Because he is a puppet of the rich and powerfull cabal, that actually rules the country. Where do you think he got the millions from that he hid at his farm? Not from Russia or the Arab that conveniently came forward, after months of trying to cover up everything. Now everybody is focussed on Russia, whilst he should be in jail.
Yes, from the Ruperts and Oppenheimers, which groomed him to become their enabler. They also stuffed Mandela full of money and defacto rules, and always has ruled the country. He certainly did not get his money from Russia and Putin. I didn't even listen to this "professor" because his first sentence proved that he is just another US arse licker. The world would be a much better place, were there a few more leaders like Pres. Putin. The reason why Putin is hated, is because he doesn't allow the Global Elites to plunder and rob Russia blind, like they did with South Africa.
The ANC are economic terrorists. They do nothing in the interest of the country. It's always their party and their bank accounts first. This is treason.
Don't you think it's partly because they have no economy to protect. It's the people that are screaming the loudest who have something to lose. The point really being South Africans are devided on economic lines. We can go on about why that is so if you wish...
If you think the Yanks will "help" SA you dreaming, thr ANC is corrupt no doubt, but this is about Russia, if you think the US/UK will bring any kind of benifit to SA you haven't been watching the total carnage destruction and pillaging rampage they have been on during thr last 40 years from Vietnam to Ukraine .. The US will make ANC thieving look like kiddy games
@@menzimngadi6793 Lemme guess, you believe the narrative that whites own the economy. Well you cant own an economy you can only build or add to it. And where does that knowledge stem from? education. Minorities have always been willing to help, but because the ANC destroyed our education system along with everything else, the majority have just been fed the same old racial rhetoric for decades, because they are the only ones who radicalize everything which is just retarded. So 3 decades in and the majority havent been taught how to be self sufficient to the extent minorities are who are probably over a large margin of their populous, educated. You can say education and hard work is just a minorities thing. They think big and understand whats at stake. All in all much of the majority have been poisoned against minorities, thus minorities withdrew because they know at the end of the day, their resources would be squandered and their help, taken for granted. Thus you get what many black people now say, that white people are greedy or thieves or selfish and own the economy. When its actually in response to what the majority have become. Entitled arrogant children who make demands, willing to burn everything to get their way, and they call it "justice for the past" If they want change, they need to start listening to white people and stop making them their enemy. Nothing but children who think they can tell the adults how the world works.
Definitely party first, party lastly, I would say ramaprick is a real communist bastard, all us sane south Africans condemned the attack on the Ukraine, they got the money from the russkies, they can't pay their salaries of the their 😅anc staff and they have a writ of execution against them now as well, for R150million
Please all people of South Africa... vote the ANC out so that the poor can be uplifted, the unemployed can get jobs and the homeless, homes! They are NOT interested in you and me, only in themselves. May God save this country from the selfish ANC! Ramaphosa is a two-faced person. Thank you for an eye openining interview with Prof Croukamp.
From the book 'Toxic Charity' :"Give once and you elicit appreciation. Give twice and you create anticipation. Give three times and you create expectation. Give four times and it creates entitlement. Give five times and you establish dependency. " I assume that the ANC have received more than 5 times from Russia causing ANC dependency on Russia.
Indeed ironic. Russia helped the apartheid struggle with arms in their struggle to freedom to be part of the system. They have been part of the system and now declare a silent war, in the name of freedom. Do these people truly know what it is to be in a marxist system? Is this true freedom? A very old saying, rather know the devil you know, than the devil you dont. Should this happen my heart saddens to those who were fighting for freedom. For the dissapointment towards all the unecessary bloodshed and lives lost, most the feeling of betrayal, and mostest the lost years in their lives that could have been spend on positive things such as building our economy. Hopefully I will be gone to witness this, as this is not something anyone can stomache.
BRICS. Initially consisted of 5 countries of which S.A is just one and so is Russia. That alone says something doesn't it? Its called loyalty. There will be huge embarrassment and red faces coming.
I met bra Cyril in 2004. He bought around 40% of the company I worked for. At the meet & greet, someone asked him if he'd ever go back into politics. He said no, he wanted to rather focus on his business interests. Then he became president and I thought, huh, guess he got back into politics. But I think it's clear now that he's actually still focusing on his business interests.
and the saddest of this ---people on the ground do not understand the consequences for themselves ----when asked who will they vote for next year------and that is people with a good education ------they will vote ANC AGAIN!!WHY??? because they get grants!!!
There is nothing illogical about looking after the goose that laid their golden egg and is their benefactor helping to keep them in power which no other country has/is doing! The ANC politicians only care about their survival and most definitely not South Africa’s which is their downfall. The ANC is a sinking ship taking the economy , infrastructure and livelihoods of many citizens in SA with their maladministration and anti-business and anti-investment disastrous policies and laws.
To the extent that the decision to do so does not have implications for us and others. The point is that there is a war that must be stopped and you don't do that by disarming one of the parties. You stop the shooting and create space for a genuine seize fire.
Are you implying that Russia is keeping the ANC in power? Wake up and look no further than in South Africa, for the 3 families which actually rule the country.
Show me where the ANC progressed in anything, and I'll show you an elephant that can fly ! Not long ago the ANC was in the bush ! They still like being in the bush !
Wow Ramaphosa and ANC are playing chicken with the future of this country, all because they couldnt manage their finances properly (paying taxes, salaries etc). Now they owe loyalty to their Russian donors. This is disgusting
The West and in particular the US is at fault with the Ukraine war. Not popular or widely known, but true. That said, supporting Russia is not in South Africa's economic interests. SA having neutral stance would have been a better approach. The rumored sale of arms was likely an unlawful 'off the books' transaction and a violation of weapons treaties, but was done because it likley enriched some comrades rather than promoted national interests.
Lets wait to hear the true facts. The US is known for using false propaganda to destabilise countries not toeing the line. Clearly the US has used this bully tactic throughout history. I question whether an arms sale would be any violation if it was signed off prior to the illegal sanctions by the US UK EU.
No mention about what Russia wants from the ANC. Obviously, this is about resources. And possibly using Cape Town as a base for accessing Antarctic resources. A process and partnership that is already well underway
Piet is 100% correct. This is the perfect example of how the ANC puts its own interests ahead of the country’s interests. When the electorate finally realises this to a fuller extent, the ANC and its even worse spawn, the EFF, will be vanquished from the political landscape and then finally, South Africa will be allowed to emerge and start moving toward achieving its huge potential. The question is how much damage will be done between now and then.
Ands which party is going to be doing that pray tell? Neoliberals who don't have any ideology beyond private sector profit? I guess the question is we think the ANC's incompetent neoliberalism will be worse than the DA's competent destruction of the public sector that still supports some life for the majority of South Africans.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 No party will do that. Ultimately a centrist leaning, classically liberal coalition would be the most likely government to introduce the necessary reforms. The unshackled private sector will do it. Classical liberalism has produced the best there is in an imperfect world. The huge public sector that you hold so dear is part of the problem. Of the 169 000 net new jobs created in South Africa last year, 167 000 were in the DA governed Western Cape. There is a reason for that, the very policies your message speaks of with such disdain. Why do socialists hate the poor so much? Why do they want to keep them as prisoners, dependent on the State? It is a fact that thriving, growing economies are what primarily support economic life, not governments. Regulated free markets and investment friendly principles are what drive economic growth. Marxism is for thieves, the Carl Niehaus’ of this world. The end of the marxist, leftist influence on South Africa is beginning to accelerate. Its demise is inevitable and already under way. Those who promote it are either kleptocrats as we have in government, or what time and again prove to be bitter, twisted, uncharitable individuals who live their lives in a constant display of double standards, speak of the needs of the poor but who wouldnt part with a penny of their own money, while condemning the the givers out there. Vanquishing the left will liberate the South African economy and bring about even more social and economic upliftment than what we saw in the first decade post 1994. The ANC should be given credit for the fiscal responsibility of the Mbeki era, as should our current reserve bank governor and other notable exceptions. But the era of leftist dominance will inevitably come to a merciful close.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 dont worry there wil be almost no children born soon lgbtq will make sure about that. Kom in laers. Ons is gedoem buite n Gods wonder vir sy uitverkore volk.
@@018Greg Don't know much about M'beki.He along with Dr. Beetroot are responsible of the deaths of thousands of South Africans due to their lack of an AIDS policy.Zuma, the less said the better.Squirrel,being his vice president for many years is blind,stupid or following in the footsteps of corrupt Zuma.I suspect the later.Where is the $4000 case now? As always swept under the carpet.
Ukraine is a European war . What are poor Africans doing in this ? Africans got billions of problems on the continent . Why can NATO not go to Moscow and arrest Putin ? NATO should not transfer its failure to destroy Russia to BRICS weakest link South Africa to arrest Putin - a job America and it's NATO slaves cannot solve
Nothing illogical about this obsession with Russia (and China)... Russia and China will gladly pay billions of dollars in bribes to get what they want...The US won't. Ramaphosa and the rest of the ANC criminals are only in politics for the money. They do not care about ideology, moolla for the couch is what counts in ANC land....
I am not sure I agree about your statement on ideology. Following Communism will give them absolute power which is what they want. The rest of us will all be serfs earning a pittance from the ANC Oligarchs.
The ANC openly puts the ANC ahead of South Africa, and yet "nearly half the country" still votes for them - half the voting part of the country, anyway. That's unfortunately the real problem here. When the consequences of that take their final shape, "we" will get what we deserve. (Unfortunately the half of the country that has already woken up will suffer, too.) I suspect (this is just mistrust) that if the ANC lose the next elections, they'll cook the books and give themselves a "51%" majority (going up to say 66.7% in the next elections after these). Failing that, they'll engineer something along the lines of a coup d'etat. They're only going to go along with this democracy thing while the country is stupid enough to vote for them. Maybe I'm wrong. My suspicions are not impossibilities, but they're not facts. (Possibly even a bigger problem is those whose disgust with the ANC is expressed by not voting. A lot of low voter turnout is really a vote against the ANC, only those voters are afraid to take a chance on someone else. This is closer to actual fact, because I know a few people who have told me this is how they act. If I could find some oligarch to fund the research I could maybe test whether there's anything in this supposition.) We need change, but too many people are too stupid to realize that, and those who are not are too timid to try something new.
Sad. But true. This is the mother of all mothers representing true colonialism that will be the future of sa. No more taxes, no more jobs, no more businesses.....all given away on a platter for another countries people to benifit and pick all the fruits. Like dlamini zuma said during covid....people will die like flies. Many lives are going to be lost. You will own nothing but happy to be alive.
Prof Piet you are correct in everyway.That is why this coming election is vitally important.South Africans must make a concerted effort to vote out the ANC . Please do not cry afterwards when the West and the USA disinvest and we ordinary people are unemployed and stand at the robots.... Putin is just as his namesake Rasputin
Perhaps that's the divide in the democratic Republic of SA One section of the population prefers ro protect economic interest while the other chooses political interests and two cannot seem find common ground.
The dictator countries are pulling the wool over Africa’s eyes. Show me a as a black man, where all the opportunities are for other ethnic groups in Russia and China. Very different story for democratic countries. The anc has party interests only and that’s not good for African citizens.
Democratic countries doesn't exist... go listen to the full speech of president of Mexico... These democratic countries still owns Iraqi oil fields, Syrian Oil fields after millions were killed by them or their proxies in these countries... Even Trump himselves talks about the deep State swamp who controls the West... Russia don't own mines in Africa, They don't own lands etc... Most mines are owned by European, American and Chinese... So what are you talking about?
As always with the ANC it's all down to corruption and corruption and corruption... Where do the ANC crooks get their funding from????? The Russians have got the ANC in their pocket..
We want to be independent that's all what this is about, we are already poor, there is nothing to lose. The people who are rich are only few so it is time for change. We are tired of the west and white people in this country bullying us around. If we must suffer then that is fine we are suffering already.
This country was once the best in the world. The ANC destroyed it beyond repair, everybody know about this heart breaking truth. Prof, Sir, with all respect, tell the people the truth and not just about sentiments and obsessions.
Let's be honest here. Ramaphosa cannot handle this country anymore. He must retire and go and rest. He will take wrong decicions that will cause huge problems for its country and people. We want a sharp, honest and go getter president. Black , brown and white all of our South Africans, and make it one of the best in the world again.
To summaries: the countries welfare is secondary to the ANC's survival as a party. To hell with anti-Russian westerners but don't ditch our preferential trade agreements on the other hand. Insane!
Beautifully said Piet!. Good observation about ANC bills. It is amazing to witness that sanity seems to prevail among the non-politicised middle-class. There is hope. We need to get these idiots out of public office
The answer is quite simple. Putin is one of most richest dictators on earth. How he got the money is anyones guess. He is no businessman . So where did he get his money. So it is no mystery why the ANC and EFF love the guy. They can smell the money and just following it. Thay give a shit about the Sheep,they can eat the grass.
So you also believe the lies hollywood fed you? President Putin did more for Russia, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, than any other President on this planet ever did for their countries. South Africa should have been the richest country in the world, but where did the wealth disappear to, Russia? The world is waking up, seeing the West for what it actualy is, a war mongering, unscrupulous evil entity, hellbent to rule the wole world.
@@nelsonchinasamy9857 yet you don't call the unelected dictators in the EU , the US UK and the puppet in Ukraine who bans religion and language Dictators...then we clearly know you've drunken way too much koolaid. Ramaposa is just a useless puppet I give you that but far from dictator.
The great hope is this...there is a difference between Russia and it's politics...it is wise to isolate political parties from nation states. There is a difference between the policy of the communist party and it's followers and the Russian people in total. Not all German s were Nazis...not all Chinese agree with the role of the PLA. It is critical to understand that in every nation there are people of faith and the book. I am Zimbabwean...and in the majority are those like in South Africa of deep faith. We will overcome...our work is to bring as many as we can with us . Zimbabweans said no to another war. We face down Zanu Of with humility and patience..such things are of great value..there are Russians and South Africans who stand in a non violent way also..we will prevail.
The ANC is a lost cause ... even for their own supporters !! Cyril, the SAfrican destructor for sure ..... where is Rob Hershov these days ?? .... liked his approach but now he has gone quiet on us ???? !!! has the ANC got to him perhaps ??
I totally agree with professor Croucamp, and Russia didn’t get to play host when the ANC was elected and now they can play a role in keeping the ANC in power, another thumbs up to the west and of course the ANC is just so stupid that they will be lead by these evil people with no scruples of destroying our beautiful country😢😢😢
America is keeping the ANC in power because they are useless and will facilitate an American takeover of our resources as per American playbook with Maidan style insurrection and coups, or as per colour revolution.
Please explain to South Africans the real reason(s) why Russian Federation is so loved. How much do they invest to South Africa. This insignificant country,,? Maybe South Africa love the fact that most criminal acts are as a result of Russian Weapons.
When it was announced that Africa could 2 F1 races in the future calculations were made. IN 2008, Durban hosted an A1 race, brought in an estimated R220 lmillion, and attracted 100,000 fans. This was in 2008. 100 000 other fans were also watching. And consider that a large amount woud come from tourists. Imagine what it could have been now. However the authorities that be decided that South Africa will be boycotted as a result of its closeness with Russia
The political and ideological devide in RSA is dangerous. It is apparent that a certain a section of our population is antagonizing the democratic government even if it takes the country down. Very disturbing
@@vigourboost8316 My point is really on race relations and economic and political interests of South Africans. Is it not striking that all the faces criticizing government on its position on the war in Ukraine are white and those agreeing with government are black
More disturbing is the massive corruption infesting every level in the ruling party. They cannot think past their stomachs and they still somehow convince their voters they care about them.
@@menzimngadi6793 Because the majority is the least educated, and much of their decisions is based on skewed historical events and past traumas, with 29 years of racial rhetoric. Need i make an example? Just over a hundred years ago much of the African populous were still living in the wild, while Europeans, Asian, English, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese were all already sailing across the sea, before that 2000 years of Vast empires, wars, and technological advancement. You see the difference? its not a superiority things its an evolution thing. Now Africans around here wanna tell whites whats what? The only ones here who do considered history and self educate the most are minorities. I can walk out my front door and not a single African person i talk to would know any fking thing about the history of South Africa let alone Africa, or Europe, some dont even know what the second world war is. We need black people to stop racializing, shutting the fk up, and listening. Because all we hear is bitching and moaning. You think we arnt aware of what you are all saying? We know, the reason we dont go onto the topic is because its not factual or serves any practical purpose. When the majority grows mature enough to admit its wrong, to admit what its done to this country, then you might get some respect from whites.
@@menzimngadi6793 PERFECT QUESTION! Except that your focus on race is the wrong focus, this obsession to the exclusion of all rationality is killing this country. Here is the problem: 1. apartheid caused the problem by saying - only white people are allowed to be capitalist, blacks must be cheap working class labour. Don’t confuse this with race. 2. The ANC staggeringly, agrees with apartheid and continues this!!! Whites are capitalist, therefore capitalism is bad and we will attack WMC - The worst mistake in the world when there were already too few capitalists creating wealth and opportunities!!! This is why we are getting poorer and more stressed, because that is what comrade socialism delivers. Even more economically destructive policies hurting the poor worst, STILL based on angry racism.
You are making the point that SA is in the pocket of the west, no matter what strategic blunders they make, for example, goading the Russians to protect the ethnic Russians in the Donbas through their special military operation.
Absolutely true. Russia is fighting to stop the Kiev terrorists from killing their own people. Putin is right. Piet wants Zelensky to keep killing people in the Donbass.
Can you explain this, i am new to uk 2004 , i do door to door sales in St John’s Wood Weybridge Surrey , i come to a property with guys sitting elevated at the entrance with ak47 OR the russian version of semi automatic, i know gins are banned here in uk. I tell them what i am there for, they are Russian guys and holding guns and kind of telling me to move on, later i find out that many oligarchs fled Russia with loads of money , they come to uk.they are protected, WHY?????????
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 Tokyo Sexwale was himself trained in Ukraine, and said so on SABC on 28 Feb 2022. From the website South African History Onilne: "Tambo visited the USSR again in October, and because the number of recruits had increased significantly, training was moved to a larger facility in the city of Odessa in the Ukraine. The first group arrived in November 1963, and they were joined by a larger group that included Joe Modise (known as Thabo More) and Moses Mabhida, who was recalled from the World Federation of Trade Unions (WFTU) headquarters in Prague. Between 1963 and 1965, 328 cadres were trained at Odessa." No lies. Ukrainians helped this country to be free.
The uninformed has Russiaphobia and are still clinging to the sinking ship of the unipolar world. You will have nothing and be happy.....Klaus Schwab. The ANC still clings to Russia for the wrong reasons, communism there is dead, Putin hates it and the EFF is oblivious of it. We should increase our trade with the multipolar world and drop the tanking Dollar. The West is facing a difficult time. Our problem is the ANC pays grants to people who never paid tax their whole life while unemployment is ridiculously high, too many jobsworth cadres are being over paid so their isn't enough funds coming in. Btw, I won't be surprise if the Lady R's load is what paid for the ANC's campaign and xtra funds.
I agree with you on everything but I think we need to maintain our relationship with Russia because one way or another we gonna have to brake the American chains
There is no accounting for intellectuals' irrational obsessions. Perhaps prof is obsessed with Russia. The collective west makes up 13% of the world population. The rest of the 85% are starting to make deals with Russia. Because America is a dying empire and also a sanction obsessed global terrorist. I detest the ANC, but in the light of the falling dollar and hegemonic USA empire, I don't think they have an unusual obsession with Russia. Someone here says "follow the money". Popular meme. So have you followed the money? You think America is not paying ANC and Ramaphosa?
@@cherylvandermeulen6897 You need to get politically educated beyond your blinkered, limited experience of "handouts". I assume if you knew more you would have said it. Besides, you probably mean handouts to black people, the very people who get up at 4/5 in the morning, sit in traffic for an hour+ to come and clean your house, keep your garden pristine, cook your meals in restaurants, clean the streets and public toilets, look after your children...I'm sure you can add to the list. Why don't you ask these people to do their own dirty jobs?
@@cherylvandermeulen6897 the west cares about nobody hence they killed Gaddafi and Saddam. All they want is to conquer weak countries and take over their mineral resources. So don't be blinded by your hate for the Anc
For someone as brilliant as prof, I cannot understand his lack of insight into the global shift. The West are becoming a stench. BRICS is the way forward, hence the preoccupation with Russia.
Ah but did you take into account that by partnering with BRICKS nations we invite more corruption into our political environment. Because many of these countries are the most corrupt human rights violators out there, and you want them to be able to walk freely on South African soil? The west isnt perfect either, but id sooner be neutral, and we govern this nation by our own terms. We have had enough injustice.
because Russia is a free country and our politicians in the Anc have understood what NATO's criminal agenda is. Ukraine is a state which is corrupt to the core. its fully under Biden control. The west has lied and never wanted to honor the Minsk agreement
Wow there buddy, might i add that you need to start doing as much research into Russia as you clearly did the west. Do that, then come back here and see if you can put the word Free and Russia in the same sentence. U tebya der'mo v glazakh.
ANC and most African leaders support Russian because African leaders are mafia and whatever they do, no one will ask them. second most of the South African mine Russians have shares in South Africa and some parts of Africa. their taking most of their illegal business with Dubai and Russia
@@pietersteenkamp5241 the west never terrorize Africa. we should tell the truth about history. The American bring peace. without America in this world, they will never be peace. it will be one man and his family's rules forever.
Whats the DA's obsession with supporting the US , UK and European Union . We now know the US caused the problems in Ukraine by Nato expansion, contravening biological weapons convevention and the supporting of Far right Nazis in Ukraine. Russia is on the right side of history in this case. THE USA is unfortunately the guilty party stoking the fire of war instead of seeking peace.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 maybe you're late to the party. SA have not diversified it's trade so that it's not at the mercy of the western elites. That meant increased trade with BRICS and Asian and South American countries. Free aid and tax exemptions come with conditions and these imperialist countries will skin you bare.
There is no accounting for intellectuals' irrational obsessions. Perhaps prof is obsessed with Russia. The collective west makes up 13% of the world population. The rest of the 85% are starting to make deals with Russia. Because America is a dying empire and also a sanction obsessed global terrorist. I detest the ANC, but in the light of the falling dollar and hegemonic USA empire, I don't think they have an unusual obsession with Russia. Someone here says "follow the money". Popular meme. So have you followed the money? You think America is not paying ANC and Ramaphosa?
WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT 🙄. "Comrade loyalty...what are you going to do?" 😅😅😅. At no time are you or your children's future ever thought of by any ANC member ever. 😢😢😢. This has got everything to do with greed and power and debts that are not South Africans to pay. Wake up!!!! 😂😂. It's only your children's future at stake. What are you going to do about it 🤔? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
Why ANC a political party who use state money as it's owned .in ather party you can trust some but not in the ANC form the President down to minister toilet and MBALULA is worse.
The EFF is very forward thinking, We don't have white capital telling us what to do, how to articulate our position, we have a vibrant ,young, educated and patriotic leadership, that has the interests of our people at heart.
I bet you cant tell that to the Jews to forget about the holocaust,you cant tell Rwanda to forget about a genocide that they suffered,you cant tell the Congolese to forget about King Leopold maiming of 10 million citizens in their country, but you want us to, you can find the nearest hell
@@garthfitzpatrick2316 You want us to forget that 75% of the land in South Africa is owned by the minority? The natural resources are split between the minority and foreign owners, that black people dont own anything in their ancestral lands, we should bow down and accept this evil status quo, come on.
Vekselgberg' interest in the ANC is certainly not ideological, he's big bros with Netanyahu and Len Blavatnick who is a major Republican Party donor. Probably just trying to get around sanctions and needs the ANC to turn a blind eye.
The ANC is a criminal organization being funded by a inhumane, criminal network of Oligarchs, having devastating affects on our already weakened economy
Viktor Felixovich Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born Russian-Israeli-Cypriot oligarch, billionaire, and businessman. He is the owner and president of Renova Group, a Russian conglomerate. According to Forbes, as of November 2021, his fortune is estimated at $9.3 billion, making him the 262nd richest person in the world.
I am no longer a south african. Not while the ANC is in charge. Nothing they do is appropriate in any way. But then again, it fits in with their communist ideology....
Both "superpowers" are (ab)using smaller countries -in our case via a corrupt/useless ruling party that cares about itself, not the country. However, US sanctions are not UN sanctioned -they are plain blackmail.
The world is changing. The cold War ended in 1990 with the fall of communism Leave Putin alone. He is cleaning up the LBTQXYZ ++ Agenda of the Western World who has clearly lost the plot. We are part of the BRICKS alliance and gold backed currency. The ANC might certainly be a total disgrace - but Leave Putin alone.
We love Russians as well. Russian tourists are BIG spenders in Cape Town area. The tourist operators, helicopter charting, car rental companies are not complaining!
Car manufactury companies in South Africa are Foreign car manufactury companies..Germany, France, China, United States, Britain ect....We need to have an open discussions on this matter, Why DA White people in general in South Africa have also so much Love for Western??? Countries...
When 2 man are fighting how will you seperate the man to stop fighting...Will you hung up the White Flak .represent and encourage Peace or will you provide a knife to one that represent and encourage killing...and is for self defence.... .United States & NATO are quilty of war crimes...
Why is there this persistent lie that says Ramaphosa is innocent and doesn't know what is going on. He is complicit.
Because he is a puppet of the rich and powerfull cabal, that actually rules the country. Where do you think he got the millions from that he hid at his farm? Not from Russia or the Arab that conveniently came forward, after months of trying to cover up everything. Now everybody is focussed on Russia, whilst he should be in jail.
He's the orchestra conductor when NDZ says t's okay
Ramaphosa is an oligarch.
He got his money from being a member of the ANC and favoritism in BEE
Yes, from the Ruperts and Oppenheimers, which groomed him to become their enabler. They also stuffed Mandela full of money and defacto rules, and always has ruled the country. He certainly did not get his money from Russia and Putin. I didn't even listen to this "professor" because his first sentence proved that he is just another US arse licker. The world would be a much better place, were there a few more leaders like Pres. Putin. The reason why Putin is hated, is because he doesn't allow the Global Elites to plunder and rob Russia blind, like they did with South Africa.
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Just remember in South Africa that's a hero
No not from ANC. but from ANGLO-AMERICAN
MR NICK RILEY. Choose him.
Worse that that he is a weak fool.
The ANC are economic terrorists. They do nothing in the interest of the country. It's always their party and their bank accounts first. This is treason.
Don't you think it's partly because they have no economy to protect. It's the people that are screaming the loudest who have something to lose. The point really being South Africans are devided on economic lines. We can go on about why that is so if you wish...
@@menzimngadi6793 Here it comes...
If you think the Yanks will "help" SA you dreaming, thr ANC is corrupt no doubt, but this is about Russia, if you think the US/UK will bring any kind of benifit to SA you haven't been watching the total carnage destruction and pillaging rampage they have been on during thr last 40 years from Vietnam to Ukraine .. The US will make ANC thieving look like kiddy games
@@alexitselentis7904 yeah troll
@@menzimngadi6793 Lemme guess, you believe the narrative that whites own the economy. Well you cant own an economy you can only build or add to it. And where does that knowledge stem from? education. Minorities have always been willing to help, but because the ANC destroyed our education system along with everything else, the majority have just been fed the same old racial rhetoric for decades, because they are the only ones who radicalize everything which is just retarded. So 3 decades in and the majority havent been taught how to be self sufficient to the extent minorities are who are probably over a large margin of their populous, educated. You can say education and hard work is just a minorities thing. They think big and understand whats at stake.
All in all much of the majority have been poisoned against minorities, thus minorities withdrew because they know at the end of the day, their resources would be squandered and their help, taken for granted. Thus you get what many black people now say, that white people are greedy or thieves or selfish and own the economy. When its actually in response to what the majority have become. Entitled arrogant children who make demands, willing to burn everything to get their way, and they call it "justice for the past" If they want change, they need to start listening to white people and stop making them their enemy.
Nothing but children who think they can tell the adults how the world works.
Party first, country a very distant second.
Definitely party first, party lastly, I would say ramaprick is a real communist bastard, all us sane south Africans condemned the attack on the Ukraine, they got the money from the russkies, they can't pay their salaries of the their 😅anc staff and they have a writ of execution against them now as well, for R150million
Wallet first, party second, country third.
Bankrupt ANC is being funded by Russia . They have sold their soul .
What? Do you actually believe the crap you wrote?
The moment I hear early morning activity at Waterkloof Airbase, I know the ANC is up to no good again.
Please all people of South Africa... vote the ANC out so that the poor can be uplifted, the unemployed can get jobs and the homeless, homes!
They are NOT interested in you and me, only in themselves.
May God save this country from the selfish ANC! Ramaphosa is a two-faced person.
Thank you for an eye openining interview with Prof Croukamp.
From the book 'Toxic Charity' :"Give once and you elicit appreciation. Give twice and you create anticipation. Give three times and you create expectation. Give four times and it creates entitlement.
Give five times and you establish dependency. "
I assume that the ANC have received more than 5 times from Russia causing ANC dependency on Russia.
You understand
Assisted
Exactly they been bribed by the Russians and Chinese too much so they are now in debt.. they’re going to steal south’s Africans land to pay it back..
Indeed ironic. Russia helped the apartheid struggle with arms in their struggle to freedom to be part of the system. They have been part of the system and now declare a silent war, in the name of freedom. Do these people truly know what it is to be in a marxist system? Is this true freedom? A very old saying, rather know the devil you know, than the devil you dont. Should this happen my heart saddens to those who were fighting for freedom. For the dissapointment towards all the unecessary bloodshed and lives lost, most the feeling of betrayal, and mostest the lost years in their lives that could have been spend on positive things such as building our economy. Hopefully I will be gone to witness this, as this is not something anyone can stomache.
ANC dont wait for 2/3rd times. They simply think they are entitled.
The problem in south Africa is not the ANC it is the people who vote for the ANC .
BRICS. Initially consisted of 5 countries of which S.A is just one and so is Russia. That alone says something doesn't it? Its called loyalty.
There will be huge embarrassment and red faces coming.
I met bra Cyril in 2004. He bought around 40% of the company I worked for. At the meet & greet, someone asked him if he'd ever go back into politics. He said no, he wanted to rather focus on his business interests. Then he became president and I thought, huh, guess he got back into politics. But I think it's clear now that he's actually still focusing on his business interests.
Be that as may be, but how narrow minded can he be. Is Russia his only market?
He can make much more money being in a goverment were corruption is the rule.
You must always make sure that you hold on to your wallet and watch when meeting someone from the anc !
Squirrel and his goons can't even run the ANC never mind the country.
Nor can they run a bath without instruction.
You are not wrong there. That is they they couldn't even pay their staff.
and the saddest of this ---people on the ground do not understand the consequences for themselves ----when asked who will they vote for next year------and that is people with a good education ------they will vote ANC AGAIN!!WHY??? because they get grants!!!
Without electricity nothing will matter.
There is nothing illogical about looking after the goose that laid their golden egg and is their benefactor helping to keep them in power which no other country has/is doing! The ANC politicians only care about their survival and most definitely not South Africa’s which is their downfall. The ANC is a sinking ship taking the economy , infrastructure and livelihoods of many citizens in SA with their maladministration and anti-business and anti-investment disastrous policies and laws.
Well ssid!!!!
To the extent that the decision to do so does not have implications for us and others. The point is that there is a war that must be stopped and you don't do that by disarming one of the parties. You stop the shooting and create space for a genuine seize fire.
Are you implying that Russia is keeping the ANC in power? Wake up and look no further than in South Africa, for the 3 families which actually rule the country.
Boo, hoo hoo. Stop crying and dreaming.
Show me where the ANC progressed in anything, and I'll show you an elephant that can fly ! Not long ago the ANC was in the bush ! They still like being in the bush !
Sa wants American funding like loafers but has audacity to be opinionated on the global market
Wow Ramaphosa and ANC are playing chicken with the future of this country, all because they couldnt manage their finances properly (paying taxes, salaries etc). Now they owe loyalty to their Russian donors. This is disgusting
The ANC are incompetent and no businessmen worth his salt won’t put a red cent into SA.
The West and in particular the US is at fault with the Ukraine war. Not popular or widely known, but true.
That said, supporting Russia is not in South Africa's economic interests. SA having neutral stance would have been a better approach. The rumored sale of arms was likely an unlawful 'off the books' transaction and a violation of weapons treaties, but was done because it likley enriched some comrades rather than promoted national interests.
Lets wait to hear the true facts. The US is known for using false propaganda to destabilise countries not toeing the line. Clearly the US has used this bully tactic throughout history. I question whether an arms sale would be any violation if it was signed off prior to the illegal sanctions by the US UK EU.
South Africa is a kleptocracy. Our mistake is believing we live in a democracy.
That is what russia wants. Big poverty base with corrupt elite.
No mention about what Russia wants from the ANC. Obviously, this is about resources. And possibly using Cape Town as a base for accessing Antarctic resources. A process and partnership that is already well underway
Piet is 100% correct. This is the perfect example of how the ANC puts its own interests ahead of the country’s interests. When the electorate finally realises this to a fuller extent, the ANC and its even worse spawn, the EFF, will be vanquished from the political landscape and then finally, South Africa will be allowed to emerge and start moving toward achieving its huge potential. The question is how much damage will be done between now and then.
Ands which party is going to be doing that pray tell? Neoliberals who don't have any ideology beyond private sector profit? I guess the question is we think the ANC's incompetent neoliberalism will be worse than the DA's competent destruction of the public sector that still supports some life for the majority of South Africans.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 No party will do that. Ultimately a centrist leaning, classically liberal coalition would be the most likely government to introduce the necessary reforms. The unshackled private sector will do it. Classical liberalism has produced the best there is in an imperfect world. The huge public sector that you hold so dear is part of the problem. Of the 169 000 net new jobs created in South Africa last year, 167 000 were in the DA governed Western Cape. There is a reason for that, the very policies your message speaks of with such disdain. Why do socialists hate the poor so much? Why do they want to keep them as prisoners, dependent on the State? It is a fact that thriving, growing economies are what primarily support economic life, not governments. Regulated free markets and investment friendly principles are what drive economic growth. Marxism is for thieves, the Carl Niehaus’ of this world. The end of the marxist, leftist influence on South Africa is beginning to accelerate. Its demise is inevitable and already under way. Those who promote it are either kleptocrats as we have in government, or what time and again prove to be bitter, twisted, uncharitable individuals who live their lives in a constant display of double standards, speak of the needs of the poor but who wouldnt part with a penny of their own money, while condemning the the givers out there. Vanquishing the left will liberate the South African economy and bring about even more social and economic upliftment than what we saw in the first decade post 1994. The ANC should be given credit for the fiscal responsibility of the Mbeki era, as should our current reserve bank governor and other notable exceptions. But the era of leftist dominance will inevitably come to a merciful close.
Whites Europeans in South Africa living out of touch with realities dude this is not Europe
@@pietersteenkamp5241 dont worry there wil be almost no children born soon lgbtq will make sure about that. Kom in laers. Ons is gedoem buite n Gods wonder vir sy uitverkore volk.
@@018Greg Don't know much about M'beki.He along with Dr. Beetroot are responsible of the deaths of thousands of South Africans due to their lack of an AIDS policy.Zuma, the less said the better.Squirrel,being his vice president for many years is blind,stupid or following in the footsteps of corrupt Zuma.I suspect the later.Where is the $4000 case now? As always swept under the carpet.
Ukraine is a European war . What are poor Africans doing in this ? Africans got billions of problems on the continent . Why can NATO not go to Moscow and arrest Putin ? NATO should not transfer its failure to destroy Russia to BRICS weakest link South Africa to arrest Putin - a job America and it's NATO slaves cannot solve
If we get sanctioned and I cannot access my bank accounts because VISA and Matercard stops their systems, I will riot even by myself
You might as well burn the place down because it has all gone to shit anyway.
Cyril and cadres are establishing an escape to Russia when all else falls apart. I am cheering them already for the surprise they will get there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe they should go to Gaza.
Or Iran.
A few months ago they couldn’t even pay salaries….
All about the Cape Sea Route both the West and East want to control it
Nothing illogical about this obsession with Russia (and China)... Russia and China will gladly pay billions of dollars in bribes to get what they want...The US won't. Ramaphosa and the rest of the ANC criminals are only in politics for the money. They do not care about ideology, moolla for the couch is what counts in ANC land....
I am not sure I agree about your statement on ideology. Following Communism will give them absolute power which is what they want. The rest of us will all be serfs earning a pittance from the ANC Oligarchs.
@@lorrainebotha5293 They are not communists... I assure you, the only "ideology" they have is one of self enrichment
ANC clearly does not act in the best interests of SA and it’s citizens. It looks after its own interests first.
That’s how Putin works, they are teaching the ANC how to do,
The ANC openly puts the ANC ahead of South Africa, and yet "nearly half the country" still votes for them - half the voting part of the country, anyway. That's unfortunately the real problem here. When the consequences of that take their final shape, "we" will get what we deserve. (Unfortunately the half of the country that has already woken up will suffer, too.)
I suspect (this is just mistrust) that if the ANC lose the next elections, they'll cook the books and give themselves a "51%" majority (going up to say 66.7% in the next elections after these). Failing that, they'll engineer something along the lines of a coup d'etat. They're only going to go along with this democracy thing while the country is stupid enough to vote for them.
Maybe I'm wrong. My suspicions are not impossibilities, but they're not facts.
(Possibly even a bigger problem is those whose disgust with the ANC is expressed by not voting. A lot of low voter turnout is really a vote against the ANC, only those voters are afraid to take a chance on someone else. This is closer to actual fact, because I know a few people who have told me this is how they act. If I could find some oligarch to fund the research I could maybe test whether there's anything in this supposition.)
We need change, but too many people are too stupid to realize that, and those who are not are too timid to try something new.
You are spot on.Having millions of uneducated masses does not brode well for the future of this country.
Sad. But true. This is the mother of all mothers representing true colonialism that will be the future of sa. No more taxes, no more jobs, no more businesses.....all given away on a platter for another countries people to benifit and pick all the fruits. Like dlamini zuma said during covid....people will die like flies. Many lives are going to be lost. You will own nothing but happy to be alive.
Sa is so devided on all fronts Rainbow nation se gat
Prof Piet you are correct in everyway.That is why this coming election is vitally important.South Africans must make a concerted effort to vote out the ANC . Please do not cry afterwards when the West and the USA disinvest and we ordinary people are unemployed and stand at the robots.... Putin is just as his namesake Rasputin
It exposes the Communist Agenda of the ANC. Not welcome in Democratic SA!!!
Illogical to us, logical to them. They depend on Russian funding for their political survival.
Perhaps that's the divide in the democratic Republic of SA One section of the population prefers ro protect economic interest while the other chooses political interests and two cannot seem find common ground.
The dictator countries are pulling the wool over Africa’s eyes. Show me a as a black man, where all the opportunities are for other ethnic groups in Russia and China. Very different story for democratic countries. The anc has party interests only and that’s not good for African citizens.
Not only are you a blackman but you are a blackman with a settler's surname.
Democratic countries doesn't exist... go listen to the full speech of president of Mexico... These democratic countries still owns Iraqi oil fields, Syrian Oil fields after millions were killed by them or their proxies in these countries... Even Trump himselves talks about the deep State swamp who controls the West... Russia don't own mines in Africa, They don't own lands etc... Most mines are owned by European, American and Chinese... So what are you talking about?
As always with the ANC it's all down to corruption and corruption and corruption... Where do the ANC crooks get their funding from????? The Russians have got the ANC in their pocket..
MK aswell
Ja man, kyk hoe is die Rand in sy moer.
Dankie ANC julle tros SA goed op
Rand is declining coz south Africa wants to be independent
We want to be independent that's all what this is about, we are already poor, there is nothing to lose. The people who are rich are only few so it is time for change. We are tired of the west and white people in this country bullying us around. If we must suffer then that is fine we are suffering already.
This country was once the best in the world. The ANC destroyed it beyond repair, everybody know about this heart breaking
truth.
Prof, Sir, with all respect, tell the people the truth and not just about sentiments and obsessions.
The Russian Oligarchs and the ANC Oligarchs elite are exactly the same.
Oligarchs are only Russians ,in SA ND the west they are called millionaire ND billionaires
Except the Russians oligarchs aren't queing for KFC.
@John Lighton The Russian Oligarchs have better taste they eat Caviar and the ANC eat KFC.
Not true; the Russian oligarchs are far more competent as well as better armed. :)
Nah ANC and US oligarchs are the same only difference is ANC are small fry criminals
I like the Russian people not their government or their Kremlin
We can no longer be proud to be South Africans. This government is despicable.
Dont expect them to respect others, they dont even have respect for themselves.
Their BS will NEVER determine who I am, and they know it
@@chrisbornman5460 unfortunately they are determining how we live
@@bradleybrazington385 There are ways around it, mainly patience. I will not be labelled and owned by criminals or petty thieves, like them
There was only a 4 year period where we could be proud in the entire history of South Africa.
Sounds like state capture to me!
Got it wrong!
It's difficult to fly with eagles when you live with turkeys
If u cannot run ur own country properly .why do u want another country
Let's be honest here. Ramaphosa cannot handle this country anymore. He must retire and go and rest. He will take wrong decicions that will cause huge problems for its country and people. We want a sharp, honest and go getter president. Black , brown and white all of our South Africans, and make it one of the best in the world again.
The Lady R. I now have a more plausible idea of what was unloaded. It's rectangular, thin and come in "easy to carry bags" - Monte Python.
But Piet was so chaffed when Ramaphosa took office. We were called names, as usual, when we warned him. Is this guy the best analyst you can muster?
To summaries: the countries welfare is secondary to the ANC's survival as a party. To hell with anti-Russian westerners but don't ditch our preferential trade agreements on the other hand. Insane!
Russia can sell us cheap gas and build power stations easily.
Perhaps the ANC comrades are hiding money in Russia.
No one including Russian oligarchs wants to hide money in Russia though the invasion of Ukraine May have changed this.
Beautifully said Piet!. Good observation about ANC bills. It is amazing to witness that sanity seems to prevail among the non-politicised middle-class. There is hope. We need to get these idiots out of public office
A N C is good we can't support the racist country like USA if we use the common sense properly bcz USA Is against humanity
The answer is quite simple. Putin is one of most richest dictators on earth. How he got the money is anyones guess. He is no businessman . So where did he get his money. So it is no mystery why the ANC and EFF love the guy. They can smell the money and just following it. Thay give a shit about the Sheep,they can eat the grass.
USA: We have unlimited amounts of money, print a few Trillions at a push of a button.
I see you have been watching way too much CNN😂.
So you also believe the lies hollywood fed you? President Putin did more for Russia, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, than any other President on this planet ever did for their countries. South Africa should have been the richest country in the world, but where did the wealth disappear to, Russia? The world is waking up, seeing the West for what it actualy is, a war mongering, unscrupulous evil entity, hellbent to rule the wole world.
@@Marty-zj7di no need for CNN, BBC or any other news channel mate
These leaders actions speak for themselves.
@@nelsonchinasamy9857 yet you don't call the unelected dictators in the EU , the US UK and the puppet in Ukraine who bans religion and language Dictators...then we clearly know you've drunken way too much koolaid. Ramaposa is just a useless puppet I give you that but far from dictator.
Yes! ANC is Russia crazy!
The great hope is this...there is a difference between Russia and it's politics...it is wise to isolate political parties from nation states.
There is a difference between the policy of the communist party and it's followers and the Russian people in total.
Not all German s were Nazis...not all Chinese agree with the role of the PLA.
It is critical to understand that in every nation there are people of faith and the book.
I am Zimbabwean...and in the majority are those like in South Africa of deep faith.
We will overcome...our work is to bring as many as we can with us .
Zimbabweans said no to another war.
We face down Zanu Of with humility and patience..such things are of great value..there are Russians and South Africans who stand in a non violent way also..we will prevail.
The ANC is a lost cause ... even for their own supporters !! Cyril, the SAfrican destructor for sure ..... where is Rob Hershov these days ?? .... liked his approach but now he has gone quiet on us ???? !!! has the ANC got to him perhaps ??
Black pen also quiet .
It’s irrational- just like most things that this government does.
I totally agree with professor Croucamp, and Russia didn’t get to play host when the ANC was elected and now they can play a role in keeping the ANC in power, another thumbs up to the west and of course the ANC is just so stupid that they will be lead by these evil people with no scruples of destroying our beautiful country😢😢😢
America is keeping the ANC in power because they are useless and will facilitate an American takeover of our resources as per American playbook with Maidan style insurrection and coups, or as per colour revolution.
Spot on, ANC first before. country. Shameful.
And yet Russia is one of the most racist countries in the world. They had an extremely racist cartoon of Obama when he was president of the USA
Please explain to South Africans the real reason(s) why Russian Federation is so loved. How much do they invest to South Africa.
This insignificant country,,? Maybe South Africa love the fact that most criminal acts are as a result of Russian Weapons.
When it was announced that Africa could 2 F1 races in the future calculations were made. IN 2008, Durban hosted an A1 race, brought in an estimated R220 lmillion, and attracted 100,000 fans. This was in 2008. 100 000 other fans were also watching. And consider that a large amount woud come from tourists. Imagine what it could have been now. However the authorities that be decided that South Africa will be boycotted as a result of its closeness with Russia
The political and ideological devide in RSA is dangerous. It is apparent that a certain a section of our population is antagonizing the democratic government even if it takes the country down. Very disturbing
The whole point of having a democracy is so that citizens have the freedom to antagonize government as long as they don’t break the law.
@@vigourboost8316 My point is really on race relations and economic and political interests of South Africans. Is it not striking that all the faces criticizing government on its position on the war in Ukraine are white and those agreeing with government are black
More disturbing is the massive corruption infesting every level in the ruling party.
They cannot think past their stomachs and they still somehow convince their voters they care about them.
@@menzimngadi6793 Because the majority is the least educated, and much of their decisions is based on skewed historical events and past traumas, with 29 years of racial rhetoric. Need i make an example?
Just over a hundred years ago much of the African populous were still living in the wild, while Europeans, Asian, English, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese were all already sailing across the sea, before that 2000 years of Vast empires, wars, and technological advancement. You see the difference? its not a superiority things its an evolution thing. Now Africans around here wanna tell whites whats what? The only ones here who do considered history and self educate the most are minorities. I can walk out my front door and not a single African person i talk to would know any fking thing about the history of South Africa let alone Africa, or Europe, some dont even know what the second world war is.
We need black people to stop racializing, shutting the fk up, and listening. Because all we hear is bitching and moaning. You think we arnt aware of what you are all saying? We know, the reason we dont go onto the topic is because its not factual or serves any practical purpose. When the majority grows mature enough to admit its wrong, to admit what its done to this country, then you might get some respect from whites.
@@menzimngadi6793 PERFECT QUESTION! Except that your focus on race is the wrong focus, this obsession to the exclusion of all rationality is killing this country. Here is the problem: 1. apartheid caused the problem by saying - only white people are allowed to be capitalist, blacks must be cheap working class labour. Don’t confuse this with race. 2. The ANC staggeringly, agrees with apartheid and continues this!!! Whites are capitalist, therefore capitalism is bad and we will attack WMC - The worst mistake in the world when there were already too few capitalists creating wealth and opportunities!!! This is why we are getting poorer and more stressed, because that is what comrade socialism delivers. Even more economically destructive policies hurting the poor worst, STILL based on angry racism.
You are making the point that SA is in the pocket of the west, no matter what strategic blunders they make, for example, goading the Russians to protect the ethnic Russians in the Donbas through their special military operation.
Absolutely true. Russia is fighting to stop the Kiev terrorists from killing their own people. Putin is right. Piet wants Zelensky to keep killing people in the Donbass.
Can you explain this, i am new to uk 2004 , i do door to door sales in St John’s Wood Weybridge Surrey , i come to a property with guys sitting elevated at the entrance with ak47 OR the russian version of semi automatic, i know gins are banned here in uk. I tell them what i am there for, they are Russian guys and holding guns and kind of telling me to move on, later i find out that many oligarchs fled Russia with loads of money , they come to uk.they are protected, WHY?????????
They were trained there.
That's the weird thing: a lot of them were actually trained in Ukraine. By Ukrainians.
The ANC love Russia for it's kickbacks, money undervthe table, in couches and ja ask waterkloof how often they fly in n drop pressies for ANC
@@unclescipio3136 Stop with your lies.
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 Tokyo Sexwale was himself trained in Ukraine, and said so on SABC on 28 Feb 2022. From the website South African History Onilne: "Tambo visited the USSR again in October, and because the number of recruits had increased significantly, training was moved to a larger facility in the city of Odessa in the Ukraine. The first group arrived in November 1963, and they were joined by a larger group that included Joe Modise (known as Thabo More) and Moses Mabhida, who was recalled from the World Federation of Trade Unions (WFTU) headquarters in Prague. Between 1963 and 1965, 328 cadres were trained at Odessa."
No lies. Ukrainians helped this country to be free.
No...ronnie kesler was trained in odessa, ukraine. And other anc comrades to. The people that are murdered with south african arms.
The US and the EU are accusing SA if not being neutral - talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Dankie Piet.
The uninformed has Russiaphobia and are still clinging to the sinking ship of the unipolar world. You will have nothing and be happy.....Klaus Schwab.
The ANC still clings to Russia for the wrong reasons, communism there is dead, Putin hates it and the EFF is oblivious of it. We should increase our trade with the multipolar world and drop the tanking Dollar. The West is facing a difficult time.
Our problem is the ANC pays grants to people who never paid tax their whole life while unemployment is ridiculously high, too many jobsworth cadres are being over paid so their isn't enough funds coming in.
Btw, I won't be surprise if the Lady R's load is what paid for the ANC's campaign and xtra funds.
I agree with you on everything but I think we need to maintain our relationship with Russia because one way or another we gonna have to brake the American chains
What chains ? Working instead of asking for hand outs 😅
@@cherylvandermeulen6897 You must be living in koo koo land if you think trade and aid by the US doesnt come with conditions (chains)🤡
There is no accounting for intellectuals' irrational obsessions. Perhaps prof is obsessed with Russia.
The collective west makes up 13% of the world population. The rest of the 85% are starting to make deals with Russia. Because America is a dying empire and also a sanction obsessed global terrorist. I detest the ANC, but in the light of the falling dollar and hegemonic USA empire, I don't think they have an unusual obsession with Russia.
Someone here says "follow the money". Popular meme. So have you followed the money? You think America is not paying ANC and Ramaphosa?
@@cherylvandermeulen6897
You need to get politically educated beyond your blinkered, limited experience of "handouts". I assume if you knew more you would have said it.
Besides, you probably mean handouts to black people, the very people who get up at 4/5 in the morning, sit in traffic for an hour+ to come and clean your house, keep your garden pristine, cook your meals in restaurants, clean the streets and public toilets, look after your children...I'm sure you can add to the list.
Why don't you ask these people to do their own dirty jobs?
@@cherylvandermeulen6897 the west cares about nobody hence they killed Gaddafi and Saddam. All they want is to conquer weak countries and take over their mineral resources. So don't be blinded by your hate for the Anc
For someone as brilliant as prof, I cannot understand his lack of insight into the global shift. The West are becoming a stench. BRICS is the way forward, hence the preoccupation with Russia.
I'm with you. It seems the brilliant brains get their news only from MSM. I am very happy that we are sort- of in the middle.
Ah but did you take into account that by partnering with BRICKS nations we invite more corruption into our political environment. Because many of these countries are the most corrupt human rights violators out there, and you want them to be able to walk freely on South African soil? The west isnt perfect either, but id sooner be neutral, and we govern this nation by our own terms. We have had enough injustice.
Rubbish. Uninformed comment. 👎
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Are you living in La La land 😅
Piet dit is snaaks dat jy nou ook negetiewe dinge van ANC begin raak sien.Halleluja jou oe gaan oop
Ja, ek onthou nog hoe hy ramposa se bekwaamheid besing het. Koelkop. Hy kyk net eers die kat uit die boom uit.
Ag genade en die esoteriese taalgebruik. Your job is to get people to vote, that is the priority at present!
because Russia is a free country and our politicians in the Anc have understood what NATO's criminal agenda is. Ukraine is a state which is corrupt to the core. its fully under Biden control. The west has lied and never wanted to honor the Minsk agreement
Wow there buddy, might i add that you need to start doing as much research into Russia as you clearly did the west. Do that, then come back here and see if you can put the word Free and Russia in the same sentence. U tebya der'mo v glazakh.
@@53ns3i you need to research America and the current EU. They are increasingly totalitarian regimes.
Russia a free country. You are misinformed, go and research about Russia
Money , stop. No ,dollars full stop.
the obsession is, both are thieving gangs, obsessed with stealing
So you are correct, its all illogical, its meant to be like this sob the real trouble makers can carry on
CR/ANC party b4 country. Come 2024 ppl rise up Country b4 party.
#SAVE-SA
Mr President he is a smooth criminal
ANC and most African leaders support Russian because African leaders are mafia and whatever they do, no one will ask them. second most of the South African mine Russians have shares in South Africa and some parts of Africa. their taking most of their illegal business with Dubai and Russia
Africans support Russia because it didn't and still does not terrorize them like the west did and still does.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 the west never terrorize Africa. we should tell the truth about history. The American bring peace. without America in this world, they will never be peace. it will be one man and his family's rules forever.
Whats the DA's obsession with supporting the US , UK and European Union . We now know the US caused the problems in Ukraine by Nato expansion, contravening biological weapons convevention and the supporting of Far right Nazis in Ukraine. Russia is on the right side of history in this case. THE USA is unfortunately the guilty party stoking the fire of war instead of seeking peace.
Vote DA is to vote WEF
You are missing the point entirely.We should all be seeking support from Bangladesh.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 maybe you're late to the party. SA have not diversified it's trade so that it's not at the mercy of the western elites. That meant increased trade with BRICS and Asian and South American countries. Free aid and tax exemptions come with conditions and these imperialist countries will skin you bare.
There is no accounting for intellectuals' irrational obsessions. Perhaps prof is obsessed with Russia.
The collective west makes up 13% of the world population. The rest of the 85% are starting to make deals with Russia. Because America is a dying empire and also a sanction obsessed global terrorist. I detest the ANC, but in the light of the falling dollar and hegemonic USA empire, I don't think they have an unusual obsession with Russia.
Someone here says "follow the money". Popular meme. So have you followed the money? You think America is not paying ANC and Ramaphosa?
Answer the question why is the DA obsessed with the USA and UK the USA is the cause of all this it had to catch up with them
The love of money is the root of all evil
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT 🙄. "Comrade loyalty...what are you going to do?" 😅😅😅. At no time are you or your children's future ever thought of by any ANC member ever. 😢😢😢. This has got everything to do with greed and power and debts that are not South Africans to pay. Wake up!!!! 😂😂. It's only your children's future at stake. What are you going to do about it 🤔? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
Why ANC a political party who use state money as it's owned .in ather party you can trust some but not in the ANC form the President down to minister toilet and MBALULA is worse.
The ANC and the EFF are living in the past. They seem unable to look to the future and build a better prosperous SA for all.
The EFF is very forward thinking, We don't have white capital telling us what to do, how to articulate our position, we have a vibrant ,young, educated and patriotic leadership, that has the interests of our people at heart.
@@Luvolwethu2014 Hahaha,....Hahaha
I bet you cant tell that to the Jews to forget about the holocaust,you cant tell Rwanda to forget about a genocide that they suffered,you cant tell the Congolese to forget about King Leopold maiming of 10 million citizens in their country, but you want us to, you can find the nearest hell
@Luvuyo Nozewu like I said. Living in the past. That way, a country never moves forward.
@@garthfitzpatrick2316 You want us to forget that 75% of the land in South Africa is owned by the minority? The natural resources are split between the minority and foreign owners, that black people dont own anything in their ancestral lands, we should bow down and accept this evil status quo, come on.
Vekselgberg' interest in the ANC is certainly not ideological, he's big bros with Netanyahu and Len Blavatnick who is a major Republican Party donor. Probably just trying to get around sanctions and needs the ANC to turn a blind eye.
The ANC is a criminal organization being funded by a inhumane, criminal network of Oligarchs, having devastating affects on our already weakened economy
Viktor Felixovich Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born Russian-Israeli-Cypriot oligarch, billionaire, and businessman. He is the owner and president of Renova Group, a Russian conglomerate. According to Forbes, as of November 2021, his fortune is estimated at $9.3 billion, making him the 262nd richest person in the world.
I am no longer a south african. Not while the ANC is in charge. Nothing they do is appropriate in any way. But then again, it fits in with their communist ideology....
You never been South African you are Europeana
@@geraldlekhowane8736 of course in south african. But but but while the powers that be are ruling, unfortunately I fall under their dictatorship...
Ramapoephol does not know the difference between party and government.
One has to wonder, WHY do they need financial help when our country has so many resources, ???? Say NO MORE!!??😮
Both "superpowers" are (ab)using smaller countries -in our case via a corrupt/useless ruling party that cares about itself, not the country. However, US sanctions are not UN sanctioned -they are plain blackmail.
The world is changing. The cold War ended in 1990 with the fall of communism
Leave Putin alone. He is cleaning up the LBTQXYZ ++ Agenda of the Western World who has clearly lost the plot.
We are part of the BRICKS alliance and gold backed currency.
The ANC might certainly be a total disgrace - but Leave Putin alone.
Very clever.. but Putin doesn't leave nations alone or his own people that are sent to prison .
Look how he destroyed the Ukraine and anyone else gets in the bastards way, time to kick that ramaprick out for good
If Putin is anti poofters I quite agree with him.
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Brics going to make you rich and happy. Hating the west will destroy them.
We love Russians as well. Russian tourists are BIG spenders in Cape Town area. The tourist operators, helicopter charting, car rental companies are not complaining!
The average Russian is not the Putin regime. Be brave. Wear the flag of Ukraine on your top next time you entertain Russians.
We were in Russia for a month 6 years ago.Politics aside we loved it.The people were freindly and we were amazed how many could speak English.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 . I really feel for the Russians. They are in the same situation South Africans are. Fantastic people with a shit government.
@@christinefinniss6263 Ukraine was taken over by nazis. Azov battalion. Look it up.
@@christinefinniss6263 we support Putin aswell why would we wear that crap of a flag the Neo Nazi's is wearing aswell of Ukraine?
Ask the Oppenheimers and Ruperts where the ANC get their money from.
Stupid question
1 million dollar = roughly 18-20 million, so there may be a link on Phala Phala
Unbelievable what I am hearing
Piet is very sharp.
ANC dICTATORSHIP
The ANC makes South Africa a cheap date,SARS are not doing their job.
Car manufactury companies in South Africa are Foreign car manufactury companies..Germany, France, China, United States, Britain ect....We need to have an open discussions on this matter, Why DA White people in general in South Africa have also so much Love for Western??? Countries...
I quite agree with you. We whites must become African and stop backing the West.
When 2 man are fighting how will you seperate the man to stop fighting...Will you hung up the White Flak .represent and encourage Peace or will you provide a knife to one that represent and encourage killing...and is for self defence....
.United States & NATO are quilty of war crimes...
America and NATO claim providing weapons to Ukraine is for self defence Thats absolute 'Nonsence is not true ...They are in war with Rassia..