@@Arturito2017 okay you take the Challenger and I'll take the faster car all day long! In fact I have 3 different V6 cars that whoop the shit out of your so called "sounds good Challenger" 🤣🤣🤣
@Misfit 3.8 Turbo 6 GN, Twin Turbo 3.3 Stinger and Supercharged 3.8 Regal better bring your lunch with all 3! And my tow vehicle is a V8! Y'all enjoy the sound while I blow your doors off.... Princess!
The R/T doesn’t get enough love. Although it’s the lowest power V8 dodge offers it’s still a great package. Dodge makes such crazy hp engines that’s the 5.7 slides under the radar
The problem is that it’s so dated that’s there’s no reason to buy new because the older ones are exactly the same because it’s dated, just buy use and save money
Stinger Gt over this prehistoric boat .Stinger is faster handles better brakes better. The interior on the stinger is light years better than this cheap fleet car style plastic interior. There is no comparison whatsoever.
I have a 392 Challenger and the 5.7 Charger. They are both great in their own way. The 392 is fun for cruising around, especially with a stick, but it guzzles the premium fuel like crazy. For every day use the 5.7 on regular fuel has been great. I often get mileage in the high 20s and sometimes in the low 30s on highway runs. We are not in the 70s any more. Many higher tech lighter cars will blow the doors off these, so you need to enjoy the nostalgia and unique attributes of a V8 as your reason for choosing Mopars. My 15 and 16 have been trouble free and easy and affordable to maintain. I have remained impressed with the value of these cars when you consider all the features that are included…..or at least for what I paid back in 15 and 16 lol.
I think the R/T is the sweet spot in the Charger lineup. The price is more affordable, and the performance is still high enough to get your adrenaline pumping. I rent R/Ts from my local car rental company, and they blow me away every time. The engine doesn't overpower the grip. The rumble from the engine is nice, but on the highway I wish there was a way to turn it off so I can hear my music.
@@adamdiazzz the rumble from the engine is quite loud, even on the highway. It's a nice growl, but there is no "volume knob" to the engine unfortunately.
@@joefather2463 post 2015 r/t / scatpack dodges don't really depreciate that much since they're really sought after for most dodge buyers I noticed before the pandemic after the initial 1-2 years of depreciation their prices weren't dropping that much so rip, I was gonna get an older r/t but decided I want a lighter car so now I'm thinking about getting a c5 vette
@@Toymonkeyjr Theres a chance a new charger/challenger could release before I buy one maybe they will start fo go down a little after that. either way im willing to pay the little extra bit considering electric cars will likely be our only option fairly soon
@@joefather2463 Unless you live in cali 50% of car sales after 2035 is still going to be gas cars so while they're slowly being phased out they're not becoming obsolete and more efficient technology will come out in the future to make them more economical most likely, also regarding the new generation most likely going to be the 2024 model year if not delayed to 2025 but with covid and all that expect there to be low production numbers the first year so it could possibly be a while until we see significant price drops, we all can hope though. Also another reason why I think price drops are uncertain is with less and less gas performance cars being made especially rwd v8's I think for the enthusiast market their price with be pretty stable because the used market is gonna be what people are relying on in the future to get these old gems
Back when I had my 2019 5.7 challenger I was neck and neck with stingers at the drag strip. I was running 12.92-12.98 1/4 miles with just a upgraded rear tire to get me off the line and I would do consistent 4.5 0-60’s. I won most of the time by a narrow margin. Our ET’s were very similar usually only about a tenth or half a tenth difference. Overall, the v8 torque and sound is the way to go. Especially with how close they are in performance.
i personally love chargers as i’ve had one!! but tbh stinger is better all around, it’s one of the best sedan on the market if not the best. up for debate!
I love my 2020 charger rt. Recently did a mid muffler delete and the sound alone is enough to get it ! Still like the Kia too, but the charger was more for me
The new car "shortage" won't last forever. If you have dealers in your area jacking up prices just don't buy from them. Some customers have long memories.
Thank you again Joe & Lori for an awesome review, the charger model in general is growing in me. I was never an American Muscle, especially a MOPAR lover until a few months ago. I’m debating between this and a scat
Yet you'll still be trying to get off the line while I'm halfway down the 1/4 already...Dodge's are highly overrated, and this is coming from a Mopar guy who owns a Stinger lol
@@derekintrovert5619 only in v6 I’m fully aware of there line up stinger is v6 twin turbo the stinger is in the mid to high 4s when the rt 5.7 charger is in the mid to low 5 seconds
@@Benscarreviews you would've loved the one I traded in for my scat, front splitter, rear diffuser, corsa catback extreme, k&n intake and lowered an inch front and back
It's crazy because the RT only became slow when they made the RT scatpack. the RT was the original. even when they made the SRT8 people still was on the RT. if they never made their RT scatpack people still would be on the RT because it's the second highest to the SRT8. you were still looked at as a big dog a big man if you had the RT.
@@JVeleta11 if you know anything about cars it depends on a lot of factors weight horsepower and torque the RT has one thing going against the car it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 that's true I think my whole point is I want people to understand it's not really the horsepower it's the talk the horsepower is just to get you going the for example did you see Dodge when they reveal they little compact car it has 260 some horsepower but 380 torque that is V8 torque the talk almost what matters
Is it a better choice? NO, hell to the NO! I’d take a stinger over a 5.7 hemi sack of ticks any day! Kia stinger gt2 I’ll take over any newer 5.7, 6.4 hemi any day! Dodge is sh*t let’s be honest here the only good dodge product is the Cummins rams which aren’t any part of dodge any longer, the TRX, and the hellcat that is all, the scat packs are cool and nice but limited on power unfortunately, dodge warranty is basic and always a pain to get sh*t fixed it’s like pulling teeth at the steelership! Kia has a 10 year 100k warranty and I’ve never had an issue with warranty and pulling teeth when it comes to Kia they are amazing in almost every way I have been to both sides many times over and I’d choose Kia over a dodge any day unless it’s a hellcat, a TRX or a trackhawk which is jeep but still part of the dodge fam, Chryslers are all sh*t so don’t buy one lol been there too and regretted it and still regret it! Don’t buy a dodge charger unless it’s a hellcat! I have a Daytona 392 and wish I would have got the hellcat, scats aren’t worth it and that means the 5.7’s are definitely not worth it! Do your research and believe in people who have been there countless times!
I had this exact decision between Charger R/T and a Stinger! Coming from a Challenger, the Charger was an obvious choice but the Stinger seemed like a great alternative. But once I test drove both, the Charger probably fit my style of ride the best. Thanks Joe for this solid rundown for everyone considering both!
It's just that other car manufacturers are making cars that put out more horsepower than the RT. Yes Dodge do need to bump the horsepower up in the RT. At least 400 or 415 horsepower.
I love my Dodge Charger SXT AWD Blacktop package!!! Bought it brand new last year and the 2021 are still identical!!! I get so many compliments and smiles because I have Go Mango colour!!!
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I was in this very predicament about a year ago having to decide between a scat pack charger and a Stinger GT it’s tough. Overall best bang for your buck I have to say the Stinger Gt wins every time. The Stinger GT maybe not have the power of a scat pack or the obnoxious v8 rumble so many of us have to come to love…..but in the end the performance along with the styling and reliability of the Stinger make the Stinger the best choice. I still would absolutely love to have a scatty but reliability is more important right now to me.
Joe, I’m looking at the Scat Pack. I’ve seen your reviews on them. The R/T is nice to but it seems like the 6.4 has more torque. You’ve driven both. Your opinion?
My dad had a 6.1 and a 6.4 Charger, and I have a 5.7 Challenger RT. IMO it depends on what you're' doing with the car, if you're storing it, budget, and options. 6.4 is a monster, limited modability. Can get the widebody option with 305 tires for better traction, which you will need. Super low ground clearance, roughly 3 to 4 inches if I recall correctly. Requires premium fuel, stiffer ride than the 5.7, 0-60mh in 4.2 seconds. The 5.7 still sounds great, still has plenty of pull. Does not require premium fuel unless you get a 6 speed. Can be optioned to have similar performance equipment as the scat, although you can't get 6 piston brembos, only the 4 piston Loads of options and can be up to roughly 600RWHP safely, if you want to do a build. 0-60mph in 5.1 seconds. I loved the 6.4 my dad had, it was incredibly fast and so much fun. My 5.7 is still an amazing ride, very comfortable and plenty of power. I don't race and daily drive my RT thru winters as well. You can do it with a 6.4 but the ground clearance might be an issue. Hope that helps! the 6.4 has 480hp and 470lbs torque. the 5.7 has 370hp and 395lbs torque. (For the Charger, slightly lower than the Challenger with the same powerplants)
I loved my 15 Challenger RT … I mean I really loved!!! Never thought I’d trade it for a KIA STINGER GT2😱😱😱… I miss the V8 rumble I’m a V8 guy. But I needed to go 4dr and the prices for these Dodges in 2021, no im not doing not when I know they’re inflated prices it’s Insane!!! I love my Kia but if you need a car to seat more than 4 get the Charger!!! The stinger wins in day to day chill riding but has the sport mode that lets you GOOO! The stinger absolutely kills the Dodge in tuning. I mean a chip($1100) and some intakes and I’m hanging with 392s and actually beating them off the jump. Now the Dodge is probably the car ya pass down to your kids tho. I’ll own another when I’m ready for a Hellcat
This is coming from a Mopar guy: I had a 2021 RT Daytona on order, and cancelled it and got a 2022 Stinger GT Elite 3.3L AWD instead...and can tell you the Stinger destroys the RT, in looks, value and performance. Dodge's interior is dated as hell; the Stinger is a mix of BMW+Audi+Mercedes for the interior. The exterior gets me mistaken for a Maserati a lot. 8.4" screen vs 10.5", Brembo's vs not, flat bottom steering wheel vs not, shitty acceleration vs...not lol. Get a Stinger and you won't be disappointed
Highly disagree. I’ve driven both (among others) and went with the Stinger for obvious reasons. The ONLY thing a charger has going for it is the V8 sound and the R/T’s sound is even subpar compared to even a Scatpack. But compare them as cars in general, Stinger wins hands down in looks, speed, acceleration, handling, practicality, luxury. Plus with a modified exhaust, the Stinger sounds great. Stinger will also last a heck of a lot longer than any Charger as well. There is almost no turbo lag so idk what that’s about and “light steering”? try taking the car out of Eco and Comfort mode then get back to us. I used to not care for Kia until i drove the Stinger. Best car purchase i’ve ever made “so far”.
@@ejmich8136 About a second difference between them. I bought my RT because I got a great deal on it used. No way I would pay the 43k sticker price it was new. Between the GT and Scat Pack I would probably go with the Dodge but GT and RT isn't even a race until Dodge either adds power to the 5.7 or introduces some forced induction or electrification.
I’ll take a V-8 over a 6 cylinder turbo anytime. This car looks like a sports sedan when compared to a Stinger. My first new car was a 1970 Charger and I loved that car. Of course this is my opinion and some will go with the Stinger but for my money I’m a Charger guy.
I’d say the RT and the stinger are pretty neck to neck if I’m being honest 🤔 just a few subtle differences here and there but the deciding factor for me has got to be the reliability in Kia’s these days so I would personally choose the stinger 😮💨
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 uh no? Read the reliability ratings from JD power and KBB, Kia comes out on top. I wish that was true tho cuz i personally prefer the v8 but I’d rather just go with the more reliable option instead
Not neck to neck at all. The Kia Stinger Gt has the Twin-turbo & awd advantage. 376lbs of torque. The kia will smoke it everytime as that turbo boosts, however a dodge with a turbo would easily keep up
Charger is better with performance, Stinger on other hand might be great in performance not long ago earlier someone passed by my street in one going fast so a fast car Charger is quicker.
If there’s 1 plus that the Kia Stinger has over the Challenge is you can get the Stinger in AWD. For those where climate is an issue it good to have an AWD vehicle. However when it comes down to it, I would still take a Scatpack, Hellcat over the 5.7 hemi.
Joe, Thanks for the honest and through review of the Dodge Charger RT; I watched it several times! I was deliberating between a 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HPP and a Dodge Charger RT or Scat Pack. I watched multiple videos on each car, by different You Tube reviewers, before making my final decision. Your reviews on each car were the most thorough and detail oriented. I decided on a 2023 Dodge Charger, in the RT trim. Yes, the Scat Pack...and the Mustang Ecoboost HPP, are faster in stock form. But, as you said in your Charger RT video, the RT is a better "Daily Driver" than the Scat Pack (and probably better than the Mustang too), which is exactly what I want. A sedan is more practical for me as an everyday driver than the Mustang Ecoboost HPP...even though the RT's gas mileage will be worse than the Mustang and slower than both the Mustang and the Scat Pack. I went back-and-forth between the RT and Scat Pack; ultimately, I decided the cost of the extra HP and torque of the Scat Pack did not merit the additional cost ($7K in my Scat Pack build), due to the lack of opportunity to utilize the Scat Pack's extra HP and torque as a daily driver and the fact I have no intentions of racing the car or taking the car to a track. I ordered a 2023 Dodge Charger RT in B5 Blue with the Plus Group, Technology Package, and the Performance Handling Group; the only options I wished I could have added as factory options are a limited slip 3:09 rear end differential and 275 MM tires all around. I will add both of these options as after market additions to my RT for at/about $3K, after the initial break in period of my RT is completed and the RT will be, in my opinion, a near perfect daily driver. Again, thanks for the great review of the Charger RT; your honest analysis of the car's ability to perform as a great daily driver with classic muscle car sound and enough power to have "spirited fun" in a safe manner, while not resulting in the car's rear end "wagging all over the place like a dog" in a dangerous manner, were excellent points and much appreciated. I can't wait to pick up my B5 Blue RT in a few months! :)
Any Mopar products with the 5.7 especially a Charger or Challenger is ABSOLUTELY honorable! 370 horsepower is fit for LITERALLY any day. Daily driver for the weekdays, and then track/fun car on the weekends. I'm glad that people along with Dodge thought of that, and thank you for making this video!
Anybody pick a 5.7 over a Stinger is the reason why im making money with my Stinger GT1 at the track molly whooping yall 5.7 and I was stock now im over 500hp im molly wooping yall 6.2l scats 🥴😂💀 Stinger for the win
With the Stinger, one has a stressed, turbocharged V6 versus a loping, easy going V8 in the Charger with NO TURBOS to replace. The V8 should last longer and have better maintenance. Finally, there is LESS TO BEEAK, which is always a plus, because there are no twin turbos, no twin intercoolers, and none of the associated piping to break or leak. You also get the V8 SOUND, versus a V6 "sound" in the Stinger. For my HARD EARNED money, it's Charger R/T all the way!!!!!!
I commute 80 miles a day. Dont want to buy a Camry. Even though the 2025 Camry look pretty good but still boring. However the Charger RT seems like a reliable, comfortable, and also fun daily car.
Nice review. I think this would suffice for me. But I know the 485hp scat pack would make me feel 16 again with my license. Hands down get the V8, over a stinger.
I went with the stinger personally. It was just a more comfortable ride overall. Plus it has a mode called "comfort" mode which is prettu sweet. Makes it feel very responsive to the turn
Hey Joe I love the dodge charger but maybe the hellcat would be a better buy in my opinion. P.S. which one would you buy the charger or the challenger hellcat widebody.
I WILL SAY THIS TO THOSE THAT WANT THE R/T . In the summertime , if you have the sunroof please be careful . That screen will get hot asf and so hot that the glue will start to loose its grip and drip down the screen . Doing apple-car play will also heat up the screen as well . I have a 2014 AWD r/t and 2017 r/t , those screens need to be took extra care of !
The r/t having small brakes and a big powerful motor is a bad combination but the Twinkies and liquorice would be good while waiting for the tow truck.
i love charger designe but 5,7 v8 only 375 is not good i think stinger motor is batter v6 twin turbo and stinger more quality inside designe more confy
I recent picked up a GT Limited Stinger (AWD). I was in the market for a 4 door car that can be fun, but also have room for the family. The warante is amazing. You can go awd or rwd. Interior is great, cheap in some ways but still good. Very uncommon car that gets attention. Brembos. Its is a new car and has its flaws like the launch control (doesnt build boost for a sports car??) But a breaksnip fixes it easy. Really easy to mod and unmod to do dealership stuff and make 500 to the wheels.
I had full leather on my previous charger RT it’s a nightmare during the summer I’m from California and it gets hot out here during the summer not a good combination with full leather seats
The 5.7 engine is such a nice option. It has potential to be upgraded down the line but has enough performance to keep u happy and that v8 sound 💯
I'm not totally sure that this 5.7 sounds better than the Stinger GT 🤷🏿♂️
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The Stinger GT kicks the shit out of a 5.7 Hemi period!
@@regalgn1 yeah but it sounds like shit😂. Like I said I’ll still take the challenger all day.
@@Arturito2017 okay you take the Challenger and I'll take the faster car all day long!
In fact I have
3 different V6 cars that whoop the shit out of your so called "sounds good Challenger" 🤣🤣🤣
@Misfit 3.8 Turbo 6 GN, Twin Turbo 3.3 Stinger and Supercharged 3.8 Regal better bring your lunch with all 3! And my tow vehicle is a V8!
Y'all enjoy the sound while I blow your doors off.... Princess!
The R/T doesn’t get enough love. Although it’s the lowest power V8 dodge offers it’s still a great package. Dodge makes such crazy hp engines that’s the 5.7 slides under the radar
the 2011 r/t uses the same engine and makes the same horsepower figure as the 2022. difference is the 2011 is 20k cheaper
@@VeryRegularGuy yeah but them joints ugly af tho 🤣
@@VeryRegularGuy they ugly u gotta put in at least 5kto make it look good and u still got the 5 speed
@@just_a5.7 youd rather pay 40k+ for an ancient motor thats more or less been around since 2006? go ahead
@@VeryRegularGuy lol I payed 25k for my 2019 charger rt in April 2020
Even though the interior of the charger is dated I gotta go with a wonderful NA v8. No replacement for displacement
I like the way that you think!
Nicely said
Just buy the 2019 , cuz it the same with this one, save more money
The problem is that it’s so dated that’s there’s no reason to buy new because the older ones are exactly the same because it’s dated, just buy use and save money
@@paladin3116 right , I don't see no reason to buy new one
Chargers and Challengers reviews and re-overview videos are amazing! Halloween treats going good! 👻
I am so glad I can bring this teat to you on Halloween!
Stinger Gt over this prehistoric boat .Stinger is faster handles better brakes better. The interior on the stinger is light years better than this cheap fleet car style plastic interior. There is no comparison whatsoever.
It is dated for sure!
I have a 392 Challenger and the 5.7 Charger. They are both great in their own way. The 392 is fun for cruising around, especially with a stick, but it guzzles the premium fuel like crazy. For every day use the 5.7 on regular fuel has been great. I often get mileage in the high 20s and sometimes in the low 30s on highway runs. We are not in the 70s any more. Many higher tech lighter cars will blow the doors off these, so you need to enjoy the nostalgia and unique attributes of a V8 as your reason for choosing Mopars. My 15 and 16 have been trouble free and easy and affordable to maintain. I have remained impressed with the value of these cars when you consider all the features that are included…..or at least for what I paid back in 15 and 16 lol.
Want a land line rocket flashy car 🚘 without spending too much funds.
Would recommend the lexus gsx
You put regular in your 5.7 ?
Passes everything but a gas station. lol
Great work Joe and Lori.
You better believe it!
Facts
I think the R/T is the sweet spot in the Charger lineup. The price is more affordable, and the performance is still high enough to get your adrenaline pumping. I rent R/Ts from my local car rental company, and they blow me away every time. The engine doesn't overpower the grip. The rumble from the engine is nice, but on the highway I wish there was a way to turn it off so I can hear my music.
Try this : the volume knob
@@adamdiazzz the rumble from the engine is quite loud, even on the highway. It's a nice growl, but there is no "volume knob" to the engine unfortunately.
@@stevenreichertart 😂
@@stevenreichertart 😭😂😂😂😂
You better get Aux then boy
Miss the days of the scat packs being $35-40k now the RT costs $45k 😂
Got my Scat brand new for $34k lol
@@Toymonkeyjr im saving up to get an rt in 2 years, really hoping it goes down a good bit
@@joefather2463 post 2015 r/t / scatpack dodges don't really depreciate that much since they're really sought after for most dodge buyers I noticed before the pandemic after the initial 1-2 years of depreciation their prices weren't dropping that much so rip, I was gonna get an older r/t but decided I want a lighter car so now I'm thinking about getting a c5 vette
@@Toymonkeyjr Theres a chance a new charger/challenger could release before I buy one maybe they will start fo go down a little after that. either way im willing to pay the little extra bit considering electric cars will likely be our only option fairly soon
@@joefather2463 Unless you live in cali 50% of car sales after 2035 is still going to be gas cars so while they're slowly being phased out they're not becoming obsolete and more efficient technology will come out in the future to make them more economical most likely, also regarding the new generation most likely going to be the 2024 model year if not delayed to 2025 but with covid and all that expect there to be low production numbers the first year so it could possibly be a while until we see significant price drops, we all can hope though. Also another reason why I think price drops are uncertain is with less and less gas performance cars being made especially rwd v8's I think for the enthusiast market their price with be pretty stable because the used market is gonna be what people are relying on in the future to get these old gems
Me laughing my butt off because I bought my 2019 scat pack 392 loaded to the gills for $44k. Holy moly prices are insane!!
Holy cow where’d you get it for so cheap?!
They start at 48k here in Cali but they are super marked up.
Lmao that's not cheap
@@albertosanchez8645 lol ikr 🤣🤣🤣
That v8 rumble gets me everytime! Love charger's.
Back when I had my 2019 5.7 challenger I was neck and neck with stingers at the drag strip. I was running 12.92-12.98 1/4 miles with just a upgraded rear tire to get me off the line and I would do consistent 4.5 0-60’s. I won most of the time by a narrow margin. Our ET’s were very similar usually only about a tenth or half a tenth difference. Overall, the v8 torque and sound is the way to go. Especially with how close they are in performance.
yeah no.
i personally love chargers as i’ve had one!! but tbh stinger is better all around, it’s one of the best sedan on the market if not the best. up for debate!
i concur
its also faster.The charger R/t is kind of slow sadly.
@@michaeldennis3028 sick color on your Stinger! 🤩 It would look so much better with a scorpion wing (black)
@@psw3041 oh!! dont give me ideas 😂😂
If it was a 6.4 for this price it would compete but the Stinger GT is just better than the 5.7
It is cooler and less expensive
This is very true!
And not getting discontinued.
@@TheBreakfastLover not yet....
This is the Swiss Army knife in the Charger lineup, IMO. Could easily see myself daily driving this & occasionally taking this to autocross.
You are so very right about that Daryl!
Correct, the RT is the charger I might buy.
I love my 2020 charger rt. Recently did a mid muffler delete and the sound alone is enough to get it ! Still like the Kia too, but the charger was more for me
My 2015 Charger Rallye has been very reliable. I am entering it into my local car show next August. Torred Red.
Yes I had v6' 2015 rally edition seat warmers self ignition starter all black 🖤 tinted windows AWD. It was nice had it in 2019 before it got repoed
PURSUIT HEMI 5.7 AWD didn’t pay the car note lol
I like the Kia Stinger GT more
It is a great car for sure!
Whatever floats your boat
Tyrique Ellison that car is ass and has problems
I agree more practical, looks better in my opinion and is faster
Always enjoy your unique review of cars. Keep going 💪
The Dodge looks great in that blue 🏁
That really means the world! Thank you for letting me share my car passion with you!
Mmmmm blue is so pretty!!!! Thank you Joe Lori!!!!!
I really love this color for sure!
Understood the reference about the inch. Man... my local dealerships still jacking up the prices, this or a Challenger but need to be V8.
I totally feel your pain Carlos! Thanks for watching!
I go out of state
The new car "shortage" won't last forever. If you have dealers in your area jacking up prices just don't buy from them. Some customers have long memories.
Stealerships
My local dealer in Illinois is asking sticker for their scats. One is 45k with a stick. Just keep looking for an honest dealer.
Thank you again Joe & Lori for an awesome review, the charger model in general is growing in me. I was never an American Muscle, especially a MOPAR lover until a few months ago. I’m debating between this and a scat
Scat over this man
Dodge vs Kia.....DODGE, The look of the front end is killer and enough alone to make the Charger the winner. Thanks Joe and Lori.
You make a very good point!
Yet you'll still be trying to get off the line while I'm halfway down the 1/4 already...Dodge's are highly overrated, and this is coming from a Mopar guy who owns a Stinger lol
I'd take a stinger Gt over this.
@@reloadingdontshoot1 100% correct. Stinger GT over charger R/T anyday. 👌🏿💯
What grown man brags about owning a Kia??😆 Mopars look and sound 1000 times better.
CHARGER OR STINGERS
NO
BUY TOYOTA CAMRY TRD
Uhhh Lol no
Charger sounds great the the stringer is faster, accelerates harder and u can get it in Awd with the performance engine.
U can get AWD In The Charger visit their website
@@derekintrovert5619 Only as V6, no?
@@derekintrovert5619 only in v6 I’m fully aware of there line up stinger is v6 twin turbo the stinger is in the mid to high 4s when the rt 5.7 charger is in the mid to low 5 seconds
save the sedans, save the chargers! looks good, this car has aged well and good power!!, thanks Joe
Have had my eyes on this beast for a while!
It is a ton of car for the money!
@@RaitisRides perfect for a young adult who loves mopar!
@@Benscarreviews Or someone who wants a good V8 daily.
@@RaitisRides I check those boxes off!
@@Benscarreviews you would've loved the one I traded in for my scat, front splitter, rear diffuser, corsa catback extreme, k&n intake and lowered an inch front and back
I have a the hellraisen of that exact one! And I LOVE IT! fun to drive.
Thanks for sharing that Brian!
Yes I love my daily RT 🔥
I gotta get me a r/t
It's crazy because the RT only became slow when they made the RT scatpack. the RT was the original. even when they made the SRT8 people still was on the RT. if they never made their RT scatpack people still would be on the RT because it's the second highest to the SRT8. you were still looked at as a big dog a big man if you had the RT.
@@JVeleta11 it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 if you know anything about cars it depends on a lot of factors weight horsepower and torque the RT has one thing going against the car it's heavy
@@JVeleta11 that's true I think my whole point is I want people to understand it's not really the horsepower it's the talk the horsepower is just to get you going the for example did you see Dodge when they reveal they little compact car it has 260 some horsepower but 380 torque that is V8 torque the talk almost what matters
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Is it a better choice? NO, hell to the NO! I’d take a stinger over a 5.7 hemi sack of ticks any day! Kia stinger gt2 I’ll take over any newer 5.7, 6.4 hemi any day! Dodge is sh*t let’s be honest here the only good dodge product is the Cummins rams which aren’t any part of dodge any longer, the TRX, and the hellcat that is all, the scat packs are cool and nice but limited on power unfortunately, dodge warranty is basic and always a pain to get sh*t fixed it’s like pulling teeth at the steelership! Kia has a 10 year 100k warranty and I’ve never had an issue with warranty and pulling teeth when it comes to Kia they are amazing in almost every way I have been to both sides many times over and I’d choose Kia over a dodge any day unless it’s a hellcat, a TRX or a trackhawk which is jeep but still part of the dodge fam, Chryslers are all sh*t so don’t buy one lol been there too and regretted it and still regret it! Don’t buy a dodge charger unless it’s a hellcat! I have a Daytona 392 and wish I would have got the hellcat, scats aren’t worth it and that means the 5.7’s are definitely not worth it! Do your research and believe in people who have been there countless times!
I had this exact decision between Charger R/T and a Stinger! Coming from a Challenger, the Charger was an obvious choice but the Stinger seemed like a great alternative. But once I test drove both, the Charger probably fit my style of ride the best. Thanks Joe for this solid rundown for everyone considering both!
The kia stinger gt Scorpion coming soon is even better than the original stinger gt though, obviously costs even more funds
once I test drove both, Stinger is way.... better, except the sound
@@lucasfu580 I love both cars! I can’t find a Stinger at all. So it’s going to be the 2022 Charger R/T
It's just that other car manufacturers are making cars that put out more horsepower than the RT. Yes Dodge do need to bump the horsepower up in the RT. At least 400 or 415 horsepower.
Then they would have to bump up the scats to 585 horsepower
0-60 in 5.1 the slowest v8 sedan on the market a type r is faster with less than half the engine
It’s quick not fast that’s what R/T’s are but they are not slow even for a V8 sedan plus they’re heavy asf
Having owned a R/T a SRT8 and a stinger gt. The stinger is the better everyday car vs the SRT8. And is better than the r/t all around
Thanks William for that great input from your experience!
I figured I seen on UA-cam channel Stinger dust mustang GT 3-4 times
@@RA-ui8yw Stinger is more than an average car it's a beast no matter only difference is it's Korean made and it's still new to the game
@@RA-ui8yw But I'm still a dodge guy just my preference the dangerous winters up here is too long
@@pursuithemi5.7awd81 What is wrong with Korean made nowadays? They are high on the reliability list. Your TV and phone might be Korean made.
I love my Dodge Charger SXT AWD Blacktop package!!! Bought it brand new last year and the 2021 are still identical!!! I get so many compliments and smiles because I have Go Mango colour!!!
That is awesome congrats!
About 90% of these comments cant afford either lmao
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That 2021 Dodge Charger RT is definitely a good choice to drive. And I like that Indigo Blue color very nice car.
Yeah that blue is 🔥
I was in this very predicament about a year ago having to decide between a scat pack charger and a Stinger GT it’s tough. Overall best bang for your buck I have to say the Stinger Gt wins every time. The Stinger GT maybe not have the power of a scat pack or the obnoxious v8 rumble so many of us have to come to love…..but in the end the performance along with the styling and reliability of the Stinger make the Stinger the best choice. I still would absolutely love to have a scatty but reliability is more important right now to me.
You realize it's a kia as well.... reliability isn't their best suit even if they make better cars now
@@nismoaltima1326 Kia was ranked 2nd for reliability 2 years in a row
@@robertmcgee3616 proof??? I highly doubt it's out performing toyota and lexus
STI is a good alternative. Faster 0-60 time and manual trans.
I just ate one of those stinger GTs for lunch with my fbo 2014 RT Charger Max, I have 426 to the wheel, running with the SKATs ...
R/T has way more power than I’d ever need. Perfect for me. I’m not track racing or anything. That’s just me though. Love the car
Nothing wrong with that!
Joe, I’m looking at the Scat Pack. I’ve seen your reviews on them. The R/T is nice to but it seems like the 6.4 has more torque. You’ve driven both. Your opinion?
My dad had a 6.1 and a 6.4 Charger, and I have a 5.7 Challenger RT. IMO it depends on what you're' doing with the car, if you're storing it, budget, and options. 6.4 is a monster, limited modability. Can get the widebody option with 305 tires for better traction, which you will need. Super low ground clearance, roughly 3 to 4 inches if I recall correctly. Requires premium fuel, stiffer ride than the 5.7, 0-60mh in 4.2 seconds.
The 5.7 still sounds great, still has plenty of pull. Does not require premium fuel unless you get a 6 speed. Can be optioned to have similar performance equipment as the scat, although you can't get 6 piston brembos, only the 4 piston Loads of options and can be up to roughly 600RWHP safely, if you want to do a build. 0-60mph in 5.1 seconds.
I loved the 6.4 my dad had, it was incredibly fast and so much fun. My 5.7 is still an amazing ride, very comfortable and plenty of power. I don't race and daily drive my RT thru winters as well. You can do it with a 6.4 but the ground clearance might be an issue.
Hope that helps!
the 6.4 has 480hp and 470lbs torque. the 5.7 has 370hp and 395lbs torque. (For the Charger, slightly lower than the Challenger with the same powerplants)
@@jordancameron2482 thank you! That helps a lot!
If you can afford the 392 you'll be glad you did
@@jordancameron2482 If you can afford the 6.4L don't buy the 5.7L 👌🏿
Don't do it
I miss the R/T Road and Track I had for ten years. Thanks for sharing the Mopar muscle Joe. Nice job and Lori as well!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I loved my 15 Challenger RT … I mean I really loved!!! Never thought I’d trade it for a KIA STINGER GT2😱😱😱… I miss the V8 rumble I’m a V8 guy. But I needed to go 4dr and the prices for these Dodges in 2021, no im not doing not when I know they’re inflated prices it’s Insane!!! I love my Kia but if you need a car to seat more than 4 get the Charger!!! The stinger wins in day to day chill riding but has the sport mode that lets you GOOO! The stinger absolutely kills the Dodge in tuning. I mean a chip($1100) and some intakes and I’m hanging with 392s and actually beating them off the jump. Now the Dodge is probably the car ya pass down to your kids tho. I’ll own another when I’m ready for a Hellcat
Exactly man. Perfect opinion. 👌🏿
This is coming from a Mopar guy: I had a 2021 RT Daytona on order, and cancelled it and got a 2022 Stinger GT Elite 3.3L AWD instead...and can tell you the Stinger destroys the RT, in looks, value and performance. Dodge's interior is dated as hell; the Stinger is a mix of BMW+Audi+Mercedes for the interior. The exterior gets me mistaken for a Maserati a lot. 8.4" screen vs 10.5", Brembo's vs not, flat bottom steering wheel vs not, shitty acceleration vs...not lol. Get a Stinger and you won't be disappointed
Agreed plus the 100k/10 year warranty you can’t beat!
I think the opposite. Can't compare to a v8 rumble. The speed is negligent. Stingers have really bad turbo lag and the steering is to light.
Highly disagree. I’ve driven both (among others) and went with the Stinger for obvious reasons.
The ONLY thing a charger has going for it is the V8 sound and the R/T’s sound is even subpar compared to even a Scatpack.
But compare them as cars in general, Stinger wins hands down in looks, speed, acceleration, handling, practicality, luxury.
Plus with a modified exhaust, the Stinger sounds great. Stinger will also last a heck of a lot longer than any Charger as well.
There is almost no turbo lag so idk what that’s about and “light steering”? try taking the car out of Eco and Comfort mode then get back to us.
I used to not care for Kia until i drove the Stinger. Best car purchase i’ve ever made “so far”.
@@ejmich8136 you’ve obviously never drove a stinger lol…
@@ejmich8136 About a second difference between them. I bought my RT because I got a great deal on it used. No way I would pay the 43k sticker price it was new. Between the GT and Scat Pack I would probably go with the Dodge but GT and RT isn't even a race until Dodge either adds power to the 5.7 or introduces some forced induction or electrification.
American muscle ALL DAY!!!! ESPECIALLY a Mopar outdated design or not!!! Bang for your buck far as horsepower!!!
Plus tons of space!
My vote is for the Stinger GT. It’s good that we have choices. I notice most of the comments are from diehard dodge, Chrysler, fans. To each his own.
Stinger GT RWD for me too bro 🙋🏿♂️
I’ll take a V-8 over a 6 cylinder turbo anytime. This car looks like a sports sedan when compared to a Stinger. My first new car was a 1970 Charger and I loved that car. Of course this is my opinion and some will go with the Stinger but for my money I’m a Charger guy.
Agreed
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45k for a RT Charger Dodge is losing they mind
For that money , I getting the stinger. You got more for the money.
I agree I’m glad I got mine when it was 33k out the door
I agree with you Buddy, that engine cover leaves a lot to be desired. Come on Dodge, it's a Hemi, have some pride.
I’d say the RT and the stinger are pretty neck to neck if I’m being honest 🤔 just a few subtle differences here and there but the deciding factor for me has got to be the reliability in Kia’s these days so I would personally choose the stinger 😮💨
Dude Dodges are much more reliable than Kia's these days.
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 uh no? Read the reliability ratings from JD power and KBB, Kia comes out on top. I wish that was true tho cuz i personally prefer the v8 but I’d rather just go with the more reliable option instead
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 very wrong.
@@joshb6382 doesn’t JD power get paid to rank car companies high on lists like that ?
Not neck to neck at all. The Kia Stinger Gt has the Twin-turbo & awd advantage. 376lbs of torque. The kia will smoke it everytime as that turbo boosts, however a dodge with a turbo would easily keep up
Hi joe , how's it going ?
Hey there! I am doing great! I hope you are as well!
"I wanna spend 40 to 50 thousand dollars on a new car"
bro Im an engineer and got 15k max for a new car fym LMAO
Gotta find a better job
Charger is better with performance, Stinger on other hand might be great in performance not long ago earlier someone passed by my street in one going fast so a fast car Charger is quicker.
Man didn't have one negative thing to say about the car.
Difference between a car enthusiast and a salesman.
Optimism vs realism
To each his own
If there’s 1 plus that the Kia Stinger has over the Challenge is you can get the Stinger in AWD. For those where climate is an issue it good to have an AWD vehicle. However when it comes down to it, I would still take a Scatpack, Hellcat over the 5.7 hemi.
Joe,
Thanks for the honest and through review of the Dodge Charger RT; I watched it several times! I was deliberating between a 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HPP and a Dodge Charger RT or Scat Pack. I watched multiple videos on each car, by different You Tube reviewers, before making my final decision. Your reviews on each car were the most thorough and detail oriented.
I decided on a 2023 Dodge Charger, in the RT trim. Yes, the Scat Pack...and the Mustang Ecoboost HPP, are faster in stock form. But, as you said in your Charger RT video, the RT is a better "Daily Driver" than the Scat Pack (and probably better than the Mustang too), which is exactly what I want. A sedan is more practical for me as an everyday driver than the Mustang Ecoboost HPP...even though the RT's gas mileage will be worse than the Mustang and slower than both the Mustang and the Scat Pack. I went back-and-forth between the RT and Scat Pack; ultimately, I decided the cost of the extra HP and torque of the Scat Pack did not merit the additional cost ($7K in my Scat Pack build), due to the lack of opportunity to utilize the Scat Pack's extra HP and torque as a daily driver and the fact I have no intentions of racing the car or taking the car to a track.
I ordered a 2023 Dodge Charger RT in B5 Blue with the Plus Group, Technology Package, and the Performance Handling Group; the only options I wished I could have added as factory options are a limited slip 3:09 rear end differential and 275 MM tires all around. I will add both of these options as after market additions to my RT for at/about $3K, after the initial break in period of my RT is completed and the RT will be, in my opinion, a near perfect daily driver. Again, thanks for the great review of the Charger RT; your honest analysis of the car's ability to perform as a great daily driver with classic muscle car sound and enough power to have "spirited fun" in a safe manner, while not resulting in the car's rear end "wagging all over the place like a dog" in a dangerous manner, were excellent points and much appreciated. I can't wait to pick up my B5 Blue RT in a few months! :)
That is so awesome! I am so glad that I could help you find the right car for you! You are going to love her!
I might hurry up and buy this car now Joe.
Can you do a 2022 Kia Sportage? Also incredible videos ❤️❤️
It is coming soon!
Imo the most dope looking muscle sedan I’d go dodge!
Agreed
Overpriced fiat trash.
@@righteousone1 hater
@@righteousone1 it’s not a fiat 😑
Any Mopar products with the 5.7 especially a Charger or Challenger is ABSOLUTELY honorable! 370 horsepower is fit for LITERALLY any day. Daily driver for the weekdays, and then track/fun car on the weekends. I'm glad that people along with Dodge thought of that, and thank you for making this video!
My Dodge Charger Widebody same color...
Nicely done Colet!
The only way I'd buy a Charger is the widebody. Sick looking car!
Anybody pick a 5.7 over a Stinger is the reason why im making money with my Stinger GT1 at the track molly whooping yall 5.7 and I was stock now im over 500hp im molly wooping yall 6.2l scats 🥴😂💀 Stinger for the win
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. These cars are great.
RT.
I drove both Sunday 21 stinger was a beast 380 hp twin turbo v6
But the sound of the 22 rt 5.7 hemi it was bad ass and more interior room
I am so glad that you are loving this one.
Do a 2021 charger hellcat not a red eye
If you get a chance, could you review a G37 Coupe? Love your reviews.🔥
I’ll take the stinger. This is just a v8 boat. Sounds good but that’s about it
It really depends what you tastes are.
Same, Stinger is a far better, more modern vehicle. This thing is a heap of junk.
That mf sounds nice.
With the Stinger, one has a stressed, turbocharged V6 versus a loping, easy going V8 in the Charger with NO TURBOS to replace. The V8 should last longer and have better maintenance. Finally, there is LESS TO BEEAK, which is always a plus, because there are no twin turbos, no twin intercoolers, and none of the associated piping to break or leak. You also get the V8 SOUND, versus a V6 "sound" in the Stinger. For my HARD EARNED money, it's Charger R/T all the way!!!!!!
Comparing twin turbo v6 vs na v8 is crazy
That is a beautiful car and awesome sounding V8. This car is way better than a stinger gt.
I commute 80 miles a day. Dont want to buy a Camry. Even though the 2025 Camry look pretty good but still boring. However the Charger RT seems like a reliable, comfortable, and also fun daily car.
Nice review. I think this would suffice for me. But I know the 485hp scat pack would make me feel 16 again with my license. Hands down get the V8, over a stinger.
I went with the stinger personally. It was just a more comfortable ride overall. Plus it has a mode called "comfort" mode which is prettu sweet. Makes it feel very responsive to the turn
You get that sweet V8 sound minus the fear of going a bit too fast for comfort.
Hey Joe I love the dodge charger but maybe the hellcat would be a better buy in my opinion. P.S. which one would you buy the charger or the challenger hellcat widebody.
Me being close to Canada pursuit AWD but if I'm in Illinois Tennessee California I would definitely get a charger RWD
Not the RT but the scat pack, is better than the stinger
I stick with the 5.7 and if I upgrade will be the 392 before they gone.
Love my dinosaur.
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I like the Charger always have
You have great taste Bob!
I WILL SAY THIS TO THOSE THAT WANT THE R/T . In the summertime , if you have the sunroof please be careful . That screen will get hot asf and so hot that the glue will start to loose its grip and drip down the screen . Doing apple-car play will also heat up the screen as well . I have a 2014 AWD r/t and 2017 r/t , those screens need to be took extra care of !
I’ll take the stinger over a fiat magnum any day.
It is always nice to have choices!
Funny 1
Like for the airborne Twinkie.
Thanks man for letting me share some laughs with you!
40k to 50k for a RT??? Hell Naaw imma have to give that a big Zonk!!
Going off the title of the video, I think the Stinger GT is plenty faster but the Charger sounds better and is a tiny bit cheaper
You are 100% correct!
Hemi for me!
It is nice to have choices!
Terrific review, thank you. My choice? *CHARGER R/T!*
The r/t having small brakes and a big powerful motor is a bad combination but the Twinkies and liquorice would be good while waiting for the tow truck.
i love charger designe but 5,7 v8 only 375 is not good i think stinger motor is batter v6 twin turbo and stinger more quality inside designe more confy
I recent picked up a GT Limited Stinger (AWD). I was in the market for a 4 door car that can be fun, but also have room for the family. The warante is amazing. You can go awd or rwd. Interior is great, cheap in some ways but still good. Very uncommon car that gets attention. Brembos.
Its is a new car and has its flaws like the launch control (doesnt build boost for a sports car??) But a breaksnip fixes it easy. Really easy to mod and unmod to do dealership stuff and make 500 to the wheels.
"after you win a race, throw in the reverse and you can see the loser in your back-up camera" hahaha 😂
The RT is very nice. WOW!!
I wished they offered a full leather interior on this trim.
I had full leather on my previous charger RT it’s a nightmare during the summer I’m from California and it gets hot out here during the summer not a good combination with full leather seats
@@josejr.7683 I've had full leather interiors. Still prefer them, even in Nevada
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What happened to the review of Kia stinker LOL? I thought this was going to,be a comparison review?
It is at the end of this review brother!