Surfer is so versatile. This channel is really mind boggling . None of Surfer hacks could work? Sups has a need to solar radiation and huge weakness to kryptonite. Surfer can just drain Sups of yellow sun radiation.
I’m sorry but there’s no way that Superman can beat the Silver Surfer. Supes doesn’t have cosmic awareness so he won’t fully grasp just how powerful Surfer is.
@@imbangmaynn5705 cosmic awareness is the ability to know everything that’s going on in the universe. You can automatically know what’s your opponent’s weaknesses are and what’s going on on the other side of the cosmos.
@@Therock007dmx yes i know, that's why i didn't say he had it just something similar to it. In the end it wouldn't really help much since Supes has shown that if motivated enough, and if he didn't surpress himself, he could overcome those weaknesses. Take mordrew, he blasted superman with the power of a universe behind it andnthat was magic, if supes didn't have any restances to it surely he should've died right? But nah. He flew through a red star before but wasn't robbed completely of bis powers. He was exposed to kryptonite before but was still able to fight. Thing is the theta state is also something that gives him an enormous advantage of, summoning versions of himself (the powers) would just eliminate the weaknesses as he has done before. Supes against Dominus used the power of pre crisis, one million, and kingdom come to ignore the effects of kryptonite on him. When amped by multiple stars he was also able to one shot the world forger and the shockwave cleared out the perfect infinite multiverse he was working on. The feats superman has is actually the most consistent of any superhero on that level despite harboring a few outliers much like everyone else. Over 64+ feats counted him to be universal++ in his most surpressed state. I don't think surfer could beat that
Silver Surfer all day, draining, energy manipulation, not close, bad match up for Superman. Being a concept of hope doesn’t trump feats, the Blue Lantern are hope related individuals, they don’t beat Norrin, feat wise Norrin wins clearly.
U mean how thor incapacitated surfer in 3 separate battles? Surfer isn't as tough as we thought. His best feats are massive power amps that take a very long time. Also thor beat galactus. Surfer and galactus are chumps noe.
@mel-el5862 yall bring up Thor but leave out all the context. MJOLNIR NULLIFIES THE POWER COSMIC. superman has nothing that could nullify the power cosmic. Not to mention Thor would curbstomp superman too. Dan Jurgens a writer for Superman even stated superman would lose due to Thors divine magic. Superman got slammed by enchantress. He stans 0 chance against Thors magical hammer and magical lightning.
I think the surfer takes it because of his energy and matter manipulation he could instantly use every one of his weaknesses against him like kryptonite and red sun radiation or drain the radiation from a yellow sun from his body like he did to hulk
Personally I think surfer wins just due to his hacks the fact he can exploit his weaknesses is a big deal and this really will just come down to the writer but honestly I’ve gotta side with surfer
@@Bgs_Vndl no the thing is he can’t get past the fact he can exploit every weakness your just saying that based off I like Superman surfer wins pretty easily Superman is more of a team fighter and writers draw him to be a great hero but just looking at it on paper regardless of feats surfer bodies him surfer gets his power from an entity and Superman is just an alien big diff man
Ooo you don't know supermsn... The so called weakness for supernan is just a mental barrier.. Once he gets adapted to the energy he can just absorb anything just like surfer.. Magic can weaken him.. But once he adapts to it.. It's walk in the park
Danco did this already, but I do think that The Surfer wins. The only heroes that can really beat him decisively are Dr. Fate, and I lose the word hero VERY loosely here but, The Spectre!
Not completely true Dr.Doom mops the floor with Surfer but thats because Doom is so smart he identified Surfers power signature and his tech behind his powers is far beyond the abilities of simple power identification since half his technology is magic hybrid. Even Tony Stark cant touch Dr. Doom. Not many people can beat Dr. Doom.
@@matthewschwartz6607 No man I love the Surfer but Doom has flat out beaten him with no prep in a cold open before. Just one example is the beginning of the 90s infinity gauntlet, Doom enters Surfer threatens Doom and Doom is like whatever bitch and puts him down. When he first encountered Surfer he created a cosmic power drain devices which is now standard issue in his armor, which is also why he defeated Molecule Man and The Beyonder.
You forgot Dr. Manhattan who is like the Beyonder of DC because he came from another Universe which is the Watchman Universe.. Also Amazo from Justice League Unlimited can defeat Surfer easily.. He is like Protege of DC..
It’s a toss up. Superman places limits on his powers to cause less harm. He has been able to seal tears in space, destroy a universe with a sneeze, fought an evil version of himself and every punch caused an alteration in the space/time continuum. Silver Surfer has the ability to create force fields, absorb energy from other characters, can survive black holes, and only needs cosmic energy to survive. However, Silver Surfer is a pacifist and thus is not a very competent fighter. If it were where Silver Surfer is the villain, he would be able to exploit Superman’s limiting his powers to his advantage. Thus he would likely gain the victory. If Superman is the villain, he would remove those limits and his abilities exponentially, and who knows what he could do then. He has shown extra abilities from time to time. Thus he would likely pull off the victory. If they are fighting each other as good guys, chances are it would be a back and forth battle until they realize they were tricked into fighting each other and then go after whoever caused it. They would make the ultimate team up since there wouldn’t be many who stand against them. That’s my analysis.
Dude DC fans are unreal. Notice none of them tell us how supes wins. Just that he does. This was doomed from the jump. Somebody said Superman is faster. It's actually insane.
I agree.. Thanos always defeats Silver Surfer in comics even without the Infinity Gaunlet.. Darkseid is stronger than Thanos.. Superman fights toe to toe with Darkseid and even beats him in several instances.. Thus, Superman beats Silver Surfer here.. Supes has also beaten the world forger who is one of the sons of Perpetua.. Superman Wins!!!
You didn't just horse shot the world forger he destroyed the Multiverse the world forger Was preparing to use to overwrite his own. Also there wasn't enough sunlight to sustain Superman's normal level power it was just enough to keep him alive. Edison alive in the vacuum of space but not enough power to fly off of the planet toy he was on which had a bunch of Superman corpses from Superman that had tried to escape the planet toy but used up all the power that they had stored up and could no longer survive the environment. I still don't understand how Superman survive that one but yeah
Shhhhh please stop being biased metallo has prove to be a pain in the neck for supes, red sun radiation and yellow kyptonite has taken supermans powers away before so whats your point
Good video I figured Superman would win but Silver Surfer did way better than I thought he would. I would like to see you do Superman vs Hulk again cause even though you did it before where the Hulk won. I want to see if the results will still be the same or different this time.
@@captainforest yeah it would be interesting because like you said dc has gotten some upgrades but Hulk has gotten stronger too so I think it be a really interesting fight
The only thing I have to say in this is that Surfer in his fight with galdiator 1 of marvels close supermans he stated they were dead even and needed a boost from Ego the living planet. To me this alone says Surfer loses to a current superman who is Hope Surfer doesnt have this level. The lead up to the fight it was made to look like Surfur would have no problem even saying he can use a weakness on Gladiator and he almost loses the fight. Talking pass time like backin the 90s where superman was not as powerful as he is now I would think SUrfure pulls then win at that point.. but not vrs a current superman who alos has been given all feats made cannon to him so superman blue neggates every power Surfer could use.
If you look at both cosmologies, what does Silver Surfer represent to Marvel and what does Superman represent to DC? It’s truly difficult to quantify this vs battle as both have performed some ridiculous feats plus their transcendences overall. However, Superman represents “HOPE” within the DC cosmology, and that is a very very very hard concept to defeat/erase making Superman almost unbeatable.
@@thekingant2726 Thank you for your comment. You are partially correct - some characters that represent certain concepts do not necessarily trump "certain" feats; however, transcendence(s) definitely do. For example, within a dimensional tiering system, a 3D/4D being will always be inferior to a 5D being. When it comes to Superman, The representation of "HOPE" within the DC cosmology is very complex as he represents an overall "narrative" conceptual symbol in DC comics plus some of his feats are just ridiculous - you can make an argument that he is one of the golden standards in DC and the comic world making him very hard to destroy. Anyway good topic!
@@ENGTech867 I get where you are going with this, and all of what said sounds great, but being an archetype doesn’t trump raw feats, Norrin can drain him like the solar battery.
@@thekingant2726 BLue lanterns are not the concept of hope they use the emotional spectum of hope and that mostly is healing and buffs to the other rings. so yes easy to beat for the most part..Just like green lanterns are not the concept of will.
@@thekingant2726 Superman has fought and beaten several energy drainiers and not one has won in a fight using that the biggest was death it lost wraith lost as well and he started the fight and the scan used in that fight was a 1 for 1 hulk vs surfer drain and Wraith still lost he alos blasted superman with red solar energy and even turned his body into green kryptonight and still lost. using his weaknessess are never a complete in the bag win he has over came them many times and going off how much power ups superman has been given he is past anything Surfer can deal with right now. Surfer even stated in his fight with gladiator he was evenly matched and almost lost only after Ego gave surfer a boost did he win and gladiator is not superman he is a weaker version.
Hmmmm I was thinking that if Darkseid could easily just swat away, silver surfer and Superman can beat up Darkseid occasionally then I figured that it will kind of be kind of be easy and simple.
Surfer wins due to his better control over his cosmic powers. Superman has really surface level control of his powers but the Silver Surfer has shown multiple times he can not only see the molecular weaknesses in an organic being or structure but can change this similar to the way molecule man does. He was able to reverse the Gamma reaction in Bruce Banner to bring him back from being the Hulk, vs an Elder of the Universe a Godlike Being he modified his weaponry into being all but useless. Now Superman has a vital weakness that the Surfer will immediately see and would simply just make Kryptonite radiation. So not only could he easily defeat Superman but he could also easily defeat Superboy Prime since the different radiation signatures from each type of Kryptonite wont effect the outcome one way or another he can make either or. But this is only one way Surfer could defeat Supes as I think he has many options in this fight.
@@mel-el5862 No he is not at best he is able to do some basic sauce level telekinesis which he barely uses. While Surfers ability to manipulate his powers are on the level of Molecule man.
@@Mollikar surfer failed to beat thor 3 times. He's not on molecule man's level at all. He also tends to job more than anyone in marvel. Supes beat thor so supes>>>thor>>surfer.
@@mel-el5862 DC writers already had Surfer easily beat Superman even they agree to that. Surfer and Thor have fought in 12 cannon fights with Thor Edgin him out 3 times once with an infinity Gem. But most writers agree Thor would not only Crush Superman but also Superboy Prime. Surfer does Job alot lately so does the Hulk and Thor as well, modern feminist writers just dont like them so I take that with a grain of salt. Sometimes its a matchup of powers problem Dr. Doom hand almost everyone their ass. I have long argued that Superman will beat Hulk but Hulk will beat the ever loving hell out of Doomsday.
I think a better fight would be PRE-CRISIS Superman vs The Surfer! Didn’t PC Supes sneeze out a solar system or something? I read that he was like crazy powerful.
Kryptonite Eye Beams?!?! Yeah, Cosmic awareness causes a Cosmic level Herald to come up with ideas like that. The fight ends quick! Surfer by a eternity!!!
I see the surfer using his cosmic awareness to learn Superman's weaknesses. Then he could radiate kryptonite and blast Superman with kryptonite energy. If Superman could fall to The likes of Black Adam, I don't see him overcoming Norin Radd.
SS transmutes Sup’s suit into Kryptonite, drains him of solar radiation, Blasts him with red solar radiation… But it wouldn’t get to that. Surfer wouldn’t want to fight. He’d get beaten down a lot. Give Superman some licks, then they’d find common ground and become more or less friendly.
So there are two questions here. Can Surfer generate kryptonite radiation, or just summon up a big pile of kryptonite? Yes. Will Surfer's weird senses and cosmic awareness allow him to realize he should do it? Maybe.
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The silver surfer has no exploitable weaknesses and he will know superman's as soon as he detects with cosmic awareness that would be as enters the universe
I don’t see the point of focusing all the high end feats, or all the low end feats because they skew the perspective of the regular character. I think a breakdown is best served by look at their standard makeup.
U KNOW. THEY DID A STORY WITH SM&SS WERE THEY TEAM UP. TO HELP EACH OTHER. IT'S WAS GOOD... BOTTOM LINE. SS IS TO POWERFUL FOR SM. HE CAN DO THINGS THAT'S SM CAN'T DO...
Silver surfer as his stats are just as if not better. faster, more durable and has regenerated from practically nothing. Silversurfer seeing in light/energy like he does to find planets for glactus. Has the power to absorb and manipulate energy. The basic of surfers would beat almost the best of supermans. But worthy one shotted cosmic surfer
The story of superman is pretty important for Marvel Comics as several characters were made based on Superman.. Several marvel superman copycats include Sentry, Blue Marvel, Gladiator, Hyperion, and even that Character from Eternals.. Even Stan Lee said that they made Thor in the 60s for the reason that Thor is Superman's Counterpart in Marvel..
Superman is way stronger and faster, but the power of comic is just stupid, he can turn intangible so raw strength is useless, he can absorb and drain energy meaning unless they are fighting in the middle of a sun superman is powerless and finally the surfer can use the power of cosmic to manipulate matter so giving superman a golden kryptonite suit is something he can do.
Silver surfer can phase into superman an change his heart to kyptonite and kill him , or absorb the yellow sun from superman , like he absorb the gamma radiation from hulk an made him human again .
It really isn't a fare fight. Surfer can pull all the yellow sun radiation out of Superman. This is one of those fights where Superman is strong than his opponent but his opponent is too versatile.
SS has way too many abilities that he could throw at SM,, SS could easily deduce SM's weakness to the big K,and replicate it through the power cosmic,he could also generate red sun light or drive SM insane somehow. SS wins 9/10
and yet in his fight with Gladiator who had a simuler weakness he almost lost and even stated himself in the fight they were too evenly matched surfer needed a boost from Ego just to win. And Gladiator is not as powerful as superman. SUperman has also beaten alll of his weakness in fights iinculding energy drain matter in fact energy drain has never lead to him losing.. Power stealing like rogue has or parasyte. But in his fight with wraith alone he was hit with all his weaknesses and he still beat wraith. and this was N52 he is even ore powerful then he was then.. Surfer has lost to many fights with KOs from people with less AP then superman. I see this as current superman he has no way to beat as he has all feats ever in his continuity.. But you take a supermn from like the 90s and have them fight surfer would and should win that.. but vrs current superman 0% as he would even have feats of superman blue as it has been stated all versions and feats are now cannon too him on top of being hope of DC the concept of it.
Huh????? Because Superman can get pass the source wall that’s another reason why you’re saying that he can beat Silver Surfer???? Superman can get past the source wall, but then again gets OUTSMARTED by THE BATMAN???? Please make it make sense🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Great fight my guy ! I agree Superman is too much for SS in the end. By the way in your opinion who is strong enough to beat Superman 1v1 ? I seen one by this other UA-camr but I disagree with many he said tbh.
Man are you smoking surfer has cosmic awareness it wouldn't take a second for surfer to realize that supes is powered by yellow sun rays he would cancel that out an stomp supes
You're using feats from tons of different variants of Superman, and using only 616 for surfer. Barely even an argument here cause idk which superman he's supposed to be fighting here. Better way to do this would be pitting each superman against surfer in separate one on one battles. New 52 definitely loses, and the others pretty much all win, some easier than others
If you actually read dc. You would know new 52 and post crisis are one in the same if you read dark knight metal. The fact you don’t know that tells me all i need to know and that is to discard and ignore your garbage take.
Could you pleas tell the comics these feats happen in because the quality of the scans in your video aren’t so easy to see because it’s kinda blurry? I would like to see that scan about lex luthor being stronger than the entire dark army combined that could really be useful to me
Surfer beats Superman easily,power drain or simply create Kryptanite. His knowledge is too vast ,it's a cosmic being. Surfer can one shot the sun ,this sounds fan boyish
Silver Surfer is way more powerful than Superman way more versatile than Superman go anywhere in the universe with Nick and not go anywhere in the universe without the yellow sun so please stop it Subway Surfers way more public and stop them with just a flick of his finger once he realized he needs solar energy Superman Silver Surfer to cut him off and that's our source Easley stop it
SM&SS R NOT THE G.D. SAME. YES BOTH R AILEN S. WITH GREAT POWER. BUT THEY DIFFERENT IN SO MANT WAYS... SM CAN BLEED&B HURT... EVER SEEN THE MOVIE SM-2...
Yeah Superman is vulnerable to kryptonite, but there has also been an occasion he has overcome it. To be sincere, I like Silver Surfer a lot. He's powerful to drain energies and make it his own, cosmic awareness, Energy manipulation and others. But don't forget Superman is super intelligent and this make him also aware of his weakness and how to deal with it,as he can also overcome it if he want as he did in the sandman saga. Again, if you are not aware of this, Superman is a cosmic energy booster with no limits. That's why is always holding back. I think, both are evenly match. But if I am to side, I will say Superman wins.
Surfer has no weaknesses..Superman does..only a stupid Surfer would lose to Superman.
Surfer is so versatile. This channel is really mind boggling . None of Surfer hacks could work? Sups has a need to solar radiation and huge weakness to kryptonite. Surfer can just drain Sups of yellow sun radiation.
I’m sorry but there’s no way that Superman can beat the Silver Surfer. Supes doesn’t have cosmic awareness so he won’t fully grasp just how powerful Surfer is.
The term isn't in dc but he's done something similar before. He remade the miracle machine, after glancing at it once
@@imbangmaynn5705 cosmic awareness is the ability to know everything that’s going on in the universe. You can automatically know what’s your opponent’s weaknesses are and what’s going on on the other side of the cosmos.
@@Therock007dmx yes i know, that's why i didn't say he had it just something similar to it. In the end it wouldn't really help much since Supes has shown that if motivated enough, and if he didn't surpress himself, he could overcome those weaknesses. Take mordrew, he blasted superman with the power of a universe behind it andnthat was magic, if supes didn't have any restances to it surely he should've died right? But nah.
He flew through a red star before but wasn't robbed completely of bis powers.
He was exposed to kryptonite before but was still able to fight.
Thing is the theta state is also something that gives him an enormous advantage of, summoning versions of himself (the powers) would just eliminate the weaknesses as he has done before.
Supes against Dominus used the power of pre crisis, one million, and kingdom come to ignore the effects of kryptonite on him.
When amped by multiple stars he was also able to one shot the world forger and the shockwave cleared out the perfect infinite multiverse he was working on.
The feats superman has is actually the most consistent of any superhero on that level despite harboring a few outliers much like everyone else. Over 64+ feats counted him to be universal++ in his most surpressed state. I don't think surfer could beat that
I agree. Silver surfer would just replicate the energy of a red sun. Game over
Agreed
Silver Surfer all day, draining, energy manipulation, not close, bad match up for Superman.
Being a concept of hope doesn’t trump feats, the Blue Lantern are hope related individuals, they don’t beat Norrin, feat wise Norrin wins clearly.
Silver surfer for me, because people only like to highlight the jobber moments but when the plot is in his favour it's a different story
U mean how thor incapacitated surfer in 3 separate battles?
Surfer isn't as tough as we thought. His best feats are massive power amps that take a very long time. Also thor beat galactus. Surfer and galactus are chumps noe.
@mel-el5862 yall bring up Thor but leave out all the context. MJOLNIR NULLIFIES THE POWER COSMIC. superman has nothing that could nullify the power cosmic. Not to mention Thor would curbstomp superman too. Dan Jurgens a writer for Superman even stated superman would lose due to Thors divine magic. Superman got slammed by enchantress. He stans 0 chance against Thors magical hammer and magical lightning.
I think the surfer takes it because of his energy and matter manipulation he could instantly use every one of his weaknesses against him like kryptonite and red sun radiation or drain the radiation from a yellow sun from his body like he did to hulk
Marvel and dc characters always have hidden higher end feats
Right because most people don't seem to bring some of these feats up in debates
great video and scaling
Personally I think surfer wins just due to his hacks the fact he can exploit his weaknesses is a big deal and this really will just come down to the writer but honestly I’ve gotta side with surfer
How? Because you like him better? Superman has him beat in almost every category idk how anybody would side with SS.
@@Bgs_Vndl no the thing is he can’t get past the fact he can exploit every weakness your just saying that based off I like Superman surfer wins pretty easily Superman is more of a team fighter and writers draw him to be a great hero but just looking at it on paper regardless of feats surfer bodies him surfer gets his power from an entity and Superman is just an alien big diff man
@@godkingbosssavage7877it doesn’t matter where they get there power from
@@godkingbosssavage7877 yet still gets slapped by gladiator like supes he’s “just” an alien
Ooo you don't know supermsn... The so called weakness for supernan is just a mental barrier.. Once he gets adapted to the energy he can just absorb anything just like surfer.. Magic can weaken him.. But once he adapts to it.. It's walk in the park
This DC/Marvel match up is pretty epic.
The energy drain would be the difference maker the parasite did it so Surfer would be able to do it on a higher level.
Surfer wins, he can manipulate matter and energy, he can change energy to make kryptonite around, can absorb the radiaton from Superman
This might be the closest matchup that you have talked about
Once surfer find out his weakness (which will be milliseconds) there's nothing supermo can do once he materialize kryptonite.
Danco did this already, but I do think that The Surfer wins. The only heroes that can really beat him decisively are Dr. Fate, and I lose the word hero VERY loosely here but, The Spectre!
Not completely true Dr.Doom mops the floor with Surfer but thats because Doom is so smart he identified Surfers power signature and his tech behind his powers is far beyond the abilities of simple power identification since half his technology is magic hybrid. Even Tony Stark cant touch Dr. Doom. Not many people can beat Dr. Doom.
@@Mollikar - But Doom is a villain. And he really only beat him because of trickery and cunning .
@@matthewschwartz6607 No man I love the Surfer but Doom has flat out beaten him with no prep in a cold open before. Just one example is the beginning of the 90s infinity gauntlet, Doom enters Surfer threatens Doom and Doom is like whatever bitch and puts him down. When he first encountered Surfer he created a cosmic power drain devices which is now standard issue in his armor, which is also why he defeated Molecule Man and The Beyonder.
You forgot Dr. Manhattan who is like the Beyonder of DC because he came from another Universe which is the Watchman Universe.. Also Amazo from Justice League Unlimited can defeat Surfer easily.. He is like Protege of DC..
Silver Surfer all day long. No stalemate.
It’s a toss up. Superman places limits on his powers to cause less harm. He has been able to seal tears in space, destroy a universe with a sneeze, fought an evil version of himself and every punch caused an alteration in the space/time continuum.
Silver Surfer has the ability to create force fields, absorb energy from other characters, can survive black holes, and only needs cosmic energy to survive. However, Silver Surfer is a pacifist and thus is not a very competent fighter.
If it were where Silver Surfer is the villain, he would be able to exploit Superman’s limiting his powers to his advantage. Thus he would likely gain the victory.
If Superman is the villain, he would remove those limits and his abilities exponentially, and who knows what he could do then. He has shown extra abilities from time to time. Thus he would likely pull off the victory.
If they are fighting each other as good guys, chances are it would be a back and forth battle until they realize they were tricked into fighting each other and then go after whoever caused it. They would make the ultimate team up since there wouldn’t be many who stand against them.
That’s my analysis.
He actually said superman would win with the power of hope????? Unbelievable!!!!!
Dude DC fans are unreal. Notice none of them tell us how supes wins. Just that he does. This was doomed from the jump. Somebody said Superman is faster. It's actually insane.
Lol yea hope and change lol 😅😂
I agree.. Thanos always defeats Silver Surfer in comics even without the Infinity Gaunlet.. Darkseid is stronger than Thanos.. Superman fights toe to toe with Darkseid and even beats him in several instances.. Thus, Superman beats Silver Surfer here.. Supes has also beaten the world forger who is one of the sons of Perpetua.. Superman Wins!!!
Silver surfer surpasses him in every aspect there are no outs for Superman. No plot armor super man is losing and it want be close
Superman vs Darkest knight
You didn't just horse shot the world forger he destroyed the Multiverse the world forger Was preparing to use to overwrite his own. Also there wasn't enough sunlight to sustain Superman's normal level power it was just enough to keep him alive. Edison alive in the vacuum of space but not enough power to fly off of the planet toy he was on which had a bunch of Superman corpses from Superman that had tried to escape the planet toy but used up all the power that they had stored up and could no longer survive the environment. I still don't understand how Superman survive that one but yeah
He didn't. One did. The rest didn't survive. But let DC tell it that's just how powerful Superman is
Silver surfer wins because he can drain Superman solar energy he was able to drain gamma radiation from hulk easy
I’m sorry but you seriously think superman hasn’t faced people with those same abilities? Lmfao
Shhhhh please stop being biased metallo has prove to be a pain in the neck for supes, red sun radiation and yellow kyptonite has taken supermans powers away before so whats your point
Good video I figured Superman would win but Silver Surfer did way better than I thought he would.
I would like to see you do Superman vs Hulk again cause even though you did it before where the Hulk won.
I want to see if the results will still be the same or different this time.
Thank you, yeah, definitely need to redo that match up with the upgrades dc has gotten
@@captainforest yeah it would be interesting because like you said dc has gotten some upgrades but Hulk has gotten stronger too so I think it be a really interesting fight
The only thing I have to say in this is that Surfer in his fight with galdiator 1 of marvels close supermans he stated they were dead even and needed a boost from Ego the living planet. To me this alone says Surfer loses to a current superman who is Hope Surfer doesnt have this level. The lead up to the fight it was made to look like Surfur would have no problem even saying he can use a weakness on Gladiator and he almost loses the fight. Talking pass time like backin the 90s where superman was not as powerful as he is now I would think SUrfure pulls then win at that point.. but not vrs a current superman who alos has been given all feats made cannon to him so superman blue neggates every power Surfer could use.
If you look at both cosmologies, what does Silver Surfer represent to Marvel and what does Superman represent to DC? It’s truly difficult to quantify this vs battle as both have performed some ridiculous feats plus their transcendences overall. However, Superman represents “HOPE” within the DC cosmology, and that is a very very very hard concept to defeat/erase making Superman almost unbeatable.
Blue lanterns are also hope, but they get beaten all the time, the concepts don’t trump feats.
@@thekingant2726 Thank you for your comment. You are partially correct - some characters that represent certain concepts do not necessarily trump "certain" feats; however, transcendence(s) definitely do. For example, within a dimensional tiering system, a 3D/4D being will always be inferior to a 5D being. When it comes to Superman, The representation of "HOPE" within the DC cosmology is very complex as he represents an overall "narrative" conceptual symbol in DC comics plus some of his feats are just ridiculous - you can make an argument that he is one of the golden standards in DC and the comic world making him very hard to destroy. Anyway good topic!
@@ENGTech867 I get where you are going with this, and all of what said sounds great, but being an archetype doesn’t trump raw feats, Norrin can drain him like the solar battery.
@@thekingant2726 BLue lanterns are not the concept of hope they use the emotional spectum of hope and that mostly is healing and buffs to the other rings. so yes easy to beat for the most part..Just like green lanterns are not the concept of will.
@@thekingant2726 Superman has fought and beaten several energy drainiers and not one has won in a fight using that the biggest was death it lost wraith lost as well and he started the fight and the scan used in that fight was a 1 for 1 hulk vs surfer drain and Wraith still lost he alos blasted superman with red solar energy and even turned his body into green kryptonight and still lost.
using his weaknessess are never a complete in the bag win he has over came them many times and going off how much power ups superman has been given he is past anything Surfer can deal with right now. Surfer even stated in his fight with gladiator he was evenly matched and almost lost only after Ego gave surfer a boost did he win and gladiator is not superman he is a weaker version.
It seems all heroes are now just god level entities, especially DC. Its pathetic as it makes for cheap writing.
Hmmmm I was thinking that if Darkseid could easily just swat away, silver surfer and Superman can beat up Darkseid occasionally then I figured that it will kind of be kind of be easy and simple.
Wtf how did I miss this?! Anyway Supes FTW
Superman slaps! Great video Captain Forest!
Another great matchup captain.
Wouldn't Surfer's cosmic awareness make him aware of kryptonite? Then it's just as easy as mimicking it and shooting a ray of it at Superman.
Great job bro 👏 👍 next can you do mcu Spiderman vs alex mercer from prototype 1 in the match up.
Surfer wins due to his better control over his cosmic powers. Superman has really surface level control of his powers but the Silver Surfer has shown multiple times he can not only see the molecular weaknesses in an organic being or structure but can change this similar to the way molecule man does. He was able to reverse the Gamma reaction in Bruce Banner to bring him back from being the Hulk, vs an Elder of the Universe a Godlike Being he modified his weaponry into being all but useless. Now Superman has a vital weakness that the Surfer will immediately see and would simply just make Kryptonite radiation. So not only could he easily defeat Superman but he could also easily defeat Superboy Prime since the different radiation signatures from each type of Kryptonite wont effect the outcome one way or another he can make either or. But this is only one way Surfer could defeat Supes as I think he has many options in this fight.
False and superman is way beyond surface level with his powers.
@@mel-el5862 No he is not at best he is able to do some basic sauce level telekinesis which he barely uses. While Surfers ability to manipulate his powers are on the level of Molecule man.
@@Mollikar surfer failed to beat thor 3 times. He's not on molecule man's level at all. He also tends to job more than anyone in marvel. Supes beat thor so supes>>>thor>>surfer.
@@mel-el5862 DC writers already had Surfer easily beat Superman even they agree to that. Surfer and Thor have fought in 12 cannon fights with Thor Edgin him out 3 times once with an infinity Gem. But most writers agree Thor would not only Crush Superman but also Superboy Prime. Surfer does Job alot lately so does the Hulk and Thor as well, modern feminist writers just dont like them so I take that with a grain of salt. Sometimes its a matchup of powers problem Dr. Doom hand almost everyone their ass. I have long argued that Superman will beat Hulk but Hulk will beat the ever loving hell out of Doomsday.
@@Mollikar dc writer confirmed superman beats thor and surfer
I think a better fight would be PRE-CRISIS Superman vs The Surfer! Didn’t PC Supes sneeze out a solar system or something? I read that he was like crazy powerful.
😭dude what? Surfer could and definitely would absorbe all sunlight from supermans cells making him helpless
Superman has resistances to that, try again.
Surfer turns everything around them into Kryptonite. Fight over. Surfer turns the suns light to red around them. Fight over.
Kryptonite Eye Beams?!?!
Yeah, Cosmic awareness causes a Cosmic level Herald to come up with ideas like that.
The fight ends quick! Surfer by a eternity!!!
I see the surfer using his cosmic awareness to learn Superman's weaknesses. Then he could radiate kryptonite and blast Superman with kryptonite energy. If Superman could fall to The likes of Black Adam, I don't see him overcoming Norin Radd.
SS transmutes Sup’s suit into Kryptonite, drains him of solar radiation, Blasts him with red solar radiation…
But it wouldn’t get to that. Surfer wouldn’t want to fight. He’d get beaten down a lot. Give Superman some licks, then they’d find common ground and become more or less friendly.
So there are two questions here.
Can Surfer generate kryptonite radiation, or just summon up a big pile of kryptonite?
Yes.
Will Surfer's weird senses and cosmic awareness allow him to realize he should do it?
Maybe.
Powered by a yellow sun vs powered by everything
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Surfer senses weakness to certain radiation and produces it.
How powerful is princess amethyst from dc
In my opinion, Superman wins.
The silver surfer has no exploitable weaknesses and he will know superman's as soon as he detects with cosmic awareness that would be as enters the universe
Superman is a little too powerful for the Silver Jobber
No he not. Silver sufr more powerful than super man
@@garyhewhowalklikeagodgreen3514No Superman would beat ss
I don’t see the point of focusing all the high end feats, or all the low end feats because they skew the perspective of the regular character. I think a breakdown is best served by look at their standard makeup.
I disagree.
Also he can also turn his energy to that of krptonite
Surfer gives supes a huge blast of red solar radiation. DONE!
U KNOW. THEY DID A STORY WITH SM&SS WERE THEY TEAM UP. TO HELP EACH OTHER. IT'S WAS GOOD... BOTTOM LINE. SS IS TO POWERFUL FOR SM. HE CAN DO THINGS THAT'S SM CAN'T DO...
Surfer stomps Supes flat out with barely any effort!
Whats your opinion on superman vs thor ?
Could the young justice league beat the super friends?
Silver surfer as his stats are just as if not better.
faster, more durable and has regenerated from practically nothing.
Silversurfer seeing in light/energy like he does to find planets for glactus.
Has the power to absorb and manipulate energy.
The basic of surfers would beat almost the best of supermans.
But worthy one shotted cosmic surfer
SOS should be considered an inverse-exclusive hax imo. Because how important is the "story of Superman" to Marvel Comics?
Standard battle assumptions.
The story of superman is pretty important for Marvel Comics as several characters were made based on Superman.. Several marvel superman copycats include Sentry, Blue Marvel, Gladiator, Hyperion, and even that Character from Eternals.. Even Stan Lee said that they made Thor in the 60s for the reason that Thor is Superman's Counterpart in Marvel..
Thor n hulk have beaten surfer before so can big blue
Superman is way stronger and faster, but the power of comic is just stupid, he can turn intangible so raw strength is useless, he can absorb and drain energy meaning unless they are fighting in the middle of a sun superman is powerless and finally the surfer can use the power of cosmic to manipulate matter so giving superman a golden kryptonite suit is something he can do.
Silver Surfer wins! Silver Surfer can sense Superman weakness. Also Silver Surfer can drain Superman powers. I don't see how Superman wins. 🤔
How do you figure a stalemate?
Doesn’t Superman need a yellow sun .
Silver surfer can phase into superman an change his heart to kyptonite and kill him , or absorb the yellow sun from superman , like he absorb the gamma radiation from hulk an made him human again .
It really isn't a fare fight. Surfer can pull all the yellow sun radiation out of Superman. This is one of those fights where Superman is strong than his opponent but his opponent is too versatile.
SS has way too many abilities that he could throw at SM,, SS could easily deduce SM's weakness to the big K,and replicate it through the power cosmic,he could also generate red sun light or drive SM insane somehow. SS wins 9/10
and yet in his fight with Gladiator who had a simuler weakness he almost lost and even stated himself in the fight they were too evenly matched surfer needed a boost from Ego just to win. And Gladiator is not as powerful as superman. SUperman has also beaten alll of his weakness in fights iinculding energy drain matter in fact energy drain has never lead to him losing.. Power stealing like rogue has or parasyte. But in his fight with wraith alone he was hit with all his weaknesses and he still beat wraith.
and this was N52 he is even ore powerful then he was then.. Surfer has lost to many fights with KOs from people with less AP then superman. I see this as current superman he has no way to beat as he has all feats ever in his continuity.. But you take a supermn from like the 90s and have them fight surfer would and should win that.. but vrs current superman 0% as he would even have feats of superman blue as it has been stated all versions and feats are now cannon too him on top of being hope of DC the concept of it.
Surfer would just suck the solar energy out of him like he took the gamma out the hulk and turned him into banner in a second!
First and superman stomps
He doesn't stomp, however, he wins although not easily
SS
Surfer could drain the energy right out of Supes
SURFER can create a red sun with his power cosmic. Superman wouldnt stand a chance in hell
Huh?????
Because Superman can get pass the source wall that’s another reason why you’re saying that he can beat Silver Surfer????
Superman can get past the source wall, but then again gets OUTSMARTED by THE BATMAN????
Please make it make sense🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Surfer can transfer supermans uniform to kyrptonite
Rooting Silver Surfer
hello captain forest. will you be doing a wonder woman vs zatanna video?
I absolutely disagree, Superman is NOT beating Silver Surfer.
Surfer would beat the breaks off of Supes in seconds
Current superman is way above surfer
did I hear invulnerable aura?
Surfer has all of Supermans powers
Great fight my guy ! I agree Superman is too much for SS in the end. By the way in your opinion who is strong enough to beat Superman 1v1 ? I seen one by this other UA-camr but I disagree with many he said tbh.
Thank you, and hmm i gotta think about this one
SS all day everyday
superman is no competition
Surfer is no match for thor
- loki
Man are you smoking surfer has cosmic awareness it wouldn't take a second for surfer to realize that supes is powered by yellow sun rays he would cancel that out an stomp supes
Silver Surfer would take Superman...
You're using feats from tons of different variants of Superman, and using only 616 for surfer. Barely even an argument here cause idk which superman he's supposed to be fighting here. Better way to do this would be pitting each superman against surfer in separate one on one battles. New 52 definitely loses, and the others pretty much all win, some easier than others
If you actually read dc. You would know new 52 and post crisis are one in the same if you read dark knight metal. The fact you don’t know that tells me all i need to know and that is to discard and ignore your garbage take.
Could you pleas tell the comics these feats happen in because the quality of the scans in your video aren’t so easy to see because it’s kinda blurry? I would like to see that scan about lex luthor being stronger than the entire dark army combined that could really be useful to me
Surfer beats Superman easily,power drain or simply create Kryptanite.
His knowledge is too vast ,it's a cosmic being.
Surfer can one shot the sun ,this sounds fan boyish
Superman vs Thor
Superman stomps
Do you agree with people scaling super boy prime to irrelevant layers into high outversal
The proper term is infinite hierarchies into high outer but yes, he can be scaled a lot higher though
@@captainforest okay thanks
@@captainforest wouldn't irrelevant layers scale higher than infinite hierarchies
This is not even a good fight. Surfer, if he was motivated, would easily beat Superman 10 out of 10 times with little difficulty
Keep it real Superman can’t be surfer
yaa, sup is way above.
Silver Surfer is way more powerful than Superman way more versatile than Superman go anywhere in the universe with Nick and not go anywhere in the universe without the yellow sun so please stop it Subway Surfers way more public and stop them with just a flick of his finger once he realized he needs solar energy Superman Silver Surfer to cut him off and that's our source Easley stop it
Which makes a boring character. Thanks writers
Superman always holding back, Superman too powerful for sliver surfer. I like sliver sufrer too
Surfer
This guy is a superman fan don't know anything about comics always thinks superman will win very ignorant
surfer is faster
Lol no new 52 supes is dead and it isn't a combo of them.
Goes to show how you don’t read DC.
SM&SS R NOT THE G.D. SAME. YES BOTH R AILEN S. WITH GREAT POWER. BUT THEY DIFFERENT IN SO MANT WAYS... SM CAN BLEED&B HURT... EVER SEEN THE MOVIE SM-2...
Yeah Superman is vulnerable to kryptonite, but there has also been an occasion he has overcome it. To be sincere, I like Silver Surfer a lot. He's powerful to drain energies and make it his own, cosmic awareness, Energy manipulation and others. But don't forget Superman is super intelligent and this make him also aware of his weakness and how to deal with it,as he can also overcome it if he want as he did in the sandman saga. Again, if you are not aware of this, Superman is a cosmic energy booster with no limits. That's why is always holding back. I think, both are evenly match. But if I am to side, I will say Superman wins.