Everybody seems to forget that Mexico was already fighting its own civil war. Lasting 10 years (1910-1920) and 1 million casualties. In no way Mexico would be able to wage war agains the US.
Mexico is still in a War, Cartel Wars which affects everyone and everything. It is sad that the country that my parents were raised is now in a big chaos.
Yes the civil war had taken place, and there were a lot of people killed. However, that is not to say Villistas and other Veterans of the War could not have waged a guerrilla hit and run war along the SW border, especially if supported by German advisors and weapons that were coming in through the southern border and ports of Mexico. This type of warfare could have diverted a number of US troops and other resources which would have impacted the Western Front contribution in 1917 and 1918.
In Tuchman's book on the Telegram, she has seem to take the position that the telegram did have a great influence in the decision. Also, we must not forget that between 1911 and 1921 there was still great tensions along the SW border between the US and Mexico. Also historically, there was a great tension between Japan and the US.
At 6:02 the ppeaker states that Canada was a colony of Great Britain at the time. To be fair Newfoundland and Labrador (which would become Canada's 10th province later) was a colony. The rest of Canada was an independent country.
Canada ceased to be colony in 1867. As a historian he ought to be better informed on this, but it's possible that many academics have such a marginal knowledge of Canadian history that they overinfluenced by a casual acquaintance with the slow patriation* of Canadian executive, legislative, and judicial functions from formal approval by the monarchy. However ceremonial the purpose of such things, the fact that things Canadian did in fact have to be signed, by Canadian law itself (if a legally _self_ imposed requirement), into law _in Britain_ , is something entirely alien to the American mind: you cut off from the ruler and you rule yourself and you're done with it, no ifs ands or buts. To this day there are some civil cases that must appear before a British court, but all criminal cases have been patriated. It was still possible to be born in Canada during WW1 and still hold British citizenship. Was such an individual in the class of... colonist? If all Canadians had that status in 1914, would that not still make them denizens of a colony? Probably not. I think... ______ *A mostly Canadian term.
@@Pootycat8359 The world, especially Americans, were confused by Canadian currency with pictures of Queen Elizabeth on them. Please explain that, as we have no British royalty portrayed on American currency. Are you independent of The British monarchy or not?
I am doing a history project about war world 1, my group chose the Zimmermann Telegram. I have to play a witness in are news project,i need help with the project.
This might help. I produce The Bletchley Park Podcast and interviewed the 2 grandsons of Nigel de Grey. In the first interview Michael talks about the Zimmerman telegram. audioboom.com/boos/3730685-bletchley-park-podcast-extra-e45-anthony-and-michael-de-grey-cementing-family-ties
Ver.r.r.r.y interesting! Someone replied to your question, and "1 REPLY" was indicated, but the reply had been removed! This also happened to me, in a post I made on a video about the Spanish Civil War. It was about music, and non-political. But I cited the name of a certain well known German marching song (I won't mention it here, lest I draw the attention of the UA-cam censor-bot), and it was deleted.
@@Pootycat8359 happens all the time. But I have the same question. What was the role of the (German)zionists in deciphering the telegram in the UK? I think BIG. Are we allowed to know? Of course not!
I don't think there's a "paper trail," or at least not one that's not carefully guarded. But what I've been able to make out, is that Rothschild contacted fellow Zionist, Zimmerman, in Germany, through his channels, who then sent the telegram to the German ambassador in Washington, D.C. That version was encrypted in Germany's latest code. The German ambassador then relayed it, in an OBSOLETE code (which Zimmerman knew the British had cracked), to Mexico City. Zimmerman knew the Britts had their spies all over the U.S. (just as he had his), and that they would intercept the telegram and decipher it.
Thanks for the lecture, sounds like a great book! When did the Americans figure out they were being eavesdropped on and what was their reaction?
It's a shame that it isn't made clear that Nigel de Grey did most of the decryption work on the Zimmerman Telegram.
more important: what was the role of zionists in it?
Everybody seems to forget that Mexico was already fighting its own civil war. Lasting 10 years (1910-1920) and 1 million casualties. In no way Mexico would be able to wage war agains the US.
Mexico is still in a War, Cartel Wars which affects everyone and everything. It is sad that the country that my parents were raised is now in a big chaos.
Alpamomo have you watch Benjamin H. Freedman's speech on UA-cam? I suggest that you do! It is priceless.
Yes the civil war had taken place, and there were a lot of people killed. However, that is not to say Villistas and other Veterans of the War could not have waged a guerrilla hit and run war along the SW border, especially if supported by German advisors and weapons that were coming in through the southern border and ports of Mexico. This type of warfare could have diverted a number of US troops and other resources which would have impacted the Western Front contribution in 1917 and 1918.
"The first casualty in war is the Truth".
have you watched Benjamin H. Freedman's speech on UA-cam??
star wars the clone wars.
In Tuchman's book on the Telegram, she has seem to take the position that the telegram did have a great influence in the decision. Also, we must not forget that between 1911 and 1921 there was still great tensions along the SW border between the US and Mexico. Also historically, there was a great tension between Japan and the US.
When did Britain confess to America, that they where intercepting their transatlantic messages?
Germany and Mexico always a like
wonder if China and Russia will do the same
At 6:02 the ppeaker states that Canada was a colony of Great Britain at the time. To be fair Newfoundland and Labrador (which would become Canada's 10th province later) was a colony. The rest of Canada was an independent country.
Canada ceased to be colony in 1867.
As a historian he ought to be better informed on this, but it's possible that many academics have such a marginal knowledge of Canadian history that they overinfluenced by a casual acquaintance with the slow patriation* of Canadian executive, legislative, and judicial functions from formal approval by the monarchy. However ceremonial the purpose of such things, the fact that things Canadian did in fact have to be signed, by Canadian law itself (if a legally _self_ imposed requirement), into law _in Britain_ , is something entirely alien to the American mind: you cut off from the ruler and you rule yourself and you're done with it, no ifs ands or buts.
To this day there are some civil cases that must appear before a British court, but all criminal cases have been patriated.
It was still possible to be born in Canada during WW1 and still hold British citizenship. Was such an individual in the class of... colonist? If all Canadians had that status in 1914, would that not still make them denizens of a colony? Probably not. I think...
______
*A mostly Canadian term.
@@-danR True! And in 1837, Canada received partial independence.
@@Pootycat8359 The world, especially Americans, were confused by Canadian currency with pictures of Queen Elizabeth on them. Please explain that, as we have no British royalty portrayed on American currency. Are you independent of The British monarchy or not?
I am doing a history project about war world 1, my group chose the Zimmermann Telegram. I have to play a witness in are news project,i need help with the project.
This might help. I produce The Bletchley Park Podcast and interviewed the 2 grandsons of Nigel de Grey. In the first interview Michael talks about the Zimmerman telegram.
audioboom.com/boos/3730685-bletchley-park-podcast-extra-e45-anthony-and-michael-de-grey-cementing-family-ties
Mark Cotton Thank you,my history project past . Also I didn't get any credit for the work I did for it
The belgian invasion started in August 1914, mr historian
29:38 is Timestamp for Japanese response
Ok 3+ minutes in.....speakrr begins
Trust but verify
Two nns is german one is Jewish?
Neither, nor. "Zimmermann" is a very common name in Germany and means "Carpenter"
The intro was so boring that I lost interest sorry had that happen with another video with the similar tone and Cadence
the intro was fire
is this AUTHOR..... JEW?
Are you a lunatic?
Ver.r.r.r.y interesting! Someone replied to your question, and "1 REPLY" was indicated, but the reply had been removed! This also happened to me, in a post I made on a video about the Spanish Civil War. It was about music, and non-political. But I cited the name of a certain well known German marching song (I won't mention it here, lest I draw the attention of the UA-cam censor-bot), and it was deleted.
@@Pootycat8359 happens all the time. But I have the same question. What was the role of the (German)zionists in deciphering the telegram in the UK? I think BIG. Are we allowed to know? Of course not!
I don't think there's a "paper trail," or at least not one that's not carefully guarded. But what I've been able to make out, is that Rothschild contacted fellow Zionist, Zimmerman, in Germany, through his channels, who then sent the telegram to the German ambassador in Washington, D.C. That version was encrypted in Germany's latest code. The German ambassador then relayed it, in an OBSOLETE code (which Zimmerman knew the British had cracked), to Mexico City. Zimmerman knew the Britts had their spies all over the U.S. (just as he had his), and that they would intercept the telegram and decipher it.