About the peeing in the cold. I know it is a bit frowned upon.... But... I use a small 500cc bottle. So I do not have to leave my sleepingbag and loose heat. I even keep it in my sleepingbag, to warm my feet. 😁
Who said it's frowned on? As far as I knew, most backpackers do this with a spare water bottle for that purpose or use their dirty water bottle. Anyone "frowning upon" where I put my piss when I'm sleeping in my tent, can go eff themselves. And that's whether it's cold or not.
I’m a bit surprised you didn’t mention a few other tips: keep your sleeping bag clean: always get clean (or as clean as possible) before you get in your sleeping bag and cover as much of your skin as possible, before getting in the sleeping bag. Dirt and body oil will, over time, compromise the warmth of the sleeping bag. I always do a wipe-down before I put on my loose-fitting sleeping layers (which are base layer gloves, lightweight socks, something to cover my head (like a skull cap, beanie or balaclava), long sleeves, and long pants in my sleeping bag. Another tip is put extra clothing in the sleeping bag with you. A puffy layer and other clothing items will eliminate any dead space in your sleeping bag and also provide you with extra insulation (it also makes your puffy layer readily accessible and pre-warmed for when need leave the sleeping bag in the morning). Another thing is to leave camp early. Right before dawn is typically the coldest part of the night, so if you wake up at 5:00 AM and you’re cold, and need to pee, go ahead and break camp and hit the trail. The brisk walking will keep you warm until the sun is up. Once the sun is out find a sunny spot to take a break on the trail for breakfast.
Something I learned by desperation: one time I had a hole in my boot. It was 0 Fahrenheit. My huskie was shedding (because huskies shed all the time). I took some of it off and stuffed it in my boot, remembering the stories of sheep herders in Scotland (or maybe Ireland). What I learned is that this huskie fur wicked sweat (I don’t know where it went tbh). I sweated but the fur always felt dry. My boot was like brand new Ugg boots but free! Since my other boot was in bad shape, I did the same to it too. Yeah, I got dome dog fur on my socks but so what! I was absolutely cozy!
In really colde weather, you need two sleeping pads, and at least one of them has to be foam, not inflatable. You don't want a pinhole to be a survival situation. If you use a foam pad with an inflatable (I use a Z-Rest with a Prolite), the foam goes on top - I won't bore you with the physics, but it works. You'll be warmer spreading your jacket on top of the sleeping bag rather than wearing it in the bag. It crushes the down less. The part of the jacket that's under you will be worthless, down has no insulating value when you're lying on it. Wear your beanie to bed. If it's a multiday trip, air out your sleeping bag every chance you get. (Your hiking style and mine are a little different, so I always have at least a couple of hours over the course of the day to air it out.) It WILL accumulate condensation, and airing it helps it dry at least a little bit. (I'm pretty bad with this, I tend to roll over onto my stomach in the night and have my breath condense in the bag hood.) I know my system. If I bank snow against the upwind side of my tent, use a double pad with my Marmot 0°F bag, wear fleece jacket and pants to bed (along with wool socks, a beanie, and gloves) spread my jacket on top of the bag, and put my pack under my feet, I'm good to about -10 °F. If the forecast is subzero I'm [probably not going, but sometimes the weather is worse than forecast. Yes, a whiz bottle is a good thing to have in the winter.
Kyle I love your vids man - I’m 41 with a family and kids and the crazy busy career that takes up 60hrs of my time each and every week - I’ve got another decade of raising these kids at minimum before I’m able to walk the AT and get back to the outdoors again - your vids are such a great breath of fresh air and they help me live vicariously through you and your info and experiences - by the time I’m ready to hike the AT, I’ll be filled with your plethora of knowledge! Thank you again!!
@@KyleHatesHiking Thanks for the kind response! There will always be time later on to enjoy countless adventures of the outdoors! Someday my friend! Some day!! 🙌
Dude, as someone that grew up with a dad that worked nonstop to become very wealthy, I can say that your kids would rather have time with you than the things your job affords them. Now in my 40’s, I don’t have much of a relationship with my dad. We just never really knew each other. Even though he and my mom are still married, I pretty much grew up with a single mom. As a kid, I wished we were poorer, because my poorer friends’ dads did a lot with us. I have a six year old son. We live in a tiny house which doesn’t take much money to keep up with. And we have one of the best father/son relationships I’ve ever come across. I’m not trying to talk shit on you. At all. I just want to share the results of my experiences with my dad and son.
@@amazonhippie7826 I’m too involved with the family for all that to happen - in too deep and way too involved - the kids are my life and I know them so well and they all know me and we make memories all the time - I literally have priorities for 3 things - family, work, exercise/running I appreciate the thoughts though - working a lot can be concerning for sure - however my son and my two step kids and their mother are my world - it ain’t ever gonna be any different
I hope you get to it. For right now, cherish every moment with your kids - it’s as small as taking them to a park and grilling pit. Face time is cherished time. Work work them on tiny projects - believe me, you will get all that back in future love. Trust me.
Testing your sleep system will make a huge difference. We slept out back last fall in the low 30's, with 15° BA bags and while we were warm enough, I upgraded my sleep pad (from uberlite R2 to an R4 pad) the next day. So glad I checked my gear first. 🐻🌲
I carry a piss bottle, sounds gross, but a (for a guy) a wide mouth bottle with a good lid (28-32 oz) works great, plus putting a 98+ degree bottle at your feet when it is close to zero out feels great
When camping in extreme heat, NOT wearing cotton kills… the property of drying slowly and eliminating heat quickly is not universally bad, a cotton t shirt is like an air conditioner when wet and can save your life from heat stroke
I'm old school and heavy. I always carry a stove and a half liter Nalgene to make a hot water bottle. Had saved me in the shoulder seasons for sure. I also sleep my with my fleece jacket on backwards so it's like a blanket.
8:15 I live in the Carolinas and it's insanely humid. In hot weather cotton is amazing because it does cool you down, but yeah don't wear that in cold weather.
OMG! I've made every one of these mistakes at some point, even when I wasn't considered a beginner hiker or backpacker. I used to use a hydration bladder and on one of my snowshoe hikes a few years ago, the water in my drinking tube froze. Whoops! The "Cotten is Rotten" mistake is probably the first big lesson I learned out on trail as a beginner backpacker. I learned really quick that I A - Sweat a lot when I hike and B - Cotton sucks at keeping you warm when you're sweaty and it's cold outside. All it takes is one time and you'll never make that mistake again...hopefully. I'm still guilty of holding my pee way too long at night though. I may never learn from that mistake. Hahahah!
I’ve been told by quite a few guides I know to not drink water or any liquids about and hour before sleeping. No water in bladder means less chance of late night cold piss.
Take it from an old timer the weight of handwarmers is worth it X10. Put a handwarmer in your socks and gloves to warm your extremities. If you are really cold put one under your hat. The heat lasts for hours and will let you get a good nights sleep. They also make larger ones for your neck and shoulders. A space blanket under you sleeping bag will help. Being cold sleeping is just stupid and unnecessary,.
As a woman, I still haven’t mastered peeing in a bottle even with pee devices, but those pee devices will keep you warmer when leaving the tent to relieve yourself without hav8mg to disrobe from the waist down. Just have everything you need close to your sleeping bag so your time in the cold is minimized. Practice in the shower first at home so you don’t dribble in your pants. And PS - don’t sleep in wet clothes unless it’s hot AF.
You're best bet to stop a water filter from freezing, one empty as much water out after use. I use a outdoor research nalgene insulated bottle cover. It keeps my filter from freezing especially in the sleeping bag, and unlike a zip lock bag, this is padded and isn't hard. In case you roll around at night.
Well, agree on going easy on the layers but you can have something windproof but breathable on you. Merino wool is good underneath and take a down jacket or something warmer for the breaks and the camp itself. Cotton? Has worked for me although I have no major preference here. Again, merino wool underneath.
I've heard of people having a designated pee bottle, and using it to pee in at night. I think I also heard some of those people keeping their pee filled bottle in their sleeping bag at night for extra warmth.
Some good tips! I'd never carry it on a thru hike, but I recently did a snowy overnight in the Whites in cold temps. Adding boiling water to a Nalgene bottle added at least 15 degrees to my sleep system.
Sweating: dude, I just did a 12mile day hike, 8500ft-11000ft in fresh snow. Max temp was 35deg. I sweated my as off! I was literally shirtless, in shorts still sweating on my back. Totally buying a osprey pack for winter hikes now.
When water freezes it expands. If whatever the container the water is in does not expand, it will crack. That is why engine cooling systems have antifreeze/coolant in them .
I get sweaty every time I hike and then remember after my jacket is soaked that I was supposed to take it off before that happened. At least I am consistently an idiot.
Great video Kyle. I have one more to add, goes with the cotton problem too. I was hiking with a buddy who was on his maiden overnight hike, we got to camp as it started to rain, we set up my tent and I said put OUR gear in the tent and I will finish with the guy lines and set up a cook shelter with my tarp. I was wearing a heavy COTTON t-shirt, I also looked over to see my backpack wide open in the pouring rain, I'm soaked and now everything in my pack is getting wet. My tip is to always look after yourself first then help the others you're with, you're no help to them if you're the one in trouble.
As for peeing at night, also don't fall for the temptation to say "I can hold it, it's not so bad." It won't get better. Just tear that band aid off! (Metaphorically.) Get up and take care of it.
I am so paranoid of getting too cold and not waking up, you know, like dying. That's why I haven't done any Winter camping. I am considering doing an overnight at the Hancock campground off the Kanc. in Lincoln, NH to try it.
I’ve been cold. I just shivered, didn’t fall asleep at all! Bring 2 of those Mylar blankets with you, one for underneath, one to burrito wrap. They are dirt cheap at Walmart, and really light. I’ve given a lot away over the years.
You will shiver and moan and bug out before you ever get too cold to wake up. Unless you're talking real hypothermia in which case just be sensible and safe and you'll be good. Camping in winter is my fave time to camp.
2 words! Pee. Bottle. For real changed the way I sleep! No more freezing my butt off, cramming feet into frozen boots, and stumbling in the dark. Just be sure to mark the bottle😂
The first night you go out and its going to be cold - I am mostly always either too hot. I spent the entire 1st night either putting clothes on (or mostly) taking clothes off. Night 2, it's all good.
No need to get up to pee if your a male, I used to carry a Gatorade bottle just as a pee bottle, now since I use cnoc bag for my filter I carry a sawyer squeeze bag for a pee bag ( I have good aim), I’ve heard of ladies using a cool whip container or soft wide mouth Nalgene
Nalgene is too heavy. I use a wide-mount Vitamin Water bottle that I picked up on the trail. I can tell it from my other containers 'cuz Vitamin Water tastes about as good as what I'm using the bottle for.
I couldn't get my tent up cause the pole broke the other night and it was minus 8. I ended up crawling under it like a big bug net. My mummy bag kept me warm and I watched the stars all night
You are using chemical energy from the food you eat to keep EVERYTHING inside you warm. Including that urine in your bladder. Granted it probably isn't much of your heat budget but still. The only ones equalizing with ambient temperature are either reptiles or dead.
That tip about peeing makes no sense to me. The urine in your body is already at body temp. Your bladder has no direct contact with surrounding "cold", how could it cool down? So no energy used to "keep your piss warm". I cant imagine a full bladder (maybe 1/8 to 1/4 galon) increasing the surface area of your body to increase heat loss, compared to an empty bladder. I think, you could even make an argument, that the pee in your bladder acts as an increase of your thermal mass and therefore helping you staying warm for longer (surely not noticably). To use a fridge as an analogy; which will keep its core temp for longer if unplugged, a full fridge or an empty one? EDIT: what I disagree with is: "if you dont (get out and pee) its actually going to make you colder because your body is using all that energy to keep your pee warm"
Nooooo you talked about "cotton kills" this is false information! Hiking in cotton is what kills not the cotton itself. Bringing extra cotton sweaters and stuff won't kill you. It's only if the cotton gets wet or damp. I would rather have a 1000 GSM cotton sweater than a 200gsm wool sweater. Just keep it dry. That being said i am a wool lover and you will never catch me in cotton in the winter, but if you are just camping and not hiking then it is just perfectly fine.
Cold rainy weather is great to test your inclement weather gear and techniques close to home with minimal risk. Many people are fair weather hikers/campers who carry rain gear but have never tested actually hiking up and down hills in steady cold rain and then setting up their shelter and cooking in the rain. Doing practice runs in your neighborhood or close by in the crappiest weather will do wonders for getting your gear and processes sorted out so if you do get stuck in bad weather, you’ll not only survive, but you’ll be able to relax and enjoy.
Ok, damn it. The “go piss because your body will get colder keeping your piss warm” is just a load of piss. Let me state some facts: 1. Your body expends energy, in the form of heat, to warm food and drink IF if it cooler than your core temp. 2. Once said food or drink is “warmed up” your body expends no further energy to keep it warm. It’s called equilibrium. The warm piss is a form of stored energy (in the form of heat). Equilibrium is maintained-unless you die. Don’t die. 3. IN FACT (Kyle, listen up) your body loses a significant amount of said stored energy (in the form of heat) when you go PISS. Yes, one’s core temperature will in fact drop slightly when going to urinate. But you’re going to lose a lot more heat by having to expose your groin region to piss (some more than others, Kyle). And before you ask (Kyle), yes-taking a dump in the woods will also cause you to lose heat. Source of info: I graduated medical school in 2008 and trained at Johns Hopkins doing a bunch of stupid shit that I don’t have to do anymore.
Just piss if it makes you feel better. That story of wasting energy is a (completely understandable) misunderstanding of thermodynamics that's been making it's rounds on the interweb. If anything, one's extra juicy filling is just an uncomfortable *reservoir* of heat.
@@KyleHatesHiking If you pee, you actually losing heat. Keeping your pee is the best strategy because that pee inside you is already warm. Your heat loss is roughly proportional to the area of your skin multiplied by the body to air temperature difference. That product didn't change after you peed. The second best way to prevent that loss is to pee in a bottle and put the bottle into your sleeping bag.
@@timbehrens9678 That urine inside you might be warm, but your body is using energy to keep it that way. It would be the same if you had a tub of water in your house that you were going to dump outside. Your furnace is using energy to maintain that water's temperature unnecessarily.
@@donhoverson6348 The heat losses depend only on temperature difference to the ambient air and the insulation quality aka thermal resistance of your sleeping system or walls. Those parameters won't improve if you decide to dump already warm urine or water.
@@timbehrens9678 Unless you are hiking in 98.6 F temperatures your body is constantly losing heat (by breathing if nothing else) spending energy keeping everything inside your skin warm. Including the urine in your bladder and the contents of your intestines. If you get rid of that mass then you will no longer be spending any energy to heat it. That being said given the typical mass of an adult human being and the comparative mass of bladder contents the percentage of your energy budget going to the urine is probably trivial and unlikely to be critical. The best reason to get rid of it is still because you are unlikely to get back to sleep unless you do, not for the energy savings.
There is no really good “piss bottle” for females. There are urinals that you can carry that will work for us ladies but they are big and untrustworthy. I always have to get outside in the night to pee. It’s damn cold.
@@darkroomzen - Moisture from breath condensates inside the sleeping bag and inside the down. If you were already so cold to breathe inside bag, that bag gets even colder with every breath. And it's not going to dry-out for many hours. Wet and cold is deadly.
Super interesting, but next time please make an effort actually talking to all your audience, not just men, it's distracting. Women do exist out in the wild.
About the peeing in the cold. I know it is a bit frowned upon.... But... I use a small 500cc bottle. So I do not have to leave my sleepingbag and loose heat. I even keep it in my sleepingbag, to warm my feet. 😁
Who said it's frowned on? As far as I knew, most backpackers do this with a spare water bottle for that purpose or use their dirty water bottle.
Anyone "frowning upon" where I put my piss when I'm sleeping in my tent, can go eff themselves. And that's whether it's cold or not.
Some people say mom jokes died out in the late 90’s. That’s 1,000% wrong. Always love seeing people keeping it alive.
I’m a bit surprised you didn’t mention a few other tips: keep your sleeping bag clean: always get clean (or as clean as possible) before you get in your sleeping bag and cover as much of your skin as possible, before getting in the sleeping bag. Dirt and body oil will, over time, compromise the warmth of the sleeping bag. I always do a wipe-down before I put on my loose-fitting sleeping layers (which are base layer gloves, lightweight socks, something to cover my head (like a skull cap, beanie or balaclava), long sleeves, and long pants in my sleeping bag. Another tip is put extra clothing in the sleeping bag with you. A puffy layer and other clothing items will eliminate any dead space in your sleeping bag and also provide you with extra insulation (it also makes your puffy layer readily accessible and pre-warmed for when need leave the sleeping bag in the morning).
Another thing is to leave camp early. Right before dawn is typically the coldest part of the night, so if you wake up at 5:00 AM and you’re cold, and need to pee, go ahead and break camp and hit the trail. The brisk walking will keep you warm until the sun is up. Once the sun is out find a sunny spot to take a break on the trail for breakfast.
Something I learned by desperation: one time I had a hole in my boot. It was 0 Fahrenheit. My huskie was shedding (because huskies shed all the time). I took some of it off and stuffed it in my boot, remembering the stories of sheep herders in Scotland (or maybe Ireland).
What I learned is that this huskie fur wicked sweat (I don’t know where it went tbh). I sweated but the fur always felt dry. My boot was like brand new Ugg boots but free! Since my other boot was in bad shape, I did the same to it too. Yeah, I got dome dog fur on my socks but so what! I was absolutely cozy!
In really colde weather, you need two sleeping pads, and at least one of them has to be foam, not inflatable. You don't want a pinhole to be a survival situation. If you use a foam pad with an inflatable (I use a Z-Rest with a Prolite), the foam goes on top - I won't bore you with the physics, but it works.
You'll be warmer spreading your jacket on top of the sleeping bag rather than wearing it in the bag. It crushes the down less. The part of the jacket that's under you will be worthless, down has no insulating value when you're lying on it.
Wear your beanie to bed.
If it's a multiday trip, air out your sleeping bag every chance you get. (Your hiking style and mine are a little different, so I always have at least a couple of hours over the course of the day to air it out.) It WILL accumulate condensation, and airing it helps it dry at least a little bit. (I'm pretty bad with this, I tend to roll over onto my stomach in the night and have my breath condense in the bag hood.)
I know my system. If I bank snow against the upwind side of my tent, use a double pad with my Marmot 0°F bag, wear fleece jacket and pants to bed (along with wool socks, a beanie, and gloves) spread my jacket on top of the bag, and put my pack under my feet, I'm good to about -10 °F. If the forecast is subzero I'm [probably not going, but sometimes the weather is worse than forecast.
Yes, a whiz bottle is a good thing to have in the winter.
Kevin coming in with the facts!
Every time Kyle uploads a video without Flossy, a Trail Angel loses its wings.
😂 I miss him!
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Kyle I love your vids man - I’m 41 with a family and kids and the crazy busy career that takes up 60hrs of my time each and every week - I’ve got another decade of raising these kids at minimum before I’m able to walk the AT and get back to the outdoors again - your vids are such a great breath of fresh air and they help me live vicariously through you and your info and experiences - by the time I’m ready to hike the AT, I’ll be filled with your plethora of knowledge!
Thank you again!!
Jason this was such a nice comment! Good on you for doing everything you can for your kids, the mountains will always be there!
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Thanks for the kind response!
There will always be time later on to enjoy countless adventures of the outdoors!
Someday my friend! Some day!! 🙌
Dude, as someone that grew up with a dad that worked nonstop to become very wealthy, I can say that your kids would rather have time with you than the things your job affords them. Now in my 40’s, I don’t have much of a relationship with my dad. We just never really knew each other. Even though he and my mom are still married, I pretty much grew up with a single mom. As a kid, I wished we were poorer, because my poorer friends’ dads did a lot with us. I have a six year old son. We live in a tiny house which doesn’t take much money to keep up with. And we have one of the best father/son relationships I’ve ever come across. I’m not trying to talk shit on you. At all. I just want to share the results of my experiences with my dad and son.
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I’m too involved with the family for all that to happen - in too deep and way too involved - the kids are my life and I know them so well and they all know me and we make memories all the time - I literally have priorities for 3 things - family, work, exercise/running
I appreciate the thoughts though - working a lot can be concerning for sure - however my son and my two step kids and their mother are my world - it ain’t ever gonna be any different
I hope you get to it. For right now, cherish every moment with your kids - it’s as small as taking them to a park and grilling pit. Face time is cherished time. Work work them on tiny projects - believe me, you will get all that back in future love. Trust me.
Testing your sleep system will make a huge difference. We slept out back last fall in the low 30's, with 15° BA bags and while we were warm enough, I upgraded my sleep pad (from uberlite R2 to an R4 pad) the next day. So glad I checked my gear first. 🐻🌲
I carry a piss bottle, sounds gross, but a (for a guy) a wide mouth bottle with a good lid (28-32 oz) works great, plus putting a 98+ degree bottle at your feet when it is close to zero out feels great
When camping in extreme heat, NOT wearing cotton kills… the property of drying slowly and eliminating heat quickly is not universally bad, a cotton t shirt is like an air conditioner when wet and can save your life from heat stroke
I'm old school and heavy. I always carry a stove and a half liter Nalgene to make a hot water bottle. Had saved me in the shoulder seasons for sure. I also sleep my with my fleece jacket on backwards so it's like a blanket.
When winter hiking , I find a Gore Tex shell invaluable, especially hiking above tree line . Need something to break that wind.
Smart! The wind kills me everytime! Like frozen knives plunging into me.
In regards to frozen filters, You can also boil water if you had to.
8:15
I live in the Carolinas and it's insanely humid. In hot weather cotton is amazing because it does cool you down, but yeah don't wear that in cold weather.
OMG! I've made every one of these mistakes at some point, even when I wasn't considered a beginner hiker or backpacker. I used to use a hydration bladder and on one of my snowshoe hikes a few years ago, the water in my drinking tube froze. Whoops! The "Cotten is Rotten" mistake is probably the first big lesson I learned out on trail as a beginner backpacker. I learned really quick that I A - Sweat a lot when I hike and B - Cotton sucks at keeping you warm when you're sweaty and it's cold outside. All it takes is one time and you'll never make that mistake again...hopefully. I'm still guilty of holding my pee way too long at night though. I may never learn from that mistake. Hahahah!
The pee one is tough haha
You will learn as you get older lol ,treat your bladder kind.
@@maxinemcclurd1288 Very true!
I’ve been told by quite a few guides I know to not drink water or any liquids about and hour before sleeping. No water in bladder means less chance of late night cold piss.
Take it from an old timer the weight of handwarmers is worth it X10. Put a handwarmer in your socks and gloves to warm your extremities. If you are really cold put one under your hat. The heat lasts for hours and will let you get a good nights sleep. They also make larger ones for your neck and shoulders. A space blanket under you sleeping bag will help. Being cold sleeping is just stupid and unnecessary,.
As a woman, I still haven’t mastered peeing in a bottle even with pee devices, but those pee devices will keep you warmer when leaving the tent to relieve yourself without hav8mg to disrobe from the waist down. Just have everything you need close to your sleeping bag so your time in the cold is minimized. Practice in the shower first at home so you don’t dribble in your pants.
And PS - don’t sleep in wet clothes unless it’s hot AF.
You're best bet to stop a water filter from freezing, one empty as much water out after use.
I use a outdoor research nalgene insulated bottle cover. It keeps my filter from freezing especially in the sleeping bag, and unlike a zip lock bag, this is padded and isn't hard. In case you roll around at night.
Well, agree on going easy on the layers but you can have something windproof but breathable on you. Merino wool is good underneath and take a down jacket or something warmer for the breaks and the camp itself. Cotton? Has worked for me although I have no major preference here. Again, merino wool underneath.
Ha Ha like some of us can just "hold" our pee and ignore natures call LMAO ! I love these young hikers !
oh to be young again
I've heard of people having a designated pee bottle, and using it to pee in at night. I think I also heard some of those people keeping their pee filled bottle in their sleeping bag at night for extra warmth.
lmao thats one way to do it
I’m so glad I don’t have nuts that could potentially freeze off
Some good tips! I'd never carry it on a thru hike, but I recently did a snowy overnight in the Whites in cold temps. Adding boiling water to a Nalgene bottle added at least 15 degrees to my sleep system.
So happy I came across this channel, leaving for a thru hike in a month.
Sweating: dude, I just did a 12mile day hike, 8500ft-11000ft in fresh snow. Max temp was 35deg.
I sweated my as off! I was literally shirtless, in shorts still sweating on my back.
Totally buying a osprey pack for winter hikes now.
When water freezes it expands. If whatever the container the water is in does not expand, it will crack. That is why engine cooling systems have antifreeze/coolant in them .
I get sweaty every time I hike and then remember after my jacket is soaked that I was supposed to take it off before that happened. At least I am consistently an idiot.
it happens haha
Kyle, thanks for the subtle shout out! I feel honored 🤣🤘
Great video Kyle. I have one more to add, goes with the cotton problem too. I was hiking with a buddy who was on his maiden overnight hike, we got to camp as it started to rain, we set up my tent and I said put OUR gear in the tent and I will finish with the guy lines and set up a cook shelter with my tarp. I was wearing a heavy COTTON t-shirt, I also looked over to see my backpack wide open in the pouring rain, I'm soaked and now everything in my pack is getting wet.
My tip is to always look after yourself first then help the others you're with, you're no help to them if you're the one in trouble.
so true! put your mask on before assisting others
Always a good idea to bring a few Aquatabs just in case your filter gets compromised
Subbed for the Mom jokes 😂
The sweat thing is a biggy. My one is protect your hands, feet and head the rest can almost be nudie and you will be warmer.
true!
Facts 💯
#1 was the 1st mistake I made a few years ago in RMNP 🤦🏻♀️
Great advice 👍
hope you learned from it!
Always take an old Nalgene bottle to piss in at night, saves you getting out your tent.
Empty your water filter before you go to sleep.
It is a good idea to empty the filter but with many of them it's impossible to get it fully empty. Some would say the same about their bladder
@@KyleHatesHiking 😂 Definitely on the bladder.
I have a Sawyer Squeeze and I shake it to fuck to get every last drop out… too many innuendos.
Where do you store your wet water filter during the day so that it doesn't freeze? Would it freez in a pants pocket?
As for peeing at night, also don't fall for the temptation to say "I can hold it, it's not so bad." It won't get better. Just tear that band aid off! (Metaphorically.) Get up and take care of it.
exactly!
I am so paranoid of getting too cold and not waking up, you know, like dying. That's why I haven't done any Winter camping. I am considering doing an overnight at the Hancock campground off the Kanc. in Lincoln, NH to try it.
that's a great idea! worst case if your gear isn't working you can always hop in the car and warm up.
I’ve been cold. I just shivered, didn’t fall asleep at all! Bring 2 of those Mylar blankets with you, one for underneath, one to burrito wrap. They are dirt cheap at Walmart, and really light. I’ve given a lot away over the years.
@@KyleHatesHiking have you ever put hot water in a Nalgene and put it in your sleeping bag? I have heard people do that to keep warm as well.
You will shiver and moan and bug out before you ever get too cold to wake up. Unless you're talking real hypothermia in which case just be sensible and safe and you'll be good. Camping in winter is my fave time to camp.
It’s too warm where I live to test my gear outdoors. Is the cold beer room at the gas station a good alternative?
yes, i would highly recommend this
Becker = The Goat!
2 words! Pee. Bottle.
For real changed the way I sleep!
No more freezing my butt off, cramming feet into frozen boots, and stumbling in the dark.
Just be sure to mark the bottle😂
and don't miss 😂
@@KyleHatesHiking ya and make sure it's a big bottle! Cutting off mid stream sucks!
No doubt. I use a pee bottle at home, in my car, at work. Best decision I ever made.
@@Worleywoods Not making a punny here, but use an empty peanut jar.
lol mean ice expands in the filter making more filter holes lolz
Do you recommend using a bidet during winter conditions? And if so how much water do you think you would need for explosive diarrhea?
Lmao!
😂😂
Just a quick question, your puff jacket. I like it, what brand is it ?
how to not get sweaty is a video I need!
The first night you go out and its going to be cold - I am mostly always either too hot. I spent the entire 1st night either putting clothes on (or mostly) taking clothes off. Night 2, it's all good.
The best advice for camping in the cold is to not camp when it’s cold
Western Mountaineering Sleeping bags.
No need to get up to pee if your a male, I used to carry a Gatorade bottle just as a pee bottle, now since I use cnoc bag for my filter I carry a sawyer squeeze bag for a pee bag ( I have good aim), I’ve heard of ladies using a cool whip container or soft wide mouth Nalgene
the classic cool whip piss container
Thanks for thinking of the ladies!
PEE bottle is the way to go man! Take an old nalgene mark it ( very important!) and GO!
Nalgene is too heavy. I use a wide-mount Vitamin Water bottle that I picked up on the trail. I can tell it from my other containers 'cuz Vitamin Water tastes about as good as what I'm using the bottle for.
I couldn't get my tent up cause the pole broke the other night and it was minus 8. I ended up crawling under it like a big bug net. My mummy bag kept me warm and I watched the stars all night
Chestnut roasting on an open fire🔥
Think about ice. When water freezes, water expands. So that's why it breaks.
Since when does your body keeping your urine warm become an active process?
You are using chemical energy from the food you eat to keep EVERYTHING inside you warm. Including that urine in your bladder. Granted it probably isn't much of your heat budget but still. The only ones equalizing with ambient temperature are either reptiles or dead.
I subscribed just for the 'Your Mom' joke. LMAO!
Thanks for the tips, I'm made some of them too.
If it's below freezing ill usually pee in my inflatable pillow to keep my neck warm
now that is ingenious
Luckily my mistress doesn’t even allow me to sleep in the bed…
No worry, yo mama kept me warm when you were hiking 😂🍺✌️
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That tip about peeing makes no sense to me.
The urine in your body is already at body temp.
Your bladder has no direct contact with surrounding "cold", how could it cool down? So no energy used to "keep your piss warm".
I cant imagine a full bladder (maybe 1/8 to 1/4 galon) increasing the surface area of your body to increase heat loss, compared to an empty bladder.
I think, you could even make an argument, that the pee in your bladder acts as an increase of your thermal mass and therefore helping you staying warm for longer (surely not noticably).
To use a fridge as an analogy; which will keep its core temp for longer if unplugged, a full fridge or an empty one?
EDIT: what I disagree with is: "if you dont (get out and pee) its actually going to make you colder because your body is using all that energy to keep your pee warm"
I don't know about your tips, but your mom jokes are great!
I'll take it! but the tips are solid
@@KyleHatesHiking yeah, they are!
I’m forever sleeping with Sawyer …he keeps me moist happy on cold hikes and NEVER gets too cold toget the job done 💦
Water expands when it freezes
How does one know something anecdotally?
Jeremiah Stringer already uploaded this video 77,777 times. Hahaha
Nooooo you talked about "cotton kills" this is false information! Hiking in cotton is what kills not the cotton itself. Bringing extra cotton sweaters and stuff won't kill you. It's only if the cotton gets wet or damp. I would rather have a 1000 GSM cotton sweater than a 200gsm wool sweater. Just keep it dry. That being said i am a wool lover and you will never catch me in cotton in the winter, but if you are just camping and not hiking then it is just perfectly fine.
Bring a small little plastic bottle to pee in at night so you don't have to get out in the cold
Ok
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I always use iodine for my water purification
I always keep a designated pee bottle to piss in at night, so I don't have to get completely out of my bag.
It's cold but it's been raining.. kinda depressing 😕 bring on the snow.. good tips thou.
Cold rainy weather is great to test your inclement weather gear and techniques close to home with minimal risk. Many people are fair weather hikers/campers who carry rain gear but have never tested actually hiking up and down hills in steady cold rain and then setting up their shelter and cooking in the rain. Doing practice runs in your neighborhood or close by in the crappiest weather will do wonders for getting your gear and processes sorted out so if you do get stuck in bad weather, you’ll not only survive, but you’ll be able to relax and enjoy.
“Anytime you pee on yourself, it’s always warm.” - words of wisdom by Kyle
frame them
Ok, damn it. The “go piss because your body will get colder keeping your piss warm” is just a load of piss.
Let me state some facts:
1. Your body expends energy, in the form of heat, to warm food and drink IF if it cooler than your core temp.
2. Once said food or drink is “warmed up” your body expends no further energy to keep it warm. It’s called equilibrium. The warm piss is a form of stored energy (in the form of heat). Equilibrium is maintained-unless you die. Don’t die.
3. IN FACT (Kyle, listen up) your body loses a significant amount of said stored energy (in the form of heat) when you go PISS. Yes, one’s core temperature will in fact drop slightly when going to urinate. But you’re going to lose a lot more heat by having to expose your groin region to piss (some more than others, Kyle).
And before you ask (Kyle), yes-taking a dump in the woods will also cause you to lose heat.
Source of info: I graduated medical school in 2008 and trained at Johns Hopkins doing a bunch of stupid shit that I don’t have to do anymore.
You like you have measles in this thumbnail 😂
Thx for making me laugh with the mom jokes……
glad you enjoyed it!
Its not ridiculous, I tested my new tent and sleeping bag in my backyard.
The thumbnail looks like "How to Quit Meth by Sleeping in the Woods"
I wish tent makers would make pee holes in tents.
Came for the UA-cam algorithm clickbait. Stayed for the mom jokes.
😂😂
I always carry a pee bottle. It’s not mine I just like it.
😂 funniest comment so far
Just piss if it makes you feel better. That story of wasting energy is a (completely understandable) misunderstanding of thermodynamics that's been making it's rounds on the interweb. If anything, one's extra juicy filling is just an uncomfortable *reservoir* of heat.
hmm interesting to hear this perspective
@@KyleHatesHiking If you pee, you actually losing heat. Keeping your pee is the best strategy because that pee inside you is already warm. Your heat loss is roughly proportional to the area of your skin multiplied by the body to air temperature difference. That product didn't change after you peed. The second best way to prevent that loss is to pee in a bottle and put the bottle into your sleeping bag.
@@timbehrens9678 That urine inside you might be warm, but your body is using energy to keep it that way. It would be the same if you had a tub of water in your house that you were going to dump outside. Your furnace is using energy to maintain that water's temperature unnecessarily.
@@donhoverson6348 The heat losses depend only on temperature difference to the ambient air and the insulation quality aka thermal resistance of your sleeping system or walls. Those parameters won't improve if you decide to dump already warm urine or water.
@@timbehrens9678 Unless you are hiking in 98.6 F temperatures your body is constantly losing heat (by breathing if nothing else) spending energy keeping everything inside your skin warm. Including the urine in your bladder and the contents of your intestines. If you get rid of that mass then you will no longer be spending any energy to heat it. That being said given the typical mass of an adult human being and the comparative mass of bladder contents the percentage of your energy budget going to the urine is probably trivial and unlikely to be critical. The best reason to get rid of it is still because you are unlikely to get back to sleep unless you do, not for the energy savings.
Just here for the ‘Your Mom’ jokes.
don't encourage me
I sweat like a fat southern politician.
😂
How do comments about my mom always end up in your videos?????
I can't help it
There is no really good “piss bottle” for females. There are urinals that you can carry that will work for us ladies but they are big and untrustworthy. I always have to get outside in the night to pee. It’s damn cold.
His videos are better at 1.5x speed
lmao I've never tried this
you look so cold in the thumbnail I had to click on the video
thumbnails are my favorite part about youtube lmao
@@KyleHatesHiking you rock at em
Even worse, the sleeping bag rating is for men. Smaller women will freeze!
Don't lie bro, we all know you don't own a Speedo for hiking. We all know you prefer a plug tear drop g string.
i wonder, how many of us are repeat offenders when it comes to making mistakes ?
I certainly am!
This is not the Kyle we know!🙂
Last video recommended breathing into your sleeping-bag at night. Guess that horrible, deadly advice still stands?
Why’s it deadly? Mold concerns?
@@darkroomzen - Moisture from breath condensates inside the sleeping bag and inside the down. If you were already so cold to breathe inside bag, that bag gets even colder with every breath. And it's not going to dry-out for many hours. Wet and cold is deadly.
Super interesting, but next time please make an effort actually talking to all your audience, not just men, it's distracting. Women do exist out in the wild.
Kyle, your Mom is in the comments again.
@@ashmaybe9634 I hope he takes it more serious than you. 😉
That thumbnail is so bad I’m unsubbing.
that thumbnail is my best one yet
@@KyleHatesHiking you’ve become what you hate: hiking
Whenever I’m backpacking in the cold winter months I always and I mean ALWAYS piss all over my down back right before bed! Nice and warm!
that's what im talking about
You should probably save some in case you get thirsty.
@@persistentpedestrianalien8641 like bear grylls says!
Where are you on peeing pants? Is the short term warmth worth it?
stay in your tent pee in a bottle and if you are freezing you have a pee bottle foot warmer