I think this minion build is one of the most comfortable to play since you don't need to cast any curse or spam flame wall for raging spirits. (DD is rarely used as well) Minion Command skills are rarely used and you have very little screen clutter. Combine this with very good boss damage and it is probably one of the best minion builds when it comes to clear speed (Minions are not great in this department overall to be fair) I have been asked a lot what I think is "overall" the best minion build, this is my answer. Guide when ? - soon probably? ps: There is no reason to use vulnerability when the infernal hound armour breaks quite fast. Cold infusion is used to chill enemies and the ignite damage is irrelevant. Frost mages still has the highest boss damage and is better for Simulacrum. (for reference www.twitch.tv/videos/2334777481?t=02h06m05s ) If you really want to, it is possible to fit raging spirits and flame wall as well. You remove blink and DD. Edit: At 3:55 you can see how you set your minions to 0 summoned with one weapon set and how it is used to blink away and respawn all of them around you. Edit2: I have re-added the raging spirits & Flame wall setup as the 4th gem setup after "Max" for those that prefer to play that. It can be considered stronger but you need to spam flame wall and suffer FPS drops :,) It has a higher attribute requirement as well.
But would it be slightly better if you still cast flame wall? Maybe I'm missing something but i interpreted it as "it's decent enough even without wall/dd".
In your build guide I'm assuming we're to ignore "Use Hex bloom for mapping and Focused Curse for bossing" in your notes since there are no curses or am I missing something?
so you mean set blink to preserv to only weapon B and in weapon A set it will trun off to allow maximum spirit for minion? how to use blink then? when I press bar it will not swap to weapon set B automaticly
+1 sub, thank for this minion setup, swapped from srs arsonist to this build, way better clear, overall better ia, i'm playing a +11 minion levels setup with life/strengh stacking for spirit and ullr boots on infernalist and it's awesome, boss melts, lot of tanking, decent move speed with second hand setup, i only died 2 time since i swapped build yesterday, not going back to srs now xD thank a lot :D PS/:Still not good for +4 breachs, but i already have an contagion poison damage build for this content, so this one is perfect for budget bossing
This build is very good. I did it and really enjoy it. One question - how can I find rings from planer? When I finding it it shows another rings with same name.
On the budget version of the planner, which sniper setup is for bossing, which for maps? Same question for reavers. Do you consider map bosses as bosses when it comes to the mapping supports, or just pinnacle bosses?
During gameplay, their number of minions skyrockets. Is this some kind of visual bug, or can the number of minions actually scale? For example, at 4:22, they have 32 snipers
What's your thoughts on adding an SRS version back to this? I think it's much stronger overall and I'm having trouble putting the right gems. My current idea I'm running is dropping clerics + DD. Cheers for the sick builds!
Drop blink and DD. flame wall - fortress - arcane tempo- mobility-arcane surge Raging spirits - fire infusion - elemental focus- immolate- fire penetration - fire mastery Edit I can add it as a 4th gem setup in the planner.
Clerics can be dropped completely, if you ramp up Minion Life and Physical Defense, and 83% Resi with your Passives/Jewels. If you hit the 15k life mark, no boss will be able to kill them. Not even a one shot mechanic by bosses - and I ran all of them. Jewel is the real gamechanger here. Minion Damage, Physical Resistance, Life. With FrostMages and the right support gems, you can clear okayish for Breach. Run Sekeshma trials until you either get the Unique Diamond with +Spirit in Radius or you got the Div to buy it. Whenever you hit last boss, invite ppl for 80 Ex (decent price) to get all the Ascendancies....do nothing else until you reach the above mentioned Diamond. Mapping, Bossing will feel completely different if you can run 3-5 more mages. Once you reach this, aim for getting 2 gambler rings and ingineuity belt so that you have a decent 200% IIR. Then you are gtg. :) Doing maps below 200% IIR is a waste of good maps imho. I ran 200 T15 maps with 80% IIR and 200 T15 maps with 204% IIR. Exalt, Div wise there was not a big difference to be honest but the rare items that dropped....were a MASSIVE difference. Bosses usually dropped (Tier 5) only items, mostly rare monsters as well....and I was able to sell a 1020 ES chestpiece with 35 Int and 59 Spirit, two +5 lightning spell wands with 120% dmg total and 190 Mana, etc. Stuff, that I never found in all my 3 chars 92+ playtime.
Clerics can be dropped completely, if you ramp up Minion Life and Physical Defense, and 83% Resi with your Passives/Jewels. If you hit the 15k life mark, no boss will be able to kill them. Not even a one shot mechanic by bosses - and I ran all of them. Jewel is the real gamechanger here. Minion Damage, Physical Resistance, Life. With FrostMages and the right support gems, you can clear okayish for Breach. Run Sekeshma trials until you either get the Unique Diamond with +Spirit in Radius or you got the Div to buy it. Whenever you hit last boss, invite ppl for 80 Ex (decent price) to get all the Ascendancies....do nothing else until you reach the above mentioned Diamond. Mapping, Bossing will feel completely different if you can run 3-5 more mages. Once you reach this, aim for getting 2 gambler rings and ingineuity belt so that you have a decent 200% IIR. Then you are gtg. :) Doing maps below 200% IIR is a waste of good maps imho. I ran 200 T15 maps with 80% IIR and 200 T15 maps with 204% IIR. Exalt, Div wise there was not a big difference to be honest but the rare items that dropped....were a MASSIVE difference. Bosses usually dropped (Tier 5) only items, mostly rare monsters as well....and I was able to sell a 1020 ES chestpiece with 35 Int and 59 Spirit, two +5 lightning spell wands with 120% dmg total and 190 Mana, etc. Stuff, that I never found in all my 3 chars 92+ playtime.
I've been messing around with snipers on my second witch (now level 81). Looking for a nice alternative to the arsonist/SRS build on my main. Really want something that can clear breaches with comfortably. So far I've been struggling in that department even on my lvl 93 arsonist build. I'm hoping this combination will be good for that? Thanks for all your minion work.
Hello Helm, thanks for the great minion builds! What build would you suggest for a SSF minion infernalist? I am currently doing the vanilla arsonist, not bad at default maps but kind of hard to do breaches/deli/rituals (cant kill mobs fast enough, I die sometimes when zerged in ritual). Thanks!
How the heck do you not even get a single scratch while standing in the middle of all the enemies? Is that your resis or are you holding the shield up all the time? I did that yesterday and died within one second^^ I tried to build this as good as I could, but I am missing some gem-slots etc. And the equipment is so expensive.
Have you tried using choir of the storm + necromantic talisman with skeletal lightning mages? If so, does it do much of anything, or does the effect not apply to them and/or are they all on the same cooldown timer?
I have not tested it, but if it works the same way as in PoE1 then Minions cannot use the added skills items have. Also loosing +3 minions on an amulet is a massive drop in damage.
@@HelmBreaker594 their is a node on the passive tree that applies all things in the amulet to your minions instead of you, no clue how it works tho gl testing it if you decide to 😅
Thank you for the great build! I tried it right away and made a few adjustments for myself. I'm currently at level 85 and running T14 maps. I hope this might be helpful for someone. - For clearing non-rare mobs, I was using Fork and Scattershot, but the damage felt insufficient, so I removed Fork and increased Attack Speed instead. For boss fights, I swap Scattershot with a gem that increases skill levels. - I limited Skeletal Reavers to two. This is because I can't clear maps as fast as you do yet (though it’s still fast for a minion build). By the way, when do you use Detonate Dead? I can't quite figure out the right situations to use it effectively.
Sorry i realize this is an endgame build post but do you think I could make a reaver/sniper build work while leveling? I've been following your leveling guide on maxroll and its gone great but i just started Act 1 cruel and the flame wall spam is just completely destroying my fps sadly. As ive gotten more arsonists its just gotten worse. I don't really want to give up minions so I was thinking of trying another build and see if its any better. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great guide as always, Helm. Is it possible to run this build with an Omen Scepter rather than a Rattling Scepter? what would change then?
I would avoid using any other sceptre but rattling sceptre for this build, since warriors provide lacerate for gem swaping to bloodlust, maim and blind for more accuracy. If your omen is really good then keep using it but know that it is the weaker option. You should remove fire exposure and cold infusion from the dog and move maim and blind into it. If you do bossing swap in lacerate instead of blind so that you can use bloodlust on reavers.
@@TheodoR_Ei imho, +4 with damage and spirit is cheaper than +5 (both rattlings), and you can use a trenchtimbre for an additionnal +3 level and some spirit in offhand if in need of more damage (my bossing swap setup atm) for like 1 div (a bit more for +15/+30 spirit on trench)
Work fine in open maps, as all minion build, but it's slow in smaller areas like augury. Still better than srs overall, way better survivability too. Bossing is great, but it's not a breach character, theses are super rippy with all breach points, and it's still too slow for them. An overall great build I'm playing a +11pickaxe setup with life/str stacking for spirit, and ullr boots for more minions cost reduction, feel great (was level 65 when i started playing it yesterday, now i'm 88 with only 2 deaths because of missplay, and citadels cleared easily with it)
Love the build, but planner seems a little off. There are a lot of repeated support gems there and well, the game doesn't allow it. I'd suggest maxroll's planner devs to implement the restriction :)
The only repeated support gems are for the two skill gems for reaver/sniper. It is to show that the supports change when you have a mapping setup and when using a bossing setup. This is pointed out in the notes.
been trying this and honestly cannot make eye of winter work for me, my dps drops alot. I've replaced it for flame wall and raging spirits but kept the rest
There is no good way to search for it atm, you can filter for large and then search ctrl+f search for minions. Then do that search for each price level of 1/2/3/4 etc div.
Awesome videos as always! Been playing your arsonist build in HC at level 90 and looking to start attempting bosses. Would love to get your advice on how to progress next: 1. Of your 3 fav builds (frost+srs, sniper+srs, sniper+reaver), which do you feel is safest for hardcore (for both doing bosses like arbitor/trialmaster or mapping)? Not dying is definitely my primary concern. 2. What has been your primary way of generating currency? I see breach is a popular farming method, but minion build seems to be pretty slow for that.
Snipers are the best use physical damage no flame spam and if you want use blasphemy …no reason to use reavers if you need AOE throw chain on the snipers
Sharing a snipers with reavers definitely looks like a skeleton army, but your items are so high gear that all the mobs die before the reavers can approach. Wouldn't it be better to use only snipers?
Quite often the snipers end up despawning because they are to far behind but the reavers usually run together with you so they can deal damage most of the time.
@@HelmBreaker594 I'll be honest I never use curse and the damage has been amazing even on frost mage builds. Before it even goes off everything dies. Even some bosses at T17.
I'm a minion main and I've been testing a lot of things, trying different combinations as well. This is similar to something I did. Unfortunately I don't think we can do that much variety or truly push minion builds into end-game cleaing efficiency until they've fixed a lot of the glaring issues. De-spawning, body blocking and general humbug with the minion AI. I am very much looking forward to them fixing this and hopefully adding convocation. As well as the Summon Spectre gem. Until then it truly feels like we've hit a wall as summoners. Lovely showcase though. You did a great job considering the limitations we're currently under! Can't wait to see if you come up with something interesting once the spectres are out.
The issue is that minions have collision with each other which makes NO sense at all. You don't have collision against them but they run into each other all the time and end up creating a bottleneck. If they'd remove their collision this issue would most likely go away.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 I'm glad you summarized what I meant by body blocking. Thanks. But no, the issue would remain. On open maps and with 30% movement speed boots you will outrun your minions in a single screen and they will despawn.
@@SigganGaming Actually something which is new in PoE2, your minions gain the movement speed from your boots so if you also have Relentless Fallen their normal movement speed is higher than your own. So fixing body blocking and some AI improvements and that issue should not happen. But the despawn when minions are to far away is also stupid, it should be like in poe1 where they get instantly teleported to you. Hopefully GGG fixes all these issues.
Thank you again for the awesome guides. I tried the frost mage build on HC and it's been challenging scaling up damage since crit jewels are hard to find in trade (I was around 4.5k dps). I could give up a bunch of es, but it feels sketchy in maps. For non-crit build, would you recommend arsonist or sniper? I originally ran arsonist, but it definitely feels more dangerous on boss versus frost mage.
I'm guessing you didn't ready the bottom of your screen when selecting a support skill. By default they had all the options available to you and only show the "recommended" skills. You can press a button to reveal all skills.
I love my minions they are very strong but they feels so AWFUL to play with endgame to the point I’m considering switching classes completely it’s like having bricks tied to your ankles
Hmm, I would like to switch to your build and try this out but would like to know more about crit chance and damage you have in total for those minions and how much I would need to hit that hard. Unfortunately saw your scepter running rattling beside omen so that will be a while to upgrade. I like to see you run more crazier map modifer on monsters like health, shield, armored, etc on t18's that would be more entertaining to watch XD
Bro no one cares about your silly meta builds, some people play to just kill stuff for an hour and call it a day and imo they winning the game over epeen measuring types like you.
Man this is so bad if you compare with other classes that i dont know if they want us to play Minions. And you have good gear. I mean all Minions sucks, compare It with a Stormweaver, 2 diferent games
The sad Truth is its shit... For me minions was good to some idk 90lvl meaby. The clean speed is shit af compare to others builds even spark is better with budget build. Even the last breach I need to call friend with spark coz clean speed to slow and time out. I'm disappointed hope they buff somehow minions. And fix minions blocking on every map or they dying coz u have 35% speed on boots. And btw u have all maxed.
Yeah, minion ai combined with garbage body blocking minions does make it shit compared to builds like spark (which probably will get nerfed) but there are others which are just a lot better. Hopefully they improve the AI and remove body blocking for minions.
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I think this minion build is one of the most comfortable to play since you don't need to cast any curse or spam flame wall for raging spirits. (DD is rarely used as well)
Minion Command skills are rarely used and you have very little screen clutter.
Combine this with very good boss damage and it is probably one of the best minion builds when it comes to clear speed (Minions are not great in this department overall to be fair)
I have been asked a lot what I think is "overall" the best minion build, this is my answer.
Guide when ? - soon probably?
ps:
There is no reason to use vulnerability when the infernal hound armour breaks quite fast.
Cold infusion is used to chill enemies and the ignite damage is irrelevant.
Frost mages still has the highest boss damage and is better for Simulacrum. (for reference www.twitch.tv/videos/2334777481?t=02h06m05s )
If you really want to, it is possible to fit raging spirits and flame wall as well.
You remove blink and DD.
Edit: At 3:55 you can see how you set your minions to 0 summoned with one weapon set and how it is used to blink away and respawn all of them around you.
Edit2: I have re-added the raging spirits & Flame wall setup as the 4th gem setup after "Max" for those that prefer to play that. It can be considered stronger but you need to spam flame wall and suffer FPS drops :,)
It has a higher attribute requirement as well.
But would it be slightly better if you still cast flame wall? Maybe I'm missing something but i interpreted it as "it's decent enough even without wall/dd".
In your build guide I'm assuming we're to ignore "Use Hex bloom for mapping and Focused Curse for bossing" in your notes since there are no curses or am I missing something?
@@Rogdizzle I will remove that text.
@@08Sindri if you really want to use flame wall and srs you can by removing Blink and dd.
This requires quite high attributes tho
so you mean set blink to preserv to only weapon B and in weapon A set it will trun off to allow maximum spirit for minion? how to use blink then? when I press bar it will not swap to weapon set B automaticly
+1 sub, thank for this minion setup, swapped from srs arsonist to this build, way better clear, overall better ia, i'm playing a +11 minion levels setup with life/strengh stacking for spirit and ullr boots on infernalist and it's awesome, boss melts, lot of tanking, decent move speed with second hand setup, i only died 2 time since i swapped build yesterday, not going back to srs now xD
thank a lot :D
PS/:Still not good for +4 breachs, but i already have an contagion poison damage build for this content, so this one is perfect for budget bossing
is there a way to break down, in your guide, on which setups are for clearing and which are for bossing?
Thanks!
I fell in love with your Frost Mage build; but now I have something else to try!
This build is very good. I did it and really enjoy it. One question - how can I find rings from planer? When I finding it it shows another rings with same name.
On the budget version of the planner, which sniper setup is for bossing, which for maps? Same question for reavers. Do you consider map bosses as bosses when it comes to the mapping supports, or just pinnacle bosses?
Is a sniper better than a wizard to balance mapping and boss? I'm playing as a wizard, but I'm feeling frustrated with mapping
the maxroll guide has 2x reaver gem setup (budget:boss+map) but both have the same gems just in another order.
Yeah, I have it like that to make the change into Mid look better.
During gameplay, their number of minions skyrockets. Is this some kind of visual bug, or can the number of minions actually scale? For example, at 4:22, they have 32 snipers
when you weapon swap it counts both sets and when you resummon minions as well so if you swap a bunch it keeps going up its bugged
What's your thoughts on adding an SRS version back to this? I think it's much stronger overall and I'm having trouble putting the right gems.
My current idea I'm running is dropping clerics + DD. Cheers for the sick builds!
Drop blink and DD.
flame wall - fortress - arcane tempo- mobility-arcane surge
Raging spirits - fire infusion - elemental focus- immolate- fire penetration - fire mastery
Edit I can add it as a 4th gem setup in the planner.
@@HelmBreaker594 Thanks for the quick reply brother
Clerics can be dropped completely, if you ramp up Minion Life and Physical Defense, and 83% Resi with your Passives/Jewels. If you hit the 15k life mark, no boss will be able to kill them. Not even a one shot mechanic by bosses - and I ran all of them. Jewel is the real gamechanger here. Minion Damage, Physical Resistance, Life.
With FrostMages and the right support gems, you can clear okayish for Breach. Run Sekeshma trials until you either get the Unique Diamond with +Spirit in Radius or you got the Div to buy it. Whenever you hit last boss, invite ppl for 80 Ex (decent price) to get all the Ascendancies....do nothing else until you reach the above mentioned Diamond. Mapping, Bossing will feel completely different if you can run 3-5 more mages.
Once you reach this, aim for getting 2 gambler rings and ingineuity belt so that you have a decent 200% IIR. Then you are gtg. :) Doing maps below 200% IIR is a waste of good maps imho. I ran 200 T15 maps with 80% IIR and 200 T15 maps with 204% IIR. Exalt, Div wise there was not a big difference to be honest but the rare items that dropped....were a MASSIVE difference. Bosses usually dropped (Tier 5) only items, mostly rare monsters as well....and I was able to sell a 1020 ES chestpiece with 35 Int and 59 Spirit, two +5 lightning spell wands with 120% dmg total and 190 Mana, etc.
Stuff, that I never found in all my 3 chars 92+ playtime.
is it possible to play this build when I hit endgame or I have to start with srs + snipers first then transition to reavers + snipers?
Clerics can be dropped completely, if you ramp up Minion Life and Physical Defense, and 83% Resi with your Passives/Jewels. If you hit the 15k life mark, no boss will be able to kill them. Not even a one shot mechanic by bosses - and I ran all of them. Jewel is the real gamechanger here. Minion Damage, Physical Resistance, Life.
With FrostMages and the right support gems, you can clear okayish for Breach. Run Sekeshma trials until you either get the Unique Diamond with +Spirit in Radius or you got the Div to buy it. Whenever you hit last boss, invite ppl for 80 Ex (decent price) to get all the Ascendancies....do nothing else until you reach the above mentioned Diamond. Mapping, Bossing will feel completely different if you can run 3-5 more mages.
Once you reach this, aim for getting 2 gambler rings and ingineuity belt so that you have a decent 200% IIR. Then you are gtg. :) Doing maps below 200% IIR is a waste of good maps imho. I ran 200 T15 maps with 80% IIR and 200 T15 maps with 204% IIR. Exalt, Div wise there was not a big difference to be honest but the rare items that dropped....were a MASSIVE difference. Bosses usually dropped (Tier 5) only items, mostly rare monsters as well....and I was able to sell a 1020 ES chestpiece with 35 Int and 59 Spirit, two +5 lightning spell wands with 120% dmg total and 190 Mana, etc.
Stuff, that I never found in all my 3 chars 92+ playtime.
I've been messing around with snipers on my second witch (now level 81). Looking for a nice alternative to the arsonist/SRS build on my main. Really want something that can clear breaches with comfortably. So far I've been struggling in that department even on my lvl 93 arsonist build. I'm hoping this combination will be good for that? Thanks for all your minion work.
I’ve been telling people to use snipers for like a week now and they all say “EHHHHGGGG ARSONISTS BETTER!”
Frost mages are worlds better than arsonist.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 Do you think frost is still better than this reaver / snipper combo?
how we should understand this "RED" "Green" Yellow" skills from passive skills tree upper?
Yellow is Ascendancy poinys
Green and red are for the different skill trees when you swap between weapon set 1/2.
Dodge over blink?
Which instill do you recommend the most? Can't decide between both.
@@zenicalius deadly swarm
Hello Helm, thanks for the great minion builds!
What build would you suggest for a SSF minion infernalist? I am currently doing the vanilla arsonist, not bad at default maps but kind of hard to do breaches/deli/rituals (cant kill mobs fast enough, I die sometimes when zerged in ritual). Thanks!
Where can i find yr character stats?
How the heck do you not even get a single scratch while standing in the middle of all the enemies? Is that your resis or are you holding the shield up all the time? I did that yesterday and died within one second^^ I tried to build this as good as I could, but I am missing some gem-slots etc. And the equipment is so expensive.
58% passive block chance, 75 elemental resistances and 75% chaos resistance. Grim feast replenishes any ES lost.
Have you tried using choir of the storm + necromantic talisman with skeletal lightning mages? If so, does it do much of anything, or does the effect not apply to them and/or are they all on the same cooldown timer?
I have not tested it, but if it works the same way as in PoE1 then Minions cannot use the added skills items have. Also loosing +3 minions on an amulet is a massive drop in damage.
@@HelmBreaker594 their is a node on the passive tree that applies all things in the amulet to your minions instead of you, no clue how it works tho gl testing it if you decide to 😅
Thank you for the great build! I tried it right away and made a few adjustments for myself.
I'm currently at level 85 and running T14 maps.
I hope this might be helpful for someone.
- For clearing non-rare mobs, I was using Fork and Scattershot, but the damage felt insufficient, so I removed Fork and increased Attack Speed instead.
For boss fights, I swap Scattershot with a gem that increases skill levels.
- I limited Skeletal Reavers to two. This is because I can't clear maps as fast as you do yet (though it’s still fast for a minion build).
By the way, when do you use Detonate Dead?
I can't quite figure out the right situations to use it effectively.
DD is mainly used when opening breaches.
Sorry i realize this is an endgame build post but do you think I could make a reaver/sniper build work while leveling? I've been following your leveling guide on maxroll and its gone great but i just started Act 1 cruel and the flame wall spam is just completely destroying my fps sadly. As ive gotten more arsonists its just gotten worse. I don't really want to give up minions so I was thinking of trying another build and see if its any better. Thanks again.
Try his frost mage build, its easier on the fps. simple switch
Any specific reason not to use the CI version? To completely void chaos damage for a few skill points seems worth it.
You can no longer use "Beidants hand" and "Beidants will" ascendancys and you need to learn how to manage your infernal flame.
Thanks for the great guide as always, Helm. Is it possible to run this build with an Omen Scepter rather than a Rattling Scepter? what would change then?
I would avoid using any other sceptre but rattling sceptre for this build, since warriors provide lacerate for gem swaping to bloodlust, maim and blind for more accuracy.
If your omen is really good then keep using it but know that it is the weaker option.
You should remove fire exposure and cold infusion from the dog and move maim and blind into it.
If you do bossing swap in lacerate instead of blind so that you can use bloodlust on reavers.
@@HelmBreaker594hmm. What's better in terms of scaling then - rattling +4 +~50% damage dealt by allies or rattling +5 w/o major damage auras?
@@TheodoR_Ei imho, +4 with damage and spirit is cheaper than +5 (both rattlings), and you can use a trenchtimbre for an additionnal +3 level and some spirit in offhand if in need of more damage (my bossing swap setup atm) for like 1 div (a bit more for +15/+30 spirit on trench)
hey where can i get your loot filter? :) can you showcase it?
It is neversinks lootfilter.
How do you decide between crit chance and crit dam? Is there a breakpoint of chance where you just all in on crit dam?
You want both, which is best is only something we can see when PoB2 becomes available.
Why is there no similar build guide on the maxrole?
There will be one this week.
Hows this build for endgame farming? Super tanky? I have infernalist at level 80 but wants something that can farm clear maps fast and easy. Thanks!
Work fine in open maps, as all minion build, but it's slow in smaller areas like augury.
Still better than srs overall, way better survivability too.
Bossing is great, but it's not a breach character, theses are super rippy with all breach points, and it's still too slow for them.
An overall great build
I'm playing a +11pickaxe setup with life/str stacking for spirit, and ullr boots for more minions cost reduction, feel great (was level 65 when i started playing it yesterday, now i'm 88 with only 2 deaths because of missplay, and citadels cleared easily with it)
Love the build, but planner seems a little off. There are a lot of repeated support gems there and well, the game doesn't allow it. I'd suggest maxroll's planner devs to implement the restriction :)
The only repeated support gems are for the two skill gems for reaver/sniper. It is to show that the supports change when you have a mapping setup and when using a bossing setup. This is pointed out in the notes.
hi ty for the guide this is my first class at poe2 with shield as newbie how Block chance work it's only work if i use raise shield skill ?
@@Lazy.Man. shields provide passive block as well, so you don't need to raise it.
been trying this and honestly cannot make eye of winter work for me, my dps drops alot. I've replaced it for flame wall and raging spirits but kept the rest
I re-added the raging spirits and flame wall setup as the 4th gem setup, you can look at that to see supports etc.
Is +2 Charm Slot in the belt so valuable? Or it's more a luxury than something really usefull?
You dont need +2 charms slots, I am using Ingenuity which only has 1.
@@HelmBreaker594 And about ingenuity, which minimum % of increased bonus is worth to get?
@@MrNanosTube Imo at least 60%
Do you know a method to search for the Time-Lost jewels?
There is no good way to search for it atm, you can filter for large and then search ctrl+f search for minions. Then do that search for each price level of 1/2/3/4 etc div.
@@HelmBreaker594 ok thx: how mutch div is ok for a Large and can i swap with Large + Attack speed + Increased dmg? or i need 3 mod jewels=?
@@HelmBreaker594 is the best setup attack and cast speed and increased dmg for a 3 Mod Jewel? for dmg or is crit better?
Awesome videos as always! Been playing your arsonist build in HC at level 90 and looking to start attempting bosses. Would love to get your advice on how to progress next:
1. Of your 3 fav builds (frost+srs, sniper+srs, sniper+reaver), which do you feel is safest for hardcore (for both doing bosses like arbitor/trialmaster or mapping)? Not dying is definitely my primary concern.
2. What has been your primary way of generating currency? I see breach is a popular farming method, but minion build seems to be pretty slow for that.
That will be frost mages due to freezing with srs
Been playing hc on his frost mages been blasting hard tbh frost mages are safest
Frost mages should be the safest bosser in HC.
I farm maps and do bosses mainly.
so wich minio build is YOUR favorite? Thinking about swapping aswell cause fuk this flamewall :P
Snipers are the best use physical damage no flame spam and if you want use blasphemy …no reason to use reavers if you need AOE throw chain on the snipers
@@itzjustkris7964 Frost by a long shot. THey destroy bosses and kill trash so fast.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 ur just wrong but i dont wanna argue
Sharing a snipers with reavers definitely looks like a skeleton army, but your items are so high gear that all the mobs die before the reavers can approach. Wouldn't it be better to use only snipers?
Quite often the snipers end up despawning because they are to far behind but the reavers usually run together with you so they can deal damage most of the time.
Do u prefer skeletal sniper or frost mage for farming and bosses?
I prefer snipers and reavers
@@HelmBreaker594 I'll be honest I never use curse and the damage has been amazing even on frost mage builds. Before it even goes off everything dies. Even some bosses at T17.
Do you use trench weapon for all +4 bosses?
You dont need to do it, but it increases the damage a lot and is a good option to do.
is the Vulnerability curse useless for this build?
There is no reason to use vulnerability curse when the infernal hound armour breaks quite fast using splinter and demolisher.
this build can do pinacle bosses ?
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I'm a minion main and I've been testing a lot of things, trying different combinations as well. This is similar to something I did. Unfortunately I don't think we can do that much variety or truly push minion builds into end-game cleaing efficiency until they've fixed a lot of the glaring issues. De-spawning, body blocking and general humbug with the minion AI. I am very much looking forward to them fixing this and hopefully adding convocation. As well as the Summon Spectre gem.
Until then it truly feels like we've hit a wall as summoners. Lovely showcase though. You did a great job considering the limitations we're currently under! Can't wait to see if you come up with something interesting once the spectres are out.
The issue is that minions have collision with each other which makes NO sense at all. You don't have collision against them but they run into each other all the time and end up creating a bottleneck. If they'd remove their collision this issue would most likely go away.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 I'm glad you summarized what I meant by body blocking. Thanks. But no, the issue would remain. On open maps and with 30% movement speed boots you will outrun your minions in a single screen and they will despawn.
@@SigganGaming Actually something which is new in PoE2, your minions gain the movement speed from your boots so if you also have Relentless Fallen their normal movement speed is higher than your own.
So fixing body blocking and some AI improvements and that issue should not happen.
But the despawn when minions are to far away is also stupid, it should be like in poe1 where they get instantly teleported to you.
Hopefully GGG fixes all these issues.
Thank you again for the awesome guides. I tried the frost mage build on HC and it's been challenging scaling up damage since crit jewels are hard to find in trade (I was around 4.5k dps). I could give up a bunch of es, but it feels sketchy in maps.
For non-crit build, would you recommend arsonist or sniper? I originally ran arsonist, but it definitely feels more dangerous on boss versus frost mage.
How to blink with infernalist? I want like that
I'm guessing you didn't ready the bottom of your screen when selecting a support skill. By default they had all the options available to you and only show the "recommended" skills. You can press a button to reveal all skills.
I struggle with Minion Damage, can you make a video, how we can scale Damage?
Read his guide it literally tells you in a simple way.
I love my minions they are very strong but they feels so AWFUL to play with endgame to the point I’m considering switching classes completely it’s like having bricks tied to your ankles
Yeah I completely agree with you, I really hope they change the AI and allow minions to move through each other.
@ and they need to be able to ATTACK WHILE MOVING or atleast not despawn as I try and drag them through maps
How the heck do you get 103% Spirit on a sceptre?
You can roll 2 mods that both give spirit, then you quality it up, vaal if you're a real man.
@@nicholasr.5842 So, that' like 50 Divine right there...
@@Yxalitis I've seen 180 spirit, +4 minion skills go for 1 or 2 divines regularly. Over 200 is definitely over the top and unnecessary to buy imo.
Sorry, I'm new, I don't quite understand which build gem is for maxroll mapping and which is for bosses?
fork and scatter is for clearing, the other layout for bosses
I still think arsonists with 2-3 snipers for gas cloud popping rares in one hit is better clear imo.
how to do delirium with infernalist? i can't pass after stage 11/15.
Simple. Switch to Frost Mages. No joke. They're much better in every way.
Hmm, I would like to switch to your build and try this out but would like to know more about crit chance and damage you have in total for those minions and how much I would need to hit that hard. Unfortunately saw your scepter running rattling beside omen so that will be a while to upgrade. I like to see you run more crazier map modifer on monsters like health, shield, armored, etc on t18's that would be more entertaining to watch XD
Also, would like to know your 6 jewels details on crit chance, crit dam, and energy shield, and minion and how much you invest on those altogether
How do I get more damage on my minions? What scales them? I am strugging on Pinnacle bosses.
If you had read any of my guides you should know this. minion skill levels, increased minion damage, minion crit, minion attack speed etc...
good, after 91 lvls I am ready to ditch firewall. the damage is meh and the absolute eye sore is past its shelf life.
vs simulacrum please )
Switch to Vulkan and you will fix those graphics glitches
My game instantly crashes when I switch to Vulkan for what ever reason.
this build is so slow its literally how GGG wishes us to play this game XD
Wanna know what that means? xD
It will probably never get nerfed kekw
@@HelmBreaker594 it can of course get nerfed, accidentaly and unintentionally ;) i hope this ruins your hopes.
So much faster to one shot 3 screens with monk. Your supposed to farm with monk or storm weaver then use items on your witch
Bro no one cares about your silly meta builds, some people play to just kill stuff for an hour and call it a day and imo they winning the game over epeen measuring types like you.
@@fireinpoe9317aren’t you the delightful asshole 🤷♂️
Man this is so bad if you compare with other classes that i dont know if they want us to play Minions. And you have good gear.
I mean all Minions sucks, compare It with a Stormweaver, 2 diferent games
The sad Truth is its shit... For me minions was good to some idk 90lvl meaby. The clean speed is shit af compare to others builds even spark is better with budget build. Even the last breach I need to call friend with spark coz clean speed to slow and time out. I'm disappointed hope they buff somehow minions. And fix minions blocking on every map or they dying coz u have 35% speed on boots. And btw u have all maxed.
Yeah, minion ai combined with garbage body blocking minions does make it shit compared to builds like spark (which probably will get nerfed) but there are others which are just a lot better.
Hopefully they improve the AI and remove body blocking for minions.