I remember coming back from work one night in a snowstorm. My dad, a huge John Wayne fan, was home making pizza and we watched Stagecoach. He had seen it dozens of times, but he looked like he had just watched it for the first time. He loved that film and The Searchers
What i Learn from Stagecoach, is that you can make Great Films Simply with being Creative with your Own View and giving it Great Execution you can bring New Meaning and Great Stories.
So I just got done watching this movie for the first time and WOW this was beautiful John Ford was a genius who made simple story’s and could find away to make cliche characters different and daring stagecoach is beautiful film about random character who learn well about each other the acting is this phenomenon the cinematography is just beyond great this movie is amazing god I love westerns.
It's a shame they haven't found a good film print of this film for a proper restoration. I read somewhere that the original negative is too used to be a spruce for restoration. And they can't find a first generation print to go for. Just imagine a great restoration of this film considering how great Chaplin's restored films from some years earlier look...
Saw this film as an adult for the 1st time. I was blown away that a movie from 1939 was so real. I felt like I was in that stage coach. I mean you could feel the sway, taste the dirt, dust & body oder of the passengers & surrounding environment. The filming was sparse & dark. The scenery filmed in majesty. The action shots, the Apache chase, the stage coach entering the river, were incredible for 1939. A great film that time hasn't dimmed.
Great video. I watched Stagecoach last week. Awesome explanation and it helped by explaining what went before it. You could almost make a sequel on examples of tropes borrowed from Stagecoach in later films.
John Ford was born in my home state, Maine, in a town called Cape Elizabeth, which is home to Portland Head Light, Fort Williams, and many other landmarks!
as William K. Everson once pointed out, the W. C. Fields and Mae West movie, " my little chickadee, " is a partial parody of Stagecoach and pokes fun at many of its elements.
You've been a great help, for my studying. Tnx bro. Wishing you the best. ps. you'r content is fundamental, precise and objective. Everything you need for a history lessons.
The character archetypes and themes in Stagecoach may seem cliche to us now but I imagine them being a lot more fresh in 1939, especially in the medium of motion pictures. With sound being ‘relatively’ new to the medium, Ford used dialogue yet also images through his technique from silent films to still tell a poignant story on society, norms etc. Which may have only been available in literature to most viewers before.
I wrote a paper in college, discussing Stagecoach on one end and The Shootist on the other for an American Film class I took. It was a lot of fun to write and a lot of fun to research, and I didn't even like John Wayne flicks when I started the class. Film can do that to you.
This was during the days of the code. It was strictly enforced by the Hays Office. John Ford did NOT give a damn. He had two lead actresses, one a proper, arrogant Southern belle, the other a prostitute. A prostitute. You did NOT do that during the days of the code! If you even dared to put in a character of "loose morals" they would either be killed off or thrown in jail by the end of the picture, or in some way punished. So what happens to the prostitute in Stagecoach? Yeah, she gets driven out of town by a committee of uptight hausfraus but in the end she rides off to a new happy life with John Wayne. John Ford said "I can't do that? Screw you, I'm gonna do it." and he did. John Ford didn't care: he did what he wanted. Maybe the historical facts got jumbled in his Westerns, but they were exactly the way he wanted them, and the hell with anyone's opinions or the antiquated rules. And he was the one man in the world that Wayne was afraid of...
How did John Ford save in 1939 if Destry Rides Again and Dodge City both successful and great westerns came out the same year? ..... then I watched the video. Subscribed.
I’m hoping Gone With The Wind is next I mean you can’t talk about films or films from 1939 alone without talking about the no.1 box office selling film of all time 😊😊
From my understanding, the best way to use cliches is to invert them in that if something such as a dwarf is a common convention in fantasy then you should create the opposite of a dwarf rather than the dwarf itself.
For starters, the "Wild West" is a British term that came from Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, and is seldom used in America, which uses "old West" or "Frontier" more often. You say quick draw duels "are complete fiction" but I can name several. Your confident assertions of facts are full of holes, but enjoyable as semi-fiction.
While this was a good video, you do mention some historical inaccuracies. For example, there were a few quick draw duels, the most famous being between Wild Bill Hickok and Davis Tutt. Also one could argue the OK Corral shootout also relied on the quick draw. Secondly, American Indian attacks were absolutely not rare at all. There were numerous outbreaks of conflict on the frontier and too many raids on settlers to even count. The American Indian Wars in the west lasted throughout the majority of the 1800s.
Orson Welles loved John Ford, but it also caused troubles for him: Ford was an anarchist (or simply didn't really understand) where to place the camera--people talking to each others appear to look in the same direction in montages, for example.
The Apache represented in Stagecoach were not wild. Nor was Geronimo was vicious warlord. Geronimo was a shaman and military leader that resisted confinement on reserved lands because the Apache economic system depended on hunting big game. Moreover, reserved lands became slimmer and rebounded as white patriarchal societies found resources on those lands. Your essays are excellent but please don’t buy into that racist trope.
The video has some great information, but uses a few poor word choices to reference the Native Americans (and really, people “playing” Native Americans) seen in the film. Even if the intent is to reflect the content/context of the film- it should be clarified that Native Americans/Indians are and were not wild and savage as stated.
Chiricahua Apaches were feared and hated for hundreds of years. They raided all over the Mexican border as well as other more peaceful and farming tribes. They took many hundreds of captives as slaves and were well known for their slow and ingenious tortures. The gentle and agricultural Pima Indians hated and feared them.. Numerous warlike tribes long before the whiteman, were fighting endless battles with their neighbors. Before the attack on the stage coach there is some excellent shots of authentic 'Native Americans' on horseback.
Pointing out the high points in a work of artistic excellence and bringing attention to hidden meanings in character, setting, structure and balance when used cinematically does not ruin a film.
I remember coming back from work one night in a snowstorm. My dad, a huge John Wayne fan, was home making pizza and we watched Stagecoach. He had seen it dozens of times, but he looked like he had just watched it for the first time. He loved that film and The Searchers
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What i Learn from Stagecoach, is that you can make Great Films Simply with being Creative with your Own View and giving it Great Execution you can bring New Meaning and Great Stories.
So I just got done watching this movie for the first time and WOW this was beautiful John Ford was a genius who made simple story’s and could find away to make cliche characters different and daring stagecoach is beautiful film about random character who learn well about each other the acting is this phenomenon the cinematography is just beyond great this movie is amazing god I love westerns.
Ford also directed Two of Will Rogers best movies," Steamboat round the bend [1935] and, " judge priest. "
It's a shame they haven't found a good film print of this film for a proper restoration. I read somewhere that the original negative is too used to be a spruce for restoration. And they can't find a first generation print to go for. Just imagine a great restoration of this film considering how great Chaplin's restored films from some years earlier look...
Saw this film as an adult for the 1st time. I was blown away that a movie from 1939 was so real. I felt like I was in that stage coach. I mean you could feel the sway, taste the dirt, dust & body oder of the passengers & surrounding environment. The filming was sparse & dark. The scenery filmed in majesty. The action shots, the Apache chase, the stage coach entering the river, were incredible for 1939. A great film that time hasn't dimmed.
Great video. I watched Stagecoach last week. Awesome explanation and it helped by explaining what went before it. You could almost make a sequel on examples of tropes borrowed from Stagecoach in later films.
John Ford was born in my home state, Maine, in a town called Cape Elizabeth, which is home to Portland Head Light, Fort Williams, and many other landmarks!
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Very good Charlie.Well done.
I’ve been wondering why the long wait between videos
Love them by the way
Another great podcast about a great movie. Thank you for making it and posting it.
Bravo ! What a wonderful video😊
Doctoral thesis level of analysis therein. I absolutely have to rewatch a slew of Jon Ford's films now ...
Another great video; keep up the good work.
Just discovered your channel recently and I am hooked.
Love your stuff.
Fantastic video. Subbed. Shall make my way through your catalogue and eagerly await new uploads.
Another excellent and well thought of video
as William K. Everson once pointed out, the W. C. Fields and Mae West movie, " my little chickadee, " is a partial parody of Stagecoach and pokes fun at many of its elements.
really a great movie that defines what a movie can be
Great work as always!
You've been a great help, for my studying. Tnx bro. Wishing you the best. ps. you'r content is fundamental, precise and objective. Everything you need for a history lessons.
Love your channel, thanks!
Nice Work!
The character archetypes and themes in Stagecoach may seem cliche to us now but I imagine them being a lot more fresh in 1939, especially in the medium of motion pictures. With sound being ‘relatively’ new to the medium, Ford used dialogue yet also images through his technique from silent films to still tell a poignant story on society, norms etc. Which may have only been available in literature to most viewers before.
Afi shouldn't have remove this film on their top 100 list.
Wow really well done video.
I wrote a paper in college, discussing Stagecoach on one end and The Shootist on the other for an American Film class I took. It was a lot of fun to write and a lot of fun to research, and I didn't even like John Wayne flicks when I started the class. Film can do that to you.
They were writing novels about the Old West while the Old West was still happening. Cooper's "THe LAst of the Mohicans" is, in many ways, a Western.
Orson welles watched stagecoach multiple times to be prepare for citizen kane
What a brilliant explanation *****
Legendary movie that John Ford has ever made! ❤️ My second favorite of his will have to be "Arrowsmith" starring Ronald Colman.
This movie is still great
What are the chances that I just watched The Notebook, Stagecoach and Solaris this week and they are all referenced in this video???
They are??
@@stephenkeen5737 Yes.
This was during the days of the code. It was strictly enforced by the Hays Office. John Ford did NOT give a damn. He had two lead actresses, one a proper, arrogant Southern belle, the other a prostitute. A prostitute. You did NOT do that during the days of the code! If you even dared to put in a character of "loose morals" they would either be killed off or thrown in jail by the end of the picture, or in some way punished. So what happens to the prostitute in Stagecoach? Yeah, she gets driven out of town by a committee of uptight hausfraus but in the end she rides off to a new happy life with John Wayne. John Ford said "I can't do that? Screw you, I'm gonna do it." and he did. John Ford didn't care: he did what he wanted. Maybe the historical facts got jumbled in his Westerns, but they were exactly the way he wanted them, and the hell with anyone's opinions or the antiquated rules. And he was the one man in the world that Wayne was afraid of...
How about doing another 1939 film like Gone With The Wind?
It seems like you were really passionate about this.
How did John Ford save in 1939 if Destry Rides Again and Dodge City both successful and great westerns came out the same year?
..... then I watched the video. Subscribed.
I’m hoping Gone With The Wind is next I mean you can’t talk about films or films from 1939 alone without talking about the no.1 box office selling film of all time 😊😊
I think he's more interested in bringing attention to films that people need to know about but may have never seen.
@@rufust.firefly2474 Like Wizard of Oz? Lol
From my understanding, the best way to use cliches is to invert them in that if something such as a dwarf is a common convention in fantasy then you should create the opposite of a dwarf rather than the dwarf itself.
Is next episode 1940 or will you do an episode on The Rules of the Game?
I guess the next one will be Gone With the Wind. He has done two episodes featuring the the same year before.
Another excellent episode! Had to listen to it at 1.25x though ...
So sad you skipped "Goe With the Wind" :(
Have hope, he's not doing them in order
For starters, the "Wild West" is a British term that came from Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, and is seldom used in America, which uses "old West" or "Frontier" more often. You say quick draw duels "are complete fiction" but I can name several. Your confident assertions of facts are full of holes, but enjoyable as semi-fiction.
He refers to the tropes of such things as the Quick Draw duel, rather than their real life counterparts.
While this was a good video, you do mention some historical inaccuracies. For example, there were a few quick draw duels, the most famous being between Wild Bill Hickok and Davis Tutt. Also one could argue the OK Corral shootout also relied on the quick draw. Secondly, American Indian attacks were absolutely not rare at all. There were numerous outbreaks of conflict on the frontier and too many raids on settlers to even count. The American Indian Wars in the west lasted throughout the majority of the 1800s.
It does not beg the question. It raises the question and if you want to know why look it up!
Orson Welles loved John Ford, but it also caused troubles for him: Ford was an anarchist (or simply didn't really understand) where to place the camera--people talking to each others appear to look in the same direction in montages, for example.
lol
Watch the final shot in “The Searchers” and tell me John Ford didn’t understand where to place the camera
Are you crazy? If anything Ford was the best for that job..
So? So what if he was sloppy with his choice of angles? 😂 He still blocked his fascinating movies with his angles, so graciously.
Please! "Begging the question" is the name of a logical fallacy. You meant to say, "raises the question".
Ford!!!
Pelicuas en espanol
Made it grow up
"You get a sense of what the earth is made of"?? 🙄 Love the video but Wayne was no male Gaia. Thanks.
The Apache represented in Stagecoach were not wild. Nor was Geronimo was vicious warlord. Geronimo was a shaman and military leader that resisted confinement on reserved lands because the Apache economic system depended on hunting big game. Moreover, reserved lands became slimmer and rebounded as white patriarchal societies found resources on those lands. Your essays are excellent but please don’t buy into that racist trope.
The video has some great information, but uses a few poor word choices to reference the Native Americans (and really, people “playing” Native Americans) seen in the film. Even if the intent is to reflect the content/context of the film- it should be clarified that Native Americans/Indians are and were not wild and savage as stated.
Chiricahua Apaches were feared and hated for hundreds of years. They raided all over the Mexican border as well as other more peaceful and farming tribes. They took many hundreds of captives as slaves and were well known for their slow and ingenious tortures. The gentle and agricultural Pima Indians hated and feared them.. Numerous warlike tribes long before the whiteman, were fighting endless battles with their neighbors. Before the attack on the stage coach there is some excellent shots of authentic 'Native Americans' on horseback.
Please study Native American tribes & their place in Western history. Your comments are generally inaccurate & off based.
Yawn !
Managed to completely ruin this great movie in only 14 minutes. And, forget the word "trope", you turned it into one in only 14 minutes.
Pointing out the high points in a work of artistic excellence and bringing attention to hidden meanings in character, setting, structure and balance when used cinematically does not ruin a film.
America is bigger than just USA
'AMERICA" refers to the USA
@@Valkonnen Apparently only for those who live in the United States, for the rest of the world America is a continent with more countries.