SMTV Vengeance Masakado Boss Fight

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  • @jaffinator2166
    @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +20

    Hi Everyone I hope you enjoyed. As usual, while I welcome disagreement in the comment section, please keep all criticism respectful and constructive. Check the description for how I did it. Also to say the last line of the description again. Yes I am aware of True Masakado. But f#ck this boss. I’ll leave that to Deus.

  • @Ziroikabi
    @Ziroikabi 4 місяці тому +42

    PTSD of Nocturne Luci's basic attack

  • @lightpillar7557
    @lightpillar7557 Місяць тому +6

    Mastema was actually my MVP for True Masakado. After putting him under the Shield of God and using Fierce Roar on him, you would actually want Freikugels to crit, because you would have 4 additional turns on the next turn. It is very slow, but pretty safe strategy for slowly dwindling down his last 30% of HP. All for the price of unspeakable violence on Mastema, but that was a sacrifice I was willing to make.

  • @ubermaster1
    @ubermaster1 4 місяці тому +47

    Yea this fight is the epitome of "SMT moments"
    It is made or broken by whether or not Masakado feels like getting a few crits during his turns.
    It's both very on brand/fun for an SMT super boss, and also absolutely horseshit.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +9

      @@ubermaster1 Serveral SMT moments were occurred in the making of this video.

  • @General_C
    @General_C 4 місяці тому +29

    All target Freikegel? Nah, that shit's all target MURAKUMO.
    *DON'T LET HIM CRIT YOUR ASS.*

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +6

      @@General_C actually it kind of is
      Both have 230 base power. But his move is 280 on crit vs Murakumo being 330 on crit.

  • @DiabloTraeluz
    @DiabloTraeluz 2 місяці тому +2

    Hi, relating my experience beating this fight to anyone who comes to this video in the future:
    Masakado's fight appears to only have the gimmicks that he can freely cast Diarama, he has 5 press turns, and is weak to everything, giving you effectively 8 press turns should you use any non-Almighty attack. This is ignoring his secret fourth gimmick: his passive, which tracks each active effect on him and raises his crit rate and crit damage for each active effect on him. This includes debuffs. While he has a really high crit rate and a way to get around a Nahobino borrowing the Demi-Fiend's Masakado Magatama, debuffing him will send his crit rate through the moon, and thanks to boss damage, will likely keep his crit damage high enough to easily one shot many of your more durable demons.
    His fight is going to be a slugfest no matter what, but as long as you can outrace the damage that he's putting out and keep his Diarama spam HP negative, you should eventually win. Avoid debuffing him, and he should get substantially easier.
    I don't have any tips for Kiou Masakado. Good luck with that one.

  • @_GLXC
    @_GLXC 3 місяці тому +3

    tips:
    reflect/drain delete all turns.
    guard massively reduces freikugel damage to like 30% of what it normally does with a crit. also it activates magatsuhi dispersion.
    taunt.
    this rolled into one demon frees up half of the party to basically make a nuclear test-dummy out of masakado. you can take your time to actually set up the optimal offense.

  • @urameshitrev1851
    @urameshitrev1851 4 місяці тому +35

    It is funny how Dagda is functionally the same as Masakado, they just didnt give him Almighty Attacks, or as high of a crit rate.
    But Good job on the fight!

    • @DarkAdonisVyers
      @DarkAdonisVyers 3 місяці тому

      Or heal-spamming. This is like fighting Omega Zero in MUGEN all over again.

  • @FlavorOfTheMonth
    @FlavorOfTheMonth 4 місяці тому +18

    Great job on the kill! That was a good watch, but I'd push back on the commentary that there's no strategy involved, partially because in my opinion managing the large amounts of damage is the strategy.
    I think you can massively mitigate the RNG of this fight by having a dedicated tank. I used a Shiva for my kill, because he already drains two elements by default and resists anything I can't make room for, and used most of his skill slots outside taunting on getting as many drains/repels as possible to end Masakado's turn ASAP, as well as double Life Spring for sponging Almighty hits. Guard mitigates a lot of the damage from Freikugel, which can otherwise potentially tear through your team, dedicated tank included, like toilet paper. Demeter is my favorite healer for this fight because Eleusinian Harvest (Mediarahan + Bowl of Hygieia) is by far the best heal in terms of raw throughput, which is what this fight checks more than anything else.
    Once he soft enrages with Recalcitrant Execution this will start to fall off somewhat, but if you can get Enduring Soul on as many party members as possible and guard your Nahobino judiciously, that should buy you enough time to finish the job provided you have the DPS.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +7

      @@FlavorOfTheMonth honestly despite how salty I was in the description, there is a lot that goes into the fight.
      As another example, main attacker. The game very strongly nudges you to use Yoshitsune because Hassou Tobi can do a lot of DPS. But you can also do a lot with Gungnir, Keraunos, Paraselene Blur, or any Myriad Slashes/Figment Slash attacker. I just chose to use Agrat because she’s Agrat, my beloved and her crit rate is shockingly high even without Murderous Glee.

    • @FlavorOfTheMonth
      @FlavorOfTheMonth 4 місяці тому +1

      @@jaffinator2166 My usual DPS carry is Dagda, but I ended up benching him for this fight because I just couldn't make room for him between using a tank and the necessary supports, and Nahobino did most of my DPS. I run a magic build, so most of my damage came from High Pleroma boosted Glacial Blast. Paraselene Blur looks pretty neat because I like agility builds, but I'm also glad they buffed magic from the base game and didn't wanna pass that up. Great job managing to win using your fave!

    • @كيرلسطلعت-ظ1ر
      @كيرلسطلعت-ظ1ر 3 місяці тому

      In my attempt i used dagda as both my attacker and my damage sponge because he is immune to all four elements and by nullifying the rest by using passives masakado will lose his turns whenever he attacks dagda and used konohana sakuya as my buffer and onyankopon for his unique skill to ensure masakado targets only dagda and as a debuffer and for nahobino I used kanabi veil to lessen the damage from his almighty attacks and used him as another attacker occasionally i make dagda guards so that masakado never crits using freikugel it took a while but in the end i beat him on my first playthrough

  • @KishinAubrey
    @KishinAubrey 4 місяці тому +6

    i fought the true 7 press turn masakado and it was crazy. while debuffing him increases his crit rate, you still need to debuff him otherwise you won't do enough damage. having a lahmu (good for magic crits) with taunt and repel almost everything and a figment slash arioch plus lots of dead demons was necessary for me

  • @DMSwordsmaster
    @DMSwordsmaster 2 місяці тому +3

    Honestly on Normal he's not that bad. I went into it on NG+ with a strategy and it actually worked out pretty solidly. I did spam the sweet merciful YHVH out of bead chains admittedly.
    But nah it wasn't too bad. On normal. On Hard it's probably a whole different ballgame.
    Funnily I actually used Eisheth as the primary damage dealer... Eh, when it was time to attack. Basically I sort of played passively and defensively, poking Masakado while having Eisheth keep the guard up after using a charge gem. Once I got Masakado to a specific HP threshold I used Mephisto's stagnant air to inflict mirage, activated Savage, and went to town.
    Eisheth did 40k damage with her attack.
    He didn't survive the turn.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  2 місяці тому

      @@DMSwordsmaster for Godborn I’m actually doing something similar but with Hayataro

  • @Lain00000
    @Lain00000 2 місяці тому +1

    skipping all dialogue and attack animations except for queens decree is so real

  • @penmustache283
    @penmustache283 3 місяці тому +2

    1st time playing a SMT game and just finished beating him on Hard: this guys RNG is brutal. It really came down to whether he Freikgul crits you to death or not. Took me about 4 hours to finally get lucky enough.
    Really not looking forward to the True Masakado fight, but ill at least have access to more drain and repel skills for it since it ends his turn immediately.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  3 місяці тому +1

      @@penmustache283 to this day I have not fought True Masakado and do not plan on it. Best of luck to you 🫡

  • @scientistB
    @scientistB 4 місяці тому +3

    I just beat him (the normal fight because lol) using Blur Dodge as my only real DPS source, with my team being Konohana, Pixie for buffs/debuffs, and freaking Onyankopon because King of Tales is so underrated. Helps that I had Demi-fiend's essence affinities too, probably.
    Tried to use your Agrat build because she's great but perhaps she wasn't strong enough this time.
    Good job on the fight in any case lol.

  • @Enchilada1994
    @Enchilada1994 3 місяці тому +4

    I had better chances of defeating the Demi-Fiend than this guy, and I still got my ass kicked by the Demi-Fiend... In Casual Difficulty!
    Screw my Pride! I'm gonna try to fight them both in Safety Difficulty!

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  3 місяці тому +1

      You can do it on casual, I have faith!

    • @Enchilada1994
      @Enchilada1994 3 місяці тому

      @@jaffinator2166 Well...
      Guess I'll have to keep farming incenses and try a different strategy.

  • @tespenkr9924
    @tespenkr9924 4 місяці тому +3

    Masakado brought the SMTIV BS with his SMTIII design to make SMTV BS design.

  • @donovandabosok5740
    @donovandabosok5740 4 дні тому +1

    Our queen Agrat👅👅

  • @kira64xyz
    @kira64xyz 4 місяці тому +2

    I managed to beat him only after switching my build to paralesene blur dodge tank which borders on complete cheese for this guy (if you get lucky and he doesn’t spam freikugel)

  • @Mad77max77
    @Mad77max77 3 місяці тому +2

    I sont get it, when I fight him he always does minimum 3 Diarama each turn... he heals back to max health and uses his last turns to attack.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Mad77max77 Masakado is very weird sometimes. Sometimes he’ll Diarama 4 times in a row. Other times, he’ll barely use it.

    • @Mad77max77
      @Mad77max77 3 місяці тому

      @@jaffinator2166 I beat him, with only Physical and almighty attacks (+Debilitate and Luster Candy/Gold Apple). So I believe he will use Diarama each time you use an elemental attack. Last time I only did 8 elemental spells each turn, and he healed back to full each turn. When I used only physical he used 1 Diarama max per turn. So it went well :)

  • @Sombrelame
    @Sombrelame 4 місяці тому +4

    masakado crit far less often and do less damage if you don't debuff him
    i found actually this mecanic pretty interesting
    haven't tried super masakado yet but i had fun with regular masakado

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +1

      Yup that’s the most important part of the fight and it’s why Yoko and Beelzebub are perfect for him.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому

      @@Sombrelame also I love how his trait is Crit Rate *4 and Crit damage *2 if he has full buffs. Something that he has no ability to do in this fight 🤣

    • @Sombrelame
      @Sombrelame 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jaffinator2166 you misunderstood
      it's "Crit rate +40% + dmg dealt by crit +10% x number of active effects"
      so debuffing him actually increase it
      full debuff masakado was doing 1500 on a crit on me, while i could survive them if he didn't have anything

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому

      @@Sombrelame hm. Could have sworn the fusion calculator had it the other way last I checked but I did either misread or they changed it. Fusion calculator seems to be in a state of constant updates (they had Panagia Yoko as level 54 at one point).

    • @Sombrelame
      @Sombrelame 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jaffinator2166 the game is still young so it's understandable
      and you don't expect the game to tell you "don't debuff or be ohko"
      anyways, i just wanted point this
      have a nice day

  • @luisfergomez2705
    @luisfergomez2705 4 місяці тому +4

    The true masakado boss is pain xd he did 3 friekugel to my main character xdxd but excelent boss fight i too use my queen agrat jsjsjsjs to finish him off

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому

      @@luisfergomez2705 Agrat, my beloved 💜

  • @manutdfan231
    @manutdfan231 3 місяці тому +2

    When i used spyglass on saw he was weake to everything!? My first thought was "Oh... This guy is gonna fuck me up", and he did indeed wipe my entire team LMFAO. I beat him after 3 tries buy good god he was frightful to fight against! 😂😂😅

  • @ajrgriffiths
    @ajrgriffiths 3 місяці тому +1

    Just taunt and magic reflect on girimekhala and gg. Guard as well when starts using almighty

  • @pottern2296
    @pottern2296 4 місяці тому +4

    May I ask how/why your masakado was so Diarama light? I did it in hard and he spendd almost every turn starting with 2 of them.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +1

      IDK honestly. Sometimes he won’t use it. But then one time I had a turn where he spammed it 4 times in a row. I think it may have something to do with damage but IDK.

    • @dylendye7410
      @dylendye7410 4 місяці тому

      ​@@jaffinator2166so I don't know if you guys have realized but he basically uses Elemental Dragon's. If you use a fire attack he won't use Fire Dragon but instead use Diarama, that's what it looks because I thought the thing we had to do in his fight is take advantage of every element once and he used 5 diaramas in a row

    • @dylendye7410
      @dylendye7410 4 місяці тому

      But that's rhat it looks like I haven't done any hard research. Basically you use Fire he won't use fire. You use elec/zan he won't use elec/zan but replafe them with Diarama

    • @KnightofChaosDeck
      @KnightofChaosDeck 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@dylendye7410 ... Wait, that makes sense!
      I beat him on Normal using a Crit Wrath Tempest MC/Fionn setup and he rarely used Diarama. A couple of times he did but that might have been from Konoha using Agidyne/Zandyne. I wondered why he didn't spam it like in videos!

    • @confirm-okt5480
      @confirm-okt5480 3 місяці тому +2

      The fight is very predictable outside of crits. He does Brave Blade > Fire > Ice > Elec > Force > Light > Dark and then loops. He replaces any elements he took damage from with a Diarama and any element that was nullified in his previous turns with Freikugel (or Recalcitrant Execution after 3rd Magatsuhi). In the event he's trying to cast both Diarama and Freikugel, he will use Diarama instead, allowing you to "parry" accidental nullifications.
      1st Magatsuhi makes him start at Fire
      2nd Magatsuhi makes him start at Ice and memorize the elements last nullified.
      3rd Magatsuhi makes him start at Elec and he will replace his first Freikugel in any turn with Recalcitrant Execution.
      So, for example, let's say you're in his 3rd Magatsuhi phase and you hit him with Phys and Dark damage and the last time you nullified his damage he attacked into null force followed by repel light. His next turn will be Elec > Recalcitrant Execution > Freikugel > Diarama > Diarama. If he gets crits, then he will continue his loop into Fire.

  • @dylendye7410
    @dylendye7410 4 місяці тому +1

    Just beat the normal one 10 min ago, I had luck he didn't crit with his signature move two times lol

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому

      @@dylendye7410 yeah thank goodness he doesn’t have buffs because if he did, that would have totally crit 😭😭😭

  • @dave9515
    @dave9515 4 місяці тому +9

    I despise all of the new bosses and the demifiend buffs. These are more like DPS checks than tough fights. Its more of a cheese or be cheesed. Megiddo Ark is spammed too much. Demifiend can be beaten with repel physical demons sure but his pals all got buffed and himself and if he freikugels most likely you or your allies die. I have yet to see an SMT super boss challenging and fun outside Shiva from COC and YHVH from 4A.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  4 місяці тому +8

      @@dave9515 he’s not really a Superboss by definition but have you fought Trucifer? Because of the nerfs Shiva got, he can be taken at a much lower level now and is actually really hard when fought that way

    • @dave9515
      @dave9515 4 місяці тому +1

      @@jaffinator2166 Not yet but i have seen footage of Trucifer and it looks like they went overboard buffing him as well but he does look fun if you aren't trying to beat him low level. A lot of problems is they took too easy criticism and then over tuned things in response without considering if they were making things difficult. Even some of the skill nerfs make less sense in hindsight given how much broken stuff they added to vengeance. Low level Trucifer is nightmare fuel. On godrborne mode currently because i really wanted to fuse luci and Satan and i have been very mixed about my opinions on vengeance as a game since playing it. I really like the game but there are things that greatly bug me. I guess i expected too much from the game. Playing Vengeance makes me wish i was playing 4A, Strange Journey or an Etrian game instead at times.

    • @mysteryboii4869
      @mysteryboii4869 4 місяці тому +13

      Megido Ark spammed too much? Use Luminescent Mirage since it will trigger Satan to use Megidolaon instead of Megido Ark and for Demi-Fiend he frequently use Friekugel if you party has all Null Phys. Only Masakado is the only bs superboss while the rest are manageable with the right strategy

    • @nandas9952
      @nandas9952 4 місяці тому +2

      im sure Satan is more manageable than Masakado but oh well

    • @TrailCaddy
      @TrailCaddy 4 місяці тому +4

      Masakado is pretty simple if you just use taunt.

  • @zylorixx810
    @zylorixx810 3 місяці тому +1

    Im doing this fight on Godborn someohow Recalcitrant execution does less damage and crits less im more scared of the Crit Freikugel times 4 that one shot ot two shot my party

  • @Findyification
    @Findyification Місяць тому +1

    i beat his ass with no ng+
    just need metatron shield of god

  • @The_Ice_Type_Specialist
    @The_Ice_Type_Specialist 4 місяці тому +1

    Idk what difficulty you played on and all that so take this with a grain of salt, I didn’t think he was that hard, I beat him on my third cycle (got the 2 new endings first) and honestly didn’t struggle much (normal difficulty) I just kinda went in with the Murakumo critical zealot Crystal auto build and was fine. Think I hade Nahobeehoo, Konohana Sakuya and mermaid when I did it? Honestly wasn’t that hard for me

    • @theshape3872
      @theshape3872 3 місяці тому +1

      You just said it
      Normal difficulty
      No disrespect but hard is a big abyss of difference from normal
      Is not just "enemies do more damage"
      Hard is a completely different game

    • @The_Ice_Type_Specialist
      @The_Ice_Type_Specialist 3 місяці тому

      @@theshape3872 yeah I kinda thought so