2. Divide & Conquer: Convex Hull, Median Finding

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  • MIT 6.046J Design and Analysis of Algorithms, Spring 2015
    View the complete course: ocw.mit.edu/6-0...
    Instructor: Srinivas Devadas
    In this lecture, Professor Devadas introduces divide-and-conquer algorithms and problems that can be solved using divide-and-conquer approaches.
    License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 99

  • @anythingstudio5208
    @anythingstudio5208 2 роки тому +32

    Course starts at 7:10
    Merging convex hull 23:59
    Median finding 53:29

  • @coolclay27
    @coolclay27 8 років тому +64

    Srinivas Devadas is the best lecturer I have ever encountered. He's amazingly clear, but does not over-explain. It's a pity he's not teaching 6.046 anymore.

  • @alute5532
    @alute5532 2 роки тому +10

    Convex hull hull 11:00
    Definition 12:27
    Smallest polygon containing all points ch(S)
    Sequence boundaries
    Doubly LinkedList
    21:14 Break me up by drawing half-planes
    Left plane is one sub problem
    Right line is another problem
    Find convex hull for each of subprolems -when you get a hint brute force won't work
    47:10 how do o remove the lines
    Find upper tangent & lower tangent

    • @bleakmess
      @bleakmess Рік тому

      convex hull is better from 07:00

  • @mrloldude135
    @mrloldude135 8 років тому +132

    Median finding @53:29

  • @thedailynoodle8363
    @thedailynoodle8363 8 років тому +140

    You guys really stepped up the camera work

  • @jayquelin
    @jayquelin 8 років тому +29

    Such a brilliant lecture --i particular love the visual examples!! Thank you MIT OWC

  • @akshat1234100
    @akshat1234100 4 роки тому +9

    i love the 720p after watching 6.006 in 360p

  • @SkSami007
    @SkSami007 9 років тому +7

    A bunch of thanks for your video lessons. It really helps me understand the Algorithm a way deeper..

  • @jimmypi7
    @jimmypi7 5 років тому +5

    Did anyone find maybe the definition of rank at :
    501 00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:53,880 And so in general, we're going to define, given a set of n numbers, define rank of x
    502 00:53:53,880 --> --00:54:06--,510 as the numbers in the set that are greater than-- I'm sorry, less than or equal to x.
    503 00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:09,270 I mean, you could have defined it differently. We're going to go with less than or equal
    504 00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:10,750 to.
    is a typo?
    I checked the written note and find "number of numbers in the set that are smaller than x" makes more sense compared to rank defined on the black board in the video as "numbers in the set that are smaller than x"
    In short :
    "number of numbers in the set" versus "numbers in the set "

  • @niazahmad7823
    @niazahmad7823 5 місяців тому

    I initially found it confusing when, around the 38:00 mark, it seemed like every single element in the left hull was being compared with b1. This led me to wonder if, in the worst case, we might end up comparing every element of the left hull with every element of the right hull, which would be highly inefficient. However, that’s not actually the case.
    The reason they compare elements with b1 is because b1 represents the maximum value at that point in the process. The code clarifies that each element is processed only once. For example, if b4 proves to be a better candidate, it replaces b1 and the comparison moves forward. If b1 was revisited, it would indicate that no better candidate was found, meaning b1 only needs to be processed as the best candidate for that moment. Apologies if I didn’t explain it clearly.

  • @ceciliaw1065
    @ceciliaw1065 2 роки тому

    Crystal clear explanation, what an amazing lecturer, just wow

  • @shawnyang2851
    @shawnyang2851 Місяць тому

    The median finding algorithm is so clever

  • @vermoidvermoid7124
    @vermoidvermoid7124 7 років тому +10

    really good lecture, well explained.. especially the visual cues

  • @weitengli179
    @weitengli179 5 років тому +6

    44:00 Gift wrapping may be better than devide & conquer; it has O(nh) time complexity (not nlogn as the professor mentioned), where n is the number of points and h is the number of points on the convex hull.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_wrapping_algorithm

    • @erikjohnson1925
      @erikjohnson1925 4 роки тому +2

      Good point! And if one allows for an output sensitive algorithm, then the asymptotically optimal algorithm is either Chin's Algorithm or Kirkpatrick-Seidel with O(n log h) time

    • @keelwakamar
      @keelwakamar 4 роки тому +1

      Can't i propose a situation where all points are on the convex hull?
      If that case were true, then it's complexity would basically be O(n²) right?

    • @erikjohnson1925
      @erikjohnson1925 4 роки тому +2

      @@keelwakamar I don't think this is correct. I think that if you keep track of points on the hull, you only need to check the "open" end (assuming that point is actually on the hull e.g. lowest x-value point which can be found in O(n)). This means the number of points to check decreases by 1 on every iteration

    • @keelwakamar
      @keelwakamar 4 роки тому +2

      @@erikjohnson1925 you still get O(n²) when you do asymptomatic analysis on that.
      You can try it yourself, or check how selection sort is O(n²) eventhough it does exactly what you mentioned.

    • @erikjohnson1925
      @erikjohnson1925 4 роки тому +1

      @@keelwakamar My mistake, you are completely correct. For some reason, I really expected that case to degenerate to O(n log n). I guess you need Chin's Algorithm or Kirkpatrick-Seidel to get the O(n log n) when all points lie on the hull

  • @kirillkozlov5395
    @kirillkozlov5395 5 років тому

    b2 and b4 switch places at 36:15, so the points in "b" sub-convex hull become ordered counter-clockwise

  • @superdupe8
    @superdupe8 4 роки тому +14

    convex hull explanation = good
    median finding = not so good. Then again, I feel like he didn't have enough time. There's a lot of steps to the median problem, but he was definitely rushing through it and more or less just telling the answer instead of giving much intuition behind it.

  • @SphereofTime
    @SphereofTime 26 днів тому

    43:57 T(n)= +theta(n)=Theta(Logn)
    MMerging Convex hull
    .

  • @kaushikmangaprasad4575
    @kaushikmangaprasad4575 7 років тому +6

    So is he finding the median of medians using the same approach again?

  • @o.y.930
    @o.y.930 4 роки тому +1

    can somebody explain why is it T(n/5) and not 5T(n/5) in 1:17:29. Aren't we doing the recursion 5 times each step.

    • @mytennisjourney4949
      @mytennisjourney4949 4 роки тому +1

      N elements divided into N/5 columns, each column is sorted by constant time, every column has a median, so there are N/5 medians. And we use algorithm recursively, we find the median of these medians, which means T(n / 5)

    • @mytennisjourney4949
      @mytennisjourney4949 4 роки тому

      The key point here is that the problem we need to solve is find median, we assume we solve the problem, and we use this solution to find “median of medians” (pick X in lesion), to help us solve the problem “find a median”.

  • @dohyun0047
    @dohyun0047 4 роки тому +3

    In median of median do we sort the "medians" row too?
    if not how can we guarantee those picture? @1:12:11

    • @gnpar
      @gnpar 3 роки тому +1

      You don't need to sort them or arrange them like that, you just need to find the median of that row. The pictures are simply to show that once you find it, you have a situation where roughly half of the elements are < x and roughly half are > x. Once you have x you go back to the original problem and, since your pivot is now roughly in the middle, you have O(n) complexity on the D&C algorithm.

  • @jayhoeliotdecabrio4050
    @jayhoeliotdecabrio4050 3 роки тому

    please note that the diagram numbering is done worng by mistake if you trace the algorithm with the diagram drawn by professor then you will get confused so check out the notes at ocw.

  • @donotreportmebro
    @donotreportmebro Рік тому +1

    53:40 Big Theta is rarely satisfactory. We want big O to be optimal, specifically O(n) in the case of finding a median.

  • @shampoable
    @shampoable 4 роки тому +2

    assuming the result of ConvexHull(Set) is a doubly linked list, wouldn't combining two of them be O(1), as only 4 points need to be linked?

    • @tuhinmukherjee8141
      @tuhinmukherjee8141 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, true but the complexity lies in the determination of the four points to be linked.

  • @ericwilson8665
    @ericwilson8665 3 роки тому

    Fantastic example. That's so appreciated. Made it so clear.

  • @charlottetreesageorge2230
    @charlottetreesageorge2230 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making this available for all

  • @niazahmad7823
    @niazahmad7823 5 місяців тому

    "while (y(i, j + 1) > y(i, j) or y(i − 1, j) > y(i, j))
    if (y(i, j + 1) > y(i, j)) [ move right finger clockwise
    j = j + 1( mod q)" My question is how is this code moving the point in the clock-wise direction it is just incrementing j and there could be a point that has j just next to the one we are currrently on and it could lie in the anti-clock wise fashion. How is this code making sure that it moves it in the clockwise direction?

  • @hungrypigeon7246
    @hungrypigeon7246 4 роки тому +1

    How do we prove that the figure formed in the first case by joining the segments convex?

  • @JSGT9016
    @JSGT9016 3 місяці тому +1

    I wish i could be intelligent enough to understand this enough to make it into code....but I am below average IQ for this.

  • @olier1
    @olier1 8 років тому +17

    2015 and one of the best Technical University still use blackboard

  • @lekhoa6552
    @lekhoa6552 8 років тому +2

    awesome explanations!!!

  • @loona8398
    @loona8398 4 місяці тому

    I really don't know why I have such a thick brain when it comes to algorithms?

  • @stormanning1163
    @stormanning1163 7 років тому

    Excellent explanations!

  • @jeongminyoun5388
    @jeongminyoun5388 4 роки тому

    Where did 7n+7/10 + 7 come from in the end?

  • @naomim1207
    @naomim1207 4 роки тому

    Why used a Doubly Linked List for Convex Hull?

  • @Tibetan-experience
    @Tibetan-experience 9 років тому +2

    thank you

  • @Drethron
    @Drethron 8 років тому +3

    May not divide and concur as easily but couldn't you average all of the points to find the center, then determine if a point is a smaller raduis away relative to the points on either side?
    Either way, very nice videos so far.

    • @tear728
      @tear728 8 років тому +1

      I'm pretty sure that would be O (n^2) still. I might be wrong on that though

  • @thinhnguyenvan7003
    @thinhnguyenvan7003 3 роки тому

    Can someone explain for me that. Why Arrange S into columns of size 5 and sort each column take linear time?
    suppose that sorting take oder nlogn. So time complex here is k* 5log5 time which is k equal n/5.

    • @gnpar
      @gnpar 3 роки тому

      You just explained it yourself. You ended up with complexity (n/5)5log5. That's n multiplied by some constant log5, it's still O(n). Note that it would be exactly the same if sorting took n^4 or 4^n, it doesn't matter, you're always sorting five elements.

  • @SandyRocks007
    @SandyRocks007 6 років тому +3

    Merging convex hull 23:59

    • @Renembrence
      @Renembrence 6 років тому

      You fucking saint I love you

  • @DommageCollateral
    @DommageCollateral 2 роки тому

    thanks. better than my frkn uni

  • @badr-eddineelbatouri4544
    @badr-eddineelbatouri4544 3 роки тому +1

    there is a small problem, when having n point we can only draw n*(n-1)*2 segments not n*n. having 3 point ABC will result in AB AC BC BA CA BC and if we are using dynamic programming we can remove the BA CA CB thus AB AC BC only.

    • @venkateshnaresh966
      @venkateshnaresh966 2 роки тому

      yes, that's true. But look at the order of growth. The dominant term here is n^2. The linear term is ignored since it doesn't grow as fast as the quadratic term

    • @WeirdAlSuperFan
      @WeirdAlSuperFan 2 роки тому

      Yeah that's O(n^2). Also you meant n(n-1)/2 (n choose 2). Don't sweat the small stuff in complexity calculations

  • @bhavneetsingh6893
    @bhavneetsingh6893 7 років тому

    why it is n3 at 20:45

    • @diegoarcelli8902
      @diegoarcelli8902 4 роки тому

      I think because there are O(n^2) possible segments and for each of them you have to verify if the n points (except for the two crossed by the segment) are all in one of the two half plain defined by the segment. So you do an O(n) operation O(n^2) times therefore the cost is O(n^3).

  • @dineshjagai
    @dineshjagai 6 років тому

    Great lecture :D

  • @brendawilliams8062
    @brendawilliams8062 3 роки тому

    Thx.

  • @rbrtchng
    @rbrtchng 8 років тому +4

    how do you get the medium of mediums?

    • @anmol-gupta
      @anmol-gupta 5 років тому +1

      If we have n/5 columns then to find the median of medians we'll have to call the Select function on the list of medians. We're basically computing 1 subproblem that is 1/5th the size of the original. Hence, the T(n/5) term for finding the median of medians.

  • @videofountain
    @videofountain 8 років тому +1

    At this time point ua-cam.com/video/EzeYI7p9MjU/v-deo.htmlh1m27s ... the chalk writing was likely intended to be recursively ...
    [return Select(C, i-k)] ... rather than
    ##[return (C, i -k)]##.
    [Select] function name for recursion.

  • @kevidimitrisceci8096
    @kevidimitrisceci8096 4 роки тому

    I don't know why someone has to go to university when exists this.

    • @olaafelumo4754
      @olaafelumo4754 4 роки тому

      Dimitris Ceci I know right ? But you get tested in school. You don’t get tested here

  • @holdenmcgroin8917
    @holdenmcgroin8917 3 роки тому +2

    The BS stops at 7:10

  • @mritunjay_99
    @mritunjay_99 4 роки тому

    Where is Morty?

  • @bisnusarkar9678
    @bisnusarkar9678 6 років тому

    it is an awesome lecture...

  • @shubhamtalks9718
    @shubhamtalks9718 7 років тому

    median finding ua-cam.com/video/EzeYI7p9MjU/v-deo.html 52:18

  • @KeshariPiyush24
    @KeshariPiyush24 3 роки тому

    Median of Median part is not good....other than that amazing lecture

  • @Upendra237
    @Upendra237 7 місяців тому +1

    🎉

  • @rishabharijeet4151
    @rishabharijeet4151 Рік тому

    40:33

  • @Outloud444
    @Outloud444 6 років тому

    Merging 2 groups … as they both want ALL the MONEY -- good luck --- Pay to Play -- Money is #1

  • @marlow893
    @marlow893 8 років тому +6

    recording could be better if at least a few seconds is left to see the board without the teacher. easier to take notes.

    • @atulavhad1661
      @atulavhad1661 7 років тому +11

      You could pause the video while taking notes or download the subscripts. Also, lecture notes are available on ocw.mit.edu

  • @nikolapetrovic4415
    @nikolapetrovic4415 4 роки тому

    Whether this video is accelerated or this guy just has too fast movements?

  • @aobcd.8663
    @aobcd.8663 4 роки тому

    I feel other videos for DS are more useful than these famous universities.
    These guys presume you know everything

  • @tirthjayswal9895
    @tirthjayswal9895 5 років тому

    bestttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

  • @jamesbrean8004
    @jamesbrean8004 8 місяців тому

    LoL

  • @prajapatarun5711
    @prajapatarun5711 4 роки тому

    Again Indian fella

  • @faisalsal1
    @faisalsal1 5 років тому +5

    The course is too much abstract and theoretical with a high dose of verbosity. Just cut the chase and demonstrate using a sample of numbers how the algorithm finds the medium? Too much beating around the bush without hitting the point. I believe these kind of courses are only to pass the exams but definitely useless if preparing for technical interviews or to solve any programming challenge.

  • @rahulkashyap840
    @rahulkashyap840 6 років тому +1

    kya bkwas pda rh a h yaar

  • @debarkasengupta5351
    @debarkasengupta5351 6 років тому

    Slides would save a lot of his time, perhaps more content can be delivered.

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  6 років тому +2

      Lecture notes are available on MIT OpenCourseWare at: ocw.mit.edu/6-046JS15. Best wishes on your studies!

    • @ankushm3t
      @ankushm3t 4 роки тому +5

      meh, slides are bad for teaching IMO. I found all black board type lectures much easier to follow even at 1.5x speed

  • @Outloud444
    @Outloud444 6 років тому +1

    Funny .. YOU ALL would wind up DEAD -- using this formula -- you are better off -- using John Nash's Equilibrium Theory