"always sound so digital!" Well they're digital devices but they sound great. I used to play a firehawk fx direct at professional gigs in a wedding band as the only guitar player sometimes with other guitarists with real amps and no one and I mean no one is gonna know the difference or care and the hx stuff definitely sounds better than the HD ones.
Thanks, Andy. It seems there's a Helix/HX/Pod for every need and budget. Seems smart. I'm enjoying my HX Effects, especially the modulation and delay effects.
I'm going to have to steal those settings for the Orange simulation, Andy -- I never got it to sound that good when I mucked about with it in the Stomp!
Thanks so much man! Fun facts on those two items: the old PGS intro tune was me playing a MIDI drum kit and guitar was direct using Guitar Rig! Also, if you see my face in any PGS video, the Soho had already been replaced by the Deluxe. ✌️
Thanks, I forgot to mention the Stomp’s FX loop can be used to incorporate your favorite pedals as well, rather sending to an amp’s FX loop. So yeah, it could replace a lot of your current pedals and those special ones can still be incorporated into the unit.
@@AndyDemos An easy way to use other pedals is to put them in line between the guitar and the Stomp. This doesn't take up any blocks in the stomp, and can save processing power for other things. Also, some of the models in the stomp are not quite as good as the real thing when it comes to OD / Distortion / fuzz / wah.
Line 6 employee: Damn... the Quad Cortex has completely changed the game. What should we do? Another Line 6 employee: We should release another HX Stomp... but longer! Line 6 boss: IT'S PERFECT!
Quad Cortex didn't change anything, unless you mean copying the UI from Helix, the profiling from Kemper, and the switches from TC Electronic. They have no original ideas.
@@AudacityWorks Were you patting yourself on the back as you wrote about "original ideas" with regards to products whose purpose is to sound as unoriginal as possible? Congratulations on your "original" post - you are the first contrarian ever to comment on a UA-cam video!
@@xdoctorblindx wow you sound like a really unhappy person to be that condescending... AudacityWorks is right, Quad Cortex is an amalgamation of tried and tested features and design from other companies. After Helix came out it wasn't too long before a lot of similar looking devices come out from the competition. Quad Cortex isn't even out yet...massively delayed
Complaints about digital sounding tones are really complaints against the user. With full eqing flexibility and really every other parameter you can think of, there may be a feel difference but there is no sound limitation to this device. There is no reason you cant dial in the waveform/actual sonic tone to be exactly what it is from a tube amp. Theres no voodoo involved; just time, effort, knowledge, and preference. If it sounds digital it's because it was dialed in to sound that way.
I mostly agree but I think the other argument is how it reacts to picking (harder/softer) and guitar volume is different. Havent had the chance to try a tube amp yet though.
@@sdoman7215 yeah I think that's kind of what I meant by a "feel" difference. You can compensate a lot for that by adjusting the impedance and amp sag settings and messing with compressors to simulate tube compression but I'm not convinced you can always get the feel to be exactly like a tube amp.
@Jimmy Galloway Totally agree with you there. They are butt hurt ignorant old farts. What they don't realize is that modelers are not modeling the amps alone in a room. Never made to sound or feel like real amps, but rather they are made to model miked up guitar cabs that are digital signals and sound crap even in real life. So they are doing nothing but demonstrating their own ignorance by saying bullshit statements like they sound digital or they don't sound nor feel like the real thing.
Andy in your opinion which amp takes pedals the best. I bought a moog mf-101 to do auto wah stuff and it doesnt take the high end well on my 78 princeton reverb. Not sure if it's the amp or something else
Very confusing. Never sure if you were changing sims or modifying a sim. I guess I will have to buy one (you succeeded) and once I understand the stomp I will revisit this video. I do enjoy your playing ability.
Although I agree more buttons and and ports on the backside was a welcomed addition. I feel it’s lost the main reason the original was so popular. It’s size. Bringing a laptop and my original stomp was so portable and convenient when traveling. I’m not saying this isn’t but I feel this is now in direct competition with the pod go minus the expression pedal
Hello! Very nice video Andy as always! A question, would you share how the 100 MAndaring preset is configuered? Its just because i am learning how to do it and it will be a reference .Thank you.
Are you able to do biamping bass with the HX Stomp? Like putting a LPF on a bass IR/Sim and a HPF on a guitar IR/Sim? I have 2 amps, I'm not worried about the power/cab portions of the setup. I'm just trying to figure out if I would be better suited to go with an ABY and 2 EQ pedals to create a crossover for HI and LO signals. I can't find the answer to this anywhere.
Great work as always! Can you route aux music in and out with the guitar audio to make it easier to record videos? I'd love to be able record with zoom q8hd using the trs inputs from the pedal and have it include the audio I play along with. Thanks for any info you can provide.
The biggest difference between the two other than price and expression pedal is the pod go has slightly less DSP, only one signal path, a couple less I/O like no second stereo loop return, and doesnt have pedal midi. Overall, the difference is the pod go is designed to be an all in one rig where this is designed to be the center of a pedalboard that also uses other pedals.
Good question! There is a master output volume in the back for adjusting the overall volume to match the Stomp to your amp or PA etc. Plus, you’ll want to look in the global settings to select either line or instrument out. I switched to line out when I went direct into the interface.
I just thought I would add my 2 cents... I just got one of these, I am sorry, but I just don't like the sound... I tried it first with headphones... awful... then I tried to interface it with my stereo, basically the same sound I got with headphones...( and I did change the global output settings from Instrument to Line out )...then I plugged it into a Fender Frontman amp and it sounded OK ( I mean just OK )... This thing has a Ton of features and has so many ways to hook it up... but I just can't get a good sound... I have only had it for 24 hours, I will try it again in a day or two... but I think it will be going back to Sweetwater... I love those guys.... I also had the same experience with the Boss Katana amp about a year ago ( it went back )... I wish I liked the sound... a lot of guys are saying that you would not hear the difference in a live setting, and this may be true... ( maybe ) but I know how it sounds when I am just jamming by myself, and or practicing to a song.... I will update this, after I try it again, if the sound improves.... I just don't get it.... BUMMER...if someone can verify this, Andy is demoing with a Fender Deluxe Reverb amp, is this not a tube amp... I ask because this means that the tone you are ( I am ) hearing is mostly coming from the amp...if anyone has any ideas for me, please let me know... thank you... if you are interested, ( want to read all my BS )... below is what I posted on the Line 6 youtube channel including update concerning the HX STomp XL... HELP.... what is up with my new HX Stomp XL... my presets have no names, they are all called New Preset... I thought this came with some loaded presets to get started...like they mention FX, DIR, stuff like that...I ran the updater, it says I'm up to date... the HX Edit says the same thing, all presets are called New Preset... this thing sounds terrible through headphones, and just as bad hooked up to a PA... It sounds half way decent when interfaced with a guitar amp... am I missing something... or did I get a DEFECTIVE unit... I have sent an email request to SWEETWATER for help, but I am sure it will be a few days before someone gets back to me... out of the gate, very disappointed... UPDATE... approx 1 day later...I found the Preset List on the Line 6 Forum page and was able to load them, no problem... I think the presets were installed initially but they had no names... now they have names and I can go through them and this helps with what you would expect to hear... BUT, I still don't really like the sound... it is a little better, but it ultimately has that digital sound, and also, I can hear/feel a delay from the time I strike the strings to the time I hear the sound... ( some presets barely noticeable and some really noticeable ) anyway, I am sending it back... can't justify $750 for what I would consider a basic multi-sound FX unit... when you hear demos online, like Andy from Guitar Shop Pro, I believe the quality sound you hear is mostly from the amp he is using in the demo... many people/guitarists say that tone is in your fingers... this is BS... YOUR tone comes from the WHOLE package... YOU, ( your playing technique ), YOUR GUITAR, YOUR PICKUPS, YOUR GOOD ( or crappy ) CABLE and YOUR AMP... it all ads up to Great, Average or Poor tone... up to you... hope this helps someone...
You are completely contradicting yourself. lol You say the tone is in your fingers yet blame the HX Stomp for sounding crap. Why don't you blame your fingers for making the stom sound crap then for consistency? lol And you think you've explored everything about a modeler just after going through some factory presets? lol And your explanation shows that you have no idea what you are doing exploring the thing. You probably were in the user preset playlist rather than the built in ones Just a typical ignorant digital hater. And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing. People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
(edit: damn this turned out to be a way longer comment than I intended when I started lol oops) I started learning guitar in the fall and I had an ancient Crate MX15R practice amp in my closet since forever that I was convinced was unusable from how bad I thought it sounded. So I went out and got a Spider V 30. The Crate didn’t sound good, but after 2 weeks with the Spider V, I hated how it sounded even more than the Crate. Every preset on a Line6 always seems to sound like the same generic base tone with different EQ applied - so many different choices of amps, cabs, OD and distortion effects, but they all sound more or less the same. It was impossible to tell what the true sound of this amp even was. At least with the Crate, I could turn it on and know exactly what its characteristics are and how my guitar sounds. On the Line6, just kinda felt like it was constantly lying to me lol. I then found out that Celestion makes a compatible speaker replacement for the Crate amp, (the Eight 15,) for just $30, so I got one figuring it’d be worth seeing what was bad in the Crate: the amp itself, or the old cheap speaker. I popped the Celestion in, took all of 2 minutes to change it, and was kinda blown away - the Crate now beat the crap out of the Spider V - it even sounded better than my friend’s Roland CUBE 20GX. I immediately returned the Spider after that and began building a modest pedal board instead. Who needs the illusion of choice a modeling amp like a Line6 promises you you when you can get most of your core tone and effects you’d need from just a few pedals?
@@foxorian Because for some of us, our board isn't just a few effects, its for also complex presets, samples, signal routing and other stuff. I find it amazing that I can just recreate a tone I want faithfully in a relatively small box
Because it's never their goal to do that. lol And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing. People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
At least EytschPi42 is upfront with labeling his videos as "paid promotion" and "is sponsored by Line 6" when he reviewed this pedal. Ironic these all "review" videos came out at the same time, but this has no sponsorship label. Don't get me wrong, Andy is incredible, but Shane "in the blues" just did a video about these youtube practices. Did Reverb/Esty have buy this pedal outright, no discount, and reviewed it, unlikely?
maybe is too obvious to even have a label, c'mon man, we all know Andy, he makes a living with this, be became known in the guitar community by demoing pedals to sell on proguitarshop, it's silly to complain about that now
Are you serious? The video is posted by Reverb. There's a Reverb sign in the lower hand corner of the video. There's a giant Reverb sign right behind Andy. And it's glowing... You are aware that Reverb is a platform for selling gear, right? That's like starting every Andertons video with a 'before we demo this product we just have to state this very obvious fact: We actually sell the gear we demo...' Or every Line 6 feature demo stating: 'Before we show you the features of this product please be aware that we are actually the ones responsible for said product and we would love it if you bought one' While I get the whole sponsored and paid promotion discussion on UA-cam, I would much rather watch a video of one of these 'influencers' encouraging their viewers and guitar players in general to think for themselves and be critical of the things they hear and see. Always a good idea no matter what medium you get your information from.
What you mean is he made it sound digital. Because of all the eqing and compression options, we're now at a point where "sounding digital" is user created. It can sound however you dial it in to sound. There is no magic voodoo to a guitar tone that isnt shapable if you know what you're doing.
Just a typical ignorant digital hater. And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing. People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
They're kind of different beasts. The pod go is more of a toned down do it all rig where this is still designed for pedalboard integration and can do more in that sense than the pod go can.
Just get the Boss GT-1000. It’s FAR superior to this. AND it has an expression/volume pedal. Have been using it for about a month now in church live settings and it has changed everything for me.
I agree. With the 3.0 firmware update you can quickly max out the Helix. I think it’s time for a hardware upgrade. A Helix X and XT which would be similar but the XT having no expression pedal or scribble strips but both units having more DSP and other hardware tweKs
@@vin.25 They went the wrong direction. Instead of a larger stomp a smaller helix would have been great. You are 100 percent correct about a hardware upgrade. Helix is great and I love mine, but you can't even use the new polyphonic stuff because it's such a dsp hog.
I agree it sounds better than this demo. As someone who owns a katana and a stomp, the difference is the stomp can sound any way you want if you dial it in long enough where the katana is easier to make sound good. The helix has a higher ceiling but the katana has a higher floor.
Call me a hater but I really don’t get this product... if you’re gonna get something in this size then just get the Helix Effects unit which IS cheaper too btw. But hey, I’m just a guitar loving, effects hoarding schmuck. What do I know?
Still this unit doesn’t have a bigger screen and xlr outpouts. I don’t get it, you can put the amps and fx of the big helix in a small box and you can’t just have xlr stereo output and a larger f@cking screen....what happens when you play live and want to tweak some settings? you won’t see sh@t, plus you’ll have to connect to the phone app to fully control the unit. In that price I’m expecting more hardware features. Come on line 6, I had a better screen on my first Nintendo.
I don't care what it looks like. The 5 extra footswitches AND...one thing Andy didn't talk about, the ability to adjust ANY parameter, on-the-fly, using ONLY the footswitches is BADASS. You can adjust gain, SAG, eq, delay, decay, etc. without programming it to do so, using nothing but your feet.
Yah I cant stand it. The only digital gear I've liked was rhe kemper. And the new neural quad thing looks promising. Line 6 stuff is missing something. But even kemper compared to my real amps and pedals is meh
Well that last sentence is just not true. Hes a great guitarist but he did not dial this in very well. Check out Jason Sadites or Johnathan Cordy to hear better sounds.
Have you watched the line 6 walkthrough of it or the Anderson’s it sounds completely different. I have to say based on the demo I don’t like it but I listened to theirs first and I know it can be better
Can you adjust ANY amp or effect parameter, on the fly, using ONLY the footswitches on the regular Stomp? Not sure about this, but you definitely can with the Stomp XL.
Also, the 5 extra footswitches make it much simpler to use for my application. Besides, I've always liked "ugly" gear...I mean, I play rock n roll, not opera.
Not true, I was exploring the new US Princess amp model which comes from the latest firmware and I know there are new polyphonic pitch effects Line6 worked hard on recently.
Line6 has a very nice hardware platform and user interface, and they have been churning out free firmware upgrades for several years. The 3.5 and later updates were enough to get me to buy the Stomp XL, due to lowered CPU requirements and better sound.
Just a typical ignorant digital hater. And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing. People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
Nobody demos Guitar Gear like Andy.
all Andys are the BOMB,,,,,,ahahahaha.....he is great , aint he?
"always sound so digital!" Well they're digital devices but they sound great. I used to play a firehawk fx direct at professional gigs in a wedding band as the only guitar player sometimes with other guitarists with real amps and no one and I mean no one is gonna know the difference or care and the hx stuff definitely sounds better than the HD ones.
Thanks for another killer demo Andy! Your pedal reviews are far and away the best on UA-cam. Nobody even comes close!
Thanks, Andy. It seems there's a Helix/HX/Pod for every need and budget. Seems smart. I'm enjoying my HX Effects, especially the modulation and delay effects.
Why do I want every product in the Helix family? I swear it’s the colorful buttons hah!
I'm going to have to steal those settings for the Orange simulation, Andy -- I never got it to sound that good when I mucked about with it in the Stomp!
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hope it has smaller notch and won't remove the aux jack
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Tasty jams dude, love watching your demos.
Best demo man in the business. Who wouldn't buy this thing after watching this?
I miss the PGS intro and 65 Amps Soho. So glad the best demo guy is still at it though.
Thanks so much man! Fun facts on those two items: the old PGS intro tune was me playing a MIDI drum kit and guitar was direct using Guitar Rig! Also, if you see my face in any PGS video, the Soho had already been replaced by the Deluxe. ✌️
That orange sound is really nice man
It lives! It's real!
Well, guess I need it now.
Great demo Andy! I'm starting to ask myself why I have all these pedals all over the place - the floor, on the desk, in boxes.
He’s got the box!
Thanks, I forgot to mention the Stomp’s FX loop can be used to incorporate your favorite pedals as well, rather sending to an amp’s FX loop. So yeah, it could replace a lot of your current pedals and those special ones can still be incorporated into the unit.
@@AndyDemos Is that still using the 4C method?
@@AndyDemos An easy way to use other pedals is to put them in line between the guitar and the Stomp. This doesn't take up any blocks in the stomp, and can save processing power for other things. Also, some of the models in the stomp are not quite as good as the real thing when it comes to OD / Distortion / fuzz / wah.
Love this Andy ,thank you ,got one coming ,Diving in head 1st !
Is it insane that I've got an LT but kinda want to switch to this little thing?
Give Andy a Starter guitar/amp a Zoom505. And give me this setup ..... an he will still sound better.
way better revivew then the one from line6 itself. :-) tHANKS.
Line 6 employee: Damn... the Quad Cortex has completely changed the game. What should we do?
Another Line 6 employee: We should release another HX Stomp... but longer!
Line 6 boss: IT'S PERFECT!
Quad Cortex didn't change anything, unless you mean copying the UI from Helix, the profiling from Kemper, and the switches from TC Electronic. They have no original ideas.
@@AudacityWorks Were you patting yourself on the back as you wrote about "original ideas" with regards to products whose purpose is to sound as unoriginal as possible? Congratulations on your "original" post - you are the first contrarian ever to comment on a UA-cam video!
@@xdoctorblindx wow you sound like a really unhappy person to be that condescending... AudacityWorks is right, Quad Cortex is an amalgamation of tried and tested features and design from other companies. After Helix came out it wasn't too long before a lot of similar looking devices come out from the competition. Quad Cortex isn't even out yet...massively delayed
Great product demo
Complaints about digital sounding tones are really complaints against the user. With full eqing flexibility and really every other parameter you can think of, there may be a feel difference but there is no sound limitation to this device. There is no reason you cant dial in the waveform/actual sonic tone to be exactly what it is from a tube amp. Theres no voodoo involved; just time, effort, knowledge, and preference. If it sounds digital it's because it was dialed in to sound that way.
I mostly agree but I think the other argument is how it reacts to picking (harder/softer) and guitar volume is different. Havent had the chance to try a tube amp yet though.
@@sdoman7215 yeah I think that's kind of what I meant by a "feel" difference. You can compensate a lot for that by adjusting the impedance and amp sag settings and messing with compressors to simulate tube compression but I'm not convinced you can always get the feel to be exactly like a tube amp.
@Jimmy Galloway
Totally agree with you there. They are butt hurt ignorant old farts.
What they don't realize is that modelers are not modeling the amps alone in a room. Never made to sound or feel like real amps, but rather they are made to model miked up guitar cabs that are digital signals and sound crap even in real life.
So they are doing nothing but demonstrating their own ignorance by saying bullshit statements like they sound digital or they don't sound nor feel like the real thing.
Bill Ruppert called, said he wants to jam!
Andy in your opinion which amp takes pedals the best. I bought a moog mf-101 to do auto wah stuff and it doesnt take the high end well on my 78 princeton reverb. Not sure if it's the amp or something else
Very confusing. Never sure if you were changing sims or modifying a sim. I guess I will have to buy one (you succeeded) and once I understand the stomp I will revisit this video. I do enjoy your playing ability.
@AndyDemos Great video. What model Jazzmaster are you playing?
Although I agree more buttons and and ports on the backside was a welcomed addition. I feel it’s lost the main reason the original was so popular. It’s size. Bringing a laptop and my original stomp was so portable and convenient when traveling. I’m not saying this isn’t but I feel this is now in direct competition with the pod go minus the expression pedal
Fortunately, this is not replacing the HX Stomp, it’s simply another option. 👍
This model is way longer but still extremely narrow. Thus that's why it is still very compact!
POD GO sounds worse and has one DSP less that this.
Hello! Very nice video Andy as always! A question, would you share how the 100 MAndaring preset is configuered? Its just because i am learning how to do it and it will be a reference .Thank you.
Are you able to do biamping bass with the HX Stomp? Like putting a LPF on a bass IR/Sim and a HPF on a guitar IR/Sim?
I have 2 amps, I'm not worried about the power/cab portions of the setup.
I'm just trying to figure out if I would be better suited to go with an ABY and 2 EQ pedals to create a crossover for HI and LO signals. I can't find the answer to this anywhere.
I'm still using the M13. Should I switch to this?
Great work as always! Can you route aux music in and out with the guitar audio to make it easier to record videos? I'd love to be able record with zoom q8hd using the trs inputs from the pedal and have it include the audio I play along with. Thanks for any info you can provide.
Dem chops! 🤘
does it come with the bulky power supply again
So is this like the pod go just not with the expression pedal?
The biggest difference between the two other than price and expression pedal is the pod go has slightly less DSP, only one signal path, a couple less I/O like no second stereo loop return, and doesnt have pedal midi. Overall, the difference is the pod go is designed to be an all in one rig where this is designed to be the center of a pedalboard that also uses other pedals.
What's the green bass on the floor stand behind him to his left?
Do these have a universal volume or do you have to balance every patch against each other?
Good question! There is a master output volume in the back for adjusting the overall volume to match the Stomp to your amp or PA etc. Plus, you’ll want to look in the global settings to select either line or instrument out. I switched to line out when I went direct into the interface.
hi, please share your presets, very good job greetings.
Can you assign custom colors to the led lights?
Yes.
that seems to be ideal for flyrigs but its a bit expensive..a 600usd price would be fair.
This is the XL version, the smaller one is about 540€
I really wish Andy would just use a pick. Damn!
Haha, no thanks 👍🏻
I hate when this guy does demos. I buy literally everything after he demos it!!!
I just thought I would add my 2 cents... I just got one of these, I am sorry, but I just don't like the sound... I tried it first with headphones... awful... then I tried to interface it with my stereo, basically the same sound I got with headphones...( and I did change the global output settings from Instrument to Line out )...then I plugged it into a Fender Frontman amp and it sounded OK ( I mean just OK )... This thing has a Ton of features and has so many ways to hook it up... but I just can't get a good sound... I have only had it for 24 hours, I will try it again in a day or two... but I think it will be going back to Sweetwater... I love those guys.... I also had the same experience with the Boss Katana amp about a year ago ( it went back )... I wish I liked the sound... a lot of guys are saying that you would not hear the difference in a live setting, and this may be true... ( maybe ) but I know how it sounds when I am just jamming by myself, and or practicing to a song.... I will update this, after I try it again, if the sound improves.... I just don't get it.... BUMMER...if someone can verify this, Andy is demoing with a Fender Deluxe Reverb amp, is this not a tube amp... I ask because this means that the tone you are ( I am ) hearing is mostly coming from the amp...if anyone has any ideas for me, please let me know... thank you...
if you are interested, ( want to read all my BS )... below is what I posted on the Line 6 youtube channel including update concerning the HX STomp XL...
HELP.... what is up with my new HX Stomp XL... my presets have no names, they are all called New Preset... I thought this came with some loaded presets to get started...like they mention FX, DIR, stuff like that...I ran the updater, it says I'm up to date... the HX Edit says the same thing, all presets are called New Preset... this thing sounds terrible through headphones, and just as bad hooked up to a PA... It sounds half way decent when interfaced with a guitar amp... am I missing something... or did I get a DEFECTIVE unit... I have sent an email request to SWEETWATER for help, but I am sure it will be a few days before someone gets back to me... out of the gate, very disappointed...
UPDATE... approx 1 day later...I found the Preset List on the Line 6 Forum page and was able to load them, no problem... I think the presets were installed initially but they had no names... now they have names and I can go through them and this helps with what you would expect to hear... BUT, I still don't really like the sound... it is a little better, but it ultimately has that digital sound, and also, I can hear/feel a delay from the time I strike the strings to the time I hear the sound... ( some presets barely noticeable and some really noticeable ) anyway, I am sending it back... can't justify $750 for what I would consider a basic multi-sound FX unit... when you hear demos online, like Andy from Guitar Shop Pro, I believe the quality sound you hear is mostly from the amp he is using in the demo... many people/guitarists say that tone is in your fingers... this is BS... YOUR tone comes from the WHOLE package... YOU, ( your playing technique ), YOUR GUITAR, YOUR PICKUPS, YOUR GOOD ( or crappy ) CABLE and YOUR AMP... it all ads up to Great, Average or Poor tone... up to you... hope this helps someone...
You are completely contradicting yourself. lol
You say the tone is in your fingers yet blame the HX Stomp for sounding crap.
Why don't you blame your fingers for making the stom sound crap then for consistency? lol
And you think you've explored everything about a modeler just after going through some factory presets? lol
And your explanation shows that you have no idea what you are doing exploring the thing. You probably were in the user preset playlist rather than the built in ones
Just a typical ignorant digital hater.
And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing.
People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
it just doesnt seem like modelers will ever capture the depth of tube tone and hard op devices
Exactly why I sold my Helix LT after a few months.
They do seem to capture the depth of a recorded tube tone, which is really their only goal. Just my opinion though
(edit: damn this turned out to be a way longer comment than I intended when I started lol oops)
I started learning guitar in the fall and I had an ancient Crate MX15R practice amp in my closet since forever that I was convinced was unusable from how bad I thought it sounded. So I went out and got a Spider V 30. The Crate didn’t sound good, but after 2 weeks with the Spider V, I hated how it sounded even more than the Crate. Every preset on a Line6 always seems to sound like the same generic base tone with different EQ applied - so many different choices of amps, cabs, OD and distortion effects, but they all sound more or less the same. It was impossible to tell what the true sound of this amp even was. At least with the Crate, I could turn it on and know exactly what its characteristics are and how my guitar sounds. On the Line6, just kinda felt like it was constantly lying to me lol.
I then found out that Celestion makes a compatible speaker replacement for the Crate amp, (the Eight 15,) for just $30, so I got one figuring it’d be worth seeing what was bad in the Crate: the amp itself, or the old cheap speaker. I popped the Celestion in, took all of 2 minutes to change it, and was kinda blown away - the Crate now beat the crap out of the Spider V - it even sounded better than my friend’s Roland CUBE 20GX. I immediately returned the Spider after that and began building a modest pedal board instead. Who needs the illusion of choice a modeling amp like a Line6 promises you you when you can get most of your core tone and effects you’d need from just a few pedals?
@@foxorian Because for some of us, our board isn't just a few effects, its for also complex presets, samples, signal routing and other stuff. I find it amazing that I can just recreate a tone I want faithfully in a relatively small box
Because it's never their goal to do that. lol
And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing.
People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
How many preamp models are there... or can you use just the preamp of any amp model?
Preamps from each amp model are included by themselves 👍🏻
dam i really want to like all this digital stuff but sounds like shite and not a patch on my vintage Fenders.
I have this guitar. It does not sound like andys... 🤣🤣🤣
I got all the pedals....and all the guitars....and it doesnt sound like Andy.....pisses me off...ahahahahaha...
I bought Andy and I still dont sound like Him
At least EytschPi42 is upfront with labeling his videos as "paid promotion" and "is sponsored by Line 6" when he reviewed this pedal. Ironic these all "review" videos came out at the same time, but this has no sponsorship label. Don't get me wrong, Andy is incredible, but Shane "in the blues" just did a video about these youtube practices. Did Reverb/Esty have buy this pedal outright, no discount, and reviewed it, unlikely?
maybe is too obvious to even have a label, c'mon man, we all know Andy, he makes a living with this, be became known in the guitar community by demoing pedals to sell on proguitarshop, it's silly to complain about that now
Are you serious? The video is posted by Reverb. There's a Reverb sign in the lower hand corner of the video. There's a giant Reverb sign right behind Andy. And it's glowing... You are aware that Reverb is a platform for selling gear, right? That's like starting every Andertons video with a 'before we demo this product we just have to state this very obvious fact: We actually sell the gear we demo...' Or every Line 6 feature demo stating: 'Before we show you the features of this product please be aware that we are actually the ones responsible for said product and we would love it if you bought one'
While I get the whole sponsored and paid promotion discussion on UA-cam, I would much rather watch a video of one of these 'influencers' encouraging their viewers and guitar players in general to think for themselves and be critical of the things they hear and see. Always a good idea no matter what medium you get your information from.
Hahahahahahaha
I’ve never reviewed anything.
Would the demo be any better sounding if He said he paid for it him self🤔.
Line 6: Making Digital Sound Digital for Over 25 Years.
What you mean is he made it sound digital. Because of all the eqing and compression options, we're now at a point where "sounding digital" is user created. It can sound however you dial it in to sound. There is no magic voodoo to a guitar tone that isnt shapable if you know what you're doing.
Just a typical ignorant digital hater.
And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing.
People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.
So why wouldn't I just get the line 6 pod go? This just seems unnecessary
Ability to run dual amps/IRs, this integrates into a pedalboard better to name a couple of reasons.
3.0 update
They're kind of different beasts. The pod go is more of a toned down do it all rig where this is still designed for pedalboard integration and can do more in that sense than the pod go can.
My brain hurts🥴
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Just get the Boss GT-1000. It’s FAR superior to this. AND it has an expression/volume pedal. Have been using it for about a month now in church live settings and it has changed everything for me.
c'mon Line 6. Time for something NEW.
This is new.
@@TheToneshack This is a stomp with more buttons? It's not new it's a revision.
I agree. With the 3.0 firmware update you can quickly max out the Helix. I think it’s time for a hardware upgrade.
A Helix X and XT which would be similar but the XT having no expression pedal or scribble strips but both units having more DSP and other hardware tweKs
@@vin.25 They went the wrong direction. Instead of a larger stomp a smaller helix would have been great.
You are 100 percent correct about a hardware upgrade. Helix is great and I love mine, but you can't even use the new polyphonic stuff because it's such a dsp hog.
I think what they should do is release a smaller helix like the pod go, but with helix feature (paralel paths, dual amps, no preassigned blocks, etc.)
Wow.
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A Boss Katana sounds better than this imo
I agree it sounds better than this demo. As someone who owns a katana and a stomp, the difference is the stomp can sound any way you want if you dial it in long enough where the katana is easier to make sound good. The helix has a higher ceiling but the katana has a higher floor.
Call me a hater but I really don’t get this product... if you’re gonna get something in this size then just get the Helix Effects unit which IS cheaper too btw. But hey, I’m just a guitar loving, effects hoarding schmuck. What do I know?
Pretty simple really. Amp models and Cab sims. HX Effects only has effects and IR loading.
Also, makes for a good gig bag board for "quiet stage" or backline gigs
Still this unit doesn’t have a bigger screen and xlr outpouts.
I don’t get it, you can put the amps and fx of the big helix in a small box and you can’t just have xlr stereo output and a larger f@cking screen....what happens when you play live and want to tweak some settings? you won’t see sh@t, plus you’ll have to connect to the phone app to fully control the unit.
In that price I’m expecting more hardware features.
Come on line 6, I had a better screen on my first Nintendo.
What phone app?
@@Madmax290 there is a phone app to control it and you can also do it from your pc
@@johnkarakatsianis7281 There is no phone app... You can do trs to xlr straight to a PA or whatever.
@@dilesmavis1196 I don’t think that trs/xlr is the same as a pure xlr output
@@johnkarakatsianis7281 Both are balanced cables, just different connectors
I‘ve got the normal hx stomp & I think this version look damn awful😂
@@amremorse !!!
I don't care what it looks like. The 5 extra footswitches AND...one thing Andy didn't talk about, the ability to adjust ANY parameter, on-the-fly, using ONLY the footswitches is BADASS. You can adjust gain, SAG, eq, delay, decay, etc. without programming it to do so, using nothing but your feet.
I guess I'm just a hopeless tube snob, it sounds like a veneer of a generic tone. If Andy can't make it sound good no one can.
Yah I cant stand it. The only digital gear I've liked was rhe kemper. And the new neural quad thing looks promising. Line 6 stuff is missing something. But even kemper compared to my real amps and pedals is meh
Well that last sentence is just not true. Hes a great guitarist but he did not dial this in very well. Check out Jason Sadites or Johnathan Cordy to hear better sounds.
Have you watched the line 6 walkthrough of it or the Anderson’s it sounds completely different. I have to say based on the demo I don’t like it but I listened to theirs first and I know it can be better
It's an ugly HX Stomp, that's it!
Can you adjust ANY amp or effect parameter, on the fly, using ONLY the footswitches on the regular Stomp? Not sure about this, but you definitely can with the Stomp XL.
Also, the 5 extra footswitches make it much simpler to use for my application. Besides, I've always liked "ugly" gear...I mean, I play rock n roll, not opera.
Sounds like garbage, $700 worth
Orribile sound.
line6 is repackaging their same fx algorithms for 10 or more years now... this is so fckn lame
Not true tho is it, they add new stuff every update
Not true, I was exploring the new US Princess amp model which comes from the latest firmware and I know there are new polyphonic pitch effects Line6 worked hard on recently.
Ye true there hasn't been anything next gen coming from them. Now it'll be another 2,3 years
Well that's just obviously not true. Haha.
Line6 has a very nice hardware platform and user interface, and they have been churning out free firmware upgrades for several years. The 3.5 and later updates were enough to get me to buy the Stomp XL, due to lowered CPU requirements and better sound.
sounds terrible, man...
Sounds too digital
That's because of EQ/cabs. It doesnt have to sound this digital.
Just a typical ignorant digital hater.
And speaking of digital, modelers are not meant to sound like an amp alone in a room. They are modeling miked up amps and they do that just fine because even real amps do sound digital and crap many times when you just mic them up with no post processing.
People who say modelers suck because they don't sound nor feel like the real amps are doing nothing but demonstrating their ignorance to this simple fact.