How To Set Up A 3/4 Size Guitar. Sharpen My Axe
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2016
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This is an excellent video explaining how the average Joe who doesn’t have fancy/expensive luthier tools can do a decent setup on a budget guitar.
Phil, you are the best! I wish I lived closer to your store.
Just got one...great to have in the car or at work during down time...do my finger exercises with it!!! Helping immensely!!!
On these hockey puck head stocks you can reverse the way you wind the smallest 3 strings to lesson the severe angle of the strings through the nut. Lube the nut and it improves the tuning stability and you can also put cheap locking tuners if you want. Thats what I've always done on guitars that don't have fairly straight string pull through the nut.
Thank you for this , every time I watch I learn something I can use on the " gear " I have . Lately string gauge and buzzing .
Thank you so much for this video! I have an Oscar Schmidt 3/4 size acoustic. I bought Earthwood strings for it and they’re the right gauge which made me happy , but the part that psyched me *most* was the string trim/file part. I’m so glad I found your channel! Thank you!!
This video made me try this out on my rhoads minion, which now plays better than ever before. Thanks so much man!
Thanks,always a pleasure,learn so much!
I'm always nervous about using steel wool near magnetic pickups. Any small pieces of steel will inevitably stick to one or both pickups without very close attention. I'd cover the pickups completely with tape.
In the video, the pup covers were still in place as when bought new - but yes, you're right. Cover the magnetic poles with tape or you'll be in a world of trouble.
Just come across this video. My son has one of these Jackson Dinky Minions. I did a set up on it last night as it still had the original strings on plus the fretboard was looking a bit dry.
I replaced the strings with Ernie Ball Super Slinky's (9's). Intonation has been a bit tricky but all seems fine now. I will keep this video handy as a good reference in case the current set up I have done goes south.
Thanks for this. Great advice!
More of these set up tip vids please! Great advice. It does make me wonder why they don't put thicker strings on in the factory though?
learning something new is always cool
I wish these guitars came with just the bridge humbucker.
Great video...Thanks Phillip sounds great.
God continued blessings...
I wish the term 3/4 guitar was a little more accurate. It seems that anything from these 22.5 scale guitars to 24 scale guitars are included. An inch and a half is a significant change in scale length.
I was able to get decent action and tuning stability with my 23.5 scale Peavey T-15 with 10-46 tuned to E flat. I did change to a custom set of 11- 52 Elixir Polywebs though and it workers better.
That was great Phil thanks from Brisbane Australia
Nice video. I like these little guitars.
Merry Christmas!!
Awesome tips, thanks !
wow!!! It's exactly what I was looking for!!!!
Really cool. Awesome! Thanks for the rundown. Just bought one exactly for $170.00 guitar center.
For people listening at the beginning, the noise during his caliper segment was a drill from another guitar being set up.
timed perfectly too lmao Robotic calipers
I wondered about that...
11s is a must for gio mikro to get your intonation right
That's really cool. I had no idea these were so different than regular guitars, lol. I've never even picked one up.
hey man i think your awesome, your like the everyday at home guitar player guy, i like your info videos about companies and stuff cuz im real big on the history of that stuff, your store looked nice as well i just wish i was closer to it, i think gretsch guitars are super sweet but you cant really find em in my area, but anyways i love your videos so plz keep em coming, if you could do a cheap bedroom head cab combo video for me that would b great or just a shout out and an answer in another video would b cool too, well thx for all the free content and get it up bro you rock!!!
great vid!
thanks!
Great vid!
Man I love that blue guitar
I had a little Chiquita guitar at one time (like the one Michael J Fox played on the opening scene of Back to the Future). I would tune it up 2 and 1/2 steps to an A standard tuning which helped it stay in tune better. A different tuning might not be suitable for a student, especially if they wanted to jam with others, so your solution of using heavier strings is a great alternative.
In my experience I have found that even cheap tuners work fine as long as the nut is not pinching or grabbing the strings. Would strongly suggest folks check the nut if they're having tuning stability issues before switching tuners.
have you made any videos that show how to adjust a floyd rose properly?
thank you!
Hi Phill love your vids!! I recently purchased a Fender squire strat mini . I have installed locking tuners and lubed the nut with graphite and raised saddles to remove buzzing and turning intonation screw's at bridge but it seems I've nearby backed off screws to almost unscrewing them to get close to intonation of the strings. Have you ever set one up ? And do you think it would help to change saddle's to graphite? I'm hoping to get this guitar set up good enough to gig with .. Thanks keep it up and thanks for your time!
The thing is...11s would feel better to an adult grip. For a child learning I considered doing this for my nephew's minion. Then I realised you can't really drop the bridge, it's spot on intonation wise but the saddles are so near the back of the plate, when you try to adjust the height the screws just lift and the saddle doesn't drop. If I were to consider 11s I'd have to still make it easier for him to fret by lowering the action...Since I can't do this I'm just going to try the next set up from the stock 9-42 and see how it feels to him.
Yeah I would have paid more attention on buffing the frets a different way, adjusting the action and keeping the smaller gauge strings. For kids it’s hard enough to get the dexterity and then adding that heavier string is gonna make it worse.
What are the appropriate strings to make the sound of this bright, clean and sonorous guitar?
good stuff mane
Thanks for the info man...I just got my 7 year old daughter a mini strat 2 weeks ago and I will do this for her.
+Randon Loeb that paint job on that guitar looked amazing. she is very lucky.
Hey...Dr.Strings....do you Know if these to well for drop tuning...for 3/4 guitars.
I have short scale (23.5) breedlove acoustic I am have the lightest gauge (10 to something like 47) elixir strings on n I love it. I personally usually put 10s on shorter electrics also. Its really preference. Now they breedlove was about 700 with tax so not a beginners guitar. I'd really like to find a higher end short scale electric. Its just fun
did you have to redo the setup with the intonation?
fantastic a mini Jackson Flyng V green
Cool little guitar..going to grab one for my boy's 5th B day. What amp are you playing in this video?
can i put a floyd rose on it?
And how much additional money did this setup cost ,please . Thanks and awesome job
Is caliper needed?
I just got one of those Jackson minion guitars, and I'd like to upgrade the tuning machines. Any recommendations?
Thanks! And thanks for all these great videos!
Hi Phil and Fellow Guitarists,
Newbie on short scale axes here.
Do you have to perform the same string cutting (- 2 to 3 inches) and nut filing for the other strings and not just for the 6th?
Any response will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Does it make sense upgrade for locking tuners?
Great video. Just got my minion Rhoads. Regarding the but do you just need to file the low E or actually do all 6? What grit steel wool? Cheers
tayron27 you need to do them all so the slot won't bond the strings, also, don't make the strings slot draper, you only want to make it wider
Are there any better tuners for these?
I have an Ortega R121L 3/4 nylon string left handed acoustic not classical guitar. Please could I ask if it is possible to put steel strings on it, and if so, which ones. Thank you for your time.
I will use this bit of info , to set up 3/4 size squire I was given the other day.. I will use 13 gauge flats , hmm see what that will do . :)
So, how did those 13's play?
Hey, I'm from Mexico and yesterday I bought this guitar without knowing that it was smaller than the normal ones (I bought it on the internet on sale). I'm going to learn how to play guitar, so I am a beginner. Can you tell me wich strings should I buy for the best performance of this little guitar? I will start learning with this one and then get a full size one. I'm 21 and I am a little sad because it is my first guitar and I feel like a fool for buying a small one. Still, I'm being positive about it and I'm happy that I'll have an instrument so I can learn the basics. Thanks for your help, nice video!
they play and sound awesome for the price!!
hey phil i just got a jackson minion and i love it. been playing about 15yrs now and have had many expensive guitars and somehow this minion is better than everyone i've had except the prs of course. with that said, i'm having a little trouble keeping the Bstring in tune. it keeps drastically detuning and even when i tune it up alot it just drops back a bunch. did i not file the nut slot properly or is it the string, i am using 11-48 and everyone is fitting great and staying in tune except the B.
Sounds like the tuner for that string is bad. Get a cheap seat of locking tuners off ebay for $12.00 and use those on your guitar instead.
sonic sega plain strings have a tendency to walk on you. Locking tuners will help with it but I’d highly suggest talking to a professional and getting it looked over as it may be something that only s/he can fix. Not saying that you’ve done anything wrong but it’s worth having it looked at.
Another suggestion would be to use some Nut Sauce on the slots and see if it helps with stability. It may be that the string is binding in the nut. Again, it’s worth getting her looked at especially if that’s your primary guitar.
I purchased an Ibanez PGMM31 miKro and it is awesome the frets feel good. I think it shipped with .008 gauge string or at least felt that way, I put .010 gauge on mine and it is still out tune some when I play chords. Any tips? Should I go to even higher gauge strings?
I would, I would do 10 hybrids or 11s. I like both. any bigger and you will have to file the nut.
@@PhillipMcKnight thanks buddy! I appreciate it! Your the man!
Jackson mini vs Ibanez mikro? What are your thoughts? I played for 15 years. Stopped about 5 years ago due to work and life. Looking to get back into on a much more budget friendly scale. No more full stacks and pedal boards. Maybe i can get my soon into it when he is old enough to learn. Would a 3/4 size guitar be a good route?
mikro is your better bet. but i love my rr mini
Best one by a mile is the Ibanez RGM55. Just check the specs, it has some really nice pickups they use in J Custom and Prestige models.
Squier Mini mod?
Why use heavy strings? I thought about it when I got mine and the way I figured it, 9s would probably stretch better on a shorter scale length and be more stable. Do heavy strings give it more full size tone?
I've been searching the Internet trying to find out if the string height over the 12th fret of a three-quarter scale acoustic guitar should be the same as a full scale acoustic guitar and you did not go over specifications for any of that. I guess I'm just going to go with 3/32 over the 12th fret like I would any other acoustic guitar. This is a Martin guitar 3/4 scale made in Mexico and the action right now is about a quarter of an inch over the 12th fret.
What's the name of that metal sponge?
You mean steel wool? :P It polishes the frets. The steel strands are so small that it acts like a super fine sand paper.
String gauge is preference not make the guitar more or less playable. So what is your point?
Wolf Due maybe perhaps true with Gibson (24-3/4”) of Fender (25.5”) standard scale lengths but having owned an Ibanez Mikro (22.5”), putting 9’s completely destroys the tuning stability and is too hard to keep in standard A440 tuning. There are some good references online that mention proper string adjustments in regards to different scale lengths. Like I mentioned above, a 22.5” scale guitar doesn’t like 9’s although I’m very used to playing 9’s. Reading through some of these conversion tables, using 10’s or 11’s greatly improves the string tension and tuning stability and allows a shorter scale guitar to play in the same tuning as a full scale guitar using 9-42’s.
Yes, there is a preference to string gauge but if you have a short scale, it’s more important to use what gauge will keep the guitar in tune than just what feels nice in your fingers.
@@taimaishu-nao1922 True...because of the tremolo bridge than anything else. And this guitar is short scale makes it harder to tune. The bigger gauge is harder to bend to a full note, bar chord and hard on the fingers, also buzz like a bee (on 3 heavy string E, A, D), hence high action to solve the problem. But no one likes high action on electric guitar unless you only plugging and play a lot of single note, like blues music and such.
why are you going to use a 50?
i know this docent relay matter but arent minions 2/3 scale
It's just common language to call them 3/4 or 2/3, the exact math is different. A typical guitar is 25.5" scale, 2/3 would be 17" and a 3/4 would be 19.125" and the mini guitars are 22.5" scale. It's closer to 5/6 size but not exactly.
Is that a Jackson Dinky Minion?
prangtm yes
Why can't I use 9-42 strings on it?
worked fine for me..
Intonation issues
You can, but with the significantly shorter scale length, the lighter guage strings are much looser, which affects intonation when chording.
Agree completely, why on earth does a budget 3/4 beginner guitar need fancy inlays, two pickups, and a tone knob? May as well throw a floyd rose special on there too. These are strictly either fun throwaway guitars for adults, or children's guitars for very basic learning on before their hands can handle a full size guitar. At which point they can make more informed decisions on what pickups to use where, how and when to use the tone knob etc.
the fancy inlays and pickups make me want to buy it even more.
Why the heavy gauge strings? I didn't get the takeaway on why this should be done?
the scale is so short that the lack of tension makes the guitar that is already hard to keep in tune, worse.
+pupstop1 Also a shorter scale will result in less tension which makes it harder to get low action without fret buzz as the string have a larger ellipse when plucked. Heavier strings compensates by adding more tension.
You can use light strings, but you won't get really low action without fret buzz. The lack of tension may also not allow enough relief in the neck, depending on the neck and type of truss rod. This also adversely affects action.
Thats considered heavy?
Mark Lucio
Heavy is relative to scale length at least and the player to less of an extent. Many people, I'm not saying they are right, consider the medium set of 11-490 to be heavy.
Phillip McKnight for this guitar what tuners could I replace it with for more stable intonation?
Man, I have to say NO WAY to the steel wool part, a monkey thought up that one, the steel wool gets trapped in any gaps around the frets, then Over time rusts and can cause some nasty little splinters in your fingers, Not Good !
no body said it was uncommon, only a very OLD practice used by those who do not know any better.
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Damn, I guess seasoned guitar techs have had it wrong all along ;)
Steel wool works if it's what you got. Never had problem with splinters or rust, but can make a bit of a nasty mess if you're not careful. The worst is bits end up stuck on the pickup magnets/polepieces. Used sticky tape to remove the tiny steel hairs since they were too small to easily get with fingers. Like trying to pick up iron filings. In the end, I like Scotchbrite better or very fine sandpaper/emery cloth, depending how bad the frets are and how polished you want to go.