@@Candrsenal You said you're not covering it in this series, but do you know definitively that the C-93 Borchardt was never used in WWI? For some reason Wikipedia says it was in service until 1945, but I don't know what "in service" means.
Brazil acquired 5,000 Lugers pistols, at the same time it bought the Mauser M908 rifles. These weapons were manufactured and delivered over 1909 and 1911 and have the characteristics of what collectors call "Model 1906" (DWM factory named "New model"): Luger caliber 7.65 mm (7.65 x 21), barrel 120mm (4.75 inches), safety button on the handle, helical recovery spring, bolt and extractor with integral grips with new design. The extractor was marked "carregada" ("loaded" in Portuguese) and the only specific marking of our contract was a small "B" inside a circle stamped on the left side of the gun (beside the chamber). The guns of the Brazilian contract were sequentially numbered 01-5000, Finally, contrary to what some people insist, there are NO pistols aimed at the Brazilian forces in 9mm Luger caliber, much less such "500 copies for officers" or something like that. Weapons found in this caliber have been modified at a later date or are simply fakes.
Between you, The Great War, and Forgotten Weapons now and then, we viewers are getting some really great in-depth and hands on history from 100 years ago (events many of us do not realize are still impacting us daily).
I Purchased a P08 many years ago, with holster and spare magazines (2 I was really impressed!) it was a standard infantry type but in absolutely mint condition, as were the holster and spare mags. Being a cop, I took it along to the range the next qualification session, and after firing my duty .357 Mag for qualification, I went through the whole routine once more firing the Luger with surplus hardball ammo (red primer) I was a bit surprised when I actually scored better with the Luger, I usually come out near the top score with any pistol owing to my being raised with guns in my hands from age 8 on up, but I was genuinely surprised with the scoring with that old German War Horse. There hasn't been a day gone by since I sold her that I haven't wished I had her back in my hands once more. Ah well I still have my Astra A100 and my Citadel M1911A1 conceal carry model. Guess I am well protected, but as for holding a pistol and just dreaming of the places she has been and the wars she has seen, just isn't the same, especially now when I am old and gray with long boring tales to tell my grandsons when they climb up on my laps with requests for stories "from the olden days"
Last summer I bought a 1939 production P38 and a 1916 production C96 Red 9. The Red 9 is in near mint condition complete with wood broomhandle and leather holster. I have a relatively high end Springfield Armory 1911 and I find that I am more accurate with my P38 but I have no idea why. I was a police officer in the 1970s. Carried a .357 service revolver and I bought an original production Colt 1911. I sold the Colt after leaving policing but I sure wish I'd have kept it. My Springfield is close to the Colt in feel but it isn't the same, and I'm guessing a Colt might compete well against a P09.
Howdy and thank you for the thorough video. Just a few hours earlier, I examined a DWM p08 at our local Cabelas. It was double-date stamped 1920 over 1917. You explained the reason for the 1920 stamp, solving that mystery. Thank you for that, also.
I learned a lot from this episode and thank you for your attention to detail, especially the history and development through the various trials. I also learned that if I am ever fortunate enough to meet Mae in person I will NEVER pat her on the head...NEVER!
Karl seemed to think that most Luger owners aren't using the best ammo. InRangeTV used 147gr bullets to cope with the 100-year-old springs, as opposed to the standard 125gr ball that the German Army would been have using and the 115gr range ammo most people (including me!) would use if they were afraid of wearing the poor thing out.
You and Ian from Forgotten Weapons have the best showcase videos on the old guns of the past. Top notch videos from both of you. Best on UA-cam. Thanks and keep up that good vids please. Thanks from everyone who enjoys your vids.
Mae, You are completly right. This thing is like grown out of Your hand. Its a part of You. Never in my life I had a hun im my hand that was so much part of me. And I am massive 1911 fan.
26:50 - You may be surprised at exactly how many of us are tuning in for exactly this sort of thing. I crave this kind of nitty gritty, and you guys deliver.
Fantastic, comprehensive and the kind of video that such a weapon deserves! Thanks very much. I'm not a handgun guy but this was just so damn interesting!
+britishmuzzleloaders We're at Springfield photographing today and tomorrow. Pop me an email if there is anything you think they may have in the collection you can't normally get at and I'll take a look at photographing it for you. (ok, pick 2 though or I'll be buried)
just found your channel through "history buffs" then "the great war" and withing two seconds I could tell this channel is UA-cam gold, great work guys .
A female shooting a 9 mm and it seems the Luger doesn't have a lot of recoil compared to allot of other 9 mm handguns. When I see females shoot 9mm or above It's clear that most guns with a caliber of 9 mm and up are not really made for them ( most f them ) . It is to powerful for the "average" Lady. The earlier luger should be tested. Personally think its normal and there is nothing wrong with the fact that males are on average stronger than females. It does show in a way that the industry has a gap to fill. Engineer a good size cartridge that lady's can shoot without fear nor pain in the wrist. ( I am trying to get my better half to be able to protect herself ) It's hard though when you want something above .22/25 and a nice evening without her having pain in her hand and wrist. There must be a way to do it better in 2017. So make something for real self defense and concentrate on women for once.
39:03 - sooo, is that a hint of Ian and Karl doing a mud test with a P08? If so: YAY! :D. Anyway, thanks for the terrific episode. Being from Germany, the P08 has a VERY special place in my gun enthusiast heart.
"You can't make an entire livelihood just selling to the Swiss" Replace "Swiss" with "US Government" and you'll see the lesson that Colt has failed to learn.
A few people in Colt seemed to have learned that lesson with their Competition line, a few more carry guns, and some more advertising in the gun rags. They need to get rid of Gen. Keys though. Apparently he detests the thought of selling guns to civilians.
+Francis Borek Detested sounds about right. They also make a bunch of changes to the ARs they sell to civilians to make double extra special sure you can not put an M16 bolt in it...even though that makes no difference. They even hacked off the entire bottom of the bolt carrier to make sure it could never engage an auto-sear. They really hate the idea of civilians with their weapons.
+Francis Borek Oh? That is good to hear. Them going so far out of their way to ensure civilians can not have automatic weapons was a really telling thing. I have heard that they are under partially new management...again. Maybe it will be better this time...but I still find their ARs over prices, ha.
Genius design. I love the history of small arms production from that period. Love your videos, it's great to hear the history explained in great detail.
20:43 - perhaps the reason Luger initially went with the bottlenecked 9mm was headspace. Bottlenecked cartridges headspace on the shoulder, and this was familiar to him, whereas a rimless straight-walled case like the 9mm Parabellum headspaces on the case mouth (and he probably wasn't sure THAT would work until he tried it - everything before that was either rimmed or bottlenecked). I always thought rifle ammunition was bottlenecked to get a reasonable amount of powder behind a small diameter bullet without having to have a very long cartridge case, plus with rimless ammunition you have a more positive way to headspace the round compared to headspacing on the case mouth. Obturation actually occurs along the walls of the case ahead of the solid brass in the case head, as the brass walls are forced against the steel of the chamber to seal the gases in. Incidentally, I think "Georg" is actually pronounced "Gay-org". Confused me when I watched "The Sound of Music".
Borchardt scoffed at the idea that Ludwig Loewe would get someone _else_ to perfect his gun. I wonder how the conversation went....... "Pah! Who could improve my designs?" "Well, we've got this one guy. You may have heard of him. He's not a big deal, but you may know him as Georg Luger" _Under his breath_ "Well he won't ever amount to anything....."
Another masterpiece. I can't wait for episode 2. Mae, I congratulate you on your self-control in not assaulting Othais after his coronation "pat"; what else could that have been?
@C&Rsenal Hello Othais and thanks for the great video. As a half germ, half hungarian, i can translate FEG for you, if you not know the translation allready. FEG stands for Fegyver- és Gépgyártó Részvénytársaság ("Arms and Machine Manufacturing Company"). Your pronounciation made my day. Thank you very, very much. Keep up the good work and Greetings to Mae. :)
Oh geez! Almost an hour! I figured with the history this gun has this episode would be long, but that takes up about the rest of my open free time today! But if you're gonna have any gun go for over 50 minutes, this would definitely be one of the best to do it with!
Great video guys. Congrats on a fantastic channel. I have a marine Luger and its amazing. The build quality is outstanding, you can truly feel the workmanship and the quality of the materials. Field strip and clean isn’t too bad, but a detail strip is murderous! And don’t get me started on reassembly... putting the recoil spring back is actually a two man job, and even them takes a huge amount of effort (and skin off your hands). But when you take it to the range, people go nuts, it’s like showing up in a Rolls Royce with a supermodel on your arm. Agree with Mae on shooting, but 2 handed it’s a tack driver. If you put the stock on the grip, it’s crazy accurate even without a cheek weld.
I got that Futurama reference! Nice. Also, the Luger I shoot has a super crisp trigger. It feels like very little take-up and therefore it's harder to have pull errors. The break was tight and short, adding to working with ergonomics. This one was made in 1911.
Othais and Mae, you guys made my day with such a captivating in-depth episode. As I am watching your presentation, I have my Grandpa's 1937 Swiss Luger with red grips in its ordnance holster, laying in front of me on the coffee table. How cool is that? I hope someday, you will get into the Sig P210, it is also a superb shooter. Keep up the good work. Thanks guys.
To be honest, if *any* video you do calls for going over toggle-lock systems again, it's the P08. With how iconic this pistol is, it's gonna draw new viewers. Still yet another great video, though!
In the 1970's, I owned a Stoeger .22 Caliber Luger 'replica' and it DROVE ME NUTS when it came to take-down and cleaning: parts were popping off everywhere and keeping everything compressed for refitting would have gotten me killed in the field. As it was, my fingers got bloodied at the garage workbench. Still, the shape was, and is, iconic.
My Walther PPS has that chamber "step". Was really surprised when I examined the brass because it looks just like the brass from my 1912 Luger. Great video btw.
Othais and Mae, Really enjoyed primer 023. Very informative for owners like myself (mine is stamped 1916). The ammo that Mae used seem to operate well in this model. Would you share what type and load it was. Thanks.
My uncle uses 115 gr CCI Blazer and 115 gr federal . It seems to run fine with most anything that has a standard round nosed projectile, but I've only fired it on three occasions plinking paper.
Couple month ago, I spent 3.5K for a “first issue” Luger, one of the first 25,000 Lugers first made for the imperial German army. There were 253 surviving, mine is now officially the 254th! The tell tales are all the imperial German crowns and the imperial war eagles on the left side of the gun, and most importantly, these first issue Lugers do not have the attachment knob for the holster/stock on the back of the grip. Starting with the second issues, like the Luger the OP is holding at 3-5 minute mark, you can now clearly see the attachment knob on the grip. This is a rare and highly coveted collector item.
+C&Rsenal First if someone ever yelled at you because you try to say something an language which you obviously not speak, that person an arrogant idiot at least! Second I do respect that voluntary tray it and do your best !Third the Hungarian alphabet is different from the English so you get close as you can. Forth I come to the UK 10 years ago and still I have a Strong accent so I am impressed
You're fantastic, both with your research, your handling of the gun, and with your knowledge of how the gun is designed and works. Personally, my own favorite is the history part of the episode. As for some criticism of your channel, it can pretty much be summed up in your own words: "yadda yadda". I understand that this is a channel for people with at least intermediate knowledge of guns, but I do feel that your channel could be enriched by a video or two on how modern guns work. At least, a video for non-native english speakers on the definitions on what certain things mean or point to. I feel that that would be a simple way to make your channel more accessible to others,
+kaazmodan We're planning some basics videos but honestly they are a bit on the backburner as we are not keeping up with the 2 week schedule well so far. (trips, animations, etc) I'm planning on spending the next 6-8 weeks building up a buffer of episodes. Once I can breathe I'd like to go back and do fundamentals in some shorts.
Everytime I see a luger and you here about's great sucess one question comes to mind: How come no one else ever made a elbow-operated-joint gun of any sort again (that I know of)? PS -- Taofledermaus is right, these are some excellently made historical vids. Reminds me when dad and I used to watch "World At War" late Sunday night on PBS when they didn't care about playing the most graphic B&W war footage. This is the _quality of depth_ I really appreciate seeing in a video & a big part of why I have given up TV entirely ('cept for Survivor, but I even missed the past month of episodes of that!) for UA-cam. This kind of content rocks and blame Taofledermaus for my lengthy comments as it was his liking his own video (5,000 LIKED vids and I found that to find this, what are the odds?) that brought me here.
+BikingMNViking The Luger was adopters late but is actually one of the early auto loaders. By the time the patents on the pistol toggle and especially the direct exception of can pressure on the knee died out there were way more efficient and less recoil intensive options available
I understand that, it just seems that anything in popular culture with enough popularity & likeability gets duplicated in replica, often working replica and I am wondering why was the P08 an exception? We've got working authentic replica Navy and Colt pistols, Uberti's and all sorts of other American pistols, what would be the reasons to stop an authentic replica not just a Ruger Mark I-V? Is it political or something I am totally missing? From what I've seen the price of a luger is so collectible than it seems to me an authentic replica remake would likely sell very well.
Great episode re: P08 Luger. Thanks + congrats on job well done. Incidentally, I saw a review of a Brun Latridge Model 1900 today and this pistol reminded me of the ergonomics of the Borchardt C-93. Maybe this type of design was "thing" in the 1900's. Thanks again for sharing and all the excellent work you and your team are doing.
Brilliant Historical and Entertaining stuff on the P98 Luger history. The best I have found yet. Great, Mae seems to love this Pistol, I must try and find one. What came across was that this Pistol was not the piece of rubbish some people convey. Yes, it survived two major wars! I don't look forward to the day you run out of subject material. Hey Team, keep up this great work in the same format. - and then, 'War Were Declared'!
I own 2 of them.Very fascinating mechanism for its time but its truly a an iconic pistol to look at and a joy to shoot.The legacy of this pistol is it's cartridge the 9mm Parabellum which has gone on as a popular round in the civilian and military and called the 9mm Luger or 9mm NATO.
+C&Rsenal Why sorry, that's the best 53 minutes of entertainment (and education) available! Great work as always! I mean, what weirdo wouldn't want to spend his evening listening to Othias delve into the history and function of one of the most iconic handguns of the 20th century?
First pistol I shot was my dad's Luger. It pointed so easy for me even with terrible technique that it gave me some serious overconfidence when trying out other pistols later in life.
Thanks for this awesome presentation of one of my favorite guns! A minor typo error at 00:50, I think the dot is missing => 8.74" is not 222cm, but 22,2cm. Cheers from France!
Richs revolver had many advantages. In heavy bombardment you could hide behind it. In Naval operations neither ballast nor anchors were required.
Lol
And you could bomb enemy trenches by dropping it from airplanes
*Reichsrevolver
If you shoot it, not only will your arm fly around the earth and hit you in the face, but the person you shot would just go into space.
@@RNKel1 Depending on how you stand it could hit you in the butt.
"Really try to forget what this gun looks like"
I open my eyes and *gasp* KRAUT SPACE MAGIC!!!
All Kraut guns have some space magic in them
Very well done. Can't wait to see part two!
+TFB TV Thanks! .... now I just gotta do it.
@@Candrsenal You said you're not covering it in this series, but do you know definitively that the C-93 Borchardt was never used in WWI? For some reason Wikipedia says it was in service until 1945, but I don't know what "in service" means.
@@Edax_Royeaux Yeah Wikipedia isn't really reliable.
@Subhan Ali Would being adopted by a police force count as "in service"?
@Subhan Ali I don't know if they were either. I'm just wondering if that's what they mean "in service". -shrug-.
Othais whenever I close my eyes while you're talking, I hear the love-child of Kermit and Seth Rogen.
Christian Nelson oh my god that's amazing XD
Christian Nelson what have you done?
Christian Nelson you’re right
omg that's funny
Damn, that is so true.
Brazil acquired 5,000 Lugers pistols, at the same time it bought the Mauser M908 rifles. These weapons were manufactured and delivered over 1909 and 1911 and have the characteristics of what collectors call "Model 1906" (DWM factory named "New model"): Luger caliber 7.65 mm (7.65 x 21), barrel 120mm (4.75 inches), safety button on the handle, helical recovery spring, bolt and extractor with integral grips with new design. The extractor was marked "carregada" ("loaded" in Portuguese) and the only specific marking of our contract was a small "B" inside a circle stamped on the left side of the gun (beside the chamber). The guns of the Brazilian contract were sequentially numbered 01-5000, Finally, contrary to what some people insist, there are NO pistols aimed at the Brazilian forces in 9mm Luger caliber, much less such "500 copies for officers" or something like that. Weapons found in this caliber have been modified at a later date or are simply fakes.
I'm imagining Luger being asked to put a loaded magazine indicator on his gun and just gesticulating wildly at the magazine inserted.
"You fucking idiots"
Excellent episode! You knocked it out of the park!
+TAOFLEDERMAUS SPOTTED IN THE WILD!!!!
+TAOFLEDERMAUS zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
C&Rsenal Lies of fake!
***** *Verified name*
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Tao don't you have click bait to make buddy?
you guys deserve to be much more popular than you are your content is polished, well researched and enjoyable
Thanks!
I'll second that!!
Or at least a sponsor.
I’m glad you guys switched over to period accurate music for the shooting segments. It really gives your show some extra character.
Othais, it might not be exciting television, but listening/watching you work through the Luger is exactly why I'm here. A fantastic episode.
+Peter Larkin Thanks man!
Between you, The Great War, and Forgotten Weapons now and then, we viewers are getting some really great in-depth and hands on history from 100 years ago (events many of us do not realize are still impacting us daily).
+Dean Orvik The war made an incredible change to the whole world. I can't even imagine a modern day without its influence.
I Purchased a P08 many years ago, with holster and spare magazines (2 I was really impressed!) it was a standard infantry type but in absolutely mint condition, as were the holster and spare mags. Being a cop, I took it along to the range the next qualification session, and after firing my duty .357 Mag for qualification, I went through the whole routine once more firing the Luger with surplus hardball ammo (red primer) I was a bit surprised when I actually scored better with the Luger, I usually come out near the top score with any pistol owing to my being raised with guns in my hands from age 8 on up, but I was genuinely surprised with the scoring with that old German War Horse. There hasn't been a day gone by since I sold her that I haven't wished I had her back in my hands once more. Ah well I still have my Astra A100 and my Citadel M1911A1 conceal carry model. Guess I am well protected, but as for holding a pistol and just dreaming of the places she has been and the wars she has seen, just isn't the same, especially now when I am old and gray with long boring tales to tell my grandsons when they climb up on my laps with requests for stories "from the olden days"
Last summer I bought a 1939 production P38 and a 1916 production C96 Red 9. The Red 9 is in near mint condition complete with wood broomhandle and leather holster. I have a relatively high end Springfield Armory 1911 and I find that I am more accurate with my P38 but I have no idea why. I was a police officer in the 1970s. Carried a .357 service revolver and I bought an original production Colt 1911. I sold the Colt after leaving policing but I sure wish I'd have kept it. My Springfield is close to the Colt in feel but it isn't the same, and I'm guessing a Colt might compete well against a P09.
What a great series!
Howdy and thank you for the thorough video. Just a few hours earlier, I examined a DWM p08 at our local Cabelas. It was double-date stamped 1920 over 1917.
You explained the reason for the 1920 stamp, solving that mystery.
Thank you for that, also.
I learned a lot from this episode and thank you for your attention to detail, especially the history and development through the various trials. I also learned that if I am ever fortunate enough to meet Mae in person I will NEVER pat her on the head...NEVER!
+Robert Neal I'm glad you enjoyed it!
yall are my favorite vintage and relic gun channel on you tube
Aww
Carl & Ian have done a mud test and found the P08 100% reliable.
That goes without saying.
+TiglathPileser3 lol a mouth full of mud is what you could get right?
Yeah, it's reliability comes from the violence of the action chucking the mud out. Not designed in specifically but a side effect of a good design.
Completely unlike the 1911, BTW...
Funny that it turned out like this...
Karl seemed to think that most Luger owners aren't using the best ammo. InRangeTV used 147gr bullets to cope with the 100-year-old springs, as opposed to the standard 125gr ball that the German Army would been have using and the 115gr range ammo most people (including me!) would use if they were afraid of wearing the poor thing out.
Forgotten weapons recommended you. I really like your videos!
Thanks!
+C&Rsenal are you sure that this is 222 cm long?! XD
A very well done series! I don't feel brain cells dying as I watch.
Mae: "Touch my head again, you'll pull back a bloody stump."
Great dynamic.
When trying out a heap of pistols the luger just felt perfect in my hand, good size, perfect balance. 😍
You and Ian from Forgotten Weapons have the best showcase videos on the old guns of the past. Top notch videos from both of you. Best on UA-cam. Thanks and keep up that good vids please. Thanks from everyone who enjoys your vids.
"Tons and tons of thirty-twos.... The all thirty-two channel"
Priceless!!!
Mae, You are completly right. This thing is like grown out of Your hand. Its a part of You. Never in my life I had a hun im my hand that was so much part of me. And I am massive 1911 fan.
26:50 - You may be surprised at exactly how many of us are tuning in for exactly this sort of thing. I crave this kind of nitty gritty, and you guys deliver.
+Nicholas Nystrom I'm glad you like boredom!
Fantastic, comprehensive and the kind of video that such a weapon deserves! Thanks very much. I'm not a handgun guy but this was just so damn interesting!
I hope the two of you will be able to make a video at some point two fantastic UA-cam channels who do thorough research on what they are talking about
+zman1508 I've already woo'ed him on a Martini and you know that.
+britishmuzzleloaders We're at Springfield photographing today and tomorrow. Pop me an email if there is anything you think they may have in the collection you can't normally get at and I'll take a look at photographing it for you. (ok, pick 2 though or I'll be buried)
C&Rsenal Wow... Ok,... lemme think.. Cheers.
How about the earliest flintlock they have? Maybe an 1861 Rifle -Musket? Thanks so much! Are you there for anything in particular?
I made a mistake on waiting so long to watch you guys, you make awesome content over things others don't get to cover as much detail on
We're glad you showed up!
I only started watching them this year, I’ve got a lot of catching up to do haha they’re great.
After Ian's series on Forgotten Weapons, I get an involuntary twitch every time I hear the word Bergmann
Your background information is 1st class and makes this channel above the rest, who just show and shot
just found your channel through "history buffs" then "the great war" and withing two seconds I could tell this channel is UA-cam gold, great work guys .
+William Stanway Thanks!
That look on Mae's face when he pat her on the head...
+Dawn Alderman And again when she was patting the Luger!
+Dawn Alderman One hell of an eyeroll
+Dawn Alderman That pat was very helpful. It demonstrated to us that she is real.
A female shooting a 9 mm and it seems the Luger doesn't have a lot of recoil compared to allot of other 9 mm handguns. When I see females shoot 9mm or above It's clear that most guns with a caliber of 9 mm and up are not really made for them ( most f them ) . It is to powerful for the "average" Lady. The earlier luger should be tested. Personally think its normal and there is nothing wrong with the fact that males are on average stronger than females. It does show in a way that the industry has a gap to fill. Engineer a good size cartridge that lady's can shoot without fear nor pain in the wrist. ( I am trying to get my better half to be able to protect herself ) It's hard though when you want something above .22/25 and a nice evening without her having pain in her hand and wrist. There must be a way to do it better in 2017. So make something for real self defense and concentrate on women for once.
I'm not sure if the discrepancy is quite as drastic as you think it to be.
39:03 - sooo, is that a hint of Ian and Karl doing a mud test with a P08? If so: YAY! :D. Anyway, thanks for the terrific episode. Being from Germany, the P08 has a VERY special place in my gun enthusiast heart.
+.rzr I think InRange should definitely be pestered into trying it.
Ohhh yes, they totally should!
They eventually did! and the test went way better than i expected, gun ran pretty much flawlessly if i can remember correctly
"You can't make an entire livelihood just selling to the Swiss"
Replace "Swiss" with "US Government" and you'll see the lesson that Colt has failed to learn.
+Francis Borek Especially since civilians sales would be just fine if they did not show such contempt for civilians.
A few people in Colt seemed to have learned that lesson with their Competition line, a few more carry guns, and some more advertising in the gun rags. They need to get rid of Gen. Keys though. Apparently he detests the thought of selling guns to civilians.
+Francis Borek Detested sounds about right. They also make a bunch of changes to the ARs they sell to civilians to make double extra special sure you can not put an M16 bolt in it...even though that makes no difference. They even hacked off the entire bottom of the bolt carrier to make sure it could never engage an auto-sear. They really hate the idea of civilians with their weapons.
They did that during the AWB, but I've had at least two 6920's and a 6720 since 2012 and they've all had the M16 style BCG.
+Francis Borek Oh? That is good to hear. Them going so far out of their way to ensure civilians can not have automatic weapons was a really telling thing. I have heard that they are under partially new management...again. Maybe it will be better this time...but I still find their ARs over prices, ha.
Finally a show that explains how these weapons work and gives demonstrations!
+theprisoner3 YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND IT GOES BANG.
What Patreon level of support is required to watch Mae work the toggle-lock all day? That 16 hour video would be great amusement.
New patreon goal : reinforced pokey-hand
Genius design. I love the history of small arms production from that period. Love your videos, it's great to hear the history explained in great detail.
+DownTownStalker Thanks!
Deeply appreciate the history presented with every arm talked about. Such a unique and superior approach in presenting the armament.
Karate chop toggle reloading is so fun. Really great design. Love shooting my P08.
I was looking forward to this for a long time and you never disappoint me, good work !
20:43 - perhaps the reason Luger initially went with the bottlenecked 9mm was headspace. Bottlenecked cartridges headspace on the shoulder, and this was familiar to him, whereas a rimless straight-walled case like the 9mm Parabellum headspaces on the case mouth (and he probably wasn't sure THAT would work until he tried it - everything before that was either rimmed or bottlenecked). I always thought rifle ammunition was bottlenecked to get a reasonable amount of powder behind a small diameter bullet without having to have a very long cartridge case, plus with rimless ammunition you have a more positive way to headspace the round compared to headspacing on the case mouth. Obturation actually occurs along the walls of the case ahead of the solid brass in the case head, as the brass walls are forced against the steel of the chamber to seal the gases in. Incidentally, I think "Georg" is actually pronounced "Gay-org". Confused me when I watched "The Sound of Music".
Hey guys as a newby to your channel I believe it to be one of the most honest reviews channels out there, so well done to you all.🙏🏻👍🏻🇦🇺🇺🇸
Another Great Show Othais and Mae!
+Y Pop Thanks!
Borchardt scoffed at the idea that Ludwig Loewe would get someone _else_ to perfect his gun. I wonder how the conversation went.......
"Pah! Who could improve my designs?"
"Well, we've got this one guy. You may have heard of him. He's not a big deal, but you may know him as Georg Luger"
_Under his breath_ "Well he won't ever amount to anything....."
+TheGoldenCaulk "The world does not recognize my obvious genius! Their money, Their power, and their large breasted girlfriends are rightfully mine!"
+TheGoldenCaulk Good old hubris
Another masterpiece. I can't wait for episode 2. Mae, I congratulate you on your self-control in not assaulting Othais after his coronation "pat"; what else could that have been?
@C&Rsenal Hello Othais and thanks for the great video. As a half germ, half hungarian, i can translate FEG for you, if you not know the translation allready. FEG stands for Fegyver- és Gépgyártó Részvénytársaság ("Arms and Machine Manufacturing Company").
Your pronounciation made my day. Thank you very, very much. Keep up the good work and Greetings to Mae. :)
Brilliantly in-depth episode. I absolutely love the long episodes.
+Mark Cotton (mcfontaine) Thanks sweetie.
Dark Souls III and a C&Rsenal video on Luger on the same day? I must be in heaven.
+DrBreezeAir Do I have to wear underoos under those robes? I wanna poop on some birds
Can you poop in heaven? This IS heaven.
Oh geez! Almost an hour! I figured with the history this gun has this episode would be long, but that takes up about the rest of my open free time today! But if you're gonna have any gun go for over 50 minutes, this would definitely be one of the best to do it with!
+Micah Philson and they will do the navy luger next. . . hope you free up time for that episode
Great video guys. Congrats on a fantastic channel. I have a marine Luger and its amazing. The build quality is outstanding, you can truly feel the workmanship and the quality of the materials. Field strip and clean isn’t too bad, but a detail strip is murderous! And don’t get me started on reassembly... putting the recoil spring back is actually a two man job, and even them takes a huge amount of effort (and skin off your hands). But when you take it to the range, people go nuts, it’s like showing up in a Rolls Royce with a supermodel on your arm. Agree with Mae on shooting, but 2 handed it’s a tack driver. If you put the stock on the grip, it’s crazy accurate even without a cheek weld.
I got that Futurama reference! Nice. Also, the Luger I shoot has a super crisp trigger. It feels like very little take-up and therefore it's harder to have pull errors. The break was tight and short, adding to working with ergonomics. This one was made in 1911.
Where is the reference?
I love all of your videos on all of the weird pre-war pistols.
They're all so weird and foreign to most people, including me.
My last milsurp was a $400 mint-bore 1938 VOPO Luger purchased from AIM in the final batch available in 2001.
almost an hour of Luger awesomeness... YES
+BenBomb5 nah
Othais and Mae, you guys made my day with such a captivating in-depth episode. As I am watching your presentation, I have my Grandpa's 1937 Swiss Luger with red grips in its ordnance holster, laying in front of me on the coffee table. How cool is that?
I hope someday, you will get into the Sig P210, it is also a superb shooter. Keep up the good work. Thanks guys.
+Neptune Bluez D'aww, thanks. We'll likely get into sub variants after we get out of WWI. So there would definitely be a Swiss Luger drill down.
To be honest, if *any* video you do calls for going over toggle-lock systems again, it's the P08. With how iconic this pistol is, it's gonna draw new viewers. Still yet another great video, though!
In the 1970's, I owned a Stoeger .22 Caliber Luger 'replica' and it DROVE ME NUTS when it came to take-down and cleaning: parts were popping off everywhere and keeping everything compressed for refitting would have gotten me killed in the field. As it was, my fingers got bloodied at the garage workbench. Still, the shape was, and is, iconic.
O:55 in the video, 222cm, now that's a long pistol!!
That would be the Tank Luger...
Othias pats Mae on head >welp!< you be playing with fire there my son. lol
*mae pulls out a gun on Othias*
+Varan the 8th A small voice tells me that Mae wouldn't need a gun...
-gun turns out to be a reichsrevolver. Others walks away as she loads it, takes off the safety, attempts to Cock it.
That'd certainly be an interesting and possibly enjoyable ass-whooping / death.
My Walther PPS has that chamber "step".
Was really surprised when I examined the brass because it looks just like the brass from my 1912 Luger.
Great video btw.
Pat a woman on the head and then hand her a gun ? You're a braver man than I Othias !
Dang man your production value is high, some of the best looking videos on UA-cam and backed by a ton of research!
+scabbynacker Also, I have a Swiss Luger that is gorgeous. One of my favorite guns!
+scabbynacker Thanks!
WOW!!! Your history of the gun is great. I am very impressed with how well you presented the information and all of your research.
Thanks!
Another terrific episode. My family would have been happy had it been two hours long.
+Adam Jarvis Good to hear!
Watched the whole video with my Swiss 06/29 on my lap. Love you guys.
+NookyAvenger man those are nice.
Great vid! Uber informative! I look forward for part 2!
Superb episode as always! Keep 'em coming!
+Adamant Consternation Thanks! We will
One of the coolest animations I've seen. A lot going on in that little guy!
Whoop!!! Luger episode
+knifeguy wooooooooooooooooooooooo
"Don't be a goober, lug a Luger!"
+RefreshingDietDrPepper ok, now do Bodeo
+C&Rsenal "You're not a day old, just skip the Bodeo."
I would have tried for some kind of "not my first rodeo" reference, myself.
Othais and Mae, Really enjoyed primer 023. Very informative for owners like myself (mine is stamped 1916). The ammo that Mae used seem to operate well in this model. Would you share what type and load it was.
Thanks.
Just some commercial 9mm off the shelf. Didn't even pay it much attention except that is wasn't +P
My uncle uses 115 gr CCI Blazer and 115 gr federal . It seems to run fine with most anything that has a standard round nosed projectile, but I've only fired it on three occasions plinking paper.
This video absolutely gets an A+
I love the riffle wall paper ❤️
Couple month ago, I spent 3.5K for a “first issue” Luger, one of the first 25,000 Lugers first made for the imperial German army. There were 253 surviving, mine is now officially the 254th! The tell tales are all the imperial German crowns and the imperial war eagles on the left side of the gun, and most importantly, these first issue Lugers do not have the attachment knob for the holster/stock on the back of the grip. Starting with the second issues, like the Luger the OP is holding at 3-5 minute mark, you can now clearly see the attachment knob on the grip. This is a rare and highly coveted collector item.
Another excellent presentation. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos.
+Bo Forgault Thanks for watching and commenting! It helps!
That awkward moment when you catch the video so early it's not available in HD yet.......
+hawkins740 Now that's dedication.
35:45 where's the "war were declared" montage? So used to more recent episodes, when did he start that?
How does that salesman patter go again! Gr8 show. Recommended to my son.
the short for FEG was very good! I am impressed If not any other Hungarian here I say thank you!!!
+vandor1976 Nem vagy egyedül itt barátom :)
+vandor1976 de nem ám...
+vandor1976 Wait, really? I got yelled at...
+marton david udv latom nem en vagyok az egyetlen Magyar itt ami jo!
+C&Rsenal First if someone ever yelled at you because you try to say something an language which you obviously not speak, that person an arrogant idiot at least! Second I do respect that voluntary tray it and do your best !Third the Hungarian alphabet is different from the English so you get close as you can. Forth I come to the UK 10 years ago and still I have a Strong accent so I am impressed
Maybe this is by far the best pistol in this channel.
+Yeung Man Kiu I dunno, there are going to be more to come.
MOST INFORMING! Love this channel! 🇺🇸😎
You're fantastic, both with your research, your handling of the gun, and with your knowledge of how the gun is designed and works. Personally, my own favorite is the history part of the episode.
As for some criticism of your channel, it can pretty much be summed up in your own words: "yadda yadda". I understand that this is a channel for people with at least intermediate knowledge of guns, but I do feel that your channel could be enriched by a video or two on how modern guns work. At least, a video for non-native english speakers on the definitions on what certain things mean or point to. I feel that that would be a simple way to make your channel more accessible to others,
+kaazmodan We're planning some basics videos but honestly they are a bit on the backburner as we are not keeping up with the 2 week schedule well so far. (trips, animations, etc) I'm planning on spending the next 6-8 weeks building up a buffer of episodes. Once I can breathe I'd like to go back and do fundamentals in some shorts.
Everytime I see a luger and you here about's great sucess one question comes to mind: How come no one else ever made a elbow-operated-joint gun of any sort again (that I know of)?
PS -- Taofledermaus is right, these are some excellently made historical vids. Reminds me when dad and I used to watch "World At War" late Sunday night on PBS when they didn't care about playing the most graphic B&W war footage. This is the _quality of depth_ I really appreciate seeing in a video & a big part of why I have given up TV entirely ('cept for Survivor, but I even missed the past month of episodes of that!) for UA-cam. This kind of content rocks and blame Taofledermaus for my lengthy comments as it was his liking his own video (5,000 LIKED vids and I found that to find this, what are the odds?) that brought me here.
+BikingMNViking The Luger was adopters late but is actually one of the early auto loaders. By the time the patents on the pistol toggle and especially the direct exception of can pressure on the knee died out there were way more efficient and less recoil intensive options available
I understand that, it just seems that anything in popular culture with enough popularity & likeability gets duplicated in replica, often working replica and I am wondering why was the P08 an exception?
We've got working authentic replica Navy and Colt pistols, Uberti's and all sorts of other American pistols, what would be the reasons to stop an authentic replica not just a Ruger Mark I-V? Is it political or something I am totally missing?
From what I've seen the price of a luger is so collectible than it seems to me an authentic replica remake would likely sell very well.
BikingMNViking
Nah, a good Luger is still under $3k. A working reproduction of any quality would cost triple that to actually produce these days.
Good video, Othais and Mae. Looking forward new ones.
+mauzim Thanks!
+mauzim Thank you!!
Great episode re: P08 Luger. Thanks + congrats on job well done. Incidentally, I saw a review of a Brun Latridge Model 1900 today and this pistol reminded me of the ergonomics of the Borchardt C-93. Maybe this type of design was "thing" in the 1900's. Thanks again for sharing and all the excellent work you and your team are doing.
Brilliant Historical and Entertaining stuff on the P98 Luger history. The best I have found yet.
Great, Mae seems to love this Pistol, I must try and find one. What came across was that this Pistol was not the piece of rubbish some people convey. Yes, it survived two major wars!
I don't look forward to the day you run out of subject material. Hey Team, keep up this great work in the same format. - and then, 'War Were Declared'!
Ooops, I meant P08
At last, a proper authentic bad guy gun. Great work. As usual.
+Pieter Batenburg Movie prop masters rejoice!
I own 2 of them.Very fascinating mechanism for its time but its truly a an iconic pistol to look at and a joy to shoot.The legacy of this pistol is it's cartridge the 9mm Parabellum which has gone on as a popular round in the civilian and military and called the 9mm Luger or 9mm NATO.
As always such an informative and well crafted video. Thank you all.
+Raymond Gill Thanks for watching.
14:30 Luger's magazine tab serves as an impromptu magazine indicator
Excellent overview! I look forward to hour long episodes on every Luger variant ever.
+David M. no
53 minutes? Welp, there goes my evening.
+piritskenyer sorry
+C&Rsenal Why sorry, that's the best 53 minutes of entertainment (and education) available! Great work as always!
I mean, what weirdo wouldn't want to spend his evening listening to Othias delve into the history and function of one of the most iconic handguns of the 20th century?
+Krešimir Koržinek no kidding. I have to admit having a tales of the gun length video was absolutely awesome. And it was just on one gun!
+piritskenyer It's a significantly historical pistol. Deal with it.
Krešimir Koržinek normal people?
Man last time I came this early it lead to a awkward silence, and the feeling of disappointment.
+shadows96100 also low res
@@Candrsenal Nothing like a bit of pixellation where it matters most...
First pistol I shot was my dad's Luger. It pointed so easy for me even with terrible technique that it gave me some serious overconfidence when trying out other pistols later in life.
Thanks for this awesome presentation of one of my favorite guns! A minor typo error at 00:50, I think the dot is missing => 8.74" is not 222cm, but 22,2cm.
Cheers from France!
i will not lie when i say i was have a hard time being patient to see you guys back in front of the camera lol!
+Gren Moyo Hope the wait was worth it!
YAS! I Don't want to wait, but you can't rush quality. keep em coming and hopefully i'll see a mosin nagant episode in the near future lol.
Gren Moyo It is coming, sometime in the future, it is planned!
You guys are awsome. Be my Queen May, my kingdom shall be yours!
Such history, such impact.
Wow!!
Amazing video!! I'm learning so much! Thank you and keep up the great work!!
Most beautiful gun...