Imagine being sent to alpha Centauri on a fusion ship you spent 90 years on only to arrive and find humans there because about 20 years after you left someone figured out how to use a black hole drive
but imagine that the humans who used a black hole drive arrived to find that humans have been living on Alpha Centauri for years after arriving via Quantum Teleportation! Dang, hate when that happens!
@@davids.654 The Trump kids are great. Heck, even Hillary admitted that at the end of the 2nd or 3rd debate. Oh, and it looks like we're going back to the moon before Trump leaves office. Then onto Mars.
Think about how much faster how internet speed has gotten over the past 50 years. It used to be 2.4 kbps and now it's 6000 mbps (publicly available). That's 6.000.000 kbps. Or in other words 250.000 times faster than it used to be. We simply need new innovations.
I don't know if I've ever gotten this man's name, but I've watched a lot PBS Space Time and I really like the more laid-back style he has in this video: he's more animated, he's making jokes, and he has a little grin like he's just in his zone and loving it. I guess what I'm saying is that I find his enthusiasm in this video more engaging than his more rigid presentation in other videos.
@@icinnalatte Maybe not. But the furthest that a human has ever traveled from earth is the moon, and we haven't even done that for fifty years. Suddenly we are going to solve all the logistical problems for safely transporting a live human 100 million times as far as that to the nearest star?
London Falling hmmmm.. quite an assumption to think people are thinking about the scientific stuff INSTEAD OF celebrity gossip as opposed to thinking of both. Scientists come home from work and get into meaningless celeb gossip as an escape. Just sayin
It's a little bit depressing knowing that in my lifetime, we might send a probe to another star but it will take so long to get there, and for any information to be sent back, that I almost certainly (without a major breakthrough in the cure for aging) will not see the results.
+Lutranereis If we send the light sail in the next 2 decades, I miiight be lucky to be alive on the arrival of the informations! (I am 22 currently) I just need the entire world to get together and cooperate for my selfish reason of wanting to know more about space :P
A spaceship miscalculated and hits a planet at 10% speed light with nukes on board, or a pile of unspent anti-matter...whoa, not a good way to introduce yourself.
More like strange matter and you transform their entire world into a strange world. Of course theoretically, this is what would happen according to some physicists.
Sam kela maybe that was our civilization that hit the Earth presumably in a “meteor” but maybe it wasnt a meteor but rather some technology like in the video from another solar system. 🤔
That awkward moment when you actually have the tech to reach 10% the speed of light in a ship... then collide with a particle of matter the size of a grain of sand and watch your ship get destroyed 😂😭
It's a matter of size. If you think an interstellar spaceship will be the size of a bus, or maybe even an aircraft carrier, yeah, sand=problem. But an interstellar spaceship will likely need to be bigger than all boats, ships, bikes, trikes, cars and planes ever built, combined. And weigh multi-billions of tons. Moving fast isn't particularly necessary: Making a ship that can support life indefinitely and trundle along, only pausing to gather supplies at other star-systems, is a much more feasible-with-what-we-know approach.
Well, half the religions live in the 17th century like Islam, Hinduism etc. Even here, half the country is filled with morons who infest the republican party. The uber moron is in the White House. So....
I was surprised that a big issue with traveling to the stars was not mentioned: friction and collisions. Even at .1C you're going to get an awful lot of erosion just from hydrogen atoms you encounter in interstellar space. At .8C that much worse. Just from the atoms you'd have to have a very strong shielding system of some sort to ensure your spacecraft doesn't simply get worn down to a nub and fall apart before you get a large part of the way to Alpha Centauri. And that doesn't take into account bigger things, like little pebbles or even microscopic bits of debris like molecules that could cause serious damage given their kinetic energy in relation to the spacecraft. Going at those kinds of speeds your inertia keeps you on track and it's difficult to see something far enough ahead to avoid the object if it's big, impossible if it's small. Electromagnetic shields could deal with smaller particles perhaps, and physical, ablative shields for the bigger, but that adds serious mass.
@@sorh Not in general terms. There is an inversely proportional relationship between mass and acceleration, assuming constant thrust (force), but you can get massive objects going very very fast on relatively small thrust if the thrust can be maintained for a long time.
3:52 It would actually take 2*sqrt(2) times as long to reach Alpha Centuri because your average speed is much faster on the second half of the voyage than on the first half when you don't decelerate. Thus, it would take about 124 years instead of 90.
He also mentioned that you’d need half the fuel to slow down at the other end, that’s wrong as well because there is less mass to slow down (since you’ve already lost a lot of mass to accelerate).
3:40 "we need to use half of our fuel to slow down at the other end" No, half your delta-v. Depending on what fraction of the initial mass is fuel, these could be enormously different quantities.
I think what he means is going from 0 to x back to 0 without anything but the fuel, which if he is, then he'd be theoretically correct (Assuming I'm doing my quick math correctly). Factoring in everything else would prove him wrong, but he probably didn't add those in either for simplification reason, or because he simply forgot to do so
He used the momentum p1 + v1 = p2 + v2 so the amount of energy to get to a certain speed would need the same (minus what weight in fuel you’ve already used) to slow down. The ratios would be 2:3 or something
Don't believe everything he says. His calculations are wrong. 5:58 says we can reach alpha centauri in 3.3 years but it's impossible since light itself(fastest thing in the universe) can't get there THAT fast.
He said the journey would take 3.3 years in the astronauts perspective due to time dilation. So, it means that, in the perspective of those who stayed, the journey would take a longer time to reach its destination.
why not stop moving and let those planets come to us. because i think our sun and our solar systems is moving 800,000km/hr in our galaxy. if there is a space vessel that will stop moving relative to our solar systems, its like waiting for an elevator and the elevator is the planet we want to go to like the trappist planets.
This works in a solar system because of local gravitational effects, yes. However the theory breaks down when you start talking about interstellar travel. The reason for this is relative velocity. Yes, our solar system is moving at a high speed, but so is the target solar system. There's really no way to cancel our momentum and have that take us to another star. We have to just take our relative velocities into account, aiming for where the star will be when we are projected to arrive. Basically, it's like being an archer on horseback trying to shoot an arrow at another archer on horseback moving in a different direction.
Joaquin Michelini, I know you posted this 9 months ago, but to answer you: If we are traveling at near the speed of light, we would perceive the time to only take 3.3 years and we would only age by 3.3 years.
"One design, our best chance. What do we build?" That line gave me chills for some reason. I'm imagining some kind of game or series about the necessity of following that idea, having to FIND that one design and make sure that it actually gets recognized as such. There could be some real twists and turns with new discoveries, shifting which option(s) you support and which you squash down, with multiple paths leading to different time scales for the ultimate escape. Maybe your support for your favorite option actually ends up disregarding the promising discoveries in favor of another option, that turns out to actually BE faster and you end up getting left behind in retributiuon for having actively worked AGAINST what turns out to be *our best chance* in the end.
+Luis Alejandro Carrasco Molina Actually, the kugelblitz is an artificial black hole. You make it by concentrating an extremely high intensity of light in a very small region of space. If you can also give the new black hole electric charge (feed it some electrons) then you can suspend it in a magnetic field. The charged radiation it produces can be channeled by magnetic fields as propellant or the heat can be used to power a conventional generator. However you're right to think that it's a big challenge to harness very high energies. We don't have the materials to capture the highest energy non-charged products of proton-anti-proton annihilation, for example, and I imagine the same may be true for this Hawking radiation.
+PBS Space Time I was wondering how can we hold a black hole in place when you mentioned it in the video. Good thing that you explained it here. Although it'd be good to mention in a video. In the next video's comment section, perhaps?
+PBS Space Time wouldn't the biggest problems with the kugelblitz be generating the massive amounts of energy needed and then focusing that energy into lasers. You would need lasers pumping 53 octillion joules into a single point nearly instantaneously. That's more energy that our sun produces per second.
+PBS Space Time But... it's a black hole.. am I the only one terrified of it, you know... eating the ship for breakfast? Is it because it's so small that it could be contained?
UnknownXV Black holes don't suck anything in. They have gravity yes but that gravity is only as strong as the mass equivalent contained within the black hole and it's only once you get near the event horizon that things will get screwy. the 600 billion kg of mass mentioned wouldn't even be noticeable gravity wise.
The problem with lasers is divergence. Early on you might have a nicely collimated beam, but there is no laser with 0 mRad of divergence. The farther away you get from the source, the lower the energy density of the beam gets.
A modular starship would have a great deal more versatility, be further expansible, and would alter velocity/vector with less duress, maybe even allowing for gravity to assist in such transitions.
do they really exist??? Not bkackholes, Farts?!?! I know girls don't fart!!But they do have blackholes!lmao thank you!!! I'll be here all week & you can buy CDs in the lobby
It makes a lot of sense to ignore the Wait equation and just launch as soon as we have something feasible. It provides a benchmark, we enjoy learnings, geopolitical situations may change, and being able to create faster craft is partially just theory.
Plus, you have to find astronauts who are willing and psychologically totally accepting of the risks of dying enroute, so the "I'll wait to go later with better tech" wouldn't be a factor.
"So we don't see any ducks, but something's quacking and eating all our bread sticks." Classic, and pretty cool that we now HAVE seen gravitational waves since this video. Onward, science!
Hollowed out asteroid with some engines slapped on it's ass, takes care of shielding from objects and radiation. Stick a whole bunch of cameras all over the surface and have display screens on the inside instead of windows so you an still see cool shit as you fly by, obvious radars and detection equipment with hi powered lasers to intercept the larger objects that may do more damage. All the little stuff like micro dust will just slam right into us, leaving us cool craters to check out with our surface cameras,
@@ryandeal5872 This video was posted back in 2015, what was theory in 2015 is now fact in late 2019. And to over think it, " Gravitational Waves " were mention back in 1960's when Star Trek first aired. 60 years is not bad for a kid sitting on the living room floor watching a black & white tv going wow...! To an 70 year old man going " I found them ! I Found Them !"
Hello I'm from the nearby year of 2030. Human's didn't make it to the stars. Society has collapsed, what's left of us all is but scattered factions under the rule of King Kirkman, the tyranical Tioletpaper King. The one who discovered the lost toilet paper vault, some say there's a thousand years worth of toilet paper in the vault that was meant for the people who survived the apocalypse to build anew. Unfortunately it was Kirkman who found it first and at that moment he became the most powerful being alive. With his newfound power he crowned himself the first King in the end times. King Kirtman forged himself an empire that was unmatched with a legion of soldiers that would not go unwiped. Although it does not seem all hope is lost, the one known as Charmin of Clan Ultra seeks to unite the people and defeat Kirkman so that our children's children will never go unwiped.
😂🤣 I've just found this channel and I'm loving it! Especially at the end when someone asked "why are we even talking about gravitational waves when the don't exist " and LIGO has found them and Weiss, Barish & Thorne won a Nobel Prize for it and only 2 yrs later (2017)
@ if we can mobilize the entire earth, ignoring the fact that more than %99 of total population would die and at least billion would fight themselves in other to get to the ships, which will slow down the progress even more
I've seen, I think it was Kurzgesagt's treatment of this topic. But I had no idea this channel existed til recently, and I'm excited to see their take on it!
Imagine being the pioneering human on a ship going sub-light speed to Alpha Centari, and when you finally get there, humans have been there for years cause they had a faster ship
We don't have to intentionally travel to other stars. We could build self sustaining space habitats such as Stanford Torus's, O'Neill Cylinders and Bernal Spheres. With resources in the asteroid belt, the kuiper belt, the oort cloud and with comets and even rogue planets, we would spread our way to the distant stars in much the same way that ancient man migrated over the world just by building another village over the next hill. Multiple self sustaining habitats are also our best defense against extinction events. Such habitats could easily become a reality in mere decades and as with any real estate, could potentially net a return on investment.
Except the distance between star systems is positively gigantic compared to the size of the solar system. There's nothing of use between here and there. It is light years and light years of total emptiness. It's like saying Europeans could have traveled to the New World just by building an outpost every few miles in the Atlantic so people could just swim across. Except there aren't even fish in space.
We still need to spread across the galaxy in order for our species to survive: all humans being in various habitats (planets, asteroids or artificial habitats) in the same small area of the galaxy makes us vulnerable to supernovae explosions. If one explodes in our proximity in the near future, we are toasted. Literally.
@@anthonydesportes9968 I didn't say that we didn't need to spread across interstellar space, just that we only need to be able to live in interstellar space to do so. Stone age man did not intentionally cross over to six of the seven continents, they simply built villages beyond the next hill. Just being able to build and maintain O'Neill cylinders, Bernal Spheres and the occasional Stanford Torus out of resources such as comets, asteroids and rogue planets in interstellar space would inadvertently take us to other star systems. Even a generation ship is essentially such a habitat. With our current technology, it is constructing such habitats that will take us to the stars and it would do so without us even trying once we are building such habitats.
@@EnDSchultz1 Yet already we have been mapping rogue planets, dwarf planets and brown dwarfs in nearby interstellar space. Interstellar space isn't as empty as you are imagining and without as many planetary gravity wells to interfere with navigation, accessing those resources should be quite straight forward as long as you can wait for the deliveries which self sustaining habitats should be able to do so. Remember that a single asteroid or comet would be enough resources for centuries to millennia for several such habitats. The fact that we recently had an interstellar object pass through our solar system recently shows that interstellar space is not without resources.
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It would be amazing if our attempt to reach another planet so that we don't go extinct, is the cause of our extinction due to war with an advanced species because they consider it an attack. Except it wouldn't be a war, they would simply annihilate us the way we do a hive of insects.
@@t.a.7970 "Humans are like the fleas on the carcass of the dog they killed waiting for another dog to pass by so they can leap on and do the same thing." With this view of your own species, what else can we conclude but that all humans should be eradicated? You first. Fred
Wait. What if the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, was a "alien-maned"-probe in a desperate and failed attempt of a spacefaring civilization to excape their own dieing world and colonize Earth - a planet trillions of miles away and the only habitable planet they discovered in their sky?! *wooah*
Big. The relativistic kinetic energy of a grain of space dust weighing 1 gram traveling at 0.1c is 452 gigajoules - equivalent to 113 tons of TNT. I don't know if one gram is a good approximate weight for space dust but if it is then hopefully the dust is really diffuse.
That means L1. we need a lot more of energy to support an "energy shield" Though, impacts slow the ship down. L2.....so long as we have a fusion reactor....E=MC2 the hell out of that mater and use it to further propel us. Fusion Bombs?. L3. Use excess energy to clear debris in the path (ha. Space ship turns on its headlights) and direct the debris to be collected.
OMG I was thinking the same thing. However, in Event Horizon, the black hole tech was used to power an artificial wormhole and not propulsion. Like the movie explains, they fold a piece of paper and punch a pencil through. It was the space between the paper that ended up being Hell or something like it. Dimensional travel would be interesting.
You just made the hair on arms and legs stand up by mentioning that movie. I saw it at the movies as a kid during a storm and the movie theater power & movie started flashing on and off . Nothing to do with that weird experience & have seen it a few times in my adult life & just something about it that creeps me out like crazy & I’m actually a huge horror fan & movie buff & not many movies that bother me or can’t or won’t watch, but something about it that makes it the most terrifying thing I’ve ever seen.
@@ryanmurphy1985 I think its Sam Neil's performance. Every character he plays is intense. Similar to hugo weaving. Not to mention digging your own eyes out and string people up. I saw it as a teen with my mom...my choice. Love it.
The Harpsped Effect Those are some very good point you bring up. I’m 33 now, so has been quite a few years since I’ve seen it & usually when It happens to be on Showtime, Or Cinemax or something it’s the middle of the night when I’m up with insomnia while everyone else is sound asleep In bedroom so that probably doesn’t help (lol) And I’m curious about that other actor you mentioned as I can’t picture who it is or does the name sound familiar off the top of my head.
Memes have been here for more than 10 thousand years. Talk about pre history and ideas in their artifacts and such. If you think about it, those are memes, abstracted ideas. Just that its not funny necessarily.
@@thewormholetv7228 Exactly and because of that example the humans dont deserve any of these technology because we as race are to stupid, ressource consuming assholes, and we should just live on the earth and die without colonizing anything.
Space travel should be done right...and in style. I don't want to be poking along on a 90 year mission to Earth 2.0 and get passed by some kid going 0.8c at year 80. Use the nukes to move that asteroid, then make more anti-matter!
Such a funny but very realistic point of view. I have mentioned this same idea to my friend. It wouldnt be worth leaving too early if technology orders of magnitude better would be around before you got there because they might just actually get there first haha!
Or even more realistic !!!!! get there to a barren, dead ........ rock, why are humans soooooo stupid to not just ..... figure out the best thing to protect what we have now .
Since the starship would have to be quite large and be built in space. We would be better off capturing an asteroid and insert into earth orbit. Then they could hollow it out. The asteroid would carry much of the materials they would need to build it using robots and 3d printers. Ideally, build it in a way so they could replace the engines on the go. Then if they are able to design a better propulsion system they would be able to integrate it into the ship. With scientists and engineers having just under 50 years, they would definitely have enough time to advance technology.
When you are in space; can you harvest static electricity and turn that into power for deep space exploration? Since light will be harder to collect at a far. Also has anyone looked into using magnetic fields from our sun and planets as a means of travel; meaning creating a space shuttle that can be negatively charged to get pushed by the suns mostly positive field? you can build a giant solar magnetic "net" that you can extend for travel purpose then collapse in means of slowing down or for maneuvering. dont be afraid to message me, ive been thinking about means of travel through space for awhile
yeah i've thought about something like that and looked it up before, the problem is that the magnetic poles are far too weak to cause any reliable acceleration
Static electricity is not equivalent to normal electricity. Since there's no closed circuit, the charge will accumulate on the craft until it reaches equilibrium with the ambient charge.
Could you supplement a kugelblitz's mass with matter and use that to create a hybrid kugel/matter black hole? Also could you, instead of or in tandem with lasers(assuming we get to that point) use a particle accelerator to supplement the energy required? Or would the apparatus be so big that you'd be better off using one or the other?
What about using some combination of solar sails and fusion engines? Use the solar sails with lasers at the start to accelerate to a high % light speed, and then use the fusion engines on the other end to slow down. You'd only need to carry half the fuel you would if you used the fusion engine the whole way.
The reason you can't go through a wormhole is because the point of connection between spacetime is frozen in time, so even though both spaces are connected, you can't get past the point where you don't get to have the next moment.
+Eshan Das Shielding is a huge issue, you're right. The faster you go, even the smallest of objects can cause great damage on impact. Imagine trying to get out of the Oort Cloud traveling that fast! The good thing, though, is by increasing your speed you actually limit an object's ability to collide with you based solely on that object's own trajectory -- you'd have to run into it head-on basically.
+Joseph Proffer not sure that i follow you on that, but in my head im thinking of when i try to throw my mashed potatoes into the ceiling fan-- i rarely ever hit the fan and my potatoes just sail through to the ceiling above...
theonlyari Yes, exactly! You'd have to hit the blade dead on, the speed limits the ability of the fan blade to impact your potatoes. You could think of this in an opposite manner: if your potatoes were travelling very slowly, the blade suddenly has an even greater chance of coming into contact with them. The problem with the Oort Cloud, however and sadly, is that there are a loooot of fan blades. haha
+Eshan Das well, we sometimes avoid them on Earth, but we have an atmosphere that causes friction which leads to most objects disintegrating. With a mini black hole, I wonder what sort of gravitational forces could be expected and if that would be enough to retain an atmosphere, though we'd also have to consider solar winds. The black hole would also generate a magnetic field. Ultimately, I think we're going to need an artificial mini planet with a black hole at its core. Also the probability of hitting an object is actually really small and decreases quite rapidly outside the solar system. The Star Wars asteroid fields don't really exist. Entropy is such that things tend to spread out evenly.
+Eshan Das we don't. there is not much out there n space, debris is collected by larger objects. the interstellar space is just that: space. it would be actually pretty surprising to hit something. other than that: by travelling so faast,you push a blast wave of particles in front of you, they could act as a shield by vaporising stuff in front of you.
Why none of this will most likely ever happen, just one of the examples: US Military spendings (2015) - 600 billion USD US Science spendings including NASA budget (2015) - 30 billion USD Similar is true for EU, Russia, China, India, Japan, etc. The point being, people who rule the world couldn't give less fucks about space, most of them are too unintelligent and uneducated to think about the future, and too busy finding ways to blow someone else up in order to take a little bit more useless land that they don't need because they've got more than they can handle at the moment anyway. Let's face it, the world has only seen rapid evolution of space travel one, during the Cold War, and we all know that the point of that evolution was NOT science or new discovery, it was pure politics and flexing muscles. If the world was ran by scientists, engineers, doctor, etc. we'd be colonizing other planets and star systems already, but sadly, the world was always ran and most likely always will be ran by old farts who live in the past and don't have the intellectual capacity required to push the world forward.
That's because of private contracting. Vary few in the private sector make a profit from NASA, and thus vary little lobbying is done for a increased budget. Military spending on the other hand is almost almost everything is contracted out to the private sector. Thus you have more alot more lobbying for increased military budget.
beaconrider It depends on the level of technology said colony starts with. if the colony had access to something along the lines of a Universal constructor (Molecular Assembler) and adequate power source. At which point resupplies become unnecessary.
War is an excelent motivation for advancement if no conflict existet there wouldnt be as much drive to push forward. In a completely peacefull world progress would actualy slow down.
0.1 speed of light achieved in 20 days turns out to be 1.77 G's. Rather uncomfortable for 20 days. If you reduce to 1 G the time goes to ~35 days. (a = (v2 - v1)/t) Seems like a better way to go.
I wouldn't mind 2Gs so long as I could safely pressure release my spine daily via an inversion table or something like that. The effort may require more calories though.
Bah, 1.77 g's, anyone without a heart condition could easily take that for 20 days. It would be slightly annoying to walk and stay balanced since you'd fall faster, but you'll be on board a small ship, not running around and performing heavy manual labor anyway. It's not enough weight to even be very annoying from the weight itself.
If we ever become advanced enough to upload minds, would it be worth it to create a much smaller "colony satellite" that has digital copies of people rather than real people? Or is this nonsensical?
It would be a lot more efficient to send frozen human embryos, to be incubated after the ship reaches its destination. Assuming that it's possible to make artificial wombs, and that robots could build a habitat and take care of the kids until they grew up, you could make the spaceship super small and light weight. That way, it wouldn't bankrupt the human race to try and accelerate a battleship to 0.1 C, instead, you could accelerate a ship the size of a bass boat. Speed it up with rockets and a light sail, and slow it down with an ion drive, and you might have a human colony on an alien world in 20,000 years.
' Well enough' is a low bar considering the way a lot of kids get neglected and abused by human parents, but still make it into adulthood. AI could possibly be up to the challenge of providing basic necessities, and education to the first generation. I assume, that, after arrival, the mission could use raw materials and energy of the new solar system. Perhaps the spacecraft could spend a few centuries mining asteroids and building a lander to send down to the surface of a habitable planet.
I'm a bit confused on how going at 10% C would work in real life. Let's say I was going that fast, wouldn't that mean when the rocket smashes into tiny debris on the way (and it will) they would hit the rocket with the energy of their mass times 10% C squared? Wouldn't that completely destroy any space ship?
That energy isn't 'mass times 10% c squared' because the collision isn't fast enough to be relativistic, but it's still pretty high. You'd need some sort of shielding. Project Daedalus proposed doing it like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus#Concept " The ship's payload bay containing its sub-probes, telescopes, and other equipment would be protected from the interstellar medium during transit by a beryllium disk, up to 7 mm thick, weighing up to 50 tonnes. This erosion shield would be made from beryllium due to its lightness and high latent heat of vaporisation. Larger obstacles that might be encountered while passing through the target system would be dispersed by an artificially generated cloud of particles, ejected by support vehicles called dust bugs about 200 km ahead of the vehicle. The spacecraft would carry a number of robot wardens capable of autonomously repairing damage or malfunctions. "
Bad End Happy yes, the starship would need some kind of magnetic shielding or spacedust collisions would be catastrophic. Hopefully we can come up a gravity/antigravity drive to bend space and not have to deal with stuff like that.
The light sail options is interesting, if we start launching them every 3 months give or take whatever, communication back to earth would be fine. Each light sail would piggy back communication back to earth with a bit of alacrity.
Incorrect, if the ending location is 4.5 light year away, and since NO communication can go faster than the speed of light it will still take 4.5 years to reach us, even if you have a huge string of interconnected light sails...
@@dominiqueridoux2073 If we start from now and send messages to the 4.5 light years away star (assuming there will be Life advance enough to response back) We have to send regular messages for 4.5 years every day (Probably asking question about them , the tech and Environment) After 4.5 years , we will receive there first message which will answer our first question and the next day we will receive the second messages (assuming they respond to us the same day) So in this case , you can say a type of direct communication can exist!
@@abdr3941 I see what you’re saying but it still doesn’t have the nuance of a conversation held in real time. Yes you’ll get an answer to your first question, but your response will still take 4.5 years to reach them. If you keep stacking those, you’re only getting a delayed response every day, not true direct communication. In a way tho you’re absolutely right and I want to point that out, I’m just being pedantic
@@ThePixelExpedition I thought my comment was pretty clear, but here again: Can i, loturzel, recommend you, pixel expedition, some science-youtube-channel and/or education-channel? Cause i like the idea of me spreading education and fun?
I've watched a few of these videos about interstellar travel and they never mention deflector shielding. Hitting a small particle at that speed can be devastating.
That is one of the big problems. At relativistic speeds, hitting a grain of dust is like getting hit with a modern tank gun. Another problem is blue shift.
Nor do they mention payload and how on earth you would address the fundamental of human biological requirements on an extended space journey. And, perhaps most importantly - the scenario described presupposes that the entirety of mankind would somehow lock arms, sing Kumbayah and support such an effort. This is without a doubt the most unrealistic supposition of all. Why on earth would the entire global community commit its entire set of resources on such a low-percentage of success project which would benefit only an infinitesimally small fraction of humanity? How on earth would you ever get agreement on which individuals would be the ones to send?
No talk of a warp drive? I know you'd need the same amount of power as jupiter, but it would have been interesting to hear your take on the condensing and stretching of space around a spacecraft. Theoretically you could go faster than light with this method, and the crew inside wouldnt feel any thrust what-so-ever. If anyone is interested in this idea here's a link to the video: */watch?v=9M8yht_ofHc*
they manage to make the energy needed to make it work to the energy made by USA in a year, so maybe if we manage to create affordable nuclear fusion or make harvesing dark matter way easier we could use warp drives at the second second half of this century.
+Expl0rati0n he did say at the beginning that they will talk about that. Probably saving it for a whole episode by itself since there's a lot of information about it.
+Expl0rati0n The problem is that in order to make it work you need exotic mater with a negative rest-mass. Such matter however has not yet been observed anywhere in the universe (not even indirectly), so it isn't included as a feasible technology.
The “Pion age” is going to be a interesting time to say the least. And yes. We should totally strap the riches to nuclear propelled rockets. We have plenty that shouldn’t be used for anything else.
Dude if we hit even one micrometeorite at that speed it will obliterate the spaceship let alone a fist sized piece of space debris. You will have to develop force fields way before you can think about accelerating. Now if you develop force fields you might want to develop one that makes the spaceship have no mass. Once the spaceship has no mass it's very easy to go almost the speed of light and to do it with very little fuel and not have to worry about hitting a bug on the proverbial windshield of the spaceship which would split atoms and actually behave quite like a mini nuke. Shielding has to come 1st
You can't just make mass not have any mass. The reason it's so hard to go light speed is that anything with mass needs energy to accelerate. Also, there aren't any bugs in space. We don't have the technology to create a force field, especially one that would protect a spacecraft that's going lightspeed. Do some research before trying to teach people things.
@@cashhawker1735 Sounds like you completely missed his point. His point was not the force field but the indisputable fact that hitting anything at those speeds would cause massive destruction. Force fields do seem far fetched but the issue has to be addressed somehow (don't know if there are any ideas out there).
While talking about thrust is sexy, it generally overlooks the bigger and more ho-hum problems involved in building a machine that will have to be powered and operational for 100 years. Think about how often large complex machines need to be put up in docks for refits, even crowning achievements like aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines. These conversations usually leave out MSEs or other disciplines that deal with these problems, but there are some potentially insurmountable issues here.
+neeneko guess we will need to develop self-healing materials and repair nanorobots first. For me it goes without saying that without sufficiently developed on-sight fabrication technology and general nanotech stars are closed to us. We simply won't be able to bring enough nowdays machinery with us to mine resources in the destination star system and fabricate needed components.
+Atila Elari Another big area of worry is one way chemical processes involved in some materials, or at minimal process that get more expensive each time. Sealants are a huge issue. The humble rubber washer for instance decays over time yet is critical for keeping gasses and liquids where you want them.
In my opinion, the fact that once the machine is accelerated it is technically just floating thought the vacuum of space, will limit the concern with this wear and tear. But I agree that lastability is an important factor to consider, as a materials engineer at northwestern, I do know that there are metals and polymers that can self heal, either through chemical, reactions or by introducing an electric current.and we have that now. Imagine what we will have in 50 years.
+neeneko absolutely, most physicists dont really have much hope for interstellar travel in our lifetime. Who knows how things will be in 100 or 500 years. But for now? Even if it sounds possible, it doesn't mean it's feasible. Star Ships that last generations are at the moment the most realistic option, but the chances for success are very low. Space is a very unforgiving medium. One mistake, and it's over. You can increase the chances by sending maybe 10 or 100 ships on their way. But still. It would be extremely dangerous. The cost in material and human life might be very huge.
You could become an icy head waiting for one more glimpse of reality before finally getting uploaded to the universal net where you solve field equations in support of an ever increasing human empire.
@@tententononce2570 I not only believe, I KNOW. PS. Open mindedness is beneficial for _yourself_, because the next thing you know, sth you deemed impossible or highly unlikely suddenly is possible and true. But you will never get this far without an open mind. Why should it be impossible? Because others dont do it? You gotta know that people ARE actually doing it, but not everyone (on purpose). Maybe because we arent being taught this at school or because the government doesnt promote this? Well.........
Turn off the sound, just watch the guy and imagine him saying "Oh my god, my new lipstick makes me look so more beautiful than you!" or "Tonight you murdered and the victim was fashion!" or "We don't like people like you in here! This is our Grill&BBQ!".
What happened to the Alcubierre Drive we were promised at 0:43? When you say, "we'll get to it," do you mean in the "as a species" sense rather than the "in this episode" sense?
I think that another thing to consider is the affect of acceleration on the human body. Some of these options would see us accelerating at a rate that is to strenuous for our bodies to handle for long periods of time. The time that it would take for humans to safely accelerate to 10% the speed of light should also be factored in. Great video as always!
"The Expanse" solves this very cleverly, by accelerating and decelerating at 1g in most routine travel, with ships space layouts that are reversible, thereby providing articifial gravity for the crew along the axis of acceleration. Higher accelerations require them to be strapped in and on drugs!
This would be useless with a limited amount of ships because the people who can't go would riot until no one can go. This would be just like the situation in The Dark Forest and Death's End where humanity is dying and people want to escape. The only way to realistically run away is to keep the asteroid a secret to everyone except a few people, and get people to escape on the ships in secret just before humanity is destroyed.
Watching this in 2019... (12:25) This video was published on the 15th of October 2015, just 4 months before the announcement by the LIGO and Virgo Scientific Collaboration that they had made the first direct observation of gravitational waves. In fact, the observation was made five months earlier on the 14th of September 2015, one month before this video was published.
At 5:48, you mention speeds of .5c and .8c. and reaching the Alp Cen system in 9 and 3.3 years. But you didn't mention the Relativistic effects of Near light speed on mass. Would be harder than mentioned here.
Engine thrust is produce by heat. Currently we can only heat/ run things safe to 8,000f. The smallest van size thermal unit comes apart at 15,000f. " It is not how fast the deer is standing in the middle of the road that matters, but how fast your car is going when it hits the deer." Pistol bullets travel around 300 ft/sec. riffle bullets travel around 3,000ft/sec Space dust travel around 20,000ft +/sec. First they really need to figure out navigation defector ray/beam pulse to push dust out of the path of the space craft.
I think he was assuming a 1G sustained acceleration for all the technologies. He mentioned it for one explicitly, I don't remember which. Though I'm doubtful that kind of acceleration is enough to support the time frames he was using. Wish I could math...
9:04 HAVE YOU not seen Event Horizon.....??? How about we stay away from any type of gravity/warp/black hole drive. We don't want to have to deal with Chaos
The biggest problem with Orion which he alludes to here, is that 300,000 bombs would be required. In over half a century of the cold war, two superpowers were only able to crank out 100,000 nuclear bombs and that's being very generous. The cost was probably in the low trillions just for bombs. He later accurately touched upon this problem. Fusion seems the most realistic to me. Although we'd need to raise it's potential to probably 50% SOL minimum for interstellar trips to be practical at all. I'm not too enthused about anti-matter due to it's cost. Pion drives capable of accelerating to .1c in 20 days would be too much accelerative G load for humans. The best I was able to calculate as far as acceleration and "G" loads of around 1.1, was 270 days just to reach 80% SOL. I suspect interstellar travel is 500 to a thousand years off just for our first human mission. I also think we will have to discover some new type of a more practical propulsion system not even imagined today. But my timeline comes from the problem posed by "The cost barrier". As a government project, interstellar travel has no chance with tax funded government projects functioning as they do today. Keeping focus on the project would be enormously difficult considering the government or more accurately, taxpayers failed to sustain post Apollo spaceflight and we wound up with the economically failed shuttle. An emergency would help tighten focus, but I don't see any short term emergency solution as being possible for a variety of reasons I won't go into here.
I read some books back in the fifties written by a guy ( George Adamski) who claimed to have been in one of these flying saucers and he described the means of propulsion as being magnetic in nature, using the natural charge of bodies at the poles. Is this even something worth looking into?
Imagine being sent to alpha Centauri on a fusion ship you spent 90 years on only to arrive and find humans there because about 20 years after you left someone figured out how to use a black hole drive
I would be the one it happened to😂😂😂😂
@@shelliejones434 F
but imagine that the humans who used a black hole drive arrived to find that humans have been living on Alpha Centauri for years after arriving via Quantum Teleportation! Dang, hate when that happens!
I mean I’d be happy to see company tho, lol
Imagine not sending someone to go pick them up!
If you watch this video on mute, it looks like he's trying to convince you not to punch him
Omg
hahahaha true
He reminds me of a taller Tyrion Lanister
@@davids.654 The Trump kids are great. Heck, even Hillary admitted that at the end of the 2nd or 3rd debate. Oh, and it looks like we're going back to the moon before Trump leaves office. Then onto Mars.
@@davids.654 So random dude lol
“Pretty realistic”
“Increase our antimatter output by 100 trillion trillion”
Think about how much faster how internet speed has gotten over the past 50 years. It used to be 2.4 kbps and now it's 6000 mbps (publicly available). That's 6.000.000 kbps. Or in other words 250.000 times faster than it used to be.
We simply need new innovations.
@@warbreakr 250 000 times and 100 trillion trillion is kinda different
Yu Yevon also 2 completely different things, point still stands though
warbreakr Still the factor is just too big to overcome in 50 years
warbreakr lol, the best internet speed can read like 1.6 terabits per second. That’s above a x393 million difference.
I don't know if I've ever gotten this man's name, but I've watched a lot PBS Space Time and I really like the more laid-back style he has in this video: he's more animated, he's making jokes, and he has a little grin like he's just in his zone and loving it. I guess what I'm saying is that I find his enthusiasm in this video more engaging than his more rigid presentation in other videos.
Apparently he gets more excited and animated when presenting sci-fi fairy tales like this video.
This was 7 years ago
One of the best corp UA-cam channels STILL
@@icinnalatte Maybe not. But the furthest that a human has ever traveled from earth is the moon, and we haven't even done that for fifty years. Suddenly we are going to solve all the logistical problems for safely transporting a live human 100 million times as far as that to the nearest star?
Glad there are smart people out there thinking about these questions, instead of wasting time with celebrity gossip. Cool video
🤔 I wonder which celebrities would be willing to be shipped across the universe...
@@luisportas looks fun
They power their brains by reading celebrity gossip :)
London Falling hmmmm.. quite an assumption to think people are thinking about the scientific stuff INSTEAD OF celebrity gossip as opposed to thinking of both. Scientists come home from work and get into meaningless celeb gossip as an escape. Just sayin
OMFG amen . Atleast some people out here tryna learn about whats actually important .
Plan how to save humanity:
Step 1: Get to a blackhole
Step 2: Get in it
Step 3: Stalk on a little girl from her bookshelf.
interstellar innit?
Aka, SCIENCE
How little we talking here?
@@codylee1682 little enough
Like all real black holes, this one is made of 95% love and 5% general mass.
It's a little bit depressing knowing that in my lifetime, we might send a probe to another star but it will take so long to get there, and for any information to be sent back, that I almost certainly (without a major breakthrough in the cure for aging) will not see the results.
+Lutranereis good thing there's many breakthroughs for "cure for aging" in store, at worst 20 years from now. ^^
+Lutranereis let's just hope we'll be able to upload our brains to a computer in a few years
BonJoviworstbandever Go Matryoshka Brain!
+Lutranereis If we send the light sail in the next 2 decades, I miiight be lucky to be alive on the arrival of the informations! (I am 22 currently)
I just need the entire world to get together and cooperate for my selfish reason of wanting to know more about space :P
+DerSergal Is it _really_ a selfish reason though? After all, there are at least dozens of us who _also_ want to know!
Amazing how many of these ideas were included in the Three Body Problem sci-fi book series.
Probably not by accident...
and many other SF books over the decades 🙂 Alcubierre warp drive is a description in general relativity of a warp drive from Star Trek. 🙂
A spaceship miscalculated and hits a planet at 10% speed light with nukes on board, or a pile of unspent anti-matter...whoa, not a good way to introduce yourself.
More like strange matter and you transform their entire world into a strange world.
Of course theoretically, this is what would happen according to some physicists.
That’s what happened to the dinosaurs fam
Good way to start an interstellar war. Better hope the species on the other world aren’t far more technologically advanced than us.
Sam kela maybe that was our civilization that hit the Earth presumably in a “meteor” but maybe it wasnt a meteor but rather some technology like in the video from another solar system. 🤔
It ain't like dusting crops boy...
That awkward moment when you actually have the tech to reach 10% the speed of light in a ship... then collide with a particle of matter the size of a grain of sand and watch your ship get destroyed 😂😭
so true
Agreed Sir Captain :)
Have a bumper on the front just above your license plate
It's a matter of size. If you think an interstellar spaceship will be the size of a bus, or maybe even an aircraft carrier, yeah, sand=problem. But an interstellar spaceship will likely need to be bigger than all boats, ships, bikes, trikes, cars and planes ever built, combined. And weigh multi-billions of tons.
Moving fast isn't particularly necessary: Making a ship that can support life indefinitely and trundle along, only pausing to gather supplies at other star-systems, is a much more feasible-with-what-we-know approach.
tru tru tru. But just imagine shields. LIKE SHIELDS ON OUR SPACE SHIPS DANGGG
*“Born too late to explore the world, and too early to explore the universe”*
Kyle Lin Not necessarily. We still have about 95% of the ocean undiscovered. Sure, it’s not as interesting as space, but it’s still something!
At the right time to explore mars and our own solar system
We can't find even find Planet X in our Solar System...So yeah
@@Fly-Crippin-blu-boi-187OnPigs well no one has been further than the moon so any other planet in the solar system hasn't been explored by humans
Right on time to explore the mind --- with psychedelics.
The fact that it would take us 120,000 years to get to the closest star is mind boggling and puts into perspectivie how ridiculously small we are
Did you watch the video? We could get a man on the nearest star in 150 years and a robot there in 50.
@@giles4565 Think you missed the point he’s making.
@@QixTheDS I think they missed each other's point :')
@@giles4565 is that travelling faster than the speed of light?
@@doc2590 The closest star is 4 light years, so travelling the speed of light it would take 4 years.
The one single necessary ingredient for space travel: A united planet.
Good luck with that.
@MoerkoffieZA Casual Gaming! First step: People got to stop being so religious.
@MoerkoffieZA Casual Gaming! Start with nuking middle east.
Well, half the religions live in the 17th century like Islam, Hinduism etc. Even here, half the country is filled with morons who infest the republican party. The uber moron is in the White House. So....
FOR REAL!!!!
Bill Whitis That was actually prophetic.
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I was surprised that a big issue with traveling to the stars was not mentioned: friction and collisions. Even at .1C you're going to get an awful lot of erosion just from hydrogen atoms you encounter in interstellar space. At .8C that much worse. Just from the atoms you'd have to have a very strong shielding system of some sort to ensure your spacecraft doesn't simply get worn down to a nub and fall apart before you get a large part of the way to Alpha Centauri. And that doesn't take into account bigger things, like little pebbles or even microscopic bits of debris like molecules that could cause serious damage given their kinetic energy in relation to the spacecraft. Going at those kinds of speeds your inertia keeps you on track and it's difficult to see something far enough ahead to avoid the object if it's big, impossible if it's small. Electromagnetic shields could deal with smaller particles perhaps, and physical, ablative shields for the bigger, but that adds serious mass.
Correct - it's all impossible because even an object the size of a grain of sand would
explode against the ship like a tonne of dynamite at 0.1c.
We went to the moon and back in Reynolds wrap, not once but 6 times.
@@andrewarmstrong7310 so what - they weren't traveling at 0.1c
isn't there an inversely proportional relationship between mass and speed?
@@sorh Not in general terms. There is an inversely proportional relationship between mass and acceleration, assuming constant thrust (force), but you can get massive objects going very very fast on relatively small thrust if the thrust can be maintained for a long time.
3:52 It would actually take 2*sqrt(2) times as long to reach Alpha Centuri because your average speed is much faster on the second half of the voyage than on the first half when you don't decelerate. Thus, it would take about 124 years instead of 90.
He also mentioned that you’d need half the fuel to slow down at the other end, that’s wrong as well because there is less mass to slow down (since you’ve already lost a lot of mass to accelerate).
did you forget that you had to accelerate at the beginning? or am i just missing your point
3:40 "we need to use half of our fuel to slow down at the other end"
No, half your delta-v. Depending on what fraction of the initial mass is fuel, these could be enormously different quantities.
I was gonna say the same thing, "half the fuel to slow down" is totally wrong.
I think what he means is going from 0 to x back to 0 without anything but the fuel, which if he is, then he'd be theoretically correct (Assuming I'm doing my quick math correctly). Factoring in everything else would prove him wrong, but he probably didn't add those in either for simplification reason, or because he simply forgot to do so
Will Swenson Fuel has mass
Someone clearly plays KSP lol
He used the momentum p1 + v1 = p2 + v2 so the amount of energy to get to a certain speed would need the same (minus what weight in fuel you’ve already used) to slow down.
The ratios would be 2:3 or something
I was expecting something like " a fuel tank as big as the Earth" but as big as the observable universe?!!
I'm just sittin here like :O right now :D
Don't believe everything he says. His calculations are wrong. 5:58 says we can reach alpha centauri in 3.3 years but it's impossible since light itself(fastest thing in the universe) can't get there THAT fast.
He said the journey would take 3.3 years in the astronauts perspective due to time dilation. So, it means that, in the perspective of those who stayed, the journey would take a longer time to reach its destination.
why not stop moving and let those planets come to us. because i think our sun and our solar systems is moving 800,000km/hr in our galaxy. if there is a space vessel that will stop moving relative to our solar systems, its like waiting for an elevator and the elevator is the planet we want to go to like the trappist planets.
This works in a solar system because of local gravitational effects, yes. However the theory breaks down when you start talking about interstellar travel. The reason for this is relative velocity. Yes, our solar system is moving at a high speed, but so is the target solar system. There's really no way to cancel our momentum and have that take us to another star. We have to just take our relative velocities into account, aiming for where the star will be when we are projected to arrive. Basically, it's like being an archer on horseback trying to shoot an arrow at another archer on horseback moving in a different direction.
Joaquin Michelini, I know you posted this 9 months ago, but to answer you: If we are traveling at near the speed of light, we would perceive the time to only take 3.3 years and we would only age by 3.3 years.
I've got a question. How did You manage to make Space Time my favourite You Tube show?
+mackbeth182 With science. Obviously.
+Atila Elari A+
***** He is quite attractive, especially when talking about science.....ohhh...I just get lost in his voice...
***** Love the pic btw
+mackbeth182 They go a bit deeper than other science channels and the hosts are pretty good at explaining things.
"One design, our best chance. What do we build?"
That line gave me chills for some reason. I'm imagining some kind of game or series about the necessity of following that idea, having to FIND that one design and make sure that it actually gets recognized as such.
There could be some real twists and turns with new discoveries, shifting which option(s) you support and which you squash down, with multiple paths leading to different time scales for the ultimate escape. Maybe your support for your favorite option actually ends up disregarding the promising discoveries in favor of another option, that turns out to actually BE faster and you end up getting left behind in retributiuon for having actively worked AGAINST what turns out to be *our best chance* in the end.
This would be epic
Project Hail Mary
Dream on...
Great video!
My only doubt was... How do you even harvest a Black hole? How are you saving the radiation and make it propulsion?
+Luis Alejandro Carrasco Molina Actually, the kugelblitz is an artificial black hole. You make it by concentrating an extremely high intensity of light in a very small region of space. If you can also give the new black hole electric charge (feed it some electrons) then you can suspend it in a magnetic field. The charged radiation it produces can be channeled by magnetic fields as propellant or the heat can be used to power a conventional generator. However you're right to think that it's a big challenge to harness very high energies. We don't have the materials to capture the highest energy non-charged products of proton-anti-proton annihilation, for example, and I imagine the same may be true for this Hawking radiation.
+PBS Space Time I was wondering how can we hold a black hole in place when you mentioned it in the video. Good thing that you explained it here. Although it'd be good to mention in a video. In the next video's comment section, perhaps?
+PBS Space Time wouldn't the biggest problems with the kugelblitz be generating the massive amounts of energy needed and then focusing that energy into lasers. You would need lasers pumping 53 octillion joules into a single point nearly instantaneously. That's more energy that our sun produces per second.
+PBS Space Time But... it's a black hole.. am I the only one terrified of it, you know... eating the ship for breakfast? Is it because it's so small that it could be contained?
UnknownXV Black holes don't suck anything in. They have gravity yes but that gravity is only as strong as the mass equivalent contained within the black hole and it's only once you get near the event horizon that things will get screwy. the 600 billion kg of mass mentioned wouldn't even be noticeable gravity wise.
Did I miss something or did he promise to talk about Alcubierre Warp Drives and then just didn’t??
In another video
@Tom Arnold What?
@Tom Arnold Really?? Do u know anything.
They aren't real right now, but lemme tell u that NASA scientist Harold G White is working on one.
@Tom Arnold And he knows bout them, I don't think u do
@@rzy5746 As he worked on the EM-drive lol. Even babies knew that one was a fake.
The problem with lasers is divergence. Early on you might have a nicely collimated beam, but there is no laser with 0 mRad of divergence. The farther away you get from the source, the lower the energy density of the beam gets.
A modular starship would have a great deal more versatility, be further expansible, and would alter velocity/vector with less duress, maybe even allowing for gravity to assist in such transitions.
This video makes me sad I wasn't born 100 years into the future. At least I got to experience the internet.
Alchemist1330 and mobile phones... Hell and self driving cars and drones
8- track, here
"There's some very serious rocket science in this episode about farts."
+The Brony Notion could've been referring to the nukes about farting. Nukes smell
+The Brony Notion Most impressive thing in this episode was being able to say that with a straight face.
+The Brony Notion
My wife, who has never seen the show, happened to be sitting beside me.
"Did they just say they did an episode on farts?"
do they really exist??? Not bkackholes, Farts?!?! I know girls don't fart!!But they do have blackholes!lmao thank you!!! I'll be here all week & you can buy CDs in the lobby
+The Brony Notion lol
Give me a few days and I'll see what I can knock together in my shed.
According to your comment time-stamp, you've had 2 weeks, Phantom 453! So, where are we at, mate? Time's a wastin'! :D
lathe and a clapped out bridgeport gonna get everyone to another planet?
Phantom453 I’ll hold your beer
Hail the mediocrity of people who hang out in sheds...
I don't think any old lawnmower engines will get us very far.
It makes a lot of sense to ignore the Wait equation and just launch as soon as we have something feasible.
It provides a benchmark, we enjoy learnings, geopolitical situations may change, and being able to create faster craft is partially just theory.
Plus, you have to find astronauts who are willing and psychologically totally accepting of the risks of dying enroute, so the "I'll wait to go later with better tech" wouldn't be a factor.
"So we don't see any ducks, but something's quacking and eating all our bread sticks." Classic, and pretty cool that we now HAVE seen gravitational waves since this video. Onward, science!
Yes😂😂
You miss a bigger issue - Shielding. If your going at the speed of light and you hit a speck of dust, you are dust.
Radar, hello?
@@hannahmadden3573 And how do you propose to dodge it, not even talking about spotting it.
Hollowed out asteroid with some engines slapped on it's ass, takes care of shielding from objects and radiation. Stick a whole bunch of cameras all over the surface and have display screens on the inside instead of windows so you an still see cool shit as you fly by, obvious radars and detection equipment with hi powered lasers to intercept the larger objects that may do more damage. All the little stuff like micro dust will just slam right into us, leaving us cool craters to check out with our surface cameras,
Good point.
You could make an ablative shield out of ice. Hopefully you could find some on the other side to replenish it.
Im pissed I wont be around when humanity will be so advanced, planets go for sale
Freeze yourself. Maybe, just maybe, you might be able to survive till such time.
At that point we will hardly be human.
that's only assuming humanity will even last that long
@@KelpyG. I'm still surprised we lived past the Bush years.
Freeze yourself until then☺
humor and shirts greatly improving your personality shining through is AWESOME!
Hello I'm from the distant year of 2019. Gravitational waves are observed all the time now! Boo ya
Was hoping to see this in the comments
I am a simpleton, how does this change what's mentioned in the video here?
@@ryandeal5872 Dear Simpleton, we went from only theorizing their detection, to detecting them regularly. Don't over think it.
@@ryandeal5872 This video was posted back in 2015, what was theory in 2015 is now fact in late 2019. And to over think it, " Gravitational Waves " were mention back in 1960's when Star Trek first aired. 60 years is not bad for a kid sitting on the living room floor watching a black & white tv going wow...! To an 70 year old man going " I found them ! I Found Them !"
Hello I'm from the nearby year of 2030. Human's didn't make it to the stars. Society has collapsed, what's left of us all is but scattered factions under the rule of King Kirkman, the tyranical Tioletpaper King. The one who discovered the lost toilet paper vault, some say there's a thousand years worth of toilet paper in the vault that was meant for the people who survived the apocalypse to build anew.
Unfortunately it was Kirkman who found it first and at that moment he became the most powerful being alive. With his newfound power he crowned himself the first King in the end times. King Kirtman forged himself an empire that was unmatched with a legion of soldiers that would not go unwiped. Although it does not seem all hope is lost, the one known as Charmin of Clan Ultra seeks to unite the people and defeat Kirkman so that our children's children will never go unwiped.
😂🤣 I've just found this channel and I'm loving it! Especially at the end when someone asked "why are we even talking about gravitational waves when the don't exist " and LIGO has found them and Weiss, Barish & Thorne won a Nobel Prize for it and only 2 yrs later (2017)
The fact that most of this is possible just makes me happy lol
Sadly, but the time it surface in reality, we're already dead.
@Universe3141 I mean the time this idea of this possibility realized. It takes a a ton of time to make interstellar travel to become real.
@ if we can mobilize the entire earth, ignoring the fact that more than %99 of total population would die and at least billion would fight themselves in other to get to the ships, which will slow down the progress even more
None of this stuff is ever going to happen, despite all the starry-eyed optimistic dreamers.
@@NondescriptMammal solar sails have happened already
I've seen, I think it was Kurzgesagt's treatment of this topic. But I had no idea this channel existed til recently, and I'm excited to see their take on it!
Imagine being the pioneering human on a ship going sub-light speed to Alpha Centari, and when you finally get there, humans have been there for years cause they had a faster ship
ShadowStormTTV I’m planning on being the pioneering human that will invent the technology to take us to Alpha Centauri ...
Lol, it's all fake
@@Chronz elaborate please
@@TAHJBecomeYourBestSelf See ya when you get back
@@TAHJBecomeYourBestSelf me to G. All the best to us mate
We don't have to intentionally travel to other stars. We could build self sustaining space habitats such as Stanford Torus's, O'Neill Cylinders and Bernal Spheres. With resources in the asteroid belt, the kuiper belt, the oort cloud and with comets and even rogue planets, we would spread our way to the distant stars in much the same way that ancient man migrated over the world just by building another village over the next hill. Multiple self sustaining habitats are also our best defense against extinction events. Such habitats could easily become a reality in mere decades and as with any real estate, could potentially net a return on investment.
Best comment I've read so far.
Except the distance between star systems is positively gigantic compared to the size of the solar system. There's nothing of use between here and there. It is light years and light years of total emptiness. It's like saying Europeans could have traveled to the New World just by building an outpost every few miles in the Atlantic so people could just swim across. Except there aren't even fish in space.
We still need to spread across the galaxy in order for our species to survive: all humans being in various habitats (planets, asteroids or artificial habitats) in the same small area of the galaxy makes us vulnerable to supernovae explosions. If one explodes in our proximity in the near future, we are toasted. Literally.
@@anthonydesportes9968 I didn't say that we didn't need to spread across interstellar space, just that we only need to be able to live in interstellar space to do so. Stone age man did not intentionally cross over to six of the seven continents, they simply built villages beyond the next hill. Just being able to build and maintain O'Neill cylinders, Bernal Spheres and the occasional Stanford Torus out of resources such as comets, asteroids and rogue planets in interstellar space would inadvertently take us to other star systems. Even a generation ship is essentially such a habitat. With our current technology, it is constructing such habitats that will take us to the stars and it would do so without us even trying once we are building such habitats.
@@EnDSchultz1 Yet already we have been mapping rogue planets, dwarf planets and brown dwarfs in nearby interstellar space. Interstellar space isn't as empty as you are imagining and without as many planetary gravity wells to interfere with navigation, accessing those resources should be quite straight forward as long as you can wait for the deliveries which self sustaining habitats should be able to do so. Remember that a single asteroid or comet would be enough resources for centuries to millennia for several such habitats. The fact that we recently had an interstellar object pass through our solar system recently shows that interstellar space is not without resources.
Funny you should mention an Earth-like planet at Alpha Centauri hearing recent news.
Was about to say
It is located in Proxima Centauri :)
+gabichri but it's still in the Alpha Centauri system.
oh and gravitational waves too :)
Earth has many characteristics. "Earth-like" is actually pretty vague.
12:25 - This one aged well
What's under the hood?
A 4 cubic inch black hole
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you comment makes no sense.
Rob Dunkes sr Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, alright. We got 411 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper Edelbrock intakes, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some f***in' muscle.
@@AnthonyChinaski alright allright alllright!
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The aliens will be pretty annoyed when we accidentally blast their planet with a probe doing 0.1c.
It would be amazing if our attempt to reach another planet so that we don't go extinct, is the cause of our extinction due to war with an advanced species because they consider it an attack. Except it wouldn't be a war, they would simply annihilate us the way we do a hive of insects.
@@t.a.7970 If you really felt that way, you wouldn't still be alive.
Fred
@@t.a.7970 "Humans are like the fleas on the carcass of the dog they killed waiting for another dog to pass by so they can leap on and do the same thing."
With this view of your own species, what else can we conclude but that all humans should be eradicated?
You first.
Fred
Wait. What if the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, was a "alien-maned"-probe in a desperate and failed attempt of a spacefaring civilization to excape their own dieing world and colonize Earth - a planet trillions of miles away and the only habitable planet they discovered in their sky?! *wooah*
@Shasa Monaghan Thank you for making my point.
Fred
I want to be alive to see this... :(
Natalie you are not the only one
I want to be alive and young enough to be one if the astronauts on board
Being dead and still see it, would be good enough for me. Like Idk, make cyborgs happen before 2060 or something!
Diet and exercise... ;)
yeah im fine being a head in a jar if i get to witness the broad sweeps of history for the next millenia. Im insanely curious.
I can't get enough of this videos. Keep 'em coming!!
This guy has a lot of energy in his eyebrows,,,
no he does't
i mean wtf if i mute it i would think he is some kind of creep telling me how he would rape me
@@siemniak😂😂
@Metalcore Reactions I was wondering if anyone else was trippin on this guy!
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The real question is how big will the explosion be when our spacecraft traveling at 0.1c or faster hits a grain of space dust.
Big. The relativistic kinetic energy of a grain of space dust weighing 1 gram traveling at 0.1c is 452 gigajoules - equivalent to 113 tons of TNT. I don't know if one gram is a good approximate weight for space dust but if it is then hopefully the dust is really diffuse.
That means
L1. we need a lot more of energy to support an "energy shield" Though, impacts slow the ship down.
L2.....so long as we have a fusion reactor....E=MC2 the hell out of that mater and use it to further propel us. Fusion Bombs?.
L3. Use excess energy to clear debris in the path (ha. Space ship turns on its headlights) and direct the debris to be collected.
+@@jimstone2235 - We use deflector dishes for clearing the path.
Powered by a black hole? I've seen the movie event horizon, no thanks. 😅
OMG I was thinking the same thing. However, in Event Horizon, the black hole tech was used to power an artificial wormhole and not propulsion. Like the movie explains, they fold a piece of paper and punch a pencil through. It was the space between the paper that ended up being Hell or something like it. Dimensional travel would be interesting.
You just made the hair on arms and legs stand up by mentioning that movie. I saw it at the movies as a kid during a storm and the movie theater power & movie started flashing on and off . Nothing to do with that weird experience & have seen it a few times in my adult life & just something about it that creeps me out like crazy & I’m actually a huge horror fan & movie buff & not many movies that bother me or can’t or won’t watch, but something about it that makes it the most terrifying thing I’ve ever seen.
@@ryanmurphy1985 I think its Sam Neil's performance. Every character he plays is intense. Similar to hugo weaving. Not to mention digging your own eyes out and string people up. I saw it as a teen with my mom...my choice. Love it.
The Harpsped Effect Those are some very good point you bring up.
I’m 33 now, so has been quite a few years since I’ve seen it & usually when It happens to be on Showtime, Or Cinemax or something it’s the middle of the night when I’m up with insomnia while everyone else is sound asleep In bedroom so that probably doesn’t help (lol)
And I’m curious about that other actor you mentioned as I can’t picture who it is or does the name sound familiar off the top of my head.
@@theharpspedeffect9209 I still have the dvd, and I've only watched it once. There was something about it I didn't like, and I think it's creepy too.
This is the greatest channel on UA-cam
To be honest, humans are geniuses. We could do anything if we set our minds to it. The problem is setting our minds to it
Geniuses? I just heard about people putting urine in their eyes for ... reasons.
Bob Bob this is my new favorite quote. Thank you.
Bob Bob eating the sun in one second? Didn’t think so.....
There are a whole lot of mongoloids aswel
That actually sounds racist against Mongolians. Is it?
50 years ago : in the future we will have flying cars
Now: we have memes
...and PewDiePie
@@thewormholetv7228 so really we got it better than expected
Thats what they said 50 years ago
Memes have been here for more than 10 thousand years. Talk about pre history and ideas in their artifacts and such. If you think about it, those are memes, abstracted ideas. Just that its not funny necessarily.
@@thewormholetv7228 Exactly and because of that example the humans dont deserve any of these technology because we as race are to stupid, ressource consuming assholes, and we should just live on the earth and die without colonizing anything.
Space travel should be done right...and in style. I don't want to be poking along on a 90 year mission to Earth 2.0 and get passed by some kid going 0.8c at year 80.
Use the nukes to move that asteroid, then make more anti-matter!
Such a funny but very realistic point of view. I have mentioned this same idea to my friend. It wouldnt be worth leaving too early if technology orders of magnitude better would be around before you got there because they might just actually get there first haha!
@@gearhead1302 0:55 he adresses ur point.
Or arrive at Earth 2.0 and discover it has already been colonized by machines with human-consciousnesses inside them.
Or even more realistic !!!!! get there to a barren, dead ........ rock, why are humans soooooo stupid to not just ..... figure out the best thing to protect what we have now .
Since the starship would have to be quite large and be built in space. We would be better off capturing an asteroid and insert into earth orbit. Then they could hollow it out. The asteroid would carry much of the materials they would need to build it using robots and 3d printers. Ideally, build it in a way so they could replace the engines on the go. Then if they are able to design a better propulsion system they would be able to integrate it into the ship. With scientists and engineers having just under 50 years, they would definitely have enough time to advance technology.
When you are in space; can you harvest static electricity and turn that into power for deep space exploration? Since light will be harder to collect at a far. Also has anyone looked into using magnetic fields from our sun and planets as a means of travel; meaning creating a space shuttle that can be negatively charged to get pushed by the suns mostly positive field? you can build a giant solar magnetic "net" that you can extend for travel purpose then collapse in means of slowing down or for maneuvering. dont be afraid to message me, ive been thinking about means of travel through space for awhile
yeah i've thought about something like that and looked it up before, the problem is that the magnetic poles are far too weak to cause any reliable acceleration
Static electricity is not equivalent to normal electricity.
Since there's no closed circuit, the charge will accumulate on the craft until it reaches equilibrium with the ambient charge.
"There's some very serious rocket science in this episode about farts." - you, sir, have just won the internets.
ALL the internets.
you both have diseases
yeah, they're both TERMINALLY AWESOME. See, I made a joke about terminal velocity in the guise of a disease joke. get it? GET IT?!?
+Defective here you go have an Internet buddy
all three of you have a degenerative disease
"Why not just choose the most metal option and explode nukes behind the spacecraft then surf the blast" ~Matt O Science Bro
I wonder if there's jokes in space...
Like, turn it up to eleven, you mean...
waste of energy.
Thing is nuclear pulsed propulsion is viable. And it has both high thrust and high specific impulse.
@@brettvv7475 well the Muppet Show tells us there are "PIGS IN SPACE"
Edited: no one can tell why I have over 500 likes. Have a nice day.
Yay, I get the reference!
underrated reference, deserves more likes
imagine thinking "the wormhole from interstellar" is a viable real world idea for sending a spacecraft somewhere right now
Murph! Murph! Murph!!!!!
MAKE HIM STAY MURPH!!!!
Could you supplement a kugelblitz's mass with matter and use that to create a hybrid kugel/matter black hole?
Also could you, instead of or in tandem with lasers(assuming we get to that point) use a particle accelerator to supplement the energy required? Or would the apparatus be so big that you'd be better off using one or the other?
Nearly 4M views gives me hope for humanity in the bleak future of our planet.
Siri Erieott Who’s to say any of them cared?
0.05% of Earths population
It doesnt
Do not forget the chinese communist military and the core muslims with their imams living alongside promising the best amenities of good life
Arthur C Clarkes' _"Imperial Earth"_ featured a drive that utilized a black hole contained on a magnetic matrix. Awesome book, awesome author.
What about using some combination of solar sails and fusion engines? Use the solar sails with lasers at the start to accelerate to a high % light speed, and then use the fusion engines on the other end to slow down. You'd only need to carry half the fuel you would if you used the fusion engine the whole way.
The reason you can't go through a wormhole is because the point of connection between spacetime is frozen in time, so even though both spaces are connected, you can't get past the point where you don't get to have the next moment.
In your opinion…
@@Rob-cy8xc You get how time dilation works right? When you reach the event horizon of the wormhole, how do you get to the next moment?
how do we avoid hitting meteors and other space stuff at such a high speed?
+Eshan Das Shielding is a huge issue, you're right. The faster you go, even the smallest of objects can cause great damage on impact. Imagine trying to get out of the Oort Cloud traveling that fast! The good thing, though, is by increasing your speed you actually limit an object's ability to collide with you based solely on that object's own trajectory -- you'd have to run into it head-on basically.
+Joseph Proffer not sure that i follow you on that, but in my head im thinking of when i try to throw my mashed potatoes into the ceiling fan-- i rarely ever hit the fan and my potatoes just sail through to the ceiling above...
theonlyari Yes, exactly! You'd have to hit the blade dead on, the speed limits the ability of the fan blade to impact your potatoes. You could think of this in an opposite manner: if your potatoes were travelling very slowly, the blade suddenly has an even greater chance of coming into contact with them. The problem with the Oort Cloud, however and sadly, is that there are a loooot of fan blades. haha
+Eshan Das well, we sometimes avoid them on Earth, but we have an atmosphere that causes friction which leads to most objects disintegrating. With a mini black hole, I wonder what sort of gravitational forces could be expected and if that would be enough to retain an atmosphere, though we'd also have to consider solar winds. The black hole would also generate a magnetic field. Ultimately, I think we're going to need an artificial mini planet with a black hole at its core.
Also the probability of hitting an object is actually really small and decreases quite rapidly outside the solar system. The Star Wars asteroid fields don't really exist. Entropy is such that things tend to spread out evenly.
+Eshan Das we don't. there is not much out there n space, debris is collected by larger objects. the interstellar space is just that: space. it would be actually pretty surprising to hit something. other than that: by travelling so faast,you push a blast wave of particles in front of you, they could act as a shield by vaporising stuff in front of you.
Why none of this will most likely ever happen, just one of the examples:
US Military spendings (2015) - 600 billion USD
US Science spendings including NASA budget (2015) - 30 billion USD
Similar is true for EU, Russia, China, India, Japan, etc.
The point being, people who rule the world couldn't give less fucks about space, most of them are too unintelligent and uneducated to think about the future, and too busy finding ways to blow someone else up in order to take a little bit more useless land that they don't need because they've got more than they can handle at the moment anyway.
Let's face it, the world has only seen rapid evolution of space travel one, during the Cold War, and we all know that the point of that evolution was NOT science or new discovery, it was pure politics and flexing muscles.
If the world was ran by scientists, engineers, doctor, etc. we'd be colonizing other planets and star systems already, but sadly, the world was always ran and most likely always will be ran by old farts who live in the past and don't have the intellectual capacity required to push the world forward.
i think the usa will spend more money on nasa if they could get a possible way for this stuff but yea still the military spendings are retarded
That's because of private contracting. Vary few in the private sector make a profit from NASA, and thus vary little lobbying is done for a increased budget. Military spending on the other hand is almost almost everything is contracted out to the private sector. Thus you have more alot more lobbying for increased military budget.
beaconrider It depends on the level of technology said colony starts with. if the colony had access to something along the lines of a Universal constructor (Molecular Assembler) and adequate power source. At which point resupplies become unnecessary.
War is an excelent motivation for advancement if no conflict existet there wouldnt be as much drive to push forward.
In a completely peacefull world progress would actualy slow down.
Not that retarded when you realize that the US has a GDP approaching 20 trillion USD
0.1 speed of light achieved in 20 days turns out to be 1.77 G's. Rather uncomfortable for 20 days. If you reduce to 1 G the time goes to ~35 days. (a = (v2 - v1)/t) Seems like a better way to go.
I wouldn't mind 2Gs so long as I could safely pressure release my spine daily via an inversion table or something like that. The effort may require more calories though.
Roughly C=300.000 km/s = 300.000.000 m/s. 1% is 3.000.000 m/s. 3.000.000/20days/24hoursInDay/60minInHour/60secInMin = 1.73m/s/s. It's 0,17 G.
@@MihMuh Times 10 please cause we're going on 10% of c
Bah, 1.77 g's, anyone without a heart condition could easily take that for 20 days. It would be slightly annoying to walk and stay balanced since you'd fall faster, but you'll be on board a small ship, not running around and performing heavy manual labor anyway. It's not enough weight to even be very annoying from the weight itself.
@@simsim4910 - thank you.
Amazing video! I found this very informative and interesting.
If we ever become advanced enough to upload minds, would it be worth it to create a much smaller "colony satellite" that has digital copies of people rather than real people? Or is this nonsensical?
Cooper de Ruiter this is an anime movie plot. No joke. Its a pretty interesting movie.
Caleb Spain whats it called?
Watch altered carbon on netflix, basically your idea, also super cool. Came out this year
It would be a lot more efficient to send frozen human embryos, to be incubated after the ship reaches its destination. Assuming that it's possible to make artificial wombs, and that robots could build a habitat and take care of the kids until they grew up, you could make the spaceship super small and light weight. That way, it wouldn't bankrupt the human race to try and accelerate a battleship to 0.1 C, instead, you could accelerate a ship the size of a bass boat. Speed it up with rockets and a light sail, and slow it down with an ion drive, and you might have a human colony on an alien world in 20,000 years.
' Well enough' is a low bar considering the way a lot of kids get neglected and abused by human parents, but still make it into adulthood. AI could possibly be up to the challenge of providing basic necessities, and education to the first generation. I assume, that, after arrival, the mission could use raw materials and energy of the new solar system. Perhaps the spacecraft could spend a few centuries mining asteroids and building a lander to send down to the surface of a habitable planet.
This might have been the way human life started on earth in the first place. Mind blown!
ypey1 ...
What I thought. Possible that a doomed life form sent its DNA here, which became us. And could they see us now.. PFFFT !!
So that means more people can get laid now ;)
We just happen to resemble is primates that were already here?
I'm a bit confused on how going at 10% C would work in real life. Let's say I was going that fast, wouldn't that mean when the rocket smashes into tiny debris on the way (and it will) they would hit the rocket with the energy of their mass times 10% C squared? Wouldn't that completely destroy any space ship?
That energy isn't 'mass times 10% c squared' because the collision isn't fast enough to be relativistic, but it's still pretty high.
You'd need some sort of shielding. Project Daedalus proposed doing it like this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus#Concept
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The ship's payload bay containing its sub-probes, telescopes, and other equipment would be protected from the interstellar medium during transit by a beryllium disk, up to 7 mm thick, weighing up to 50 tonnes. This erosion shield would be made from beryllium due to its lightness and high latent heat of vaporisation. Larger obstacles that might be encountered while passing through the target system would be dispersed by an artificially generated cloud of particles, ejected by support vehicles called dust bugs about 200 km ahead of the vehicle. The spacecraft would carry a number of robot wardens capable of autonomously repairing damage or malfunctions.
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send more than one probe
Bad End Happy yes, the starship would need some kind of magnetic shielding or spacedust collisions would be catastrophic. Hopefully we can come up a gravity/antigravity drive to bend space and not have to deal with stuff like that.
Use plaama shielding or magnetic shields
or move along another spacial Dimenison to your targeted destination
Love your focus on big ideas. Without thinking BIG you can't achieve BIG things.
“It’s rocket science AND nuclear physics, so... you know... HARD”. Lol he killed me 😂
im calling 911
"To learn more, there's some very serious rocket science in this episode about farts." And people still wonder why I love this channel so much.
The light sail options is interesting, if we start launching them every 3 months give or take whatever, communication back to earth would be fine. Each light sail would piggy back communication back to earth with a bit of alacrity.
Incorrect, if the ending location is 4.5 light year away, and since NO communication can go faster than the speed of light it will still take 4.5 years to reach us, even if you have a huge string of interconnected light sails...
@@dominiqueridoux2073 If we start from now and send messages to the 4.5 light years away star (assuming there will be Life advance enough to response back)
We have to send regular messages for 4.5 years every day (Probably asking question about them , the tech and Environment)
After 4.5 years , we will receive there first message which will answer our first question and the next day we will receive the second messages (assuming they respond to us the same day)
So in this case , you can say a type of direct communication can exist!
@@abdr3941 I see what you’re saying but it still doesn’t have the nuance of a conversation held in real time. Yes you’ll get an answer to your first question, but your response will still take 4.5 years to reach them. If you keep stacking those, you’re only getting a delayed response every day, not true direct communication.
In a way tho you’re absolutely right and I want to point that out, I’m just being pedantic
Noticed you've gotten more comfortable in your videos in the last 5 years.
I noticed the exact same thing haha
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I've watched a few of these videos about interstellar travel and they never mention deflector shielding. Hitting a small particle at that speed can be devastating.
That is one of the big problems. At relativistic speeds, hitting a grain of dust is like getting hit with a modern tank gun.
Another problem is blue shift.
there are ways to achieve interstellar travel that circumvent this issue and make it irrelevant, though this video does not explore them
That one guy with the speech impediment, his videos explain it very well. Can't remember his damn name tho....
Isaac Arthur!!!
Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur is the channel name.
Nor do they mention payload and how on earth you would address the fundamental of human biological requirements on an extended space journey. And, perhaps most importantly - the scenario described presupposes that the entirety of mankind would somehow lock arms, sing Kumbayah and support such an effort. This is without a doubt the most unrealistic supposition of all. Why on earth would the entire global community commit its entire set of resources on such a low-percentage of success project which would benefit only an infinitesimally small fraction of humanity? How on earth would you ever get agreement on which individuals would be the ones to send?
No talk of a warp drive? I know you'd need the same amount of power as jupiter, but it would have been interesting to hear your take on the condensing and stretching of space around a spacecraft. Theoretically you could go faster than light with this method, and the crew inside wouldnt feel any thrust what-so-ever. If anyone is interested in this idea here's a link to the video: */watch?v=9M8yht_ofHc*
they manage to make the energy needed to make it work to the energy made by USA in a year, so maybe if we manage to create affordable nuclear fusion or make harvesing dark matter way easier we could use warp drives at the second second half of this century.
+Expl0rati0n he did say at the beginning that they will talk about that. Probably saving it for a whole episode by itself since there's a lot of information about it.
+Expl0rati0n He said they're making a whole episode about warp drives since they're very involved/complicated when you get in the details.
+Expl0rati0n I was wondering about that too...
+Expl0rati0n The problem is that in order to make it work you need exotic mater with a negative rest-mass. Such matter however has not yet been observed anywhere in the universe (not even indirectly), so it isn't included as a feasible technology.
OR you can just carjack a UFO and use their ship to explore the cosmos.
Fuel
And where can you find one?
@@2024hasbeentheworst.. joke
@@adityashankar5267 joke
@@adityashankar5267 Area 51 lol or maybe in the backyard of History Channel's Producers 😂
The “Pion age” is going to be a interesting time to say the least.
And yes. We should totally strap the riches to nuclear propelled rockets. We have plenty that shouldn’t be used for anything else.
Dude if we hit even one micrometeorite at that speed it will obliterate the spaceship let alone a fist sized piece of space debris.
You will have to develop force fields way before you can think about accelerating.
Now if you develop force fields you might want to develop one that makes the spaceship have no mass.
Once the spaceship has no mass it's very easy to go almost the speed of light and to do it with very little fuel and not have to worry about hitting a bug on the proverbial windshield of the spaceship which would split atoms and actually behave quite like a mini nuke.
Shielding has to come 1st
Zero point energy.
You can't just make mass not have any mass. The reason it's so hard to go light speed is that anything with mass needs energy to accelerate. Also, there aren't any bugs in space. We don't have the technology to create a force field, especially one that would protect a spacecraft that's going lightspeed. Do some research before trying to teach people things.
Spock knows
Sorry teacher
@@cashhawker1735 Sounds like you completely missed his point. His point was not the force field but the indisputable fact that hitting anything at those speeds would cause massive destruction. Force fields do seem far fetched but the issue has to be addressed somehow (don't know if there are any ideas out there).
While talking about thrust is sexy, it generally overlooks the bigger and more ho-hum problems involved in building a machine that will have to be powered and operational for 100 years. Think about how often large complex machines need to be put up in docks for refits, even crowning achievements like aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines. These conversations usually leave out MSEs or other disciplines that deal with these problems, but there are some potentially insurmountable issues here.
+neeneko guess we will need to develop self-healing materials and repair nanorobots first.
For me it goes without saying that without sufficiently developed on-sight fabrication technology and general nanotech stars are closed to us. We simply won't be able to bring enough nowdays machinery with us to mine resources in the destination star system and fabricate needed components.
+Atila Elari Another big area of worry is one way chemical processes involved in some materials, or at minimal process that get more expensive each time. Sealants are a huge issue. The humble rubber washer for instance decays over time yet is critical for keeping gasses and liquids where you want them.
In my opinion, the fact that once the machine is accelerated it is technically just floating thought the vacuum of space, will limit the concern with this wear and tear. But I agree that lastability is an important factor to consider, as a materials engineer at northwestern, I do know that there are metals and polymers that can self heal, either through chemical, reactions or by introducing an electric current.and we have that now. Imagine what we will have in 50 years.
+neeneko Yes thrust is sexy.
+neeneko absolutely, most physicists dont really have much hope for interstellar travel in our lifetime. Who knows how things will be in 100 or 500 years. But for now? Even if it sounds possible, it doesn't mean it's feasible. Star Ships that last generations are at the moment the most realistic option, but the chances for success are very low. Space is a very unforgiving medium. One mistake, and it's over. You can increase the chances by sending maybe 10 or 100 ships on their way. But still. It would be extremely dangerous. The cost in material and human life might be very huge.
Why's he standing with his legs 4.4 light years away from eachother?
to make room for his super massive Spacetime schlong
No he's a real man😎
Power stance.
His side job is Galactus.
That’s hilarious
His English accent had me at "The future of Humonitee is in the staaauus".
I beliiiiiiiieve you maaaaaan!!!!
He's Australian, mate
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 good enough for me!😁
Ugh, it sucks that I'm probably not gonna witness this amazing stuff....
Nobody is dewd, none of this stuff will ever pan out, the sails being the dumbest of all the option, even far dumber than artificial black holes.
You could become an icy head waiting for one more glimpse of reality before finally getting uploaded to the universal net where you solve field equations in support of an ever increasing human empire.
Colin learn astral travel, explore the universe on your own
+Nyanator someone believes that shit? oh wow
@@tententononce2570 I not only believe, I KNOW. PS. Open mindedness is beneficial for _yourself_, because the next thing you know, sth you deemed impossible or highly unlikely suddenly is possible and true. But you will never get this far without an open mind. Why should it be impossible? Because others dont do it? You gotta know that people ARE actually doing it, but not everyone (on purpose). Maybe because we arent being taught this at school or because the government doesnt promote this? Well.........
This has to be the most entertaining Space Time episode.
Dude looks like he was made with the Oblivion character creator
Turn off the sound, just watch the guy and imagine him saying "Oh my god, my new lipstick makes me look so more beautiful than you!" or "Tonight you murdered and the victim was fashion!" or "We don't like people like you in here! This is our Grill&BBQ!".
I wished more people could realise how funny this comment actually is. Oblivion is spot on :-)
Looks like the sidekick that doesn't that leave you alone . I don't trust him .
Bruh, I’m dead lmao.
What happened to the Alcubierre Drive we were promised at 0:43?
When you say, "we'll get to it," do you mean in the "as a species" sense rather than the "in this episode" sense?
Realistically, I'm most hyped for the light sail. But if I'm gonna be honest, I want that kugelblitz drive to be a reality NOW.
You should rename this video
5 real ways we can start a galactic empire
This guy has evolved so much. He’s an excellent speaker and teacher now imo
Aside from all the mistakes he's made, I suppose
I think that another thing to consider is the affect of acceleration on the human body. Some of these options would see us accelerating at a rate that is to strenuous for our bodies to handle for long periods of time. The time that it would take for humans to safely accelerate to 10% the speed of light should also be factored in. Great video as always!
We do not need to safely accelerate, we just need to get rip enough to survive sudden acceleration of 100G, without seating
"The Expanse" solves this very cleverly, by accelerating and decelerating at 1g in most routine travel, with ships space layouts that are reversible, thereby providing articifial gravity for the crew along the axis of acceleration. Higher accelerations require them to be strapped in and on drugs!
I like the solution in the Forbidden Planet, where they are turned into solid objects for the deceleration.
I don't think anything is happening in my lifetime. I think I'll go back to watching some porn
You, my friend, seem to be one of the very, very few reasonable/realistic persons participating in this thread.
it do be like that sometimes
Ok coomer
lol Genius statement
We are there
This would be useless with a limited amount of ships because the people who can't go would riot until no one can go. This would be just like the situation in The Dark Forest and Death's End where humanity is dying and people want to escape. The only way to realistically run away is to keep the asteroid a secret to everyone except a few people, and get people to escape on the ships in secret just before humanity is destroyed.
Star Trek wasn't real.
Watching this in 2019...
(12:25) This video was published on the 15th of October 2015, just 4 months before the announcement by the LIGO and Virgo Scientific Collaboration that they had made the first direct observation of gravitational waves. In fact, the observation was made five months earlier on the 14th of September 2015, one month before this video was published.
At 5:48, you mention speeds of .5c and .8c. and reaching the Alp Cen system in 9 and 3.3 years. But you didn't mention the Relativistic effects of Near light speed on mass. Would be harder than mentioned here.
Turn off the sound and the background and just watch this dude, and imagine him saying, "dafuq you want? What? What? You talkin' to me? What?"
LOL
Just a thought... What if we're the 1st species in our Universe to make this possible?
maybe we are the last.
What if we are the only ones in our universe out of thousands in a multiverse all doing the same thing?
yeah.. it is possible that in other planets similar to Earth, the species are only like bacteria or some plants and insects
I wouldn’t mind having a light sail and just cruzin through space
What about changing the density of the space? Like the (venetian diver pressure experiment) pulling the craft through space instead of pushing it?
Interesting
He doesnt even mention to problem of G-force constantly crushing your bones and equipment
Exactly what I thought.. The black hole drive has a g force of 5.5
Engine thrust is produce by heat. Currently we can only heat/ run things safe to 8,000f.
The smallest van size thermal unit comes apart at 15,000f.
" It is not how fast the deer is standing in the middle of the road that matters, but how fast your car is going when it hits the deer."
Pistol bullets travel around 300 ft/sec.
riffle bullets travel around 3,000ft/sec
Space dust travel around 20,000ft +/sec.
First they really need to figure out navigation defector ray/beam pulse to push dust out of the path of the space craft.
Same thought I had
I think he was assuming a 1G sustained acceleration for all the technologies. He mentioned it for one explicitly, I don't remember which. Though I'm doubtful that kind of acceleration is enough to support the time frames he was using. Wish I could math...
Probably believes in inertial dampeners.
9:04 HAVE YOU not seen Event Horizon.....??? How about we stay away from any type of gravity/warp/black hole drive. We don't want to have to deal with Chaos
The biggest problem with Orion which he alludes to here, is that 300,000 bombs would be required. In over half a century of the cold war, two superpowers were only able to crank out 100,000 nuclear bombs and that's being very generous. The cost was probably in the low trillions just for bombs. He later accurately touched upon this problem. Fusion seems the most realistic to me. Although we'd need to raise it's potential to probably 50% SOL minimum for interstellar trips to be practical at all. I'm not too enthused about anti-matter due to it's cost. Pion drives capable of accelerating to .1c in 20 days would be too much accelerative G load for humans. The best I was able to calculate as far as acceleration and "G" loads of around 1.1, was 270 days just to reach 80% SOL. I suspect interstellar travel is 500 to a thousand years off just for our first human mission. I also think we will have to discover some new type of a more practical propulsion system not even imagined today. But my timeline comes from the problem posed by "The cost barrier". As a government project, interstellar travel has no chance with tax funded government projects functioning as they do today. Keeping focus on the project would be enormously difficult considering the government or more accurately, taxpayers failed to sustain post Apollo spaceflight and we wound up with the economically failed shuttle. An emergency would help tighten focus, but I don't see any short term emergency solution as being possible for a variety of reasons I won't go into here.
I read some books back in the fifties written by a guy ( George Adamski) who claimed to have been in one of these flying saucers and he described the means of propulsion as being magnetic in nature, using the natural charge of bodies at the poles. Is this even something worth looking into?