@@Arturito2017 okay you take the Challenger and I'll take the faster car all day long! In fact I have 3 different V6 cars that whoop the shit out of your so called "sounds good Challenger" 🤣🤣🤣
@Misfit 3.8 Turbo 6 GN, Twin Turbo 3.3 Stinger and Supercharged 3.8 Regal better bring your lunch with all 3! And my tow vehicle is a V8! Y'all enjoy the sound while I blow your doors off.... Princess!
The R/T doesn’t get enough love. Although it’s the lowest power V8 dodge offers it’s still a great package. Dodge makes such crazy hp engines that’s the 5.7 slides under the radar
The problem is that it’s so dated that’s there’s no reason to buy new because the older ones are exactly the same because it’s dated, just buy use and save money
I have a 392 Challenger and the 5.7 Charger. They are both great in their own way. The 392 is fun for cruising around, especially with a stick, but it guzzles the premium fuel like crazy. For every day use the 5.7 on regular fuel has been great. I often get mileage in the high 20s and sometimes in the low 30s on highway runs. We are not in the 70s any more. Many higher tech lighter cars will blow the doors off these, so you need to enjoy the nostalgia and unique attributes of a V8 as your reason for choosing Mopars. My 15 and 16 have been trouble free and easy and affordable to maintain. I have remained impressed with the value of these cars when you consider all the features that are included…..or at least for what I paid back in 15 and 16 lol.
I think the R/T is the sweet spot in the Charger lineup. The price is more affordable, and the performance is still high enough to get your adrenaline pumping. I rent R/Ts from my local car rental company, and they blow me away every time. The engine doesn't overpower the grip. The rumble from the engine is nice, but on the highway I wish there was a way to turn it off so I can hear my music.
@@adamdiazzz the rumble from the engine is quite loud, even on the highway. It's a nice growl, but there is no "volume knob" to the engine unfortunately.
Back when I had my 2019 5.7 challenger I was neck and neck with stingers at the drag strip. I was running 12.92-12.98 1/4 miles with just a upgraded rear tire to get me off the line and I would do consistent 4.5 0-60’s. I won most of the time by a narrow margin. Our ET’s were very similar usually only about a tenth or half a tenth difference. Overall, the v8 torque and sound is the way to go. Especially with how close they are in performance.
i personally love chargers as i’ve had one!! but tbh stinger is better all around, it’s one of the best sedan on the market if not the best. up for debate!
I love my 2020 charger rt. Recently did a mid muffler delete and the sound alone is enough to get it ! Still like the Kia too, but the charger was more for me
I had this exact decision between Charger R/T and a Stinger! Coming from a Challenger, the Charger was an obvious choice but the Stinger seemed like a great alternative. But once I test drove both, the Charger probably fit my style of ride the best. Thanks Joe for this solid rundown for everyone considering both!
I had a 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 and currently have a 21 Charger R/T and I love my Charger. The stinger is a fantastic option on the price range though. The hatch was amazing to have but the trunk space in the charger is great! I personally enjoy v8 sounds and the style of the charger. The stinger has a market and people love them! If you need AWD hands down stinger gt2 but I live in Iowa and get around fine in our winters with AWD. The charger has a lot of character still in 2022. I have the Daytona package and find the seats to be like recliners vs the stinger. I like the uconmect system the most and the interior really isnt as bad as people make it to be in the higher trims. Ultimately you gotta drive them both and figure out what you care about in a vehicle and what's gonna suit you
I love my Dodge Charger SXT AWD Blacktop package!!! Bought it brand new last year and the 2021 are still identical!!! I get so many compliments and smiles because I have Go Mango colour!!!
Yet you'll still be trying to get off the line while I'm halfway down the 1/4 already...Dodge's are highly overrated, and this is coming from a Mopar guy who owns a Stinger lol
Thank you again Joe & Lori for an awesome review, the charger model in general is growing in me. I was never an American Muscle, especially a MOPAR lover until a few months ago. I’m debating between this and a scat
Joe, Thanks for the honest and through review of the Dodge Charger RT; I watched it several times! I was deliberating between a 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HPP and a Dodge Charger RT or Scat Pack. I watched multiple videos on each car, by different You Tube reviewers, before making my final decision. Your reviews on each car were the most thorough and detail oriented. I decided on a 2023 Dodge Charger, in the RT trim. Yes, the Scat Pack...and the Mustang Ecoboost HPP, are faster in stock form. But, as you said in your Charger RT video, the RT is a better "Daily Driver" than the Scat Pack (and probably better than the Mustang too), which is exactly what I want. A sedan is more practical for me as an everyday driver than the Mustang Ecoboost HPP...even though the RT's gas mileage will be worse than the Mustang and slower than both the Mustang and the Scat Pack. I went back-and-forth between the RT and Scat Pack; ultimately, I decided the cost of the extra HP and torque of the Scat Pack did not merit the additional cost ($7K in my Scat Pack build), due to the lack of opportunity to utilize the Scat Pack's extra HP and torque as a daily driver and the fact I have no intentions of racing the car or taking the car to a track. I ordered a 2023 Dodge Charger RT in B5 Blue with the Plus Group, Technology Package, and the Performance Handling Group; the only options I wished I could have added as factory options are a limited slip 3:09 rear end differential and 275 MM tires all around. I will add both of these options as after market additions to my RT for at/about $3K, after the initial break in period of my RT is completed and the RT will be, in my opinion, a near perfect daily driver. Again, thanks for the great review of the Charger RT; your honest analysis of the car's ability to perform as a great daily driver with classic muscle car sound and enough power to have "spirited fun" in a safe manner, while not resulting in the car's rear end "wagging all over the place like a dog" in a dangerous manner, were excellent points and much appreciated. I can't wait to pick up my B5 Blue RT in a few months! :)
Any Mopar products with the 5.7 especially a Charger or Challenger is ABSOLUTELY honorable! 370 horsepower is fit for LITERALLY any day. Daily driver for the weekdays, and then track/fun car on the weekends. I'm glad that people along with Dodge thought of that, and thank you for making this video!
I was in this very predicament about a year ago having to decide between a scat pack charger and a Stinger GT it’s tough. Overall best bang for your buck I have to say the Stinger Gt wins every time. The Stinger GT maybe not have the power of a scat pack or the obnoxious v8 rumble so many of us have to come to love…..but in the end the performance along with the styling and reliability of the Stinger make the Stinger the best choice. I still would absolutely love to have a scatty but reliability is more important right now to me.
The new car "shortage" won't last forever. If you have dealers in your area jacking up prices just don't buy from them. Some customers have long memories.
@@joefather2463 post 2015 r/t / scatpack dodges don't really depreciate that much since they're really sought after for most dodge buyers I noticed before the pandemic after the initial 1-2 years of depreciation their prices weren't dropping that much so rip, I was gonna get an older r/t but decided I want a lighter car so now I'm thinking about getting a c5 vette
@@Toymonkeyjr Theres a chance a new charger/challenger could release before I buy one maybe they will start fo go down a little after that. either way im willing to pay the little extra bit considering electric cars will likely be our only option fairly soon
@@joefather2463 Unless you live in cali 50% of car sales after 2035 is still going to be gas cars so while they're slowly being phased out they're not becoming obsolete and more efficient technology will come out in the future to make them more economical most likely, also regarding the new generation most likely going to be the 2024 model year if not delayed to 2025 but with covid and all that expect there to be low production numbers the first year so it could possibly be a while until we see significant price drops, we all can hope though. Also another reason why I think price drops are uncertain is with less and less gas performance cars being made especially rwd v8's I think for the enthusiast market their price with be pretty stable because the used market is gonna be what people are relying on in the future to get these old gems
I loved my 15 Challenger RT … I mean I really loved!!! Never thought I’d trade it for a KIA STINGER GT2😱😱😱… I miss the V8 rumble I’m a V8 guy. But I needed to go 4dr and the prices for these Dodges in 2021, no im not doing not when I know they’re inflated prices it’s Insane!!! I love my Kia but if you need a car to seat more than 4 get the Charger!!! The stinger wins in day to day chill riding but has the sport mode that lets you GOOO! The stinger absolutely kills the Dodge in tuning. I mean a chip($1100) and some intakes and I’m hanging with 392s and actually beating them off the jump. Now the Dodge is probably the car ya pass down to your kids tho. I’ll own another when I’m ready for a Hellcat
If there’s 1 plus that the Kia Stinger has over the Challenge is you can get the Stinger in AWD. For those where climate is an issue it good to have an AWD vehicle. However when it comes down to it, I would still take a Scatpack, Hellcat over the 5.7 hemi.
I’ll take a V-8 over a 6 cylinder turbo anytime. This car looks like a sports sedan when compared to a Stinger. My first new car was a 1970 Charger and I loved that car. Of course this is my opinion and some will go with the Stinger but for my money I’m a Charger guy.
It's just that other car manufacturers are making cars that put out more horsepower than the RT. Yes Dodge do need to bump the horsepower up in the RT. At least 400 or 415 horsepower.
I recent picked up a GT Limited Stinger (AWD). I was in the market for a 4 door car that can be fun, but also have room for the family. The warante is amazing. You can go awd or rwd. Interior is great, cheap in some ways but still good. Very uncommon car that gets attention. Brembos. Its is a new car and has its flaws like the launch control (doesnt build boost for a sports car??) But a breaksnip fixes it easy. Really easy to mod and unmod to do dealership stuff and make 500 to the wheels.
This is coming from a Mopar guy: I had a 2021 RT Daytona on order, and cancelled it and got a 2022 Stinger GT Elite 3.3L AWD instead...and can tell you the Stinger destroys the RT, in looks, value and performance. Dodge's interior is dated as hell; the Stinger is a mix of BMW+Audi+Mercedes for the interior. The exterior gets me mistaken for a Maserati a lot. 8.4" screen vs 10.5", Brembo's vs not, flat bottom steering wheel vs not, shitty acceleration vs...not lol. Get a Stinger and you won't be disappointed
Highly disagree. I’ve driven both (among others) and went with the Stinger for obvious reasons. The ONLY thing a charger has going for it is the V8 sound and the R/T’s sound is even subpar compared to even a Scatpack. But compare them as cars in general, Stinger wins hands down in looks, speed, acceleration, handling, practicality, luxury. Plus with a modified exhaust, the Stinger sounds great. Stinger will also last a heck of a lot longer than any Charger as well. There is almost no turbo lag so idk what that’s about and “light steering”? try taking the car out of Eco and Comfort mode then get back to us. I used to not care for Kia until i drove the Stinger. Best car purchase i’ve ever made “so far”.
@@ejmich8136 About a second difference between them. I bought my RT because I got a great deal on it used. No way I would pay the 43k sticker price it was new. Between the GT and Scat Pack I would probably go with the Dodge but GT and RT isn't even a race until Dodge either adds power to the 5.7 or introduces some forced induction or electrification.
Love the Indigo Blue. The blacked out package is also very attractive. The charger is a very attractive car for me personally but the stinger gt is more attractive. The v8 on the charger is preferable but you can get brembos on your stinger. You have to upgrade to a scat pack to get the brembos on the charger. The price on either the charger r/t or the stinger can vary a lot depending how you get them optioned. The stinger GT 0-60 time is around 4.5 seconds. Excellent review as always. 👍
With the Stinger, one has a stressed, turbocharged V6 versus a loping, easy going V8 in the Charger with NO TURBOS to replace. The V8 should last longer and have better maintenance. Finally, there is LESS TO BEEAK, which is always a plus, because there are no twin turbos, no twin intercoolers, and none of the associated piping to break or leak. You also get the V8 SOUND, versus a V6 "sound" in the Stinger. For my HARD EARNED money, it's Charger R/T all the way!!!!!!
I’d say the RT and the stinger are pretty neck to neck if I’m being honest 🤔 just a few subtle differences here and there but the deciding factor for me has got to be the reliability in Kia’s these days so I would personally choose the stinger 😮💨
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 uh no? Read the reliability ratings from JD power and KBB, Kia comes out on top. I wish that was true tho cuz i personally prefer the v8 but I’d rather just go with the more reliable option instead
Not neck to neck at all. The Kia Stinger Gt has the Twin-turbo & awd advantage. 376lbs of torque. The kia will smoke it everytime as that turbo boosts, however a dodge with a turbo would easily keep up
@@Benscarreviews you would've loved the one I traded in for my scat, front splitter, rear diffuser, corsa catback extreme, k&n intake and lowered an inch front and back
I WILL SAY THIS TO THOSE THAT WANT THE R/T . In the summertime , if you have the sunroof please be careful . That screen will get hot asf and so hot that the glue will start to loose its grip and drip down the screen . Doing apple-car play will also heat up the screen as well . I have a 2014 AWD r/t and 2017 r/t , those screens need to be took extra care of !
If your only priority is straight line acceleration on a flat road and a noisemaker, the Charger is the choice. Want a true GT that goes around curves and a far more upscale interior, choose the Stinger.
@@derekintrovert5619 only in v6 I’m fully aware of there line up stinger is v6 twin turbo the stinger is in the mid to high 4s when the rt 5.7 charger is in the mid to low 5 seconds
Most definitely Joe. It’s better looking, it’s American muscle and the color scheme Dodge picks just makes it a top contender. I didn’t even mention the power and etc.
That Dodge Charger is a beauty wherever you look at it, and that color is spectacular. Ok 370 HP more than enough for a track day, no traction control and no stability control, this is how you best enjoy an American muscle car, man and the beast, man and the car, the best team. Ok Raiti's Rides, very good job, good start to the week.🇦🇷
Oh BTW, you have to step up to the scat pack or SRT trim levels to get the nice steering wheel.. Since it is just an RT, Dodge did not add the performance bits with that trim level and would be a waste for that car fyi
Joe, I’m looking at the Scat Pack. I’ve seen your reviews on them. The R/T is nice to but it seems like the 6.4 has more torque. You’ve driven both. Your opinion?
My dad had a 6.1 and a 6.4 Charger, and I have a 5.7 Challenger RT. IMO it depends on what you're' doing with the car, if you're storing it, budget, and options. 6.4 is a monster, limited modability. Can get the widebody option with 305 tires for better traction, which you will need. Super low ground clearance, roughly 3 to 4 inches if I recall correctly. Requires premium fuel, stiffer ride than the 5.7, 0-60mh in 4.2 seconds. The 5.7 still sounds great, still has plenty of pull. Does not require premium fuel unless you get a 6 speed. Can be optioned to have similar performance equipment as the scat, although you can't get 6 piston brembos, only the 4 piston Loads of options and can be up to roughly 600RWHP safely, if you want to do a build. 0-60mph in 5.1 seconds. I loved the 6.4 my dad had, it was incredibly fast and so much fun. My 5.7 is still an amazing ride, very comfortable and plenty of power. I don't race and daily drive my RT thru winters as well. You can do it with a 6.4 but the ground clearance might be an issue. Hope that helps! the 6.4 has 480hp and 470lbs torque. the 5.7 has 370hp and 395lbs torque. (For the Charger, slightly lower than the Challenger with the same powerplants)
You should say which of these features are options. The blacked out trim is an option for example. And you can get bigger brakes on the R/T. Pretty sure a flat bottom wheel is also in one of the packages. But great review, especially the driving footage.
I mean, of COURSE he's gong to say buy the Charger, since every car lot everywhere has a dozen of them for sale at any given time. Most car lots never have Stingers. It's kind of a no-brainer that a car salesman will encourage you to buy what they always have on hand. I chose Stinger over Charger (and others) because it is so unique. I don't want a car everyone else has. Plus it's fun, reliable, and with the hatchback super practical. All while being beautiful.
@@joefather2463Well, it is a hatchback, not a sedan. I've never had a hatchback before, and it's amazing the size and amount of stuff I can fit in the car because of the hatchback and fold down seats. One trip I fit 2 oversizd swivel barstools with backs, a fake plant, and entire Costco haul, plus a Walmat trip... all in the back with room to spare!
Nice review. I think this would suffice for me. But I know the 485hp scat pack would make me feel 16 again with my license. Hands down get the V8, over a stinger.
I went with the stinger personally. It was just a more comfortable ride overall. Plus it has a mode called "comfort" mode which is prettu sweet. Makes it feel very responsive to the turn
It's crazy because the RT only became slow when they made the RT scatpack. the RT was the original. even when they made the SRT8 people still was on the RT. if they never made their RT scatpack people still would be on the RT because it's the second highest to the SRT8. you were still looked at as a big dog a big man if you had the RT.
@@JVeleta11 if you know anything about cars it depends on a lot of factors weight horsepower and torque the RT has one thing going against the car it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 that's true I think my whole point is I want people to understand it's not really the horsepower it's the talk the horsepower is just to get you going the for example did you see Dodge when they reveal they little compact car it has 260 some horsepower but 380 torque that is V8 torque the talk almost what matters
I’m new to the muscle car scene your review on this car made me go to the dodge dealership and order one exactly like this as it is my dream car. But man I got to wait since it’s coming from that factory
I’m a salesman for Kia and I have owned a 2016 rt and 2018 rt and I love and will always love my rts but man that stinger will put some work on them haha
I had full leather on my previous charger RT it’s a nightmare during the summer I’m from California and it gets hot out here during the summer not a good combination with full leather seats
As much as I love chargers and I absolutely love them I hate to say this but if I had to buy between the 2 it would be without hesitation a Stinger GT all blackout to hide the stupid fake vents. The Stinger just gives you more for the money and backed up by a good warranty 👍🏾
I commute 80 miles a day. Dont want to buy a Camry. Even though the 2025 Camry look pretty good but still boring. However the Charger RT seems like a reliable, comfortable, and also fun daily car.
Stinger Gt over this prehistoric boat .Stinger is faster handles better brakes better. The interior on the stinger is light years better than this cheap fleet car style plastic interior. There is no comparison whatsoever.
Thanks Joe and Lori…….great review and comparison. I’m thinking charger is just raw power vs stinger maybe a little more refined …….but I’ve never driven either one. Just a guess from me ! That blue looks great in the sun 🌞
Charger is better with performance, Stinger on other hand might be great in performance not long ago earlier someone passed by my street in one going fast so a fast car Charger is quicker.
This is such a great comparison. I was cross shopping a Stinger GT2 versus a Chrysler 300S (5.7L V8, essentially the same as the Charger) and I couldn't decide. I loved the freshness and tech of the Stinger, and its TTV6 is definitely gutsty as hell. But the 300 just had that classic swagger, NA V8 and that solid, heavy feel. Ended up going with the 300 and have no regrets!
@@LovepreetAujla Did you test drive the GT? Because it's also more fun in a straight line 🤷🏿♂️ However, I'm not trying to bring down your choice. You did due diligence and test drive both so I am out of place to second guess your decision. Enjoy your car to the fullest man.
Joe, Great video! As an all around daily driver, which would you choose...and why. A Dodge Charge R/T or a Mustang Ecoboost? I am weighing the "Pros and Cons" of both to try to decide. I know you have "lots of sear time in both." Any advice and/or assistance you may provide is appreciated. Thank you!
The r/t having small brakes and a big powerful motor is a bad combination but the Twinkies and liquorice would be good while waiting for the tow truck.
The 5.7 engine is such a nice option. It has potential to be upgraded down the line but has enough performance to keep u happy and that v8 sound 💯
I'm not totally sure that this 5.7 sounds better than the Stinger GT 🤷🏿♂️
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The Stinger GT kicks the shit out of a 5.7 Hemi period!
@@regalgn1 yeah but it sounds like shit😂. Like I said I’ll still take the challenger all day.
@@Arturito2017 okay you take the Challenger and I'll take the faster car all day long!
In fact I have
3 different V6 cars that whoop the shit out of your so called "sounds good Challenger" 🤣🤣🤣
@Misfit 3.8 Turbo 6 GN, Twin Turbo 3.3 Stinger and Supercharged 3.8 Regal better bring your lunch with all 3! And my tow vehicle is a V8!
Y'all enjoy the sound while I blow your doors off.... Princess!
The R/T doesn’t get enough love. Although it’s the lowest power V8 dodge offers it’s still a great package. Dodge makes such crazy hp engines that’s the 5.7 slides under the radar
the 2011 r/t uses the same engine and makes the same horsepower figure as the 2022. difference is the 2011 is 20k cheaper
@@VeryRegularGuy yeah but them joints ugly af tho 🤣
@@VeryRegularGuy they ugly u gotta put in at least 5kto make it look good and u still got the 5 speed
@@just_a5.7 youd rather pay 40k+ for an ancient motor thats more or less been around since 2006? go ahead
@@VeryRegularGuy lol I payed 25k for my 2019 charger rt in April 2020
Even though the interior of the charger is dated I gotta go with a wonderful NA v8. No replacement for displacement
I like the way that you think!
Nicely said
Just buy the 2019 , cuz it the same with this one, save more money
The problem is that it’s so dated that’s there’s no reason to buy new because the older ones are exactly the same because it’s dated, just buy use and save money
@@paladin3116 right , I don't see no reason to buy new one
I have a 392 Challenger and the 5.7 Charger. They are both great in their own way. The 392 is fun for cruising around, especially with a stick, but it guzzles the premium fuel like crazy. For every day use the 5.7 on regular fuel has been great. I often get mileage in the high 20s and sometimes in the low 30s on highway runs. We are not in the 70s any more. Many higher tech lighter cars will blow the doors off these, so you need to enjoy the nostalgia and unique attributes of a V8 as your reason for choosing Mopars. My 15 and 16 have been trouble free and easy and affordable to maintain. I have remained impressed with the value of these cars when you consider all the features that are included…..or at least for what I paid back in 15 and 16 lol.
Want a land line rocket flashy car 🚘 without spending too much funds.
Would recommend the lexus gsx
You put regular in your 5.7 ?
I think the R/T is the sweet spot in the Charger lineup. The price is more affordable, and the performance is still high enough to get your adrenaline pumping. I rent R/Ts from my local car rental company, and they blow me away every time. The engine doesn't overpower the grip. The rumble from the engine is nice, but on the highway I wish there was a way to turn it off so I can hear my music.
Try this : the volume knob
@@adamdiazzz the rumble from the engine is quite loud, even on the highway. It's a nice growl, but there is no "volume knob" to the engine unfortunately.
@@stevenreichertart 😂
@@stevenreichertart 😭😂😂😂😂
You better get Aux then boy
Chargers and Challengers reviews and re-overview videos are amazing! Halloween treats going good! 👻
I am so glad I can bring this teat to you on Halloween!
Back when I had my 2019 5.7 challenger I was neck and neck with stingers at the drag strip. I was running 12.92-12.98 1/4 miles with just a upgraded rear tire to get me off the line and I would do consistent 4.5 0-60’s. I won most of the time by a narrow margin. Our ET’s were very similar usually only about a tenth or half a tenth difference. Overall, the v8 torque and sound is the way to go. Especially with how close they are in performance.
yeah no.
That v8 rumble gets me everytime! Love charger's.
i personally love chargers as i’ve had one!! but tbh stinger is better all around, it’s one of the best sedan on the market if not the best. up for debate!
i concur
its also faster.The charger R/t is kind of slow sadly.
@@michaeldennis3028 sick color on your Stinger! 🤩 It would look so much better with a scorpion wing (black)
@@psw3041 oh!! dont give me ideas 😂😂
If it was a 6.4 for this price it would compete but the Stinger GT is just better than the 5.7
I love my 2020 charger rt. Recently did a mid muffler delete and the sound alone is enough to get it ! Still like the Kia too, but the charger was more for me
This is the Swiss Army knife in the Charger lineup, IMO. Could easily see myself daily driving this & occasionally taking this to autocross.
You are so very right about that Daryl!
Correct, the RT is the charger I might buy.
I had this exact decision between Charger R/T and a Stinger! Coming from a Challenger, the Charger was an obvious choice but the Stinger seemed like a great alternative. But once I test drove both, the Charger probably fit my style of ride the best. Thanks Joe for this solid rundown for everyone considering both!
The kia stinger gt Scorpion coming soon is even better than the original stinger gt though, obviously costs even more funds
once I test drove both, Stinger is way.... better, except the sound
@@lucasfu580 I love both cars! I can’t find a Stinger at all. So it’s going to be the 2022 Charger R/T
My 2015 Charger Rallye has been very reliable. I am entering it into my local car show next August. Torred Red.
Yes I had v6' 2015 rally edition seat warmers self ignition starter all black 🖤 tinted windows AWD. It was nice had it in 2019 before it got repoed
PURSUIT HEMI 5.7 AWD didn’t pay the car note lol
That 2021 Dodge Charger RT is definitely a good choice to drive. And I like that Indigo Blue color very nice car.
Yeah that blue is 🔥
I had a 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 and currently have a 21 Charger R/T and I love my Charger. The stinger is a fantastic option on the price range though. The hatch was amazing to have but the trunk space in the charger is great! I personally enjoy v8 sounds and the style of the charger. The stinger has a market and people love them! If you need AWD hands down stinger gt2 but I live in Iowa and get around fine in our winters with AWD. The charger has a lot of character still in 2022. I have the Daytona package and find the seats to be like recliners vs the stinger. I like the uconmect system the most and the interior really isnt as bad as people make it to be in the higher trims. Ultimately you gotta drive them both and figure out what you care about in a vehicle and what's gonna suit you
save the sedans, save the chargers! looks good, this car has aged well and good power!!, thanks Joe
Always enjoy your unique review of cars. Keep going 💪
The Dodge looks great in that blue 🏁
That really means the world! Thank you for letting me share my car passion with you!
Me laughing my butt off because I bought my 2019 scat pack 392 loaded to the gills for $44k. Holy moly prices are insane!!
Holy cow where’d you get it for so cheap?!
They start at 48k here in Cali but they are super marked up.
Lmao that's not cheap
@@albertosanchez8645 lol ikr 🤣🤣🤣
I love my Dodge Charger SXT AWD Blacktop package!!! Bought it brand new last year and the 2021 are still identical!!! I get so many compliments and smiles because I have Go Mango colour!!!
That is awesome congrats!
Dodge vs Kia.....DODGE, The look of the front end is killer and enough alone to make the Charger the winner. Thanks Joe and Lori.
You make a very good point!
Yet you'll still be trying to get off the line while I'm halfway down the 1/4 already...Dodge's are highly overrated, and this is coming from a Mopar guy who owns a Stinger lol
I'd take a stinger Gt over this.
@@reloadingdontshoot1 100% correct. Stinger GT over charger R/T anyday. 👌🏿💯
Thank you again Joe & Lori for an awesome review, the charger model in general is growing in me. I was never an American Muscle, especially a MOPAR lover until a few months ago. I’m debating between this and a scat
Scat over this man
I miss the R/T Road and Track I had for ten years. Thanks for sharing the Mopar muscle Joe. Nice job and Lori as well!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I drove both Sunday 21 stinger was a beast 380 hp twin turbo v6
But the sound of the 22 rt 5.7 hemi it was bad ass and more interior room
I am so glad that you are loving this one.
Joe,
Thanks for the honest and through review of the Dodge Charger RT; I watched it several times! I was deliberating between a 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HPP and a Dodge Charger RT or Scat Pack. I watched multiple videos on each car, by different You Tube reviewers, before making my final decision. Your reviews on each car were the most thorough and detail oriented.
I decided on a 2023 Dodge Charger, in the RT trim. Yes, the Scat Pack...and the Mustang Ecoboost HPP, are faster in stock form. But, as you said in your Charger RT video, the RT is a better "Daily Driver" than the Scat Pack (and probably better than the Mustang too), which is exactly what I want. A sedan is more practical for me as an everyday driver than the Mustang Ecoboost HPP...even though the RT's gas mileage will be worse than the Mustang and slower than both the Mustang and the Scat Pack. I went back-and-forth between the RT and Scat Pack; ultimately, I decided the cost of the extra HP and torque of the Scat Pack did not merit the additional cost ($7K in my Scat Pack build), due to the lack of opportunity to utilize the Scat Pack's extra HP and torque as a daily driver and the fact I have no intentions of racing the car or taking the car to a track.
I ordered a 2023 Dodge Charger RT in B5 Blue with the Plus Group, Technology Package, and the Performance Handling Group; the only options I wished I could have added as factory options are a limited slip 3:09 rear end differential and 275 MM tires all around. I will add both of these options as after market additions to my RT for at/about $3K, after the initial break in period of my RT is completed and the RT will be, in my opinion, a near perfect daily driver. Again, thanks for the great review of the Charger RT; your honest analysis of the car's ability to perform as a great daily driver with classic muscle car sound and enough power to have "spirited fun" in a safe manner, while not resulting in the car's rear end "wagging all over the place like a dog" in a dangerous manner, were excellent points and much appreciated. I can't wait to pick up my B5 Blue RT in a few months! :)
That is so awesome! I am so glad that I could help you find the right car for you! You are going to love her!
I agree with you Buddy, that engine cover leaves a lot to be desired. Come on Dodge, it's a Hemi, have some pride.
Any Mopar products with the 5.7 especially a Charger or Challenger is ABSOLUTELY honorable! 370 horsepower is fit for LITERALLY any day. Daily driver for the weekdays, and then track/fun car on the weekends. I'm glad that people along with Dodge thought of that, and thank you for making this video!
I was in this very predicament about a year ago having to decide between a scat pack charger and a Stinger GT it’s tough. Overall best bang for your buck I have to say the Stinger Gt wins every time. The Stinger GT maybe not have the power of a scat pack or the obnoxious v8 rumble so many of us have to come to love…..but in the end the performance along with the styling and reliability of the Stinger make the Stinger the best choice. I still would absolutely love to have a scatty but reliability is more important right now to me.
You realize it's a kia as well.... reliability isn't their best suit even if they make better cars now
@@nismoaltima1326 Kia was ranked 2nd for reliability 2 years in a row
@@robertmcgee3616 proof??? I highly doubt it's out performing toyota and lexus
STI is a good alternative. Faster 0-60 time and manual trans.
I just ate one of those stinger GTs for lunch with my fbo 2014 RT Charger Max, I have 426 to the wheel, running with the SKATs ...
Nothing beats the start up of Dodge HEMI🔥
Understood the reference about the inch. Man... my local dealerships still jacking up the prices, this or a Challenger but need to be V8.
I totally feel your pain Carlos! Thanks for watching!
I go out of state
The new car "shortage" won't last forever. If you have dealers in your area jacking up prices just don't buy from them. Some customers have long memories.
Stealerships
My local dealer in Illinois is asking sticker for their scats. One is 45k with a stick. Just keep looking for an honest dealer.
Passes everything but a gas station. lol
Great work Joe and Lori.
You better believe it!
Facts
Having owned a R/T a SRT8 and a stinger gt. The stinger is the better everyday car vs the SRT8. And is better than the r/t all around
Thanks William for that great input from your experience!
I figured I seen on UA-cam channel Stinger dust mustang GT 3-4 times
@@RA-ui8yw Stinger is more than an average car it's a beast no matter only difference is it's Korean made and it's still new to the game
@@RA-ui8yw But I'm still a dodge guy just my preference the dangerous winters up here is too long
@@pursuithemi5.7awd81 What is wrong with Korean made nowadays? They are high on the reliability list. Your TV and phone might be Korean made.
My vote is for the Stinger GT. It’s good that we have choices. I notice most of the comments are from diehard dodge, Chrysler, fans. To each his own.
Stinger GT RWD for me too bro 🙋🏿♂️
R/T has way more power than I’d ever need. Perfect for me. I’m not track racing or anything. That’s just me though. Love the car
Nothing wrong with that!
Miss the days of the scat packs being $35-40k now the RT costs $45k 😂
Got my Scat brand new for $34k lol
@@Toymonkeyjr im saving up to get an rt in 2 years, really hoping it goes down a good bit
@@joefather2463 post 2015 r/t / scatpack dodges don't really depreciate that much since they're really sought after for most dodge buyers I noticed before the pandemic after the initial 1-2 years of depreciation their prices weren't dropping that much so rip, I was gonna get an older r/t but decided I want a lighter car so now I'm thinking about getting a c5 vette
@@Toymonkeyjr Theres a chance a new charger/challenger could release before I buy one maybe they will start fo go down a little after that. either way im willing to pay the little extra bit considering electric cars will likely be our only option fairly soon
@@joefather2463 Unless you live in cali 50% of car sales after 2035 is still going to be gas cars so while they're slowly being phased out they're not becoming obsolete and more efficient technology will come out in the future to make them more economical most likely, also regarding the new generation most likely going to be the 2024 model year if not delayed to 2025 but with covid and all that expect there to be low production numbers the first year so it could possibly be a while until we see significant price drops, we all can hope though. Also another reason why I think price drops are uncertain is with less and less gas performance cars being made especially rwd v8's I think for the enthusiast market their price with be pretty stable because the used market is gonna be what people are relying on in the future to get these old gems
I loved my 15 Challenger RT … I mean I really loved!!! Never thought I’d trade it for a KIA STINGER GT2😱😱😱… I miss the V8 rumble I’m a V8 guy. But I needed to go 4dr and the prices for these Dodges in 2021, no im not doing not when I know they’re inflated prices it’s Insane!!! I love my Kia but if you need a car to seat more than 4 get the Charger!!! The stinger wins in day to day chill riding but has the sport mode that lets you GOOO! The stinger absolutely kills the Dodge in tuning. I mean a chip($1100) and some intakes and I’m hanging with 392s and actually beating them off the jump. Now the Dodge is probably the car ya pass down to your kids tho. I’ll own another when I’m ready for a Hellcat
Exactly man. Perfect opinion. 👌🏿
Man didn't have one negative thing to say about the car.
Difference between a car enthusiast and a salesman.
Optimism vs realism
To each his own
If there’s 1 plus that the Kia Stinger has over the Challenge is you can get the Stinger in AWD. For those where climate is an issue it good to have an AWD vehicle. However when it comes down to it, I would still take a Scatpack, Hellcat over the 5.7 hemi.
Mmmmm blue is so pretty!!!! Thank you Joe Lori!!!!!
I really love this color for sure!
I have a the hellraisen of that exact one! And I LOVE IT! fun to drive.
Thanks for sharing that Brian!
Yes I love my daily RT 🔥
I gotta get me a r/t
I got a sxt challenger in March and I keep watching rt videos I can’t wait til I get one
You will love it 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
It is cooler and less expensive
This is very true!
And not getting discontinued.
@@TheBreakfastLover not yet....
I love the exhaust on this particular car. It’s sounds great but it’s not annoyingly loud.
I’ll take a V-8 over a 6 cylinder turbo anytime. This car looks like a sports sedan when compared to a Stinger. My first new car was a 1970 Charger and I loved that car. Of course this is my opinion and some will go with the Stinger but for my money I’m a Charger guy.
Agreed
Imo the most dope looking muscle sedan I’d go dodge!
Agreed
Overpriced fiat trash.
@@righteousone1 hater
@@righteousone1 it’s not a fiat 😑
It's just that other car manufacturers are making cars that put out more horsepower than the RT. Yes Dodge do need to bump the horsepower up in the RT. At least 400 or 415 horsepower.
Then they would have to bump up the scats to 585 horsepower
I recent picked up a GT Limited Stinger (AWD). I was in the market for a 4 door car that can be fun, but also have room for the family. The warante is amazing. You can go awd or rwd. Interior is great, cheap in some ways but still good. Very uncommon car that gets attention. Brembos.
Its is a new car and has its flaws like the launch control (doesnt build boost for a sports car??) But a breaksnip fixes it easy. Really easy to mod and unmod to do dealership stuff and make 500 to the wheels.
This is coming from a Mopar guy: I had a 2021 RT Daytona on order, and cancelled it and got a 2022 Stinger GT Elite 3.3L AWD instead...and can tell you the Stinger destroys the RT, in looks, value and performance. Dodge's interior is dated as hell; the Stinger is a mix of BMW+Audi+Mercedes for the interior. The exterior gets me mistaken for a Maserati a lot. 8.4" screen vs 10.5", Brembo's vs not, flat bottom steering wheel vs not, shitty acceleration vs...not lol. Get a Stinger and you won't be disappointed
Agreed plus the 100k/10 year warranty you can’t beat!
I think the opposite. Can't compare to a v8 rumble. The speed is negligent. Stingers have really bad turbo lag and the steering is to light.
Highly disagree. I’ve driven both (among others) and went with the Stinger for obvious reasons.
The ONLY thing a charger has going for it is the V8 sound and the R/T’s sound is even subpar compared to even a Scatpack.
But compare them as cars in general, Stinger wins hands down in looks, speed, acceleration, handling, practicality, luxury.
Plus with a modified exhaust, the Stinger sounds great. Stinger will also last a heck of a lot longer than any Charger as well.
There is almost no turbo lag so idk what that’s about and “light steering”? try taking the car out of Eco and Comfort mode then get back to us.
I used to not care for Kia until i drove the Stinger. Best car purchase i’ve ever made “so far”.
@@ejmich8136 you’ve obviously never drove a stinger lol…
@@ejmich8136 About a second difference between them. I bought my RT because I got a great deal on it used. No way I would pay the 43k sticker price it was new. Between the GT and Scat Pack I would probably go with the Dodge but GT and RT isn't even a race until Dodge either adds power to the 5.7 or introduces some forced induction or electrification.
Love the Indigo Blue. The blacked out package is also very attractive. The charger is a very attractive car for me personally but the stinger gt is more attractive. The v8 on the charger is preferable but you can get brembos on your stinger. You have to upgrade to a scat pack to get the brembos on the charger. The price on either the charger r/t or the stinger can vary a lot depending how you get them optioned. The stinger GT 0-60 time is around 4.5 seconds. Excellent review as always. 👍
You get that sweet V8 sound minus the fear of going a bit too fast for comfort.
With the Stinger, one has a stressed, turbocharged V6 versus a loping, easy going V8 in the Charger with NO TURBOS to replace. The V8 should last longer and have better maintenance. Finally, there is LESS TO BEEAK, which is always a plus, because there are no twin turbos, no twin intercoolers, and none of the associated piping to break or leak. You also get the V8 SOUND, versus a V6 "sound" in the Stinger. For my HARD EARNED money, it's Charger R/T all the way!!!!!!
I’d say the RT and the stinger are pretty neck to neck if I’m being honest 🤔 just a few subtle differences here and there but the deciding factor for me has got to be the reliability in Kia’s these days so I would personally choose the stinger 😮💨
Dude Dodges are much more reliable than Kia's these days.
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 uh no? Read the reliability ratings from JD power and KBB, Kia comes out on top. I wish that was true tho cuz i personally prefer the v8 but I’d rather just go with the more reliable option instead
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 very wrong.
@@joshb6382 doesn’t JD power get paid to rank car companies high on lists like that ?
Not neck to neck at all. The Kia Stinger Gt has the Twin-turbo & awd advantage. 376lbs of torque. The kia will smoke it everytime as that turbo boosts, however a dodge with a turbo would easily keep up
Have had my eyes on this beast for a while!
It is a ton of car for the money!
@@RaitisRides perfect for a young adult who loves mopar!
@@Benscarreviews Or someone who wants a good V8 daily.
@@RaitisRides I check those boxes off!
@@Benscarreviews you would've loved the one I traded in for my scat, front splitter, rear diffuser, corsa catback extreme, k&n intake and lowered an inch front and back
I WILL SAY THIS TO THOSE THAT WANT THE R/T . In the summertime , if you have the sunroof please be careful . That screen will get hot asf and so hot that the glue will start to loose its grip and drip down the screen . Doing apple-car play will also heat up the screen as well . I have a 2014 AWD r/t and 2017 r/t , those screens need to be took extra care of !
If your only priority is straight line acceleration on a flat road and a noisemaker, the Charger is the choice. Want a true GT that goes around curves and a far more upscale interior, choose the Stinger.
Charger sounds great the the stringer is faster, accelerates harder and u can get it in Awd with the performance engine.
U can get AWD In The Charger visit their website
@@derekintrovert5619 Only as V6, no?
@@derekintrovert5619 only in v6 I’m fully aware of there line up stinger is v6 twin turbo the stinger is in the mid to high 4s when the rt 5.7 charger is in the mid to low 5 seconds
Most definitely Joe. It’s better looking, it’s American muscle and the color scheme Dodge picks just makes it a top contender. I didn’t even mention the power and etc.
That Dodge Charger is a beauty wherever you look at it, and that color is spectacular.
Ok 370 HP more than enough for a track day, no traction control and no stability control, this is how you best enjoy an American muscle car, man and the beast, man and the car, the best team.
Ok Raiti's Rides, very good job, good start to the week.🇦🇷
thinking about getting one, this is very helpful, subbed
Thanks! I appreciate you being part of the Raiti's Rides family!
was my first muscle car. absolutely beautiful car, stepped up to the scat but this car was awesome
Oh BTW, you have to step up to the scat pack or SRT trim levels to get the nice steering wheel.. Since it is just an RT, Dodge did not add the performance bits with that trim level and would be a waste for that car fyi
That is a beautiful car and awesome sounding V8. This car is way better than a stinger gt.
That indigo is so beautiful, miss having an rt, the scat pack is fun but man did the rt purr too, had some get up and go!
Joe, I’m looking at the Scat Pack. I’ve seen your reviews on them. The R/T is nice to but it seems like the 6.4 has more torque. You’ve driven both. Your opinion?
My dad had a 6.1 and a 6.4 Charger, and I have a 5.7 Challenger RT. IMO it depends on what you're' doing with the car, if you're storing it, budget, and options. 6.4 is a monster, limited modability. Can get the widebody option with 305 tires for better traction, which you will need. Super low ground clearance, roughly 3 to 4 inches if I recall correctly. Requires premium fuel, stiffer ride than the 5.7, 0-60mh in 4.2 seconds.
The 5.7 still sounds great, still has plenty of pull. Does not require premium fuel unless you get a 6 speed. Can be optioned to have similar performance equipment as the scat, although you can't get 6 piston brembos, only the 4 piston Loads of options and can be up to roughly 600RWHP safely, if you want to do a build. 0-60mph in 5.1 seconds.
I loved the 6.4 my dad had, it was incredibly fast and so much fun. My 5.7 is still an amazing ride, very comfortable and plenty of power. I don't race and daily drive my RT thru winters as well. You can do it with a 6.4 but the ground clearance might be an issue.
Hope that helps!
the 6.4 has 480hp and 470lbs torque. the 5.7 has 370hp and 395lbs torque. (For the Charger, slightly lower than the Challenger with the same powerplants)
@@jordancameron2482 thank you! That helps a lot!
If you can afford the 392 you'll be glad you did
@@jordancameron2482 If you can afford the 6.4L don't buy the 5.7L 👌🏿
Don't do it
I know which way to go 😈💪🏼😈
The 392 motor checks all the boxes! It’s a nice step up if you’ve driven a R/T.
Thanks Joe & Lori, great review 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The stinger GT sits between the R/T and the scat pack in terms of fun to drive.
I was looking for this review. Thanks man you are the best.
Do a yearly update for the new chargers ❤🙋♂️
You got it brother! Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Comparing twin turbo v6 vs na v8 is crazy
You should say which of these features are options. The blacked out trim is an option for example. And you can get bigger brakes on the R/T. Pretty sure a flat bottom wheel is also in one of the packages. But great review, especially the driving footage.
Hey Raiti, you missed the 2022 Sorento plug in..
Stay tuned for it!
Thank you, i am getting my hands on one next week.. the sx pretrige 😍
Man this needs a refresh. Every hood brother drives these. Aite
I mean, of COURSE he's gong to say buy the Charger, since every car lot everywhere has a dozen of them for sale at any given time. Most car lots never have Stingers. It's kind of a no-brainer that a car salesman will encourage you to buy what they always have on hand.
I chose Stinger over Charger (and others) because it is so unique. I don't want a car everyone else has. Plus it's fun, reliable, and with the hatchback super practical. All while being beautiful.
Got my stinger over a charger ill never go back
I like stingers a lot too but the rear end looks kinda odd to me. not necessarily in a bad way but if I was going off looks Ide probably go charger
@@joefather2463 rear end to me reminds me of Porsche or masaradi
@@joefather2463Well, it is a hatchback, not a sedan. I've never had a hatchback before, and it's amazing the size and amount of stuff I can fit in the car because of the hatchback and fold down seats. One trip I fit 2 oversizd swivel barstools with backs, a fake plant, and entire Costco haul, plus a Walmat trip... all in the back with room to spare!
Nice review. I think this would suffice for me. But I know the 485hp scat pack would make me feel 16 again with my license. Hands down get the V8, over a stinger.
I went with the stinger personally. It was just a more comfortable ride overall. Plus it has a mode called "comfort" mode which is prettu sweet. Makes it feel very responsive to the turn
It's crazy because the RT only became slow when they made the RT scatpack. the RT was the original. even when they made the SRT8 people still was on the RT. if they never made their RT scatpack people still would be on the RT because it's the second highest to the SRT8. you were still looked at as a big dog a big man if you had the RT.
@@JVeleta11 it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 if you know anything about cars it depends on a lot of factors weight horsepower and torque the RT has one thing going against the car it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 that's true I think my whole point is I want people to understand it's not really the horsepower it's the talk the horsepower is just to get you going the for example did you see Dodge when they reveal they little compact car it has 260 some horsepower but 380 torque that is V8 torque the talk almost what matters
The RT is very nice. WOW!!
I’m new to the muscle car scene your review on this car made me go to the dodge dealership and order one exactly like this as it is my dream car. But man I got to wait since it’s coming from that factory
I’m a salesman for Kia and I have owned a 2016 rt and 2018 rt and I love and will always love my rts but man that stinger will put some work on them haha
Idk if future Charger redesign would look better than the current Charger coz the current one looks gorgeous already
True.
I like the Kia Stinger GT more
It is a great car for sure!
Whatever floats your boat
Tyrique Ellison that car is ass and has problems
I agree more practical, looks better in my opinion and is faster
I stick with the 5.7 and if I upgrade will be the 392 before they gone.
Love my dinosaur.
I wished they offered a full leather interior on this trim.
I had full leather on my previous charger RT it’s a nightmare during the summer I’m from California and it gets hot out here during the summer not a good combination with full leather seats
@@josejr.7683 I've had full leather interiors. Still prefer them, even in Nevada
As much as I love chargers and I absolutely love them I hate to say this but if I had to buy between the 2 it would be without hesitation a Stinger GT all blackout to hide the stupid fake vents. The Stinger just gives you more for the money and backed up by a good warranty 👍🏾
I commute 80 miles a day. Dont want to buy a Camry. Even though the 2025 Camry look pretty good but still boring. However the Charger RT seems like a reliable, comfortable, and also fun daily car.
R/T Baby!!! 🤙
Let's do this!
Stinger Gt over this prehistoric boat .Stinger is faster handles better brakes better. The interior on the stinger is light years better than this cheap fleet car style plastic interior. There is no comparison whatsoever.
It is dated for sure!
Thanks Joe and Lori…….great review and comparison. I’m thinking charger is just raw power vs stinger maybe a little more refined …….but I’ve never driven either one. Just a guess from me ! That blue looks great in the sun 🌞
Drive drive drive, always test drive.
Don’t settle for anything but the Widebody !
It all depends what someone wants and needs, and can handle.
Charger is better with performance, Stinger on other hand might be great in performance not long ago earlier someone passed by my street in one going fast so a fast car Charger is quicker.
I might hurry up and buy this car now Joe.
This is such a great comparison. I was cross shopping a Stinger GT2 versus a Chrysler 300S (5.7L V8, essentially the same as the Charger) and I couldn't decide. I loved the freshness and tech of the Stinger, and its TTV6 is definitely gutsty as hell. But the 300 just had that classic swagger, NA V8 and that solid, heavy feel. Ended up going with the 300 and have no regrets!
😭 I wish I knew you to persuade you otherwise. 😭 The stinger is solo much more fun to drive. Did you even test drive the stinger?
@@pattisonvidal3909 test drove the Stinger three times. No doubt more fun on a twisty road, but there's just something about that NA dinosaur of a V8
@@LovepreetAujla Did you test drive the GT? Because it's also more fun in a straight line 🤷🏿♂️ However, I'm not trying to bring down your choice. You did due diligence and test drive both so I am out of place to second guess your decision. Enjoy your car to the fullest man.
@@pattisonvidal3909 yeah bro drove the GT2, actually went to a track event for it as well. But appreciate it! To each his own!
Really love this blue on it
It is a great color!
Terrific review, thank you. My choice? *CHARGER R/T!*
If you get a chance, could you review a G37 Coupe? Love your reviews.🔥
Joe,
Great video! As an all around daily driver, which would you choose...and why. A Dodge Charge R/T or a Mustang Ecoboost? I am weighing the "Pros and Cons" of both to try to decide. I know you have "lots of sear time in both." Any advice and/or assistance you may provide is appreciated. Thank you!
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. These cars are great.
I’ll take the Charger because of the V8 rumble.
A Twinkie Consolation Prize. Who knew? Knowing is half the battle! Thanks, Raiti!
Great presentation and video work yet again. Thanks!
The r/t having small brakes and a big powerful motor is a bad combination but the Twinkies and liquorice would be good while waiting for the tow truck.
Since V8’s are getting discontinued, will they still be making parts for them to make them repairable in the future?
American muscle ALL DAY!!!! ESPECIALLY a Mopar outdated design or not!!! Bang for your buck far as horsepower!!!
Plus tons of space!
This is my dream car maybe eventually get a Daytona in life later but soon around 21 or 22 imma get one