing payment on patreon or buy the same content on ko-fi by one time donation (usualy higer). Ko-fi is also great for commission.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @@loucash5862 Thanks for sharing your experience, will surely come in handy for other people who might consider both options at the same time as well ☺Wishing you all the best with your own art!

    • @loucash5862
      @loucash5862 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann Fingers crossed for all creators!

    • @omnibussy
      @omnibussy 3 роки тому

      @@loucash5862 hi, i hope youtube notifies you of my reply! i'm curious, have you gotten any complaints or negative response to having the same content unlocked for ongoing patreon subscription and a ko-fi? it makes a lot of sense from the creator's perspective and i've seen others do it, but i wonder if potential patrons have expressed feeling a particular way about it

  • @soouth8305
    @soouth8305 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, Sabrina, I have a question. Registering with kofi requires paypal business. So, did you know PayPal Business has a monthly admin fee or something? And will it be charged if I change my personal paypal version to business paypal?

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      Hello! As far as I know, Paypal doesn't charge any fee for a business account, whether you already have one or want to switch from your personal account. I've been using mine for years and never got charged anything except from the "normal" fees when doing a transaction :)

    • @soouth8305
      @soouth8305 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann thank you very much for the information, very hard to get even though looking for it in various sources. your answer really helped me, thanks again.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @@soouth8305 You're very welcome! So you're ready to open your Ko-Fi page? For you too, feel free to share your link, it may interest or inspire some people around here 😊

  • @poltoon6637
    @poltoon6637 3 роки тому +2

    Patreon banned me long time ago. ⌛ they deleted two years of my work I'm just saying it wasn't a good experience for me and and they could not reinstate my account and they didn't even want to help me..so I go w ko- fi now

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      What seriously? And they didn't even give a specific reason or anything? 😮

  • @xs-writing
    @xs-writing 3 роки тому +1

    Hi! I have a question regarding commission. Does it work like fiverr, that is when someone is ordering a commission, they pay the money while ordering that stays in the buffer and the artist get paid once the work get delivered or there's a chance that the artist delivers the work and then not get paid later on?

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +5

      With Ko-Fi, you get paid first when the person orders. Then it's either up to you, you can accept the commission, or refuse by issuing a refund. Now it depends on the people, but in case you want to make a living with commissions, I'd really recommend to better protect yourself and NOT accept any gigs where the client isn't willing to pay beforehand like Fiverr's system, because it can often lead to very draining projects and clients who won't respect your boundaries 🙂

    • @xs-writing
      @xs-writing 3 роки тому +4

      @@SabrinaKaufmann thank you very much for clearing my doubts. 🙏
      I had this exact concern in my mind as it happened before with me. And fiverr doesn't protect the sellers well enough!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @@xs-writing You're very welcome! And sorry this has happened to you. Indeed, I think that Fiverr isn't well suited for artists with those terms. But yeah, we learn from those experiences 😶 Wishing you all the best for your future commissions! ☺

    • @xs-writing
      @xs-writing 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann thank you and to you too ✨

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @@xs-writing 💗☺

  • @chasewilltin8567
    @chasewilltin8567 3 роки тому +3

    beautifull dress

  • @lyrablack8621
    @lyrablack8621 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      You're welcome! Are you starting out as an artist and looking into crowdfunding, or already drawing for a while? 😊

    • @lyrablack8621
      @lyrablack8621 3 роки тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann Nope! Tbh I just noticed that most of the UA-camrs I watch use Patreon, but some use Ko-fi, so I was curious about the difference lol

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому

      @@lyrablack8621 Oh I see 😋

  • @marianhernandez6655
    @marianhernandez6655 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this patreon seems to change alot of rules ..

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      I only saw your comment now sorryy 😱 Yeah Patreon changes, but I think lots of changes were slowly made over the years and not everything at once, so it still gives you time to adjust as a content creator 🙂

  • @gamerkingprince5631
    @gamerkingprince5631 3 роки тому +1

    Hello

  • @maxsoleil2228
    @maxsoleil2228 3 роки тому +1

    English is not my mother tongue, so I have a lot of trouble understanding you.
    Speak more clearly, please, and don't mumble.

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      I see you have "Soleil" in your name, so in case you'd be more familiar with French, you also have the French translated podcast video: ua-cam.com/video/iRSa6Yj_8uE/v-deo.html
      Each of my video also has subtitles available to make it easier for anyone to follow along. You may activate them in the lower right part of the video 🙂

    • @maxsoleil2228
      @maxsoleil2228 3 роки тому

      @@SabrinaKaufmann Anhand deines Namens gehe ich davon aus, dass dies deine eigentliche Muttersprache ist. Aber man kann ja anhand der Nickname's eigentlich auf nichts Schlussffolgern ;-)

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  3 роки тому +1

      @UCcQAp9%F0%9F%98%8A%F0%9F%98%8AxpkqkqDUlkiM48nvg Man weiss ja nie, darum habe ich einfach darauf aufmerksam gemacht, falls das angenehmer für dich wäre 😊

  • @CemeteryDxll
    @CemeteryDxll Рік тому +1

    Another thing! With Parteon lately a lot of things have been getting linked on some p-rn site
    So
    Kofi is a better alternative imo

    • @SabrinaKaufmann
      @SabrinaKaufmann  Рік тому +1

      Oh really? 😳 Thanks for sharing, I wasn't aware of this!

    • @CemeteryDxll
      @CemeteryDxll Рік тому +1

      @@SabrinaKaufmann your welcome :D