Dr. Brown broke it down "Barney Style"...fascinate, stimulate, complicated, suffocate....that is exactly what I went through when I took that crooked path, BUT JESUS in His Mercy, has never left me or forsaken me and He is loving me back into His Grace.
@achristianconvertedtochris5862 , it wasn't about work..because eating Kosher, not working on Saturday and going to Feast gatherings is not hard, but it focusing on those thing, I felt I was justified y doing them and meanwhile Pride and other sins crept in.
“And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?” (Luke 14:27-28, KJV)
Jesus Christ has warned us to consider the cost. The love that we have for God is very precious. It is nice to see good days and enjoy the joy of a Lord. But we also need to remember that this comes with a cost. Salvation is a gift from God. It is a combination of works and Faith together. Because we have Faith in God. Our works follow after our Faith proving our Faith. People do not get mad and angry at you because you are a Christian. People do not get angry and mad at you because you are a good person. What they get angry and mad about is when they see your works because you are a Christian. Faith without works is dead.
Wow. Blown away. This is interview was so good. I didn’t know much about Dr. Brown. So grateful for the work he’s doing. Loved the insight. What an awesome background too.
I've been following Dr. Brown's Ministry for nearly 30 years now, and he's had a great impact on my Christian walk. So cool to see you have him on your channel! 😃
DR BROWN ❤❤ an expert in the jewish hebrew language i have seen his channel how he has left great rabbis speechless very strong opponents including tovia who runs from him for 30 years after two debates dr brown is a warrior of GOD who came to discover the messiah ❤❤ God bless you both of you
Correct Dr Brown, wanting to keep torah (the word of God) is for love and never outta obligation. Its just for love. If u love me keep my commanments. Great interview.
I see keeping the commandments as a command to keep the moral laws to a high standard, but I'm a uncircumcised gentile and Jesus saved and I rely on the Jewish apostle sent to the gentiles named Paul , I dont even know any Jewish people except JESUS and I see Him in His glorified body as the apostle John described
@@adamguy33 being a gentile means you are not in covenant with the most high.. in Yeshua u are no longer a gentile u are a citizin of the family of Yahweh, the head of the body Israel. There in only one body not 2 u are grafted in to one family israel.
@@yeshuaeselcaminoayhwh1861 anyway in the new heaven and earth there wont be no Israell just like there was no Israel in the garden of Eden and no law and no Torah , the old crap will pass away and all things made new. No tears no pain no death and no dam Torah no need for it then. So you torah law worshipers can only worship the Torah for so long because it will pass away someday
Very informative interview. I had the privilege of meeting Dr Brown at the Christian radio station that I used to worked at 12 years ago. He was very nice and brought in ice cream for the staff from his home state of North Carolina.
I am so grateful for Dr Brown! My heart has received so much fresh air since discovering his content. As a gentile believer, I have loved learning more about my biblical roots, but started to feel confused with some of the things I was seeing with friends dabbling in the Hebrew roots stuff. Listening to Dr Brown and now your channel has helped me unmuddie the water and also confirm my convictions.
Awesome teaching, Solberg and Brown. I feel that in our humanity, our flesh we try so hard and make many errors, but if we walk whole heartily in the Spirit which we have in Christ we will succeed as Paul and many before us. With God, nothing is impossible. He is there with us always and forever. God is awesome. How grateful I am that He chose me...and I accepted Him...and now follow Him regardless of the cost in this life it will all pass. I look to our Heavenly Father Kingdom, which is where my destiny is and will be for all of eternity. Sometimes, I feel humanity makes God Holy Word harder than it needs to be.. the book of John is my favorite book... even though Jesus came to His Chosen People first, it also applies to all mankind. Love your broadcast. Peace to all......
Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate. My best friend recently converted to Catholicism. This perfectly describes his conversion too. We're still close friends, and I'm glad it was Catholicism rather than some of the other things he was considering. It seems to be the universal trap of spiritualism. "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about Me," (John 5:39). It is not kosher or hail Marys that bring us closer to God, it is Jesus/Yeshua that is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5).
Right… but on numerous occasions in the Old Testament, God required an individual of high moral character to vouch on behalf of the Israelites. What this conveys, to me at least, is that sometimes you get what you need when a righteous person serves as a witness to you. You should (and I do) recite your prayers in the name of Jesus, directed to the father, but I don’t think it’s wrong to ask for some support from Mother Mary. I refuse to believe that God would penalize you for invoking his mother’s support. If anything, I strongly believe that it can help.
It's so true, tho I find RC ism to be as empty as any other faith that eschews Jesus for other emphases. Keep praying for your best friend, Loving him and challenging those aberrant wedges within that pry spiritualism of any kind from Jesus Christ. I hadn't reached the Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate at first comment. Wow. Powerful application. I appreciate your comment.
Awesome video. I'm dealing with a lot of these issues. I'm a gentile believer in a church with many Jewish believers. So much going on. It would be easy to leave, but a balance would be taken away.
The spirit that is behind this post confesses "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh". Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. Now we, brethren (the church) as Isaac was, are the child of promise. We are grafted into the blessing of Abraham, at a time, before Jacob was born. The church is a spiritual type of Isaac, not Israel. Isaac was never under the law of Moses or the ten commandments. I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
It’s all about the resurrection. I have listened to many orthodox rabbis talk about Jesus, and one thing they avoid (or miss out) is talk on the resurrection. If Jesus did indeed resurrect, then all their opposition comes to naught. The apostle Paul’s emphasis was always the resurrection, and it should be ours too.
I so love and admire Dr Brown! I’ve been learning from him for decades! Thanks RL!! I just found and subscribed to your channel. Now may the God of peace who by the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep, our Lord Jesus, equip you with every good thing to do his will, working in us what is pleasing before him through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever. Amen. Hebrews 13:20-21
Professor Solberg I saw your debate with Rabbi Singer. You did very well, and presented your points with respect and grace. It's interesting to learn that Dr. Brown helped with your preparation. I'm happy you are friends, and brothers in Christ. Dr. Brown, I've watched several of your Answering The Rabbis series. I'm heartened to hear that you are preparing a retort to the many vehement statements Rabbi Tovia Singer launches at the Christian faithful on a near daily basis. Still, for some reason I like him. I think it's because he seems very sincere in his love of G-d, and his knowledge is prodigious. I pray for the Lord to bless him with the full truth of G-d's word so he can see the Lord Jesus in it as G-d intends. Perhaps one day... Bless you both, and thank you for what you do for the kingdom. ✝
Thank you! And you know what? I like Rabbi Singer, too. He's kind and funny and highly intelligent. I still pray for him. How amazing would he be as a modern-day Paul, a brilliant and zealous enemy of the cross converted to Christ! Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Yes, I've related him to Paul as well for the same reasons. Paradoxically, he views Paul as the worst offender of the New Testament figures! Perhaps a little spiritual blindness, and when the Lord opens his eyes he will be able to see the Word as it is. I still pray for him too.
Even with the help of Mike Brown Prof Solsberg lost this debate terribly. I wonder if Rabbi Singer would have gone forth with this debate if he known you were conspiring with Dr Brown - seeing that Brown edited the debate he had with the Rabbi to make himself look good. Anyways, I'm a neutralist, and I'm still not convinced Christianity's arguments stand the test of scrutiny when measured against the claims of the Tanakh/Torah and the Jews.
Wow, what a great interview. Both beautiful Christian gentlemen sharing this subject in such a respectful (to scripture) manner. Praise God and I thank you both.
No Jew or Gentile are obligated to keep Torah. All of us get to choose to. It's that simple and since my heart is circumcised in Jesus, I want to follow Torah. Not for Salvation but because the law of God is perfect and converts the soul. That simple 😊
@@jonathani1your wrong. Totally. The covenant was for Israel and people chosen to be called Israel by GODS touch not bloodline. Israel is a covenant people.
@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 Yes, but they are not obligated. No one is forcing them, nor I. I do it because I love it. It's not an obligation. I am jewish, but I believe that anyone who wants to walk in covenant (not seek salvation) should obey the Torah. Just like the mixed crowd that came out of Egypt with the Hebrews. God called them all "children of Israel." Paul clearly says that in Christ we are all sons of Abraham. I don't know what's so complicated...it's almost like "this is for us mentality not for you." Christo tore down that wall. Why would He only want to give it to one person... wouldn't He love that all obey. Isn't that what the 1000 reign is about obeying Torah and having Shalom for all? It's not complicated. Some theologians complicate it due to money, fame and pride, or just blindness.
@@isacnoel4326 we are 100% obligated as Christians to keep the Torah because it is Christ who binds us to the Torah. Otherwise we may be in jeopardy of hearing on that day depart from me you who practice lawlessness. What is happening here is the false movement of Zionism and and people have taught falsely concerning replacement theology as to what it means, and what does it mean, Jesus, is the fruit of Israel, ancient Israel that is, and he is now the high priest and king, and absolutely the object of all of our worship, and he has replaced all, and he is all, so once we have become in covenant with YESHUA we are now the children of God and we are the house of Israel. I love Israel, and I love all peoples, but there seems to be a great deception in this hour that Jews are going to heaven separate from Jesus as they have an active living covenant already without the new covenant and this is entirely false. Only those who know his voice are children of the living God and only those that are born again are legally considered the house of Israel.
YES YES YES... YOU SAID IT! The way the Hebrew Roots movement inappropriately assumes or subsumes Jewish ethnicity... is nothing more than "TRANS-ETHNICISM" and no different than "transgenderism"... God will not be mocked and doesn't make mistakes!!!! Thank you...
Do you think that Jewish proselytes in the days of the apostles were “trans ethnicities”? Obviously not. They merely wanted to be numbered with God’s people.
That's actually incorrect because we don't assume Jewish ethnicity. We are of our own ethnicity, grafted into the church of Israel. Our physical ethnicity doesn't change sir.
God married two sisters. The daughter of isreal. God married another but he has waited for isreal to return And jews singing to christ is a joy ish aoccasion
@@JeffSmith-it4tm In all due respect you don't believe in the Trinue nature of God and reject Jesus are God. You are the last person to lecture anyone on what is false teaching.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm That is Trithesism which is heretical. There is no 3 separate Gods. " If you don’t believe in the Trinity, then you don’t understand who God is. You may say the word “God” but you don’t understand His nature. Second, you couldn’t possibly understand who Christ is-that He is God in human flesh. The Incarnation of Christ is an essential component of the biblical gospel, as John 1:1-14 and many other biblical passages make clear. To deny the Trinity is to deny the Incarnation. And to deny the Incarnation is to wrongly understand the true gospel. What you subscribe to is Arianism which is heretical.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm By the way. The concept of the Trinity didn't originate from the Roman Catholic church. You can find the Trinity in the Old Testament. As a matter of fact Jesus declares himself as God through out the new Testament which is easy to miss if you don't understand 1st century Jewish culture.
Another great interview with another Jew for Jesus! May I suggest you try to interview someone named Melissa Hume with the same channel name. She was involved in this movement for many many years and now has her eyes opened. She does short but powerful videos on here to help others see the truth. God bless you Rob!
(1Co 7:18 TLV) Was anyone called when he already had been circumcised (Jewish)? Let him not make himself uncircumcised (to hide his Jewishness). Has anyone been called while uncircumcised (Non-Jewish)? Let him not allow himself to be circumcised (in order to be accepted by your Jewish brothers, or to think he is more saved than he was before) Parenthesis are my comment. (1Co 7:19 TLV) Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing-but keeping God’s commandments matters To keep it simple #1. If you are Jewish, you do not stop being Jewish because now you have faith in Messiah Yeshua, you do not stop being Jewish or have to hide who you are by becoming uncircumcised. Many in the Churches at times would tell a Jewish believer that they were no longer Jewish, because now they are Christians. A Jewish person will always be Jewish. #2. Has anyone been called while uncircumcised, which would be the Non-Jewish believers, they did not have to become circumcised to be accepted into the covenant, they are already accepted in Messiah Yeshua, and Jewish believers should treat them as equals in Messiah. There are no 2nd class citizens in YHVH ELOHIMS Kingdom.
The next verse 19, is Shaul's point, what is important is not circumcision or uncircumcision, BUT God's Commandments/Torah matters. Circumcision is not prohibited, as long as you are doing it for the right reasons.
The Feast of the Lord were shadow pictures pointing to Messiah, The Messiah Yeshua is the substance. Once the substance has come to us i.e. the revelation of Yeshua Messiah, we no longer need to observe Messiah in the shadows.
here is the elephant in the room. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
I'm not quite following you, Jamie. Neither Dr. Brown nor I suggest that keeping the commandments of God is no longer required. I teach and believe that obedience is God’s “love language.” Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I'm sure you would agree that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or for certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I'm sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT teaches that the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRootsso why does the Messiah have a sin sacrifice for the FUTURE temple? Now non-Jews aren't required to keep the 613 Mitzvot but Isaiah 56 shows if they do out of a pure heart they'll be greater then sons or daughters. Also, JC isn't HaShem see John 8:40, Galatians 4:4, Hoses 11:9, Numbers 23:19, and Isaiah 45:5. Furthermore if we were to actually look at Paul's writings we would need more information to know what he was dealing with and to whom he was actually speaking otherwise he's a other Roman puppet just like the High Priest was along with the Sadducee's. Paul was either teaching the Noahide covenant or making stuff to try to blend Hellenized Jewish culture with Roman culture something Jesus would've seen as abhorrent if we are reading John 1:24-31 in context seeing Jesus himself was a Pharisee of the house of Hillel and taught the exact same things as Hillel did except for marriage in which he went with the teaching of Shammai instead. The religion you keep promoting was most likely never taught by the Nazarene and is pagan in origin and practice as he would've been a Pharisee and well versed in Mishnah.
@@TheBiblicalRoots that which held us captive was his rejection of us. The world having no temple, no shekinah glory, having no life giving Torah by true disciples, we were captive by not having his kingdom. Now that we have all of these in Christ he binds all the law upon us and it’s intended requirements. Yes we know that when we sin we bring for the sacrifice and Christ is that sacrifice but the law teaches it perfectly. Tons of other things that we must do that are easily agreeable by most.
@@Thunder_dome_aaron YESHUA said. My kingdom is not of this world. He was the king of the Jews but not their earthly kingdom which had lost its savor. YESHUA was the son of man who was the veil of the living YHVH. He was greater than shammai and Hillel and was never taught by either of them in any of these schools but he carried and was the actual source himself of all life. We are bound to the law by Christs orders and we must fulfill them just as our teacher says to by his example.
@@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 that's paganism and is a mirror image of Dionysus with some Horus and Odysseus tied in. All I ask is you research what I just said out. Isaiah 45:4 and Galatians 4:4 are pretty evident Yeshua couldn't be the source of life. Now if we went to John and took John 1:1 from a Kabbalistic perspective then you'd find the WORD of HaShem or divine utterance or plan is the source of life and Yeshua of Nazareth was just a mamzer trying to be Messiah even though he never met the qualifications.
Doesn’t say he will die a criminals death and live on. Doesn’t say he will be rejected and then people would come to him. Jesus was liked. There were so many people there for his teaching that he had to get on a boat to get space for him and people.
The Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate, is exactly what I’ve seen in all those I know who practice it. If you do not have an intimate relationship with Jesus, it could be dangerously easy to get enticed by it. I’ve been to Hebrew Roots feasts celebrations and I can see the appeal and the draw of it. It’s fun, people are kind for the most until they discover you disagree with them, there’s messianic music, dancing, food and community. it’s a party..who doesn’t love a party. But like Dr. Brown was saying (in a nut shell) without the worship and devotion to Jesus alone as the focal point; they get lost in fascination with the Jewish traditions, then are stimulated in that it ties their emotions into it; and like I’ve experienced with in Laws, they complicate family relationships because of differences in religious ordinances and get suffocated and carried away by exalting the Jewishness of it all above Jesus. They really seem to have come to look at Jesus as if He’s holding the Law with both hands above His head, it shining in glory with him exclaiming ‘I kept it perfectly and this is what you must do to please me and the Father’ although they express they keep it “to the best of their ability” and what they lack they say is where grace comes in. It seems as if what Christian’s have been accused of by them “abusing grace” or “grace as a license to sin” is the very thing they are unknowingly doing. The pride of being favored because of their devotion to practice Jewish traditions/keep the Law has blinded them to the fact that they are fallen short and have kept nothing. I know this may not speak to all those in Torahism, but it does for the majority of those I know.
"They look at Jesus as if He’s holding the Law with both hands above His head, it shining in glory with Him exclaiming ‘I kept it perfectly and this is what you must do to please me and the Father’" Well said, AKB! Sadly, I see this sort of posture far too often among Torahists. They believe Jesus points us to the Torah when Scripture teaches just the opposite. Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I’ve often said in discussions with them, (debates rather, it always turns into a debate) that “the Torah is good and points us to Jesus” and they agree to a small extent and then affirm with their own words that Yeshua points us “back” to the Torah, “He kept it so that He could show us how to keep it.” I try to stick specifically to the scriptures in these discussions so that they become aware that I’m not adding my own thoughts or opinions to it. Scripture at face value doesn’t support their views, so as I read aloud from Galatians, Romans, Hebrews and various others of the New Testament; I’ve been told “it’s not what it means” (a tactic of 119 ministries) and I say “well thats what it says” 🥴 It’s all circles and always ends up with questions like “well, what is righteousness?” “So it’s ok to murder?” On and on, even if I show them the text. It’s exhausting, and goes on for hours. Its like I’m talking to someone who’s had way too many, and I don’t realize it until they make me feel like I have too. Lol “But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:22-28 NASB1995 Their house of cards falls with even just this small passage above, but they can’t see it because the lens they’re looking through is fogged with with the smoke of Mt. Sinai.
@@akb9107 good point, I feel like the spirit of God opens up my eyes to see and understand these simple truths. I don't get how people dont see this and say things like got Torah got truth. I say got JESUS got truth. Are they just not saved and cant see because they are blinded by the evil one, i just dont get it. One thing that gets to me is they still pick and choose what laws are more important then others and none of the torahism crowd is following the law like Israel was required to in ancient days. They just say they do their best and JESUS fills in the rest, yet they look down on people like me that dont think worshiping on any particular day is important or how one does not need to follow all dietary laws etc. Well I am doing my best and JESUS fills in the rest for me too, but sense I'm not doing as much as them I'm just a sinner and will be least in the kingdom or something like that. so I see alot of hypocrisy in torahism and Hebrew roots and also seventh day Adventists and one thing I know is that Jesus has no patience for hypocrisy. I see it as the moral laws are brought to a higher standard and the ceremonial laws are brought to lower a standard with the new covenant.
I keep wondering why you need Jesus at all if they are right? Aren't the Orthodox Torah observing Jews saved already then without Jesus? Why be born again and baptized? The Orthodox Jews are already perfectly obeying Torah aren't they? Except... the temple sacrifices! Except...the public stoning of sinners! Oops, what about that? So apparently Jesus was useful only to save the animals from sacrifice and keep us from stoning sinners! How nice of Jesus to remove the more unsavory parts of the Torah. And he died on the bloody Roman (pagan) cross just for the animals and to save the sinners from stoning? Otherwise, those who love him are not those who pick up their cross (where is that in the Torah?) And follow him but those who keep the Torah festivals. So the Orthodox Jews already love him more than the born again gentiles and are already saved without him.
The interpretation that the law was done away with in Acts 15 unravels when understood in its social/ cultural context. The council was convened to consider whether circumcision and/or keeping the law was necessary for salvation. Subsequently, this was the yoke which Peter spoke of- that keeping the law for the sake of salvation was something neither he nor his forefathers were ever able to bear. For we know that God’s law in and of itself is not burdensome (Deut 30:11-14, Pslam 19, 119, 1 John 5:3) and is actually for our good (Deut 4:40, 5:29, 6:18, 6:24, 10:13). But keeping it to earn salvation is impossible and only through Christ do we have it! 🙌🏼 So with the focus being this salvational issue, after much debating James finally declared for Gentiles to: “abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.” These 4 decrees are not independent of each other and are actually interconnected. At the time, it was a common Greco Roman cultural belief that it was acceptable to worship multiple gods. Many gentiles still believed they could just integrate Jesus with their other gods and still go to their pagan temples. The satanic worship at these temples was set up to quite literally bond/ yoke the devotee to other gods. They would kill/ strangle an animal (the sacrifice), eat and drink it’s blood (the covenantal meal) and then have sex with a cult prostitute who was believed to have a direct connection/ embodiment of the god/ goddess. It was a sexually driven, idolatrous, sacrificial event. This kind of sexual immorality went beyond just pre/ extramarital sex. Cult harlotry is, was and always will be a big no-no and a salvational issue. This was the ultimate type of defilement, adultery and betrayal which God from the beginning has always hated and spoke out against. This would and can still cause one to lose their salvation! So for gentiles who were just beginning to turn to the one true God (Acts 15:19), keeping these 4 decrees was the most basic and necessary action in beginning their walk. James furthermore suggests they would continue to grow in learning God’s ways as “the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.” (Acts 15:2 For a deeper scriptural, cultural and linguistic dive into this I recommend the book, “The Lifting of the Veil,” by Avram Yeshoshua. You can also find it for free at seedofabraham . com
I like what you say here, but I do not think keeping God’s law was ever a yoke on anyone. It was a delight, not a burden, when kept in love as God required. The Rabinnic burdens of additional thousands of commandments of men was more likely the yoke that literally NOBODY could bear. Paul was a Pharisee of Pharisees who actually tried to keep those Rabinnic commandments as well as the Torah of Moses. In his last days, sorry I cannot give the reference, I believe Paul said he was void of offense to both God and man. I’m pretty sure someone was offended or Paul would not have been falsely accused!
The learning on the sabbath isn’t included in the letter. Why didn’t they deliberately say that? Makes more sense that the law being preached every sabbath was mentioned to the Jewish people. Because they didn’t want to loose their practices or calling. There’s No discrimination between Jews and gentiles in Christ. But the Jews are still clearly distinct and set apart.
Thanks so much for this interview.. I never heard of HRM until I listened to another ministry talking about it a couple of days ago. Dr. Brown has been out to the congregation I attend to teach during a Messianic Studies Institute symposium weekend. HRM is in no way associated with the Messianic Jewish Movement.
A sincere question from a new Jewish believer in Yeshua... Don't we (Jewish believers) still have to keep the Abrahamic covenant? I understand that Sinai was fulfilled by Yeshua, but the Repeated covenant with Abraham is not void is it?
Hi, Shaul. As I read it, Galatians 3 says that the Abrahamic covenant was fulfilled in Christ, who was the "seed" of Abraham, and by extension, so are all who are in Christ. I would be interested in your thoughts on that chapter. It ends with these verses: "So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:26-29) Shalom, RLS
Don Esposito did the Hebrew Roots literal translation. At first I thought it was a lazy, clumsy translation of an unscholarly nature. Upon further examination, I find it insidious with omissions and misleading notes.
Got JESUS you have truth, torah is nothing compared to the truth of JESUS. There is a new covenant and the old covenant is dead and can not save anyone
@@adamguy33 man does live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Yehoshua is the bread of life and the Torah is the truth that proceeded out of His mouth. To think anyone can separate God from His instructions is not living in reality. The word covenant and the word law are 2 completely different words. Nowhere in scripture does God say that there will be a new law. Got Torah Got Truth
@@adamguy33 Gal 3:17 says that no promises( covenants) are cancelled by any promises that come after. Please consider this ... If each covenant cancelled the previous one why are you still eating meat?
@@qw2ps4Paul is building the legal case for why those who are in Christ by faith, even non-Jewish people (Gentiles), become descendants of Abraham and receive the blessings promised to him. In the previous verse, Paul said that even a human covenant, or "will," cannot be changed once it has been ratified. When that kind of document was officially approved by all parties and legally filed, it was irrevocable. Now Paul clarifies the point of his illustration. God made a covenant with Abraham. That covenant was a one-way promise by God to bless Abraham and his offspring in specific ways. The Judaizers were apparently telling people that the law replaced God's covenant promises to Abraham (Galatians 2:4). Paul soundly rejects that idea. Although the law was instituted 430 years later, under Moses, it did not void out God's previous promises to Abraham. Those remain in effect, because God's covenant cannot be changed. In the last verse, Paul made a point of indicating that this promise was given to Abraham's "singular" offspring, not a "plural" group or collection of many. Judaism had always believed that the promises given to Abraham would one day be fulfilled in a single person-a Messiah. Jesus, as Abraham's ultimate offspring, received those covenant promises made to Abraham. That's why all who trust in Christ's death for their sin-placing their own lives "in Christ"-also receive the blessings promised to Abraham's offspring. We receive whatever Jesus is entitled to because we have been given credit for His sinless life, and He has taken the penalty for our sinfulness.
@@harryabrahams2770got JESUS got truth, got Torah got death simple as that. Love God , Love people , if you love you will do no harm to your neighbor so no need for any law.
There have been 5 pastors in my family. I went to Bible College. But when I ran into a Jewish man, he persuaded me, through NT sola-scriptura in the Greek, that the early church believed Jesus was the natural son of Joseph. This is why the early Jewish Christian’s believed Jesus could conquer Rome, being a natural descendant of David through Solomon, as Jews were expecting of the messiah. Rome granted Jesus the title “king of the Jews” in a court of law, but only while he was nailed to a cross, to mock the Davidic throne. But if he resurrected, does that mean he still gets to claim that title, as did Herod? #jesusbiologicalfatherwasjoseph
In response to the argument at 11:57, here’s a citation from the article titled ‘Supplement to Contra Brown’: IV. 33. Page 267 Brown reviews his arguments from volume 2 against one of the primary Jewish objections. The Jewish objection runs as follows: “According to the Law (Deuteronomy 13,) Jesus was a false prophet, because he taught us to follow other gods (namely, the trinity, including the god Jesus), gods our fathers have never known or worshipped. This makes all his miracles utterly meaningless.” Brown responds to this objection with the claim that everything that Jesus did was for the glory of the Father. Brown argues that Jesus points people to the God of Israel. If this were true, then Brown and other Christian missionaries would not attempt to convert Jews to their faith. If the entire goal of Jesus is to point people to the God of Israel, then people who already worship the God of Israel do not need him. Brown and the Christian missionaries are not happy with a heart that is completely and totally devoted to the God of Israel. They want the adoration, love and reverence that is devoted to the God of Israel to be redirected towards Jesus. Jesus does not point people TO the God of Israel. Jesus points people AWAY from the God of Israel.
Jesus IS the God of Israel. He came to offer himself as the only possible atonement offering for sin. God/Word literally became flesh and dwelt among us in order to redeem us. God is not exactly like us. He was in heaven and on earth *at the same time.* There is only one God. He is not like a human in the sense that he is limited to one place by one body. He is Spirit. The Word/God became flesh. God was *also* in heaven. The Word/God became flesh and gave up his existence in the form of God and began to exist in the form of a human. As a human, the Word/Yeshua lived as we live and denied sin as we should. He was our perfect example, praying to the Father/God in heaven. Then God died for us. He is the only atonement, the only way to Himself. God is not exactly like us and trying to describe him in _only_ human terms will not work. He was able to be in Heaven as Spirit and as human man on earth at the same time. We can't do that. Jesus the man pointed us to his/our Father/God in heaven...but don't make the mistake of thinking that Jesus is not God. God is the only savior per Isaiah. Jesus is God.
My question to you is: why did you have to contact michael brown? Studying, prayer, and dependence on the Spirit of God are all you need when defending the Scriptures. michael brown is another so-called theologian who has been asked questions, and he appears to avoid them. In addition, to my recollection, he will not call out prosperity preachers.
@sundownsam3369, he contacted Dr. Brown for the same reason why you're here. Why are you here? Obviously because you believe you could get something(deeper knowledge) out of these guys. Saying that preying and studying is all we need, must not be taken literally. Studying could mean read the Bible, read a theologian book, or reach out to someone, exactly what Professor Solberg did.
It's sad how quick you are to bear false witness, my friend. "To my recollection"? Why accuse someone of something if you can't quite remember if it's true? As to your question, why do I talk with other believers? "Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future" (Prov. 19:20-21). "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice" (Prov. 12:15). "Apply your heart to instruction and your ear [listen!] to words of knowledge" (Prov. 23:12). Shalom, RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots No one is bearing false witness. I added to my recollection, but I contacted the person, and yes, he avoided answering. You, as a theologian, make it appear as if you have all the answers, and I stand by what I said: if you study, pray, and rely on the Spirit of God, you need no one else to tell you how to deal with a person; God will do the job of silencing him. The Scriptures show you how to deal with people like Rabbi Tovia Singer; look at how Yeshua handled the Pharisees and the Scribes. A true statement: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes. The difference between you and I is that I quote the scriptures and you give opinions, which is why you avoid many of my questions and questions that others have asked you. True statement: Apply your heart to instruction and your ear [listen!] to words of knowledge." The problem with all you theologians is that you get instructions from each other and never mention the Spirit of God. Go back to all your video and you will see what I mean in my last statement.
@@jonasmuela7194 Let me correct you: I am pointing out what God made clear the first time he spoke and pointing out those who are distorting what God made clear the first time he spoke. You made it clear to me that you lean on the teaching of men and not the Spirit of God. Read what you just wrote. So you'd rather let theologians like Robert Solberg teach you than allow the Spirit of God to teach you?
Well, at least you didn't call him a Grinch. I fear Christianity's embracing of certain holidays and dogmas inspired by paganism, Platonic philosophies, and gnosticism facilitates a hunger for Hebrew Roots whereby seekers oft wind up going too far in a competing direction.
How are HR ppl "going too far" by simply obeying God's very clear mandate not to use heathen customs to honor Him in Deut. 12:29-31? Did Paul not rebuke the Galatians for returning to their observation of heathen customs in Gal. 4? How does someone "go too far" in obeying what the scriptures say?
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 My saying Hebrew Roots sometimes goes too far wasn't a knock at anyone knocking holidays. Obviously, though, many of us can agree with you there while still understanding that the law of Christ & spirit & grace is different from the tutor that led to it in many respects. Spelled out in the NT clearly.
If it makes Jews angry because Gentiles celebrate say the feasts for instance, I guess that's called provoking them to jealousy and Paul says that a good thing
That comparison of switch of identity in religious sphere and secular sphere blew my mind. 🤯 So many people want to feel special. Is replacement theology a slippery slope into torahism?
Thanks Brother, it's very easy, what language did they wrote on top of the cross, Greek, Latin and Hebrew, All 3 wrote about Jesus, Jesus the Nazarene King of the Jews, so it was Jesus all the way until James strong who wrote Hebrew concordance in late 1860. And then Ben Yehuda's who created the Hebrew dictionary also in the late 1860, so Ben was a Jew Orthodox, and many Jewish people are against Jesus. So who do we have to believe the sign on the cross or men who had made up all these names. How far can you date Yahuaha?? Thanks Brother
Who exactly is going to return to Jerusalem if it’s not people realizing their identity as one of the 12 tribes of Israel? Also, being 12 gates so how you think you can enter in without being from one? Lol is there a “gentile” gate?
Hi, Jen. Here's a 60-second video I made on how Gentiles will enter the New Jerusalem and its 12 gates: ua-cam.com/users/shortsutMdlXCzjwk Blessings, Rob
The new covenant is made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, amen. I do not see this covenant being made with anyone else. Paul says outright that if we are in Christ we are now fellow citizens in the Commonwealth of Israel. In Christ we are now fellow heirs of *all* the covenant(S) of promise. Paul also tells us we are grafted into the cultivated olive tree (Israel) and being nourished from it's root (Christ). So yes, in Christ we are Israel and will enter through those gates. Amen. In response to the video: Revelation 21:24 "The nations (ethnos) will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it." These 'nations' are not 'pagan/gentile'. This is the new earth where only holiness dwells. Revelation 21:27 "Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life." Only those who's names are written in the Lamb's book of life, i.e., not foreigners, will enter. Gentiles are foreigners, those not known by God. Ephesians 2 says that those in Christ _are no longer foreigners (gentiles)._ Some people want to disinherit us from our inheritance in Christ. They want to tell us we are gentiles even though we are told that in Christ we are no longer foreigners. We are now fellow citizens. Stay strong in the Lord. Blessings
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I would think that many followers of Christ Jesus would attend a Messianic congregation because it's almost impossible to find a congregation that doesn't celebrate Easter and/or Christmas.
This was a great interview. I really enjoyed the part of Solberg's "slippery slope" question about Christians assimilating things that mainstream Christianity views as "Mosaic traditions" into their faithwalk or as part of their expression of faith. Dr. Brown's response was perfect and a true example of Defending the Biblical Roots of Christianity. I would love to see Solberg and Dr. Brown do another video together in where they either discuss or debate the topic of "How the Church split from its Biblical / Jewish Roots".
Hi Rob , what does Mr. Brown say about the fact that God divorced Israel and it is an abomination for a divorced couple to remarry and if this is Israel than where is Abraham who was promised that he and his descendants would inherit a piece of real estate? Got Torah Got Truth
Hi, Harry! The stipulations in Deut. 24:1-4 were given to regulate marriage between Israelite men and women. God wasn't literally "married" to the nation of Israel like two humans of equal status. Marriage is the imagery the Tanakh uses to describe the covenant faithfulness between almighty, eternal Yahweh and the people He called for Himself. #GotTorahGotTruth
@@TheBiblicalRoots Hi Rob YHVH does say that He was a good husband to Israel and gave her a writ of divorce and sent her away ( exile.) following the instructions of His Torah. Many Christians today claim they are the bride of Christ…so the marriage language is still used today. “ two humans of equal status “ the husband is the head just as Christ is the head of the church. Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770 Hi, Harry. I'm not sure what you mean by "in Israel." Abraham's bones are buried in the country of Israel. And he is certainly with God and part of His kingdom in a spiritual sense, if that's what you mean. RLS
G-d's son: Exodus 4:22-23 "And you shall say to Pharaoh, 'So said the Lord, "My firstborn son is Israel." '23" So I say to you, 'Send out My son so that he will worship Me, but if you refuse to send him out, behold, I am going to slay your firstborn son.' " G-d's servant: Isaiah 41:8-9 " But you, Israel My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, who loved Me," 9: Whom I grasped from the ends of the earth, and from its nobles I called you, and I said to you, "You are My servant"; I chose you and I did not despise you." Isaiah 42:1 "Behold My servant, I will support him, My chosen one, whom My soul desires; I have placed My spirit upon him, he shall promulgate justice to the nations." Isaiah 43:10 " "You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "and My servant whom I chose," in order that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be." Isaiah 44:1-2 "And now, hearken, Jacob My servant, and Israel whom I have chosen."2. "So said the Lord your Maker, and He Who formed you from the womb shall aid you. Fear not, My servant Jacob, and Jeshurun whom I have chosen." Isaiah 44:21 "Remember these, O Jacob; and Israel, for you are My servant; I formed you that you be a servant to Me, Israel, do not forget Me."
Glad to see this! Great insight!Love that Michael also stated let's bring Easter back to Passover too. Really would have liked to have seen him address the One House One Law connection to Jewish Identity by Gentiles that he did mention. The thing is that even the Gentile believers in Jewish synagogues in the Roman Empire before Paul came along in his evangelism weren't required to follow full orthodoxy, like still eat pork, to attend the Jewish synagogues. Toby Janicki of FFOZ even stated this in his book God-Fearers.
I think it is very off putting... I mean, you probably come from a very distinguished nation with a rich history and culture. Why steal ours? Equal under God fore sure, there is NO question that many "gentile" (hate that word) people are much closed to God than many Jews. But you cannot pretend to be from a different nation, I cannot pretend to be Japanese no matter how fascinating their culture is.
Just as I thought..there isn't any..why would God keep this very important information about the messiah from Israel only to reveal it later..all these scriptures are out of context..all through the tanakh when God speaks to his people he made it clear and plain what he requires of no types, shadows or dual fulfillment..thats a man made belief...
I’m very grateful that there are more Jews every year accepting Jesus; it’s a beautiful thing. Let us not forget the two way relationship that has existed since the beginning of church history. Yes there is undoubtedly “antisemitism” (a word invented by Bolshevik communists) throughout church history, and we pay no mind to the damage that always entertaining this rhetoric does to us as Christians. But there is little to NO talk about what the other side of that is. I won’t get into specifics, but there are thousands of examples if you are curious. It continues today btw, and there’s no discussion AT ALL from any messianic Jew (that I’ve heard of) that condemns the cultural repercussions they are bringing. I pray for their continued conversion.
Listen @ 34:30 Be careful what your telling believers beloved…. Believer 1: “Hey!!! I’ve been studying the Scriptures and Gods commands on His sabbath and His holy days!!! They are forever and all point to our messiah!!! I want to remember and guard them like Jesus did!!! Believer 2: “Oh so you have an identity problem and want to be Jewish? You’re like a man wanting to be a woman” Taking Gods commands and twisting it into something He calls an abomination?!?! If the spirit=truth and the truth=the word….this appears blasphemy of the spirit. Be careful believers.
Hi Rob, If the Mosaic Law is for Israel and the better covenant is for the Christians doesn’t that imply that the Jews got the inferior Law and that the church got the superior one? What then is the benefit of the chosen people status? Got Torah Got Truth
@@adamguy33 People who follow Torah are not rejecting the Messiah, they are obedient to His instructions, that is the only way you can follow Him. Hebrews 1:9 Thou ( Yehoshua ) has loved righteousness ( keepers of His Torah ) and hated Lawlessness ( those who reject the Torah ). Does God hate you? Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770so are you only wearing certain cloths. Not bathing a goat in its mothers milk. When a woman is on here period are you doing all that? It’s a slippery slope. What applies. What doesn’t?
@@thomasmarchese2808 A good God can only give good instructions. Obedience is a slippery slope to what? Disobedience is a slippery slope to what? You should ask yourself what applies and what doesn’t. Are you rejecting all of God’s law or are you choosing the instructions you want to keep and rejecting those you don’t like? Got Torah Got Truth
A very good interview. I really appreciated the humility that Rob showed when he got a little overzealous in his concerns about messianic Christians and Dr. Brown questioned him. I do think Scripture is clear about our call to follow Torah, but I see how close Mr. Solberg's belief is to the truth, and that overzealous approach seems to be the issue that can lead him into error in what I've seen of his teaching. That humility gives a good balance. Well done.
Listen @ 29:05 That’s sola scripture That’s the point Most believers who are Protestant are protesting against the Catholic tradition. They choose the Bible root over the Roman Catholic root. Because Jesus is The Word. And that’s the Torah, the prophets and psalms. Not a religious sect who changes the script.
keeping the commandments should be done out of love. Not rules for yahweist movement. Its not EASY to confine one's selfish ways to love, but to know him one must subjected to such things as love thy neighbor as thy self and other things not "written" in Torah but written on the heart. one thing I note is that hebrew roots are OK to study but not probable for EVERY walk of mankind to practice. Be the "good samaritian" and show good fruit despite given obligations. that fully summarizes the god-spell gospel.
OMGOSH, I just watched your debate with him last night and I was excited to see you do so well. I pray for him but I’m so frustrated with him and his persecution of the church. It’s so nefarious. I watched him belittle a Christian in America and I got so mad. That’s my brethren! I knew what he was talking about he just felt intimidated and couldn’t articulate it well. So he was mocked and laughed at. Please tell me someone is going to have a come to Jesus moment with him. I’ve had to block his videos bc when I see him doing what he’s doing I get so mad.
how do I say Dr Brown that you are wrong on the issue of the sabbath, because, for all man ,the sabbath is eternal . it was created and sanctified in the garden of eden(in a perfect sinless world Gen 2 :1-3 ) , it is kept in a sinful world By all (including Gentiles )who Join themselves to YHWH(Isaiah 56:1-7 )and will be kept throughout eternity by all flesh,Isaiah 66:22-23. early christian gentiles also observed the sabbath Acts 13:41-44
Solberg and Brown: "They praise me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." You profess yourselves to be wise, but have showed yourselves to be fools. Transgression of the Torah is the definition of sin. Just what do you think anyone has to repent of if they are not to keep the Torah??? Give just one example of a commandment in the Torah for the average Joe that you don't like, is a burden, or is too difficult, etc., that you don't want or don't feel you need to be obedient to and keep. I couldn't believe my ears the insults and absurd accusations. Comparing believers to transsexuals? How dare you, Solberg! And Brown, you mocking those on their journey home saying basically the same thing with your insulting "fascinate, stimulate, complicate" Jewish drag remarks. Yes, some Christians may be a bit confused about what is traditions of men, and what Scripture actually instructs, but who's fault is that? Where are their teachers to teach them right from wrong? It's not you two, that's for sure. You are adding to the problem. There is a great awakening of Israel and who is Israel that mislead Christianity and blinded Jews have been trying to supress for centuries. You two will not stop it as it is of God. You both are going to regret the day you conspired to make this insulting video to provoke the Most High and His people.
Hello, Yosef. For those who used to be under the law of Moses, breaking that law was sinful, of course. But sin is much bigger than that! In fact, "sin was in the world _before_ the law was given" (Rom. 5:13, see Gen 4:7; 13:13; 18:20; 39:9). So if we merely define sin as a transgression of the Law of Moses, then Adam and Eve never sinned, because they did not break any of the Mosaic commands. Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Robert, if it is as you say and Christians do not have to keep the Law then Christians also have no sin to repent of. You can't be held liable for something you are not commanded to keep.
@@Yosef_Morrison Hi, Yosef! The "laws" of God that define right and wrong were true long before the Law of Moses was given. So when God commands us not to murder today, it’s not because of the Ten Commandments. It’s because of His universal principle against murder. Long before God gave Israel the Law of Moses, Cain was judged for murdering his brother Abel (Gen 4:8-16). Same thing with sexual morality. Under the New Covenant, God doesn’t forbid adultery because of the Ten Commandments. Unfaithfulness and sexual immorality were wrong long before the Law of Moses, as we see, for example, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 18-19). Because mankind was made in God’s image, we have a “compass” of objective morality, so to speak, baked into our human DNA. And under the New Covenant, God's law is written on our hearts. RLS
You really should make a list of all the Laws you think Christians should keep. Murder and sexual immorality are only the only two Laws that you seem to be proposing Christians must keep and repent of they do these things. Understanding your reasoning surely it wouldn't take but a couple minutes for you to compile that list?
I feel like Rob and Dr Brown are talking about 2 different groups of people. Also, again, not defining words/people groups lead many to misunderstand scripture. The most ridiculous part was were Rob likens Gentiles observing Torah as men who think they are women... Like, where did the love go? I laughed way too much at that part. Never forget that we both worship the same Messiah!
I find it really interesting that Israel could never stay on the right path for more than a few hundred years at a time yet we as followers of Christ think we have kept the truth of the disciples and Paul. It was foretold that Jesus would come and magnify the law and make it holy and honorable. After such great example we are given and are told to emulate why would any person who believes the truth turn to twisted ways. If you dig tho you’ll see the apostasy of Christianity was predicted by Yah. I don’t know what God y’all worship but the God I worship said every word that comes from him is Good. I worship a God who does not judge his people for not accepting the chief cornerstone then turns around and shows us the way just to adopt a bunch of children who refuse the truth that was already there in the beginning. That would not be justice thaf would be scales of unequal weight. We are called to follow every word of God through the spirit just like his son showed us how. There is only one people of God. Some will just be called least and will serve those who hang on to every word of the father and son. Also notice how Paul quotes the verse about Israel being made jealous of another country.. it actually says a foolish nation. ;)
All these laws and Torah will be gone in the new heaven and earth just as it was in the beginning before the fall. Were there is no sin there is no need for any laws simple
@@boltingpuppies the old covenant is not forever, it was replaced with a better one. A new covenant was established with the blood shed by the spotless lamb of God JESUS Christ . Someday when all sin is dealt with and there is a new heaven and earth we wont need a law for the law is for sinners
Ummm are you serious ?? Where did the stoning stop? Or when did it change? What? Like did you read the dang bible? Like stoning was DONE AWAY WITH AT THE WORK OF THE TORTURE STAKE! Collossians don’t let anyone judge you was TALKING TO THEM WHO DOD OBSERVE not to let anyone judge you for being obedient NOT your Christian excuse around not letting someone judge you for NOT KEEPING COMMANDMENTS! You really need to study before you teach. This is embarrassing.
So here’s the truth on Michael Brown and Tovia. They had an agreement on their debate that neither one would continue the debate without the opposition there to defend their side. What did Michael brown do immediately after the debate? He continued for another hour without Tovia! It’s on a recording on UA-cam and you can listen to it. This shows how little Michael brown can be trusted.
You’re so right. Dr. Brown was suffering from addiction at 16 and who pulled him out of the toilet?; the satan himself. He’s been his servant every since. No, one has to be strong to find truth in this world. You dont hear stories about people shooting up heroine and being compelled to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
@@TheBiblicalRootsexactly! He followed the Father. He followed His commands. He most certainly followed His sabbaths. Jesus did """not""" teach others to forsake the ways of the Father! Can you please explain to me why you encourage people to resist the blessings of God found in Isaiah 56 & 58! When the blessings are clearly defined for those that keep God's sabbath(s)! First God will remember you .... that's huge! Also you'll have a name better than a son or daughter. Better than a son or daughter! He tells the foreigners and eunuchs that even THEY will be blessed for keeping them! The ( Christians) will be given a name better than faithful Israel, ""IF"" they take delight in Gods sabbaths (Isaiah 58:13)! The blessings are there for anyone who wishes to follow Gods instructions! Why would anyone who claims to love God not want to please Him? Would not want His blessings? Yet you say no to God's blessings and you encourage others to forsake His blessings! This just boggles the mind that there are people who would rather follow this erroneous teaching!
Fascinate Stimulate Complicate Suffocate I have a personal friend who is progressing through this list. He struggles with his lack of positive influence in the lives of his grown children and young grandchildren. He loves them dearly and wants what is best for them, but he appears to be experiencing "Alienate" (a sub-form of "Complicate") Complicate happens internally. Alienate happens externally. They seem to happen simultaneously.
I worship Christ according to the calendar he used. God deals with mankind according to the Biblical Calendar & I can show you many examples. I cannot see what is wrong with that!!
Dr. Brown likes to cite his 5 book series of ‘Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus’ a lot. In response I’d like to recommend the article ‘Supplement to Contra Brown’, by Rabbi Yisroel Blumenthal, an extremely lengthy article that reviews all 5 of his book and responds to many points he made in his book series. Having read it myself, I find that he does a great job demonstrating how Dr. Brown often misrepresents Jewish arguments rather than properly responding to them. The article can be found on the website entitled ‘A Project of Judaism Resources’, which also has many other in depth articles responding to missionary arguments, including more articles that respond to Dr. Brown.
Even with the help of Mike Brown Prof Solsberg lost this debate terribly. I wonder if Rabbi Singer would have gone forth with this debate if he known you were conspiring with Dr Brown - seeing that Brown edited the debate he had with the Rabbi to make himself look good. Anyways, I'm a neutralist, and I'm still not convinced Christianity's arguments stand the test of scrutiny when measured against the claims of the Tanakh/Torah and the Jews.
Jesus would have had to keep all of the laws because he came to save his own people (the Jews). They would not have accepted Him at all if he hadn’t. Most of them didn’t anyway because he came against the laws that were tacked on to the original…..man made laws. He then graciously extended salvation to the gentiles. Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and Jesus didn’t require it. The verses commanding people to keep the law were directed at the Jews. Paul was chosen to be an apostle to the Gentiles and declared the New Covenant to them. Not a re-newed one. You can find this in Hebrews 7:11-28. Jesus came through the line of Judah not from the tribe of Levi who were the priests under the Mosaic Law. When a new high priest comes into power, the laws are subject to change. Your Torah sister cannot keep all of the laws, it’s not possible. Jesus was the “once for all” atonement for sin,so the animal sacrifices were done away with. There is no temple or Levitical priesthood to do the duties of this sacrifice. These were LAWS and if they cannot be kept then she is mistaken. James 2:10. She may tell you that you just have to do the best you can. Can you see God saying something like this? I was in Torahism for three plus years and have been told to do the best I can. Didn’t ring true then and sure doesn’t now. Read all of Galatians and Hebrews. In short, Jesus was a Jew, but we are Gentiles and never were under the mosaic laws to begin with. hth
@@Gigi2four The spirit that is behind this post confesses "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh". Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. Now we, brethren (the church) as Isaac was, are the child of promise. We are grafted into the blessing of Abraham, at a time, before Jacob was born. The church is a spiritual type of Isaac, not Israel. Isaac was never under the law of Moses or the ten commandments. I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
Dr. Brown broke it down "Barney Style"...fascinate, stimulate, complicated, suffocate....that is exactly what I went through when I took that crooked path, BUT JESUS in His Mercy, has never left me or forsaken me and He is loving me back into His Grace.
This is only good if you work for your salvation. But if you understand that it is the father who saves you. Then it is not about work but about love.
@achristianconvertedtochris5862 , it wasn't about work..because eating Kosher, not working on Saturday and going to Feast gatherings is not hard, but it focusing on those thing, I felt I was justified y doing them and meanwhile Pride and other sins crept in.
@carriejopaull4127 there are people who do things for God to be accepted. This is the work I am talking about.
“And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?” (Luke 14:27-28, KJV)
Jesus Christ has warned us to consider the cost. The love that we have for God is very precious. It is nice to see good days and enjoy the joy of a Lord.
But we also need to remember that this comes with a cost.
Salvation is a gift from God. It is a combination of works and Faith together. Because we have Faith in God. Our works follow after our Faith proving our Faith.
People do not get mad and angry at you because you are a Christian. People do not get angry and mad at you because you are a good person.
What they get angry and mad about is when they see your works because you are a Christian. Faith without works is dead.
Wow. Blown away. This is interview was so good. I didn’t know much about Dr. Brown. So grateful for the work he’s doing. Loved the insight. What an awesome background too.
I've been following Dr. Brown's Ministry for nearly 30 years now, and he's had a great impact on my Christian walk. So cool to see you have him on your channel! 😃
DR BROWN ❤❤ an expert in the jewish hebrew language i have seen his channel how he has left great rabbis speechless very strong opponents including tovia who runs from him for 30 years after two debates dr brown is a warrior of GOD who came to discover the messiah ❤❤ God bless you both of you
Correct Dr Brown, wanting to keep torah (the word of God) is for love and never outta obligation. Its just for love. If u love me keep my commanments. Great interview.
I see keeping the commandments as a command to keep the moral laws to a high standard, but I'm a uncircumcised gentile and Jesus saved and I rely on the Jewish apostle sent to the gentiles named Paul , I dont even know any Jewish people except JESUS and I see Him in His glorified body as the apostle John described
@@adamguy33 being a gentile means you are not in covenant with the most high.. in Yeshua u are no longer a gentile u are a citizin of the family of Yahweh, the head of the body Israel. There in only one body not 2 u are grafted in to one family israel.
@@yeshuaeselcaminoayhwh1861 your deceived. In Christ Jesus is is no Jew or gentile, no free or slave, no male or female but all are one in Christ
@@adamguy33 correct nor jew nor greek just israal. Yeshua is the head of isreal for isreal is Yahwehs first born.
@@yeshuaeselcaminoayhwh1861 anyway in the new heaven and earth there wont be no Israell just like there was no Israel in the garden of Eden and no law and no Torah , the old crap will pass away and all things made new. No tears no pain no death and no dam Torah no need for it then. So you torah law worshipers can only worship the Torah for so long because it will pass away someday
Very informative interview. I had the privilege of meeting Dr Brown at the Christian radio station that I used to worked at 12 years ago.
He was very nice and brought in ice cream for the staff from his home state of North Carolina.
I am so grateful for Dr Brown! My heart has received so much fresh air since discovering his content. As a gentile believer, I have loved learning more about my biblical roots, but started to feel confused with some of the things I was seeing with friends dabbling in the Hebrew roots stuff. Listening to Dr Brown and now your channel has helped me unmuddie the water and also confirm my convictions.
This interview is much needed right now and is appreciated. Great work Professor Solberg.
Dr brown ❤❤❤ i know him since 2006 a great teacher of the hebrew scriptures ❤
Absolutely appreciated. Thank you so much!
I'm sending this to everyone.
Awesome teaching, Solberg and Brown. I feel that in our humanity, our flesh we try so hard and make many errors, but if we walk whole heartily in the Spirit which we have in Christ we will succeed as Paul and many before us. With God, nothing is impossible. He is there with us always and forever.
God is awesome. How grateful I am that He chose me...and I accepted Him...and now follow Him regardless of the cost in this life it will all pass. I look to our Heavenly Father Kingdom, which is where my destiny is and will be for all of eternity. Sometimes, I feel humanity makes God Holy Word harder than it needs to be.. the book of John is my favorite book... even though Jesus came to His Chosen People first, it also applies to all mankind.
Love your broadcast.
Peace to all......
Love this!!
Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate. My best friend recently converted to Catholicism. This perfectly describes his conversion too. We're still close friends, and I'm glad it was Catholicism rather than some of the other things he was considering. It seems to be the universal trap of spiritualism. "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about Me," (John 5:39). It is not kosher or hail Marys that bring us closer to God, it is Jesus/Yeshua that is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5).
Right… but on numerous occasions in the Old Testament, God required an individual of high moral character to vouch on behalf of the Israelites.
What this conveys, to me at least, is that sometimes you get what you need when a righteous person serves as a witness to you.
You should (and I do) recite your prayers in the name of Jesus, directed to the father, but I don’t think it’s wrong to ask for some support from Mother Mary.
I refuse to believe that God would penalize you for invoking his mother’s support. If anything, I strongly believe that it can help.
@5BBassist4Christ AMEN! 🙏
@@Alexandrius_Caesarpraying to the dead is necromancy. Forbidden in scripture
It's so true, tho I find RC ism to be as empty as any other faith that eschews Jesus for other emphases. Keep praying for your best friend, Loving him and challenging those aberrant wedges within that pry spiritualism of any kind from Jesus Christ.
I hadn't reached the Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate at first comment. Wow. Powerful application. I appreciate your comment.
@GHotSauceAnd1 It didn't go well for King Saul when he invoked help of the dead prophet Samuel. The king disturbed Samuel's rest.
Thanks for this interview with Dr. Brown. Shows how a real Jewish believer in Jesus should be and his explanation for gentile believers is on target.
Awesome video. I'm dealing with a lot of these issues. I'm a gentile believer in a church with many Jewish believers. So much going on. It would be easy to leave, but a balance would be taken away.
The spirit that is behind this post confesses "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh".
Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Now we, brethren (the church) as Isaac was, are the child of promise. We are grafted into the blessing of Abraham, at a time, before Jacob was born.
The church is a spiritual type of Isaac, not Israel.
Isaac was never under the law of Moses or the ten commandments.
I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
It’s all about the resurrection. I have listened to many orthodox rabbis talk about Jesus, and one thing they avoid (or miss out) is talk on the resurrection. If Jesus did indeed resurrect, then all their opposition comes to naught. The apostle Paul’s emphasis was always the resurrection, and it should be ours too.
I so love and admire Dr Brown! I’ve been learning from him for decades!
Thanks RL!! I just found and subscribed to your channel.
Now may the God of peace who by the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep, our Lord Jesus, equip you with every good thing to do his will, working in us what is pleasing before him through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever. Amen. Hebrews 13:20-21
Thank u for this ❤
My sheep will hear my voice and not strangers
These are not strange voices ❤️🔥🙏
Excellent interview, Rob!! Grateful for Dr. Brown's contribution to the Kingdom
Love these men
Thanks for this. Jewish christian debates were the first reason i got to know the work of Dr. Brown.
Awesome collaboration
Professor Solberg I saw your debate with Rabbi Singer. You did very well, and presented your points with respect and grace. It's interesting to learn that Dr. Brown helped with your preparation. I'm happy you are friends, and brothers in Christ.
Dr. Brown, I've watched several of your Answering The Rabbis series. I'm heartened to hear that you are preparing a retort to the many vehement statements Rabbi Tovia Singer launches at the Christian faithful on a near daily basis. Still, for some reason I like him. I think it's because he seems very sincere in his love of G-d, and his knowledge is prodigious. I pray for the Lord to bless him with the full truth of G-d's word so he can see the Lord Jesus in it as G-d intends. Perhaps one day... Bless you both, and thank you for what you do for the kingdom. ✝
Thank you! And you know what? I like Rabbi Singer, too. He's kind and funny and highly intelligent. I still pray for him. How amazing would he be as a modern-day Paul, a brilliant and zealous enemy of the cross converted to Christ!
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Yes, I've related him to Paul as well for the same reasons. Paradoxically, he views Paul as the worst offender of the New Testament figures! Perhaps a little spiritual blindness, and when the Lord opens his eyes he will be able to see the Word as it is. I still pray for him too.
Even with the help of Mike Brown Prof Solsberg lost this debate terribly. I wonder if Rabbi Singer would have gone forth with this debate if he known you were conspiring with Dr Brown - seeing that Brown edited the debate he had with the Rabbi to make himself look good. Anyways, I'm a neutralist, and I'm still not convinced Christianity's arguments stand the test of scrutiny when measured against the claims of the Tanakh/Torah and the Jews.
Wow, what a great interview. Both beautiful Christian gentlemen sharing this subject in such a respectful (to scripture) manner. Praise God and I thank you both.
I need to start listening to Dr Brown....
11 minutes. God raised Jesus, heads nodding in agreement. Thank you.
No Jew or Gentile are obligated to keep Torah. All of us get to choose to. It's that simple and since my heart is circumcised in Jesus, I want to follow Torah. Not for Salvation but because the law of God is perfect and converts the soul. That simple 😊
And yet the Jewish Bible says that every Jew must keep God’s commandments. The Torah says that this is a covenant between Him and the Jews forever.
Dr Brown is clearly very confused and up to his eyeballs in Zionism and Jewish nationalism that believes they own the Torah.
@@jonathani1your wrong. Totally. The covenant was for Israel and people chosen to be called Israel by GODS touch not bloodline. Israel is a covenant people.
@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 Yes, but they are not obligated. No one is forcing them, nor I. I do it because I love it. It's not an obligation. I am jewish, but I believe that anyone who wants to walk in covenant (not seek salvation) should obey the Torah. Just like the mixed crowd that came out of Egypt with the Hebrews. God called them all "children of Israel." Paul clearly says that in Christ we are all sons of Abraham. I don't know what's so complicated...it's almost like "this is for us mentality not for you." Christo tore down that wall. Why would He only want to give it to one person... wouldn't He love that all obey. Isn't that what the 1000 reign is about obeying Torah and having Shalom for all? It's not complicated. Some theologians complicate it due to money, fame and pride, or just blindness.
@@isacnoel4326 we are 100% obligated as Christians to keep the Torah because it is Christ who binds us to the Torah. Otherwise we may be in jeopardy of hearing on that day depart from me you who practice lawlessness. What is happening here is the false movement of Zionism and and people have taught falsely concerning replacement theology as to what it means, and what does it mean, Jesus, is the fruit of Israel, ancient Israel that is, and he is now the high priest and king, and absolutely the object of all of our worship, and he has replaced all, and he is all, so once we have become in covenant with YESHUA we are now the children of God and we are the house of Israel. I love Israel, and I love all peoples, but there seems to be a great deception in this hour that Jews are going to heaven separate from Jesus as they have an active living covenant already without the new covenant and this is entirely false. Only those who know his voice are children of the living God and only those that are born again are legally considered the house of Israel.
this is..... FOUNDATIONAL
love it!
This is an amazing and awesome interview...
Shalom Shalom Professor...
@20:00 - 27:00 John 14:15 , 21
I love Him, so I must obey the commandments and his law.
YES YES YES... YOU SAID IT! The way the Hebrew Roots movement inappropriately assumes or subsumes Jewish ethnicity... is nothing more than "TRANS-ETHNICISM" and no different than "transgenderism"... God will not be mocked and doesn't make mistakes!!!! Thank you...
Do you think that Jewish proselytes in the days of the apostles were “trans ethnicities”? Obviously not. They merely wanted to be numbered with God’s people.
That's actually incorrect because we don't assume Jewish ethnicity. We are of our own ethnicity, grafted into the church of Israel. Our physical ethnicity doesn't change sir.
Challenging Dr. Brown. Thank you for your take on diversity in the body. You're a good man.
The Anointing in Zachariah 4 brings the two trees of Romans 11 to unity
God married two sisters. The daughter of isreal.
God married another but he has waited for isreal to return
And jews singing to christ is a joy ish aoccasion
Hallelujah
Just say no to circumcision
Deep 🙏🏽
Hi Rob I would also recommend reaching out to Radar Apologetics/Rabbi Eduardo he’s a Messianic Jew I think it would be a good interview
I agree 100%
Vocab Malone and Rabbi Eduardo have had a few interviews too if I remember correctly. BHI and Hebrew Roots have a lot on common.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm In all due respect you don't believe in the Trinue nature of God and reject Jesus are God.
You are the last person to lecture anyone on what is false teaching.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm That is Trithesism which is heretical. There is no 3 separate Gods.
" If you don’t believe in the Trinity, then you don’t understand who God is. You may say the word “God” but you don’t understand His nature.
Second, you couldn’t possibly understand who Christ is-that He is God in human flesh. The Incarnation of Christ is an essential component of the biblical gospel, as John 1:1-14 and many other biblical passages make clear.
To deny the Trinity is to deny the Incarnation. And to deny the Incarnation is to wrongly understand the true gospel.
What you subscribe to is Arianism which is heretical.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm By the way. The concept of the Trinity didn't originate from the Roman Catholic church.
You can find the Trinity in the Old Testament.
As a matter of fact Jesus declares himself as God through out the new Testament which is easy to miss if you don't understand 1st century Jewish culture.
Excellent interview.
Another great interview with another Jew for Jesus!
May I suggest you try to interview someone named Melissa Hume with the same channel name. She was involved in this movement for many many years and now has her eyes opened. She does short but powerful videos on here to help others see the truth. God bless you Rob!
This is the guest I was waiting for, this dude knows his Stuff
(1Co 7:18 TLV) Was anyone called when he already had been circumcised (Jewish)? Let him not make himself uncircumcised (to hide his Jewishness). Has anyone been called while uncircumcised (Non-Jewish)? Let him not allow himself to be circumcised (in order to be accepted by your Jewish brothers, or to think he is more saved than he was before) Parenthesis are my comment.
(1Co 7:19 TLV) Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing-but keeping God’s commandments matters
To keep it simple
#1. If you are Jewish, you do not stop being Jewish because now you have faith in Messiah Yeshua, you do not stop being Jewish or have to hide who you are by becoming uncircumcised. Many in the Churches at times would tell a Jewish believer that they were no longer Jewish, because now they are Christians. A Jewish person will always be Jewish.
#2. Has anyone been called while uncircumcised, which would be the Non-Jewish believers, they did not have to become circumcised to be accepted into the covenant, they are already accepted in Messiah Yeshua, and Jewish believers should treat them as equals in Messiah.
There are no 2nd class citizens in YHVH ELOHIMS Kingdom.
The next verse 19, is Shaul's point, what is important is not circumcision or uncircumcision, BUT God's Commandments/Torah matters.
Circumcision is not prohibited, as long as you are doing it for the right reasons.
The Feast of the Lord were shadow pictures pointing to Messiah, The Messiah Yeshua is the substance. Once the substance has come to us i.e. the revelation of Yeshua Messiah, we no longer need to observe Messiah in the shadows.
here is the elephant in the room.
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
I'm not quite following you, Jamie. Neither Dr. Brown nor I suggest that keeping the commandments of God is no longer required. I teach and believe that obedience is God’s “love language.” Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I'm sure you would agree that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or for certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I'm sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT teaches that the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRootsso why does the Messiah have a sin sacrifice for the FUTURE temple? Now non-Jews aren't required to keep the 613 Mitzvot but Isaiah 56 shows if they do out of a pure heart they'll be greater then sons or daughters. Also, JC isn't HaShem see John 8:40, Galatians 4:4, Hoses 11:9, Numbers 23:19, and Isaiah 45:5. Furthermore if we were to actually look at Paul's writings we would need more information to know what he was dealing with and to whom he was actually speaking otherwise he's a other Roman puppet just like the High Priest was along with the Sadducee's. Paul was either teaching the Noahide covenant or making stuff to try to blend Hellenized Jewish culture with Roman culture something Jesus would've seen as abhorrent if we are reading John 1:24-31 in context seeing Jesus himself was a Pharisee of the house of Hillel and taught the exact same things as Hillel did except for marriage in which he went with the teaching of Shammai instead. The religion you keep promoting was most likely never taught by the Nazarene and is pagan in origin and practice as he would've been a Pharisee and well versed in Mishnah.
@@TheBiblicalRoots that which held us captive was his rejection of us. The world having no temple, no shekinah glory, having no life giving Torah by true disciples, we were captive by not having his kingdom. Now that we have all of these in Christ he binds all the law upon us and it’s intended requirements. Yes we know that when we sin we bring for the sacrifice and Christ is that sacrifice but the law teaches it perfectly. Tons of other things that we must do that are easily agreeable by most.
@@Thunder_dome_aaron YESHUA said. My kingdom is not of this world. He was the king of the Jews but not their earthly kingdom which had lost its savor. YESHUA was the son of man who was the veil of the living YHVH. He was greater than shammai and Hillel and was never taught by either of them in any of these schools but he carried and was the actual source himself of all life. We are bound to the law by Christs orders and we must fulfill them just as our teacher says to by his example.
@@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 that's paganism and is a mirror image of Dionysus with some Horus and Odysseus tied in. All I ask is you research what I just said out. Isaiah 45:4 and Galatians 4:4 are pretty evident Yeshua couldn't be the source of life. Now if we went to John and took John 1:1 from a Kabbalistic perspective then you'd find the WORD of HaShem or divine utterance or plan is the source of life and Yeshua of Nazareth was just a mamzer trying to be Messiah even though he never met the qualifications.
Doesn’t say he will die a criminals death and live on. Doesn’t say he will be rejected and then people would come to him.
Jesus was liked. There were so many people there for his teaching that he had to get on a boat to get space for him and people.
The Fascinate, Stimulate, Complicate, Suffocate, is exactly what I’ve seen in all those I know who practice it. If you do not have an intimate relationship with Jesus, it could be dangerously easy to get enticed by it. I’ve been to Hebrew Roots feasts celebrations and I can see the appeal and the draw of it. It’s fun, people are kind for the most until they discover you disagree with them, there’s messianic music, dancing, food and community. it’s a party..who doesn’t love a party. But like Dr. Brown was saying (in a nut shell) without the worship and devotion to Jesus alone as the focal point; they get lost in fascination with the Jewish traditions, then are stimulated in that it ties their emotions into it; and like I’ve experienced with in Laws, they complicate family relationships because of differences in religious ordinances and get suffocated and carried away by exalting the Jewishness of it all above Jesus. They really seem to have come to look at Jesus as if He’s holding the Law with both hands above His head, it shining in glory with him exclaiming ‘I kept it perfectly and this is what you must do to please me and the Father’ although they express they keep it “to the best of their ability” and what they lack they say is where grace comes in. It seems as if what Christian’s have been accused of by them “abusing grace” or “grace as a license to sin” is the very thing they are unknowingly doing. The pride of being favored because of their devotion to practice Jewish traditions/keep the Law has blinded them to the fact that they are fallen short and have kept nothing. I know this may not speak to all those in Torahism, but it does for the majority of those I know.
Agreed, JESUS is everything and completely finished the work for us and we rest in him
"They look at Jesus as if He’s holding the Law with both hands above His head, it shining in glory with Him exclaiming ‘I kept it perfectly and this is what you must do to please me and the Father’"
Well said, AKB! Sadly, I see this sort of posture far too often among Torahists. They believe Jesus points us to the Torah when Scripture teaches just the opposite.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I’ve often said in discussions with them, (debates rather, it always turns into a debate) that “the Torah is good and points us to Jesus” and they agree to a small extent and then affirm with their own words that Yeshua points us “back” to the Torah, “He kept it so that He could show us how to keep it.”
I try to stick specifically to the scriptures in these discussions so that they become aware that I’m not adding my own thoughts or opinions to it. Scripture at face value doesn’t support their views, so as I read aloud from Galatians, Romans, Hebrews and various others of the New Testament; I’ve been told “it’s not what it means” (a tactic of 119 ministries) and I say “well thats what it says” 🥴 It’s all circles and always ends up with questions like “well, what is righteousness?” “So it’s ok to murder?” On and on, even if I show them the text. It’s exhausting, and goes on for hours. Its like I’m talking to someone who’s had way too many, and I don’t realize it until they make me feel like I have too. Lol
“But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
Galatians 3:22-28 NASB1995
Their house of cards falls with even just this small passage above, but they can’t see it because the lens they’re looking through is fogged with with the smoke of Mt. Sinai.
@@akb9107 good point, I feel like the spirit of God opens up my eyes to see and understand these simple truths. I don't get how people dont see this and say things like got Torah got truth. I say got JESUS got truth. Are they just not saved and cant see because they are blinded by the evil one, i just dont get it. One thing that gets to me is they still pick and choose what laws are more important then others and none of the torahism crowd is following the law like Israel was required to in ancient days. They just say they do their best and JESUS fills in the rest, yet they look down on people like me that dont think worshiping on any particular day is important or how one does not need to follow all dietary laws etc. Well I am doing my best and JESUS fills in the rest for me too, but sense I'm not doing as much as them I'm just a sinner and will be least in the kingdom or something like that. so I see alot of hypocrisy in torahism and Hebrew roots and also seventh day Adventists and one thing I know is that Jesus has no patience for hypocrisy. I see it as the moral laws are brought to a higher standard and the ceremonial laws are brought to lower a standard with the new covenant.
I keep wondering why you need Jesus at all if they are right? Aren't the Orthodox Torah observing Jews saved already then without Jesus? Why be born again and baptized? The Orthodox Jews are already perfectly obeying Torah aren't they? Except... the temple sacrifices! Except...the public stoning of sinners! Oops, what about that? So apparently Jesus was useful only to save the animals from sacrifice and keep us from stoning sinners! How nice of Jesus to remove the more unsavory parts of the Torah. And he died on the bloody Roman (pagan) cross just for the animals and to save the sinners from stoning? Otherwise, those who love him are not those who pick up their cross (where is that in the Torah?) And follow him but those who keep the Torah festivals. So the Orthodox Jews already love him more than the born again gentiles and are already saved without him.
The interpretation that the law was done away with in Acts 15 unravels when understood in its social/ cultural context.
The council was convened to consider whether circumcision and/or keeping the law was necessary for salvation. Subsequently, this was the yoke which Peter spoke of- that keeping the law for the sake of salvation was something neither he nor his forefathers were ever able to bear. For we know that God’s law in and of itself is not burdensome (Deut 30:11-14, Pslam 19, 119, 1 John 5:3) and is actually for our good (Deut 4:40, 5:29, 6:18, 6:24, 10:13). But keeping it to earn salvation is impossible and only through Christ do we have it! 🙌🏼
So with the focus being this salvational issue, after much debating James finally declared for Gentiles to:
“abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.”
These 4 decrees are not independent of each other and are actually interconnected. At the time, it was a common Greco Roman cultural belief that it was acceptable to worship multiple gods. Many gentiles still believed they could just integrate Jesus with their other gods and still go to their pagan temples.
The satanic worship at these temples was set up to quite literally bond/ yoke the devotee to other gods. They would kill/ strangle an animal (the sacrifice), eat and drink it’s blood (the covenantal meal) and then have sex with a cult prostitute who was believed to have a direct connection/ embodiment of the god/ goddess. It was a sexually driven, idolatrous, sacrificial event.
This kind of sexual immorality went beyond just pre/ extramarital sex. Cult harlotry is, was and always will be a big no-no and a salvational issue. This was the ultimate type of defilement, adultery and betrayal which God from the beginning has always hated and spoke out against. This would and can still cause one to lose their salvation!
So for gentiles who were just beginning to turn to the one true God (Acts 15:19), keeping these 4 decrees was the most basic and necessary action in beginning their walk. James furthermore suggests they would continue to grow in learning God’s ways as “the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.” (Acts 15:2
For a deeper scriptural, cultural and linguistic dive into this I recommend the book, “The Lifting of the Veil,” by Avram Yeshoshua. You can also find it for free at seedofabraham . com
I like what you say here, but I do not think keeping God’s law was ever a yoke on anyone. It was a delight, not a burden, when kept in love as God required.
The Rabinnic burdens of additional thousands of commandments of men was more likely the yoke that literally NOBODY could bear. Paul was a Pharisee of Pharisees who actually tried to keep those Rabinnic commandments as well as the Torah of Moses. In his last days, sorry I cannot give the reference, I believe Paul said he was void of offense to both God and man. I’m pretty sure someone was offended or Paul would not have been falsely accused!
The learning on the sabbath isn’t included in the letter. Why didn’t they deliberately say that? Makes more sense that the law being preached every sabbath was mentioned to the Jewish people. Because they didn’t want to loose their practices or calling. There’s No discrimination between Jews and gentiles in Christ. But the Jews are still clearly distinct and set apart.
This was great interview Rob
Thanks so much for this interview.. I never heard of HRM until I listened to another ministry talking about it a couple of days ago. Dr. Brown has been out to the congregation I attend to teach during a Messianic Studies Institute symposium weekend. HRM is in no way associated with the Messianic Jewish Movement.
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A sincere question from a new Jewish believer in Yeshua... Don't we (Jewish believers) still have to keep the Abrahamic covenant? I understand that Sinai was fulfilled by Yeshua, but the Repeated covenant with Abraham is not void is it?
Hi, Shaul. As I read it, Galatians 3 says that the Abrahamic covenant was fulfilled in Christ, who was the "seed" of Abraham, and by extension, so are all who are in Christ. I would be interested in your thoughts on that chapter. It ends with these verses:
"So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:26-29)
Shalom, RLS
Don Esposito did the Hebrew Roots literal translation. At first I thought it was a lazy, clumsy translation of an unscholarly nature. Upon further examination, I find it insidious with omissions and misleading notes.
What version is that?
Awesome interview Professor Solberg!
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When Brown mentioned the slippery slope on both sides at around 50 mins mark. 🔥🤌
How can someone say that they were saved at a certain time when the scriptures state that he who makes it to the end is saved. Got Torah Got Truth
Got JESUS you have truth, torah is nothing compared to the truth of JESUS. There is a new covenant and the old covenant is dead and can not save anyone
@@adamguy33 man does live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Yehoshua is the bread of life and the Torah is the truth that proceeded out of His mouth. To think anyone can separate God from His instructions is not living in reality. The word covenant and the word law are 2 completely different words. Nowhere in scripture does God say that there will be a new law. Got Torah Got Truth
@@adamguy33
Gal 3:17 says that no promises( covenants) are cancelled by any promises that come after.
Please consider this ...
If each covenant cancelled the previous one why are you still eating meat?
@@qw2ps4Paul is building the legal case for why those who are in Christ by faith, even non-Jewish people (Gentiles), become descendants of Abraham and receive the blessings promised to him. In the previous verse, Paul said that even a human covenant, or "will," cannot be changed once it has been ratified. When that kind of document was officially approved by all parties and legally filed, it was irrevocable.
Now Paul clarifies the point of his illustration. God made a covenant with Abraham. That covenant was a one-way promise by God to bless Abraham and his offspring in specific ways. The Judaizers were apparently telling people that the law replaced God's covenant promises to Abraham (Galatians 2:4). Paul soundly rejects that idea. Although the law was instituted 430 years later, under Moses, it did not void out God's previous promises to Abraham. Those remain in effect, because God's covenant cannot be changed.
In the last verse, Paul made a point of indicating that this promise was given to Abraham's "singular" offspring, not a "plural" group or collection of many. Judaism had always believed that the promises given to Abraham would one day be fulfilled in a single person-a Messiah.
Jesus, as Abraham's ultimate offspring, received those covenant promises made to Abraham. That's why all who trust in Christ's death for their sin-placing their own lives "in Christ"-also receive the blessings promised to Abraham's offspring. We receive whatever Jesus is entitled to because we have been given credit for His sinless life, and He has taken the penalty for our sinfulness.
@@harryabrahams2770got JESUS got truth, got Torah got death simple as that. Love God , Love people , if you love you will do no harm to your neighbor so no need for any law.
There have been 5 pastors in my family. I went to Bible College. But when I ran into a Jewish man, he persuaded me, through NT sola-scriptura in the Greek, that the early church believed Jesus was the natural son of Joseph.
This is why the early Jewish Christian’s believed Jesus could conquer Rome, being a natural descendant of David through Solomon, as Jews were expecting of the messiah. Rome granted Jesus the title “king of the Jews” in a court of law, but only while he was nailed to a cross, to mock the Davidic throne. But if he resurrected, does that mean he still gets to claim that title, as did Herod?
#jesusbiologicalfatherwasjoseph
Do the Jews struggle with Cornelius being an Edomote. He was Peter's convert,
In response to the argument at 11:57, here’s a citation from the article titled ‘Supplement to Contra Brown’:
IV. 33. Page 267
Brown reviews his arguments from volume 2 against one of the primary Jewish objections. The Jewish objection runs as follows: “According to the Law (Deuteronomy 13,) Jesus was a false prophet, because he taught us to follow other gods (namely, the trinity, including the god Jesus), gods our fathers have never known or worshipped. This makes all his miracles utterly meaningless.”
Brown responds to this objection with the claim that everything that Jesus did was for the glory of the Father. Brown argues that Jesus points people to the God of Israel.
If this were true, then Brown and other Christian missionaries would not attempt to convert Jews to their faith. If the entire goal of Jesus is to point people to the God of Israel, then people who already worship the God of Israel do not need him. Brown and the Christian missionaries are not happy with a heart that is completely and totally devoted to the God of Israel. They want the adoration, love and reverence that is devoted to the God of Israel to be redirected towards Jesus.
Jesus does not point people TO the God of Israel. Jesus points people AWAY from the God of Israel.
Jesus IS the God of Israel. He came to offer himself as the only possible atonement offering for sin. God/Word literally became flesh and dwelt among us in order to redeem us.
God is not exactly like us. He was in heaven and on earth *at the same time.* There is only one God. He is not like a human in the sense that he is limited to one place by one body. He is Spirit. The Word/God became flesh. God was *also* in heaven. The Word/God became flesh and gave up his existence in the form of God and began to exist in the form of a human. As a human, the Word/Yeshua lived as we live and denied sin as we should. He was our perfect example, praying to the Father/God in heaven. Then God died for us. He is the only atonement, the only way to Himself. God is not exactly like us and trying to describe him in _only_ human terms will not work. He was able to be in Heaven as Spirit and as human man on earth at the same time. We can't do that. Jesus the man pointed us to his/our Father/God in heaven...but don't make the mistake of thinking that Jesus is not God. God is the only savior per Isaiah. Jesus is God.
@@boltingpuppies Yout response is assertions based on circular reasoning that doesn’t actually address my claims.
Interesting but lots of opinions with little scripture to back it up
My question to you is: why did you have to contact michael brown? Studying, prayer, and dependence on the Spirit of God are all you need when defending the Scriptures. michael brown is another so-called theologian who has been asked questions, and he appears to avoid them. In addition, to my recollection, he will not call out prosperity preachers.
@sundownsam3369, he contacted Dr. Brown for the same reason why you're here. Why are you here? Obviously because you believe you could get something(deeper knowledge) out of these guys. Saying that preying and studying is all we need, must not be taken literally. Studying could mean read the Bible, read a theologian book, or reach out to someone, exactly what Professor Solberg did.
It's sad how quick you are to bear false witness, my friend. "To my recollection"? Why accuse someone of something if you can't quite remember if it's true? As to your question, why do I talk with other believers? "Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future" (Prov. 19:20-21). "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice" (Prov. 12:15). "Apply your heart to instruction and your ear [listen!] to words of knowledge" (Prov. 23:12).
Shalom, RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots Is it a sin to dismiss God instruction?
@@TheBiblicalRoots No one is bearing false witness. I added to my recollection, but I contacted the person, and yes, he avoided answering. You, as a theologian, make it appear as if you have all the answers, and I stand by what I said: if you study, pray, and rely on the Spirit of God, you need no one else to tell you how to deal with a person; God will do the job of silencing him. The Scriptures show you how to deal with people like Rabbi Tovia Singer; look at how Yeshua handled the Pharisees and the Scribes. A true statement: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes. The difference between you and I is that I quote the scriptures and you give opinions, which is why you avoid many of my questions and questions that others have asked you. True statement: Apply your heart to instruction and your ear [listen!] to words of knowledge." The problem with all you theologians is that you get instructions from each other and never mention the Spirit of God. Go back to all your video and you will see what I mean in my last statement.
@@jonasmuela7194 Let me correct you: I am pointing out what God made clear the first time he spoke and pointing out those who are distorting what God made clear the first time he spoke.
You made it clear to me that you lean on the teaching of men and not the Spirit of God. Read what you just wrote. So you'd rather let theologians like Robert Solberg teach you than allow the Spirit of God to teach you?
Well, at least you didn't call him a Grinch. I fear Christianity's embracing of certain holidays and dogmas inspired by paganism, Platonic philosophies, and gnosticism facilitates a hunger for Hebrew Roots whereby seekers oft wind up going too far in a competing direction.
How are HR ppl "going too far" by simply obeying God's very clear mandate not to use heathen customs to honor Him in Deut. 12:29-31? Did Paul not rebuke the Galatians for returning to their observation of heathen customs in Gal. 4? How does someone "go too far" in obeying what the scriptures say?
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 My saying Hebrew Roots sometimes goes too far wasn't a knock at anyone knocking holidays. Obviously, though, many of us can agree with you there while still understanding that the law of Christ & spirit & grace is different from the tutor that led to it in many respects. Spelled out in the NT clearly.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 again, I said I agree about holidays. When i said "too far in the other direction"..I was talking about other things.
If it makes Jews angry because Gentiles celebrate say the feasts for instance, I guess that's called provoking them to jealousy and Paul says that a good thing
Jesus referenced the Rabinical teaching in John 7 and 8 with the Libation Ceremony and the fire Ceremony. That should be a great witness to the Jews
This is so true, complicating, suffocates and they wither spiritually
That comparison of switch of identity in religious sphere and secular sphere blew my mind. 🤯 So many people want to feel special. Is replacement theology a slippery slope into torahism?
Replacement theology is a lie and not biblical. I wouldn’t give it two seconds of my time.
Thanks Brother, it's very easy, what language did they wrote on top of the cross, Greek, Latin and Hebrew,
All 3 wrote about Jesus, Jesus the Nazarene King of the Jews, so it was Jesus all the way until James strong who wrote Hebrew concordance in late 1860. And then Ben Yehuda's who created the Hebrew dictionary also in the late 1860, so Ben was a Jew Orthodox, and many Jewish people are against Jesus.
So who do we have to believe the sign on the cross or men who had made up all these names.
How far can you date Yahuaha??
Thanks Brother
Who exactly is going to return to Jerusalem if it’s not people realizing their identity as one of the 12 tribes of Israel? Also, being 12 gates so how you think you can enter in without being from one? Lol is there a “gentile” gate?
Hi, Jen. Here's a 60-second video I made on how Gentiles will enter the New Jerusalem and its 12 gates: ua-cam.com/users/shortsutMdlXCzjwk Blessings, Rob
The new covenant is made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, amen. I do not see this covenant being made with anyone else. Paul says outright that if we are in Christ we are now fellow citizens in the Commonwealth of Israel. In Christ we are now fellow heirs of *all* the covenant(S) of promise. Paul also tells us we are grafted into the cultivated olive tree (Israel) and being nourished from it's root (Christ). So yes, in Christ we are Israel and will enter through those gates. Amen.
In response to the video:
Revelation 21:24
"The nations (ethnos) will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it."
These 'nations' are not 'pagan/gentile'. This is the new earth where only holiness dwells.
Revelation 21:27
"Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life."
Only those who's names are written in the Lamb's book of life, i.e., not foreigners, will enter.
Gentiles are foreigners, those not known by God. Ephesians 2 says that those in Christ _are no longer foreigners (gentiles)._
Some people want to disinherit us from our inheritance in Christ. They want to tell us we are gentiles even though we are told that in Christ we are no longer foreigners. We are now fellow citizens. Stay strong in the Lord. Blessings
Great interview. Love you both men of God.
The Old Covenant *The New Covenant*
1. Blood of Animals 1. Blood of Christ
2. Written on Stone 2. Written on Hearts
3. Shadow 3. Substance
4. Glorious 4. More Glorious
5. Had an End 5. Has no End
6. Law of Moses 6. Law of Messiah
7. Law of Works 7. Law of Faith
8. Law of Sin and Death 8. Law of Spirit of Life
9. Many Sacrifices 9. One Sacrifice
10. Powerless to Save 10. Power to Save
11. Annual Atonement 11. Eternal Atonement
12. Earthly Tabernacle 12. Heavenly Tabernacle
13. Ministry of Death 13. Ministry of Life
14. Outer Form - Flesh 14. Inner Reality - Spirit
15. Ministry of 15. Ministry of
Condemnation Reconciliation
I would think that many followers of Christ Jesus would attend a Messianic congregation because it's almost impossible to find a congregation that doesn't celebrate Easter and/or Christmas.
Every Sunday is Resurrection Sunday, the greatest feast in the Apostolic Churches.
Easter follows, then Christmas, the feast of the Child.
This was a great interview. I really enjoyed the part of Solberg's "slippery slope" question about Christians assimilating things that mainstream Christianity views as "Mosaic traditions" into their faithwalk or as part of their expression of faith. Dr. Brown's response was perfect and a true example of Defending the Biblical Roots of Christianity. I would love to see Solberg and Dr. Brown do another video together in where they either discuss or debate the topic of "How the Church split from its Biblical / Jewish Roots".
Who says Hebrew Israelites don’t have faith in Yahusha the messiah ? Total false statement.
Hi Rob , what does Mr. Brown say about the fact that God divorced Israel and it is an abomination for a divorced couple to remarry and if this is Israel than where is Abraham who was promised that he and his descendants would inherit a piece of real estate? Got Torah Got Truth
Hi, Harry! The stipulations in Deut. 24:1-4 were given to regulate marriage between Israelite men and women. God wasn't literally "married" to the nation of Israel like two humans of equal status. Marriage is the imagery the Tanakh uses to describe the covenant faithfulness between almighty, eternal Yahweh and the people He called for Himself.
#GotTorahGotTruth
@@TheBiblicalRoots Hi Rob YHVH does say that He was a good husband to Israel
and gave her a writ of divorce and sent her away ( exile.) following the instructions of His Torah. Many Christians today claim they are the bride of Christ…so the marriage language is still used today. “ two humans of equal
status “ the husband is the head just as Christ is the head of the church. Got Torah Got Truth
@@TheBiblicalRoots Hi Rob , shouldn’t Abraham be in Israel now if these are children of the promise? Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770got JESUS got truth
@@harryabrahams2770 Hi, Harry. I'm not sure what you mean by "in Israel." Abraham's bones are buried in the country of Israel. And he is certainly with God and part of His kingdom in a spiritual sense, if that's what you mean. RLS
G-d's son:
Exodus 4:22-23 "And you shall say to Pharaoh, 'So said the Lord, "My firstborn son is Israel." '23" So I say to you, 'Send out My son so that he will worship Me, but if you refuse to send him out, behold, I am going to slay your firstborn son.' "
G-d's servant:
Isaiah 41:8-9 " But you, Israel My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, who loved Me," 9: Whom I grasped from the ends of the earth, and from its nobles I called you, and I said to you, "You are My servant"; I chose you and I did not despise you."
Isaiah 42:1 "Behold My servant, I will support him, My chosen one, whom My soul desires; I have placed My spirit upon him, he shall promulgate justice to the nations."
Isaiah 43:10 " "You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "and My servant whom I chose," in order that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be."
Isaiah 44:1-2 "And now, hearken, Jacob My servant, and Israel whom I have chosen."2. "So said the Lord your Maker, and He Who formed you from the womb shall aid you. Fear not, My servant Jacob, and Jeshurun whom I have chosen."
Isaiah 44:21 "Remember these, O Jacob; and Israel, for you are My servant; I formed you that you be a servant to Me, Israel, do not forget Me."
Gloria eterna a Dio Padre gloria eterna a Gesù Cristo gloria eterna allo Spirito Santo nei secoli dei secoli senza fine amen Alleluyia
Torahism needs to find its way to the Cultish podcast
I believe Hebrew roots has been talked about on Cultish podcast
@@joshuamelton9148 true, they have. I’d just like to hear Rob and Jeremiah dialogue!! 😀
Allie Beth Stuckey had Cultish on her program for a 2-part show Aug 30 all about Hebrew Roots.
Glad to see this! Great insight!Love that Michael also stated let's bring Easter back to Passover too. Really would have liked to have seen him address the One House One Law connection to Jewish Identity by Gentiles that he did mention. The thing is that even the Gentile believers in Jewish synagogues in the Roman Empire before Paul came along in his evangelism weren't required to follow full orthodoxy, like still eat pork, to attend the Jewish synagogues. Toby Janicki of FFOZ even stated this in his book God-Fearers.
I think it is very off putting... I mean, you probably come from a very distinguished nation with a rich history and culture. Why steal ours? Equal under God fore sure, there is NO question that many "gentile" (hate that word) people are much closed to God than many Jews. But you cannot pretend to be from a different nation, I cannot pretend to be Japanese no matter how fascinating their culture is.
So which scriptures states that the messiah would be risen on the third day?
Matt 16:21
Matt 17:23
Matt 20:19
Luke 9:22
Luke 18:33
Luke 24:7
Luke 24:46
Acts 10:40
1 Corinthians 15:4
There’s many. 😊
Here you go Floyd: *Where are the prophecies of Jesus as a resurrected Messiah?* ua-cam.com/video/NDvUkAjEnzw/v-deo.html
Blessings, Rob
Just as I thought..there isn't any..why would God keep this very important information about the messiah from Israel only to reveal it later..all these scriptures are out of context..all through the tanakh when God speaks to his people he made it clear and plain what he requires of no types, shadows or dual fulfillment..thats a man made belief...
@@Piddley65the old Testament is in the new testament revealed and the new testament is in the old Testament concealed
@@Piddley65
1 Corinthians 2:8
"None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."
I’m very grateful that there are more Jews every year accepting Jesus; it’s a beautiful thing. Let us not forget the two way relationship that has existed since the beginning of church history. Yes there is undoubtedly “antisemitism” (a word invented by Bolshevik communists) throughout church history, and we pay no mind to the damage that always entertaining this rhetoric does to us as Christians. But there is little to NO talk about what the other side of that is. I won’t get into specifics, but there are thousands of examples if you are curious. It continues today btw, and there’s no discussion AT ALL from any messianic Jew (that I’ve heard of) that condemns the cultural repercussions they are bringing. I pray for their continued conversion.
Listen @ 34:30
Be careful what your telling believers beloved….
Believer 1: “Hey!!! I’ve been studying the Scriptures and Gods commands on His sabbath and His holy days!!! They are forever and all point to our messiah!!! I want to remember and guard them like Jesus did!!!
Believer 2: “Oh so you have an identity problem and want to be Jewish? You’re like a man wanting to be a woman”
Taking Gods commands and twisting it into something He calls an abomination?!?!
If the spirit=truth and the truth=the word….this appears blasphemy of the spirit.
Be careful believers.
This was the most sick video I have ever heard I believe. Keeping Torah is like a man trying to be a women. What a massive statement of abomination.
Hi Rob, If the Mosaic Law is for Israel and the better covenant is for the Christians doesn’t that imply that the Jews got the inferior Law and that the church got the superior one? What then is the benefit of the chosen people status? Got Torah Got Truth
Nothing there is no benefit, if you reject JESUS then you are dead in your sins and all your work all your Torah observance is in vain period
@@adamguy33 People who follow Torah are not rejecting the Messiah, they are obedient to His instructions, that is the only way you can follow Him. Hebrews 1:9 Thou ( Yehoshua ) has loved righteousness ( keepers of His Torah ) and hated Lawlessness ( those who reject the Torah ). Does God hate you? Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770so are you only wearing certain cloths. Not bathing a goat in its mothers milk. When a woman is on here period are you doing all that? It’s a slippery slope. What applies. What doesn’t?
@@thomasmarchese2808 A good God can only give good instructions. Obedience is a slippery slope to what? Disobedience is a slippery slope to what? You should ask yourself what applies and what doesn’t. Are you rejecting all of God’s law or are you choosing the instructions you want to keep and rejecting those you don’t like? Got Torah Got Truth
A very good interview. I really appreciated the humility that Rob showed when he got a little overzealous in his concerns about messianic Christians and Dr. Brown questioned him. I do think Scripture is clear about our call to follow Torah, but I see how close Mr. Solberg's belief is to the truth, and that overzealous approach seems to be the issue that can lead him into error in what I've seen of his teaching. That humility gives a good balance. Well done.
Listen @ 29:05
That’s sola scripture
That’s the point
Most believers who are Protestant are protesting against the Catholic tradition. They choose the Bible root over the Roman Catholic root.
Because Jesus is The Word.
And that’s the Torah, the prophets and psalms.
Not a religious sect who changes the script.
keeping the commandments should be done out of love. Not rules for yahweist movement. Its not EASY to confine one's selfish ways to love, but to know him one must subjected to such things as love thy neighbor as thy self and other things not "written" in Torah but written on the heart. one thing I note is that hebrew roots are OK to study but not probable for EVERY walk of mankind to practice. Be the "good samaritian" and show good fruit despite given obligations. that fully summarizes the god-spell gospel.
OMGOSH, I just watched your debate with him last night and I was excited to see you do so well. I pray for him but I’m so frustrated with him and his persecution of the church. It’s so nefarious. I watched him belittle a Christian in America and I got so mad. That’s my brethren! I knew what he was talking about he just felt intimidated and couldn’t articulate it well. So he was mocked and laughed at. Please tell me someone is going to have a come to Jesus moment with him. I’ve had to block his videos bc when I see him doing what he’s doing I get so mad.
how do I say Dr Brown that you are wrong on the issue of the sabbath, because, for all man ,the sabbath is eternal . it was created and sanctified in the garden of eden(in a perfect sinless world Gen 2 :1-3 ) , it is kept in a sinful world By all (including Gentiles )who Join themselves to YHWH(Isaiah 56:1-7 )and will be kept throughout eternity by all flesh,Isaiah 66:22-23. early christian gentiles also observed the sabbath Acts 13:41-44
Solberg and Brown: "They praise me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."
You profess yourselves to be wise, but have showed yourselves to be fools. Transgression of the Torah is the definition of sin. Just what do you think anyone has to repent of if they are not to keep the Torah??? Give just one example of a commandment in the Torah for the average Joe that you don't like, is a burden, or is too difficult, etc., that you don't want or don't feel you need to be obedient to and keep.
I couldn't believe my ears the insults and absurd accusations. Comparing believers to transsexuals? How dare you, Solberg! And Brown, you mocking those on their journey home saying basically the same thing with your insulting "fascinate, stimulate, complicate" Jewish drag remarks. Yes, some Christians may be a bit confused about what is traditions of men, and what Scripture actually instructs, but who's fault is that? Where are their teachers to teach them right from wrong? It's not you two, that's for sure. You are adding to the problem. There is a great awakening of Israel and who is Israel that mislead Christianity and blinded Jews have been trying to supress for centuries. You two will not stop it as it is of God.
You both are going to regret the day you conspired to make this insulting video to provoke the Most High and His people.
Hello, Yosef. For those who used to be under the law of Moses, breaking that law was sinful, of course. But sin is much bigger than that! In fact, "sin was in the world _before_ the law was given" (Rom. 5:13, see Gen 4:7; 13:13; 18:20; 39:9). So if we merely define sin as a transgression of the Law of Moses, then Adam and Eve never sinned, because they did not break any of the Mosaic commands.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Robert, if it is as you say and Christians do not have to keep the Law then Christians also have no sin to repent of. You can't be held liable for something you are not commanded to keep.
@@Yosef_Morrison Hi, Yosef! The "laws" of God that define right and wrong were true long before the Law of Moses was given. So when God commands us not to murder today, it’s not because of the Ten Commandments. It’s because of His universal principle against murder. Long before God gave Israel the Law of Moses, Cain was judged for murdering his brother Abel (Gen 4:8-16). Same thing with sexual morality. Under the New Covenant, God doesn’t forbid adultery because of the Ten Commandments. Unfaithfulness and sexual immorality were wrong long before the Law of Moses, as we see, for example, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 18-19). Because mankind was made in God’s image, we have a “compass” of objective morality, so to speak, baked into our human DNA. And under the New Covenant, God's law is written on our hearts. RLS
You really should make a list of all the Laws you think Christians should keep. Murder and sexual immorality are only the only two Laws that you seem to be proposing Christians must keep and repent of they do these things. Understanding your reasoning surely it wouldn't take but a couple minutes for you to compile that list?
I feel like Rob and Dr Brown are talking about 2 different groups of people. Also, again, not defining words/people groups lead many to misunderstand scripture. The most ridiculous part was were Rob likens Gentiles observing Torah as men who think they are women... Like, where did the love go? I laughed way too much at that part. Never forget that we both worship the same Messiah!
I find it really interesting that Israel could never stay on the right path for more than a few hundred years at a time yet we as followers of Christ think we have kept the truth of the disciples and Paul. It was foretold that Jesus would come and magnify the law and make it holy and honorable. After such great example we are given and are told to emulate why would any person who believes the truth turn to twisted ways. If you dig tho you’ll see the apostasy of Christianity was predicted by Yah. I don’t know what God y’all worship but the God I worship said every word that comes from him is Good. I worship a God who does not judge his people for not accepting the chief cornerstone then turns around and shows us the way just to adopt a bunch of children who refuse the truth that was already there in the beginning. That would not be justice thaf would be scales of unequal weight. We are called to follow every word of God through the spirit just like his son showed us how. There is only one people of God. Some will just be called least and will serve those who hang on to every word of the father and son. Also notice how Paul quotes the verse about Israel being made jealous of another country.. it actually says a foolish nation. ;)
All these laws and Torah will be gone in the new heaven and earth just as it was in the beginning before the fall. Were there is no sin there is no need for any laws simple
@@adamguy33 I agree
@@codyalexander3290
Psalm 119:152
"Long ago I learned from your statutes that you established them to last forever."
@@adamguy33
Psalm 119:160
"All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal."
@@boltingpuppies the old covenant is not forever, it was replaced with a better one. A new covenant was established with the blood shed by the spotless lamb of God JESUS Christ . Someday when all sin is dealt with and there is a new heaven and earth we wont need a law for the law is for sinners
Ummm are you serious ?? Where did the stoning stop? Or when did it change? What? Like did you read the dang bible? Like stoning was DONE AWAY WITH AT THE WORK OF THE TORTURE STAKE! Collossians don’t let anyone judge you was TALKING TO THEM WHO DOD OBSERVE not to let anyone judge you for being obedient NOT your Christian excuse around not letting someone judge you for NOT KEEPING COMMANDMENTS! You really need to study before you teach. This is embarrassing.
So here’s the truth on Michael Brown and Tovia. They had an agreement on their debate that neither one would continue the debate without the opposition there to defend their side. What did Michael brown do immediately after the debate? He continued for another hour without Tovia! It’s on a recording on UA-cam and you can listen to it. This shows how little Michael brown can be trusted.
You’re so right. Dr. Brown was suffering from addiction at 16 and who pulled him out of the toilet?; the satan himself. He’s been his servant every since.
No, one has to be strong to find truth in this world. You dont hear stories about people shooting up heroine and being compelled to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Can’t see the response….
Worship Jesus worship Jesus is all you keep saying man when HIS ENTIRE MESSAGE WAS RETURN TO YHWH! Geez Louis
Actually, Jen, Jesus' entire message was "follow me" (Matt. 4:19, 8:22, 9:9, 10:38, 16:24, 19:21; Mark 1:17, 2:14, 8:34, 10:21; Luke 5:27, 9:23, 9:59, 18:22; John 1:43, 10:27, 12:26, 21:19).
Shalom,
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRootsexactly!
He followed the Father.
He followed His commands.
He most certainly followed His sabbaths.
Jesus did """not""" teach others to forsake the ways of the Father!
Can you please explain to me why you encourage people to resist the blessings of God found in Isaiah 56 & 58!
When the blessings are clearly defined for those that keep God's sabbath(s)!
First God will remember you .... that's huge!
Also you'll have a name better than a son or daughter.
Better than a son or daughter!
He tells the foreigners and eunuchs that even THEY will be blessed for keeping them!
The ( Christians) will be given a name better than faithful Israel, ""IF"" they take delight in Gods sabbaths (Isaiah 58:13)!
The blessings are there for anyone who wishes to follow Gods instructions!
Why would anyone who claims to love God not want to please Him?
Would not want His blessings?
Yet you say no to God's blessings and you encourage others to forsake His blessings!
This just boggles the mind that there are people who would rather follow this erroneous teaching!
Fascinate
Stimulate
Complicate
Suffocate
I have a personal friend who is progressing through this list. He struggles with his lack of positive influence in the lives of his grown children and young grandchildren. He loves them dearly and wants what is best for them, but he appears to be experiencing "Alienate" (a sub-form of "Complicate")
Complicate happens internally.
Alienate happens externally.
They seem to happen simultaneously.
Very interesting observation, Thomas. Thank you!
RLS
I worship Christ according to the calendar he used. God deals with mankind according to the Biblical Calendar & I can show you many examples. I cannot see what is wrong with that!!
Dr. Brown likes to cite his 5 book series of ‘Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus’ a lot.
In response I’d like to recommend the article ‘Supplement to Contra Brown’, by Rabbi Yisroel Blumenthal, an extremely lengthy article that reviews all 5 of his book and responds to many points he made in his book series. Having read it myself, I find that he does a great job demonstrating how Dr. Brown often misrepresents Jewish arguments rather than properly responding to them.
The article can be found on the website entitled ‘A Project of Judaism Resources’, which also has many other in depth articles responding to missionary arguments, including more articles that respond to Dr. Brown.
Even with the help of Mike Brown Prof Solsberg lost this debate terribly. I wonder if Rabbi Singer would have gone forth with this debate if he known you were conspiring with Dr Brown - seeing that Brown edited the debate he had with the Rabbi to make himself look good. Anyways, I'm a neutralist, and I'm still not convinced Christianity's arguments stand the test of scrutiny when measured against the claims of the Tanakh/Torah and the Jews.
My Torah sister would say Jesus and his disciples kept all Torah laws. Is this not true? She is really coming down hard on our family about this
Jesus would have had to keep all of the laws because he came to save his own people (the Jews). They would not have accepted Him at all if he hadn’t. Most of them didn’t anyway because he came against the laws that were tacked on to the original…..man made laws. He then graciously extended salvation to the gentiles. Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and Jesus didn’t require it. The verses commanding people to keep the law were directed at the Jews.
Paul was chosen to be an apostle to the Gentiles and declared the New Covenant to them. Not a re-newed one.
You can find this in Hebrews 7:11-28. Jesus came through the line of Judah not from the tribe of Levi who were the priests under the Mosaic Law. When a new high priest comes into power, the laws are subject to change.
Your Torah sister cannot keep all of the laws, it’s not possible. Jesus was the “once for all” atonement for sin,so the animal sacrifices were done away with. There is no temple or Levitical priesthood to do the duties of this sacrifice. These were LAWS and if they cannot be kept then she is mistaken. James 2:10. She may tell you that you just have to do the best you can. Can you see God saying something like this? I was in Torahism for three plus years and have been told to do the best I can. Didn’t ring true then and sure doesn’t now. Read all of Galatians and Hebrews.
In short, Jesus was a Jew, but we are Gentiles and never were under the mosaic laws to begin with. hth
@@Gigi2four The spirit that is behind this post confesses "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh".
Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Now we, brethren (the church) as Isaac was, are the child of promise. We are grafted into the blessing of Abraham, at a time, before Jacob was born.
The church is a spiritual type of Isaac, not Israel.
Isaac was never under the law of Moses or the ten commandments.
I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.