What Level Should You Be For Elden Ring DLC? | Shadow of the Erdtree

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  • @Speedur_
    @Speedur_ 8 місяців тому +284

    I think someone at FromSoft said it perfectly, “whatever level you are when you beat mohg and got there naturally” or something along those lines.

    • @crabniac
      @crabniac 8 місяців тому +14

      This is the way

    • @uncleol
      @uncleol 8 місяців тому +7

      That is the best way

    • @Epiousios18
      @Epiousios18 8 місяців тому +3

      Who said this?

    • @jackcooper7247
      @jackcooper7247 8 місяців тому +2

      This is the way

    • @OneDrunkWizard
      @OneDrunkWizard 8 місяців тому +4

      People who use duplicate glitches to max level are gonna be upset and likely won't even finish the dlc. Fantastic Miyazaki.

  • @jpteknoman
    @jpteknoman 8 місяців тому +152

    The way to access the dlc IS the hint on what level you should be. A level that allows you to beat Mogh.

    • @patrickWWW
      @patrickWWW 8 місяців тому +11

      Just beat mohg at like 80, ill probably play the DLC on my 2 mains then do a fresh start run

    • @Gmasterjoelio
      @Gmasterjoelio 8 місяців тому +4

      That seems stupid to do for a game that has been out for two years. I doubt they expect people to restart their game to play the dlc, in fact that's exactly what Miyazaki said

    • @patrickWWW
      @patrickWWW 8 місяців тому +13

      @@Gmasterjoelio you basically stated a question and then answered it yourself, play the game how youd like, only thing stupid is basing what you do in single player game off of what some tard on the internet thinks

    • @linedpaper5374
      @linedpaper5374 8 місяців тому +1

      i struggle with this line of thinking because of the rise in RL1 playthroughs. people can beat radagon on RL1 if they’re skilled enough so it’s hard to really nail down the difference between RL and skill when it comes to beating mogh.

    • @alexclark4792
      @alexclark4792 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Gmasterjoelio I'm not loading up a 2 year old character I don't remember the build of to play the DLC, i'm either playing my most recent from like a month ago or starting fresh and using a new build I haven't done, probably fresh though as I want the new items to dictate my gear choices, and I don't want to be over leveled.

  • @billj.8690
    @billj.8690 8 місяців тому +209

    I think this attack power upgrade system Miyazaki was referring to being similar to Sekiro is gonna cap us after a certain point where level 150 is no different then 300 within the DLC area. Just my opinion.
    EDIT - meaning they will gimmick something up where we only can do so much damage to enemies naturally, then we can raise attack by obtaining these upgrades. I don't know what will probably be something weird like "jars of Miquella's sweat" or some other sus sounding thing.

    • @kimlee6643
      @kimlee6643 8 місяців тому +37

      Dreamy bath water that cooked up while Miquey was waiting on us. Calling it now.

    • @silvangold007
      @silvangold007 8 місяців тому +13

      I agree! I'm just over leveling so I can use all the new weapons with max benefit! I don't think it'll matter what level you go in at. Except for the normal vitality checks they do lol

    • @insaneHollow
      @insaneHollow 8 місяців тому +12

      Everyone forgetting that this mechanic already existed before sekiro. Do y’all remember needing to grab giant souls to fight Vendrick in DS2?

    • @billj.8690
      @billj.8690 8 місяців тому +7

      @@insaneHollow Yeah you're absolutely right. I think so many people are citing Sekiro because that was the direct comparison Miyazaki made in a recent interview.

    • @Ryan-cs3uc
      @Ryan-cs3uc 8 місяців тому +3

      I have a feeling the level scaling won’t be very balanced in the dlc. Will either be too easy or ridiculously hard. I’m leaning towards it being easy if you did everything in the base game. I hope it’s challenging and not easy

  • @TAZMASTA40
    @TAZMASTA40 8 місяців тому +78

    I didn't think of this until just now, but I'm happy the entrance is Mohg arena. I almost never get called to help with that fight in co-op, and imo he's one of the funnest bosses.

    • @kimlee6643
      @kimlee6643 8 місяців тому +9

      That's because Mohgwyn Palace is isolated from all the other matchmaking that occurs in the game for co-op. You can invade there from anywhere, but not co-op, it must be done locally. Travel to one of the graces and do near only co-op and you will definitely be summoned to help with Mohg.

    • @Kidcrowley
      @Kidcrowley 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, that second phase goes crazy

    • @randomnobody9229
      @randomnobody9229 8 місяців тому

      I helped over 100 people beat Mohg, definitely one of my favorites.

    • @Practicallypreposterous
      @Practicallypreposterous 8 місяців тому

      ​@@kimlee6643where did you get that from?

    • @kimlee6643
      @kimlee6643 8 місяців тому

      @@PracticallypreposterousSearch "Elden Ring 1.06" and you will find a page describing the changes for said patch, which included this much needed update of invading and sending signs universally. For co-op, an asterisk marks and describes that Moghwyn Palace, however, is singularly excluded.

  • @thescottishguy6025
    @thescottishguy6025 8 місяців тому +67

    Im gonna be doing it at lv72 with full melee build and no spirit ashes, could be a brutal journey but I'm looking forward to it

    • @enman009
      @enman009 8 місяців тому +19

      I've done low level runs and I can attest: on pure melee, your damage is still high enough, you just need damage resistance talismans to avoid potential one shots. Trust me, you'll feel a huge sense of relief when you finish that run.

    • @thescottishguy6025
      @thescottishguy6025 8 місяців тому +4

      @@enman009 i can already imagine the rush I'll get beating some bosses

    • @chocobro___
      @chocobro___ 8 місяців тому +11

      Smartest approach IMO my friend, I want to be lower level so
      1. things are difficult and rewarding
      2. knowing we will get so many new weapons and classes I would like to have some levels to spend towards new weapon requirements

    • @DKJA
      @DKJA 8 місяців тому +10

      level 1 for me, it'll be fun i'm sure

    • @DreyfusLagoon
      @DreyfusLagoon 8 місяців тому +5

      That’s a smart method of approach because you’ll have plenty of levels to play around with as you go through the DLC. I think I’m going to do something similar at level 100 because I can basically beat the entire game at level 100, but i like to bring my characters up to 150-168 (for invasions) so I’ll still have 50-68 level ups to try out the new weapons

  • @anthony4553
    @anthony4553 8 місяців тому +22

    Man I was thinking about this the last couple days,I think 125 would be a sweet spot not to easy but not to hard where you would feel under leveled!

  • @waasakii5990
    @waasakii5990 8 місяців тому +760

    150 gang ------->

    • @BARBARBINKLE
      @BARBARBINKLE 8 місяців тому +15

      Seems solid that’s about the level you’ll be if you did all the optional content (excluding shitty catacomb dungeons)

    • @constantinos6568
      @constantinos6568 8 місяців тому +31

      3 gang ------------------------->

    • @Bavari90
      @Bavari90 8 місяців тому +73

      250 gang 😎

    • @gamer_geek2638
      @gamer_geek2638 8 місяців тому +22

      @@Bavari90250 is the perfect level imo

    • @Bavari90
      @Bavari90 8 місяців тому +5

      @@gamer_geek2638 it is.

  • @s0m3Guy37
    @s0m3Guy37 8 місяців тому +8

    I can imagine a system similar to DS2 with Vendrik, where gathering certain items will decrease/increase stats in the game to make the player stronger or more effective against these DLC bosses

  • @2JOfficial
    @2JOfficial 8 місяців тому +40

    If for whatever reason the DLC still seems a bit too easy for you, you can just respec at Rennala and dump some levels into something you don't use. For example i'm level 163 with a +10 Bloodhound Fang, if i'm killing enemies too easily, i'm going to respec and dump a bunch of levels into Faith which I currently have ridiculously low.

    • @cionm7077
      @cionm7077 8 місяців тому +2

      The difficulty is not going to be based on level, Miyazaki knows that after 2 years most players still playing are overleveled and also the difference between levels amongst them is big. we are going to get level capped and through fighting bosses you can become stronger like In sekiro. No point in respec.

    • @ErrorL0lz
      @ErrorL0lz 8 місяців тому +4

      Does this work on level 713

    • @EagleGaming3632
      @EagleGaming3632 8 місяців тому

      Wow random 2J encounter. Περιμενω νε βγει το DLC για να σε δω να το παιζεις. Επισης πιστευω οτι θα ηταν καλω να κανεις ενα καινουριο playthrough του main game με νεο χαρακτηρα λιγες μερες πρην να βγει το DLC και αν θελεις το κανεις και livestream.

    • @MrJohnmirelli
      @MrJohnmirelli 8 місяців тому

      Bloodhound fang is lame AF

    • @guts9160
      @guts9160 7 місяців тому

      ​@@cionm7077 That means people with low level are going to suffer?

  • @dustyknuckles295
    @dustyknuckles295 8 місяців тому +11

    I'm just excited to figure more of this tremendous story!

  • @wilhelmscream1836
    @wilhelmscream1836 8 місяців тому +82

    150-170 sounds good for me for the DLC, I cannot fucking wait!

    • @joaobosepintodiaz7832
      @joaobosepintodiaz7832 8 місяців тому

      Same, currently at 160, not planning to go any higher than that

    • @joseespinales8292
      @joseespinales8292 8 місяців тому +5

      It won’t matter the dlc will have its unique power system … if you can beat mohg as lvl one the dlc area will be about the same difficulty for either lvl only way to get op is to lvl up there

    • @Thecrimsonking01
      @Thecrimsonking01 8 місяців тому

      270

    • @Uncle_Titus
      @Uncle_Titus 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@joaobosepintodiaz7832do y find some pvp Player With Level?

    • @solidrockofjesuschristmini2423
      @solidrockofjesuschristmini2423 8 місяців тому

      Everyone is going to get level capped so it won't matter

  • @weavatronobservatory
    @weavatronobservatory 8 місяців тому +18

    Know your build and have your favorite weapons at +25 & +10. Get your vigor at 60 so you can take a big hit and still survive and your main offensive stat at 60-80.
    I prefer 200 builds because I never feel like I’m missing out on that builds full potential.

    • @bnuymedia2537
      @bnuymedia2537 8 місяців тому

      idk I've always played at >20 vigor and now I've made a joke build with 50 and feels like I'm cheesing the game
      I think 30 is enough not to die in a single hit like, ever

    • @omnii5818
      @omnii5818 8 місяців тому +5

      @@bnuymedia2537You’re just making the game more difficult for yourself on purpose
      The average player is going to get hit more than 1 time, so saying that it’s “easy mode” is pretty disingenuous when not everyone plays the game the same

    • @СашаАндреев-м4л
      @СашаАндреев-м4л 5 місяців тому

      @@bnuymedia2537 Malenia can one shot something around 50-59 vigor with Erdtree's favor+2 with a grab attack (currently have 60, erdtree's favor+2 and barely survive if was grabbed at full HP), and same setup cannot tank full waterflow

  • @johanventer4518
    @johanventer4518 8 місяців тому +5

    I will be around 250 in NG+1. I'm a bit of a newbie in souls games but absolutely love it.

  • @zackstrife7891
    @zackstrife7891 8 місяців тому +7

    My plan is to go in with all the upgrades , at level 130 , +24 normal dual wielding , and hopefully light rolling that way I’ll be end game but still have room to improve the character and git gud if need be.

    • @ryanvandoren1519
      @ryanvandoren1519 8 місяців тому +3

      +25 is too meta. +24 is where its at... i guess

  • @Incognito-Guy
    @Incognito-Guy 8 місяців тому +52

    200 is a cool number

    • @saturnianlotus8343
      @saturnianlotus8343 8 місяців тому +3

      the only reason I'm saying 150 right now is because of how pvp degenerates past that. Every build will be full-bull-goat-soft-swapping-caster-hybrid because stat req's become moot. 120-138 feels best to me currently so bumping up to 150 wouldn't be too much while still allowing for some growth.

    • @sneaky5141
      @sneaky5141 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@saturnianlotus8343 sensible human being, a rare treat in zios comments

    • @rev3rend353
      @rev3rend353 8 місяців тому

      @@saturnianlotus8343yep I’m at 135 and I’d only go to lvl 150 max by end of dlc if need be. I think I’m on Ng+ also so the challenge will be there for sure.

    • @happyhour7871
      @happyhour7871 8 місяців тому +4

      On ng+2 lvl 200

    • @expungerbaby659
      @expungerbaby659 8 місяців тому

      200

  • @invoker9890
    @invoker9890 8 місяців тому +28

    I'm at around 230, I might start a new playthrough but that's what I'm chillin at for now

    • @enman009
      @enman009 8 місяців тому

      What build is that? I'm planning to use a pure melee lvl160, but I also want to use some spells.

    • @nearyxciv5896
      @nearyxciv5896 8 місяців тому +8

      I've got a few characters around this level. What I might do is respec at Rennala and make my build for 150 then dump the rest of the points into another skill I don't use on that character

    • @imykel2
      @imykel2 8 місяців тому

      That's kinda where I'm at it's better to stay at that level you may need the extra stats because damage can only be gained from bosses. Unless you want to PVP but I have 5 characters around 100-150

    • @dustyknuckles295
      @dustyknuckles295 8 місяців тому +5

      Same here man, I want to start a new playthrough but I also want to go in with all my awesome shit! Lol

    • @invoker9890
      @invoker9890 8 місяців тому

      @@enman009 mainly a melee build with some stats in int and mind if I wanna use spells

  • @AmazingTSDO
    @AmazingTSDO 8 місяців тому +12

    I’m gonna go in at level 315. I’m on new game plus 3 and I was getting worked on at the end game parts of elden ring

    • @samguerard4976
      @samguerard4976 8 місяців тому +4

      Same, also ng+3 and around the same level. I'm going into DLC with my stats spread out to hit all soft caps and plenty of smithing stones so I can use whatever new weapons I find

    • @posthumanoid
      @posthumanoid 8 місяців тому +1

      I am at a very similar level, also NG+3

    • @theoathlas5791
      @theoathlas5791 8 місяців тому +1

      Same here. NG3 and my level is 350

    • @joedill4311
      @joedill4311 8 місяців тому +4

      This makes me feel so much better. I thought I was really terrible (and not just bad 🤣) when I was getting absolutely shredded at the end at level 220. I have always over-leveled any type of combat game......I'd rather melt bosses, than have to fight them 93x! Hahahaha.

    • @DreyfusLagoon
      @DreyfusLagoon 8 місяців тому +2

      Have fun getting one tapped by the bosses

  • @tomschlaiss5735
    @tomschlaiss5735 8 місяців тому +8

    Nice video as always, cheers from Germany

  • @despair_ts1823
    @despair_ts1823 8 місяців тому +9

    Ima do it at 170 cuz everytime I always beat the game around that level, somehow

  • @BusinessSkrub
    @BusinessSkrub 8 місяців тому +3

    That gorgeous baritone "All right what's goin' on guys" will never get old 🥵

  • @nukachronic6211
    @nukachronic6211 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice, I remember commenting on your Twitter post about this. Glad to hear that 150 will be the intended level.

  • @fahimtajwaar2521
    @fahimtajwaar2521 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m going in lvl 100 with +8/+20 weapons. I appreciate that we have a cool new levelling system but I still want to experience the progress of classic levelling, so I’ll have up to 50 levels to get in this DLC before I cap off.

  • @djsazm3580
    @djsazm3580 8 місяців тому +2

    My main is on ng+2 level 420. I will probably try it with that build so I can pick up and use any items/spells I find.
    I also have builds ranging from 225-125 and inevitably the RL 1 run will happen.

  • @Charnel_Heart
    @Charnel_Heart 8 місяців тому +9

    Considering you can get a +10 somber weapon with margit, godrick, and the volcano manor godskin as your only boss kills, you can kill mohg as early as like level 50 if you want to pump your damage stat.

  • @musclebender
    @musclebender 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I rolled a Samurai to the mid 250’s and I am putting him on the bench for Shadow. Either going with a 135 bleed rogue, or 130 warrior strength build to get the full experience. Better to get your ass beat and savor the experience than steam roll everything.

  • @Achance2c
    @Achance2c 8 місяців тому +5

    300+ gang -->

  • @krishnansubramoni7801
    @krishnansubramoni7801 8 місяців тому +1

    There is one reply to a comment here I saw that pointed out something really smart. They mention how in DS2 there are Giant Souls which determine how effective you are at damaging Vendrick. Yes, it is functionally similar to Sekiro's attack power. But in terms of lore, it might be similar to how DS2 does it. Maybe in the DLC, we'll get something relating to Miquella that will help deal damage in the Land of Shadows. It could even be something like the cut content dream mist item. This could encourage non-combat exploration and maybe make use of the sleep mechanic which is hardly used in the main game - both by players and enemies.

  • @patrikbroz4646
    @patrikbroz4646 8 місяців тому +59

    I'm level 602 at Ng+17 with 650 hrs but I feel it won't be enough

    • @malcadorthesigillite2541
      @malcadorthesigillite2541 8 місяців тому +12

      I'm 618 NG+3 600hrs.
      We're golden bro.

    • @Daemon.05
      @Daemon.05 8 місяців тому +11

      Enemies stop scaling after ng+7 so it is more than enough

    • @00strode
      @00strode 8 місяців тому +4

      what do you even do to get that high of a level and what is there to do???

    • @jaegal3264
      @jaegal3264 8 місяців тому

      @@malcadorthesigillite2541level 713 ng+6

    • @dmitc01
      @dmitc01 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@00strodeyou don't have to re-spec to change your build

  • @euanrogers8506
    @euanrogers8506 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m 205 just starting ng+3, struggled with the last few bosses due to my melee only build but really excited to get into the dlc

  • @RatBoyTriple6ix
    @RatBoyTriple6ix 8 місяців тому +6

    One thing I never here mentioned is that if ur worried about being over levelled, u can respec ur character to be a “jack of all trades”… that way u won’t be too powerful, but u can also experience all the different builds without having to respec

    • @andresantoniovalencia1257
      @andresantoniovalencia1257 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking of doing something similar in New game + i am very traditional, shield and claymore, no more, but I was starting to increased those stats for dlc, but, it is not a bad Idea to be "Mogh level" main attributes, and the rest just for defenses, and, in new game plus, play as a JoOT, O was thinking of play that way in NG+ but now I think it would be kind of stale

    • @wzz7380
      @wzz7380 8 місяців тому +2

      You're absolutely right, thinking about the level of your character is the wrong way to think about it since all items scale on only 2 or 3 stats. If a level 400 has 99 Intel and 99 dex but running a strength faith build, it just means he is roughly at the power level of a lvl 202, but he can switch build when he wants and be more flexible in his game play
      The only true answer to that question is not what level your character is, but in what NG+ your character is. I have one char lvl 330 in NG+7 and i don't want to experience the DLC in NG+7, damages from any mobs or boss are too F stupids + they have crazy HP pool. It's very challenging and i dont want to do that for my first run into it

    • @slippyhits9488
      @slippyhits9488 6 місяців тому

      @@wzz7380would you say experiencing the dlc in ng2 at level 207 would be fine?

  • @walterphelan5348
    @walterphelan5348 8 місяців тому +2

    I’ve completed 2 full playthroughs and I’m almost finished with my 3rd for the Ranni ending but I was around 200 give or take a few lvls for each completion.

  • @turgonyurgon
    @turgonyurgon 8 місяців тому +4

    i was level ~160 when i finished my first run. im now on NG+4 and sitting around level 310. so honestly im not too worried about the dlc being a cakewalk since i've already made the game harder for myself. for those who're wondering, after a point i decided to balance my stats out so i could use just about every weapon in the game. i believe the last time i check i had about 50-55 levels in each stat.

    • @alexterieur8813
      @alexterieur8813 8 місяців тому

      thats a fun idea

    • @jibblestherat
      @jibblestherat 5 місяців тому

      I’m around the same level as you and I’ve done the same thing to my levels the only difference is my character is on ng+8 and I can start ng+9 but I don’t if I want to start ng+9 cuz if I can just go straight to the dlc from killing mogh and radahn ill just stay on ng+8 but I don’t if the game will make me reset to ng+9 for the dlc

  • @r4k334
    @r4k334 8 місяців тому +2

    i think I will go into the dlc on ng+7 diff and lvl 713 to enjoy all the new builds

  • @xDenaliH1x
    @xDenaliH1x 8 місяців тому +3

    Can't wait!!

  • @stakesishigh516
    @stakesishigh516 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m still debating starting a new playthrough now and go into NG+ and just get going on 6.21 once the DLC drops. Definitely doing a new starting build for it.

  • @forrestoneill5453
    @forrestoneill5453 5 місяців тому +3

    “You should expect the DLC to be a joke as well” lmao 🤡

  • @warpstorm1988
    @warpstorm1988 8 місяців тому +3

    The character I’m going to use first is currently level 243 and I’m still working on them. I want my stats to be as high as possible so I can pick up a new toy and immediately play with it; everything looks too cool to not try!

  • @pieface1726
    @pieface1726 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video dude, btw sekiro did have a level up system, it was a mask which was locked behind a quest and about 1/2 of the story.

  • @popamarianalexandru8159
    @popamarianalexandru8159 8 місяців тому +1

    What I like to do, to keep it challenging at a high level, I max out Arcane to have a higher drop rate on items, while not rocking an Arcane build. So lets say I run a pure STR build, I max out Arc, put a lot of points in END, and the minimum reqs for my weapons

  • @crescentwolf7072
    @crescentwolf7072 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to be playing through the dlc with two characters, one at level 125, and one at level 90, the reason why i chose RL 90 is because I've had a few successful runs at RL 80 with completing the base game, only doing this to see if it's possible, otherwise, I can always take the time to grind the dlc for runes and level up there.

  • @thisisntmyhandle420
    @thisisntmyhandle420 8 місяців тому +1

    i had a ng+ 8 account but im starting fresh and going to the dlc on a new build

  • @ethancarter
    @ethancarter 8 місяців тому +1

    There was this one time when I was summoned to help level 25 player to beat Godskin Duo in Farum Azula... so much for optimal leveling, lol :D

  • @takenvisions403
    @takenvisions403 8 місяців тому +2

    Im going in at level 300, I like being able to use every weapon, I am running st trina’s sword sleep build, I feel its going to be very viable in the dlc

    • @DreyfusLagoon
      @DreyfusLagoon 8 місяців тому

      If you are NG+3 or beyond, good luck

  • @kalsizzle
    @kalsizzle 8 місяців тому

    I haven't played Elden Ring in almost two years so I cant wait to start up a new playthrough in preparation for the DLC.

  • @Whoareyoucalling
    @Whoareyoucalling 8 місяців тому +1

    I have fears of Brume tower all over again. Id wager level 200 is roughly what Fromsoftware intends players to hit before starting the DLC.
    Then again if the DLC is letting you increase attack power with its own specific mechanic, then level may be more of build requirement than a DLC requirement. Hard requirement as of now is beating Rhadan and Mohg, both of which can be beaten at level 80 with relative ease.
    I have a sneaking suspicion Messer the impaler will be the first major boss you fight in the DLC.

  • @yourvoicecanbeat
    @yourvoicecanbeat 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m going to laugh soooo hard if we pop into the dlc and are met with a prompt… Your power from grace has been shadowed… then we are left at base level and forced to use base weapons till we power back up.

  • @DKJA
    @DKJA 8 місяців тому +1

    i'm gonna go to the dlc with my level 1 save then i'll do another run with a mage around level 100 and another with incantation around level 100 too

  • @abduladestroyerofworlds4751
    @abduladestroyerofworlds4751 8 місяців тому +2

    Im going to go in at max level on ng+7 but I will not be using broken things to get a harder experience and that I could try every weapons and spells

  • @ZugzugZugzugson
    @ZugzugZugzugson 5 місяців тому +1

    would love to have the "meta" go from 150 > 170.
    hybrid builds are pretty sucky while purist cheese builds reign supreme at 150.
    just had some douchenozzle pop half my health bar with 1 moonveil slash, and i'm at 153 with 60 vigor and heavy armor (this guy was clearly a squishy magic user with sub 40 vigor).... he then ran off when he started losing, because of course he did, and then when the host decided to ignore him and proceed on the beaten path (WHICH IS A TERRIBLE IDEA BTW) he just went on top of a wall and sniped the host clean off a ladder with a greatbow, he survived the barrage of arrows at about 20% hp but the fall finished him.....
    the fact i feel like i constantly have to min/max my equipment, can't carry more than 1 weapon because my build revolves around the 101 poise breakpoint (which means heavy armor) and literally cannot spare a single point in mind let alone another point in endurance is awful... i'm a strength/faith build in heavy armor and i can barely meet the faith requirements needed for non-dogshit incantations, let alone the FP to cast them more than 3-4 times.
    i constantly feel like i am just a few points short of almost anything outside of a one-trick pony build at 150.
    if i don't need FP, i need weight load, if i don't need weight load or FP i need faith, if i don't need faith, weight load or FP, i need HP or dmg.... CONSTANTLY FALLING A FEW POINTS SHORT IN WHATEVER I NEED IS A CONSTANT AT THIS TIER!!!
    whoever decided 150 should be the meta was about 20-30 levels short. actual garbage tier in every sense of the word.

  • @Cendobro
    @Cendobro 8 місяців тому +1

    05:08 1 to 150 is a really good range

  • @manab787
    @manab787 8 місяців тому +1

    120 to 150. If someone is higher, I think fromsoft will use the current phantom downscaling mechanism to bring people down to the level of a host around 150.
    Notice 150 is my guess, but you get the idea. There's gonna be a threshold where leveling up won't make much of a difference.
    Personally I think this is great and makes me actually consider going in with a 200+ build, heck even 300!
    I'll be able to use whatever weapon/equipment while being scaled down appropriately. I'll only use the new power mechanic if the challenge becomes absurd.

  • @St._Matthew
    @St._Matthew 8 місяців тому +1

    New game plus 5 level 350 .
    Struggling vs bosses was fun but after 2 years of playing / beating the 5 times …
    I just want the new weapons/ armor n more Lore

  • @NotSamSage
    @NotSamSage 8 місяців тому

    This has been my first souls game, and I absolutely love it!! I’m on my third playthrough, and I’m trying to 100% the game before the DLC drops. I’m actually almost level 300 (285 I think).
    Game is absolutely amazing, and I can’t wait for this DLC!!

  • @humblelootfarmer
    @humblelootfarmer 8 місяців тому

    Prolly around 150-160 I appreciate you explaining the whole attack power concept I never played Sekiro so I wasn’t sure what it meant it’ll be nice to another benefit to roaming and exploring the new map other then just to soak all the new content in

  • @RampidWarthogStudios
    @RampidWarthogStudios 8 місяців тому +4

    I'm just getting all my characters to lvl 120-150

  • @lucaszembrzuski
    @lucaszembrzuski 8 місяців тому

    There is one fromsoft dlc that did something similar already, the dark souls 2 dlc where ypu can free one or more knights to help you fight the Burnt Ivory King. That was kinda like a ingame difficulty slider by eksploration.
    And of course the giant's souls as a dmg boost against Vendrick.

  • @dobermanfreak2a112
    @dobermanfreak2a112 8 місяців тому +1

    I have a 125 for pvp a 150, 180, 205 and 305 so I’m good. I will use my high lvl for the first run so I can test weapons, figure out what I like then run my pvp build through for those said weapons.

  • @kingayres_2356
    @kingayres_2356 8 місяців тому

    I’m doing another play through on my first NG+ right now. I’m currently level 182 and plan on being 190-200 by the time I’m DLC ready. I think that should put me in a pretty comfortable spot

  • @kaladinstormblessed9626
    @kaladinstormblessed9626 8 місяців тому +2

    I am planning on going into the dlc in ng+7/8 at about level 250ish.

  • @soulsdegreen
    @soulsdegreen 8 місяців тому

    While I stuck to meta 125-150 for 2 years, I recently brought my first character well above 200 and was very surprised to meet so many players at these levels in Coop. Actually I realized that 150-200 is TOTALLY DEAD but things pick back up after 200 for all the NG+ players.

  • @secondeyelid8993
    @secondeyelid8993 8 місяців тому

    Which level you should be depends on your build, since some builds require more levels than others. But I agree with the person who said that whatever level you are at when beating Mohg is good.

  • @jimystimz4731
    @jimystimz4731 8 місяців тому

    Its a very practical and flexible line, if you can beat Mohg and Radan your at the right level for you.

  • @brianblattner861
    @brianblattner861 8 місяців тому

    I used to cap at 150 but after doing many invasions I’ve come to love 168. It’s the sweet spot imo. Enough to split into two main stats but not enough to be a master of all.

  • @charlesqbanks
    @charlesqbanks 8 місяців тому +5

    I'm someone who finds joy in overleveling a character, and getting rid of the difficulty out of a game. It gives me great pleasure, to try a hard boss, die, then go elsewhere and grind for a while, then come back and oneshot it without having to learn all of the attacks. So I hope that the game doesn't punish you too harshly if you're over leveled.

  • @nekotorvic3026
    @nekotorvic3026 8 місяців тому

    Honestly, at this point I think I wouldn't be opposed to FS adding some sort of level cap at around 150 to 200. That way they can balance everything around players being at those levels. They could have a system like Attack Power added to ng+ cycles and the dlc so players can optionally become stronger, but have no effect on PVP.
    We'd have to go for actual builds, instead of maxed out characters, there would be a lot more players in the same level ranges for coop and pvp, PVE could be balanced around a specific endpoint and these concerns about being over levelled would not be a thing.

  • @HerbalTeabag
    @HerbalTeabag 8 місяців тому

    I have characters at 80, 115, 125, and 130, probably will be playing my 125 build first, although pushing one of them to 150 is tempting for a tiny bit more build freedom! looking forward to experimenting with new weapons !

  • @Garl_Vinland
    @Garl_Vinland 8 місяців тому

    Miyazaki said it would be around Mohg’s palace level. I completed the game easily at 125. PvP meta’s at 125. I’d definetly stay there until further notice.
    Plus Miyazaki in the same interview said there would be an alternate levelling strategy that won’t affect your current level

  • @sethstewart9704
    @sethstewart9704 8 місяців тому

    Whenever I'm dreaming and I find myself needing to throw a punch, I can never put enough power behind it. It's like my punches land feather-soft. This shall be how the new balancing mechanic will work.

  • @WhiteInk47
    @WhiteInk47 8 місяців тому

    Whatever level I’m at when I get back to Mohg’s palace in NG+. I’m not too fussed about making it too easy, that upgrade system seems neat

  • @silvangold007
    @silvangold007 8 місяців тому

    I'm gonna be about 360. So that way I can experience almost ALL of the DLC and weapons at max benefits in one go. I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to play through it 8 times back to back. But when I do decide to come back to it, I'll know what is there, what Stats I'll need to use whatever I want to use. And I'll play through it naturally.

  • @kapteinen6156
    @kapteinen6156 8 місяців тому +1

    Will your ending in the base game affect the DLC? Like the Frenzied flame ending, where Melina is kinda pissed at you? Because she is supposed to tell you where to enter the DLC etc.

  • @mosessingleton7553
    @mosessingleton7553 8 місяців тому

    Very informative in how to approach the DLC.

  • @dougdynamo9398
    @dougdynamo9398 8 місяців тому +1

    I picked level 135 because most people chose either 125 or 150 as the meta. 150 gets to the point of having whatever you want while 125 keeps it to a strict build with few hard caps. I just gave myself some wiggle room for both.

    • @nyezar717
      @nyezar717 8 місяців тому +4

      I think 138 allows you to multiplayer que with 125 and 150

    • @dougdynamo9398
      @dougdynamo9398 8 місяців тому

      @@nyezar717
      Oh, nice! I actually didn't know that.

    • @yLleuadau
      @yLleuadau 8 місяців тому

      150 isn’t really any different than 125, if you try and split your stats between say strength and int at 150 you’ll never do as much damage as someone who’s just dumped their points into purely strength or purely int, I’d say you’re at a disadvantage even at 150 if you try a mixed build. Pure mage builds due to how spell scaling works would have to have 70-80 int to even do similar damage than a strength build at 125 and if your RL is 125 70 or 80 points is MASSIVE

    • @nyezar717
      @nyezar717 8 місяців тому

      @@yLleuadau ya I know but I was mainly saying that so you can invade both 125 and 150

  • @quinnbeasley94
    @quinnbeasley94 8 місяців тому

    At RL 137, I believe you can invade levels 125 through 150. I think this will be my starting level for the dlc. Can't wait to invade in new areas with new weapons!

  • @007massey
    @007massey 8 місяців тому

    It's wild to me that there are players who level to 250-300+ ☠️ I've never went above 150 in any souls game, partially because I do enjoy PvP and want to experience that, but also because I've never felt the need to. My main character is 150 in ER and I was honestly hesitant to even level that high but decided to make 2 other characters for PvP just for variety sake - 1 for arena, 1 for invasions. Part of the fun for me is making actual builds and not just maxing out every stat so I can use whatever, whenever. I like doing theme-based builds and changing it up every so often, seeing how creative I can be. I could understand if we didn't have a respec option, but eventually everyone morphs into some form of a fast rolling bullgoat with a melee weapon, greatshield, staff, talisman, and bow equipped. Like bro what is your build, a traveling merchant? I highly doubt I'll level any higher for the DLC unless I start getting one shot by bosses. Even then I'd probably change up my build, leveling would be a last resort.

  • @josephcoffey2175
    @josephcoffey2175 8 місяців тому

    I'm so set for the dlc, I'm doing a game ++ first, then play thru with a new character, I'm trying not to over think it, just have fun.

  • @Maybelater1018
    @Maybelater1018 8 місяців тому

    I have 3 lvl 140 characters that I'm keen to take into the DLC my curiosity is how new weapon types will fit into those pre determined builds. That'll be the most fun to find out. I have a Spellsword Vergil from Devil May Cry, a Lightning Dex sellsword and a straight up Guts/King Gaiserik build with mostly strength but a lil bit of faith and a crossbow.

  • @thomasperscors
    @thomasperscors 8 місяців тому

    I have a NG+ lv 200 (faith-int), lv 150 (int), and lv 100 (faith). I plan on taking the DLC really slow, savoring it, alternating between my three builds.

  • @LeonExile05
    @LeonExile05 8 місяців тому

    I think they’ve already mentioned that it will have a level scaling system like Sekiro’s DLC. Where the level you are- whether that’s NG+7 or on your first playthrough, it won’t matter much. If you’re end game I’m sure that would be preferable, as I’m guessing gear or builds will make the main difference. I think if someone had never played the game and hadn’t made it to the Altus Plateau area they’d probably struggle a lot jumping into the DLC. lol

  • @highlord2841
    @highlord2841 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m going in with my first complete character which is lvl 129

  • @evilmac9623
    @evilmac9623 8 місяців тому

    I have a strength 125 build I just defeated the EB on and didnt roll credits on because I thought they might give us a different ending... I guess I wont get a new ending but that is probably what I am going to do the DLC with. 125 felt decent enough on Mogh. I just hope fromsoft doesn't troll us all and you lose a questline or something if you kill Mogh lol

  • @Hanrahan46
    @Hanrahan46 6 місяців тому

    NG+4, lvl 175. I have a lvl 150 on NG+7 cycle (like on journey 15) but I decided to lvl this guy at 175, can still be summoned by lvls 150 to help them. I don't care about pvp.
    I got a RL1 character that cleared everything solo, but I didn't begin NG+1 so he'll be perfect to clear the DLC on RL1.

  • @kayden-blodgett9032
    @kayden-blodgett9032 8 місяців тому

    What im currently doing in preparation for the dlc is having 3 + different playthroughs ready. Each focused on a specific build. (dex/strength, faith/strength, intelligence/strength, etc). I get my character to around level 130 doing most major bosses except malenia, placidusax, and maliketh + everything that comes after him. So when I beat the dlc I can beat the rest of the base game with whatever I come out of the dlc with. Ensuring im prepared with lots of smithing stones and larval tears for whatever the dlc gives us. Although doing it this way has its downsides. Considering most of my final bosses are fire giant, godskin duo, and commander neil, is a bit unfortunate because those bosses suck imo. But it will be worth it for the dlc!

  • @Allocution_TK
    @Allocution_TK 8 місяців тому

    i'm at 188 right now, been grinding Tekken 8 a lot. I'll probably try to hit 200 before the DLC drops and just stay there throughout the DLC

  • @NerdishNature
    @NerdishNature 8 місяців тому

    I’m just now levelling a new character until I reach 150 for the dlc and have a solid build to start and take it on. But I’m also going to get my lvl 180 NG+ character close behind and just see what feels better 😊

  • @shaneregan7745
    @shaneregan7745 8 місяців тому

    I’m starting a fresh run a week or two before the dlc. Hope to be around 125-150 by the time it drops

  • @nucularmechanic9623
    @nucularmechanic9623 8 місяців тому

    I'm setting up 3 characters to run through the DLC. I tried to think of what lore reasons a character has to go there, so the first is the Blind Swordsman, who is a master of all weapons. The character will have all melee weapons in the game and the stats to use them, so it will be a pretty high level. Probably between 270 and 300. I have to set this one up, but the idea is he's chasing Miquella as a promise to Malenia. Another one is my Mogh file. I finished the game with that, so it's ready to go. Logic is he's chasing after Miquella for obvious reasons. Lastly, one with no lore reason, I'm still doing a RL1 playthrough. I'm thinking of trying this one first just to be a little crazy.

  • @Mimsyborogove923
    @Mimsyborogove923 8 місяців тому

    I think I might just start a new character and see how quickly I can bum rush it to the DLC. And that's the level I'll play it at. I also want to try and only use the new weapon types in the DLC. But we'll see if that's possible.

  • @stuartrice3891
    @stuartrice3891 8 місяців тому

    Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this sounds a bit like the "Giant Souls" in Dark Souls 2, and how it changed how much damage you did to Vendrick. By having a feature associated with the level of "shadow" (or "light") you've gathered, the DLC would become easier as you overcome the "resistances" of enemies.

  • @madwaluigi2860
    @madwaluigi2860 8 місяців тому

    logically as soon as you are able to fight mohg and hold up a decent fight, that would be the intended starting level

  • @Scaion
    @Scaion 8 місяців тому +1

    My character is 150; however, I have over 7 millions runes from coop without knowing what to do with them yet.

  • @Sablemae76
    @Sablemae76 8 місяців тому

    I have 9 builds ready in-between 125-150. I have a magic build w dmgs. I have a str/faith build with crucible weapons. I have a lightning and fire build. A dex/ magic build a pure str build and a frost gravity build and a dexbuild. The last spot will be a str/arc or dex/arc build

  • @enman009
    @enman009 8 місяців тому

    I'm curious to how they will balance the difficulty. I believe that, once you know how the game works, Elden Ring becomes very manageable, but adding the sense of progression is what makes the struggle seems more satisfying. I hope the attack power thing improves the progression previous DLCs have lacked.

  • @pipomplop
    @pipomplop 8 місяців тому +5

    Good Elden Ring creator = Ziostorm

  • @2006hluis
    @2006hluis 8 місяців тому

    I’m aiming for a lvl 10/20-23 level weapon and 150-170 lvl. I don’t have a lot of time to struggle so this should be good to have a good experience.
    I’m gonna clear out limgeave, caeild, leyndell, Liurnia, underground areas and Mogh’s area

  • @xpatrstarx
    @xpatrstarx 8 місяців тому

    I'm going first with a dex faith build just below 150. Depending on what kind of items I find in the dlc I have 3 other characters with various builds. Strength/Arcane bleed, Int/Faith spell caster, and a jacked level 365 dragon cultest. That last character is on ng+7

  • @AltCunninghamX
    @AltCunninghamX 8 місяців тому +4

    This is really good information to know, because im level 210 right now and i dont want to stop leveling up. Im on new game plus and just got everything i want for the dlc. I went to new game plus for the sole reason that ive played this game for 500 hours collectively on multiple saves and have gotten so good at the game that i cant die unless its a death rite bird, the last 4 main bosses, malenia and mohg(ikr thats a lot of bosses to suck at and still be "good" at the game😂

    • @AltCunninghamX
      @AltCunninghamX 8 місяців тому +3

      I just want to make sure there is going to be malenia, maliketh and mohg level challenges in the dlc. I dont want to steam roll things all the time but i do still want to be a high level to use my weapons to their upmost abilities.

  • @canonicall
    @canonicall 8 місяців тому

    I just made a new build in preparation for the dlc, I'm going in as low level as I can possibly manage, I'm going to try around level 60 or so.

  • @backslash4141
    @backslash4141 8 місяців тому

    Imma try and make a new build to go through the game before the DLC drops. My intention is to stop levelling at 125, so if stuff seems too hard at the start, I can level up 150 but I won't accidentally trivialise the early parts of the dlc.

  • @daveidhentie8760
    @daveidhentie8760 8 місяців тому +1

    Do you think ng+ will affect the difficulty at all? I started a new character so I’ll be going in fresh. I would like to use main but it’s on ng+7