A 360 deg robust CIWS is now essential for all naval ships. Even smaller patrol boats 30m+ should have at least 1 gun capable of asymmetric air defence and defending against small fast moving boats. (Bofors 40, Marlin 40, Typhoon Mk30c etc)
It was its maiden deployment. The goal was to indeed to test and adjust the parameters. Still, despite being at 1,2 km, the shots were quite bundled, it just need some tweeking. The airburst ammunition will also bring more forgiveness.
Looking at the cannon there it seems rather like it can be depressed to fire - it would be interesting to know what the minimum range on the sea surface is. The CT40 cannon is also something that interests me a lot - we know that there were challenges developing it. I suppose we will never find out because it's a secret but I do wonder if the barrels last better now.
Quelle précision en cas de mer" Houleuse" avec de gros creux ? Car si la mer est houleuse, cela affectera aussi bienla précision du Batiment équipé du RapidFire, que celui qui sera défini comme la menace, non ?
Depuis le début 1900 il existe des système de stabilisation sur l'artillerie navale. Donc autant dire que s'il avait déjà des moyens de compenser pendant la première guerre mondiale, plus d'un siècle plus tard on sait comment faire.
This is the gun that is going to be on the new OPV. With modern advances in minaturization, I wonder how capable (shell types) can smaller guns be compared to larger ones? The abilities of the 25mm, 40mm, 57mm, 76mm and the 127mm guns compared would be interesting compared with cost and weight of the system. The US Navy has gone with the 76mm on the Constellation Class, not without some criticism.
@@LoanwordEggcornthe French Patrouilleurs Hauturiers. The RapidFire takes care of point defence, anti surface, drones and close air targets that would usually be taken down by missiles.
@@frosty3693 if I had not miss some news Costellation will have BAE 57mm gun which during SinkEx show it's less capable then 76mm but till Red Sea US Navy do not consider guns a proper weapon thus smaller and lightest is better, compare BAE 127mm and Leonardo 127mm guns italian is better but it weighs almost twice as much (14 ton more 34 in total compared to 10,000 ton of the Destroyer 🤣)
Surface fire accuracy looked a bit off in that video...think that killer tomato survived the first barrage!. If that was a Ukrainian suicide USV bouncing in at 30knts would this mount get the job done?. Based on that footage I think I'd want to see more trials!.
@@CC-ns2ds maybe I need a bigger screen....looks like two 3-round bursts in the footage. First misses to port and the second, at 2.06, goes high. On a phone screen though so perhaps I'm missing something. Doesn't look great.
@@dogsnads5634 the anti-surface vessel rounds are either a fin sabot or PD - point detonating shell. The fin round will have better ballistics you’d expect but in either case accuracy will be key and needs to be a bit better than the video appears to demonstrate. There is a GP airburst round for the CTA gun but that’s more for the land role hitting unprotected infantry behind cover and air targets etc. To hit USV drones and do real damage likely your fuse setter disables the bursting charge on an AB round so the hit on target is more destructive than just small shell frag.
Modern scenario have proved even an Airleigh Burke miss the persistence needed nowadays, so the only future combat ship must be like the Burke but with a smaller crew, smaller electronic, smaller more powerful engines, overall smaller "ship" in same size hull, in order to double the VLS and would be better have four 30mm guns against drones for self defense (if it work shift on lasers)! It's time to say the true Frigates with 32 VLS are submarine hunters nothing more, not an escort ship nor a combat one. Would you send a convoy escorted by four plus a spare one (total 5) Frigates with just 32 VLS each in South China Sea risking an easy quick attack from a regiment of H-6 bombers? If you survive the attack what would you do for the next one 12 hours later??? To the ones who fear a different opponent american B-1 can carry inside three internal bays 24 anti-ship missile so a squadron of only 9 aircrafts could gift you a rain of 216 ASMs. I didn't consider drones in the mix... Commonly Frigates have one helicopter onboard, but to add a second most distant protection layer against submarines you need at least 10 helicopters to perform the 20/25 missions per day requested to protect the convoy, so you'll need minimum 5 Destroyers (usually 2 helicopters onboard) to do it. Surprise one is not enough. Money, money, money, Abba or Pink Floyd you can choose your soundtrack 🤣🤣🤣
There is no need, every single navy around the world has different needs and purposes than the US navy and isn’t going out to take down H-6 bombers. Also, even if it was the case, a frigate with 32 vls would be enough, it would only use the vls for very high altitude targets or ballistic missiles, the rest such as cruise missiles and drones can be easily dealt with the main gun and the 20 mm guns or the electronic warfare as the French navy as shown in the Red Sea. You need to stop thinking that every thing needs to be taken down by a missile, there are plenty other ways to deal with a threat such as the main gun, smaller guns and most important electronic warfare which lets you deal with the threat without even having to fire a shot. You can literally make an incoming missile going down into the sea far away from the boat.
@brunol-p_g8800 sorry but you are focusing only on the combat ship nowadays a Destroyer. Merchant ships have no point defense guns or elettronic warfare, so if everything work properly the Destroyers must provide area defense to merchant ships and the only tool is long range anti-air missiles! Do not end here the threat. Better USV and UUV are coming. Italian and French navy are the most involved in the Red Sea because have the goal to keep Mediterranean Sea relevant to world business, but German Navy goes around Africa! Last attack on an american carrier involved the launch of over 20 balistic anti-ship missiles and they are Houthi just rebels not a nation, so all countries need Destroyers as the US Navy, better ones in future. Don't know if you noticed during Cold War there was a high risk to start world war three, nowadays we are fighting a war with real ammunition all corners of the world, our planet was a safest place during Cold War then now!
Try to gather and coordinate a 500 drones and 500 decoys attack, at sea, to strike a naval moving target. The frigate has others sensors, like electronic warfare , radars and jammers too. And don't get caught while setting it up hundreds of drones, with how many people?, what logistic? Congratulations, you are very good.
@@sebastiengarnier6664 Exactly that. There are 5 Shahed drones on a launching truck so you’re getting 100 trucks together to launch the drones and then another 100 for the decoys. I rather think not.
@@julienbounce8169 Shahed used as an example of the size and type of drone necessary. Use another of a similar size with a terminal seeker and moving target capability if you wish. The point is size and numbers not specific drone type.
@ il faut des systèmes de navigation inertielle ou alors de la reconnaissance imagerie infra rouge (ex : kit aasm de safran) c’est pour ça qu’en Ukraine les obus guidé américain non plus aucune efficacité et que le aasm n’est pas brouillable
Hardcore french accent here. Ne lâchez rien!
Yes, he was offensively french
I'm French and it's like I can tell that his brain is thinking in French
@@haaxeu6501 Right, he's speaking some running english
A 360 deg robust CIWS is now essential for all naval ships. Even smaller patrol boats 30m+ should have at least 1 gun capable of asymmetric air defence and defending against small fast moving boats. (Bofors 40, Marlin 40, Typhoon Mk30c etc)
That is exactly what the Nexter RapidFire is. And the Nexter Narwhal also does the job.
Forget the best, the iper rapid 35 mm Millenium
@@brunol-p_g8800prrrr for francaise product bla bla bla unique rapid bla bla bla
It is crazy that in 2024 a new gun still misses the killer tomato with the majority of its shots.
It was its maiden deployment. The goal was to indeed to test and adjust the parameters. Still, despite being at 1,2 km, the shots were quite bundled, it just need some tweeking. The airburst ammunition will also bring more forgiveness.
accurate-ish
Ce que je ne comprends pas c'est pourquoi avec le " RapideFire" ont n'ait pas fait le système " Skinex" de Reinmetals. Merci 😊A +😊
Tell me you're French without telling me you're French 😁
oui oui
Looking at the cannon there it seems rather like it can be depressed to fire - it would be interesting to know what the minimum range on the sea surface is. The CT40 cannon is also something that interests me a lot - we know that there were challenges developing it. I suppose we will never find out because it's a secret but I do wonder if the barrels last better now.
It is and has been in use in the French army for a few years now without any problems.
Loved his it can anticipate drones and drone swarms so "So why not Helicopters and Planes" comment.
How effective is the gun at shooting down anti ship missile?
Quelle précision en cas de mer" Houleuse" avec de gros creux ?
Car si la mer est houleuse, cela affectera aussi bienla précision du Batiment équipé du RapidFire, que celui qui sera défini comme la menace, non ?
"Mer houleuse, moule heureuse".
Proverbe du bord de mer
@@etorepugatti9196 😂Ouais, mais cela ne me donne pas la réponse ...!
@@marccouasnon6973 Désolé, je m'y connais mieux en moules qu'en conduite de tir
Depuis le début 1900 il existe des système de stabilisation sur l'artillerie navale. Donc autant dire que s'il avait déjà des moyens de compenser pendant la première guerre mondiale, plus d'un siècle plus tard on sait comment faire.
@@etorepugatti9196 Les gouts et les odeurs...
Would like to see a report on the new Patrouilleurs Hauturiers?
This will be the focus of our next video
Des versions sur Shelter serait aussi a promouvoir, pour lutter contre les drones .
FDI Frigate best for Bangladesh🇧🇩
But Price High😢😢
compare it with the price of the new British frigates bought by the Australian navy 😂
@pandaDotDragon FDI best upcoming Frigate
This is the gun that is going to be on the new OPV. With modern advances in minaturization, I wonder how capable (shell types) can smaller guns be compared to larger ones? The abilities of the 25mm, 40mm, 57mm, 76mm and the 127mm guns compared would be interesting compared with cost and weight of the system. The US Navy has gone with the 76mm on the Constellation Class, not without some criticism.
Which OPV? 76 mm is probably ok for point defense and some anti-surface, with missiles for the rest.
@@LoanwordEggcornthe French Patrouilleurs Hauturiers. The RapidFire takes care of point defence, anti surface, drones and close air targets that would usually be taken down by missiles.
@@brunol-p_g8800 Thanks!
@@frosty3693
if I had not miss some news Costellation will have BAE 57mm gun which during SinkEx show it's less capable then 76mm but till Red Sea US Navy do not consider guns a proper weapon thus smaller and lightest is better, compare BAE 127mm and Leonardo 127mm guns italian is better but it weighs almost twice as much (14 ton more 34 in total compared to 10,000 ton of the Destroyer 🤣)
Surface fire accuracy looked a bit off in that video...think that killer tomato survived the first barrage!. If that was a Ukrainian suicide USV bouncing in at 30knts would this mount get the job done?. Based on that footage I think I'd want to see more trials!.
If you actually look closely at 2:06 they go through the tomato
@@CC-ns2ds maybe I need a bigger screen....looks like two 3-round bursts in the footage. First misses to port and the second, at 2.06, goes high. On a phone screen though so perhaps I'm missing something. Doesn't look great.
That’s why it will have airbust ammo. And it is not so bad for such distance
@@SteveJones-om6ks Don't forget this is trials ammo...essentially solid blocks. In real life its firing proximity fuzed ammunition.
@@dogsnads5634 the anti-surface vessel rounds are either a fin sabot or PD - point detonating shell. The fin round will have better ballistics you’d expect but in either case accuracy will be key and needs to be a bit better than the video appears to demonstrate.
There is a GP airburst round for the CTA gun but that’s more for the land role hitting unprotected infantry behind cover and air targets etc. To hit USV drones and do real damage likely your fuse setter disables the bursting charge on an AB round so the hit on target is more destructive than just small shell frag.
It is very funny to hear English spoken with a so very French accent.
Putain l'accent xD Zissiz veri bioutifoul
Modern scenario have proved even an Airleigh Burke miss the persistence needed nowadays, so the only future combat ship must be like the Burke but with a smaller crew, smaller electronic, smaller more powerful engines, overall smaller "ship" in same size hull, in order to double the VLS and would be better have four 30mm guns against drones for self defense (if it work shift on lasers)!
It's time to say the true Frigates with 32 VLS are submarine hunters nothing more, not an escort ship nor a combat one.
Would you send a convoy escorted by four plus a spare one (total 5) Frigates with just 32 VLS each in South China Sea risking an easy quick attack from a regiment of H-6 bombers?
If you survive the attack what would you do for the next one 12 hours later???
To the ones who fear a different opponent american B-1 can carry inside three internal bays 24 anti-ship missile so a squadron of only 9 aircrafts could gift you a rain of 216 ASMs.
I didn't consider drones in the mix...
Commonly Frigates have one helicopter onboard, but to add a second most distant protection layer against submarines you need at least 10 helicopters to perform the 20/25 missions per day requested to protect the convoy, so you'll need minimum 5 Destroyers (usually 2 helicopters onboard) to do it.
Surprise one is not enough.
Money, money, money, Abba or Pink Floyd you can choose your soundtrack 🤣🤣🤣
There is no need, every single navy around the world has different needs and purposes than the US navy and isn’t going out to take down H-6 bombers.
Also, even if it was the case, a frigate with 32 vls would be enough, it would only use the vls for very high altitude targets or ballistic missiles, the rest such as cruise missiles and drones can be easily dealt with the main gun and the 20 mm guns or the electronic warfare as the French navy as shown in the Red Sea.
You need to stop thinking that every thing needs to be taken down by a missile, there are plenty other ways to deal with a threat such as the main gun, smaller guns and most important electronic warfare which lets you deal with the threat without even having to fire a shot. You can literally make an incoming missile going down into the sea far away from the boat.
@brunol-p_g8800
sorry but you are focusing only on the combat ship nowadays a Destroyer.
Merchant ships have no point defense guns or elettronic warfare, so if everything work properly the Destroyers must provide area defense to merchant ships and the only tool is long range anti-air missiles!
Do not end here the threat.
Better USV and UUV are coming.
Italian and French navy are the most involved in the Red Sea because have the goal to keep Mediterranean Sea relevant to world business, but German Navy goes around Africa!
Last attack on an american carrier involved the launch of over 20 balistic anti-ship missiles and they are Houthi just rebels not a nation, so all countries need Destroyers as the US Navy, better ones in future.
Don't know if you noticed during Cold War there was a high risk to start world war three, nowadays we are fighting a war with real ammunition all corners of the world, our planet was a safest place during Cold War then now!
👆
J'espère que le canon/système est meilleurs que son anglais ...
All hail the return of the light - medium AA gun as drone++ killers. Navy's are going to have to simplify reloading/ammo mag. systems.
Good, that is exactly what they did with the RapidFire, it is simple to reload.
Et en Français c'est possible ? 😂
I'm sorry, the 35mm millenium is a very iper rapid gun ( 1000 rpm) francaise bla bla bla
Pitié, ne parlez plus anglais !!!
Why ?
His english is good enough. Self hating people like you are strange ngl.
Cool. An attack by several drones can be thwarted. What about 500 drones and 500 decoys attacking at the same time from all directions.
Try to gather and coordinate a 500 drones and 500 decoys attack, at sea, to strike a naval moving target. The frigate has others sensors, like electronic warfare , radars and jammers too. And don't get caught while setting it up hundreds of drones, with how many people?, what logistic? Congratulations, you are very good.
@@sebastiengarnier6664 Exactly that. There are 5 Shahed drones on a launching truck so you’re getting 100 trucks together to launch the drones and then another 100 for the decoys. I rather think not.
@@SteveJones-om6kssi la cible bouge le shaed sert à rien , il y’a une erreur de compréhension tactique
@@julienbounce8169 Shahed used as an example of the size and type of drone necessary. Use another of a similar size with a terminal seeker and moving target capability if you wish. The point is size and numbers not specific drone type.
@ il faut des systèmes de navigation inertielle ou alors de la reconnaissance imagerie infra rouge (ex : kit aasm de safran) c’est pour ça qu’en Ukraine les obus guidé américain non plus aucune efficacité et que le aasm n’est pas brouillable