When's serve is a nightmare. He hits those fast topspin serves down the right-hander's backhand side, forcing opponents to stand a little back from the table and on that side. Then he slips in that devastating, short heavy side-spin serve that is so far away from the receiver that even a tall player like Chris has got little hope of reaching it. If by some miracle you do get there and get it back on the table, it's always going to land in the corner on When's forehand side. Of course he knows this and he's there and waiting. If you watch other games you will see when players get those back, he just hits his second shot across the other side of the table. In this game, Chris gets lucky with one of those and gets a point off an edge. The rest go the other way. at A highly effective serve strategy that was a big part in making him a world class player in his prime. Great to watch.
Yes, unforgettable, I should think. Many decades ago I found myself drawn against the World No 3, Liang Geliang, then of China, now US, in an Open Tournament, rather to the amusement of my chums. I was an England County player, i.e. good, but not that THAT sort of good. He was an absolute gent, actually. We were still knocking up when I looked across at him, and he was looking at me with a raised eyebrow and an ever so slight grin. He clearly had my number. He let me thrash around for 20 minutes and look better than I was and get quite a few points, before finishing each game (to 21) with some piledriver forehands that nearly knocked the bat out of my hand, the ones I could actually reach. It was good for my footwork, too, all the walking back I had to do to pick up the ball that had just whistled past my ear. This was in the bad old Cold War days, and his people didn't like him talking to me and my friends, but he was pretty firm with them and we spent a fun hour together. I also tried to chat up a tiny and extremely cute Chinese player called Li Ming (with the help of a London friend of Chinese extraction). She was hurried away quite quickly when the minders eventually noticed! I obviously looked like a running dog of reactionary western imperialism. I've often wondered what happened to her. The Chinese team were so poorly kitted out, she and her colleagues didn't even have tracksuits, just grey overcoats.
Chris Doran a de la chance de pouvoir jouer contre ce grand champion ! C'est toujours un plaisir à le voir et j'espère que M. Doran en a profité pour se faire... PLAISIR !
Good camera angle on this game. zhi gets some crazy angles on his serves and shots always taking balls off the bounce. However, some of his serves look suspect from this angle. Chris is playing too passive for Zhis style
Possibly, but if you try to attack him, you look even more of a berk! The only real answer is to be better than him, and not all that many are. I don't agree that his serves are illegal, by the way. We all develop habits and tics. I can't see that anything he does could be construed as giving him an unfair advantage. The ball looks to be visible at all times by the receiver.
Why is the umpire not enforcing rule 2.6.5, which He Zhi When is not complying with? If I were Chris Doran, I would have asked the umpire to get the referee to adjudicate, as the umpire is clearly ignoring this rule.
God save us from UA-cam experts. The free arm doesn't appear to be in the way when seen from the front and at the receiver's height. The serve at 4.25 for example, looks perfectly OK. Not that I'd want to be on the receiving end of it. If umpires called every serve that didn't comply 100%, you'd never finish a game. No one, for instance, throws up off a flat palm, which is actually pretty hard to do. As long as they didn't appear to be trying to finger spin the ball, I wouldn't call it.
@@fanorydberg2424 Exactly. Also, imagine being a British League referee and deciding to call When for serving in a way that he never gets called for in top class international competition - isn't going to happen. He only has two basic serves anyway, so it doesn't matter if the arm is in the way. It's either hard and fast top-spin down the right-hander's backhand channel, or side spin to the forehand side. You can see which one is coming at the last second despite his arm. Getting it back is another matter entirely though!
Chris didn't have any trouble seeing the contact point of the serve, that's why there weren't any complaint. HZW contacted the ball at waist height but his free-arm was at chest height, so it did not block the view.
@@huynguyentien1504 If his arm was at chest height and the ball was struck at waist height, then the ball was not visible at all times, which is a requirement of the service rules. That's only one of the rules being ignored!
He Zhi When is an all time great and one of my favorite professionals
When's serve is a nightmare. He hits those fast topspin serves down the right-hander's backhand side, forcing opponents to stand a little back from the table and on that side. Then he slips in that devastating, short heavy side-spin serve that is so far away from the receiver that even a tall player like Chris has got little hope of reaching it. If by some miracle you do get there and get it back on the table, it's always going to land in the corner on When's forehand side. Of course he knows this and he's there and waiting. If you watch other games you will see when players get those back, he just hits his second shot across the other side of the table. In this game, Chris gets lucky with one of those and gets a point off an edge. The rest go the other way. at A highly effective serve strategy that was a big part in making him a world class player in his prime. Great to watch.
When's serve is illegal, see my comment of 15/12/2108
He Zhiwen was still young at that time, he was only 53. :)
I am sure it was an honor for Chris to have played He Zhiwen.
Yes, unforgettable, I should think. Many decades ago I found myself drawn against the World No 3, Liang Geliang, then of China, now US, in an Open Tournament, rather to the amusement of my chums. I was an England County player, i.e. good, but not that THAT sort of good. He was an absolute gent, actually. We were still knocking up when I looked across at him, and he was looking at me with a raised eyebrow and an ever so slight grin. He clearly had my number. He let me thrash around for 20 minutes and look better than I was and get quite a few points, before finishing each game (to 21) with some piledriver forehands that nearly knocked the bat out of my hand, the ones I could actually reach. It was good for my footwork, too, all the walking back I had to do to pick up the ball that had just whistled past my ear. This was in the bad old Cold War days, and his people didn't like him talking to me and my friends, but he was pretty firm with them and we spent a fun hour together. I also tried to chat up a tiny and extremely cute Chinese player called Li Ming (with the help of a London friend of Chinese extraction). She was hurried away quite quickly when the minders eventually noticed! I obviously looked like a running dog of reactionary western imperialism. I've often wondered what happened to her. The Chinese team were so poorly kitted out, she and her colleagues didn't even have tracksuits, just grey overcoats.
Chris Doran a de la chance de pouvoir jouer contre ce grand champion ! C'est toujours un plaisir à le voir et j'espère que M. Doran en a profité pour se faire... PLAISIR !
he zhiwen is just awesome classic style old school superb to watch great vid cheers
Those serves are off the chart !!
I have never seen Chris look so confused! He's like, "I don't know how to beat this guy"...lol
last point says it all :)
Chris is a smart TT player - must have been a good oppurtunity to play against He Zhi somone of such classic style
Good camera angle on this game. zhi gets some crazy angles on his serves and shots always taking balls off the bounce. However, some of his serves look suspect from this angle. Chris is playing too passive for Zhis style
Possibly, but if you try to attack him, you look even more of a berk! The only real answer is to be better than him, and not all that many are. I don't agree that his serves are illegal, by the way. We all develop habits and tics. I can't see that anything he does could be construed as giving him an unfair advantage. The ball looks to be visible at all times by the receiver.
Why doesn't He Zhi Wen remove his right arm when serving? Isn't it illegal?
He´s going to play Olympiad at Río for his 3rd time
How 2 make a really really good player look ordinary...
Zhi wen has Much better table tennis skills all around
chris looked truly hopeless against hzw
Жалко великана, все в одну калитку.
Chris should have played left handed
Not sure some of the serves are legit
When's serve is illegal, see my comment of 15/12/2108
Why is the umpire not enforcing rule 2.6.5, which He Zhi When is not complying with?
If I were Chris Doran, I would have asked the umpire to get the referee to adjudicate, as the umpire is clearly ignoring this rule.
God save us from UA-cam experts. The free arm doesn't appear to be in the way when seen from the front and at the receiver's height. The serve at 4.25 for example, looks perfectly OK. Not that I'd want to be on the receiving end of it. If umpires called every serve that didn't comply 100%, you'd never finish a game. No one, for instance, throws up off a flat palm, which is actually pretty hard to do. As long as they didn't appear to be trying to finger spin the ball, I wouldn't call it.
@@fanorydberg2424 Exactly. Also, imagine being a British League referee and deciding to call When for serving in a way that he never gets called for in top class international competition - isn't going to happen. He only has two basic serves anyway, so it doesn't matter if the arm is in the way. It's either hard and fast top-spin down the right-hander's backhand channel, or side spin to the forehand side. You can see which one is coming at the last second despite his arm. Getting it back is another matter entirely though!
Chris didn't have any trouble seeing the contact point of the serve, that's why there weren't any complaint. HZW contacted the ball at waist height but his free-arm was at chest height, so it did not block the view.
@@huynguyentien1504 If his arm was at chest height and the ball was struck at waist height, then the ball was not visible at all times, which is a requirement of the service rules. That's only one of the rules being ignored!