What a fantastic chapter with great use of narrative symmetry. Back during Volume 2 Monty talked about the symbolism of the Pumpkin Pete hoodie, and like the White Rabbit, Jaune took a watch and went back in time. It’s really apropos for Blake to receive a fairy tale confession since she arrived at Beacon with a jaded “unfortunately, the real world isn’t the same as a fairy tale" philosophy.
Best part of this? Blake and Yang were planned to end up together from the very beginning! Poor Barbara and Arryn had to keep it a secret for 10 years!
@@feIipeed As well as the recent podcast segment of Barbara and Arryn talking about specifically this moment they both said they knew about it for a long time, as well as the fact that even if it wasnt "Planned from s1" (which i personally doubt considering them undeniably setting up Sun s2-5) either way they have been planning it at LEAST since volume 6 its been slowly cookin which is an equally decent amount of seasons to build up. So yeah even if it wasnt from S1 it was def planned for a long time that much is confirmed at least
I'm not sure if you guys remember but another fantastic detail is that the opening song of Volume 7 also foreshadowed RWBY coming here, even mentioning the Ever After by name. As well as Blake and Yang not knowing where to turn to on the bridge and realising they had to tell the truth I'll put the lyrics to the OP Trust Love below in the replies:
Fun Facts Fact 1: This is the first episode in the series where the Opening was changed from its original version. Fact 2: This is the third episode to have a photosensitive warning, the others being "Ultimatum" and "Worthy". Fact 3: The episode's title refers to the Punderstorm as well as Blake and Yang confessing each other's romantic feelings. Fact 4: This episode aired on the same day as the WonderCon premiere of Justice League x RWBY: Super Heroes and Huntsmen, Part One. Fact 5: The first scene of the episode is a callback to the way "A Place of Particular Concern" began, this time in Jaune's perspective instead of Ruby's. Fact 6: The score when Weiss looks at Atlas falling is a direct callback to The Final Word Part II. Fact 7: When time rewinds for Jaune, several comets can be seen moving backwards across the sky, showing that he was actually the last one to arrive in Ever After rather than the first. Fact 8: While walking past floating water, Ruby's reflection is actually Summer Rose. Summer's hair is stylized in a rose shaped bun.
I could hear the joyful screams of all the shipper when it happened. Also, when I first heard Punder storm I imagined seeing lightning in the background but instead of hearing thunder we would hear Barbara's puns.
So the story i think said "The knight took the poison in her stead" i think this means that what was written was that Jaune was supposed to save Alyx from the poison but the truth was that Alyx was the poisoner so it caught him off guard
Writer and voice of Neptune, Kerry, has confirmed Jaune has been there for 10-20 years (corrected by @G1Fan). Time is truncated in Ever After. Jaune didn’t know he was going to be poisoned. The story that was written painted Alyx as a better person than she appeared to be to Jaune. Alyx and Lewis lived hundreds if not thousands of years ago. Their story may have crossed with Ozma’s but no one else we know.
@@Mrsalt7500 There's no logic to Ever After, so you can never say for sure, but if there is linear time dilation then at best 1 year in Ever After is 10 in Remnant. At worst it might be 1 in 100 or so. It all depends how long The Girl Who Fell Through the World took to become a 'classic' children's story, but Alice in Wonderland is (very) roughly 100 years old so I've been assuming that. So yeah, if Volume 9 takes place over three days (and again, only if Ever After days are roughly the same length), then a month will have passed in Remnant.
@@Andrew1990M yeah even if time is really fast in the ever after it wouldn't make much of a difference. We see at the end of this episode that they spend the night, and presumably this is the first night they have spent. That means they have been here for less than 2 days. Even if time was 100x faster in the Ever after that would still only be like 5 months. It's definitely *not* 100x more, since I doubt Alyx's time was like 1000 years ago, so we're closer to 10x is probably, or about a couple week time skip on Remnant.
@@lizard1255 I mean, considering the current state and stakes on remnant, a very long time skip would be too confusing as to “why hasn’t Salem won yet?”.
He's right though. There basically was no romantic development between Yang and Blake until chapter 6 when they jump-started it. That's why a certain portion of the viewership isn't liking it, because it's super unnatural and came totally out of left field, and seemed like a cave in to a very loud minority of fans that wanted them to be together. Her love interest has always been Sun if there ever was one. Besides Adam of course. Personally, I think even Ilia would have been a better candidate if they *really* wanted to put her in an homosexual relationship.
@Niitroxyde "Her love interest has always been sun" It was confirmed multiple times Bumblebee was planned since before they even aired season one. I know this is a year late but hope it helps
The callbacks this Volume is so satisfying, like the ones in this Chapter to Blake and Yang’s first meeting back in Volume 1 are splendid. Honest to god I think Alyx actually had a change of heart in the Tree, sacrificed herself to save Lewis. Lewis wrote the books and just left himself out of it and tried to make the story more about his sister to remember her fondly. And then Alyx ascended and became Little. Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland, plus the drawing of Alyx and the Cat rom the opening looks like it’d have been drawn from someone’s perspective. Her brother had a journal on him in the flashbacks. One of my friends did point out that there IS potential that Lewis turned out to be the actual evil sibling and betrayed Alyx but I'm not so sure. Or that Alyx stole the journal. But I’m pretty confident in my theory that she turned good at the last second and sacrificed herself to save Lewis. He’s definitely the actual writer any way it goes though. Also Lewis Carroll based his story on Alice Liddel (Little)
There was another character I thought Alex could potentially be now but, after reading your comment, I'm starting to switch and think she might be Little. Also in the OP the girls are following Alyx's lead much like how Little is their "guide".
Fun fact: the author of Alice in Wonderland was Lewis Carroll. With that in mind, do you think Alyx made it back and wrote a biased account of her adventures, or did Lewis make it back and rewrite the story to make his sister look better? Something to ponder.
I think with Jaune drinking the poison he didn't know it was poisoned...it would have been one of the details omitted from the story Alice wrote in the end so jaune wouldn't have known.😁
according to the rwby fandom, jaune has been there, waiting for people to fall, for 10-20 years. Dude was a young man, and now he is full grown. Also 22:09 Alex was supposed to drink the poison, not the Knight. She poisoned him, cause she lost all trust in him and wanted to get home no matter the cost.
@@lizard1255 listen, i looked it up, it was the first link and i took it and thats how i got my info. i know Kerry probably said it during a roundtable episode i think, and thats how the info was put onto the fandom.
10:22 Ruby's reflection is of her mother, Summer Rose. This will be important for later. Something spoiler-ish ahead I know it's probably too late, but everyone might want to minimize eye makeup for 9x7 and 9x8.
The point is that the story Alyx put out there wasn't true, way more than what she says happened. Jaune was following the story the way it was told by Alyx. Also, doesn't Yang's arm come with a vibrating function, for devastating attacks?
It's not hard logic. In history class you read that something major happened during world war 2. Then somehow you get transported back in time & you start realize that you were the one who caused that major event in World War 2. So, you read about yourself in History class, because your future is the past.
Huh, it’s quite interesting to see Bumblebee finally be Canon, I honestly thought it never would happen. However, i still wonder if it really had to take this long though.
Well, I already saw it coming that in the end those two will end up together although I never wanted to believe it and I prefer to erase it from my mind and if I could I would eliminate it from everywhere, from everyone's mind but anyway, The only thing left to do is make fanfics and stories where you can change all the sinful ships to hetero ships and straight self-shipping.
@@delcinrowe918 No. You really didn't pal. You chose that love... LOVE a universal sign of happiness would be one of your grievances and fears. That's rock bottom. You can be poor and homeless but still not be afraid of love.
@@blueblade6174 Dude Sun was introduced to be a link to Blakes past as a faunas and Adam, someone to follow her home. Yang was always planned as her love interest
@@matthewtope7439 The first real "feels" about the ship that I can remember are during the talk where Yang tries to persuade Blake to come to the dance (V2?). I think what spoiled it for alot of people was that the whole thing got a bit self-absorbed during V6-V8, to the point that Yang wasn't a very good sibling to Ruby during that period. Which of course, has _nasty_ blowback during V9. And then to compound it, there's no time in the 2nd half of the Volume for any character development, so Yang doesn't realize her faults and feels no guilt whatsoever.
I thought the Bumbleby scene was awful. The writers ground the progression of the story to a halt to put Blake and Yang in a plot device that is never seen before (or again) and forced them to tell (instead of show) multiple seasons worth of relationship development in 5 minutes. And in the most corny, on the nose, "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards" metaphor imaginable, too. I do not believe Bumbleby was the plan from the start because there's no way the writers could have fumbled something that was in the works for this long, this hard. They did a better job building Qrow/Clover, a pairing that wasn't canon and was never meant to be canon, in 1 volume than they did with Blake and Yang for the better part of a decade.
I mean come on guys, this is Rwby they are not Titans of Literature and writing here. The scene delivered a cute conflict that resulted in the characters finally confronting their feelings. Was it Deviod of Subtext? Sure, but it showed the two of them brought together mentally and physcially.
@@passdoutcouchpotatos The best thing VIZ could spend their money on would be increasing Episode times to 40-60min. And not let those dingleberries anywhere near the writer's room again for these last seasons. The second best thing would be to reboot and do the whole thing over from the start with 45min Eps.; new writers, and new voice actors.
*Yang and Blake flirting in Ever After for 5min*
Ever After: " I'm tired of this shit I'll do it canon"
“remember when we killed your toxic ex” lmaoo 😭😭
i really loved the bumbleby confession, so beautiful
What a fantastic chapter with great use of narrative symmetry. Back during Volume 2 Monty talked about the symbolism of the Pumpkin Pete hoodie, and like the White Rabbit, Jaune took a watch and went back in time. It’s really apropos for Blake to receive a fairy tale confession since she arrived at Beacon with a jaded “unfortunately, the real world isn’t the same as a fairy tale" philosophy.
I never even thought about that last part!
pure genius, if it was intentional, beautiful coincidence if not.
If Yang said "I wanna munch you my kitty kat" she would've grew wings 😂
BRUH
xD dude
This is the worst thing I have heard all week. Well done.
@@Merilirem my pleasure!
Another sublime detail is the 9 bridge plates which both of them stood on, symbolising the steps they’ve taken across their journey these 9 Volumes.
Best part of this? Blake and Yang were planned to end up together from the very beginning! Poor Barbara and Arryn had to keep it a secret for 10 years!
Where was this confirmed?
@@feIipeedalways open
@@feIipeedinterview from 2 years ago i think? Somewhere around vol 7
@@feIipeed As well as the recent podcast segment of Barbara and Arryn talking about specifically this moment they both said they knew about it for a long time, as well as the fact that even if it wasnt "Planned from s1" (which i personally doubt considering them undeniably setting up Sun s2-5) either way they have been planning it at LEAST since volume 6 its been slowly cookin which is an equally decent amount of seasons to build up. So yeah even if it wasnt from S1 it was def planned for a long time that much is confirmed at least
God that Blake and Yang moment was just such perfection, the music the visuals the emotion...was a a highlight of the series for sure.
The cheering at the Bumbleby confession/kiss made me so happy 🥰🥰🥰
I'm not sure if you guys remember but another fantastic detail is that the opening song of Volume 7 also foreshadowed RWBY coming here, even mentioning the Ever After by name. As well as Blake and Yang not knowing where to turn to on the bridge and realising they had to tell the truth I'll put the lyrics to the OP Trust Love below in the replies:
I just noticed Blake and Yang's eyes are each others respective colors.
Fun Facts
Fact 1: This is the first episode in the series where the Opening was changed from its original version.
Fact 2: This is the third episode to have a photosensitive warning, the others being "Ultimatum" and "Worthy".
Fact 3: The episode's title refers to the Punderstorm as well as Blake and Yang confessing each other's romantic feelings.
Fact 4: This episode aired on the same day as the WonderCon premiere of Justice League x RWBY: Super Heroes and Huntsmen, Part One.
Fact 5: The first scene of the episode is a callback to the way "A Place of Particular Concern" began, this time in Jaune's perspective instead of Ruby's.
Fact 6: The score when Weiss looks at Atlas falling is a direct callback to The Final Word Part II.
Fact 7: When time rewinds for Jaune, several comets can be seen moving backwards across the sky, showing that he was actually the last one to arrive in Ever After rather than the first.
Fact 8: While walking past floating water, Ruby's reflection is actually Summer Rose.
Summer's hair is stylized in a rose shaped bun.
I could hear the joyful screams of all the shipper when it happened. Also, when I first heard Punder storm I imagined seeing lightning in the background but instead of hearing thunder we would hear Barbara's puns.
So the story i think said "The knight took the poison in her stead" i think this means that what was written was that Jaune was supposed to save Alyx from the poison but the truth was that Alyx was the poisoner so it caught him off guard
Writer and voice of Neptune, Kerry, has confirmed Jaune has been there for 10-20 years (corrected by @G1Fan). Time is truncated in Ever After.
Jaune didn’t know he was going to be poisoned. The story that was written painted Alyx as a better person than she appeared to be to Jaune.
Alyx and Lewis lived hundreds if not thousands of years ago. Their story may have crossed with Ozma’s but no one else we know.
If that’s true, then there will definitely be a time skip by the time RWBY returns to remnant.
@@Mrsalt7500 There's no logic to Ever After, so you can never say for sure, but if there is linear time dilation then at best 1 year in Ever After is 10 in Remnant. At worst it might be 1 in 100 or so. It all depends how long The Girl Who Fell Through the World took to become a 'classic' children's story, but Alice in Wonderland is (very) roughly 100 years old so I've been assuming that.
So yeah, if Volume 9 takes place over three days (and again, only if Ever After days are roughly the same length), then a month will have passed in Remnant.
@@Andrew1990M yeah even if time is really fast in the ever after it wouldn't make much of a difference. We see at the end of this episode that they spend the night, and presumably this is the first night they have spent. That means they have been here for less than 2 days. Even if time was 100x faster in the Ever after that would still only be like 5 months. It's definitely *not* 100x more, since I doubt Alyx's time was like 1000 years ago, so we're closer to 10x is probably, or about a couple week time skip on Remnant.
It was 10-20 years. Not 20-30.
@@lizard1255 I mean, considering the current state and stakes on remnant, a very long time skip would be too confusing as to “why hasn’t Salem won yet?”.
Holy shit, mickey with the literal "they were roomates" ahahaha *woosh*
He's right though. There basically was no romantic development between Yang and Blake until chapter 6 when they jump-started it. That's why a certain portion of the viewership isn't liking it, because it's super unnatural and came totally out of left field, and seemed like a cave in to a very loud minority of fans that wanted them to be together.
Her love interest has always been Sun if there ever was one. Besides Adam of course.
Personally, I think even Ilia would have been a better candidate if they *really* wanted to put her in an homosexual relationship.
@@Niitroxyde yuck, bad opinion. don't talk to me
@@joshmetz3646 Okay ?... What a weird reply.
@Niitroxyde "Her love interest has always been sun"
It was confirmed multiple times Bumblebee was planned since before they even aired season one.
I know this is a year late but hope it helps
The callbacks this Volume is so satisfying, like the ones in this Chapter to Blake and Yang’s first meeting back in Volume 1 are splendid. Honest to god I think Alyx actually had a change of heart in the Tree, sacrificed herself to save Lewis. Lewis wrote the books and just left himself out of it and tried to make the story more about his sister to remember her fondly. And then Alyx ascended and became Little. Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland, plus the drawing of Alyx and the Cat rom the opening looks like it’d have been drawn from someone’s perspective. Her brother had a journal on him in the flashbacks. One of my friends did point out that there IS potential that Lewis turned out to be the actual evil sibling and betrayed Alyx but I'm not so sure. Or that Alyx stole the journal. But I’m pretty confident in my theory that she turned good at the last second and sacrificed herself to save Lewis. He’s definitely the actual writer any way it goes though. Also Lewis Carroll based his story on Alice Liddel (Little)
Clever
There was another character I thought Alex could potentially be now but, after reading your comment, I'm starting to switch and think she might be Little. Also in the OP the girls are following Alyx's lead much like how Little is their "guide".
10 years of slow burn paid offff
A great detail in this episode were the beams of light that shot in the sky when time reversed. Those four lights were Ruby, Weiss, Yang and Blake
Fun fact: the author of Alice in Wonderland was Lewis Carroll. With that in mind, do you think Alyx made it back and wrote a biased account of her adventures, or did Lewis make it back and rewrite the story to make his sister look better? Something to ponder.
This is genius and so interesting
May the Jaune simping commence. Let your hair grow ma dudes, works wonders.
What if you can’t let your hair grow? 😅
@@RatedDForDerp I…….I am sorry..my friend…………..(sad recorder Titanic song)
The long hair trend started with Eren from AoT and Jaune is keeping it alive😂
@@Mrsalt7500 *salutes with my receding hair as I slowly sink into the cold Atlantic Ocean waters* Live on men!
Bumblebee has always been the plan, and I personally started picking up on the signs in Volume 2. It's been a very long time in the making...
U know blake and yang were trying to swallow each other whole for a solid 5 min before the rest got there 😅
I think with Jaune drinking the poison he didn't know it was poisoned...it would have been one of the details omitted from the story Alice wrote in the end so jaune wouldn't have known.😁
been waiting 7 years to see yang and blake finally confess
Weiss: I have been falling for 30 minutes!
The comedy in this volume is probably my favorite 😂😂
according to the rwby fandom, jaune has been there, waiting for people to fall, for 10-20 years. Dude was a young man, and now he is full grown. Also 22:09 Alex was supposed to drink the poison, not the Knight. She poisoned him, cause she lost all trust in him and wanted to get home no matter the cost.
Not according to fandom, according to Kerry, one of the writers of the show. It's not just a fanon thing.
@@lizard1255 listen, i looked it up, it was the first link and i took it and thats how i got my info. i know Kerry probably said it during a roundtable episode i think, and thats how the info was put onto the fandom.
Fucking waited for this shit so long i was so excited for you guys to get to this goddamn episode aaaaaah good shit
I was excited for Blake and Yang that I was clapping so much
Here (0/26/23) thanks for all of your RWBY reactions ❤ ❤
LOVE THESE REACTIONS KEEP IT GOING !! 🖤🖤🖤
10:22 Ruby's reflection is of her mother, Summer Rose. This will be important for later. Something spoiler-ish ahead
I know it's probably too late, but everyone might want to minimize eye makeup for 9x7 and 9x8.
Bumbleby
The Curious Cat 🔷😼🟪
Through the power of love, all gay it's possible!!!
Bruh why's that dude always talking about sex and stuff. A super sweet romantic scene, and can't eenjoy it cause red's crackin weird jokes
Lewis, as in Lewis Carroll, the original author of Alice In Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. I see you, CRWBY.
Oh hey! You guys got to see it!
Yeah I can't wait fory y'all to see the next episode it goes hard
13:38 This was my thought, as well, Suraj, but I didn't have it until Chapter 7...
Well now that all the ships have sailed I need to recommend a fanmanga called rwby hereafter it's not cannon but it's as good as the actually story
I’ve never been a fan of bumble bee but I like how they did this it was dope
we are all Mikey in this episode 15:31
Watching this chapter in hindsight is funny
Hopefully there not confused by what comes next but something tells me they will lol
Samurai Jack back to the past 🎶
Yous missed Summer in ruby reflection 🪞
The point is that the story Alyx put out there wasn't true, way more than what she says happened. Jaune was following the story the way it was told by Alyx. Also, doesn't Yang's arm come with a vibrating function, for devastating attacks?
16:19 *YEEESSSSSS!!!*
I love you guys.
Please keep mikey off of the next season and limit it too 3-4 people.
It's not hard logic. In history class you read that something major happened during world war 2. Then somehow you get transported back in time & you start realize that you were the one who caused that major event in World War 2. So, you read about yourself in History class, because your future is the past.
Not many people seem to know about it, but try looking at RWBY X DC!
16:38 in a minute, I’m need a, sentimental, man or woman, to pump me up 😝
Oh so this is how patreon works. Sweet
Why did you guys skip the intro?
Because of copyright
They skipped the intro on the episode the intro changed
They shoul've watched this episodes intro
Huh, it’s quite interesting to see Bumblebee finally be Canon, I honestly thought it never would happen.
However, i still wonder if it really had to take this long though.
Ever heard of a Slow Burn Romance?
@@YukiiSahashi hm, I think so, but I am not sure.
Finally!!!!!
I hope you continue RWBY volume 9 episode 7&8 before finale
Not many people seem to know about it, but can you guys react to RWBY X DC?
RWBY x justice league movie very coming
Eww they kissed; how simply terrific.
"oh no, cringe" this episode really was just a ship episode lol
Well, I already saw it coming that in the end those two will end up together although I never wanted to believe it and I prefer to erase it from my mind and if I could I would eliminate it from everywhere, from everyone's mind but anyway, The only thing left to do is make fanfics and stories where you can change all the sinful ships to hetero ships and straight self-shipping.
Of all the things in this world to be afraid of you choose love. That's rock bottom
@@levisstories7733 Nope, I hit rock bottom a long time ago before being homophobic towards lesbians.
@@delcinrowe918 No. You really didn't pal. You chose that love... LOVE a universal sign of happiness would be one of your grievances and fears. That's rock bottom.
You can be poor and homeless but still not be afraid of love.
@@levisstories7733 meh 👾
After this episode u guys get to see Homophobic Ruby Rose its really funny
Everyone just forgot about Black Sun.
Black Sun was never the plan. Even Sun said it was never about romance back in season 6.
@@wakkiwitch it clearly was
@@blueblade6174 Dude Sun was introduced to be a link to Blakes past as a faunas and Adam, someone to follow her home.
Yang was always planned as her love interest
@@levisstories7733 cap
@@blueblade6174 You can find the interviews ans tweets. It's been confirmed by the writers and cast that Bumblebee was planned since season 1
i still think the ship is bad but im shocked at how well they did it in *only* this season, surprisingly very well done
I think the ship peaked in volume 2 but it wasn’t as big then
It's been there since season 1, as Monty said, romance should be earned.
@@matthewtope7439 that’s never been confirmed, I’m fine with Bumblebee but this is just a rumor that people ran with
@@Ethan-nl2wg CRWBY have confirmed it, but I get that people may doubt them. I'm happy to believe them, but fair enough if others don't.
@@matthewtope7439 The first real "feels" about the ship that I can remember are during the talk where Yang tries to persuade Blake to come to the dance (V2?). I think what spoiled it for alot of people was that the whole thing got a bit self-absorbed during V6-V8, to the point that Yang wasn't a very good sibling to Ruby during that period. Which of course, has _nasty_ blowback during V9. And then to compound it, there's no time in the 2nd half of the Volume for any character development, so Yang doesn't realize her faults and feels no guilt whatsoever.
I thought the Bumbleby scene was awful. The writers ground the progression of the story to a halt to put Blake and Yang in a plot device that is never seen before (or again) and forced them to tell (instead of show) multiple seasons worth of relationship development in 5 minutes. And in the most corny, on the nose, "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards" metaphor imaginable, too. I do not believe Bumbleby was the plan from the start because there's no way the writers could have fumbled something that was in the works for this long, this hard. They did a better job building Qrow/Clover, a pairing that wasn't canon and was never meant to be canon, in 1 volume than they did with Blake and Yang for the better part of a decade.
I mean come on guys, this is Rwby they are not Titans of Literature and writing here. The scene delivered a cute conflict that resulted in the characters finally confronting their feelings. Was it Deviod of Subtext? Sure, but it showed the two of them brought together mentally and physcially.
@@passdoutcouchpotatos The best thing VIZ could spend their money on would be increasing Episode times to 40-60min. And not let those dingleberries anywhere near the writer's room again for these last seasons. The second best thing would be to reboot and do the whole thing over from the start with 45min Eps.; new writers, and new voice actors.