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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2023
- Hikaru checks out best players over time.
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this is basically watching chess history as a marble race
Hikaru is so stupid. Ofcourse the graph will look like it does. Shall we measure their elo compared to other top players at the time, or shall we measure something else?
Hikaru wants to measure things in another way obviously.
What? @@scottwarren4998
calm down timmy damn. @@scottwarren4998
stupid maybe but not on a chess scale lol @@scottwarren4998
Ok do not EVER say that about one of the best chess players of all time. @@scottwarren4998
I think it’s really cool watching all the Magnus footage from over the years. Dudes just been such a titan in chess. Deservedly so.
Just wait till ‘drunk Magnus’ gets added to this poll..
@@LukeMakiidrunk Magnus is already there
I wonder what chess programs Magnus and Hikaru are using to beat the opponents?
@@tongobong1????
@@sakireren9310 sadly almost all the top chess players cheat. Kramnik is one of few that don't cheat.
It's amazing how good Karpov was. Even in the Kasparov era, he clearly was the second best player by a huge margin.
The russians dominated chess for a very long time. Nobody could've predicted Norway though...
Yeah if there was no Kasparov Karpov could have been number 2 from 73 to 97 (overtaken a couple of times for a short periods).
By a huge margin, not advantage
@@occultsymbols Thanks. I'm not a native English speaker. I've fixed the comment
Karpov was there for how long dude? Sick
Kramnik's quick rise to the top seems interesting.
Bro💀💀💀💀
Kramnik was the only one who reached Garry´s rating althought for a short time, maybe 6 or 7 months
Kramnik: Interesting
Hikaru: Interesting
Us: Interesting
Insane how strong karpov was! Super impressive how quickly Magnus showed up and took clear first, no one else was like that 🤔
Fischer: I simply do not exist. Almost 20 years to someone get his rating
🤔🤔@@MauricioRomanov
The mittens bot is based off of him, and he was an expert in all styles of chess. Says a lot lol.
I didn’t realise Fabiano was so close to overtaking Magnus several times!
During their World Championship match, Carlsen was 2835 and Fabi was 2832. Had Fabi won the match, he also would have overtaken Carlsen in the ratings.
It makes sense considering he drew Magnus in all 12 classical rounds of the World Chess Championship.
@countryman032 The world championship has 14 rounds, doesn't it?
@@nl3064 It was 12 at the time.
Karpov's late resurgence is wild
Idk about wild, but it's definitely very interesting. 🤔
Some people's brains actually get better with age
1:40 Mikhail Tal's quick rise and fall. 2700 to 2550 in a year. Insane.
6:45 The Covid flatline
Bear in mind the video starts after Tal’s strongest point. Tal was champion before Botvinnik’s second reign as champion, who reigned before Petrosian, who reigned before Spassky, who is the person that Fischer beat to get the title himself, where the video starts.
Yeah Tal was dying from cancer those years if i am not wrong, sooo yeah..
All those cigarrates got him at the end.
Nice to see Judit Polgar in the mix, starting at around 5:04.
The only girl in the top 10 ever, I think at number 8. What I think is a good way to see who was best is number years at top1× mean rating points to number 2 . It is harder to use ratingspoints across years as every player could learn from the ones before him, and then when the computers came, that changed everything. But immagine Fisher or Karpov in todays world with acces to computers, maybe they would break 2950/3000 ?
@@MrAlanfalk73 usually with better access to technology and (sports) science the gap between competitors closes. We can see that in chess now as the order behind Magnus shifts violently while earlier there was quite stable pecking order even in lower positions. I would say the technological advancement would have roughly the same impact the opposite way as the inflation of Elo scores due to larger player base which would leave Fisher, Kasparov etc. at rougly the same rating but would close the gap between the other players below them.
@@MrAlanfalk73tbh I think that number years on top is more important too
@@MrAlanfalk73 Reason? Maybe the reason was that there were less competitors in 1972 or less games being played at the top, which explains why the elo then didn't reach as high as now. Maybe the opponents then had less talent then compared to today. There are so many reasons...
@@vojtechnovacek7776 Larger playerbase decreases the ratings, not increases them: the more players there are, the more chances everyone has to play, and learn from, each other, increasing everyone's objective level of play without influencing the ratings. Therefore, a higher objective level of play is now required to attain the same rating. Moreover, advances in computer chess and online resources have made it much easier to improve without playing OTB, meaning a lot more players are now underrated OTB, resulting in even further deflation. This phenomenon is especially apparent in India, where a lack of FIDE tournaments on the club level means the FIDE ratings are about 200 points lower than in countries such as the US. Research has convincingly demonstrated that, on average, FIDE ratings are now around 300 points lower than they were 10 years ago ─ although this effect diminishes at higher ratings, with the deflation only amounting to around 50 points at the very top level. In fact, this research is exactly what motivated FIDE's recent rating change, which progressively increased the ratings of everyone previously rated between 1000 and 2000 by an average of 200 points.
That is an incredible accomplishment to be in the conversation alongside the greatest of players during that time in history. You should be damn proud of yourself, Hikaru Nakamura.
The people's champ.
and the age. when was the last time someone 36 was 2nd highest rated?
@@boohoohoohoo Anand, probably. Other than that, Karpov and Kasparov, too.
@@maxkho00 hah okay i guess its not that rare.
@@boohoohoohoo I think Korchnoi too. Ivanchuk hit number 2 at age 38.
Judit still impressive to hold her ranks in this best of the best for quite some time!
And she was only an experiment from her father to prove than anyone could become top in any field if they just practice from little kids, to refute the idea that "genius are born". This mean one girl having the same training than all the other tops has accomplish the same.
This taking into account all the social and cultural aspects that were against her, I will say without those she could have become top 1 maybe.
@@angellestat2730bruh just no that is just too huge "I'd say" bro it is same as "I'd say I could become top 1 in history", you cant say smh like that cuz gap between her and some of ppl above her is not that little
@@MihajloNasticyou arent good enough to measure the gap with your skills but numbers so you shouldnt be saying this too.
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 I can measure my skills perfectly lmao, cry harder now, she is top1 only for women and not even close to be top 5 not to talk abt top1. I can measure my skills but you cant accept your fav is not best
There are so many crazy things about that clip that are awesome. 1st, Fischer, Karpov, and Kasparov were beasts for their time. 2nd, Ivanchuk is scary af when he wants to be. 3rd, Magnus' run is so damn impressive and he's still going.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown. To maintain that rating is so damn difficult, one slip up and it takes a while to build it up again. Just a reminder that chess is a damn hard game.
I knew Kasparov was a legend but I didn’t realize what an absolute monolith he was. That’s insane
Nobody:
1:43
*Hikaru: Michael Towel*
Don't mock Mr. Towel!
Was great to see judit there for so long too..
She doesn't get enough credit.
@@MrSupernova111 100% agree! She would be throwing down with Praag and So and Ding and similar names today.. And is like the combined Magnus, Kasparov and Karpov of the ladies!
@@MrSupernova111bruh she does get enough credit I would even argue that feminists give her even more credit than she deserves, she was 8th and some "SMART" feminists want to say that she is better than top 3
@@MihajloNastic I've been playing chess for many years. Never in my life have I heard anyone say J Polgar was a top three player in the world. And no, she doesn't get enough credit for her accomplishments.
@@MrSupernova111 she does get enough credit and in this comment section some idiot said she should be 2nd ranked
Anand longevity and resilience to leave the top 10 over the years is simply amazing! he is in my opinion at least a top 5 across the history of chess
Vishy Anand is older than I thought. I didn't know he was playing since 1990 (I guess he was playing even before that bcz he is in this chart from 1990).I remember him from newspaper, obviously he was always in Indian newspaper throughout my school period and we read his name in books too but my schooling was mainly in the first 10 years of 21st century so I thought he played during that time & didn't realize he was playing for a long timr before that. He inspired many and now we have so many young players emerging. In my school period I knew only Vishy Anand and Koneru Humpy as the Indians in chess.
Anand is a legend in the chess world! He is STILL a top player at age 54, although he doesn't compete often. The guy was a top 10 player for like 30 years and even a world champion at the age of 37, the oldest modern world champion.
not to forget, hikaru has had a peak blitz rating of 2934, that is just insanely high, as well as his peak classical rating of 2800+, and we can all just watch this guy play at this level of chess for completely free, amazing mind this supergm has
Hans will beat everyone, just as soon as he stops vibrating.
haha that was soooo bad
yes Garry was boss-like I didn't think so many players would catch up to him
crazy to think what kasparov or fischer could have done with today's technology in their prime years.
@@rockdude1122 . Unstoppable! But better yet, imagine both Fischer and Kasparov competing for #1 with today's technology. My guess is one of them gives up and moves on. There can only be one dominant #1.
@@MrSupernova111fidcher would have became an actor in this time period and would most likely hate chess as he has said before. He wouldnt di that well tbh.
Garry already had this type of innovation and was one of the first to use computer engines.
But I don't think he could have gone much further with it even with today's level if technology.
@@MrSupernova111fidcher would have became an actor in this time period and would most likely hate chess as he has said before. He wouldnt di that well tbh.
Garry already had this type of innovation and was one of the first to use computer engines.
But I don't think he could have gone much further with it even with today's level if technology.
@@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406dementia be like
All the other top players: *slow ascend to the top*
Magnus: *SWOOOSH*
ELO is primarily a relative rating and not a value that directly measures the player's strength, which just means Fischer was superior to his opponents
he was most likely worse than kasparov and magnus in absoloute strength because chess education evolved but the difference between him and players of his time is very comparable, possibly even greater.
@@TheRiquelmeONE there's quite a bit of comparison done between players throughout time, like comparing accuracy compared to computer moves.
Obviously there is no perfect way to measure it, but what's remarkable about Fischer is that he still keeps popping up in the top 3 in most methods, together with Magnus and Kasparov. He was just a very strong player, not just relatively
@@jpietersen519Thats ridiculous considering opening preparation wasnt nearly as deep back then and no computer supported ideas. With that in mind he was probably the strongest chess mind ever
@@TheRiquelmeONElow iq logic from a weeb(not surprising) elo measures relative strength implies intrinsic ability for chess, Fischer was above others in the same chess knowledge framework
@@warrioremperor6320 isn't that what he just said
lmao at how bobby isnt just retiring and left behind - he went off the rails xD they nailed it so good
He went straight up
Kasparov: Magnus is a lethal combination of Karpov and Fischer.
If you watched this graphic, you'd appreciate just how awesome Karpov was and then unless you're a hopeless Fischer fanatic, you'd appreciate how strong Magnus is, especially after Chess Engines reduced The gap between the world number 1 the rest.
I am absolutely in love with Karpov's achievement.
I thought Hans Niemann would top the charts by now with his plug of butt special
Really cool. I watched last week and yes I see your performance vs time. It's very good.
This just reinforced my opinion that karpov is under rated
Nobody who actually knows chess history underrates Karpov. Only people new to the game would dare not give Karpov proper credit.
@@MrSupernova111still underrated in terms of public opinion. so underrated.
Karpov is basically chess's jaedong.
I think Karpov's public image suffers from two factors:
When he played Kasparov, he was regarded in the West as a Soviet stooge. And he had a positional style of play that people found boring.
Looked like an incredibly soft era for chess. I have no idea how you came to your conclusion.
yes: I found all those sudden rises by people at various times to be very interesting.
In my mind Karpov has always been the 4th best player of all time. He was very close to Kasparov's strenght. In their 5 world championship matches Kasparov had 21 wins, 19 losses, and 104 draws in 144 games.
Just imagine if anyone would get those results against Magnus or Bobby Fischer.
vishy's longevity is INSANE. even if he didn't remain at the very top, he is still in the top 10. he's legendary tbh.
Woah this is cool really appreciate how one person shines above the rest
Its crazy to think Vishy was there the longest time, with the likes of both kasparov, kramnik, topalov and magnus, hikaru and fabiano. It really shows he experienced both the eras also its funny that even now he is competing against the far younger generation like prag and gukesh for the India no.1 spot.
India no 1 spot is not really important, sorry to say and I would say staying as the number 1 ranked Chess player for the longest time is infinitely more impressive than staying in the top 10 for the longest time
@@williamrobert9898 He's not comparing Vishy to Kasparov lol.
Bent Larsen not getting enough love here. Guy was so unorthodox and his moves (even choice of openers) is still considered some of the most unique in all of chess.
Kasparov doesn’t really count because he created the game
Magnus neither, he perfected it. Not fair to even mention him. Magnus should be remembered as the God of Chess, the Father, the Son and the holy Spirit.
@@CeRzso u mean to tell me that the god of chess can't beat an engine, bro i think saying god of chess is too much. Humans are prone to errors
@@1stlullaby484 no one cares about the engine
@@applehead2004mj many do
@@CeRzcant beat am engine so no.. he is not any g0d or perfected it
In the wise words of Paul Morphy, "this is pretty epic"
Vishy is a true legend.
Evan ชุกมันหล่อเวเยยย
Judit right there in the mix amazing
2:06 Hikaru: *vibing with the music*
1:30 Henrique Mecking, considered by many, the best Brazilian chess player of all times. Third higher rating in 1977.
I don't play chess but love to watch it, been watching about 2 years and it seems recently chess has got a lot of attention, wonder what future stars will be breaking barriers soon in the next 10 years?
You are the man, thanks for everything
I remember the first time you reacted to a similar graph but it covered many more years of chess history than this one.
We can see in the initial part of the video the greatest legend of brazilian chess, Mecking.
As soon as engines became a thing then the ratings were all over the place noticed the volatility within the last five years
7:07 Hats off to Gukesh, amazing youngster, definitely deserves more recognition...
6:00 Oh, it's that "promising youngster" guy Hikaru again!
So he did become a GM, after all!
Judit Polgar is the only woman on this list which is pretty incredible.
Ivanchuk has fantastic performance
Kasparov followed the tried-and-true move "quit while you're ahead"!
Vishy still in the chart that shows how consistent he is
Hikaru is rising
Fischer, Kasparov & Magnus: "Is there no one else?"
Dont undermine karpov bro
Magnus be like : imma wait for ya guys at the end😂
Fischer had a crazy lead over his contemporaries, but Morphy's was crazier.
Kasparovs is crazier
Fabi... trying to get a sinus fuction in this graph xD
Still, no one knows how Mikhail Tal the magician got outta the list.
Only one man was a full 100 points above 2nd place. Nobody else even came close to that
The GOAT!
Garry was 150ish ahead of 3rd place for some period in there
@@MrSupernova111yes Magnus is the gkat
To be fair, in 1990 Garry was 140 points ahead of the competition except Karpov. So I think Kasparov didn't just come close, he surpassed Fischer's dominance and extended it for 20 years
@@bobing1752 No he didn't
Im amazed by Karpov actually. Yeah Gary was dominating for long, but Carpov rain of being nr 1 or 2 was even longer. :D
Judit polgar was on the list for a long time. Even top 7!
Pretty sure she was 8th?
@MihajloNastic Why even comment this? Just watch the video, she hits 7th before she drops off.
@@PlaygroundMafia kk google tells me she peaked at 8th probably cause she had highest rating while being 8th but nvm
Pretty awesome to see Judit Polgar keeping up with the men for almost 10 years, amazing feat
It’s funny to see that these graphs kinda disprove the inflation theory of ELO.
My love to Viktor Korchnoi. He left an impression on me. rest in piece.
Korchnoi also left an impression on me. A younger me that read about the story of chess championships enjoyed the controversy of the 1978 and 1981 world championships between Korchnoi and Karpov, not to mention that his playing style is the kind that I personally favor, as well. When I started playing chess tournaments, I got to meet him at the Quebec Open in July of 2004, in which he was the most renowned participant in the open section. Obviously I didn't go and talk to him or anything like that, but man, I was amazed. He had a very real "presence" to him. Like a sort of aura. May he rest in peace.
There will almost always be a big gap between #1 and #2 because one is the best so no one can consistently lower their rating, therefore their rating just kinda keeps going up except for the occasional mishap
it would be awesome to see how the current top players would fare vs the computer that Kasparov played againts (deep blue?). like if that computer only have access to games that were played before it played against kasparov.
I think chess has never been as competitive and difficult as it is now. The reason is the massive online market.
This was good information content. Thank you 😊 Stay inspired.
**michael tal**😂
I love Michael Tal :)
This is why Karpov is my favorite player
And his games art works of art
Different toppers, different generations, different dominations
Bobby, karpov, magnus
Our boy, Maggie.
once magnus crossed 2800 he never came down in 2700s
“Are you the strongest because you’re magnus, or are you magnus because you’re the strongest”
Magnus being the one above all lol
Judit Polgar deserves more credit, she was right up there for a while
Kasparov, Karpov, Magnus are there for quite a long too? Setting her at something over 8th is just playing favorites
Was it just ME or did the (#2 - #15) players seem to have a LOT MORE volatility on the "Y Axis" (SR) in the RECENT era?
Maybe because of modern teaching methods, and game evolution, there seems to be a LOT more movement in the "non #1" rankings?
The old ratings updated every six months. And I'm guessing there were less games played.
“Michael Tal”💀💀💀
Kramnik in 1995. Interesting!
я так орнул, когда он сказал Майкл Таль
Louis litt is the man
The really good thing about hikaru is he admitted great players better than him.. And he admire them..
He gives respect and take respect.
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Imagine Fischer playing Internet Chess...! How high his rating would be!...?...
2500 cuz he'd be new to this generation
could be also 2700
@@XIdeaUA-cam . You're clueless if you think peak Fischer is below top ten in any era. All he would need to do is do some catch up in opening prep to get back as a contender for chess dominance.
@@MrSupernova111 nah, he didn't study computers so yeah 2700-2800 to be accurate
@@MrSupernova111if he grew up in this age he would be so ahead
Shoutout to Judit Polgar!
Pretty sure the dip from Magnus is from lack of effort lol
3:44 Kramnik
3:44 it just not feel the same anymore
Gawr Gura's sub count against other vtuber is still the most insane one of all this infographic thing
bruh
7:39 They need to define the words about their accomplishments and achievements in their Wikipedia articles versus controversy. Bobby Fisher has a lot of controversy from going insane.
Mikhail Tal my favourite💖
Fisher was ahead of his age
That Bobby Fisher time was some absolute dominance god damn
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Think of the magic we could’ve seen from Fischer if he didn’t go over the edge. Shame.
stockfish never dropped in rating
Dude Bobby is just ridiculous... imagine if he never quit and just kept playing against himself like the psycho he was lmao...
I wonder what it must feel like to be one of the best ever, but not the best. It’s a massive achievement, but I wonder if such person dwells much on it.
I think most do but eventually they'll accept it. That darn Magnus ruined everything for them. All they will remember is, I was good, real good, you know, just not better than magnus. Then when they grow old and get dementia or alzheimers they'll mumble in their sleep "Magnus... Magnus... Magnus" then wake up in terror after a god awful nightmare. He will haunt them even when they cant remember what breakfast they had.
@@CeRzthen he accuses everyone of cheating.
all chess players in the entire chess scene has suspicions about who cheats. Do your research before falling for the social media bubble like a slow person. The thing is, Magnus is such an important person in the chess scene and dominant that he gets all the media attention when other people who says the same things as magnus do and get no attention for it. There is not a single master in chess that hasn't accused someone of cheating. And of course you're american, it's not your fault. Maybe you'll get it right one day.@@rickdonnelly3937
@@CeRz Very true. A way to escape this "Second in Rome" situation is to recognize the struggle for a single first spot as a false dichotomy and concentrate on other things.
You'll make it to the top Hikaru. I am pretty sure you will!
lmao, dude is already considered top 10 of all time by most. He's already on the top
@@Kimera92 He is not considered top 10 of all time lol. Who are these "most" saying he is top 10 all time? He is a top 10 player right now and a fantastic chess player, but he has nowhere near enough accolades to be a "top 10 of all time by most" player. Somebody like Anand or even Kramnik are 100% are higher up in most people's top 10s because they 1) actually were (multiple time) world champions and 2) actually hit (and held) the number 1 ranking position several times in their careers. Hikaru has to at least win 1 candidates.
Fabi was so close