Putting up silage as a kid was always one of my favorite times of year. We didn't have our own equipment to do it and hired our neighbors to do it for us. They had a two row that they pulled behind ...i think it was a 1066. That tractor always had a haze of smoke coming out the stack and I remember thinking how interesting it was that something so small would pull so hard on the engine. My job was to roll the pit silo. It was one of the few times per year that we got the cab tractor out and I felt like a star running it :) Thanks for the memories. Great video as always.
It’s easy to forget because of gradual innovation, but can we pause and recognize how utterly insane a 900hp piece of machinery is? Hearing that much power growling under the labor of silage chopping is incredible.
That was a great filming opportunity. It’s interesting looking back at that footage to know a few months later a tornado completely changed the landscape of the test farm and area.
Thanks for the video. Id like to see more evolution videos like this. I could be wrong, but it seems that farm equipment in general has became less reliable and more prone to breaking down. In the 60s and 70s, for example, it wasn't unusual to have a 10+ year old tractor that never failed to perform. Today, not so much.
I remember seeing some of the earlier models out in the field but it's been years ago. We thought they were big stuff back then 😂. It's interesting seeing how times have changed
Hey jason great vidéo This year i have open field with 2 fox 6644 3 row forage harvester and silage corn with a john deere 4430 and 3 row john deere and silage wagon john deere and the allis chalmers 190 with 2 row meyer chopper
The 9900 choppers were Farming, Fixing, and Fabricating, Andy's uncle. Love your presentation on John Deere Forage harvesters. Can you do the evolution of Claas and New Holland Forage Harvesters?
It amazes me that these new unreliable emission regulated machines are $ 1 million. I loved seeing the older models chop growing up. Still see them around too!
Inflation, plus WAY more capacity and WAY more comfort. And emissions are good for all of us. People in 1950s probably said the same thing about replacing their 1930 model on steel wheels. Those darn tires wearing out and needing to be replaced all the time! Electric start?! Batteries dying all the time! nothing but problems!
@@MidwestFarmToysonly problem is he’s right, I drive truck for a living and these new trucks just don’t make it very long before having issues. Whether it be electrical issues or DEF issues. I will say though there nice when they do work but people are spending more on trying to keep them running then 15-20 years ago.
@@samgogo9067 DEF is only a decade or so old, you should expect issues with any new technology. Electronics though really is lacking. The problem isn't emissions regulations tho the problem is none of the electronics and components are American made anymore. The components are all cheap and Ping Pong over there doesn't know or care what the part he's building is going in to when he's making 3 cents a day.
A local custom chopper operator turned a 5820(?) up to over 500 hp and ran a custom made 6rn head before Kemper were available. It's a wonder it didn't self detonate after what it harvested in the years he had it. He runs NH now. The 7k choppers are powerful, but the new 9k's put them to shame.
Oh wow what a cool classic. I have only seen the open station 5200 in the 1972 sales brochure. That is a chopper I would love to film. Could you email me at bigtractorpowermedia@gmail.com
I'm amazed & disgusted by the prices. They seemed to almost double with every new generation. You mentioned production was moved to Germany. Does that mean they are essentially Claas, or at least share tech/parts?
That was filmed in 2012 when the 7550 was brand new. I filmed it with a cannon vixa. Unfortunately, with the advancement of cameras and I purchased a new camera every year at the beginning of the season, the quality of the footage I took 12 years ago has a pixalated look now even though it looked great back then. That was the only chopper of that generation I have filmed. Sometimes you have to make trade-off in order to completely cover the content.
Thanks for a great video! . I´m live in central Mexico and actually are in search for a pre owned 3 or 4 row corn harvester. I´m thinking 5460, 5820 or 5830. Do you know what are the mayor differences between these models? Or where can I find out more about their specs? I would really appreciate your help.
When you are at 6 mph and looking over your shoulder to fill it’s not a perfect process. Often it looks good from the chopper seat and they don’t see it going over the otherside.
Double crop sorghum. They chop corn in late July and then plant sorghum right behind the chopper. They chop the sorghum once frost sets in during November.
@bigtractorpower OOPS. That comment was supposed to go to the Jawtooth channel. And I meant Ohio. They've got good beans in Cincinnati. Here in SE Ohio, we got very little.
5820 was big HP for the mid-80s .love the sound of corn being chopped...especially in the older machines. Farmers with 8600 & 9900 are top-notch operators. I just can't get over how the most recent series almost doubled in price from the previous series...kinda ridiculous, along with everything else Deere is putting out.
Kinda ridiculous how you think you're gonna get extra capacity/speed, increased operator comfort, and keep up with inflation, all for the same price as something 10 years ago.
The 5820 is my favorite John Deere chopper. They were so cool to see new in the 80’s. Of all the choppers in the video the 5820 was the hardest to find.
@@MidwestFarmToyseasy there Mr. know-it-all, just pointing out it seemed like a significant jump from 2020 on, when comparing to the new series jumps through the decades. You’re probably the type who thinks the inflation we’ve experienced the past 4 years is a “good thing” and have a Harris Walz sign in your front yard.
Howdy, can any farmer from the US tell me, why the track width of the forage trailer tractors mostly isn't changed to a wider & better stand? Looks pretty dangerous to drive with an 7R/8R on a track with round about 5ft. Looking forward to practical tips... Bavarian regards
If they're used for other jobs on the farm they still need to fit down the rows. Most stuff is on 30in rows so the tractor needs to be on it too. Moving it out wider just for harvest is a lot of work. And moving it out one row wider from 60in to 90in doesn't work because your row crop implements won't line up. And Moving it out twice as wide to 120in is SUPER wide and isn't useful going down the roadway
Always cool but never understood why farm companies like Deere ect make new pull types and the newest self propelled that there is no new in-between like tractors ya can find a new tractor in just about ever HP size but not choppers
John Deere currently offers 11 self propelled forage harvesters from 425 to 970 hp. There is a pretty good range to choose from. John Deere discontinued the production of pool type for harvesters in 2019. They currently use Dion as their dealer source for Pull type customers.
Hey Jason. Was the last chopper or the newest one made by John Deere was that Andy from Farming, Fixing & Fabricating? It sure looked like it & I think he did a demo with that chopper once but I could be wrong
Putting up silage as a kid was always one of my favorite times of year. We didn't have our own equipment to do it and hired our neighbors to do it for us. They had a two row that they pulled behind ...i think it was a 1066. That tractor always had a haze of smoke coming out the stack and I remember thinking how interesting it was that something so small would pull so hard on the engine. My job was to roll the pit silo. It was one of the few times per year that we got the cab tractor out and I felt like a star running it :) Thanks for the memories. Great video as always.
Great memories. Silage chopping is one of my favorite things to film. What was the cab tractor that you had on your farm?
@@bigtractorpower 4440
Truly a long proud history of forage harvesting equipment by JD. Great filming Jason over the years!👍🏻👍🏻
It’s easy to forget because of gradual innovation, but can we pause and recognize how utterly insane a 900hp piece of machinery is? Hearing that much power growling under the labor of silage chopping is incredible.
Excellent video once again big T 👍👍👍
Love the evolution videos ...
Thanks Jason. It’s nice to see the old plot machine! Enjoyed having you out that day
That was a great filming opportunity. It’s interesting looking back at that footage to know a few months later a tornado completely changed the landscape of the test farm and area.
I just now realize you are past 3,000 videos for big tractor power and 600,000 subscribers. CONGRATULATIONS
Thank you. You have been the first person to catch the jump to 3,000 😁👍This is number 3,008.
Thanks for the video. Id like to see more evolution videos like this. I could be wrong, but it seems that farm equipment in general has became less reliable and more prone to breaking down. In the 60s and 70s, for example, it wasn't unusual to have a 10+ year old tractor that never failed to perform. Today, not so much.
Remember the Steiger tractors, before Case bought them. 😍
An excellent video. Here's something I never would have guessed. Oliver had a self propelled forage harvester before John Deere.
I sure wish I could film an Oliver self propelled in action. Congratulations on your pull type.
You can tell a lot of filming went in to this one! Great work 👍
It took five years to track down examples of 11 generations of forage harvesters. Big history project.
@@bigtractorpower that is incredible!
Excellent video 👍
Thank you for watching.
Wow such cool stuff you have seen over the years
It took five years to gather all the models. It was fun tracking them down
Love this style of content.
I remember seeing some of the earlier models out in the field but it's been years ago. We thought they were big stuff back then 😂. It's interesting seeing how times have changed
Any self propelled was big time in its day. It’s amazing 200 hp was a big deal and now it’s almost 1,000 hp.
I drive a 5400 for many years in the 80’s and early 90’s
Hey jason great vidéo This year i have open field with 2 fox 6644 3 row forage harvester and silage corn with a john deere 4430 and 3 row john deere and silage wagon john deere and the allis chalmers 190 with 2 row meyer chopper
Very cool video👍👍 it's impressive how technology has changed over the years😁👍
Every one of them was a monster in their day. It makes you wonder what they will look like 25 years from now ?
@@bigtractorpower I think that farm machines will have even more technology in it with lots of new features.
Very cool video BTP! That guy was moving right along with that 6750 in that corn all things considered.
The 50 series from the late 90’s are harder to find. This was a nice one.
The 9900 choppers were Farming, Fixing, and Fabricating, Andy's uncle. Love your presentation on John Deere Forage harvesters. Can you do the evolution of Claas and New Holland Forage Harvesters?
Very cool video. The 6000 series I feel was the biggest jump in capacity.
Fair smoke out of that old tractor
It amazes me that these new unreliable emission regulated machines are $ 1 million. I loved seeing the older models chop growing up. Still see them around too!
Inflation, plus WAY more capacity and WAY more comfort. And emissions are good for all of us. People in 1950s probably said the same thing about replacing their 1930 model on steel wheels. Those darn tires wearing out and needing to be replaced all the time! Electric start?! Batteries dying all the time! nothing but problems!
@@MidwestFarmToysonly problem is he’s right, I drive truck for a living and these new trucks just don’t make it very long before having issues. Whether it be electrical issues or DEF issues. I will say though there nice when they do work but people are spending more on trying to keep them running then 15-20 years ago.
@@samgogo9067 DEF is only a decade or so old, you should expect issues with any new technology. Electronics though really is lacking. The problem isn't emissions regulations tho the problem is none of the electronics and components are American made anymore. The components are all cheap and Ping Pong over there doesn't know or care what the part he's building is going in to when he's making 3 cents a day.
A local custom chopper operator turned a 5820(?) up to over 500 hp and ran a custom made 6rn head before Kemper were available. It's a wonder it didn't self detonate after what it harvested in the years he had it. He runs NH now. The 7k choppers are powerful, but the new 9k's put them to shame.
The 5820 was my first Workhorse
Very cool. The 5820 is my favorite John Deere chopper. They are hard to find today.
We use a JD 5200 self propelled chopper on our farm. And its a factory open station chopper. Its loud and very dirty for sure.
Oh wow what a cool classic. I have only seen the open station 5200 in the 1972 sales brochure. That is a chopper I would love to film. Could you email me at bigtractorpowermedia@gmail.com
❤😊I SURE HAVE ENJOYED IT ❤😊
Thank you for watching.
Great vid. Is it possible to to this with New Holland forage harvesters please. Have an Awesome Day.
Good video.
Thank you. It took 5 years of filming to gather all the machines.
That looks a lot like Andy Hourigan in the 9900!
I agree
Andy’s uncle. That truck box built by Andy though.
John deere was the first to offer a kernel precessor on the self propelled harvesters
I did not know that. Which model had the processor first ?
@@bigtractorpower 5400
I'm amazed & disgusted by the prices. They seemed to almost double with every new generation. You mentioned production was moved to Germany. Does that mean they are essentially Claas, or at least share tech/parts?
no ties to claas, deere has a major factory in germany for combines and choppers .
No
@@classic89deerefever80... You tell him
Welcome to farming in 2024 with the prices.
Deere has no affiliation with claas, from what I’ve heard they’re pretty big competitors over there.
Thanks for posting.😊
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Pretty amazing stuff
Lots of history in action. Thank you for watching.
@@bigtractorpower No I think that's awesome. I love agriculture and I have always loved what you do!
Can you do a video explaining and normalising old prices fo currebt prices? Doesnt have fo be overly complicated.
Looks like someone took video of the 7550 with my dad's 1980's camcorder
That was filmed in 2012 when the 7550 was brand new. I filmed it with a cannon vixa. Unfortunately, with the advancement of cameras and I purchased a new camera every year at the beginning of the season, the quality of the footage I took 12 years ago has a pixalated look now even though it looked great back then. That was the only chopper of that generation I have filmed. Sometimes you have to make trade-off in order to completely cover the content.
Thanks for a great video! . I´m live in central Mexico and actually are in search for a pre owned 3 or 4 row corn harvester. I´m thinking 5460, 5820 or 5830. Do you know what are the mayor differences between these models? Or where can I find out more about their specs? I would really appreciate your help.
We had a 5400 then a 5460 then Jumped to an NH fr9060 which is our current chopper.
Basically... since 1972 until 1992 was the same machine
Yes most of the upgrades went into the cab and engine. In 1992 horse power and capability grew and grew.
This video there's a lot of operator screw UPS but I guess it gets the job done
When you are at 6 mph and looking over your shoulder to fill it’s not a perfect process. Often it looks good from the chopper seat and they don’t see it going over the otherside.
What was the 7880 choping?
Double crop sorghum. They chop corn in late July and then plant sorghum right behind the chopper. They chop the sorghum once frost sets in during November.
A lot better looking beans on the west side of the state than over here on the east.
Which state?
@bigtractorpower OOPS. That comment was supposed to go to the Jawtooth channel. And I meant Ohio. They've got good beans in Cincinnati. Here in SE Ohio, we got very little.
5820 was big HP for the mid-80s .love the sound of corn being chopped...especially in the older machines. Farmers with 8600 & 9900 are top-notch operators. I just can't get over how the most recent series almost doubled in price from the previous series...kinda ridiculous, along with everything else Deere is putting out.
Kinda ridiculous how you think you're gonna get extra capacity/speed, increased operator comfort, and keep up with inflation, all for the same price as something 10 years ago.
The 5820 is my favorite John Deere chopper. They were so cool to see new in the 80’s. Of all the choppers in the video the 5820 was the hardest to find.
@@bigtractorpowerI bet…great video you put together!
@@MidwestFarmToyseasy there Mr. know-it-all, just pointing out it seemed like a significant jump from 2020 on, when comparing to the new series jumps through the decades. You’re probably the type who thinks the inflation we’ve experienced the past 4 years is a “good thing” and have a Harris Walz sign in your front yard.
@@EDBZ28 glad I could help
Everything is just too big nowadays....
Howdy,
can any farmer from the US tell me, why the track width of the forage trailer tractors mostly isn't changed to a wider & better stand?
Looks pretty dangerous to drive with an 7R/8R on a track with round about 5ft.
Looking forward to practical tips...
Bavarian regards
If they're used for other jobs on the farm they still need to fit down the rows. Most stuff is on 30in rows so the tractor needs to be on it too. Moving it out wider just for harvest is a lot of work. And moving it out one row wider from 60in to 90in doesn't work because your row crop implements won't line up. And Moving it out twice as wide to 120in is SUPER wide and isn't useful going down the roadway
@@MidwestFarmToys Thank U for your helpful answer 👍
Stupid high prices
They are industrsil machines like a bull dozer building a high way. They have always been a big investment even 50 years ago.
Always cool but never understood why farm companies like Deere ect make new pull types and the newest self propelled that there is no new in-between like tractors ya can find a new tractor in just about ever HP size but not choppers
John Deere currently offers 11 self propelled forage harvesters from 425 to 970 hp. There is a pretty good range to choose from. John Deere discontinued the production of pool type for harvesters in 2019. They currently use Dion as their dealer source for Pull type customers.
@@bigtractorpower cool
Deere stopped making pull-types several years back. New Holland, Dion and I believe JFStoll make pull-types. Not sure anyone else still does.
First
Thank you for you for your enthusiasm to watch first.
I find the second half of this highly ridiculous!
Why is it ridiculous ? I am just sharing the history. It took five years of filming to track all these models down.
Choppin corn is a hoot
Hey Jason. Was the last chopper or the newest one made by John Deere was that Andy from Farming, Fixing & Fabricating? It sure looked like it & I think he did a demo with that chopper once but I could be wrong
It is his uncles 9900. The boxes on the trucks are built by Andy so it all looks very similar to his farm.
looks like the next model will cost a Million bucks
I would say it will by 1,000 hp or a bit more and reach the $1 million like the X9 1100 combine and 9RX 830 tractor.
I’ll take the ‘70s models.